How come there aren't more games themed around Christianity?

>>8980002
Because dev companies are in faggy liberal hubs and they vowed to destroy Christians and their idols.

t. Assassin's creed ending

Because christians are the badguys according to the people that make videogames.

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What are some games with angels?

>>8980002
I just want more games revolving around all kinds of angels

e.g bayonetta

>>8980004

Wouldn't quite say they're bad guys, but Christianity certainly spawns more extreme-minded followers than other popular religions in the US.

>>8980005
Persona 5

>>8980002
Because conservatives can't make games and the people who actually make games aren't religious.

>>8980002
Most people haven't read the bible

>>8980007
Yeah, extreme Christians blowing themselves up in crowded areas is a rampant problem in the US.

>>8980011
shooting up*

>>8980007
I forgot Christians are the ones going around stabbing people, blowing up subways and shooting up gay bars.

>>8980012
name one shooter motivated by Christianity in the last 20 years

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>>8980002
because only heretics worship a floating invisible man in the sky whose sole proof of existence is a man who literally brainwashed people into believing in him through the power of "faith"

>>8980011
>>8980013

Christians don't need to do that because they can just get the government to send bomber planes and drones to the places filled with infidels they don't like and then pretend they have nothing to do with it and send missionaries once the countries are destabilized enough that they can convince anyone living there to convert for a slice of bread.

>>8980016
DEUS VULT, THE PAGANS KNOW
SHUT IT DOWN

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>>8980006
I just love me some cool angels
especially with the choir music going on in the background.

>>8980007
why would you theme a christian game around the US?
>>8980014
nigga i don't look up their names

>>8980016
Yeah, that totally was about christianity man.

Double whammy that leaves NO ONE please
>Christfags get butthurt representing religion in almost any way. Either because it's portraying it in a bad light or because it's the inaccurate
>Non Christians get triggered because it's not their religion and/or portraying Christianity in a manner they don't agree with or just plain hate religion

>>8980002
Because they aren't controversial. Christianity is on the decline in the world and it's gotten repetitive making fun of christfags.

>>8980002
Have you seen any of Outlast 2?

>>8980011
Right wing terrorists have killed over 50 people in the United States in the past year.

Left wing terrorism has killed... 0 people, ever.

>>8980002
Because Christianity is cancer.

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>>8980002
I fucking hate this batch of 15 year old DEUS VULT faggots. The reason why there aren't more games centered about christianity is because there have been 30 fucking years of videogame prosecution by christians,, you fucking dolt.
There are also plenty of christian games, but they're all shit, because they're christian first, games later, so gameplay, interesting mechanics and depth are nowhere to be found. I'm not even a fedoralord atheist but you fucking assholes who decided to pay attention to politics because LE GIRLS ARE GROS ECKS DE faggots are the fucking worst.

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>>8980006
I fucking love angels

>>8980024
>Talking about religious extremism
>Bring up politics out of nowhere
Mentally impaired people are not welcome here

Serious answer: it's harder to sell.

You'd be risking offending anybody if you paint a specific religion in a bad way. Trying to make it look purely good sounds preachy. Sticking strictly to its source causes it to alienate people who won't like religious stuff and religious people themselves would be critical of the content.

The best way to depict any sort of religion without hurting revenue would be to have a loosely based depiction of it (e.g. Dante's Inferno) or just making one up on the spot (e.g. fantasy games in general).

>>8980028
>Mentally impaired people are not welcome here

is that a joke? where do you think we are? lurk harder, newfag

>>8980028
so leave

But there's Christianity in every single game made in the west. Are you really this dense, OP?

>>8980032
Christianity?in MY World of Warcraft?

>>8980002
watched the director cut a few days ago, such a fucking good movie

>>8980002
What is Jerusalem worth?

>>8980002
It doesn't have as good of lore as most other oldschool religions. Greek/roman Norse etc all have way cooler shit going on.

>>8980030
Thanks for making /v/ even worse

>>8980031
I will leave as soon as you can understand basic english, so probably never

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>>8980027
Lets post some angels man, both humanoid and dead sea scrolls
real clean

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>>8980002
Not like christfags would ever play it they'd get extremely asshurt.

>>8980033
Yeah. Christianity isn't just DUDE DEUS VULT LMAO.

Christianity is literally the fabric of Western civilization, morals, ethics, writing etc. Christianity is infused in just about everything, even if it's a fantasy game/movie/novel.

>>8980036
this

Christianity is pretty boring

>>8980036
>It doesn't have as good of lore as most other oldschool religions
Depends if you count the old testament

>Greek/roman Norse etc all have way cooler shit going on.
Christianity has the superior aesthetics

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>>8980038

>>8980042
>Christianity has the superior aesthetics
are you high? compared to greek/roman mythology?

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>>8980043

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>>8980036
>>8980038
>way cooler shit

>>8980042
Even then man, there's just one god and he's the most perfectest. It's some real gary stu shit. I prefer zeus fucking bulls and being a regular crazy man.

>>8980041
Yeah, imagine valkyrie profile with christian mythos instead. It just doesn't work.

>>8980002
>People who care about SJWism in general
Because Athiest devs
>People who don't care about SJWism at all
Because it might piss off Christans and result in a tissy fit. It's safer to make games inoffensive to a global population, so you can really rake in the money.

>>8980034
what is this? kingdom of heaven? i remember seeing the trailer for this and thinking "this isn't LOTR"

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>>8980038

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>>8980046
That's some good stuff there man

>>8980002
Because /pol/ fags would get triggered and threaten the devs

>>8980044
I meant in the cult aspect. Cathedrals, music, rituals and all that are infinitely more elaborate and interesting than pagan stuff

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>>8980043
>Posting your aunt's lawn ornaments

>>8980002
>I have literally never played a game in my life: the post

>>8980002
Well it depends on how broad of the christian faith you want to cover, a specific story or general themes from the testaments or teachings.

