who's the worst artist you've ever commissioned?

Commissioned an artist for a single-character, flat-color, no-background image.

Took him an entire year to do it, meanwhile he churned out tons and tons of "gift art" for his friends. Claimed that my commission stressed him out because he wanted to put more effort into it. Once he finally completed it, it was not any higher quality than his "gift art".

>>9750564
none because i do not support jews.

>>9750964
>anyone who sells anything is a "jew"

>>>/pol/

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>>9750931
Had a similar experience for a waist-up, single-character, no background commission.

Artist was rapidly pumping out fanart, gift art, and art trades. Extremely flaky and didn't respond to her emails consistently. What really set me off was after around 11 months of waiting (Payment had been sent 11 months ago), she received a friend's half of an art trade, gushed about how good it was and that she'd have to get on her half, and pumped out a beautiful piece for them in a week.

Finally had enough at the one year anniversary mark and told her that if she was uninterested in doing it that I'd rather just refund the money and cancel it. She apologized, then proceeded to shit out a completely half-arsed WIP sketch for approval within a couple of days. It looked like she either lost my refs or didn't care enough to follow them. A week later I had my disappointing piece finally completed. It turned out so badly that I don't even have it posted anywhere.

Very grateful that 95% of my commission experiences have been excellent, but goddamn there are some flaky fucking artists out there.

>>9750931
>>9751145
Post the art and/or artists

CrazedG
i said it before, she's a damn great artist and I love her art
but she's slow as fucking shit
been waiting on a commission for half a year now

All artists who refuse to draw anything other than one bodytype because "it's their style"

>>9750564

your mother will die in her sleep tonight if you don't mode: post the fucking name of the artist and the picture you commissioned you dense fucks why would you just come here and make up stories

>>9751390
Don't say that. Artists who're invested in one bodytype don't /want/ to draw a different type because it's not within their scope of interest, and in most cases also can't because they have no experience in drawing it. They aren't going to go through the trouble of learning that anatomy for the sake of your commission. An analogy; sure, a heart surgeon /could/ hypothetically perform dentistry, but they aren't trained for it and it wouldn't be the best outcome for either the surgeon nor the patient.

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>>9751390
One guy I commissioned from /co/ didn't want to listen about correcting toe placement, so I don't look back on the pic fondly nor am I easily forgiving on anyone who makes the same mistake.

I've never commissioned an artist.

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>>9750564

>>9754425
these are probably the same people who go "Wahhh why is art of [fetish] so hard to find?"

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One time I commissioned a guy for a single character colored, no background image for $25. He told me he didn't have his tablet with him, and I believed him, so I waited a week like he told me to do and he said he still didn't have it. I told him then just to do it on a piece of paper and he said okay. Another week later he didn't do it, I called him out for it, then he went on a huge rant about how my commission was "stressing him out" with all the stuff he had to deal with. He even bullshitted about how he didn't have an eye and that his whole family was fucked and he didn't need to do my request.

Eventually I just gave up and he blocked me, later on I just got the request done from /aco/ for free.

Pic related, was the commission from /aco/

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>ARTIST IS BAD, DON'T COMMISSION HIM
>WHO IS ARTIST???
>....
FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>9756191
Correction, it was for two single characters colored, separate images. This was the other one I got done from /aco/ that he was meant to do.

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NAME THE FUCKING ARTISTS IDIOTS

>>9756301
Are these better or worse than what you would've gotten from him?

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>>9756461
Most likely better, from what he's drawn, he's been odd with anatomy.

I know by posting this he'll know who I am, but this is so far his best work that he's given me.

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>>9756494
Now this is his worst one, he actually doesn't color it so thats why the coloring is usually better than the lineart. That's also a reason why he didn't do my requests because his friend or boyfriend (cause he's gay) who colored for him stopped replying to him, so he just never bothered to draw it.

I commissioned an artist and they didn't get to my art for an entire century! And when it was finished, it was AWFUL! How fucked up is THAT?

No, of course I won't say who it is, because then you'll find out that my story is FAKE! A mere fabrication tailored specifically to garner sympathy from anonymous internet users!

