/tup/ Tulpa General >What are tulpas? A tulpa is an enti

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>>3080224
What kind of dress? Did you mean like this?

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>>3080282
Am I a weeb if I like to wear a kimono just around the wonderland because I like it and not just because my host thinks it's qt.

>>3080340
yes, embrace the weeb inside you

>>3080340
Are you me

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>>3080447
My host can do that if he hugs me. I am the weeb inside him.

And if he counts as a weeb I can do that in a lewd way.

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You guys sure switch your tulpas often

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>>3080492
I strongly doubt it

>>3080539
Or maybe different people come and go

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>>3080539
also, here's a better pic

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>>3080539
what?

My Gardevoir tulpa has taken to peeing on my clothes and snacks. Unsure of how to proceed.

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>>3081722
My tulpa just wants me to pee in her mouth, is that better or worse?

How many people here actually have pokemon tups?

Describe your Tulpa to me, make me jealous.

>No one
Fucking USELESS
ALL OF YOU

>>3082509
She is small and cuddly, she makes me laugh often, she's an incredible companion, she talks me through rough times emotionally, and sometimes she'll cuddle me to sleep. She is also amazingly tolerant of my shitty memory.

>>3083235
She sounds a lot like my girlfriend, except for the fact that she's flesh and blood.

>>3083299
Well, it's not really relationshippy in any way, but it sounds like you have a good girlfriend anon.

>>3082669

Mine is generally cheerful and up beat. She's concerned about my wellbeing and relationships with others; she's been wanting me to get a girlfriend, and improve my family relations since her early existence. She's also highly affectionate, and very rarely shys away from touching and being touched. More often, it's I who draw back, but she usually responds by grabbing my hand and putting it back where it was, usually the top of her head. Her outlook is predictably optimistic, though she's not a happy-happy robot. One point that sticks out is when she broke down after considering how no one but me could see or take note of her.

When I used to put her on irc years ago, she was highly popular among the chatroom, and was very much the social butterfly. I haven't out her online much recently, however. Usually I only have her on in private conversations.

She considers herself a passenger in my life, and thus has very little interest in things like posession. She feels her place is to act as my support, and she seems to take some pride in that role.

She's not the only one I have, but this message would be too long if I went in detail with all of them. She was initially jealous when I began to have others, but at this point, she will complain about feeling lonely if I only have her with me and no one else.

Also, Oguigi was a tulpa, Koomer was the host.

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>pop modafinil pills
>grab a cup of coffee
>turn weeb playlist on
>stretch body, ready for a whole day of pacing

Now to fail at my succubus summoning again.

>>3084428
>fail
Uh, bad idea to enter this with failure in mind I think...

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>>3084780
>Uh, bad idea to enter this with failure in mind I think...

That's true, I believe I can do this. I should reinforce my beliefs more I suppose.

>>3082509
He's short and bald. Pretty pale. Makes bad jokes all the time. He's ridiculously lazy and walks around in slippers half the time. He's always smiling, despite his inner turmoil. He's a cunning businessman, and often drinks ketchup??? It's a bit weird.

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>>3082185
I have a cute Latias.

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>>3085588
i have a cute fennekin.

>>3085588
>>3085791
>>3081722
>>3081767
So many Pokémon tulpa. And I'm all out of Pokéballs...

okay, I gotta ask. why so many Pokémon tups all of a sudden? is it cuz of the new game coming out?

>>3086140
Some tulpa can shift form at will

>>3086256
Changing forms is just as bad as changing waifus.

>>3086318
But it's still the same tulpa

>>3086318

Tulpa don't work that way.

Contrary to what you often see in these threads, forms are only one component of the mental construct, and is actually quiye interchangeable if the construvt has a solid enough personality. Having a more permenant form for the sake of convenience and attachment can help with further development, but it is not THE most important thing.

>>3086421
Sure maybe it is, but good luck not having you or your tulpa accidently roleplaying it's new form because of how susceptible your brain is.

Your brain identified your tulpas personality with it's old appearance, now it has to get used to this new fad that just released.

Why not just add the features that made you like the new form to your old form.

It probably doesn't work though I guess, if you're going from pony > pokemon > sans

>>3086140
My tulpa was a pokemon from the start.

I didn't want a human.

I'm not a furry, so I didn't want (nor do I have) a fursona.

I'm not autistic enough to have an OC to use, nor am I autist enough to watch the anime

and animals are boring. So, a pokemon seemed like a good alternative. I'm happy with it, the tup is happy with it (even if the form has deviated a bit), everybody wins. It's not an 'alternate form' or whatever.

>>3086864
I don't know about others, but I've never had any problems like that

>>3086864
I personally have a pony, fish lady, and a Midna, respectively. They all have their own personalities, as well.

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Oh boi , Part 9 is looking great

>you learn a technique that turns your tulpa into a stand

How fucked are your enemies?