>>8980053
even then i'd disagree, there was so much shit the romans built that didnt survive

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Is this an angel thread?

>>8980020
If you think that Americans' Christian beliefs don't have any impact on their foreign policy, you're clueless. While there are plenty of secular reasons for America doing what it does, much of the American Christian population either directly or indirectly enables these decisions. Even our support of Israel is really only because we're so Christian and many American Christians either feel it is a sacred duty to support Israel or feel that by supporting Israel it will hasten the Second Coming. And even since the colonial period, there has always been a relationship of mutual benefit between Christian missionaries and the occupying Western governments, since the governments always had an interest in converting native populations to Christianity and missionaries were certainly not going to complain about some region of muslims or pagans being conquered and the door being opened to convert these people to Christianity, even if the means of conquest were questionable, since the payoff is the natives' salvation. Many of our politicians, especially the neocons, also consider themselves devout Christians. we're probably the only Western country left in the world where Christianity, on the popular level, still plays a critical role in our political decision making.

Why would over-zealous American Christians need to resort to vigilante-esque tactics when they have a stable government that will allow them to achieve their ambitions more gradually, at generally less cost to themselves and through various "legitimate" means. If an American Christian good ol boy wants to kill sandniggers, he just need to join the army.

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>>8980041
bruh theres a bit in the bibble where dogs eat a lady but leave her hands untuched

>>8980051

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>>8980024
>Left wing terrorism has killed... 0 people, ever

>>8980002
How about you play fucking video game instead of whining?
Even mass effect andromeda has zac snyder shit-tier meme christian imagery and allegory in it.

Unless you're making a game about some mundane shit, a real-life religion is pretty tricky to work into a game. If you're making a more fantastical game and want to comment on religion (or just use some aesthetics from it) it's usually the better choice to use some fictional religion as a parallel to avoid butthurt and mostly to avoid being so heavy-handed that you actively make your story suffer for it.

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>>8980041
>Christianity is boring

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>>8980002
Because Christianity can't compete with the big muscle daddies in Norse and Greek mythology.

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>>8980057
It just doesn't compare

>>8980060
I'm no bible scholar, but I don't think it really has shit on most of the religions with more than one god. They have way better stories and worldbuilding. Gary stus make for shitty stories.

>>8980060
so? that's unbelievably boring in comparison to the crazy shit in greek/roman, egyptian, or norse mythology

i mean, you could have said almost anything else, like the deluge, and that would have been cooler than dogs eating someone

>>8980003
If you're going to pick a pope to be the bad guy, Alexander VI is the least controversial option possible. The guy was like the epitome of papal corruption.

>>8980004
Ok but you can make a game themes around the bad guys.

>>8980049
yeah its kingdom of heaven, you got two versions, the normal one that cuts a lot of important character develpoment and scenes, and teh director cut that lasts like 3 hours and its pretty fucking good, its about the cruzades

>>8980014
Eric Rodolph

>>8980059
Please tell me this is copy pasta

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>>8980058
If its up to me yeah it is
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zEP2gBuWpw

>>8980065
in comparison to other faiths, ya

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El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron is really the only sorta Christian themed game that I can think of that was fun and not a blatant rip off like the Dante's Inferno game.

>>8980008
Any SMT game really.

>>8980071
> its about the cruzades
kek, it's about how saladin is absolutely based and christfags are a bunch of unorganised fractured fagots.
wait, they still are in 2017.

Because it's satisfying to kill mudslimes

>>8980078
>they still are
>CHRISTIANS ARE CONTROLLING THE GOVERNMENT AND BOMBING SAND NIGGERS REEEEE
pick one

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>>8980038
Most of my angels are borderline lewd.

>>8980071
not to sound like a pleb, but how is the action? is it more of a drama?

SMT

>>8980078
I'm not religious, but there's like 6 different churches just in my relatively small town. How the fuck can worshipping one dude and his dad result in 6 different faiths.

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>>8980081
That's fine friend

I'm writing a game with Christianity as the basis for the setting.
Is there a book or something that names angels, gives their descriptions and their powers?
Kind of like the Lesser Key of Solomon, but instead of demons it's for angels.

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What games let you achieve the Holy Grail and reach the ultimate spiritual purity?

>>8980082
It's more of an epic like Troy.

>>8980002
I really want an 7 year armageddon game

Its a three sided war; angels v demons on earth. Human players can choose to either side with angels or demons, or stay neutral.

There would be a bigger focus on melee over guns, with players battling for control of humanity and its souls and eventually either Jesus or the Antichrist winning.

Theme wise it would be a bit like Blood Dragon with some fallout 1/2 but less neon and more fire

>>8980084
It's down to tradition.

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>>8980081
How about another lewd angel?

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Because Christian-themed games tend to be tacky shit made by dumb protestants.

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>>8980085
I've got quite a few.

>>8980086
read the dead sea scrolls, contains lots of information about angels

>>8980026
>I fucking hate this batch of 15 year old DEUS VULT faggots.
>>8980040
>Yeah. Christianity isn't just DUDE DEUS VULT LMAO.

I'm someone who never really went to church as a youngin and more laid back about it these days. Are regular Christians really pissed about teens turning it into a /pol/-tier edgelord kind of thing?

>>8980084
lol it's no difference in islam or buddhism or hinduism. the secret to long lasting religion isnt submission but adaptation.

>>8980014
the guy that shot up the abortion clinic in colorado

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>>8980091

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>>8980085

>>8980082
you got some pretty good sword fighting and war scenes, along with some drama.

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>>8980098

>>8980002
What game would even suit being based around Christianity?

