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Star Fox thread, because there was a decent thread last night

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Star Fox thread, because there was a decent thread last night on /v/ before Cody showed up

Hard mode: No bitching about characters or other dumb shit. Try to be civil
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If anyone's kind enough to share it, this set is half off until the 3rd.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/23387828/
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qt burd
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>>9099754
>>9099764

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So, I'm considering making a Star Fox game.

I've got a few concepts rattling around, and some experience in Unity.

I don't have a story yet, but I'm thinking about having branching paths, like Star Fox 64.
Gameplay wise, I'm thinking Star Fox: Assault, with a jetpack for on-foot segments, and less on-foot segments in general.

One thing I haven't decided on yet is whether the Arwing sections should be mostly on rails, or in all range mode.
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>>9100822
Star fox assault sucks though. Also if you're considering rails foot sections sin and punishment already did that pretty well.
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>Cody
Is that the same guy who shits up Paper Mario threads?
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>>9100942
The on foot sections are going to be like Dark Void.

Also, Assault was perfectly fine, with the exception of the on foot sections.
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>>9101011
I made the assault sucks comment and I am not this cody that you speak of. I played all except 1 and 2 to completion. I do like 64, guard, zero and even command a lot (command is a guilty pleasure). Assault though is pretty generic as there is just 10 short missions without any path selections and the levels themselves are quite bland and the non rails sections just have "destroy x amount of targets" as the objective. The on rails themselves are decent but have kinda sluggish controls and not as action exciting as 64 or zero. Adventures is alright but nothing great IMO.
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Star fox Guard is the best star fox game hand down. I'm actually being sincere with this comment the game actually plays great with easy to use controls and a fair difficulty scaling. Also the extra missions offer some good diversity from the main canpaign reharding game play.
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>>9101011

Notorious underage who has shit opinions, from what some anons pointed out, he's not only hated outside /v/, but he's been banned from a handful of communities for his overall faggotry.

Pic related covers everything about him

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnTLmgjXhmUMxrI32wLN4Q/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0
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>>9103728
Is he the guy that posts the shitty "Krystal is representative of the downfall of the series" bait?

It could be Fredryke Phox or however he spells his name still salty his gay starfox 2 ships will never be canon but I figure it's someone mundane
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>>9104309

It's unknown, but it could be Phred for all we know. He did get butthurt when someone called his animation shit. It could also be that one guy on miiverse who, I shit you not, gets really pissed off if you dont like Zero or 64. Added bonus if you draw Krystal there.
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>>9104675
>>9104309
My issue with Krystal isn't that she caused the downfall of the series (she didn't and blaming her is overlooking the failings of a lot of the games since 64). My true gripe with Krystal is that she is overhyped and beloved for a character that actually doesn't do much or us that memorable perspnaliry wise. In fact no one I've known actually gave me good descriptions or positive traits about her other than her appearance and some generic tropes like being a kind person or loves fox mcCloud. To clarify I don't see Krystal as a bad character but rather an extremely underdeveloped one and sadly underutilized. She will forever be known infamously as furry bait which no one here can really deny that fact about krystal.
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>>9104782

The furbait statement is hypocritical as Fox, Falco, and Wolf appeal to the gay furry crowd. To put it simple, they're gay furbait on their own right. The personality part is a load of shit too because Zero ended up revealing just how useless your team mates are both in personality and how they serve. If that wasnt enough, they're never present in half or more of the games levels, which even though Slippy isnt present you still get the boss meter anyway. Of all the three, Peppy is the worst offender of this.
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>>9104782
>which no one here can really deny that fact about krystal.
No, I think it's quite possible to deny that, because it's extremely hypocritical to think that a character is "furry bait" for simply being a female character while there's a large chunk of the fandom that goes out of their way to sexualize the rest of the cast in non-canon ways (i.e. all the gay shipping). She covers up in every post-Adventures appearance, and she's far less of a flirt than Katt is. And if you seriously can't see her as anything other than "furry bait", I'd like to ask what exactly is wrong with that? It'd pretty clear the series has been a sausage fest for far too long, and considering how anti-sexuality a lot of the gaming industry has become I can't see why female characters couldn't be attractive every now and then.