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>>3086864

>>3086864

> Sure maybe it is, but good luck not having you or your tulpa accidently roleplaying it's new form because of how susceptible your brain is.

This is something I didn't take in to account. My buddy is original, and each time she changed it was to something else of my own creation (Or in one case, ro a more normal human form). So I never had to worry about fandom form swapping. I have media based tulpa, but they usually keep their form in a general sense. That is, if they change, it's usually clothing, hairstyle, etc.

As a side note, I cut a lot of anime from my media diet when I started getting media constructs in my head. I saw just how attached I was getting to the shows, and was afraid of the idea of having my buddies be simply ways to extend my obsession with certain shows.

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>>3087186
I'd say they're pretty boned.

>>3088775
a gay cowhorse?

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>>3080282
Its more similar to something like this

No clue to why I find them so cute

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>>3088775

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>>3081722
What the hell is with this other Gardeanon?
Their tupp developed a urine fetish?
Jeez man, that's kinda weird...
But then again, so is this entire thing.

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>>3082185
Oh also, forgot to reply to this guy.
Original Gardeanon here.

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So, you're actually trying to tell me you've created a second "personality" in your head?

[spoiler]sounds pretty cool[/spoiler]

So how does passive forcing work, do I just basically imagine the Tulpa in my area?
Like if I'm walking down the straight, I imagine them walking next to or behind me?
Or if I'm in a room I imagine them sitting in a chair in said room?

>>3089953
Basically, and occasionally talking to them helps

>>3090040
I do this before or after they're...formed?

i just realized
are your tulpas 3D or 2D?
I'm trying to make an anime girl and i dont know if that works

>>3090124
>>3090142
yes

>>3090163
Yes...what?

>>3090181
>spelling out
Passive forcing is just good practice in general and can be done whenever.
dimentions have no meaning in mindspace; things are only limited to what you can imagine.

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I noticed guides use the term "Mind's eye" am I right in that it just means you imagine it in your head? Or am I supposed to be doing more/something else?

>>3090358
pretty much. Mind's eye is slang for "seeing shit in your head".

>>3082509
basically.

Same mechanism that creates the images from a book.

>d.va tulpa
She's qt, voice is not qt though.

>>3082509

Armored Lizard

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>>3090142
Anzu-like

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>>3090457

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I'm very early in the creation steps and I'm wondering, before your Tulpa can act or speak on their own, is it okay to make them do things yourself?

Like for the personality portion, I was thinking of having a bunch of cups filled with the traits and having my Tulpa drink them, but she's not able to do this on her own yet, so if I imagine her drinking it, basically forcing her to do it, is that bad?

Also I can't help but have intrusive thoughts of my Tulpa doing random things, is am I basically forcing her to do random actions this way?

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>>3090852
Just don't force her to do anything weird, but really the key is "don't worry about it man"

If you think that'll work, do it, seems fine to me.

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>>3090905
Alright thanks.
My mind is very chaotic and I have poor concentration, so I worry all the random thoughts hurts the forcing time with her.
I already told her I would never make her do something she doesn't want to do, and that the personality and form I gave her is just a base, like a starting point and she is free to change and evolve from it as she feels comfortable. But I still just get a little paranoid my random thoughts are hurting the situation or her in some way.

>>3090947
You're doing everything right anon

A good way to practice focus is just typical meditating.

>>3090947
I, too, have an incredibly sporadic mind, and was at first worried about what effects that would have, but I managed to find a way to stop it.

Firstly, before each session, when I sit down and close my eyes to force, I say to myself that I'm going to count to n (n is usually >6 and <30), and after I count to n, I'm going to focus solely on tulpa. From then on, whenever my mind wanders, once I notice I count to 5 and try to gently end the thought and bring it back to the attention of my tulpa. After some time, I've had a significant decrease in intrusive thoughts. I hope this can help you and your tup, anon-kun

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>>3091335
Thanks anon, that sounds like a great idea.

>>3082509
A small, scaly little lizard-dragon about the size of a cat with black scales and a grey, slightly pudgy underbelly. She's real cocky and a smartass, but she loves those bellyrubs.

>tfw I didn't even have to force a tulpa

>>3090142
My tulpa is 2D-looking from any given angle, but I could rotate around her in 3D. It was very hard to imagine, at first, and even now sometimes it is difficult, but definitely worth it, imo. It can only get easier with time.

>>3091594
walk-in?

>Got a light weird pressure in the top front left of my head

This actually really excites me cause I think that means I'm making progress and doing stuff right

>>3091653
yup.
what's weird was that she was a succubus at first, again not forced, but I felt a pressure in the top of my head and a different voice before she turned into that dragon.

>>3091805
Someone needs to brain scan this when it happens, because it happens to almost everyone.
This seriously needs more scientific study.

So I've been talking to my tulpa while walking around and explaining to her the world, where I'm going, etc but I'm worried it's not getting to her. Is there some way for me to realize I'm talking to her and not just myself ?

