/bcb/ - bittersweet candy bowel
Aggressive Imouto Edition
(10 minutes later)
What happened to the /trash/ bcb discord server?
>>9679925
suitcase reported us and shut us down
>>9681515
Reported for what? Cat porn?
Suitcase's pettiness knows no bounds.
>>9681540
we dont know for what
there is new server in the making
this time with fuck you suitcase technology to prevent suitcase fucking us
>>9681540
Probably related to RazorWolfie sharing his underage erection with the chat last night. Shit was weird, I reported it
Dog-rabbit girl needs more lewds
Current lewds: 0
>>9681725
damn I thought it'd be shut down once I saw a kid doing fucked up rape ERP in a public channel
>>9681743
Mina
And yeah no lewds I've seen
>>9682965
No one cares autist
Enjoy swanky colored version of the best fanart
Reminder to request more of the forgotten qt's
>>9684146
>Someone's posting my colour
I almost forgot what pride feels like.
>>9685442
+1 for bell cat
>>9686068
>not wanting nigger ginger cat
>>9687148
Either her or Larken.
Red hair is meh.
>>9687255
What the actual fuck is this
>>9687148
>nigger ginger
Wot
>>9687541
Something very old off the booru.
>>9685442
I hear yah, man
>>9679581
>Implying Mike has balls to rape his sister
>Not Haley raping Mike
[Dab] BCB needs more incest material [/Dab]
>>9690291
make it yourself then
>>9685442
roxy and courtney already have lewds. the other 3 are unnamed and therefore trash
Newby writefag here
Post interesting smut fic ideas
>>9694637
Daisy gets drunk at her birthday party and rapes Mike.
>>9694637
Bickering at school, Paulo accuses Sue of being a dead fuck just as a way to insult her. Incensed to prove herself better than him she jumps on his dick.
>>9694637
Make it real. Become LEGEND.
>>9698828
this
bamp
writefag better have my smut in the morning or I'm gonna make December look like a fuckin joke
>>9701226
Bump
>>9692238
the main characters suck, i'd rather get lewds from the unnamed ones
>>9698828
>>9699156
>>9701226
>>9703148
>>9704004
Alright then, here we go. A little rough around the edges because I wanted to do this as a quick thing. It's not edited or proofread much cuz I've got other shit to do today.
Enjoy
https://pastebin.com/Dap553Zn
>>9697141
Daisy's a pushover.
>>9704962
Meh
>>9679581
This is so hot. Need more of this shit.
love triangles the comic
>>9707315
While there are love triangles (Mikeâ–²Lucyâ–²Paulo, Daisyâ–²Abbeyâ–²Augustus, etc.) it actually doesn't really make use of them AS triangles. There's virtually zero antagonism between "love rivals" and no drama over the peak of the triangle being unable to decide. Not harping on these cliches is one of the (negative) good things about this comic. If only it was better at doing its own thing.
Is the new discord up yet?
>>9708737
can you faggots fuck off?
>>9709130
>>9708352
>Daisyâ–²Abbey
That child's dead, Anon.
>>9709288
>But you eat ice cream everyday.jpg
Why LucyxMike is so popular ?
>>9709407
>>9709407
Daisy needs somebody who's got condoms as their edc.
>>9709443
like Paulo
>>9709584
>PauloxDaisy
>>9708737
PM one of the old discord-dwellers you know, or remember the name of, to get an invite.
>>9709584
He's an insatiable cunt. He deserves no one.
>>9710021
Paulo is a GOOD BOY
>>9710071
*insecure lust demon
>>9710021
he deserves to DP Sandy with David while mike cries in a corner
>>9710162
All he needs is love.
>>9710223
Polly is love
Polly is life.
>>9710223
Reminder she only said those things to piss her brother off because she knows he hates Paulo.
>>9710300
Lies. Polly is the future.
>>9710328
Pamaya is the good future
>>9710392
Amaya is the future.
>>9710402
>ywn have a threeway with the Amaya twins
>>9709989
I don't remember the number after anyone's name and it seems I need it.
>>9710328
>there will actually be not a single stable relationship in the entire comic
>it's all just about blue-balling the audience
>Ver is the mistress
>we are the bitches
>>9710452
what was your name? Maybe someone could invite you
>>9710809
Added. You can delet this now
>>9710839
>delet this
Extra sneaky.