>In fact no one I've known actually gave me good descriptions or positive traits about her other than her appearance and some generic tropes like being a kind person or loves fox mcCloud.
Sounds to me like people are trying to tell you, and you willingly ignore them. Ok, then let's compare her to other characters. What are Falco's character traits apart from being a pilot and a hothead? What are Peppy's traits apart from being an old mentor who barks game controls to you? What about most of Star Wolf is defining apart from being antagonists? When you deliberately ignore character traits or reduce them to simplistic tropes, of course it'd be hard to see depth in a character.
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Regarding Krystal as a character. Between the switch from dinosaur planet to star fox adventures, they revampled krystal's appearance from her dinosaur planet look to something that artistically fits more in line with the star fox cast. Though despite that instead of the same outfit that she had in dinosaur planet they decided to give her skimpier outfit composing of a breast plate and loin cloth with underwear along with smaller things like jewlery, shoulder pads and tail rings. Her assault appearance had her in a jump suit with a boob window and command design is similar but pink and sleeveless.

Krystal to me seems to always have been intentionally by the game developers as the sex appeal of the games and though those are fair points regarding the personalities being bland for the rest of the cast at least I can say that they fit thier roles quite well for narrative purposes and can work off each other without. Krystal's main thing it looks like is being fox's love interest which could work out between the two in terms of interactions but what is there to say about Krystal's relationships and interactions with other characters? Being a telepath isn't a personality trait as for example slippy is the engineer but his personality traits are his clumbsiness and overconfidence which can get him into trouble as well as being knowledgeable in tech. I don't really know what to say about Krystal other than being concerned for fox and deflecting panther's flirting attempts.

I am not the best at making written arguments but I want to at least share some points to make you think that I am at least not a hypocrite with my previous comments.
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>>9105133
>dispairbutalsoerection.png
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>>9105798
We could always ask Krystal's daddy what her personality was supposed to be
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>>9104782
>She will forever be known infamously as furry bait which no one here can really deny that fact about krystal.

>"putting a female character in a game is ____bait"

nice bait
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>>9105133
what is this from?
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>>9105798

Krystal was simply ahead of her time, you just didnt realize it. Rather you should realize it by now considering how certain things work now in Japan. Fire Emblem did it quite well...
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>>9106416
an artist on inkbunny that does micro penis humilliation

that piece is the cover of 7 page sketch comic
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>>9106447
Those dicks are way too big.
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>>9107347
7? It's 12 pages if you include the cover (so like 11 real pages).

This is the first one. Enough interested in the thread to post the rest?
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>>9107656

Go away Phred
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>>9107665
No, please don't.
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>>9106566
more
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>>9106260
That's another thing that I wanted to mention but forgot to at the time. Before the events of adventures we know basically nothing about keystal other than she came from cerinia, it got destroyed, and she came to dinosaur planet to investigate a distress signal. I know other star fox characters don't get much backstop wither but krystal's is even less, especially for someone who is an "important character in adventures before they designated her to being trapped after the tutorial due to development problems at rare.
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>>9106273
How is that statement wrong? When you asked millenials how they got unto the furry fandom, a lot would answer that it was due to one of the 3 characters (Krystal, lola rabbit, remamon). Krystal to this day still gas a site dedicated to her called Krystal archive, despite her limited appearances. Her redesign from dinosaur planet to adventures as I said before really uped her sex appeal and her outfits in assault and command aren't that much more modest from her adventures design. You prove my point just take a look at the assault promotion art they had back in the day and several of them had Krystal in seductive poses. I had a feeling that this was done intentionally by Nintendo and at the time rare to up the "appeal" of their game towards crowds that would find Krystal attractive.
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>>9107665
Yea post it. I can't reverse search that one you posted
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>>9099303
Falco looks great when drawn in ladies clothing.

So does Leon.
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>>9104309
Krystal is unfortunately the face of Star Fox's downfall.

Which is bullshit because Miyamoto should be the face of SF's downfall.
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>>9112088
I agree. Keystal is definitely not the cause of the downfall of the series but appearing aftet the peak of the series which was 64 combined with her well known face as the more popular r34 characters and you got a very good scapegoat.
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>>9112088

The latter is the case now, thank Zero for that. In the /v/ thread, an anon mentioned as a complaint how Krystal wasnt in Zero, to which an anon said that it was a good thing that upon this being posted in response, that's what the anon meant.

