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Tips for Long Flights

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What are your tips for long-haul flights? I always pack a few essentials in my carry-on bag, but am interested in hearing other people's tips.

I pack:
>sleep mask
>ear plugs
>mask to cover mouth and nose
>neck pillow
>chamomile tea bag
>hoodie
>slippers
>shower body wipes
>mouthwash

What do you pack for long flights, layovers, and other long-distance travels?
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do some stretches when you get up to go to the restroom.

I usually do a few lunges down the aisle. When it opens out a bit, there's more space and you can do some squats and burpees.
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>set of handwraps
>2 6KG Dumbells
>Hook on speed bag
>skipping rope
>foam roller
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>tfw weight allowance always used up by bar and 6 sets of weights so I have to buy the 3 most expensive seats on the plane to fit it all on
>at least I can get buff in the aisles while normies keep wasting away precious lifting time
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>>1190908
If some motherfucker starts jumproping next to me and doing curls with 6 kgs I will knock you over the head
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I always carry disinfectant wipes. There's no telling who's sat in that seat before you and where their hands have been.

For when I have to use the toilet, I make sure to bring disposable seat covers and my own homemade deodorizing spray. It's a mix of vinegar, alcohol and various natural extracts such as peppermint or lavender.
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basically the same.

eye mask
ear plugs
noise-cancelling headphones
mask (i have it on except when i eat)
neck pillow
extra warm and thick and sturdy socks that also dub as slippers
face cleansing wipes
face oil or sheet mask
toothbrush and toothpaste
powerbank and usb cable
pen
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Aren't sleep masks usually provided?

I just make sure to have a phone charger, otherwise I just keep myself entertained with the on-board entertainment system and booze
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>Epiphone Casino
>Vox AC30

all i need for a plane trip brother
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>>1190904
my recently born child, a chunk of aged stilton to snack on, my nail clippers, and the grievances I've been building up internally against my partner
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>>1190935
i hope you don't forget to eat kimchi beforehand
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What's the mask for? I don't get it
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>>1190940
If he took it off, would he die?
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>>1190925
Depends on the carrier. Delta provides them
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>>1190940
When Oxygen levels in the cabin drop
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I wish I could sleep on planes. I don't know what keeps me from it. I was awake for abour 30 hours before I even got on the plane and could not sleep for a fucking minute all the way to asia. Tired as fuck the entire time.
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No real help here, a couple of books and earphone for my music stored on my phone.

I can't sleep much on planes, and won't take sleep aids.

I have taken snacks and drinks, but you have to buy them after you clear security, so they are expensive.
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>>1190942
For you
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>>1190904
LSD, fun for about 8-10 hours.
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>every flight I've had was under 3hrs
median is 2.5hrs
just.

I had a bus ride that was 7 hours though.
Pure hell.

>>1190908
>foam roller
lost
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>>1190904
>water-based lubricant
>worm on a string
sometimes ill sneak off to the bathrooms and wont come out for the rest of the flight, nothing but fun times with my worm on a string!
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>>1191082
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>>1190904
empty water bottle through security. then fill it up before you get on the plane. Flying 12+ plus hours from the USA to Asia, the water to give is never enough or often enough, and it's annoying having to buzz them, for both of you. This is also a good idea for short cheap flights without drink service (looking at you Air Asia)
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every time i fly 12+ hours it's like:

settle down with ginger ale and peanuts/multigrain crackers/whatever they give you

choose the chicken option at dinner

close eyes and fitfully drift in and out of sleep when the lights go off

wake up for midnight cup noodles

try again to sleep but by now it's too late so stare listlessly into space

have some kind of fruit salad and coffee and cold bread roll for breakfast
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>>1191089
This desu

You can also use the bottle to piss in during long flights
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>>1191099
I have no idea why, but whenever I fly long-haul it seems like they wake me in the middle of the night for breakfast.
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dude do you really need all that stuff
just being away from this shit planet is good enough for me
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>>1190956
Nerves. At least thats my problem, I have been in transit for over 40 hours before and gotten a total of 3 or 4 hours of sleep. I dont realize it while its happening, but my nerves are shot the whole time I am flying.
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>>1191105
Because if they don't it will be hours before you get food again, But the snack they will skip over you if you are sleep/
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>>1190904
>tips n tricks

Learn to Quick Fap.
1. Save porn vid on phone
2. Fap in airplane toilet.

I used to spend 30 min fapping, but through extensive focus and training have cut it down to an efficient 5 min.
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>>1190956
Same here and I fly 8h+ regularly. I've flown hundreds of times and I've NEVER fallen asleep on a plane. For me it's comfort - I'm tall and the seats are way too uncomfortable to sleep on, my back and knees suffer a lot. I wish I was rich enough to fly first class if it meant I got to sleep during the flight.
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>>1191215
Would it be dangerous to mix sleeping pills and an alcohol?

Like a real hard drink, not just beer.
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Sedatives
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>>1191218
No they just put that warning on all sleeping pills as a joke
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>>1191226
Tbf, most alcohol warning are just because when you are drunk you don't pay attention to warnings/labels so it increases the chance of an overdose. It actually isn't for any actual reaction or deadly effects
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>>1191146
my "speed record" is 31 seconds, hard start to finish, to the channel on cable TV with scrolling news and the clock in the corner. Oh younger days.

get on my level
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>>1191226
K so just beer then
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>>1191143
One time I fell asleep on my tray and they put a bag of pretzels next to my head instead of waking me up.
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>>1191281
I think that part of the reason I can't fall asleep does that I'm afraid when they do come around to serve lunch or dinner I'll be asleep and I'll miss out.

I don't remember being given exact times when the meals would be served, and I'm a deep sleeper, and even if they did provide times I would need to know which time zone they were using.

So it is easier to just stay awake and watch one movie after another.
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>>1191293
>I'm afraid when they do come around to serve lunch or dinner I'll be asleep and I'll miss out.
Emirates does this thing where you get a set of stickers to stick onto your headrest.

>who the hell wants to get woken up for fuckin duty free shoppin?
>who on earth buys something in that anyways?
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That's pretty clever I wish all Airlines did that.

>who the hell wants to get woken up for fuckin duty free shoppin?

Emirates is so fucking expensive..... I thought the same thing but then I have magic that anyone flying on that airline prob could buy a few things duty free and not think much of it, while every detail of my trip is budgeted within strict limits.
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>>1190952
>>1190942
WHAT IS THE MASK FOR, DONT FUCK WITH ME

Yes I'm mad.
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How do all of you people sleep? I can't sleep. I take flights straight after work and my travel time is around 30 hours (I fly from Asia to east coast USA). Add on my work day and I'm awake a solid 40 hours and having to navigate commuting, flights connections, foreign airports, and immigration offices.

>>1190920
Interesting and good idea.

>>1190940
I don't want to get sick traveling to a county I don't have health insurance for again. Plus, masks are pretty normal for public transport where I live.
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Hand sanitizer and hygienic wipes. Those airplane trays are breeding grounds for bacteria and never get properly cleaned. Same goes for the toilet for obvious reasons.
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>>1191347
Same here. It causes me to be dead as fuck for the next few days. Probably would not even have jetlag if I was able to sleep on the plane.
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>>1190904
Valium.
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>>1191000
>I had a bus ride that was 7 hours though.
I've had bus and train rides 11 hours+ and I'd much rather have that than 2 hours on a plane.

Taking the plane is just too much of a hussle.
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>>1191346
what are you even talking about? A sleep mask, you use it to sleep
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>>1191346
Someone get this hothead out of here!
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>>1191372
>Taking the plane is just too much of a hussle.