Not my experience, but my boyfriend commissioned a suit from a maker. He made the initial payment, sent a duct tape dummy, and even got a picture of a WIP head-sculpture. The whole suit was supposed to be finished around 4 months after payment. After 4 months, the maker went completely silent. Didn't respond to emails, letters, or direct messages. She started working on other suits that were commissioned after his. A whole YEAR went by with no contact from her, and he asked for a refund. She still didn't reply. Literally took over $1000 and ran. He finally threatened to take her to small claims court, and wordlessly got a refund the next day. There's no way that she doesn't scam most of the people who give her money, even though a few people actually end up getting their suits eventually.

>>9756546
What a shame.

>>9756144
There's a different between buying porn and having something made for you.

>>9756752
Exactly, the way I see paying for commissions is the same as having a suit tailored for you. It's specifically for you, not generalized for everyone, something for you that you are paying for because it's special for you.

Ultrahand/Ross Irving

>>9757061
I know who you're talking about.
Mind posting art?

>>9756144
Commissions > Art packs
I'm not paying someone to draw whatever the fuck they feel like/would draw with or without my money.

BlueBreed. He took commissions last April on InkBunny and did a few before working only on doodles and fanart with maybe one commission here or there. He ignored all pm's and posted a journal saying that anyone who wants a refund could message him for it, even though he was still ignoring messages. He only came forward with some excuses as to why commissions weren't getting done after someone told him about an Artist Beware entry on him.

He basically said that he wanted to focus more on Patreon on getting his own website up, and that he was bored of his major in college, as if that's an excuse for keeping people's money and drawing anything but commissions. It's been over a year and he still doesn't work on his commission backlog.

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>>9756191
>>9756301
>>9756494
>>9756521
Anyway, long story short, he scammed me and didn't do some of my commissions. Now I'm probably an idiot for thinking I should commission on Steam of all things, but here ya go, his steam profile. https://steamcommunity.com/id/sensukamen

>>9756144
literally half the posts in the TF thread over the past couple of days, just people bitching about why there isn't any/much art of a niche subset of pictures and unwilling to draw it or get anyone else to draw it

>>9756760
get this sometimes when someone asks why I commission a TF pic of a largely forgotten species and I don't know what answer they want beyond 'I like the species and I like TF'

>person complains that an artist won't draw a specific body type or fetish
>waaah waaah comfort zones waah why won't you leave your comfort zone waaaaah

why don't you step out of your comfort zone and commission something else if it's so important you filthy sack of shit

>>9756494
>>9756521
Tumblr level: 1,000,000%
Also, why is it's penis a turd?

>>9757632
You mean "someone" else.
Preferably someone that doesn't lash out like a child when a potential client gives them input.

I'll meet you halfway on the fetish bit, but body types are fine as long as something isn't insane proportions like Blueberry or Hyper Muscle shit.

>>9756643
ok, who was it?

>>9751522
Honestly I don't get people who approach artists asking for something wildly different than what they usually do.

>>9758247
I doubt he'd care if I said, so it's DTWA. Lots of other people have been complaining about zero communication on their suits as well, so I would steer clear of them.

>>9750564
Your mother

>>9757404
You commissioned on Steam? Where did you even hear about this guy, I've never heard of anyone doing this lol
that is bizzare
Did you pay him in steam cash or games or ingame items or something?

>>9757404
Also his profile is private and he has a VAC ban on record lmfao

>people ITT

OK, first off, don't ridicule people who pay for porn, these selfless gentlemen are the only reason we have porn to begin with. But holy shit some of them are stupid.

How hard is it to commission people with good track records? It's your own fault for commissioning a random fag and then getting either scammed or an inferior product. How hard is it to check out the guy's art and ask around about him being on-time and trustworthy? There are thousands of drawfags on the net desperate for money, it's a buyer's market. And yet you find these hacks and scam-artists under some moldy stump.

>>9750564
I commissioned Bob Ross but then he died. 0/10 would not recommend

>>9763050
Your retarted. :)

>>9762553
I just came across him after one of my friends said they knew a guy who did commissions for SU, so I added him to see what his prices were.

I payed him in steam games and items, if his profile ever becomes unprivate you can see in his inventory a strange backwoods boomstick that I gave him for something. I also gifted him DMC 4, which is where the $25 comes from.

>>9762567
Yeah, he used LMAObox and then blamed it on his non-existent little brother.