More to the point, as another anon said you have the double whammy of hardcore christians being offended that you're depicting their religion in a manner not necessarily reverential, and you have the other side of people against christianity not wanting to see it in a video game. You'll then have an inevitable shitstorm when the fringe right or whoever picks up your game to cries of 'DEUS VULT' and then the counter-fringe-right bashes it for being hateful, etc.

Christianity has patrician aesthetics, but in the current climate it's too charged a topic, or would be made too charged a topic by other peoples' agendas.

>>8980092
where are zac snyder's kinos?

>>8980011
it's extremely common actually

>>8980092
Left is entry level af desu

>>8980095
>I'm someone who never really went to church as a youngin and more laid back about it these days. Are regular Christians really pissed about teens turning it into a /pol/-tier edgelord kind of thing?

in my experience, christians ARE the /pol/tier edgelords, so they support that behavior

>>8980097
1 guy who killed 3 people now name muslim shooters pls I'll wait

>>8980065
compared to the elder scrolls tier lore of hindu mythology, yes

norse mythology is probably the most ballr though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngSsaSimi8A


RATE

>>8980102
people just adapt its aesthetic for their made up religion in game anyway.

>>8980092
>be christian
>watch Gods Not Dead
>Even I can tell what bullshit this movie is
They literally kill off the only "atheist" in the movie

>>8980003
>Papists
>Christians

Anon, please.

>>8980002
It depends on what you mean themed; you could argue that all Medieval Europe/Theater games are themed around Christianity (even if you play as a Muslim state in CK2 or Total War, for instance, you will eventually brush against the Catholic world and have to interact with in Religious terms.) If you mean strictly themed like "Why aren't there games about the Life and Times of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST," that becomes harder because you either make it a straight bless-em-up which ends in your crucifixion or you get a bunch of Southerners riled up about how you're desecrating the Christchild and you'll get a Fox News special about the Cyber-War on Christians. I'm positive it's impossible to make a game that pleases both audiences seeking both gameplay and fidelity to religious texts simply because not a lot of cool shit happens in the Bible or Quran or even the Torah/Old Testament.


If you mean the former, then quite a lot of games are based around Christianity. Bioshock Infinite has a whole section where you get baptized into a society where miscegenation is a sin and it's meant to be a utopia for Baptist Americans. Christianity as a doctrine pervades the symbols that the Western Media produces and fabricates, making most things inextricable from the Christian culture that produces by nature of it needing to be understood in the context of that same culture. You can of course play Bioshock without understanding the uniquely Christian American undertones, but the narrative loses depth as a result. You can play Homeworld and have fun without connecting Hiigara -> Heigara and seeing the Islamic/Judaic influence that the story has, but you can't do that with a game that prompts action from you regarding material needs when all you have is fish and bread, and you especially can't have fun with a premise that pigeonholes you into living out the Holy Week lest you offend Wal-Mart.


Or go play the You Testament.

>>8980002
It results in little liberal shitbag hipster game developer faggots being edgy little pieces of shit and tipping their fedora at maximum tipspeed.

>>8980089
>Antichrist winning.
How would that be possible if Jesus has an omnipotent God on his side?

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>>8980101

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>>8980099

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>>8980036

The angels alone in biblical canon are enough to solo pagan gods, bruh.

Also no demon girls allowed.

>>8980107
that one guy in texas who tried to shoot up the muhammad drawing contest

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>>8980116

>>8980096
>>8980090
I guess you have to be faithful to get it. I would think faith would bring people together not drive them apart over the details.

I guess when you believe your eternal soul is at risk then the details start to matter a lot.

>>8980092
Scorsese made a good one.

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>>8980120

>>8980118
Yeah that's another reason why it's boring honestly. The gods of other religions have flaws and make mistakes. They make for interesting stories.

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>>8980117

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>>8980124
The Bible is more about the people in it trying to follow God than it is about God Himself
>>8980123

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How did Christianity go from the religion of kings and emperors and warriors who fought long bloody wars and men who built some of the greatest architectural works on the face of the earth and artists who through their devotion created the finest works of art to drunken rednecks crooning about going to church and senile parishioners getting bilked out of collection money that gets pissed away?

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>>8980126

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>>8980074
Oh that's some wonderful taste. I'm glad the B2 ones are around the same level too.

>>8980127
Blame Martin Luther.

How do you write Christianity as the bad guy in your game without coming off as fedora-tier?

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>>8980129
I wish more games had cool angels instead of the standard humans with wings

>>8980126
I get that, but the question was why no christian games and I said because boring lore.

>>8980127

Because there's a difference between Christianity in general, and Catholicism.

Protestants are absolute fucking shit.

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SnB had some interesting angel design too, despite it just being humanoid animeified

>>8980131
You could do what the Japanese devs do which is make some Shadowy Evil Church with some Shadowy Evil Head in a weird hat the villain. Just make the Catholic church nameless and you'll be able to make a villainous organization.

>>8980119
You mean the 2 muslims?

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>>8980133
Lots of the lore is pretty cool, like the locusts or the cosmic stuff.

>>8980131

Have a Jap write it, they barely understand Christianity so they use it as a stand in for their old feudal heirarchy.

>>8980131
BoF2 did it well. It was full of genuinely faithful well meaning people, but it was run by scummy assholes.

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>>8980132
In due time anon
Angels are supposed to be horrifyingly beautiful or beautifully horrifying, but there's nothing wrong with humanoid looking ones, in my eyes.

All angels are good to me.

>>8980134
You say that
But look at your fucking pope. He's a disgrace to the entire religion

>>8980002
shadow hearts

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>>8980141
I'm find with humanoids. I just want more variety

>>8980138
I don't think it's all bad, just that most other religions have it spanked.