>>9712998
Sandra told him she thinks Lucy is bad influence/she doesn't like her.
Inside Michaels brain:
>Lucy around = Sandy sad
>don't want Sandy sad
>Lucy not supposed to be there anymore
>Lucy bad
That's about it.
bup
nigger
Meow
Alright, which one of you cringe kids made this?
>>9722090
lol
>>9722090
That better be ironically ironic
>>9722090
oh my god
Post new page please
>>9728023
OK, I guess.
>>9728125
so we need a new smut pic of lucy tittyfucng and sucking a big dick with that face
>>9728125
>That suck
>>9728125
And here I am sat wondering what flavor that ice cream is.
Strawberry, Banana, and.... smurf? Blueberry.
>>9729165
It's water-ice, hence the "crunch".
>>9729203
Okay, water ice.
The question still remains tho.
>>9729237
Red might be cherry.
>>9729254
I'd "crunch" Lucys cherry.
>>9729621
we all would anon, we all would
>>9729165
It's Romania-flavoured.
It tastes like cheap tobacco and stolen copper
>>9728125
>that little girl on the left
>>9681120
what's his name again
>>9698828
>>9704962
>a loud fart ripping through the room as her body convulsed like never before.
BRAAAAPPPPPP
>>9733819
>epileptic gerbil is drawing for us
I thought that motherfucker was dead
>>9735111
yeah man, its almost like he doesnt have a ...tumblr or anything
>>9733819
I still think Jasmine would make a great cock-addicted slut.
>>9681725
And you wonder why people avoid Discord like the plague?
>>9737153
>Jasmine biting her lip while trying to discreetly check out guy's packages.
Yes please
>>9737153
Is this comic still going? How long can an adult live their self-loathing through a stupid teen drama story?
>>9740557
As long as her husband can avoid doing honest labor, or even avoid being the breadwinner.
>>9741233
She makes a living wage with this shit?
>>9741233
Also
>implying making money off a comic is not "honest labor"
>implying the dude has to be the breadwinner
Are you from the 50s or some shit?
>>9741291
When that's the only logical explanation for why it's turned to shit, complete with two virtue signalling "Tumblr plz give Patreonbux" characters introduced so fucking late, another character suddenly "WTF I like dicks now" even without any plot or characterwise semblance of such, art that's been copying both the worst stylistic cues of weebshit and hammy tropes ever since it went downward spiral, and the general plotline that seems to be crashing and burning imminent.
>>9741407
Woah, which character started liking dicks? I haven't been keeping up.
>>9741433
Paulo
https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c87/p1.html
>>9741931
Oh... That was predictable as fuck, bruh. You're kind of a tool for being surprised by this.
I was hoping you'd say it's Jasmine or that lesbian one. :(
>>9741954
>you're kind of a tool
Ey fuck you man I'm not >>9741407
I kind of saw it coming, too, though it's been a while since I first binged the comic so I'm not sure exactly what caught me on. My gripe with it personally is that Polo being gay for dick tends to be confined to a chapter where that's the focus and then just kind of ignored.
>>9742048
That's too cute looking for Mike.
>>9742265
Did you not read Local Area? Mike is canonically kawaii.
>>9742296
I did not, and Mike is a fool.
>>9741954
>That was predictable as fuck, bruh. You're kind of a tool for being surprised by this.
Paulo is the only character with a sex drive and shown to be exclusively attracted to girls and it's predictable as fuck that he suddenly wants to bang Mike's butthole?
>>9742462
Yes. There's a lot of subtext pointing towards Paulo having a crush on Mike.
>>9742462
He likes fucking and doesn't care if he's slipping it to a guy or a gal.
>>9742462
Maybe you were just too focused on him being your lady killer frat boy bro hero to notice.
>>9742511
Post proof.
>>9742531
>Maybe you were just too focused on him being your lady killer frat boy bro hero to notice.
I want suit to go.
>>9742531
Why haven't Toby yet mowed down bitchy McButchcat and biggest faggot in a stolen semi truck while trying to evade authorities?
>>9742576
Murder doesn't exist in kawaii comics.
>>9742462
Taeshi takes the "homosex in denial" trope and just ruins it because "progressive"
>>9742540
Here is an excerpt from a very old strip back when the art was less polished.