Hassle* you fucking retard.
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Xanax and the cheapest shot of alcohol at the airport bar.
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>>1190904
I regularly fly Boston to Japan. sometimes I bring nip bottles that meet TSA rules. Otherwise I don't sleep and just go to bed local time when I get there.
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>>1191350
Hate to break it to you, no proof sanitizer is effective
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I see a lot of people recommend alcohol, but is it really that effective? I'm not a drinker and don't want to chance disturbing others every hour to get up and go to the bathroom.
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Hate flying with a passion but I'm thinking about going to glorious nippon eventually albeit in business class to have some space (my main issue with flying is claustrophobia). It would be about 12 hours.
Do you think I should do it? My longest flight to date has been about 7 hours and I'm scared I might lose my shit halfway through.

I really should get professional help.
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>>1192001
A small amount of alcohol mixed with a small amount of benzos will put you to sleep without ever needing to get to the bathroom. A lot of alcohol might fuck you if you wake up on the decent and you can't use the bathroom so I personally wouldn't chance it because you'd probably have to piss like a race horse.
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>>1192003
If you're really that scared, professional help is indeed an idea.
Also bring a good friend along, someone who can handle you venting.

The best if you end up flying eventually is to somehow make sure you sleep through most of it. So get any sort of sleeping pills, wear eye mask, ear plugs, etc. And when you don't sleep and don't feel distracted enough by a good book or movie, just walk around, do simple exercizes.
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>>1192003
I have to second what >>1192028 said. I fly to Japan occasionally, but I don't mind flying. Distracting yourself with a book or movie will help you a lot. When I flew from Canada to Japan, the plane experienced a lot of turbulence over Alaska which was jarring. I started watching a sci-fi movie, then the turbulence felt like I was in a 4D movie and it wasn't so bad.
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>>1191436
I was talking about the mask you wear on your face. Unless you're a doctor treating a patient mid-air I don't get it. Is it for hygiene? It's just air right?

>>1191447
I have bicycled the Nile River kid, do you really want to get me going
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>>1192003
Flying in business is nice. You get lots of room and the cabin is made to look as big as possible. Its like sitting in a lounge really.
Also drink a lot of alcohol since its free and its fun to try and walk to the bathroom when drunk. Time goes fast when you are drinking champagne and eating while watching a movie.
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>>1192003

Ask your doctor for beta blockers, they're used off label to help prevent anxiety attacks for people who know they're going to be in a stressful situation. Basically how it works is that it slows your heart rate, which stops it spiking during stress and makes it difficult to have a panic attack. It won't make you feel less scared but it will stop you from worrying about having a panic attack, which seems like your main issue anyway.
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>>1190904
Don't you feel that having all that shit makes you look like a girl who wears make-up when swimming?
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>>1191346
you didn't care who i was until i put on the mask
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>>1190927
>guitar
>amp

the fuck is wrong with you
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>>1192262
>the fuck is wrong with you
Probably trolling. Or…
Maybe he plugs in his headphones and does silent music.
Last weekend I had a few hours to kill at LAX and happened to be flying first class due to Deltas weird pricing decisions, so I was hanging out in their 1st class lounge, and there was a dude with a keyboard, plugged into his macbook, with headphones on, silently clacking round on his keyboard.
Looked like a scene from that guitar hero southpark episode, where they play without sound.
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>>1192281
But
>I'm flying first class
bragging aside:
>What are your tips for long-haul flights?
1. Drink lots of water
2. Drink some beer
3. Bring some good headphones, because the ones on the plane are always shit
4. Watch some movies. Many airlines also have some "local" ones that you probably won't see on the TV or netflix. I watched some hilarious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvmTPcL6330) dutch comedy when flying with KLM for example.
Oh, and
5. Bring some rubber!
No, not condoms, but pic related.
Total live safer! no need to bother people all the time to walk around, and lets face it, you can't really walk enough on a plane anyways, since everyone tries it and the aisles are blocked. And even if you are on a A380 or 747 you probably are not allowed to walk the stairs for some extra workout, so just do it in your seat.
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>>1190904

>hoodie, ear plugs, sleep mask, neck pillow

thats it. and a determination to sleep. as soon as im done eating the airline dinner its lights out. im not a very disciplined person in life, but i can force myself to sleep through a 9+ hour no problemo.

i didnt used to mind flying when i was younger, but started disliking it more and more, and most of the flights i take are east coast -> europe so... i just sleep.
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>>1192286

just want to add on this. lackpacked through europe a bunch on trains (what i do when i eventually land lol) and sometimes dont get a cabin for the overnight trip.

totally different. first of all this year they would NOT turn off the lights due to "safety regulations". that coupled with constant passport controls if you dont get a cabin (they hold passport overnight if you get a cabin, reason being).

some overnight trains will still have cabins, but the cabins will have seats inside instead of beds, if you get me. like a sliding door, 6 seats inside. the best of these are the ones where the seats stretch all the way out and actually connect. caught a couple of these going from Italy->Germany. pure bliss.

in Germany though... I experienced hell on train. double isle of seats, lights didnt turn off all night, loud as fuck germans, and the same passport control.
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Nothing special. Cause I deal with it. I've done a 3 days of non stop travel with a water bottle.
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>change into pjs before gate opens
>bose headphones
>2 air pillows and 1 neck pillow
Stack the pillows on your tray and sleep leaning forward, it will loosen the pressure on your legs and you can rest your head sideways.
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>>1191295
fuck emirates is so good, managed to get them 500$ to japan and it was pretty cash
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>>1190918
>tfw that's STILL easier than reserving time on the squat rack and waiting in line at the pl8 dispenser...
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>>1192297
also it's really unpolite towards the person in front of you
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Dissolve 10mg valium under my tongue. Eat some fitness snack bars. Try to watch any IFE movie, pass out during it. Wake up to go to toilet, take 10mg valium and put in earplugs. Wake up around 2 hours before landing, wash my face, apply lotion, brush my teeth. Still able to meet people and be productive the night I landed and slept like a log for 8 hours once I got to bed.
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>>1192307
First half of the post was cut because I'm on a shift Wi-Fi and failed posting the first time.

I pack:
valium/xanax/rivotril
nutritious snacks (hate airplane food)
earplugs
toothbrush & paste
energizing & moisturizing facial lotion

First post was about my 11 hour flight I just landed yesterday.
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>>1190904
If a flight is longer than 6 hours I wake up early enough to go to the gym and work out for 1.5-2 hours. I fucking hate working out, but damn if it ain't effective in helping me sleep on a plane
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>>1190904
All I pack in my carry on, or my person for long flights
>Book to read
>iPod with over ear headphones for music and noise cancelling
>Noteblock for doodling
>Pens and pencils
>Cellphone for other distraction

It helps to go to the bathroom from time to time, just to stretch your legs
Luckily I'm an easy sleeper so I can actually sleep on a flight. Almost never more than 90 minutes at a time though. Had one 10 hour flight in which I managed to sleep 5 hours straight, god that feels so great
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How do you manage several long flights in a row? Especially with overlay in between.