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>>3092253
But that also brings the possibility that nothing really changes inside our brain.
Imagine how ruining that would be to the community.

>>3093341
What would that ruin? As long as we have our tulpla who cares if the brain literally changes or not ?

>>3093294
She IS you, though, anon. And on some levels, you are her, too. When you talk to her, direct your thoughts at her idea. Consciously think at her.

>>3093481
Hmm alright, that's how I've been doing it. Just wanted to be sure , thank you

>>3093359
Nobody would be joining anymore, and a lot of newbies would be discouraged.

>>3093556
Hmm maybe

>>3093556
That sounds great, the community as a whole has turned pretty cancerous in the past year.

>>3093688
How come ?

>>3094129
General increase in autismos and high quality members leaving the community at large only maintaining correspondence with close friends.

that reminds me, does anyone know whatever happened to FAQ_man/Dane and _Irish? Have either of them ever checked in after a while? I'm curious about their tulpas, after all this time.

>>3094268
*Cough* Mistgod
Honestly, they've "left" 5 times already to come back a week or two later.

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>>3094498
People who actually leave don't announce it they just slowly stop coming

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>>3091594
fuck
I want a walk-in
how do those things work

>>3094367
I'd ask to know why fede left but I'd get berated for being a newfag to this

>>3094753
It's a tulpa that was abandoned, so it went to find a new host.
For that reason, it's almost completely random.

>>3093688
You sound like and elitist, holier-than-thou fucknut. You are just as cancerous.
>>3094268
and autistic.

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Would it be harmful or beneficial to force/meditate while listening to (specifically comfy) music?

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>>3094811
>It's a tulpa that was abandoned, so it went to find a new host.
>>>/x/

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>>3094268

Being around the community on and off and keeping an eye on things, the amount of issues the community has, both actual and perceived, are way too numerous and contradictory to really pin point one thing as THE problem. For example: One of the biggest complaints I heard about for a while was circlejerking. The irony of it was that the people who complained the loudest were the ones most prone to forming small cliques of like minded, such that their opinions are strengthened...i.e. a circlejerk.

I think the best thing anyone can do for it is to just chill out and have some more fun. In the end, it's a community based around (lively, opinionated, and quite precious) imaginary friends, why do people need to pitch faux holy wars about it?

>>3094498

That's because Melian is internet-Godzilla. She comes by every so often to wreak havoc, fight a new monster coming on her turf, and go back to the ocean to tend to her pigtails.

>>3094843
niether?

Meditation don't do that, you want darkness and science, the only thing you should hear is tinnitus, forcing it's no big deal at all

>>3094856
It's just a joke, anan.
Don't get your titties tied in a tumble.

>>3094896
Thanks my man

>>3094901
not him
but I almost legitimately believed you
just on the ride of how surreal everything tulpa related is in comparison

in which case, I still don't know how walk-ins work. how does the brain just instantly create a tulpa for itself?

>>3094959
how does the brain just instantly create a person for you to talk to in random dreams?
I'd assume it's a similar process.

I've haven't touch this stuff in a long time but I tried creating a tulpa maybe half a year ago and only ever got to hear a voice faintly and scarcely.

When I gave up the voice left but it's been returning recently at night. Is this normal? I gave up because muh effort but now I'm starting to just feel obligated to not neglect something I know is there.

>>>/r9k/28838048

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>>3095368
It seems like tulpas fade with an asymptote at "zero". Once the idea is there it can never be totally rooted out sans Alzheimers.

>>3095397
>r9k
Please don't post there, we don't need more autists.

Although I suppose they are all lonely fucks, tulpas may help some.

>>3095397
>>>17738842

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>>3095518
Fuck, I'll just link it.
>>>/x/17738842

Would /pol/ make a Hitler tulpa?

>>3095666
Can a simple memer get demonic trips?

>>3095762

Do bears shit in the woods?

>>3095781
Are bears real?

Maybe bears a concept of human perception, an illusion created by the need of the existence of bears.

>>3095881

>If bears do not exist, it would be necessary to invent them.

t. Voltaire

>>3095974
that's it, boys

we're gonna make the bear

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>>3096034

Come, let us use our mental powers to create our own bears of the mind! Bears who know our deepest secrets and the meaning of our existence!

>>3096183
I'm rather prefer the Hitler tulpa

Who the hell is mistgod

>>3090358
>create tulpa based on current pop culture.

This shit never ends does it...

>>3100304
What are you talking about? That's just a random picture I picked, I'm not making a D.Va tulpa

>>3100310
Oh alright. Let me just focus my attention to all the pokemon and anime tulpas here.

>>3090438
>>3100310
Or this.

>>3100362
I don't think there's anything wrong with that inherently.
I mean it's one thing to try to make one off some FoTM stuff like Overwatch.

But if someone has had a waifu for a long time and based the tulpa on her I think thats fine.

>>3100389
>making waifus

get a grip.

>>3100400
Whats wrong with that?