Zero though was 64 for the fourth time, it benefitted a lot by showing that 64 wasnt that great and that Miyamoto cant make a good game anymore. The problem on that part is people still defend him, there's kind of a reason why he's being called "Japanese George Lucas"
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>>9112088
nah, after zero that title mainly goes to Miyamoto. people are glad she wasn't in zero now because she didn't get fucked over
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Star Fox in Super Robot Wars when? after Yamato getting in, it feels like anything is possible
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>>9106456
I wish this artist would draw more Slippy x Peppy art
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>>9114577
Sometimes xopachi draws krystal being really fit and showing muscles and other times he draws her thicc and even plump once or twice.
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>>9105133
>>9107347
>>9107665
Artist name plz you bish
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>>9114577
I like the angle there
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>>9097943
>Hard mode: No bitching about characters or other dumb shit. Try to be civil
Always set these threads on hard mode. They'll always come in this thread, and fail that mission.
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Has there ever been any good representation of krystal as a character and not an attractive looking fox character? The closest thing I ever found was those leaked footage of dinosaur planet for N64.
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>>9118884
The beginning of Adventures
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>>9111829
>>9115417
Artist's name is MintySkin on Paheal/Inkbunny. This sketch series is on IB but he's got a lot of colored work along the same lines on Paheal.
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>>9119287
While that I'd sorta true her portion was so short and her intraction with others so brief and generic of a "I wanna help out" protagonist that it is negligible IMO. This isn't a point against krystal though but rather how the game handles her character.
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Any fics or pictures where Wolf is the bottom and Fox is the Top?
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>>9111592
Im reading the back of my SFA game box and I like how it says that Fox will uncover the truth about "The mysterious Krystal"

Blatant false advertising right there
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So I have >>9097986 but I need to lower the file size to upload em
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>>9124847

Shit, making jpg versions didnt help it. The sizes on em are beyond the 4mb range. Any way to make it such without resorting to resizing?
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>>9124954
Upload it on drop box, mega, or other file sharing site and share the link. Or post it on u18 chan, their limit is 20mb per image
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>>9125084

board u 18 chan rs topic 1255855
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>>9125388
Thanks for sharing
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Human on anthro. Much, much better than dinos.
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>>9097943
Reminder that Krystal is not actually a Star Fox character, was never intended to be a Star Fox character, and symbolizes the start of the decline of the series.
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>>9130734
Though krystal was never intended to be a star fox character her appearances in adventure and afterwards cemented her status as a star fox character whether you like it or not. And yes she does represent the decline of the series despite not being the main cause of it. Despite that her character doesn't do much if at all to improve the series. She is just the fan service character with the most bland descriptions and characterizations. Heck, they never even gave her a last name.
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I wish Falco would bully me
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>>9130734
yeah she's totally the reason zero was a mess.
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in all honesty, there's not much to lend to the idea that assault and command would have been much better games without krystal.

assault still would have had its problems with the on foot missions and such and command still would have been a mess. at best it just loses her endings
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>>9103408
Just a shame that there isn't really any reason for it to be a Star Fox

>>9103728
Why do you obsesses this much over one Zerofag? this is almost stalker-tier here.

>Although I feel as if the game isn't quite 'objectively' perfect
>gives it a 10 anyway
Lol

>and a big part of that is due to the control scheme, which is intuitive, easy to use, and offers an insane amount of depth to the general gameplay
Holy shit...
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>>9130986
Don't reply to him. He admitted a thread or two ago that he only says it to bait people.
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>>9131065
Stupid Sexy Falco.
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>>9130836
>cemented her status as a star fox character whether you like it or not
>was removed from Zero
Now don't get me wrong, Zero sucked, but she isn't "cemented" in anything besides the hearts of fanboys.

The rest of your post I...actually agree with, that was kinda a 180 lol.