I get the urge to shower after being 24+ hours on the road. Too bad very few airports outside of europe have showers to rent. How do you guys handle the potential smell?
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>>1192422
Wearing deodorant and carrying some "wet ones" or other personal wipes to clean your hands, face and neck every now and again should be enough. Just how smelly do you get sitting around watching movies or napping for 24 hours?
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>>1192434
Not much, but I feel smelly and being in hot areas like middle eastern airports doesn't help.
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I bought this FaceCradle on Kickstarer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTmRRJbl6Js

Still waiting it to be delivered. Hope it works as well as shown in the ad.
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>>1192461
that shit looks so autistic holy fuck
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>>1192461
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>>1190904
If I created a Hulu account in the US would I be able to easily use it to watch TV in Vietnam or other countries or will I need a VPN or some other bull shit first??
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>>1190906
i do 50 press-ups and star jumps usually
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>>1191000
mate some genius back in my secondary school days planned our coach trip from the UK to eastern Austria. 45hr total, 38 on an old af coach with barely any leg room
pic semi related
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>>1191346
theyre so when you open your eyes they're actually still closed so you don't wake up because your eyes are still closed when you're asleep and don't want your eyes open when they do open hook hand door man hand hook hand hook man door man
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>>1192287
planning on doing a loop from Antwerp to Amsterdam but down through France across Italy and up through Germany before coming east to the end soon. Any advice you'd give? how long do the rides take? Gmaps said 55hours total which seemed short but maybe i'm used to Bong Trains that go little faster than our motorways
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>>1192461
Looks pants-on-head retarded, all jokes aside.
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>>1192003
I have this exact fucking problem. I am getting some valium to chill out with and meditating everyday up until my flight to acclimatize. My main thing is not being able to get off the plane once I am on it and getting so anxious I get stuck in another country.

One method I am trying is to imagine myself as a passenger on the plane and giving up control to the pilot. I dont care about dying my really fear is getting so anxious I wig the fuck out.
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>>1192485

first of all, that sounds batshit CRAZY. Antwerp to Amsterdam is like what... a 2 hour train ride? but, as far as i understand, you are going through Nice, into Savoy, Italy, prolly touch Milano, jet to Sud-Tirol, train to Austria where you can stop at Innsbruck if you want, hit Munich, Bavaria (the girls here... hngggg), and then do some crazy shit where you prolly cut straight through Germany into Cologne (if you stop here go to Paschas) then go Cologne->Amsterdam.

i'd suggest like a 10-15 days in 2months sort of deal. trains are now free, though you sometimes gotta pay like 10 euros for a reservation. lot of times you dont actually need it though.

make the most out of the 24 hour window, which is you take a train after like 7p.m and it counts as the next day, so you can travel farther on "1 days" worth of travel. you also want to make the most out of the annoying, early morning trains as night trains usually cost a reservation.

train rides can be as long as you want. I've had to travel from Copenhagen->Rome as basically fast as I could on a train, and you can only use 1 day of travel. You basically catch a 7p.m train taking you somewhere into Germany, then on that same travel day, keep chugging hard-core and make it to Rome. i dont think you want to do this though, it is BRUTAL.

>tl;dr get a train pass, free tickets but you pay some reservation
>obviously bring big bottles of water, croissants, ham and cheese on train rides from grocery store
>bring some wine and grapes and shit to wine an dine the ladies (srs) (pickles and beer in Germany obviously)
>for local trains, DON'T use your train pass. pay the measly 10 euros to go say from Rome->Bracciano.
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>>1192238
I hate you
>>1192483
I'm no longer mad

>>1192575
Every body dies you nincompoop. Why are you so worried about flying? These days the pilot doesn't even do anything he just let's the compuer take over and computer is smart than human.

Listen, if you think getting inside a giant pressurised metal tube accelerated by oversized turbines at incredibly high speeds, controlled by magic and air is scary; you are a babby
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>>1190904
Piss into a condom to avoid long lines to the toilet.

If you run out of movies to watch on your flight, throw said condom down the aisle for extended entertainment
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How do you guys deal with peeing on them?

>It’s a nightmare with everyone moving into the middle of the plane so I can squeeze through. I get up and everyone stares because I’m causing a commotion. They all look up, our eyes meet, I feel very ashamed.
>When I get there, 2 people are waiting. I have to stand there, awkwardly not knowing where to look, what to say, where to lean... Someone shouts “never enough bathrooms“, I don't know what to say.
>Eventually the guy in front of me is finished and looks me dead in the eyes (did he even wash his hands?). I hate entering knowing he did something in there that I don’t want to know about.
>Because of the movement of the plane, it will take longer to aim and get comfortable. This is where the real struggle starts, "Please" I say out loud trying to force a start...
>Notice a gap under the door and see the shadows of other people waiting. After 20 minutes I have to give up. I wash my hands. Look at myself in the mirror and hate the scared kid who couldn’t pee.

It entered my mind that I might die from this one time. Holding in my urine for a whole day will kill me.
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>>1192636
Just pee yourself
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Phone with shit loads of music on
30mg Valium
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>>1192636
Sit down to piss
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>>1192636
I take medication to make me able to hold it longer. There are no 20 hour continous flights the most you'll have is maybe 14, like from the midwest to Korea.
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>>1192581
thank you sm for this reply, It's helped a lot. How brutal is that route.. we you're right about the destinations w nice and all. also correct about Bavaria- going up along the Rhine though as the trains are faster. Why jet to sud Triol when we could just train, though ?
Also why pay for the local trains? and is there any items you'd particularly recommend bringing?
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>>1192636
How do you even survive your destination?
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>>1192636
Literally pretend you have worth as much as every one else. Other people have issues and don't blow them out of proportion. Empathize with that and give yourself dignity with the knowledge that you aren't the person with the worst issue there, just the one with the worst ability to hide it from yourself. Consider that the people you meet on a plane will never see you again afterwards, and use that to take care of your needs first over the perceived opinions of others. Once you're in the bathroom it's your time and anyone barging in on it (read: anyone who you think is impatient) can go fuck themself.
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>>1191227

Not true. Alcohol and benzodiazepines (the stuff that's in sleeping pills) both interfere with the tenth cranial nerve and supress breathing. You can literally suffocate if you take both at the same time.
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>>1190906
I would be supremely annoyed yet amused
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>7 hour flight
>3 hour stopover
>another 7 hour flight

Please kill me.
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>>1192742
That's why I buy direct flights when possible.
It's just too exhausting to fly with stop overs.
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>>1190920
how do you get away with bringing that on the plane?
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>>1192742
Thats honestly nothing, i've done way way worse.
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>>1192474
Bump
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>>1192461
That does seem pretty shit, but I think it would be useful as fuck desu
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Some good tips

1. If it is not a full flight, look for empty seats in a row (three consecutive seats). Flight attendants do not care if you move to another seat as long as it is the same economy class. Raise the armrest up and you can lie down. I know it's not exactly a king-sized bed, but it's much better than sitting up the entire time.

2. When you check in, tell the ground flight attendant that you're worried that you may not able to catch a bus which leaves like 45 minutes after the plane lands. If they are nice, they will tag your baggage as priority bag. You do not have to wait long to get your bags after arrival. (you can use this tactic only if the airport you arrive is connected to good public transportation system like bus or subway)
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>>1192746
I find the layovers relaxing and rejuvenating and like exploring airports, and if long enough, the city it resides. Direct flights are painful. As an American traveling to Asia, at least 12 hours. Often more.
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>>1192767
Beat this, senpai:
>2 hour car drive to bus
>5 hour bus drive to bus station
>2 hour stopover
>6 hour bus drive to airport
>12 hour wait at airport for flight
>11 hours flight
>4 hours stopover
>2 hour flight
>1 hour train drive

And I could not sleep for a fucking second. I was paralyzed and was so tired, I didn't even felt tired anymore.
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>>1192482
>>1192858
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xanax and a small bottle of duty free whiskey = time machine
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>>1192951
Sounds like a blackout machine, not in a good way.
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>>1190935
>my recently born child, a chunk of aged stilton to snack on, my nail clippers, and the grievances I've been building up internally against my partner
ROFL, under-rated post. I picture you snipping your toenails in public, while lost in your venomous thoughts. The stilton just adds a little class to it all.
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>>1191299
>>who the hell wants to get woken up for fuckin duty free shoppin?
Oh, you might be traveling to somewhere that you should be bringing a "what'd you get me?" kind of special present to your family member or host, or you might simply live somewhere remote from ordinary malls and boutiques (out on the ranch! lol) and would find it hard to find that brand of booze, or line of fragrances, even from mail delivery.