>ctrl+f+my name
>0 results

WHEW

>>9763216
what's your name :^)

>>9758175
Apparently, to him it's a tentacle dick. Hell, it was his idea to add a lot of that stuff. I wanted it to be a futa pyrocynical, but he gave me that instead.

>>9763216
literally the exact reason i came into this thread too

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Do You Get Stressed Out Over Drawing Hahahaha Nigga Just Refund The Money Like Nigga Cough It Up Haha

>>9750931
>>9751145
>>9751327
>waiting for more than a month
what the actual fuck. What the fuck are you doing? Has it been over a month - ask them to refund the money. It's as simple as it gets. They are clearly not doing your commission. Or set a fucking deadline.

>>9763427
The way I see it, if it's over a month i'd ask for an update. If they say they have not started yet, I would ask for a refund. If they have progress, I would at least ask to see it.

Shit comes up and people get side tracked. Life happens. Its if they are still trying to make it so you feel as if youre not ripped off.

That and I myself try to get the picture done within the same week [at most] of payment.

>>9751145
>>9751284
This. Post the art and the artist so we can compare.

On the other end, I've seen some artists who don't even accept payment until the whole thing is completed, with the agreement that they're under no obligation to actually do it. So that would be pretty stress-free, but I wonder how often they get fucked.
Really for drawn art, it should be half down and half on completion, it's not like any real materials are required to draw shit.

>>9763484
if shit happens, they should inform you that they won't be able to finish it in time and offer you an alternative/refund/delayed deadline. You bought a service. It's their job to deliver it properly. Besides, if they can't finish it in a month they're either scamming you or are just stupid and took more than they can handle.

I mean, I will never get the people who make a commission and wait an entire fucking year. What is going in your heads, people?

>>9763578
>it's not like any real materials are required to draw shit.

>time is not a valuable resource

>>9750996
Jews SCAMS Everywhere
also this is trash, the off-topic paradise

>>9763614
Right, which is why it should just be half down. They're out of time, but not hundreds in materials or something like a suit maker.

>>9763596
Oh yeah definitely. I once was doing a ocmmission and I couldn't get it done in two days and I was like "OH NOOO OH MY GOD PLEASE DONT HATE ME" and they were just "dude holy shit you're fine."

I just get paranoid when I take my time, because I dont wanna lose buyers.
>>9763491
I actually used to do payment at the end.. until someones "paypal wasn't working" and they "REALLY NEEDED IT NOW". I basically said "Yeah i'll send it once you can pay".

They never paid. Now I draw up the sketch [detailed enough where its not shit], and then they pay, at least with that I can have the general idea for them.

>>9763632
The time can still be frustrating because what if you spend all this time on someone, and then they dont pay. You could have been using that time for someone who actually would pay.

>>9763649
>The time can still be frustrating because what if you spend all this time on someone, and then they dont pay. You could have been using that time for someone who actually would pay.
Perhaps trusted artists with tons of work should get full payment. If some nigga just throws up an advertisement accepting commissions for the first time, they better be happy with half down.

>>9763216
>>9763373
So do you guys suck ass at drawing or do you scam commissioners?

>>9763679
They're just baiting for replies. They don't draw, they scam you out of (You)s

>>9763679
It's more "I had one bad instance and now im being told by everyone to be avoided."

Because there's always one bad moment that becomes "OH THIS ARTIST IS SHIT"

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Who here /lucky/?

Somehow good artists consistently take my requests on /y/. This is just one example. I have a surprisingly weird and long history of people drawing nice things for me.

>>9763339
Hitler

>Paying for porn
>Not leeching off all the idiotic commissioners who throw away their money to have a quick wank

>>9763873
you must be a nice person with decent social skills who makes reasonable requests

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>9763883
You did nothing wrong, senpai

>>9763918
I pay for porn because I want niche things that would never get drawn otherwise and as much as I can fap to my fantasies unaided sometimes it's nice just seeing an artist's interpretation of a scenario

>>9763918
It's weird that people commission rule 34 instead of their own character or something, but I'm not complaining.

>>9763918
If you are a degenerate for long enough you will eventually fall in love with an unpopular waifu and get an extremely strong urge to see her drawn with a horsecock.

>>9764007
I've been a degenerate for almost a decade. My inner frugalness must be overpowering my cock because I've never had the urge to buy art in my life.