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>>8980141
Shits real clean

Doom

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>>8980146
>seraphim
>when it's one throne

>>8980146
>seraphim-chan
>not ophanim-chan
shiggy

>>8980121
Over time religions acquire new traditions/rituals as a result of the their spread/mixing with pagan religions. Groups advocating a return to tradition or rebelling against perceived decadence are formed. Also most churches have an authority figure/system of sorts so if they don't like how your doing things your only option is to splinter off

>>8980024
>Left wing terrorism has killed... 0 people, ever.
What is communist terrorism?

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>>8980146
Oops, that's a ophanim
this is a seraphim

>>8980127
american protestantism and the move away from contemplation on the ultimate good to following the literal words of the bible exactly. Even if those words were only meant for a specific instance, even if those words were to force you to think on the nature of sacrifice, even if those words were an allegoy about the fact that group mentality blinds men from knowing right and wrong.

>>8980134
but the main problem with catholicism is that they base their doctrines in completely made up crap, I am convinced that each person that calls himself a catholic has enver read a single page of the bible.

>>8980024
Communists and anarcho communists have killed plenty

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?

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>>8980152
>a seraphim

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>>8980152
another one

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>this whole thread

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>>8980161
Why is it that a Jap game has the best angels of all?

>>8980155
>completely made up crap.
>singling out Catholicism
>discussing religion on a Croatian Journalism Board

2/8 m8

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>>8980161
>tfw angels

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>>8980158
close enough ;^)
>>8980161
Oh we haven't even started yet honey

Look, it's another thread where people use gnostic angels as if they're canon.

>>8980060
Don't forget all the shit Samson did, the Elijah shit, that one time St Nicholas revived a serial killer's victims by stitching them back together..

Christianity has some really cool concepts and stories. What I wouldn't give for a paradise lost inspired game playing as Micheal.

>>8980166
they're posting them because they look cool, dumbass

>>8980155
>but the main problem with catholicism is that they base their doctrines in completely made up crap

Well that's every religion, isn't it.

Go ahead and look up 'sola fide' and you'll realize why Protestantism is fucking garbage, and encourages communities to be filled with nothing but soulless drones.

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>>8980165
We're getting deeper into it
>>8980168
Don't reply anon

>>8980163
what I mean is that catholics do a lot of things that are simple not in the bible (sometimes they go completely against it), like the worship of saints, the dumb rule that priests cant get married, the first communion, even their way of baptism is completely made up

>>8980168
If they're not canon then it isn't Christianity.

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>>8980166
Slutty angel boys are still canon though, right?

>>8980127
>built some of the greatest architectural works on the face of the earth and artists who through their devotiom created the finest works of art
Because the church comissioned the art and paid them?
>to drunken rednecks crooning about going to church and senile parishioners getting bilked out of collection money that gets pissed away?
That stereotype is almost exclusively protestants in America. Breaking away from the Catholic church means they run the gamut from very good to batshit insane.

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>>8980170

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>>8980172
it's religion, you can argue christianity in it's entirety isn't canon because Jesus is considered a lying cunt to Judaism, and don't even get me started on Islam being created 700 fucking years later

>>8980171
The only way your complaint can be legit is if you're Eastern Orthodox as that's the only sect as old as Catholics.

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>>8980173
why is it that gay porn always has better looking panties than straight porn? it just aint fair

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>>8980175

>make game about christcucks
>non christcucks dont buy it because le forced agenda
>christcucks dont play it because they have been conditioned from a young age to believe vidya games are the devil


geeeee I wonder

>>8980175
source? now that's a cool looking angel. if they were real this is how i'd imagine they look. weird but somewhat realistic, as opposed to two rings and a dude stitched together with a bunch of animals

>>8980171
>do stuff that's not in the bible
That things been chopped up and edited so many times that's hardly suprising. Though that's part of the reason why Christianity is fractured. Some believe in following the bible itself others believe it must be interpreted through the priests/catholic church

>>8980176
Considering Judaism and Christianity are different religions how is that even an argument?

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>>8980178
I think it's just that guys look way better in them.

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>>8980181
Have you been living under a rock anon? Perhaps somewhere in a dark and moldy cave?
They're from Bayonetta 2

>>8980183
because Christianity came from Judaism. the major split happened when christ proclaimed himself messiah. christianity can be considered non-canon to the first iteration of the religion

>>8980181
Weren't some angels described as looking like they were made out of metal?

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What are some games that take place during the scholarly rise of Christianity in the 200's AD that follows the life of a youth as he lives on to become a desert hermit monk who develops a profound insight and delves into questions and scenarios in regards to Christianity and religion, as he seemingly subsists off of pilgrim donations and the vapor in the air itself?
Bonus points for featuring the dying age of Romantic paganism and the looming shadow of eastern Gnosticism, with a bit of sympathy towards them both.

>>8980185
i aint got a wii u, nigga

>>8980183
He's probably a retard that buys the "JESUS WAS JUST A DEAD JEW ON A STICK"

>>8980002
I'd love an over the top game about Jesus breaking into hell to offer salvation to the damned. Kicking demon ass by using his cross as a massive greatsword and beating demons to death with a whip.

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>>8980189
neither do I brother

>>8980186
Just because it's not canon to Judaism doesn't mean you can display angels in any manner and maintain that they're Canon to Christian conceptualizations of angels. Christian angels have to, by definitional truth, be canon to Christian doctrine on angels otherwise they aren't Christian angels.

>>8980184
i disagree, i just don't like how most girls are drawn in boring or un-feminine looking panties. i get why gay boys are, to make it REALLY gay, but the girls need those too

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>>8980190
You can always play Dante's Inferno.

>>8980188
>scholary rise
Weren't Christians quite violent/rebellious during that period?

>>8980190
Serious Sam x Christ would be chill if it was super over the top.

>>8980194
That was shit, though. It had interesting ideas but it was ultimately too busy aping God of War to have much of an identity of it's own.

I loved the look of hell, though.