I always get duty free going into Iceland where alcohol is so tariffed and expensive locally. It's nice to have a bottle to open up in your hotel room at some point to enjoy with some ice and a tumbler. Talking like $20 savings vs local prices. It can also be one way to get items you couldn't otherwise pack and take onboard without a checked bag.
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>>1192001
>I see a lot of people recommend alcohol, but is it really that effective? I'm not a drinker and don't want to chance disturbing others every hour to get up and go to the bathroom.
Alcohol can remove inhibitions and relax you, but too much can add to the dehydration that is common with recirculated cabin pressurized air, and the sleep that alcohol provides can be less than the deep REM, or lengthy sleep people need. So ideally you stay away from alcohol in the air, but if you know it works for you to get you in the mood to relax, then, you do only as much as you need, and keep the water intake up as well.

My ankles swell if I drink in the air now, and I can count on that happening for sure, so wear shoes that can loosen up :/ I skip alcohol, but I used to start a flight with celebratory morning bloody mary or offered mimosa, or finish my wine paired with dinner with a cordial like a Baileys. Oh well. If i'm going to spa it, like swim at my hotel pool on day 1, or otherwise relax, I'll drink anyway and enjoy my flight and just have a recovery day upfront in my trip.
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>>1192738
Alcohol and benzos go together like fine cheese and wine.
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>>1192798

Never seen empty seats in a row.
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>>1193074
That's unlucky.

I'm not the same person, but I had some pretty decent flights just getting 3 seats next to each other.
Sometime I could already see during check-in online that the plane was going to be empty.
But I also always check at the counter in the nicest possible way if they have empty rows. When they do, they just give me a new seat without issues.

Also you can sit on most flight wherever you want, they just want you to sit on your assigned seat during take-off due to the weight calculations.
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>>1192615
Oh look, it's another one of those retards who think phobias are rational.
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>>1192636
>"Please" I say out loud trying to force a start..
Holy kek.

Anyways dude, an airplane is one of the easiest places to take a piss. You have your own closed off room and the background noise is so fucking loud no one will hear your urine hitting the toilet. You could be washing your face or brushing your teeth for all they know.
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>>1192798
>If it is not a full flight, look for empty seats in a row (three consecutive seats)
.T someone who last flew in 1996
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>>1193012
Not too well during a flight I'd say. When I was still a drinker, I remember waking up from my Xanax coma to get up to the toilet and literally just collapsed and was delirious for a good while before cabin crew dumped me towards the pisser.

A good dose of benzo and a couple of pints work well in most situations though, agreed.
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>>1192798
>implying flights are ever not full
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>>1193427
??
You're just unlucky.
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I've been looking at cheap noise cancelling headphones and I'm thinking about going for the golzer banc-70. Would anyone have any other suggestions?
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>>1193543
Nope, because cheap isn't good in noise canceling. Expensive isn't even always good, looking at you Beats. Bose QC 35s are great. Maybe look at some Sennheisers, but if you want to cheap out just buy any over the ears, one without sounf leakage, and turn up the volume. Hell, some nice buds will work
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>>1193447

benzos + alco kills you

what the fuck
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>>1192466

>looking autistic


Woah! Some stranger that I've never saw and will never see again is thinking inside his head that I look autistic while I sleep confy as hell in a long ass flight.

Couldn't care less.
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>>1192858

Where the fuck were you?
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>>1191102

Or you could get up and go to the restroom like a human being...
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Wear a hoodie, earphone (it doesnt need to be a noise cancelling one. Just lower the volume to the minimum. Some planes require 2 3.5mm jacks, and some carriers like klm offers free adaptors with their shit phones), wet wipes, eye patches, and that's it. Your aim is to sleep as much as possible especially when crossing timezones. You might want to ask for your favorite alcohol coz it'll be most probably free for 8h+ flights even in economy.
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>>1190924
face oil fogyuiuccckcckkccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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>>1192474
VPN or DNS server
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>>1192798
>freerow
What is this 2001?
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>>1191368
/THREAD
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>>1192951
seriously this works wonders, I would kill myself if I had to do 14+ hours in economy without xanax. hell even when I fly business I need the stuff.
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>>1194986
I have tons of Xanax, but I'm kind of paranoid on bringing them to the airport. When do you guys take it? On the plane? On the airport?
I'm really looking forward on taking it for my next trip, I don't want to have 48 hours of no sleep.
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>>1190904
Nintendo 3ds, a good book, eye mask, ear plugs, and a warm ass hoodie. My go-to kit for NYC to Tokyo and San Fran to Manila flights.
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>>1195007
I don't know why you are nervous about it. I carry a sheet in my pocket, usually I have rivotril, but whatever benzo I can get really. I take some right before the first meal, usually doze off for 4-5 hours after that and maybe take another one if I wake up and can't fall asleep again.

I have a pretty high benzo tolerance though.
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>>1193673
Nah, you have a risk of respiratory depression if you go overboard with it but taking a xanax bar before drinking is not too bad. Lowers inhibitions and makes you more loose with a soft body high.
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Xanax. Tell your doctor you get nervous during take-offs, he'll prescribe you some.

They'll put you asleep pretty quickly.

Also basic stuff - window seat or aisle seat - order a drink or two(Don't go crazy, Xanax will give it a synergistic effect)


As for the more subjective advice:
I always bring really good over the ear headphones(Momentum 2.0 for me but I'm a audiophile cunt. You can get other fine Headphones for 40$ - the key is for them to be comfy and cover your ears)

Neck Pillows are great too. Also, eat a bit but not too much.
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Longest flights:
Beijing to Seattle: 11 hr 30 min
Johannesburg to Paris: 10 hr 55 min
Orlando to Keflavik: 7 hr 10 min
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>>1195143
I'll bring 5-6 time traveling pills then. Ty
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>>1192042
How do you bike down a river its water?
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Has anyone ever struck up a conversation with people on a plane and just had a nice chat for a few hours? Maybe even made a friend in the process, I like the idea of speaking to randoms but I don't think I could ever initiate that shit.
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>>1195474
Just wait to talk to them until the plane lands so you have a good excuse to walk away if you don't like them. That's what I do.
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>>1190904
For about 15 years I've been traveling to the US and back to Russia at least once a year. For the past 3 years I've been flying here and back twice a year. It takes three flights in total, the longest being LAX -> Incheon (about 13 hours). I used to pack a lot of stuff, now all I really use are headphones and my sansa clip.
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>>1195474
All the time. If I don't want to talk I'll just put in headphones and watch a movie or something. There's no expectation to talk for the entirety of a 15 hour flight. I've met some cool people on airplanes.
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Maybe it's just me or the fact I don't get to travel in a plane at most once every three years, but just watching the farmland clouds and sea are enough for me.
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>>1195474
Yeah, I met my wife on a plane. She was sitting next to me and I struck up a conversation commenting on how horrific the food they served in the plane was.
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>>1191099
>try again to sleep but by now it's too late so stare listlessly into space
I empathize so hard. This is torture, anon. Especially looking around at everyone else all snuggled up and drooling.
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>>1191351
>>1191347
Out of three transatlantic flights, I was FUBAR for several days by jetlag on the only flight on which I did not sleep. So even though n=3 I'm still convinced well-timed sleep is the best thing to do to avoid ruining yourself for the first few days of your trip.
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>>1193543
literally the only noise cancellation (not isolation, cancellation) that's worth the money is bose
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>>1190904

Small story for you.