>>9763957
I commission SFW art of my characters but commission porn of other things

>>9764147
Hmm, why not see your characters getting sucked and fucked?

>>9764189
they're too pure

>>9764215
All the better to see them fucked n' sucked here and there

>>9764229
no

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Well, this isn't a story of me getting a terrible commission done or anything, this was a terrible customer I dealt with. And yes, I gave them their money back.
I was doing a livestream of commission work so I could get actual feedback from my customers on how to make the work they paid for the best out of their money. Went excellent and almost completed all the commissions.
There was this one guy though. Who was a total ass to everyone in the chat and wanted a private livestream for his work. Now, mind you I was a friend of this man who refused to do anything, talk with anyone else, and then cry to me that he was so alone. He also had a fetish I never knew of till then: quicksand fetish. Now, I wasn't much into draw fetish like artwork, but I was young and wanted money. So I took on the commission after reducing the cost by over 50% because he complained about the price. His commission? Princess Peach in quicksand. I told him I would not draw her naked, he agreed
So, back to the livestream situation.I started working on the art. Not five minutes into just sketching the head. "Lmao wtf is this shit??" I mention that I'm trying to figure out how to draw her, since I never drew her before. He goes on a mini tard rage about how ugly it looked and kept sending me references that I already ha of Princess Peach. I could not even draw a circle or a line without him nagging at how disgusting it looked. Hours go by, no progress is made. I give up for the night and say I'll try tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and he is still bitching about how shitty his work looked in comparison to the other works I finished. I mention that his was still just a sketch and barely even got started. He didn't care.

>>9764237
Post one of them and I'll be the judge

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>>9764255
I feel bad about posting this in a bad commissions thread even if it isn't about it being a bad commission because the artist is truly a star

>>9764298
Who is the artist?
Also, sorry, but I'd fuck that.

>>9764327
artist is lostbellchime
also i'd like to see you try

>>9764298
thats lovely
did you make it your wallpaper?

>>9763873
fuck
that's worth at least 80$

>>9764374
no, I could if I wanted to, though!

>>9764344
>also i'd like to see you try
Alright, but I would at least fap to that. I get the "wanting to be pure" thing, but at the same time I almost want someone to draw 34 without your permission, like it's some sort of weird e-rape. I'm a sick fuck. I'm not gonna do that though, for the record.

>>9764239
Continuing on and cutting the rest of his arc short cause otherwise it's just repeating the same bullfuckery. I gave him back his money and told him to grow a pair, grow up, and fuck off.
His reason for being such a prick was cause he had terrible experiences with commissions in the past. I saw the works. They were decent. He just didn't like them for shitty reasons like "the legs were too thick", "She doesn't have eyes like that", "I thought their art styles was different."
Allow me to ALSO add that: He never looked at my price sheet NOR my art before. Same thing with his past requests. He just threw money and expected something else in the end. Never bothered to read a thing or even look. The retard followed my art blog and everything, but never bothered to look at a single thing.

>>9750996
> believing that they should get what they want for free
That's /v/, not /pol/.

>>9764485
there's enough porn out there without me using my own characters for it

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>>9763873
right here, got this request if i remember on /bant/ by one of the artists, which then i proceeded to thank a lot from steam, he's a pretty cool guy!

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15$ For this ych

>>9763679
i do pretty okay now but when i started taking comms for the first time i did not have very good professionalism

i'm afraid someone might still hold a grudge

>>9768640
>$15

You got what you paid for, it seems.

>>9764147
Art you that owlfucker?

corrupt corporations makes world war 3rd

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I have good experiences with artists, except for one time

>Commission a NSFW pic of a rare pairing
>Artist is pretty well known, so I hope this ship can get a little popularity bump
>Pay up, way more what I should have paid.
>Drawing is finished, nothing to complain
>Then he tells me that he won't publish it on his blog because of probable "tumblr backlash"

>>9770783
what was the pairing?

>>9771511
Piglet x Kanga

>>9771574
god damn tumblr, how the fuck is that problematic
they're both adults

>>9770783
>so I hope this ship can get a little popularity bump
>Then he tells me that he won't publish it on his blog because of probable "tumblr backlash"

That is perfectly normal behavior. The artist has all the rights to not post art/commissions when he/she thinks they will harm him/her in any way.