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>>8980192
what i'm trying to say is that Christianity, like all faiths, have been splintering into different factions for thousands of years. from protestants to catholics to mormons. hell, tomorrow a whole new version of Christianity could come out and it could describe angles as looking like >>8980173

>>8980198
The movie wasn't half bad. Interesting how they went through several art directions throughout it.

>>8980199
Not to mention the DSC's explaining a lot of lost scripture and data about the bible

>>8980002
It's better to have no christian based games than to have Christian games made by either "DEUS VULT XD" posters or neoliberal "gay is okay" Christians

>>8980191
see, now that angel looks stupid. i much prefer the more "realistic" looking alien ones

>>8980195
There was a spread of scholars during that era, thus all the weird councils and splits.
As for anything vehement, I'd like to know, as I can't think of much.
I've always been interested in this era.

>>8980171
>like the worship of saints

Confirmed for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about. Idolatry is still proscribed by Catholics ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me"). They don't worship saints, they simply ask them to put in a good word with God.

I'm not even a Catholic and I know this shit.

>>8980200
Yeah, but it seemed a bit too edgy. Most crusade-related things tend to overplay how disgusting and depraved everything is.

Didn't see shit about what the muslims were doing to their subjugated populace.

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>>8980196

>>8980007
hahaha

>>8980206
I see your point, but I never saw it as a Crusader thing. True, the crusades were a great way of showing off the sins of man, but it mostly had to do with facing your sins one at a time, which Dante did with great emotion.

>>8980199
While true, there's a lot of cultural meaning common to people when they say angels that makes them think of Gabriel or Michael that isn't captured by sexy lewd angel boys. The original poster was complaining about the lack of orthodoxy or aesthetic rigor when it came to people displaying >>8980173 as opposed to >>8980196 .

>>8980095
American christians tend to be at least in line with edgy /pol/lacks, but I'm not pissed about right wing christians, those have always existed.
I'm specifically pissed at a certain group of very loud people on the internet to whom christianity was pretty much just an excuse to killing muslims or some other shit. I find it extremely disrespectful to actual christians - wether they want to kill muslims or not - that their faith has become a meme for edgy retards to rebel against their center-left parents and girls who probably became feminists after being stalked by some neckbeard to the point that "kill all men" became a reasonable position to them.
It's impressive how much of the new right can be traced back to pure teenage resentment, which is ironic, since the left is the one accused of resentment everytime.

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That's enough angel posting for me
sleep tight folks, off to hit the sack carry it on

>>8980205
and you dont need anyone other that jesus to "put up a good word with god" for you, thats the whole point, and how can you not say that catholics dont worship saints when you have hundreds of people every year doing a pilgrimage just to pray to saint "insert name here" to be blessed with a good year, money, health, etc etc

>>8980205
just because you insist it isn't worship doesn't stop it from being worship in practice

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Any games that let me accompany Dante and Virgil through Inferno?

I wouldn't mind a sort of Journey-like game in that setting honestly.

>>8980211
what are you fucking talking about?

Religion in general is a pretty shitty theme

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>Metroidvania game with SotN tier sprite work
>Like the chapel except the entire game is like that
>The further you go up sky gets brighter and there's more windows
>Start encountering angels and saints near the top, things start to get weirder
>OST is just baroque pieces
If only I had talent to make it

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>>8980002
>Evil Empire burned down my village and killed my parents!
>I accepted the unfair outcome as a consequence of original sin and moved on with my life

>My sworn rival committed an heinous act of villainy against me!
>I forgive him and try to move past it.

>A cataclysm that will consume the entire world is approaching!
>Confident in my faith and belief in a better world after this one, I humbly accept the oncoming apocalypse.

Gee, I wonder.

>>8980211
Eh, it's a phase. Many of them will lose interest in the meme, but at least they're making the religion easier to talk about. When I was a teen you'd get fedora'd on hard if you dare brought up christianity in any context but negative.

>>8980095
I don't think regular Christians are aware.

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>>8980220
kek

>>8980095
As a Catholic in a traditional Italian NYC parish, I can tell you that /pol/ shitposts about retaking Jerusalem and killing Muslims and Arabs not because they have renewed faith, but because they like to couch their terms in dramatic conflicts of faith and culture, the most dramatic of which is the Crusades and DEUS VULT bullshit. Go to any Gregorian chant vid and you'll find a bunch of templars talking about killing Saracens, while every Mass I've ever attended as an adult talks about tolerance and interfaith dialogue. Catholicism as an institution has grown much more progressive and accepting since Vatican II and the need to remain relevant to the modern polity and laity.

>>8980002
>just want a few games with christian-inspired themes
>even zoroastrian or hindu themes are fine
>people always turn it into politics
why can't we just have fun?

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>>8980211
sounds like this Saracen is a little butthurt
when the crusaders rise again and the "fortress" of Islam crumples like Jericho, you'll know the first words on our lips
>DEUS VULT!!

>>8980227
>comes up to you screaming DO NOT BE AFRAID
How do you react?

>>8980224
I'm not agreeing with the edgy /pol/ christian meme, but tolerance has officially gone too far when the pope is kissing muslim feet and letting them hold prayer in the fucking vatican.

>>8980224
Is /pol/ really identifying as Christian? They always seem to get pretty pissed off when Trump or any other right wing figure mentions it.

>>8980007
well placed bait friendo

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>>8980006
Bayonetta has the coolest depiction of angels.

>>8980216
How wasn't I clear

>>8980221
Yeah, I hope so. I was a huge fedora when I was a kid, and I'm probably still an atheist (discordian if memereligions are allowed, "social christian" if you get me), but religion (and belief, as a whole) is such an ubiquitous and fascinating aspect of human existence that people using it as a means to be even edgier is just awful.
Not to mention I've had friends and familiars who, through faith, managed to completely change their lifes for the better.