>>9130986
>one game comes out far after the series starts declining
>krystalfags will only focus on shitty zero like it somehow redeems the previous trash
But why?
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>>9131099
I'm the guy you replied to regarding krystal and being cemented as a character or not. Here's my logic for why Krystal wasnt in zero. If zero was another remake of 64 and adventures took place around 7-8 years after 64, that would make krystal in 64 10-12 since she was 19 in 64. If zero was a reboot of 64 and kept some of the elements in 64, then it would be awkward for all these krystal fags to see their favorite sexy furry cha racer flying around as a preteen (or not depending of some krystal admirers are also unto underaged stuff)
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>>9131099
>64fags will only focus on Krystal like it somehow redeems Zero
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>>9131144
Or, Nintendo wanted to reboot again and try to get back to "what made game great"

And failed miserably lol. Don't get me wrong, she became what she became, whether I like it or not is irrelevant, if she makes another appearance, if they even MAKE another SF game, it's whatever, maybe her reboot won't be an awful, dumbed down love interest with no character.

>>9131146
>literally says zero sucked in the post
>guy thinks you're trying to redeem zero
Why are krystalfags so stupid tho?
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adventures was a shitty game that almost no one liked and the team wanted to distance themselves from it but along the way they got caught up on the gimmicky control system that NTDOY was pushing instead of making a sequel to a game that came out like 20 years ago and still holds up.
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>>9130734
i wish that stick was my dick.
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>>9131146
I actually do like zero quite a bit honestly but I really can't defend a lot of the criticisms and issues the game has. My liking a game doesn't mean I think it's great since many people do enjoy playing bad games for various reasons.

My thoughts on zero is that the best portions of the game are among the best moments I've ever played in a star fox game period but there are also way more moments of questionable and poorly designed sections of the games, among them being inability to change control options that much and all bosses being all range mode. I also am 3xtrwmelt disappointed that the game never got uplates or patches that would have fix most of the biggest issues like what happened with sonic lost world with its 100 rings being 1 life and non motion control options for wispals post patch. There is also the feeling that the GSM doesn't feel complete a's many levels are repeats and many iconic world's like macbeth and Katina and honestly also venom are absent. The game overall felt rushed and could have been great with mote time in development and someone challenging miyamoto's inputs into the game.
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>>9131167
Rawr!
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>>9131065
>>9131072
>>9131081
>>9131089
>>9131098
>>9131115
Alright then, I'm out.
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>>9127271
Oh yes.
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>>9127271
>palcomix
But yes you are correct
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>>9131509
It's either that or edits, sadly.
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Apparently the barneyfag didnt get the message OP was trying to say
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>>9131099
she was never in 64 and zero is a remake of 64. why would she be in that when she was never in the original
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>>9131973
Appeasing Krystal fanboys, which is good they didn't.

But bad they tried to appease other fanboys lol.
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>>9131068
>>9131062
>no more wolf in smash for shenanigans like this

fuck
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>>9134279
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>>9131973
not to mention, one of the directors at platinum games said they'd like to include her if zero got a sequel
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Which one /trash/?
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>>9135034
Peppy honestly, Fox is cute but someone the other day turned me onto girl Peps.
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>>9135074
Was it this?
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>>9135273
That's the one! Same guy?
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>>9135291
It appears that our dicks have touched again.
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>>9135326
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>>9135482
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>>9135493
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>>9135505
We need drawfags to make more MILF Peppy's.
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>>9135326
I dunno, that first pic was definitely my favorite, imo the most quality one I could find after I was turned on by it.
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>>9135569
Sadly, it's the only batch I could find over time. Have a fox.
>ywn fuck grill Peppy while she gives you advice on flying.
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>>9136019
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>>9135921
>"Do a barrel roll" She says in a half moan as you flip her onto her stomach and begin laying claim from behind
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>>9136228
Writefag this, nigga.
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>>9132063
heh, that movie had so much potential.
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>>9136591
Perhaps later when I'm less tired.
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Is the star fox series now dead?
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>>9137326
Essentially yes.

It has been a fun ride.
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>>9137326
No, just wait for about 5 years. Yay.
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>>9137369
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Just think, Krystal could be shitposting on these threads...
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>>9137439
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>>9137391
Why the hell would the artist add armpit hair (fur?) For Katt? It's distracting to me.
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>>9137667
Fetish or French, either or.
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Can any one of you nerds color this?
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>>9137858
Not a problem, didn't know what color the inside of the arwing was so I kinda went with a futuristic green.