>getting flight from Heathrow, London, to Haneda, Tokyo
>have to swap over at Beijing
>first part of the flight is 10 hours, second part is 3
>flight takes off at 18:00 UK time
>on plane and just watched a film
>check phone
>wow, it's already 23:00 UK time
>we must be halfway there!
>this is so easy!
>check flight map
>just entered Russia
>wtf
>2 hours later
>phone says 01:00
>start panicking
>been 7 hours and we aren't even halfway there
>getting really hot in the plane
>am I in hell?
>can't get comfy, stupid small seats and fat Chinese man next to me
>can't reach my bag under the seat
>all films left are Chinese
>nothing to do
>going mad
>phone says it's 04:00
>we should be there but only just entering China
>finally get to Beijing
>fucking flight was 13 hours
>but strangely not late for next flight
>maybe I just looked at flight times wrong?
>get on board
>ask hostess what time it is in Japan
>tells me it's only 1 hour ahead of China
>wtf, phone is only 5 hours behind China time
>they must be wrong
>finally get to Tokyo and get to flat
>ask family what time it is in UK
>it's midday
>wtf phone says 15:00
>realize phone updated timezone over Russia
>started freaking out only 2 hours into flight

And my flight back is going to take even longer. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle it.
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>>1196469
If you cannot get sleeping pills or like melatonine till the flight back, get ear plugs, eye mask, drink a little wine, sleep etc
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>>1195518
That's actually really cute and I'd like to hear the full story :). But the first thing that popped into my head was:

>What's the deal with airline food?
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>>1191295
>Emirates does this thing where you get a set of stickers to stick onto your headrest.
I slept through dinner on China Southern Airlines the other day and they stuck a card on my tray table bottom so that I saw it when I woke up. It said, 'you missed out on dinner because we didn't want to wake you so press the call button' and I did and they came over and swapped the card for a meal.

bretty gud

I've been on plenty of flights where they wake you up because they don't want to come back.
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>>1196469
Tens of thousands of people manage long flights like that every day. Bring a book or just sit quietly. Literally all you have to do is sit there.
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Just eat some edibles at the airport and save some for the flight. Easy to hide and you can just munch them whenever you feel the high going away.

I haven't had a flight in years where i was not stoned for the whole ride.

Time flies this way and you don't even need to sleep.
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>>1190904

I sometimes feel like I'm the only person actually enjoying the act of flying. Yeah it can be mildly uncomfortable at times but fuck who cares? You step into a pressurized metal tube for a few hours and you step out of it on the other side of the damn planet.
I fly on average 60 times per year and a good third of that is >9hrs. Sometimes it's good, yeah sometimes it's bad, but it's never awful.

I pack:
> sleep mask & earplugs
> melatonin
> charged phone, laptop and kindle
> headphones
> pre load on a diverse mix of entertainment (books, music, series, movies) and things that keep you mentally challenged (work/study)
> toothbrush
> hand lotion because dry and ashy skin is fucking annoying
> hoodie
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>>1192422

Lounges have showers. Fly a lot? Status or J (business) class tickets gets you in the lounge. Shower there.
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>>1196642
this. plus, virtually every international airport has a shower that you can use for money if you're a pleb and don't have status.
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>>1190904
>What are your tips for long-haul flights?
Premium economy.
It's usually not too much extra and if you have some status then you can often get it for free, even just by asking or moving to a free seat once you're on board (they don't usually kick people out of premium economy seats, it's not a true class like business).

The extra leg room in premium is enough for me to sleep and I'm a tall guy with knee problems.
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>>1196634
Replying because Flying is fucking fun son. Planes are cool as shit, too.

Anyway, I brought a bunch of my electronic stuff to keep me entertained, but only ended up using my phone and the touchscreen in front of my seat to read the news, and that was on a 16 hour flight from Melbourne to LAX. I just played music and slept on the flight pretty much.
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>>1196634

> hand lotion because dry and ashy skin is fucking annoying
> hoodie

I don't know about melatonin, but I'm guessing you've got enough melanin already.
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>>1196659
kek, I'm white.
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>>1195180

ha, I am about to fly from Amsterdam to Buenos Aires. 15 hours.
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>>1191218
>>1191226
>>1191227
Nurse here.
If you're having one pill and one drink it's fine. You'll be drowsier than if you hadn't had the drink but alcohol won't turn benzos into poison.

The problem is that some people have a handful of pills and a handful of drinks and then it does get risky. Apart from heavy sedation affecting your ability to breathe there's also the nasty risk of falling asleep in a position that cuts off bloodflow to part of your body.
I've seen a man lose an arm because he laid on it after taking a shot of heroin. It's such a sad stupid way to lose a limb.

But yeah, one tabl. diazepam and a shot of whisky won't kill you.
Might make you hit on the stewardess, but it won't kill you.

If you haven't done benzos before you should consider trying it before the flight. They take away inhibition as well as fear and if you really do hit on the stewardesses hard enough you might get kicked off the flight.
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>>1190904
>Get drunk
>go to airport
>get through TSA
>get whatever cheapest drink is at cheapest bar
>get in plane
>pass the fuck out
>wake up at X place
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I can never really sleep on flights. I usually do Paris to Sydney a few times a year and I am awake for the entirety and some.
-Isle seat
-Sleep pill (never work)
-Phone + headphones
-Moisturiser

Had a cranky old bitch sitting in front of me for my last. She kept dumping her rubbish under her seat and onto my feet while having the balls to complain about me moving my table.
I went off my head when she dumped one of those little wine bottles hall full under her seat and over my shoes
Safe to say that the whole cabin awoke at that moment and the old bitch got a fright.

Hate flying economy.
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>>1194198
t. autist
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>>1192422
Wet wipes are the answer my friend. They're not perfect but it'll do.
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>>1192649
This.
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>>1196634
Yeah I really enjoy travelling of most sorts, including flying. There's this pleasant knowledge that you will get to where you are going eventually, so just relax and enjoy the unrushed atmosphere of the plane journey.
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>>1191987
>Hate to break it to you, no proof sanitizer is effective
Huh? It doesn't kill a couple resistant germies like norwalk virus, but it kills quite a few things. That said, it's for use of volume buttons on the armrest, the tray table unlock buttons and items you are forced to touch, not so much spring cleaning, so you can sensibly put your toddlers crackers out onto the tray table for finger food, nor retrieve and eat a spare peanut that slipped out of the packet. Wipes are indeed better than gel sanitizer, as well, since friction can be applied.
There are sanitizing wipes that are better than Lysol brand, hospital grade Sani- brand, but its too toxic for skin contact and is used only while wearing gloves.
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If you have trouble with long flights your life is waaayyyy too easy.

I have so much shit to do everyday that once I get the chance to sit on a plane for 12 hours, getting served cute food, reading great books and watching movies feels like a vacation

Toughen up soft cunts
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Last time I flew I was told to put my phone way. This wasn't during takeoff or landing, it was the middle of the flight with everyone around me playing on tablets or similar devices with wifi. Is this normal?

I had loaded up a bunch of stuff to read on my browser and then switched to airplane mode at the airport, I had a paperback with me but it didn't get me too far on a 12 hour flight.

East China Airlines
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>>1197781
put my phone away*
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>>1197781
Was it a Samsung phone?
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>>1193074
I just had two flights where I had whole rows to myself flying from Hawaii to Seattle then Seattle to Minneapolis-St. Paul.