>>8980224
This tbqh

>>8980229
Yeah, because a chief of state and spiritual leader needlessly escalating tension with muslim sects willing to open a dialog with the West sure is the better way to solve the situation.

>>8980010
100% of atheists have

they told me so

>>8980224
The only "interfaith dialogue" you'll have with Islam is the eventual agreement to pay jizya and stop wearing visible crosses or publicly worshipping.

Catholicism is a fucking joke these days. It was always been a corrupt cesspit, and now it's on the forefront of anti-European cuck fetishism. Go and lick some illegal immigrants' feet.

>>8980050
kukukuku, anon.

>>8980233
He could, you know, do nothing.

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>>8980233
You're a pretty cool guy, Anon. I'll be praying for you.

>>8980211
You're doing a good deed anon
You are not wrong and will get a lot of angry responses
Please ignore them and enjoy your well done point
May the Lord bless you

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>>8980024
>Left wing terrorism has killed... 0 people, ever.

>>8980225
Because people always take the bait.
Always.

>>8980230
I'm curious to know what denomination /pol/-types who go on about being Christians on Twitter actually tend to be, since they spend half their time spazzing out about Catholicism and mainstream Protestantism. In between screaming to the high heavens about cucks and faggots and niggers, of course.

>>8980233
>Yeah, because a chief of state and spiritual leader needlessly escalating tension with muslim sects willing to open a dialog with the West sure is the better way to solve the situation.
So your answer to the violence and subjugation inherent to the islamic faith is...to let them dominate us?

>>8980230
I think there's definitely still a remnant of the whole "Amazing Atheist" Fedora crowd who attack Islam/Liberals from this angle of smarmy knowingness, but the most vocal voices that I see nowadays use Christianity as the vocabulary if not the rhetoric by which they justify violence/intolerance of Muslims/Jews. Keep in mind by the nature of 4chan, one man saying "lol fuck Ted Cruz what a cuck for being a Xtian" could very well be saying "DEUS VULT" with regards to a refugee boat sinking.

>>8980229
I understand that you might not walk away convinced, but Catholic teachings ask us to be like a conduit of Gods love to all, including those who reject Christ. Pope Francis's actions evinces this by taking pains to promote interfaith dialogue, both by allowing Shimon Peres and Abbas to worship in the Vatican and making a point to accept Muslims in a way that many Catholics might not be prepared to do for the purposes of not othering them. You're completely in your own right to disagree, but I like the overt actions and theater that Pope Francis has engaged in.

So apparently both the dead sea scroll angels and humanoid angels are canon? neat,
Hopefully we find more scrolls so we can give the bible some DLC

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>>8980243
What is it you want?

>>8980245
"Intolerance of Muslims", kek.

>>8980213
>and you dont need anyone other that jesus to "put up a good word with god" for you, thats the whole point
>being this fucking uneducated

You don't HAVE to pray for saints to intercede on your behalf. You're an idiot if you think veneration of saints is equal to idolatry.

Here's the difference:
>idolatry = asking another "power" to do something that only god can do
>honoring saints = asking them to ask god to do something that only he can do
The difference is who you are putting your ultimate faith in, and recognizing as the one above all others.

>>8980214
>just because you insist it isn't worship doesn't stop it from being worship in practice

Holy shit, this is a piss poor argument and shows how little knowledge you actually have. Nearly everything to do with veneration can look like idolatry when you have no context. Please give me an example of idolatry "in practice" as it regards Catholic saints.

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>>8980245
Did someone call?

>>8980119
hey that was in my city
my friend was at the center too

>>8980249
Oh shit that guy from myth busters really went down hill.

>>8980245
Catholics have been fighting off 1,400 years of Islamic invasions into Europe. What's different now?

You have let your guard down and it will be your downfall. They don't even need to win a battle this time, they can just continue mass-migrating until such a time that they can subjugate Christians and Jews, and execute or exile atheists.

So much for interfaith dialogue.

>>8980092
This

>>8980228

>y-you too..

>>8980245
>but Catholic teachings ask us to be like a conduit of Gods love to all, including those who reject Christ
I have no problem with people rejecting God or Christ, what I do have an issue with is what that act signifies to the world at large. History shows us where appeasing muslims gets you, and you'd rather we rush into that again because of God's love?

I'm sorry, but if the atrocities in europe have shown us anything it's that you don't answer violence with submission. You answer force with force or you get eradicated.

And, to be blunt, the capacity for interfaith dialogue is very limited. Islam operates on very different standards that aren't just offensive to us, but illegal and immoral. I don't want grooming and rape gangs to be a thing because it's our Godly right to let them walk on us.

>>8980224
Vatican II was a massive fucking mistake you complete fucking heretic.

Might as well get a subscription to one of those late night TV pastors while your at it.

>>8980107
omar "send the batty to abu-bakr" mateen

>>8980112
>protestancucks
>christians

>>8980024
holy shit you're genuinely retarded

>>8980239
>>8980240
Thanks my dudes, thanks for the prayers, may the peace of God be with you.

>>8980237
>>8980244
I hope you people realize the kissing of feet ceremony is pretty old and actually a reenacting of something Jesus himself did in the last supper. Past popes has also kissed the feet of convicted mafia guys, other refugees, other spiritual leaders and so on, it's part of the deal to show how forgiveness and humility are tenets of christianity.

>>8980246
Dead Sea Scrolls are a serious case of DLC being better than the game

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>>8980245
>>8980233

>>8980238
Shit, I played that game when I was younger.
Is it possible to emulate it? I want to beat it

Because at the end of the day, most video game stories start with you as the common man fighting against insurmountable odds.

What is the bigger odd than God himself.

Thats why every FF villain is a god or becomes one.

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>>8980173
Dude, I love that canon. every media needs more of it

>>8980002
Dunno OP but that dude on the pic was on Dark Souls 2!