Also Dogma is brown right?
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>>9137944
It's aight, I forgot to post a reasonable inspiration. Brown is a good alternative color.
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>>9137944
Also, color her fur purple. It's a fetish of mine.
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>>9138175
Here you go man, it's a living work of art.
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>>9138246
Neat, now make pic related's head her's. I assume a well educated individual such as yourself should know Photoshop?
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>>9135326
>>9135493
>>9135505
more r63 peppy
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>>9139494
That's all folks.
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Never forget.
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>>9139780
WTF did I just see
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>>9139881
The leaked script for the next game to be presented at this year's E3.
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>>9139957
That was drawn by JECbrush. What happened to him?
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Never ever.
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>>9135505
R63 Peppy, I love this concept.
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I hate this model but...
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THICC
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>>9149706
Ugliest pic I've seen yet lol.
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Seeing all these "fan art" of krystal madee realize that if a few Nintendo employees are aware of all this (which chances are they might be), they'd opt to retire her as a character in a star fox game for good to keep their family friendly appearance.
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>>9139780
Nevar evar
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>>9150557
Japs arent into kemono though
And Krystal was made by Rareware, who Nintendo hates
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>>9151019
>Japs arent into kemono
? ? ?
?
?
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>>9151053
If its full on female furry and not some buffed out male anthro rapist fucking an anime girl, you're out of luck
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>>9151063
What are you even talking about, japs are into kemono.
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why the fox not
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>>9151109
They really arent
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>>9151136
Explain the existence of kemokko lovers
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>>9151152
Im saying that shit isnt as mainstream as kemonomimi and never will be
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>>9151202
THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL THIS KEMO JAP WORDS
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>>9151255
Kemono is furry
Kemonomimi is anime bitch with animal ears and tail
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>>9151287
So like catgirls and shit?
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>>9151319
yes, and about 95% of monstergirls
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>>9151351
From my understanding, what little there is, Kemono isn't so much a fandom as like furry, but more their concept of anthro animals. So it's not that people aren't necessarily "into it" it's just a style that exists. From what I gather though it's much less taboo than "furry" culture so there's less of an abject fandom surrounding it.
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>>9150557

>Fanart = influencing

Nobody gives a shit about it, what's funny is how Wayforward was asked about all the Shantae porn that's been made and though they say they're a family friendly company, they dont mind it at all. In fact they think it's a good thing.

By this logic, you might as well remove the majority in Smash, Pokemon, or any other game really. Shit, Gamefreak is completely aware of it that they reference it both in the games and anime

>>9151019

Solatorobo says otherwise, from what I understand there's been an increase of kemono ever since that happened.
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>>9151567

But if I had to really compare, might as well retire Fox, Falco, and Wolf since they get a fuck ton of gay shit that treads territory /d/ wouldn't appreciate.

>Macro
>Scat
>Hyper variations, mostly muscles and dicks
>Inflation, full body, the kind Tom Preston likes
>Vore
>General gay shit

I'm probably missing others, now also add how hostile the people who produce this shit are.
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>>9151612
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>>9151123
What is up with his torso?
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>>9152558
Can you draw any better you dumb faggot?
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>>9137326
nobody knows at this point
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>>9137326

>Koei proposed a Musou game featuring Star Fox
>Rejected
>Dylan Cuckbert proposes remaking the very original
>Rejected, though for good reason. This would've killed the series as it would've been 64 for the 4th-5th time technically, not to mention everyone knows other than the OST, the SNES game doesnt hold up

Because of Zero, the series is in critical condition. The only way it'll ever redeem itself is if it follows Fire Emblems example. Though they technically did years ago, it was just a little too early. Why I believe having a dev team like Cyberconnect2 would be ideal since they put a ton of effort into Solatorobo despite it's shortcoming (it didnt sell that well, but the devs were really happy to of gotten it released worldwide despite it). I will say they'd need to be combined with another team since Solatorobo suffered in being piss easy.