But I'm too tall to lie down in them without bunching up my legs and getting a cramp. On the bright side, no need to squeeze my shoulders together.
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>>1196634
The only times I enjoy flying are when I have at least one empty seat next to me in Economy, have a fancy in-flight entertainment suite in front of me, or am flying Business or First class.
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>>1190918
/fit/pls LONDON won't solve your problems
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>>1191295
>WAKE ME UP
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>>1191295
>>1198240
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>>1199081
kek'd
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>>1196569
>I've been on plenty of flights where they wake you up because they don't want to come back.
This is why you don't fly North American airlines
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>>1199087
>North American airline

It's not just them. Qatar woke me up 2 hours into a 14 hour flight. Why the fuck would I want food if I'm sleeping?
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EDC for long haul flights:

Noise cancelling headphones
Stilnox
Decent sized water bottle
Tictacs
Face Cradle (refer pic) - bought it off Kickstarter however it will be in store pretty soon. Allows sleeping sitting up in economy fairly comfortably, but then again I slept 9hrs straight on my last long flight from 1 tab of Stilnox...
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>>1192461
>excuse me, can i strap my FaceCradle (tm) all over your TV screen?
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>longest flight I've ever been on was around 8-9 hours

wat do for 15 hours?
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>>1199287
14+14 jfc

sleeping pills on one of them, book + movie + wine + music + excercize on the other. learn all the in-flight excercize techniques there are. leg lifts and arm massage and whatever. walk up and down a lot.
eat half of the food you get. drink tons of water.
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>>1190904
>Avoid coach for business class if you have the money
>wear a facemask as a filter against sick people on board.
>bring portable battery charger in case your phone is low on batteries.
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>>1190904

On my most recent flights i brought a laptop with a wireless xbox controller, played through about half of the first thief game. Took a minute to set up with xpadder but it worked out great. Good video games are perfect for long flights
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The biggest lifesaver for me was adult diapers. Now I never have to worry about struggling to get out from the window seat when the person next to me is sleeping when I gotta go.
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>>1190904
I have sleeping problems already and I'm an extremely light sleeper. Coughing, kids crying, etc = no chance of me falling asleep. I usually stay up really late and get 8 hours of sleep the night before my flight (if I'm flying red eye). Then I just go to bed at night once I'm at my destination. Can be hard but I usually wake up feeling fine; if not completely normal.
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>>1190904
Inform myself about the airline's In-Flight Entertainment system
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>>1190904
drink for like 6 or 7 hrs before going into the airport

get through check in and stuff

sit in your chair, chug some water

pass the fuck out
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I've just been using the onboard squat rack and weights room now. Get there early though, the line is a mess
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>>1191146
bruhh I take under a minute

I have this disgusting go-to category when I need to ejaculate quickly
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>>1192461
>someone has a tv on the back of your seat
rip
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>>1196634
I agree my dude

I love flying. I love airports, I love layovers
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>>1196569
yeah I thought that was standard, they stick something to your headrest, or give you a card or something.

I've slept through dinner, and they stuck something on my headrest, and when one of them walked past me, she told me what happened, and if I want food
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>>1199610
>Benching 80kg in the cabin gym
>I can usually do more, but no one was around to spot me, so I wanted to play it safe
>While I'm lifting the bar, and bringing it down, I feel turbulence
>OHFUCK.bmp
>seatbelt sign comes on
>what_the_fuck_i'm_on_the_bench
>Painfully lift the bar, and try and put it in place
>"I COULD REALLY USE A SPOT RIGHT NOW" I shout
>air hostess runs in, squeals "SIR Please return to your seat"
>She realises the predicament I'm in
>She runs out, calls someone, 20 seconds later the pilot walks in
>He is buff as fuck
>The turbulence is getting extreme
>One of the air hostesses grabs him, while he is lifting the bar with me and putting it in place
>After it's safely on the rack, I get up, secure the bar down, and thank the pilot and air hostess.
>The pilot says "No worries, get back to your seat now", nods and walks back, presumably to the cockpit
>Air hostess escorts me to my seat
>I crash on the seat, arms sore as fuck
Fuck me, never again.

After that, everytime I want to hit the cabin gym, and there's no one there, I just walk back, find the buffest guy, and ask if he wants to do a set with me
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>>1192482
sorry for being a potential idiot, but is that picture shopped or is it for realzies?

also >>1192858 would take legit skill to plan this badly
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>>1199619
What fucking airline are you going on that has no one at the squat rack?
I usually go to the cabin gym, and there is a fucking line.
Once I was right behind this one guy, and he decided to do a power set right in the gym. Stood there for a solid 25 minutes before I walked back to my seat and had to do arm curls in the fucking seat
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>>1199639
try flying from one flyover state to another, full of fatasses. The gym is usually empty on those flights
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>What are your tips for long-haul flights?

Nothing.
1st I bring a book, read it for 8 hours and then It became a heavy thing I didn't need for the trip.
Now, I just go there, sit, sleep or watch movies/listen to music.
Once in a while I can talk with people. Try it next time, it is awesome.
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>>1199081
kek
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I love in Malta and I have a friend in Edmonton Canada who really wants me to visit but holy fuck it's like 3 stopovers and like 12 hours+ total flight time. I'd be going for 3~ weeks to make it count but the long flights and luggage discrepancies (probably the first leg of the journey has to be done low-cost like with ryanair to stop me from spending so much just on flight) and all that shit just scares me.

I can never sleep much on flights and I get a bit claustrophobic and restless. I don't think I can afford the luxuries of upgrading class neither usually. The tips here are very helpful but also how does one even manage such a long trip with multiple carriers and maintain the same luggage allowances and plenty of time to transfer luggage from one trip to another without having to stay for 4 hours+ at each stopover to load them?
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I always make sure to have a couple of the in flight beers that are typically free with long haul flights. Two is enough to get you sleepy but not drunk and rowdy. Then I sleep for a while.
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>>1190904

I'll bring crying babies of course.
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>>1199811
>I love in Malta
Doesn't everyone?
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>>1192649
it's actually what you're supposed to do, but men are idiots who can't be bothered to do it so there's always drops of piss when it's your turn to go to the washroom
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>>1199906
>year 2017
>still no separate cabin in the back for families with their screaming spawn
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>>1199811
Make sure to double check that using Ryanair is actually cheaper than a proper airline. It may seem like a huge difference in price but Ryanair will make you pay to check in a suitcase, and won't fly to an airport anywhere near the one you'll be leaving from to do the Atlantic leg so particularly if you're flying into London the dicking around on public transport, and then potentially a really long layover with all the food that will entail will all end up adding up.
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>>1199619
hahahahahahaha
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>>1191099
>wake up for midnight cup noodles
Youre those fucks that stink up the whole fucking plane with that chicken flavoured stench filling up the metal lube tube that we fly in
>>
take a big shit befor you go
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>>1195474
Was flying from Japan to Moscow next to a Japanese q;t who was reading a book about Germany. Stuck up a conversation and talked for the last few hours of the flight. Ended up hanging out again when I visited Japan a year later
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>>1199619
Please make this our version of cinema showers, anvils and falcons
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Do you guys seriously not pack condoms?

What if you meet a qt during the flight?
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>>1199946
>12 hour flight in business class
>board the plane and get comfy
>a wild crotchfruit appears!
>fucking toddler screams most of the flight

Seriously kids should be banned from business class.
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>>1199999
Emirates A380 first class has a shower.
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>>1199619
Wait I actually thought you were just talking about your fitness routine, until you mentioned turbulence??

This is on an airplane????? How is it safe to have a gym on an airplane?
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>>1200000
>implying having sex on a plane is common

I don't know about you guys, but I don't fly 1st class. I can't even think of a position that's doable with such limiting space.
The other option is the bathroom but there is a constant line-up of people waiting to use it.