>>8980260
Why did he kiss the feet of an illegal immigrant who probably already had 3 counts of rape and 4 counts of assault (of European people, of course) under his belt?

Because simply using the phrase "Christian mythology" will get you a ton of shit in the US. It's basically up to Japan to make them since a lot of devs don't want to open that can of worms, so we mainly get stuff like Bayonetta and SMT. El Shaddai is pretty fun too. Japan don't care too much about Christianity though so we're not going to see tons.

>>8980261
ok good points but I'm siding with the Pope and my beliefs in the Catholic tradition on this issue instead of a 4chan post.

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>>8980058

>>8980002
>Hey David, I'm a little short handed so could you help me out? I need 200 foreskins
>Objective: collect 200 foreskins from enemy Philistines
>0/200

Boring fetchquest bullshit is why

>>8980261
I don't give a fuck, as I've said, I'm an atheist. But if that's your point, you're wrong to have a computer and not live in the middle of the desert taking shrooms and waiting for the apocalypse, which seems to be what christians did for the better part of the first 300 years of christianity.

>>8980266
...that's explained in my post. As I've said, popes before Francis did this as well. Are you retarded?
https://cruxnow.com/church/2015/04/02/pope-francis-celebrates-holy-thursday-by-washing-prisoners-feet/

>>8980232
Agreed.
They take the concept that Angels and Demons were originally born of the same origin and run with it perfectly.

Under a thin marble and gold veneer, they are just as grotesque (and sometimes even moreso) than the Demons in the game.

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>>8980255
>>8980252
>>8980244
You people really are pathetic in how much ISIS has wormed itself into your mind.

I mean yes, Muslim extremism is a problem in Europe. It's not THE problem though, it's barely relevant. It's about as much a problem as getting shot by a toddler. People just freak out over this stuff (hence the name TERROR-ism).

The west will survive the Muslim 'onslaught' in Europe. If it can't, then it doesn't deserve to survive. It's not an existential threat AT ALL.

/pol/acks failure to understand geopolitics is only second to their over-dramatization of identity politics, similar to their SJW brethren.

>>8980002
Almost all games have Christian themes

>>8980034
Ricky it was "blade runner: the director's cut" , not "the director's cut"

Salafi Islam has global plans for the future, and it doesn't include atheists.

>>375038048
If we are to look at the historical action of people in christianity, you should just stfu and accept your martyrdom for the true faith, so you know, maybe pick your arguments better.

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>>8980264
I agree.

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>>8980273
>It's about as much a problem as getting shot by a toddler

Seriously, dude? I'm willing to concede to the rest of your post, but downplaying this much is just absurd.

>>8980273
>its barely relevant

you live under a rock

>>8980002
Bayonetta is the closest thing probably.

I would love more games that depict angels as the monstrosities they really are. Enough of this generic Renaissance shit.

>>8980041
>one of the oldest, and most influential cuckolding story in the history of the world
>pretty boring

nah fuck off.

>>8980021
The only kinds of Christians who would get outraged at Christianity in videogames are a minority. The majority of Christians don't really mind.

Because it's not very interesting and people don't like Christians in general. Think the only religion liked less right now is Islam.

>>8980005
Bioshock

>>8980270
You only have to collect 100.

The other 100 was optional.

>>8980270
>sneak into the king's chambers
>stab him
>tell his servants that he is taking a shit and not to disturb him
Who here is /blessed/?

>>8980273
>I mean yes, Muslim extremism is a problem in Europe. It's not THE problem though, it's barely relevant. It's about as much a problem as getting shot by a toddler. People just freak out over this stuff (hence the name TERROR-ism).
Are you fucking kidding me? Are you seriously this dumb? Do you not watch the news?

Shit man, there's a new terrorist attack twice a week. You can practically set your watch to it.

>>8980286
It's still bullshit. It'd be like Red Dead all over again, watching that same overlong skinning animation for every single one of them.

At the very least I hope the drop-rate is high.

>>8980268
>>8980271
>Completely correct analysis of the matter at hand
>"lol I don't care"
Come on now

>>8980289
100% droprate, I believe

>>8980227
Looks like an apostle.

>>8980279
Not him, but http://www.snopes.com/toddlers-killed-americans-terrorists/

The amount of deaths caused by terrorism, even accounting for massive long-tail events like 9/11, pales in comparison to pretty much every other cause of death. The point of terrorism is to create a durable symbol of conflict that provokes fear in the civilian population by the sheer propaganda of the deed, not by making materiel gains in a war. Killing Americans in San Bernadino doesn't make Daesh any more effective in a war, but it does help foster fear in Americans, create more fuel for an Us vs. Them narrative, and promote a vigorous response by America that will further promote their perverted Manichean worldview. Daesh even says as much in their publications and memoranda.

>>8980059
The whole reason we're fighting sand niggers is because of jews.

>>8980290
>be an atheist
>don't care about what I should do as a christian
>yet there you still are, using the internet and not spreading the word to the unfaithful so you can finally be hanged or some shit

Welp my dude, my ticket to hell has been stamped a while ago, but maybe you should go do some missionary work in Syria to make your chances better.

>>8980291
I dunno, some might be jewish.

>>8980280
>>8980288
And you guys live in a hyper-sensitive bubble world. Shit happens in the world. It's always happened.

We now have a medium that translates and pounds our brains with stupidity and senseless violence at 120 MPH every hour of every day.
It's the same reason why some an insane tweet by some obscure gender studies professor in a university halfway across the country that nobodies ever heard of is suddenly an epidemic of feminism that is threatening to erode Western civilization.

Stupid and violent people are legion. You will never escape them and they will always be there. These attacks in Europe are not a problem in the sense that they threaten to break down the fabric of society. I mean, technically speaking, a mass shooting occurs every day in the US. Why are people not freaking out about that?