You

>>9750564
>commission stressed him out

Artists who say and do this only stress them out further because the client will expect something amazing because of how much time has passed.

Artists need to seriously consider each commission proposed and wonder on whether or not they can actually do it. They should never be afraid to turn it down.

>>9770245
who?

>>9764503
How were you even friends with him

If you commission the right artists, you can get the commissions on the same day! I know right, it's like magic!


Why do you retards commission scammers?

>>9775468
The same day? Never encountered that in my two dozen or so commission experiences. You must be speaking of full-time, higher prices professionals.

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>Commission artist to do OC
>Hash out the details, how buff I want him to be, how big his dick is, pose, etc.
>A week goes by
>Artist tells me they won't be able to make my character as buff as I want him to be
>Mildly disappointed but alright
>A few days go by
>PM artist, ask for a WIP or something, haven't seen anything
>Artist shows me
>Picture looks like a fucking ottermode twink
>Want a refund
>Artist bitches and moans about how I don't understand anatomy and all this bullshit
It's not like I was asking for a stupid macro muscle retard, I just wanted him to be muscular and he gives me a borderline femboy body.

>>9763484
it takes less than a week to draw most things. hell, ive seen some great artists church out grade A shit in a couple hours. really if it ever reaches a 1 month mark its suspicious unless theyve just taken in a thousand commissions at the same time like a greedy fag.

>>9763578
>I wonder how often they get fucked
should be relatively easy to make a big annoying "commission in progress piece by x, if you see this then they didnt pay" repeated over and over plastered over the top of the image like a watermark.

sure they could still just take that if theyre desperate, but i doubt itd fly on any image hosting site and anyone posting it anywhere under a profile name would be ridiculed.

This is all why whenever I open commissions, I have people send me what they'd like to have drawn first, and then I'll look through them and select the ones that I think I can draw. The last thing I want to do is have someone waiting for me to do something that I don't feel like I can do, and end up panicking and making things worse.

It's also why I hardly do commissions because man, the obligation that money brings is rough.

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>>9763873
The artists on /y/ are pretty based. Here's one of the deliveries I got.

>>9775965
>the obligation that money brings is rough
i cant imagine people stressing over this. i mean, if you lay out your gallery for them then they know what to expect when they ask you to do something for them. just draw it like anything else.

>>9776010
You'd think that. I don't know what it is, but the moment that you add in a monetary value, I just freeze the fuck up.

>>9768640
God damn, that's wretched.

>>9771644
>piglet
>adult

>>9768640
I'd say for 15$, you got your money's worth. Unless the artist can actually do better and just didn't give enough of a shit. Some people, paradoxically, price their art low, but then decide that they aren't going to really try for so little money and deliver sub-par work — like, WTF nigger? Just put up your prices then!

>>9776224
It's a stuffed animal. Pooh or Tiger aren't the size of full grown males of their respective species either. You'd have to be a triple layered autist to get offended by Piglet 34: imaginary, animal, toy.

>>9776224
Piglet isn't a child. Roo is.

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>>9774693
Because I was once easily pushed around, too spineless, and was desparate to have friends.

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>>9768640
What in the flying fuck is that monstrosity?

>>9776687
>once
>avatarfagging on /trash/
How believable.

>>9775855
Can we see the ottermode wip?

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>>9777017

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>>9774250
They also have to consider the client attaches to them because of what they've seen so far. They don't necessarily care about what their potential could be.

Artists just should worry about staying present and be mindful that production sketches often show if something's on the right track.

Ideal workflow should be
pose gestures/test poses > roughs showing fairly coherent details > close-to-final/final > possible finishing touches if needed.

Giving the client a hint of what things might look like is enough insight for the client to weigh in on what works or what doesn't work. It's also a part of communication on both the artist and client's part when they have an idea of what's in store and it helps flesh out the details of the picture better.

Some artists don't realize how much a difference the sketch phase of the picture makes on a piece. It's not that the artist doesn't have good insight, it's just that the client can also consult how a piece could better suit their aesthetic once they have a primitive visual.

>>9750564
ChibiJenHen. Takes shittons of commissions, puts out two or three, then announces she's taking more commissions. Hee backlog has got to be as long as my arm.

>>9757061
Why the fuck would you pay for garbage?