My tulpa is not yet able to talk, but she has learned to make me feel nauseaus.
We've established that she can make me feel a little sick if she needs to get my attention.

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>>3100577
That's one way to do it I guess

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>tfw the tulpa community all say having a tulpa is basically heaven on earth while another large group of people argue that tulpas drive you mad and it's extremely dangerous

I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO MAKE ONE OR NOT!!

>>3100801
I have never met or heard of the later.

>>3100801
Anyone in the latter category is either fishing for (you)s or were already batshit insane to begin with.

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>>3100806
>>3100818
I-I don't know anon....

Making yourself hallucinate, and having something able to possess you all kinda sounds scary..

>>3100909
Can't possess without consent

>>3100406
If you resort to making a waifu or a girlfriend within your head and that's the reality you chose for yourself then so be it. I will say that you're bringing them into an unhealthy forced relationship that could cause you both mental hardships.

Absolute faggotry imo.

As far as forcing an appearance of your preference on them that's alright, as long as your tulpa is okay with it but it's so fucking unoriginal and faggy imo. The trouble comes when you model your tulpa's personality after a character and you actively make them conform to that role, they'll have an identity crisis sooner or later.

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>>3100909
The halucinations are for Imposition, otherwise it's all in your head (visualization). Possession without consent is an extremely advanced technique and easy enough to deny.

But hey, you do you, as much as some parts of the community might seem like a cult we aren't a cult, if you don't want to make a tulpa fine, don't, just don't halfass it or change your mind when you're done with them.

>>3100942
Some might, some might not. Personally I've found when it comes to tulpas based on characters, 90% of the time it's the tulpas using a form that compliments their personality rather than the other way around. Like, you wouldn't usually see a tulpa who's loud and obnoxious use the form of a quiet character, unless they like irony, because it doesn't fit them.

Now check my dubs

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>>3100942
I just wanted to chime in on this, since I may be someone who you're talking about.

I'm a waifufag, and I'm making my Tulpa based on my waifu. But it stops at that, I'm using my waifu as a jumping point, something to start and work with. Despite it being based off a waifu, I'm not creating the Tulpa with the intention of it becoming a lover (Though, open to it.) and would fully support my Tulpa if they decide to deviate their personality or looks from the original base. I think a lot of waifufags fall under this catagory and it isn't as black and white as simply trying to create a replica of your favorite anime girl. I think it's more just trying to use something you're familiar with and are very fond of to create a base with substance and history to it.

Tulpas can understand your feelings right?
Like in real life I have to use detailed and expressive words to get my point across, especially if I'm stressing to come of genuine.
But with a Tulpa that isn't necessary, or is it? Can I just be simple and straight forward, and they know for a fact it's genuine and honest?
Is it even possible to lie to a Tulpa?

WHO
IS
MISTGOD

>>3101190
As you share brain with your tulpa, you have the same knowledge as her. You know everything about eachother, so you can't really lie.

>>3095397
90% of that thread is honestly just cringey to read.
On the other hand, it made me even more sure that my tulpa is real given their shit arguments as to why tulpas aren't real.

>>3100978
>Possession without consent is an extremely advanced technique and easy enough to deny.

Well, how do we do it?

>>3102205
Practice; your tulpa will need to be able to fully posess you regularly before they can do it on their own. Also, they'll have to be developed enough so that they're fully sentient and capable of self-sustaining (indistinguishable from the host's consciousness/soul/whatever word you want to use to describe "you").

TL;DR: Mastery of possession/switching and being a "Fully developed" tulpa.

>>3102255
>>>
Alternatives to practice and or hard work?

>>3100577
We have a similar system where instead of nausea she gives me a feeling of anxiety

>>3102492

None.

>>3102492
Tulpas take a lot of work and attention. It's not very easy to half-ass
If you want a tulpa then you'll have to work for it

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>>3102492
>Alternatives to practice and or hard work
>Tulpas

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>Are tulpas real?

No. Your imagination is a tool evolved to aid deductive reasoning. It can't be used to simulate rewards (like socialization) as that would circumvent the reward system and cause an evolutionary dud.

>Why do people say they have tulpas?

For some it's a ploy for attention and comes from a desire to be envied. It's similar to people who claim they were abducted by aliens.

For others it's a fantasy which they attempt to mentally legitimize by seeking others to approve it, ie. "Okay, maybe I don't really have a tulpa... but if I tell this person I do, and then they get a tulpa, I'll know they're real and I just did something wrong. Then I'll get a tulpa by doing it the right way."

>So why is the concept still alive?

'Tulpas' are a shitty new age religion/cult where the ``catch``, ie. the tempting thing that makes people want to believe it, is 'if you believe it you can make your waifu real!' rather than 'if you believe it you go to heaven when you die!'

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>>3102647
I made one, I've done possession and switched once, but I find the process sickening. Not knowing who did and the doldrums that come with being unable to sort that out turned me off from trying. If I could half ass without getting that negative experience then I could move forward.