>>9742587
Can a character be gay without you angry alt-right faglords labeling it as performance progressivism? Do you have to ruin absolutely everything that's not straight white people being straight and white together just because you don't understand why they would be anything but straight and white? Fucking sad cunts.
>>9742586
Explain assmad cats mother then.
I didn't ask for a graphic depiction of their humongous heads being crushed like overripe watermelons by the wheels of the truck while their bodies are reduced to minced meat, just that the mistakes are dealt with.
>>9742601
My first thought was that I want tumblr to go...
But then you went too far. 9/10 regardless just pull back a bit next time.
>>9742616
She did survive the lamp, the doc killed her during/after surgery.
>>9742632
yes anon, all opinions you disagree with are bait. everyone agrees with you deep down. if they didn't that would be terrifying and wrong
>>9742648
You can't put all that bait back in the can, Anon.
Just let things cool off and try again later.
>>9742637
And yet the father most likely got her death legally pinned on him.
That doctor successfully committed the perfect crime.
>>9742679
I'm not fucking trolling you. You're the one trolling me because the tendency with people like you to always accuse everyone who disagrees with you of baiting is so fucking maddening. Pull your head out of your ass. People can disagree with you. Jesus fuck I'm so sick of this fucking indoctrination facility imageboard. I can't even get people to agree that I disagree with them anymore because they're so far up their asses that they can't even fathom that someone could genuinely disagree with them anymore. You're fucking brainwashed. Get brain cancer.
>>9742717
>>9742732
>Trolling someone by accusing them of trolling
Congrats on being retarded.
>>9742772
More like the opinion was so ridiculous it was indistinguishable from trolling.
>>9742693
His dad was a cunt. Might even be based on that old High Expectations Japanese Dad meme.
>>9742817
And that's how you got your head up your ass. It's not ridiculous to think that Paulo being gay was organic and not just the author being progressive. You can disagree but it's not ridiculous to think so. If you think it's ridiculous, you're full of yourself and you didn't get beaten up enough as a kid to have that much confidence.
>>9742843
Remember Carson?
Yeah, Tae can't do homo without it being played for comedic relief or shilling.
Trying to do it serious, especially with a character whose personality has been so goddamn mangled by retcons since he's her favorite 'projector' has ended in the expected disaster.
>>9742843
>It's not ridiculous to think that Paulo being gay was organic
The "wot if polo was a gay" chapter came NINE YEARS after the comic started, had no lead-up (if you want me to believe he's always had a crush on Mike, post evidence), and after this little tumblrbuxplz episode was over it has had zero impact on the character. He hasn't flirted with any guys or stared at Mike's gray ass or anything. The whole thing's a bag of air.
>>9742897
It's nice that you have arguments to defend your stance but that doesn't excuse having your head so far up your ass.
>>9742907
Yeah some people don't realize they're gay until very late in their life. If they gazed in awe at guys' butts, it would be obvious to them that they're gay, but they don't, and that's part of why.
>>9742920
That doesn't explain the inconsequential nature of these two or three chapters. If you gave someone this comic with those chapters removed they'd never suspect anything was missing.
>>9742972
It's a very cute chapter.
This whole comic is a feelgood piece of shit written whimsically by an adult couple stuck in their middle school years. Lots of chapters are inconsequential tearjerkers and fan service. You just get exceptionally suspicious the moment there's a faggot involved because you're habituated to think it's an evil SJW conspiracy by the jew media powerhouse to brainwash you or some stupid shit like that.
>>9743017
>It's a very cute chapter.
It's an awkward and clumsy chapter.
This comic is bad at developing characters or plots and sticking to it but fluff pieces like "Daisy and Abbey don't have sex" or "Who the hell is Stacy?" aren't the same thing as a chapter where a character starts crying and essentially says "My character is developing now!" only for none of it to matter in the least.
>You just get exceptionally suspicious the moment there's a faggot involved because you're habituated to think it's an evil SJW conspiracy by the jew media powerhouse to brainwash you or some stupid shit like that.
That's because SJW are obsessed with gays, although they seem to be switching over to Muslims these days.
>>9743096
>This comic is bad at developing characters or plots and sticking to it but fluff pieces like "Daisy and Abbey don't have sex" or "Who the hell is Stacy?" aren't the same thing as a chapter where a character starts crying and essentially says "My character is developing now!" only for none of it to matter in the least.