I'd play the shit out of a Jesus hack and slash.

>>8980296
>Philistines
Someone isn't following the lore videos

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diablo
europa universalis
crusader kings
age of empires?
medieval themed games

I'm sure there are a few others but they would be like diablo in the sense that they just use snippets of christian themes.

>>8980296
>Philistines
>Jewish

>>8980298
Well there was Dante's Inferno.

>>8980288
Maybe once a week, around the world. It's miniscule compared to basic shit like armed robberies, and other deliberate hit and runs. People just lose their shit when the word terrorism is used. Take the stuff in London (I'm English)
>some crazy guy with mental problems killed a few people with his car and got shot for it before he could kill more
VS
>extreme Muslim terrorist attacks London, almost reaches houses of Parliament, the world is ending

Obviously the situation was awful, but people react so much stronger when the word terrorism is used. That's the whole point, to scare people.

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>>8980002
heres one

It can be difficult to handle a material that so many people (myself included) consider to be a fundemental truth in their lives, easier to use faiths/mythologies that are considered to be 'dead', like Norse or Hellenic. Shintoism seems to provide a notable execption to this idea. Also there's the fact that unless you dip into sources that aren't strictly canonnical to mainstream Judeo-Christianity (Milton, Dante, Jewish mysticism, etc) you don't quite have the larges cadre of colorful supernatural characters. Again, at least in comparison to some pagan faiths.

And as another anon brought up, if you're looking to make protagonist that reflects Christianity's core values, you wouldn't end up with your stereotypical blood-soaked action hero. Unless the game's character arc was devoted to demonstrating that he's doing wrong, which Dante's Inferno actually did pretty well. You'd more likely end up with someone like Frisk (if not quite so cheerfull and unoffensive).

>>8980295
>Make claim
>Get BTFO
>lol don't care
I'm not christian either, but that's just pathetic

>/v/ constantly bitches about the Jews
>this entire thread is about how cool the Old Testament is
no wonder why this place is shit

>>8980277
Ah, hello Ahmed. Can't wait to turn you sandy goatfuckers into glass.

>>8980024
>ever

that's a big claim kiddo

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>>8980024
leftest intellectuals have the highest kill count in the history of humanity

>>8980307
I don't see the contradiction. I think India is a shithole but some of its religions can be interesting

>>8980303
People will never realize that the very origins of our notions of terrorism are tied to the notion of Spectacle

>>8980306
Where did I get BTFO? The image you posted addresses christians. You didn't answer why you're not living like OG christians, in isolated communes separated from the herectic world waiting for the apocalypse.

>>8980308
I'm sure you'll do it from your thay basket weaving chatroom, my neckbearded friend.

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>>8980313
lol Pakistanis are hilarious when you start them on India. Everyone except young city-dwellers will literally start foaming if you imply that maybe India is doing better than them or that India doesn't really concern itself with Pakistani affairs. It's like little brother syndrome taken to a national psychopathy.

>>8980314
Fuck you

We need more games exploring religion in general, not just Christianity. A budhist game (look at Zenyatta), or something based on Egyptian Gods would be great. They all have interesting concepts that could be explored. It's just a shame people see them as fact, and not as moral teachings. To me that's like believing Aesop's fables actually happened.

>>8980305
>A well thought out response on /v/
God bless you, Anon.

>>8980310
Germans caused ww2 which ended with many more deaths than a single country.

>>8980303
>Maybe once a week, around the world. It's miniscule compared to basic shit like armed robberies, and other deliberate hit and runs.
Yeah, the world has enough issues. Why import more?

>>8980319
What?

>>8980005
bayonetta

>>8980320
because it improves our image on the geopolitical stage.

I know you guys don't understand foreign policy, but that stuff actually matters.

You people talk about Trump playing 17D chess or whatever, try working in the state department. That shit is insane how smart these people are when it comes to this stuff.

>>8980072
try again.

Rudolph's motive for the bombings, according to his April 13, 2005 statement, was political:

In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and the purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism as perfectly expressed in the song "Imagine" by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games—even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27 was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand. The plan was to force the cancellation of the games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested.

>>8980320
>Import things
>to the world

I didn't knew terrorists were fucking extraterrestrials.

You people care so much about people dying but once it's some issue caused by capitalist exploration it becomes a excuse party.

>>8980319
even if you attribute ww1 and ww2 deathtolls to the germans (which is retarded), gommunism in the 20th century still has the high score at 100million

>>8980326
>germans cause ww1 and 2
>no war no deaths

>>8980319
if germany didn't attack poland the UK would find another way to declare war on them. Also, Russia was making it's way towards germany anyways. Soviet crime has nothing to do with the war.

>>8980324
Are you SERIOUSLY implying that anyone against abortion isn't so due to christian morality? Find me a single argument against abortion that doesn't come directly from christianity.

>>8980327
>germans cause ww1
are you leretarded?

>>8980002
Was he a good king?

>>8980331
Absolutely

>>8980323
>because it improves our image on the geopolitical stage.
How does letting in a ton of criminal inclined migrants who are profiting from a war "improve our image on the geopolitical stage"? It rightfully makes us look like complete fools.

>>8980328
Nah, they did loads of bad stuff before we stepped in, nobody wanted to after WW1.

>>8980331
More importantly once he gave up his throne and left for the Darkest Dungeon he was a great help there.

>>8980297
Holy crap, a reasonable response? I'm surprised, /v/.
White folk, even in these "degenerate" days, are the majority in every European country, and the US and Canada as well.
The White race is not going extinct, and it won't until a nuclear holocaust happens. LAst I checked, white people are getting married and reproducing all of the time.
A terrorist attack or a mass shooting is a dramatic event that the media LOVES to cover every detail of. They are NOT events that occur regularly, not like other crimes, like murder of passion, sexual assault, and robberies.
The reality is much more boring.