Platinum x Cyberconnect2?
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>>9154144
>going with platinum again for anything
Retard.
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>>9154212

In all fairness, they had to go with what Miyamoto said. Otherwise they would've did their own thing, they pretty much confirmed that if they were to make another. I dont know of any other developer that would be good alongside CC2.
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>>9154283
>company covers its ass after a blunder
Yep nothin new here, don't get me wrong I get they had to work within constraints, but it's not like they're the second coming or something for Starfox.
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>>9154144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G5UwCyr_g8
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>>9154144
Give StarFox to motherfucking Retro Studios
Or HAL
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>>9151612
This. It transcends even the usual furfaggotry at times it is amazing
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>>9154306

It was before it released was when Platinum mentioned Miyamoto was a pain in the ass to work with as he kept pitching a bunch of stupid ideas at them. You could say this is nothing, but considering how it was reported how all he did was climb fucking trees in BOTW, it kinda shows. This wouldnt be the first time a dev from Nintendo would confuse another team entirely. Sakamoto managed to baffle Team Ninja that even their new recruits wondered why the fuck they were even going with his ideas for Other M.

If you dont know about the latter, give this a read
https://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%201/
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>>9154579
>give this a read
No

Companies cover their ass, Nintendo do it, Platinum do it.
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Best ship.
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>>9155374
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>>9155390
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>>9155411
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>>9155440
>>9155411
>>9155390
>>9155374

>Archie has made a Sonic and Megaman comic series for years
>Archie has even done a Sonic x Megaman crossover
>Cant do this because Nintendo is up their ass about letting anyone use their licenses

What's worse is Archie really wants to make Nintendo comics. Last I knew they wanted to do the following;

>Mario
>Kirby
>Star Fox
>Donkey Kong
>Metroid

Only one that seems to be okay to them is the Zelda manga series. Im not counting the Nintendo Power comic reproduction of Zelda ALTTP and Mario Adventures because those obviously ended long ago
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>>9156061
Hell, even an Archie artist did pic related.
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>>9156285
I do think that of all the Nintendo IPs that can work as a comic it would hands down be a star fox one. Mario and DK are too unstructured and lacking narrative to make for really good continuous story telling (maybe episodic ones) while metroid and zelda do better with the main characters acting as the players avatars and not as their own unique being narrative wise. Star fox has pretty established world's and characters with their own traits to make this work. Kirby can also be a food choice IMO but again the main focus shouldn't be on Kirby but supporting cast like in the anime.
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>>9155411
Living the dream.
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best fox/wolf fics???
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>>9160614
I'm not into fics. Who's the artist of this?
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>>9161820
macks
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>>9156285
I want to see Butler draw Krystal
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>>9162561
Is he available for commissions and also oh god what's wrong with sonic?
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>>9162645
niggers
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>>9151202
>mainstream

don't use otaku and neet for reference of mainstream
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>>9154611
>evidence is in front of my ass but I will cover my ears

Americans
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>>9164778
>posts unrelated information pretending its relevant
Everyone else
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>>9160614
>Wolf/Fox
Nothing I can think of at this moment. I haven't looked for that pairing.
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>>9164873
but there have been interviews that said Platinum did just grunt work you american
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>>9164907
Lol why you so mad I'm better than you by default? You act like admitting I'm a member of the strongest nation is a problem.

Also source?
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>>9164946
> You act like admitting I'm a member of the strongest nation is a problem.

nation != people

especially with the stereotypes and common behavior

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/star-fox-zero-in-hindsight-the-developers-on-the-controls-the-decision-not-to-include-multiplayer-and-the-future-of-star-fox

Outright states Platinum only does visual work. Gameplay, scripting, etc. are all on Miyamoto.
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>>9165007
>nation != people
But the nation is made up of the people

Why are foreigners so retarded?

Also nice link, all I see is more ass covering.
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>>9166351
>But the nation is made up of the people

hahaha no, a nation is made of ideals and beliefs, and other abstract shit, the people are a different thing

>all I see is more ass covering

seems like a lack of reading comprehension too, why are you here anyway, /v/ is that way
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>>9166486
>hahaha no, a nation is made of ideals and beliefs, and other abstract shit, the people are a different thing
Which are held by the people who make up the nation. How fucking stupid are you? I'm going to take a bunch of ideals, beliefs, and abstract shit and put it all the place in an empty giant plot of land.