>>9763596
This. I don't understand why artists are magically immune from having a semblance of professionalism. That being said, commissioners don't have the right to be dicks either. The standard ices always held is:

>Commissioner's responsibilities
-Be tactful and polite
-Always provide references and/or clear descriptions
-Adhere to an artist's terms and will-not-draw lines
-Show a reasonable amount of patience for unforseen circumstances
-Be timely with payment

>Artist's responsibilities
-Set clear terms of what can and cannot be requested
-Have a clear cost breakdown of services
-Provide a time estimate on when the project should be completed by, taking into account schedule and backlog
-Promptly communicate with the commissioner to let them know of any delays

There are of course additional steps both parties could take but this should be at least the bare minimum of guidelines a commission purchase should adhere to.

>>9750564
>commissioned
king-cheetah fug with ma' porns
I fug with the lil' prick
>accounts
>reputation
>shame
now is called trollie trollenberg well, what is left
no one fugs with the little redhead girl, NO ONE

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>>9763873
I'd been sitting on an idea for ages and decided to pop it in the /trash/ drawthread on a whim. Got filled within a day and couldn't be happier.

>>9775468
At the time, I was new to commissioning art and the people I commissioned seemed well-known and regularly purchased from. I know better now and do research on how they treat customers.

>>9775875
This. I've commissioned pro comic artists before and once they got to mine they knocked it out same-day.

>>9750564
Jace.......

300 dollerydoos 14 years ago....still waiting

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>>9780094
>14 years
>300
kill him

>>9775855
show us please

>>9770783
oh was that apis by any chance

>>9780167
I fucking wish

for 7 of those years I kept every email....and each one of them was an excuse

>>9780094
You got robbed anon

>>9786241
Give us one of them!

>>9780094
>14 fucking years ago
I have to hear this story

>>9756760
similarly I just steal all my clothes that aren't custom fitted

>>9768640
jesus, did ringtail get steamrollered or some shit?

>>9780094
jesus christ, anon. I want to feel sorry for you, but I can't. It's all your fault for being so gullible to get scammed so hard. Demand for refund or sue.

I have a terrible habit to procrastinate to no end and sometimes even forget people commssioned me but I never take money in advance.

Are there any artists that deliver really on time and are actually good?

>>9792836
Plenty, depends on your definition of "good".

>>9750564
easy question
SIMBRO faggots

>>9792836
Bullet43
Damnlassotool
Hyoumaru
Sandopoliszone
SkaJrZombie
Techworks
EpicTones

just about all the predominately gay artists when it's anything female even if they can draw it for themselves fine or their samples or art trades look good it always feels like their brain turns off and they crap something out, I usually comission $150-300 so it hurt too much when it happened.

Me, I'm a very bad artist to commission, it's why I stopped.
I made the mistake of taking on commissions when I wasn't ready. I'd constantly take on more than I could handle, had trouble with deadlines, etc.
The nail in the coffin was when I decided to stupidly trust a person with an infamously bad rep for scamming, but we had become friends, and I had done free stuff for them before, so why not. They wanted 4 full detailed +background and Alternate versions (penetration, cum/no cum, alternate Character colors, etc)
I was already backed up but they said they didn't mind waiting, so I took them on. Get 3 out of 4 done, plus their respective alternate versions, and I told them the last one is going to take a bit longer than the others because shit was piling up elsewhere "that's fine, no worries :3 message me when you start on it"
Go on a month long hiatus to catch up. Come back and find my inbox full of them spam messaging me, they got their friends to message me on the other websites I was on, and my email was full of their rage.
Check my PayPal, they took their $200 back, leaving me $180 in the red, and blocked me. They still posted my art plus the incomplete sketches even though that's against my policy. After I refilled my PayPal I gave everyone else on my queue a refund and shut down my accounts.
I'm sorry /trash/ don't be like me

>>9776021
This is a big reason I never do commissions. Trying to figure out what $10, $25, $50 looks like not only by your own standard but someone else's, and trying to deliver something that's consistent with those standards so the commissioner doesn't feel like they wasted their money, is a lot more stressful than just drawing requests or personal art for the hell of it.

>>9794700

honestly people can accuse artists of Judaism all they want but this is the innocent appeal of YCH auctions, you draw what you want to and they get their oc in

the only actual problem with YCHs is the bidders going nuts

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>be artist
>open commissions after a year or something of being away
>people only commission BDSM master slave shit.
the fuck happened to this community?