Why are you even fucking reading it?
>That's because SJW are obsessed with gays, although they seem to be switching over to Muslims these days.
In your crazy little head, yes.
>>9743122
>Why are you even fucking reading it?
There used to be some halfway decent stuff sometimes (or maybe I just saw possibilities that were never exploited) but with how bad the newest chapters are I'm sure I would have dropped it if there wasn't fun shitposting to be had.
TD:DR
Vero is using gaylord characters or "I might like dick" as a cop out on developing her characters personalities as a whole and instead resorts to have them defined by vague traits that brings in cash from social media suckers.
The irritating thing is that Paulo and Mike have a scene where they finally act like friends (they supposedly have been for like eight years) but it's only because Paulo maybe wants to fuck him. This series is obsessed with romance to the exclusion of everything else.
>>9743307
Haven't you ever wanted to fuck one of your friends? It's distracting.
>>9743519
When that's the only interaction except bully, then it seems like she's trapped in /a/
>>9743519
You gay or what
I want to see this comic but with Sue and Paulo.
I guess Tess and Paulo would make more sense but it's funnier if it's Sue.
>>9743760
No but I wanted to fuck my female friends before and it was hard to get it out of my head.
>>9743776
>my female friends
>>9743801
what?
>>9743859
I'm having a hard time believing they
a: exist
b: were born female
>>9743956
That's nice.
>>9742588
goddamit anon
I'd like a "what they look like in 30 years" thing.
>>9744695
bci
>>9745125
>paying Vero or bagboy
>>9745125
>>9745150
>paying for bci
Meow
>/co/ thread deleted
was it mods being faggots or were faggots porn posting again
>>9751431
>deleted
>implying it didn't just never hit bump limit like the past dozen threads have
>>9751639
He's right. I explicitly saw "pruned or deleted" when I tried to refresh the thread.
>>9751431
At least we can have a fresh thread for the page tomorrow.
>>9751431
It was Deffo 404'd instead of hitting a limit.
Meow
Bark
Arf
*update*
>>9728125
>>9759280
Noice.
>>9759238
>>9759280
BARKED.com
>>9760263
i thought we agreed it was BONED.com
>>9760579
Rottweiler
>>9760579
Pitbull
>>9760528
This
>>9760579
>>9761369
God those are ugly.
>>9760580
this
>>9760882
dubs confirm
>>9759280
Very nice
>>9761369
crist!!
>>9759280
Godly work Anon.
>/co/ thread didnt even break 200 replies
fucking kek
>>9742588
>tfw i made a beautiful drawing for /bcb/ and only one senpai noticed it.
>>9767786
The threads'll probably pick back up once something actually happens. I guess if you plan to sell the comic in the volume format then having this many pages dedicated to Paulo and Lucy fucking about isn't so bad, but with this three page per week drip feeding going on I think we get the point by now. I really wish I had the willpower to just avoid anything bcb related for a few months but I haven't really got anything else going on.
>>9769446
Some things are just too beautiful for words, anon.
>>9767786
Why doesn't soupy just give up and make it a comic about everybody fucking already? It's very obviously what everyone wants, ever. No exception.
>>9742588
i liked BCB more before the art degraded into animu crap.
Meow
>>9759280
Ok that's pretty damn awesome.
Potato camera drawfag here, taking a request.
>>9774508
Requesting Molly making a fellatio gesture to Paulo asking her to pretend she is shaking a salt shaker to her moist mouth.
from Bittersweet candy Bowl
>>9774525
I like it, on the way.
>>9774525
This one's dedicated to the colorfag that showed me that mobile app for coloring lineart.
Can you draw Paulo running from gay thoughts
>>9774508
Jasmine getting impregnated and complaining about not only having pre-marital sex but having a child out of wedlock.
Could be any male or a floating dick, in any position you prefer. I just want to see her eggs get fertilized and her saying the dialogue with embarrassment or shame.
>>9774508
Draw Justin kicking David's ass
>>9774508
Draw Aaron
>>9775108
Like Tae and the Strayan trying to run away from furfag accusations by increasing heads
>>9778689
Oh my god this is perfect
>>>9778793
>Or some Jasmine rape
why "or". JasminexAlejandro ftw
>>9679581
why would they write that on the pillow?