Whelp what a great nation.

>seems like a lack of reading comprehension too
I didn't read it, just wanted to bother you more lolol.
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>>9166653
>Which are held by the people who make up the nation.

Ahahahaha how cute.
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>>9166664
>Ideals aren't held by people
What the fuck are you smoking, seriously. Where do you think they come from, the grand ether?
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>>9166688
>he thinks all of the people of a nation uphold a nation's ideals
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>>9166733
>he thinks everyone in a nation has to have the same ideal for the ideals society values most to take the helm

Face it bro, you're retarded, I expect no less from a non murcan.
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>>9166757
yeah you clearly have no idea how it works then, probably thinks every utopian virtue with face value
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>>9166772
>gets called out for being an idiot
>HUR DUR YOU JUST DONT GET IT
Yes, nations are built on the values of the people, even a dictatorship comes to power by the people's support.
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>>9166857
>dictatorship exist because people want to!
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How come a bunch of /int/ faggots got a board but us furfags still have to use /trash/
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>>9167171
>dictatorship exist because people want to!
Do you actually know how the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany came to be? You think one lone asshole with a small band of people overpowered the local government and took charge?

People wanting it, they lined up for it, they were ready to kill and die for it.
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>>9097943
more like ntr thread
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Why Krystal and Renamon are so often together?
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>>9168930
Babbys furst anthro for artists
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>>9135034
They're all pretty fine (yes, even Slippy) but Peppy is the best.
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>>9169634
I'd still get some Fox on the side tho, she's such a cutie.

But big tit rabbits get me every time.
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>>9167462
It all started with Something Awful.
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>>9170667
>continues from assault
Dropped.

I'm not sayin we need to restart it again and again but Assault set up nothing interesting and ruined Star Wolf.
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>>9137326
In Miyamoto's hands, yes. They need to give it to someone who knows what the fuck they're doing. This series needs a good story. Something that actually continues what Assault did.

>And no, I don't consider Command as canon because that shit is all over the place.
But have you ever notice those clowns that point out people who don't consider Command as canon? Meanwhile, they're exactly the same ones that treat Adventures, and Assault as non-canon. Oh noes, Adventures and Assault happened, the only way to save the series is to restart it. Damn hypocrites.
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>>9170705
See >>9170678
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So much for Hard Mode.... also, I don't have page 2; it's paywalled.
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>>9170683
This Sonic artist = Max autism. If you've seen all his cuck Tails shit, and the reason behind it, you'll understand just how sad he is.

>Tails is too popular in Sonic porn
>Artist gets a hate boner over it and goes full retard by constantly drawing Tails unwilling watching Sonic screw other girls, and depicts Sonic as the chick magnet.

All this because of Tails "gets all the ladies." This is his so-called revenge against Tails, and those who like the character, when in reality people are like "this artist has mental issues." Now I have nothing against cuck, but this is literally one of the top dumbest things I've seen within the Sonic fandom. You're pretty much a fucking idiot if you're taking porn and shipping that seriously.
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God damn it why is all the straight porn so fucking shit?
You gays have it good.
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>>9171125
All furry artists are autists
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>>9171194
Yeah, but that guy is a new generation of stupid.
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>>9171752
He does a cute femfox tho.
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>>9171130
>You gays have it good.
As one who's bi. To this I say not really, it's limited. You usually see the same old girly Fox McCloud with two dom characters, that being Wolf and Falco. Other characters such as Peppy & Slippy don't really get attention because old, and furries aren't into frogs. Next you have over the top bara, and lastly a large selection of giant Fox & Falco fucking buildings if that's your cup of tea. The gay side doesn't have much variety.
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>>9171851
I guess, but it's still hard to overlook his mindset.
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>>9172678
I guess it's like Jay Naylor or Adam Wan, or that one crazy bipolar bitch that was on /trash/ recently. Though his/her art wasn't all that great.

Just some fucks sometimes. Honestly for me it's more cringe when you see someone's fursona with like, every member of the crew, or with the doods in the sonic universe or somethin. Hate seeing the weird assholes who commission 100 works of their character all over the place, even if the pic is good, hard to get hard you feel me?