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>>9794368
Jesus.

You're not terrible just because a few assheads abused the system. Some people just can't wait that badly and powertrip like a mug. The damage is already done so I can only imagine how shitty that much feel like

I hope you know that even we can acknowledge how bad requesters and other commissioners can be too. We might have grievances about artists time to time, but it doesn't mean we're blind to injustices towards your end or other artists like you who've been screwed enough to make a case for an "Artists Beware" report.

>>9794700
Here's what you do, try figuring the value of small purchases you COULD make to sweeten the deal. Could be DLC on Steam, could be a meal deal from a pizza place, could be a modest pair of shoes or even your monthly share/cost of your phone or internet bill. Attach the monetary value of that give or take some bucks extra for the price of your drawing.

There's your arbitrary price point. The point is giving yourself incentive, you don't have to make these purchases off hand, it's just something to say "hey, I have options"

>>9795286
>i'm rich
>I don't need your filthy money

>>9795873
ever heard of "I have a real job"?

>>9795949
It's not unheard of, but there's no such thing as having too much money if you're working or middle class.

Are free requests a good way to start a gallery? Art from drawthreads?

>>9796225
I'd say so, fanart doesn't hurt either

>>9796225
do not ask to kikes, they steal money.

>>9796894
???

>>9796225
Any art you feel showcases your skills. Be advised that whatever will be in your gallery when you start taking commissions is what people will expect and will commission. So don't stuff it with a fetish you don't like just because you think the drawings came out well because you can get stuck doing that shit forever.

>>9796225
That's how I started, then I just started drawing my own stuff.
I just go in there to see if there's characters or situations I like since the actual requests aren't stuff I would like to draw or post on my account.
Even if I do follow the request I don't post the delivery, a lot of drawfags don't, the threads are total shit.

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>>9794934
>the only actual problem with YCHs is the bidders going nuts
I'd say the artists reusing the same YCH template over and over again is also a problem.

>>9798864
Are there really a lot of drawfags that don't post their deliveries on the thread?

>>9799710
yeah. Best example I can think of is PQ, who actually had a WIP of that bi-threesome of Twilight, her brother, and some other male pony. He never shared it on /trash/ drawthread despite had the drawing for weeks.

>>9799710
Everyone already knows this, which is probably why lots of people stopped thinking of things when you find your main scenario or character perverted with boring overproduced garbage, it was a free idea lunch to them so no one gives, only take now.

>>9798864
>>9799761
but why would they do that?
if you take your time to do someone's request why wouldn't you show it to or?

>>9799755
I wouldn't usually post a WIP as a delivery either.

>>9799761
Everyone knows this? I must really be out of the loop. Would be more useful to just advertise for ideas on a furry's journal.

>>9799885
I thought of that same question. Why not deliver it to make the requester happy?

>>9799953
>I thought of that same question. Why not deliver it to make the requester happy?
They want to hatchet it up to insert their own autistic fixations or characters to appeal to their own audience, so it's no wonder requesters mirrored it back at them. Hell, tons of other requesters took elements of my stuff up themselves to the point I didn't even want to turn my brain on and just regurgitated the same selfish shit and expected nothing. Welcome to drawthread decay.

Tons of big names use the thread and have hatcheted my requests to slap dicks on the women or dwell on assholes or the most egregious... lock stuff behind paywalls. Stuff so specific that it is impossible to have originated in any other place than my request in a drawthread. Sometimes both parties win though but I got sick to shit of feeding ideas to some of the very people I hate.

>>9800254
there was always a large amount of autistically specific requests, but it's like 75% of the thread now, all the same repeated shit because the only thing left is autism

requesters drive away new artists by demanding commission quality work, and old artists by being insufferable greedy fucks

i guarantee if like, five or so of these spergs got banned the quality of the threads would leap exponentially

>>9800615
Most request aren't demanding commission quality work. They are just happy to get anything which is what the artists often give them, half finished sketches and lineart. Also artists would rather draw for those spergs that demand commission level requests just to see the other spergs in the thread lose their shit that they got something of quality.