Is this a meme or can you actually have sex on a plane?
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>>1200058
does jerking it count?
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>>1200010
>Seriously kids should be banned from business class.
The pods kind of prevent some of the familial hanging out or monitoring of your child. It's a deterrent. But, kids scream due to cabin pressure. Get over the ear (not buds) active noise cancelling headphones. Good ones actually work and will kill a kid's noise in the seat right next to you.
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>>1200000
The fact that I weigh 190 pounds, am 5'11", and have mediocre hygiene already ensure that I won't be able to join the Mile-High Club.
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So I followed the old "get drunk to conquer flight anxiety" strategy you guys all said was so great and I passed out about an hour into the flight, woke up with people screaming and shoving me, I had pissed myself, got some pee on the lady next to me. Fuck you guys.
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>>1200000
As >>1200174 said. I'm 5'8, that instantly kills any chance of fast sex on a plane. Tho I jerk off a couple of times if it's a long flight.
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>>1199811
>Malta
>to Edmonton
unless your friend is a woman and is going to perform horrible, terrible, awful dirty shit for you for 3 weeks don't go from a paradise to a cold hick infested shithole.

t. Canadian
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>>1199974
I can't believe anyone actually does this

Who even has fucking cup noodles in a plane
reeeee
>>
limit caffeine
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>not bring your trumpet on board
>not playing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c at peak altitude
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>>1200000
>that get

This is real world, Thomas. Not a teenager american movie.
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>>1200126
What the fuck? ACTIVE noise canceling headphones will do nothing for crying babies. They're meant for low frequency distractions, like the hum of the airplane. You want noise isolation earphones/headphones because it prevents noises from even entering the ear.
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>>1200255
It just so happens that yes, part of it is basically pelvis-destruction-tier sex 2-3 times a day. and hey the place looks lovely and my friend is quite sophisticated.

>>1199910
Oh you~

>>1199957
Very good point. Was considering sticking to one airline, perhaps taking Lufthansa to Frankfurt or Munich, going to Toronto and then last flight to Edmonton. HUGE fucking travel, 3 goddamn stops and the thought makes my skin crawl but I want to do this.

I mean, I've never even seen snow. Malta's wonderful, it's home despite its flaws but I want to spread my wings, this would be the farthest trip I'd have done and I'd get to do shit I only seen in movies. Like hiking up a mountain, walk on a frozen river/lake, see wild animals bigger than a fucking BEETLE in their natural habitat etc. Shit a lot of people take for granted but to me, they're an experience I have yet to behold and I'm 30 bloody years old.
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>>1200371
>prevents noises from even entering the ear.
Someone complete deaf in one ear, can tell you that you can put a tuning fork on the temporal bone behind the deaf ear, and hear clear across in the other side perfectly. If you fail to put active noise cancelling sound behind your ear, then you fail from stupidity. Sealing an ear canal does nothing. There's a reason you see over the ear protection from the ground crew and roadies, not just orange foam sticking out.

Get a clue, Mr. Defensive. I can sit right next to a screaming baby and I've done it many flights. You can shout in my face, and I'm in my own world with active noise cancelling headphones. It's not the same with on ear or in ear. They're not cheap though.
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>>1195474
the best is cute old women who are genuinely interested in what adventures a spry young man like yourself is getting up to

they remark how theyre too old to do much travelling these days but are happy to see there are still people out there exploring
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I'm traveling outside of the country for only the second time in my life. (First time was a ferry from Washington to Canada last month.)

Going from LA to Rome, (stop over in London). Flying business class (also a first time not in coach). I've heard it will be nice and comfy, but do any of you lads have experience with this?
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>22 years old, finishing up university
>started at community college, took 3 years to transfer to a university
>finally given an opportunity to study abroad for fall 2017

I really REALLY fucking want to do it (going to France). I want to immerse myself so I can learn and become fluent outside of my french studying/classes. And I want to finally be in a European country as an adult. There's just one problem: I get extreme anxiety on planes and even 50 minute flights (from LAX to SAC) are fucking intense for me.

I will never get this opportunity to study abroad again and I don't want this fucking fear to stop me. It's ripping me up inside because I know that if I sign up and do it, the days leading up to the flight and then the flight itself are going to be so dreadful. I can't sleep on planes and I'm not the type to take pills/drink because being impaired sometimes makes my anxiety worse

My mind will drift and start to think of if the plane crashes, the fact that i'm stuck in a metal tube for 11+ hours etc etc

What do I do? I HAVE to go but fuckk this is so goddamn annoying.
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>>1200591
>I'm not the type to take pills/drink because being impaired sometimes makes my anxiety worse

Xanax will literally make you not capable of being anxious, this is just bullshit you make up in your mind to stop you from taking pills, the thought of taking the pills make you anxious, and the pills, ironically enough, are the cure for it.
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>>1200580
>Going from LA to Rome, (stop over in London). Flying business class (also a first time not in coach). I've heard it will be nice and comfy, but do any of you lads have experience with this?
Don't diddledaddle in Heathrow if your layover is shorter than 1-3 hours. It's miles of walking, stupid buses, outside tarmac vs jetways and other nonsense.
Even in the lap of luxury which is long haul business class, you should buy a liter of water after security for your seat hydration, some not too salty snack or two (I like trail mix or a granola bar, maybe something like gummis or a gourmet chocolate bar). You'll do TSA again when you deplane, so chuck the water before Heathrow looks at you like a noob and repurchase :/ Heathrow isn't a bad time to pick up a duty free item before going to Roma.
After a long flight like that where I always take an aspirin or two and some sudafed, I usually 4star my first night of hotel, and take it easy on Day 1, swim in a pool, go to a spa for massage, sit in a cafe and plan a bit, maybe only one activity like a fine restaurant, allow myself to sleep in or nap a bit. Melatonin and a good idea of your travel time and eventual time zone can give you a headstart to avoid a little jet lag recovery but elevation still zaps you. They can spoil you with alcohol, so keep the water intake up. Avoid heavy bags on your shoulders or back, 4 wheel rolling carryons is where it's at for that layover exercise.
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>>1200617
I don't like saying it but I used to use drugs and I had a traumatic experience with them, which is one of the causes of my anxiety. I want to avoid taking any drugs unless I absolutely need to for a medical purpose
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>>1200621
Btw Heathrow is quite chill, they have buckets where you can dump your water, and then you can take the empty water bottle inside, no matter the size.
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>>1200746
I think he's trying to say that you do have a legitimate medical purpose.
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>>1200591
Flying is statistically the safest mode of transport. There are mountains of data to support this. You might feel uneasy during takeoff & turbulence, but it is VERY unlikely that anything will go wrong.

Think of it this way:
Flying
>very high standards of quality & practice, even in third-world countries
>pilots & mechanics are highly trained professionals who are legally required to go through continued learning at very frequent intervals for the rest of their careers
>nobody fucks around in this industry, because the government can fuck with anyone who fucks up six ways to Sunday

Driving:
>poor quality control & standards of practices, even in first-world countries
>any joe schmoe can open a garage and claim to be a greasemonkey
>training schools exist, but they're seldom mandatory
>anyone can get their license as young as 16, in many countries
>people who have been driving for years, even decades, could still have no idea what they're doing

One thing that I find helps is to have a distraction. Read a book. Take a nap. Eat something.

Hell, use the in-flight entertainment unit. Those things actually help a lot, and were likely designed for that very purpose. I played Tetris & Street Fighter II to take my mind off the flight, and I was actually distracted to the point that a flight attendant actually had to touch me to get my attention.