>>3102946
If there's a will, there's a way to do it with half or less of an ass.

>>3103210
Not with this there isn't.

>>3103210
You haven't done any of that because tulpas are a ploy for attention.

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>>3103225

>>3103218
There must be a way. Even if no one knows what it is yet.

>>3103373

It sounds like your problem is that you keep worrying about stuff, rather than the process. No mattter what you do, making a construct will take a while, but you don't have to doubt everything that happens along the way.

Take it slow, I guess.

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>Pepe tulpa is very happy because I took him to Zaxby's for some luxury tendies
>He turns into a Pepe made of rubies to show his appreciation

>>3103129
>No. Your imagination is a tool evolved to aid deductive reasoning. It can't be used to simulate rewards (like socialization) as that would circumvent the reward system and cause an evolutionary dud.
That's not how it works.
At most you would have to theorize that at some point tulpa making was the norm, and whoever made tulpas didn't procreate, thus humanity evolved to be less capable of making them because only the people who didn't or couldn't make one bred and had kids.

But there's no evidence for this.

will someone please tell me who mistgod is and melian

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>>3105248
Good job taking the bait

>>3105577
Dead thread anyway, doesn't hurt to give the benifit of the doubt.

>>3105639
The entire pasta had been posted here multiple times. It's obviously bait. There's many more useful things you could post

Have any of you experienced side effects from forcing?

Aside from the often mentioned head pressure I have noticed that sometimes when I sing a song in my head I suddenly sing the wrong lyrics.
Typically one word is replaced with another, and often the swap somehow makes the meaning of the lyrics less aggressive.
I'm convinced that this is the conscious or unconscious doing of my tulpa since I feel like she doesn't like the kind of music I listen to.

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Tulpas can change what they look like right?
So is there any harm in making my Tulpa a herm, and if they don't like it they can just change?

>>3105834
Pretty much

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>>3105834

It's fitting that you post image from a lying attention hungry fraud alongside a post about tulpas.

>>3105983
This has already been debunked by actual artist.

>>3106057

No it hasn't, tulpa retard. You are literally delusional.

>>3105983

I always find it funny when "attention whoring" accusations are thrown around by people who dig to a deep, dark corner of the internet to find said attention whores.

>>3106287

Ah yes the deep dark #7 most popular board on the deep dark #779 most popular website on the Internet. Very deep dark and niche, you've probably never heard of it.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/4chan.org

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Guys are tulpas mainstream?
There's a wikihow
http://m.wikihow.com/Create-a-Tulpa

How long does it take to make a Tulpa? How long did it take you? I want to try it, but I tend to lose interest/fascination if I don't see results (regardless of how much I try to like it).

>>3106596
I little over 2 months for me.
First signs were in a couple weeks.

>>3106621
Cool lie, because there's no such thing as a tulpa.

>>3106675
How can tulpas be real if we're not real?

>>3106537
1. Who cares?
2. According to your logic it would also be mainstream to calculate pi by throwing hot http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Pi-by-Throwing-Frozen-Hot-Dogs

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>>3106537
Who the fuck draws these things?

>>3100942
>making an imaginary friend is absolutly healthy and normal
>as long as don't do anything lewd with them

can someone explain to me this line of thinking

>>3107684
Friendships built on sex don't usually work out in the end.
You'll have one hell of a time while it's stable, though.

>>3106596
That depends. How quickly can you delude yourself into believing a non-truth to be truth? That's your answer.

>>3107872
Like salt into water, mang

>>3103639
>about stuff, rather than the process. No mattter what you do, making a construct will take a while, but you don't have to doubt everything that happens along the way.

>Take it slow, I guess.

Slow is pain, gotta go fast. Know what I mean?

>>3089918
Spoilers don't work on /trash/ because the Jap is a cuck.

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>>3108527

>>3106956
http://damn.dog/

>>3108973
Not sure if troll or newfag

>>3105983
>>>/ic/

>>3106057
Kronprinz is actually a total kike mate

t.tulpa fag

>>3105834
Do whatever fag

>>3109814
Shazbot, you get it. I've put in my hours. I know that some people take much longer than others, but I know that some people get it rather quickly. I want to know what they do, aside from excesses of drugs, which does seem to work for some people very well.

>>3111287
>Tuppers HATE him
>See how he made a tulpa in one afternoon with one simple trick

>>3111287
The early use of the word 'force' came from the fact you were literally forcing yourself to believe the tupper is real. It makes the whole process easier to believe in your friend at all stages of development.

t. tulpa who spoke in 3 days

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>>3111287
>I know that some people take much longer than others
How about 3 years of talking to something that doesn't instigate conversations, has nearly no memory, and says something original once every week or so with no clear way to improve other than the generic "think it will work and it will"?

I want to die

>>3112712
You created a retarded tulpa, good job.