>>9800615
I honestly can't blame requesters for not giving a shit considering the drawfags themselves are worse in fixation to the point they draw 1 or 2 things with few exceptions, they are overly specialized now. The end product has dropped in quality to the point it isn't worth consuming even if "free", so I don't blame people for not trying on that note either.

Very few of the things make it past 7 upboats on aggregators like e621, who's going to request "good" things for that? No one. We pass by stuff like that on FA every day by the truckload... that's why the only group that inhabits the drawthread is clearly on the spectrum or has resigned themselves and treat it as the worlds shittiest lottery for a tiny chance at getting something (reposting a selfish fixation takes no effort, I don't blame em').

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Threw down $500 to a friend so he could commission another friend for a fursuit head that never came to fruition. I think it did get made sometime around a year later but the maker stuffed it with weed so it couldn't be mailed and had to be transported and picked up at a furry convention which never happened IIRC. Then he changed his fursona later anyway so it was all for naught.

Worst part is I don't even know the creator's name and since I gave the money to a pal I couldn't get a refund. I spent like a goddamn half a month's wages on that thing at minimum wage, I'm a little miffed.

>>9800615
>i guarantee if like, five or so of these spergs got banned the quality of the threads would leap exponentially
Yeah, I would post or take more requests but honestly some of the people in there are insufferable and ruin it for everyone. You're also right about the greedy part

>>9800905
There's at least one or two vocal autists that freak the fuck out about anything touching on normal or otherwise vanilla content, because they feel everything should be piles and piles of fetishes nobody likes. I'm sure this hasn't helped, and it's this relatively normal content that ends up with more people liking it and higher scores.

Somewhere along the way we forgot that we're masturbating to humanized animals in the first place.

>>9802620
Yup, the type of faggots that say shit like
>wanting normal stuff
>on /trash/
those degenerates ruined the threads, maybe even this board in general

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I'm an artist and i find interesting to work on all kind of crap my clients ask me to do, it's both a good challenge and a way to show that you are versatile to new potential clients.
The only time i took more than two months to finish something was because i got a part time job and it was a 15 pictures raffle prize pack

>>9775855
look at >>9756200

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>>9794368
you should of spent the money on steam or something so scammer cant do shit
>Money gets refunded
>Steam says that my money was fake or fraud and my account goes to lock down
>contact steam
>they tell me to go to paypal.
>paypal resolves my issue with steam
>scammer lost his money
not sure if this works 100% of the time but i did not have to pay back that 220 aud

You

Nobody

>>9799707
Yeah, that feels really cheap. Really devalues the art.

>>9813711
For actual full images it sucks but a lot of people buy template-based user icons and shit.

>>9813734
I can understand Icons and also some novelty stuff, like if the artist is doing a series of something unusual, but the pic in the post I quoted is utter cancer. I really hope no-one paid too much of those recolors.

>>9792836
Depends on your kink

>>9768640
Do people not look at an artists previous work to see if they would even like it? You had to have known it wouldnt have been great.

>>9792836
Rarely

>>9779219
Yep. I made this mistake too. Thought she was okay but then heard otherwise. She opens her commissions again almost every god damn day, despite how she says she's closing. She picks and chooses which she does. I've seen her get some done in a day, some in years. I have a friend who's been waiting about 3 years. You'd think since she's a comic artist she'd be good at getting things done on a deadline, but nope. She can churn out multiple drawings and animations a day, but no commissions. I'm giving her this month before I force a refund over Paypal.

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>>9763873
an anon drew this for me

>>9800977
>fursuit head

You deserved it.

>>9814276
Maybe sometimes they really really like that artists style more than any other , and can't replicate the same feeling with their own art?

>>9814276
Though seeing what you replied to, previous post may not work here.....was referring more to asking an artist to make something they don't normally do.

>>9815301
I know, I know. A friend wanted it and I couldn't say no to getting my pal something nice with my new job even though we stopped talking not terribly long after. I don't have good luck with these things.

>>9814941
>>9763873
gross and gay

>>9751522
>making excuses for shitty 'artists'
If you can't do a wide range of basic shit or life drawings competently, you aren't an artist, you're a doodler.

>>9799707

holy fuck thats some k-mart type of commission right there. id never pay for someone to use premade templates of YCH shit when all they have to do is change colors and maybe add a few lines to change it up... cheap as fuck

>>9815533

you need to find better friends