Watch comedy movies, even if you're not normally into comedy, and even if the selection is shitty. You want to be laughing throughout the flight.
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> fake cry about claustrophobia to get free exit row seat while checking in
thats pretty much it
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>>1190904
Pack some mad jazz infused psychedelic rock and jam out with your 3ds
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>>1200903
It's illogical to fear flying over driving but I think the root of it is the total lack of control. If you drive the car and you see someone driving toward you, you can try to swerve and miss them, if you have a guy appear out of nowhere you can try to stop. If shit goes down on the plane, there is fucking nothing you can do but pray the pilot can handle it. Also most car crashes aren't "guaranteed death" like a plane crash is. Obviously the fatality stats are still much worse for driving than flying, but that is the emotional causes of the fear, aside from the intrinsic, "Man how the fuck does that huge heavy thing fly" reaction all people have to some degree.
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>>1200591
I flew from europe to istambul and from there to tokyo. I was only anxious a bit untill the plane took off from istambul, I realised "its is done" and I just relaxed.
Just turn on your seat televion and binge watch whatever you like...or available. Flying east, however will fuck with your body as in jetlag. If you arrive to europe at late evening or night, make sure not to sleep and just KO yourself by the time you get to your accomodation. I did that and it helped me to sleep through the first night, but the next two days were rough...going to sleep 6-8 hours earlier than you used to is hard. Traveling back west however is easier, basically you stay up later.
Bottom line, worry more about jetlag than the flight.
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>>1190904
all of this stuff but also those special socks that stop your legs and feet from getting swollen
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>>1190918

>2017
>not bringing plastic sacks and filling them with water in the lavatory
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>>1190904
Just gamed the system two times on long hauls from China.

Use the online seat selection. Get aisle seats in the back. It is unlikely that a check in person will put somebody next to you that far back in the plane. Twice now I've done 13 hour flights with three seats to myself. Beats business class. Drop a Xanax, fall asleep over Szenshen, wake up over Estonia. Feels good.
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>>1201771
I'm actually more surprised that there are empty seats available.
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>>1201772
So was I. Flying Cathay. But they have loads of flights every day, can't possibly fill them all.
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>>1201771
>Beats business class

Sounds like you haven't flown business class.
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>>1201772
eh I've flown Beijing to Singapore and it was many empty seats
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>>1201915
How many people willingly go to Singapore?
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>>1201937
for transit quite a bit
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>live in Asia
>never been to Europe
>want to go
>fucking hate super long flights and awful jet lag

What do?
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>>1201975
Seppuku.
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>>1192282

>look Middle Eastern
>take out long piece of red fabric
>get shot
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>>1192636
>People look at you
>You don't know what to say
Damn what a nightmare.
I'd just kill myself at that point.
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>>1191089
>tfw airports where there's only lukewarm/nearly hot water coming out of after-security bathroom faucets
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>>1202041
>wear a cathetar
>feel the urge to pee while sitting watching the in flight movie
>let go and feel the warm sensation of the bag filling against your leg
>look around smugly at people oblivious to the fact that your peeing in the comfort of your seat while they queue like chumps at a small cramped weird smelling cubicle
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>get bad flight anxiety
>got a four hour flight in two days
>anxious as fuck about it
>booked myself in 1c on a budget airline
>getting some Valium from the doctor

I haven't flown a flight longer then an hour in 4 years and I'm stressing about this am I doing it right /trv/?
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>>1202101
>fill up piss-bag mid-flight
>land
>arrive at customs
>get your belongings searched again
>have a transit flight
>they have to ask if you have liquids, laptops, Samsung Note 7, etc. again
>declare your liquids
>yes, you have liquids
>it's way over the limit
>they have to confiscate your urine
>smile at them smugly
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>>1200277
Under rated

Caffeine will cause you to be frequently and also dehydrate you
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>>1201975
Go anyway. Jet lag probably won't be too bad going to Europe, but it will suck when you head back to Asia.

>>1202132
Chew gum during take off and landing. I can't believe I forgot to put that in my original list! It'll help with stress and your breath will smell nice.

Then just remember to bring a book or comic book. I grabbed some comic books on a whim since they were thin and only $1. I also had music on my cellphone that I could listen to with headphones. If you feel up to it take a couple of naps. I also brought a small snack to drink with the water provided. That got me through my 6hr flight pretty easy. But I also think the looming, immediate connection to a 12 hour international flight also motivated to make the most of my 6 hours and rest.
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>>1190904
Not much. A good book in largish print so it can be read in a dim cabin, a blow-up neck pillow which I rarely use, and some snacks in case I get hungry.
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General rule of thumb for me:
Less than 3 hours - Economy. Just bring yourself and some earplugs. It goes by rather quick.
3 - 6 hours - Premium Economy (if offered, if not, just stick with economy). Basically bring earplugs and something to do. Can be a fucking notebook to doodle on.

6-10 hours - Premium Economy or above. Bring sleep mask, ear plugs. neck pillow, etc... that will make you comfy.

10-16 hours (these are the long hauls).
Business class. Most shit is provided to make you comfy, but feel free to bring your own personal comfiest blanket or pillow. Ear plugs are a must like always.

Disclaimer: I listed the classes because I can afford them. If you can't, these are still recommended because they're good (no shit).
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>>1190924
I think we're twins.
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>>1202266
Thanks SENPAI I'll get some gum I'm taking my laptop and eBook and phone so I'll have plenty to do. If I can conquer my fear of flying then I'll be able to finally start living a decent life.
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>>1199999
>anvils
fuck don't remind me

Once I was planning on sleeping throughout this whole flight, so I stayed up for almost 24 hours before, just so i can go in and crash on my seat

I was so sleepy I completely forgot about the anvil, and when I checked in at the airport, I didn't realize it, but my seat was basically right behind the on-board blacksmith room.

I sit down hoping no one would want to weld anything this flight, but lo and fucking behold as soon as we are in the air and the seatbelt signs come off, some guy walks into the room with a couple iron ingots, and starts hammering away at the anvil.

COULDNT. SLEEP. FOR. A. SECOND.

Once he's done, another person walks in and starting beating the anvil. This went on for the whole flight
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>>1202451
it's just practical stuff... but hello twin
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>>1190904
i usually take a sleeping pill, sleep for 9 hours, wait for the plane to land for about 2 and that's it.

i can only do it on night flights though.
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>headphones
>a laptop with movies
>a snack, just in case
It's an airplane, not a camping trip.
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>>1201909
I'd rather have two free seats and a couple thousand in my pocket than a nice BC seat
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Jesus, can't believe how many rich and spoiled fucking cunts exist in this world, so as in this thread.

>hurrr durrr gonna cry now I can't fly economy my weak body is gonna collapse need to bring all of my belongings on a flight and complain about food

Some of you don't deserve to even get out of your house, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I literally have no problem sitting on a fucking seat for as many hours as needed, and just stare at one point with my headphones on, as long as I get to my desired point. People are being disgusting slaves of conformism. I'd rather save up my money for something more worth than a fucking seat and food.
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>>1204304

Not our fault you're too poor to afford good seats, anon.
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first I check what movies are available during the flight... way before the flight.
Nothing worst than wasting space on your smartphone or whatever.. when they already got the movie.

>then I copy the Movies and TV Shows I want on all my devices.
>PSP and games battery is 6 hours+
>earplugs, headphones
>bottle of water, snacks
>diarrhea pill
>tissues, and anti-histamine pill
>comfortable clothes..for hot/cold weather
>pen
>a couple 1000 ebook pdf files to read
>powebank

cant believe all of you wear sleepmasks... wtf.
I guess I should too.
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>>1204304
>I literally have no problem sitting on a fucking seat for as many hours as needed, and just stare at one point


Autism: the post
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I always make pot brownies and take them onboard for a snack... i dont take any off the plane... dogs might smell it and such
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>>1190906
Mhmm, don't forget to take your shirt off. I usually do about 50-100 pushups and then jumping jacks until I'm sweating.
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