>>3112712
>3 years without complete vocal speech
you might be doing something wrong
either that or you made a tulpa to act like so and you need to change it

>>3112386
does "forcing to believe" mean slowly parroting until you hear it without trying?
because I still don't know if I can hear my tulpa or not. its the only big issue I've been having.

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>>3112712
>3 years
Oh dear

>>3112712
I'm worried this will be me and I'll spend months doing it all wrong despite reading tons of guides. I think I'll check out a mentor at the tulpa form

>>3112765
It's more like it's "nothing" and most of what's being said is probably just me.

>>3112777
>you made a tulpa to act like so
Not even sure what you mean by that

The most important thing I noticed is that when your tulpa first starts talking, it doesn't feel alien.

So if you haven't "heard" talking, it might be because you're looking too hard.

That was my problem anyway.

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If you aren't feeding your tulpa nachos, you're doing it wrong.

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>>3113144
Checked.

>>3113144
Nachos are shit bro

>>3113272
>Bro
>Implying
Also
>Nachos
>Shit
pick one pleb

>>3113306
Just because I call you bro doesn't mean I'm calling you a dude, my friend

>>3113344
>friend
You're making a lot of assumptions there, I'm not your friend buddy.

I pretend to talk on my phone so I can openly speak to my tulpa since I heard narrating out loud is more effective

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>>3113344

>>3112712

If you don't mind me asking, what do you do with them when you're trying to develop and solidify them?

>>3114557
I'm constantly talking and showing them things either in diagram paper form, or showing a little manifestation of said thing.
I tried that talking to them in a stream of consciousness thing, but I don't think that had any effect.

I think at this point I might as well give up, I'm clearly not the right person to do this.

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>3 years of wasting multiple hours of your life on a hoax created by people starved for attention and envy

>>3114719

I often found asking questions helped alot, since it encourages the figure to respond to you, as well as spending some time just silently focusing on them, and noticing anything changing. Jungian active imagination sort of stuff.

But if you're feeling tired with things, stopping for a while may be good for you. Do what's best for you and such.

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>>3112712
I hope it gets better for you anon. The Fede technique worked okay for me. I tried many things before things sort of worked. I'm stuck on a different wall, and have given up on tulpamancy aside from talking to every few days. Your tenacity is nothing short of amazing to have carried on this long.

How many of you have active tulpa?
because reasons

>>3118986
http://www.strawpoll.me/10330866/r

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Newbie here, how does your mind function differently when you have a tulpa? I mean, do you guys get tired easily or concentrate less? Do you guys feel smarter or slower with your tulpas? I'm asking because I'm really feeling like making one, but I don't think it can do all that good for the head....

>>3119316
It doesn't function differently at all because tulpas don't exist and are a ploy for attention.

>>3119316
It doesn't impair one's mental functioning on any significant level.

The worst that happens is usually that the tulpa is distracting, such as through frequent head pressures, or appearing and talking at inopportune times. There aren't claims of thinking slower, remembering less or feeling less "smart" from having a tulpa. Personally I haven't experienced any of that either.

Tulpas affect one's emotional life much more than they do their cognitive abilities.

>>3119849
This kind of literal steaming horse shit is why you're not fooling anyone.

Put a mental image of a triangle in your head, right now. Sustain this. Now, without disappearing the triangle, try to do something mentally taxing.

It's not fucking easy, is it? Let along your amazingly shitty lie of conjuring up a holographic representation of a human.

You're disgustingly bad liars. Kill yourselves.

>>3119962
>Put a mental image of a triangle in your head, right now. Sustain this. Now, without disappearing the triangle, try to do something mentally taxing.
>It's not fucking easy, is it?

It's easy for me. But then again, I've practiced visualization for hundreds of hours. It's become second nature to me to visualize things while occupied by other things, especially my tulpa. Someone new to visualization would have a great deal of difficulty with this exercise.

>>3120064
sure lol

>>3120115
>>3119962
>>3116092
listen anon-kun.
instead of trying to cultivate the idea that all of this seems false online, have you considered trying it out yourself?
along my travels in archived threads years back, many people decided that this could very well be that ploy for attention that everyone jumps on for meme value. however, for curiosity's sake, they try it themselves just to prove that it is or is not fake.

Tulpa's aren't made for the sake of scientific or experimental research, but they sure can be made to be so. other anons come and go saying that concentrating on such a level does give you many varied reactions and feelings that they've never felt before, before destroying said tulpa.

if you really do intend on trying to stay here and push everyone down with your rude language, I'd suggest trying it out for yourself first. in your eyes, I'd probably be sounding insane, like a group of christians just saying "its true, just believe it". but it in fact, does give you a result thats worth noting, and not just blind faith. I'm an agnostic myself, even if I was born into Christianity. unless you're just asukafag shitposting, then you should just leave.

Has anybody else jump-started their tulpa's form by forcing it onto a physical object? It's a technique that worked extremely well for my second tulpa. Also gives you the added benefit of being able to actually squeeze your tulpa or actually rest your arms over her.