>>9778793
I will definitely be fulfilling that request both in honor of our new drawfag >>9778689
keeping the Mike cuckoldry meme dream alive, and because that is well and truly my fetish. Have a thighjob Jasmine to satisfy your needs in the mean time.
>>9778858
cute art
"Th-this does not count, right??"
Do you think she would get pregnant just to keep you ?
>>9778689
Fucking Christ, this is wrong for all the right reasons and right for all the wrong reasons!
>>9779699
She better not, it'd ruin her body.
>>9779699
the bitch has an obvious kink for unprotected sex, she'd get pregnant regardless of wanting to keep anyone
>>9779699
That's Daisy's department.
>>9779816
This is also my fetish.
>>9778689
good shit. i can retire now.
this is you new god. worship properly
>>9775146
>>9778832
Girls letting themselves get pregnant by accident is absolutely positively my fetish, especially good Christian girls who will willingly choose to bare the burden of their mistake / miracle.
>>9782224
Nice.
I have a Jasmine fetish. I kinda want her to becomes a total dickslut after she loses her virginity. But that's almost as good.
>>9782224
Thanks a lot for doing my request! I kind of figured you'd only do one after I posted it, as I was a little tired and eager to notice you'd do "a request."
Still, very nice of you and appreciated. Especially for Jasmine Lewds~
>>9782707
Thank SandyxTyrone drawfag, it was going to be just one request till I saw new original content. :D
>>9782224
added alej fur color and some (crappy) jasmine lashes
not exactly an ace job but i did what i could for it
>>9778689
Oh my god I fucking love you
>>9778689
can someone explain this fetish to me? I understand if you're fantasizing from the bull's perspective, but why would you want to be a cuck? Why would you fantasize about a situation where you're constantly blueballed and have the bad end of the deal? Isn't that just how real life already?
>>9787213
this video explains it accurately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZ56AbGKtE
>>9787291
This really just raises many many more questions.
>>9787419
then stop being a communist faggot
>>9787498
How am I being a communist faggot?
>>9782454
jasmine is pretty great
>>9788900
>>9788900
>jesus was black
Looks like the fans on the facebook page are getting too much freedom for Suit's tastes
Will they purge the facebook comment section like they did with the one on the site?
>>9791690
Probably, Suit and Taeshi are pretty autistic when it comes to any kind of descent. Don't call them furries, Don't question their hamfist political views, don't critique their shitty work. Unless you fit into a very niche box they ain't gonna give you the time of day, even if you throw money at them.
Them shitting on their fans is nothing new, but Taeshi is literally mentally ill and Bagboy does nothing but enable her.
>>9791787
It wasn't always like that, though. Taeshi used to be able to accept criticism
>>9791858
Emphasis on past tense.
She's the breadwinner, so ofcourse she's gonna be sheltered by her husband like she's a Goose that lays golden eggs.
>>9787213
Our enjoyment of this is non sexual, we just want Mike to suffer and him getting cucked is the best way to do it.
Mike was right...but he's also a twat so his suffering is pretty great.
>>9793449
Is she really the breadwinner though?
Tae just draws this shit.
The bag is the one who handles all the publishing, merchandise, bonus content memberships and everything else that brings in the dough.
>>9794664
Can't do that without a comic to shill.
new page, faggots
>>9794903
cool, a whole another page of FUCKING NOTHING happening
its like christmas up in this bitch
>>9794664
Would be nothing without her cranking out apperantly acceptable crap at a regular interval.
He just maximizes shilling, nothing else, so if anything then he's got the Jew job.
>>9794903
Fucking nothing again
>>9794903
>public seats
>nobody uses pants
>>9778689
v2.0 if anyone needs it
>>9796038
Most characters wear clothes, actually. Only the really old ones are habitually naked.
>>9796077
Thank you based drawfag!
>>9796077
nice
tyrone is a good meme
>>9798125
VERY nice
>>9798125
>>9798125
You know what, my enjoyment of this is sexual.
>>9798125
EG does it again the madman
Right I'll take another request before the thread goes. (potato guy)
>>9798496
Guy with the Jasmine impreg request from earlier. Striking the iron while it's hot.
You like impreg, and I like impreg, and what's a better idea than mixing the Tyrone meme with it?