That said, yeah the guy does seem pretty crazy if he's trying to get back at a fanbase by drawing the character they like in shitty positions lol.
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>>9171851
hum where? The pic you are quoting isn't from him.
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>>9172931
Oh, whos it from?
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>>9172918
I know Jay Naylor has a cuck obsessing despite his art being fucking delicious, but all I know of Wan is that comic where that cuck dog takes his underage daughter ad her friend to a hotel while his wife gets fucked by literally 30 big burly male dogs
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>>9172936
tgwonder
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>>9173011
Basically, there's a lot. He used to post a ton of relationship drama all over the place, and did a huge blogpost rant because kids kept PMing him to do commissions for 10 bucks. The rant was basically him describing how he's god's gift to art. He also did a rant after this shitty sculpture he made only sold for the entry level price, and basically it was the same thing as the commission rant, cept more attacking of the furry community and how disappointed he was in their tastes.

Also he created his own furshit species that was like, genetically modified to be all gay for his general fetish purposes.

Long story short, the guy is pretty fucked in the head.

>>9173049
Thanks, some nice stuff I'm findin.
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>>9173011
>his art being fucking delicious
Eh..

>all I know of Wan is that comic
Even in the first page you could see some cucking in the background. It's crazy.
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>>9171130

You must not be looking hard enough, though there is some decent gay shit, the problem is it's much more screwed up than what the straight art gets. >>9151612 covers all this

If that wasnt bad enough, some of the gay furries who do this shit are that up their ass about their headcanon that they'll actually go into a shitfit if you so much as say anything that counters it. Some of these people even express their bitter hatred towards either one or all the girls in the series for this reason alone that it's practically unhealthy. There's kind of a reason why many tend to hate the gay side of the furry fanbase because for some reason most of em tend to be whiny snowflakes.

Slightly off topic, but to back this up, a gay furry by the name of Klace made a shitty furry VN for Steam and proceeded to bitch and censor all criticism. Another case is the horsefucker tumblrette who's making the Super Lesbian RPG (originally an MLP game). Though not out, the guy already revealed to being a massive retard. There might be more cases, but my point is they're really bitchy for some reason.
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I'm surprised no one has yet to draw krystal as she would have looked like at the time of star fox 64 which she would likely be 11 or 12.
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>>9171130
We've got our own set of crap art believe me

>>9172157
You gotta look for variety but it's not as often

Searching for good falco art that isn't Macro commissions and isn't Fox/Falco.

To be honest I'm enjoying the sfw art from Pixiv more
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>>9174373
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>>9176836
Artist?
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>>9176862
Sindoll
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>>9177157
Thanks, that muzzle design is sex.
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I have a bubbly squeeshy looking characters, so I focus a lot on chubby characters so drawing a Lithe characrer is refreshing.

Leon looks Lithe enough
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>>9177198
Get used to it
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>>9179196
What?
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>>9180642
Sindoll suffers from sameface.
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>>9181633
but its good sameface
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>>9178364
Muh dick.

Saved.
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>>9183320
That's love right there. Me, I wouldn't be able to do that. You should see how bikers cover their whole body with tattoos. Not implying this guy is a biker.
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>>9184490
The fuck! This guy probably spent more dough than sAlty.
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>>9177198
>>9177157
>>9176862
>>9175608
soon
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>>9185426
>Never been to these places for doujin.
I wonder if their stuff is uncensored right off the bat. If it's riddled with black bars or heavy pixel shit, fuck it.
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>>9184490
is this the dude who commissions everyone to draw giant falco fucking buildings or whatever
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>>9184490
>>9184818
Fucking Korean doctor man, he probably spent more than the guy who paid for that Kung Fu Panda comic.
>>9185426
>that Legend of Mana doujin
how can I get my dirty little hands on this?!
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>>9188704
>that Kung Fu Panda comic.
Better late than never?
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>>9185426
>That dog on the table to the right

Holy shit what is that and who did it, looks like someone else's table and work.
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>>9188746
it is
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>>9188746
Look like kemonono
https://exhentai.org/g/744793/4037496f6d/
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>>9188804
>>9188817
ay, that's nice
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>>9188804
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