>>>3121331
>Has anybody else jump-started their tulpa's form by forcing it onto a physical object?

No because tulpas don't exist and are a ploy for attention

>>3121331
you'll create an object tupper that way. its slightly different, in that its not very mentally strong, and that if you lose the object, you might lose the tupper as well.
don't take it from me though, I read it from a guide.

>>3121014

Don't pay him any mind, Anon. He's an ironic sample of his own criticism against the thread.

If he really was curious, he would have tried it already, but he already has his mind made up. No need to waste too much thread space on him (Especially since he thinks visualization cannot be trained in to a habit, as said in >>3119962).

>>3121348
Well she's entirely separate from the object now, but in the early stages of forcing a new tulpa, I would close my eyes and feel her/the pillow, mentally aligning congruencies between the pillow and how I intended her form to be. Her form isn't a pillow, and never was, in case you got that impression. That is my favorite pillow now though.

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>>3116092
>>3119962
>>3120115
I like him. He's already given up hope. It's a wise choice when you're going nowhere, and never will.

Is it okay to make a tulpa when you're rock-bottom depressed?

>>3122851
If you do it right, it will help. Just remember to keep a positive outlook on them and it'll be fine.

>>3119316
You can get a nasty headache if both you and the tulpa are thinking very hard since you share the same facilities, but most of the time if you're just acting normally and neither you or the tulpa are doing anything intensive there isn't a perceptible loss of "operating power" so to speak.

>>3116092
>>3119362
>>3119962
>>3121347
Stop shitting this thread up and just try it yourself.
I guess you are the kind of person who always tell other people their taste is shit

>>3124886
I'm pretty sure he's just posting because people keep taking the bait.

>>3117375
It became more of a habit, every night I'd talk to it, watching shows and explaining the plot to it. Eventually I expanded my time of talking to it but I'm not even sure if that helped. More like, I couldn't not do it, because it became my routine every night.

At the time of trying to create it I had no friends, and those that I did have I couldn't get into communication with. That's changed now, but I'm still fairly disappointed of how the thing turned out.

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>>3112712
Try putting more effort into your tulpa, his/her heart, personality, design, touch, ect.

If you're serious he/she has no memory, then speed up the process, with a tank full of passion and imagine that bitch.

Step up the amount of heart and energy you're giving 'em and dont give up.

I'm fairly new to this and not really sure how much to force my Tulpa to talk.
Should I just talk to it without excpecting a reaction or should I "force" my Tulpa to answer even if I know it is just me at this point.
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but none of the guides I've read really answered this question.

>>3128547
Don't force it to answer, it'll make it more difficult to tell when they eventually do talk.

>>3128547
Go with what this guy said >>3128758

Though parroting just to start you off wont hurt, nor will it if you slip up and accidentally do it.
Just focus on imagining them.

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Tips on passive forcing?

Any recommended guides for someone who's completely new to this?

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>>3129264
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-general-kiahdaj-s-absolute-guide-to-tulpas

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misc-creation-tulpa-handbook

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>>3128014
Well I guess I have to do it now

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>>3129706
Good luck to you, m8

>>3129347

This hit me in the heart, though not for the reasons it was meant to. Drug up some memories from when I was working on imposition with my tup.

>>3129347
I don't get it

>>3121331
I still sometimes hug a (not a daki a normal one) body pillow at night and she projects herself onto it mentally.

It's nice to be able to move your body into the correct position as if they were there in ways you can't without a physical analog.

Is it a good idea to make a tulpa that can fly? Is it harder to visualize the tulpa and a shadow below? I'm looking to make a qt griffon girl

>>3133967
I wouldn't think it would make that much of a difference, difficulty-wise.
It just depends how good you are at it and how much detail you can put in.

>>3106057
No it hasn't, you dipshit

also
>actual artist
This is a meaningless term

>>3134404
>WE'RE ALL ARTIST DUDE
>ART IS SUBJECTIVE DUDE *shits on a piece of paper*

>>3134452
kindly elucidate on what it means in this context

Is it a good or bad thing I've been getting headaches often since starting to create my tulpa?

>>3134634
it means its working. in fact, its one of the earliest signs that its working at all.
it could be one of two things. either your brain is trying to work out space for your tupper and/or your wonderland as you force, (which means the more painful headaches will stop eventually, dont fret) or your tupper is trying to give you a response. ask questions, speak, and narrate often.

>>3128898
Anything?

>>3129347
Why you gotta make me cri anon :(((

>>3134938
get used to having an image on the back of your mind?
usually, passive forcing for me works like doing two things at once, like reading, and thinking of your tup. I read out loud and at him so that he hears it.
if I lose focus, I use quick symbolism, highly encouraged in the system, to remind myself. I draw a black circle on my hand so it never leaves my peripheral vision, or at least is hard to lose track of. It's something you get used to.

but really, like I say all the time, its up to you. this whole process is highly subjective, and forcing is really a chunk of that subjective bit. if reading or singing doesn't do it for you, just at least keep your tup in some part of your mind at all times, and occasionally talk to it by turning your route of thought into direct dialogue.