Probably more Jasmine but "blah-blah" variety is the spice of life.
After all, can't get anymore cuck than your girlfriend not even carrying your child.
>>9798496
Alright. How about this:
* Just before the climax of December, Lucy does whatever it takes to keep Mike happy. _whatever it takes_
* Agent manager man from the play chapter goes to Sue instead of Lucy because he liked her play BUT she needs to do something in return first
* At Daisy's birthday party, Rachel teaches the girls how to be true sluts
* Augustus fucks Daisy her cheerleader outfit after https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c85/p6.html
* Melanie (Alej's old gf) gets shown who's boss
* Author guy from the con chapter shows Daisy some "special scene" behind closed doors
* Paulo and Sue relieving the sexual tension between them by some healthy hatefucking
Holy shit the thread lasted a week
>all that white knighting ruining that already shit thread
namefags are fucking cancer
>>9799475
I knew some of the posts were normie shit, but that just cements it.
Did assblasted Australian nuke even their social media outlets due to his gross incompetence at moderation without being a biased asshole? Because I sincerely hope something like that is the reason behind the sudden influx of fresh meat and not something else.
What do you guys think would happen if Bitter Sweet Candy Bowl had a crossover with Total Drama Island and How would a episode play out? Who would be the 22 contestants? And who would likely win?
>>9800457
you already asked this in the other thread
I ignored your requests and decided to be the first to draw Sandy x Tyrone smut.
>>9800457
Gtfo normie.
Gas the normies
>>9802520
based
>>9805047
>character who is only into girls must be gay because men with a sex drive are overcompensating
I didn't say that. Someone's projecting their insecurities here.
>>9805047
>came here for porn
>got tumblr instead
fine, geez
>>9806314
soundgasm
>>9800457
I know this makes me a faggot, but I gotta ask: why do you like this comic? I tried reading it a few years ago, and got halfway through (or halfway through for the time) and depressed over how bad things kept getting for the characters.
Does it get better? Is it worth another try?
>>9806314
>all those buttons on the mixer console
>only 4 faders
>mfw
good shit tho famalam
>>9802520
you're the gift that keeps on giving, potatoe.
Since you guys are at it with tyrone, why not throw in some SPH/size comparing/size shaming into the mix?
or sandy tricking mike into sending her dick pics, so (without him knowing) she and her friends can make fun of his little dick?
>>9808635
because Tyrone exists purely to piss off Mikecucks
>>9808909
why not go even further beyond then.
>>9809262
because its only funny as a joke
>>9809373
Well thats true, can't argue with that.
>>9809642
thats why we call them betterthreads
>>9798496
A cavernous Daisy trying to fill the empty void in her she wish she could fill with Mike's dick.
Either with a combination of sweets and dildos, or by offering herself to one of the sports teams in the shower after cheerleading.
>>9811071
And the team reply "psh no way fatty"
>>9798496
Paulo and Augustus spitroasting Lucy
-or-
Stacy offering herself to the football team
-or-
Drunk Daisy getting knocked up at her birthday party, ruining herndrramnof becoming a model
-or-
Sandy and Mike using Lucy as a surrogate mother so Sandy's body won't get clobbered by the baby
I'm still waiting for that pic of Jazz as the Mega Milk girl that someone promised several threads ago.
>>9808635
Haley giving Mike a reacharound as he listens to Sandy getting filled by Tyrone on the phone.
>I can be your Sandy for tonight, bro
>>9813228
I want that. A lot.
#stillalive
>>9812863
>herndrramnof
dain bramage
>>9815360
Brain damage anon here, I expected autocorrect to save me. I was wrong to put my faith in it.
Should be "her dream of"
>>9812863
I like the last two options. We're hitting bump limit and I'm busy for the weekend, but I'll likely draw these. I'll pop up a new trash thread in a few days - a week.
>>9812863
The last one is just plain evil.
>>9817345
Its somewhat canon
>>9817975
We do not talk about this.
Mike needs to suffer, not Lucy. She already got her dose.
>>9818202
>he didnt see the 200 Tyrone deliveries we got in this thread alone
>>9818240
That's not suffering. He lives for this shit. He never even tried to be intimate with anyone.
>>9818240
That's his destiny as being the naive one in a LDR
Betterthread shall raise again.
who's baking?