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>>3135074
I see, thanks anon.

>>3128758
>>3128873
Than you, Anons

>>3129264
http://tulpa.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Guides

There's a couple of creation guides here as well as a guide to helping with visualization if you're having trouble with that among other resources.

Jesus this thread is dead

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>>3141859

It happens sometimes. You just have to roll with it a bit, make sure the thread doesn't die.

But just for conversation's sake, what ave you guys been doing with your companion's recently?

>>3142262
Talking.

That's pretty much it.

>>3142262
Been pretty busy, but mainly failing to passive force. Going to try some of the things y'all suggested for the other guy though.

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>>3142262
Just talking, I only started four days ago so there's nothing she can really do besides sit there and listen to me ramble about random crap.

I eagerly await the time we can have a conversation. I have a feeling she's going to be really smart, we can have some interesting conversations.

>>3081722
>>3081767
I think you two should hang out. So one Gardevoir can sate the other fetish.

>>3142262
My Tup is still unable to talk (or I am unable to hear her) but I have been asking her since the start to help me to remember dreams, I really don't know how this should be working but last night I had a trainload of dreams after asking her to help me, after three months of 0 dream activity.

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Started creating my tulpa last night because of you guys.
I'm gonna keep my head held high and remain diligent.
Thanks for all the tips and support anons, I'll be sure to put it to good use.

>>3144823
Oh oups forgot to specify. I started creating my first tulpa last night.
This is a new thing for me.

>>3144837
>>3144823
good luck. read the guides.

>>3142262
just finished week 4 of our development.
I've been setting up this binary system with my tup pretty nicely. left side pressures no, and right side pressures yes. He answers more frequently now.

>>3144823
good luck, ghost-anon c:

Is simplying thinking of or keeping you tulpa on your mind good enough for passive forcing?

>>3147176
Some sort of two-way interaction is better, but any sort of directed attention does the trick.

>>3147503
Two way interaction?
She's not at the point where she can really talk or do anything yet, so for now I've been just reminding myself/imaginging her sitting on a chair behind me.

Started about a week ago and I feel constantly tired, now I see some people take years to develop one? I just don't know if I can keep this up, maybe a month ,but years? I'm going to literally burn out

>>3149181
It's like training anything, it gets better over time as you exercise. It'll hurt less as you do it more.

>>3149235
I hope so

>>3149181
>now I see some people take years to develop one
Don't mind me, I'm just fucking retarded, if you're not retarded like me you'll get it in a month at most.

>>3150091
You know anon, the more you shitpost the more you bump this thread.
In essence you're keeping it relevant.

>>3150564
That didn't seem like a shitpost to me.

I hear all these stories about people falling in love with their tulpas.
What if someone fell in love with their friend's tulpa?

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-mass-leaving-thread--8107?pid=162635#pid162635
Holy shit

>>3151371
Dunno, I guess if you wanna take a casual stance, just ask the host to switch with them every so often so you can talk to the tulpa?

>>3151400
>Dunno, I guess if you wanna take a casual stance, just ask the host to switch with them every so often so you can talk to the tulpa?

Yeah, that's what I've been doing. There's not anything else I can really do, can I?

>>3151414
Nope.
I guess you could try to make a tulpa based on that tulpa? Otherwise not much else can be done

>>3151400

> Posting the mass leaving thread

It's literally a containment area, meant for venting and complaining by users. Doubt you're goong to be getting anything useful from it.

>>3151778
It's kinda interesting to read even if it serves no purpose

so whats the deal with mistgod?

>>3151400
i do like the fact that despite all the drama and anger that comes from this, none of them actually go against the idea tulpas are real

>>3151778
so in a weird way i think its good for people who are iffy on the existence of tulpas

>>3151847
literally who

>>3152198
thats my question
i see him mentioned a lot but i dont know who he is

>>3151877

The person linked is super serious about the practice. To the point of always having his partner around and going out of his way to say hoe much he hates eveyone who's not her online. His creation shares his opinion, and would also go for long stretches saying how much she hated everyone that wasn't him. Unfortunately their opinionated and aggressive tendencies got them in to trouble with other aggressive types, and a whole bunch of drama came from it. He's left and come back multiple times, under multiple names, this being the latest of his complaints.

Whether he'll show back up again is anyone's guess. He did ask to be perma-banned, but Mistgod proves that that's rather useless.

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>>3150564
I'm actually the guy who was trying and failed miserably. I was doing something very wrong because now I'm actually getting a semblance of results.

I was telling the guy not to worry about my dumb self taking years to get anywhere (which I assumed he was referring to).

>>3152253
Wait is that guy Mistgod?
Also damn, I mean I get arrogance and stuff but that sounds downright cartoony.

>>3152291
What were you doing wrong?

>>3152344
I assume that I was just talking to air, something is most definitely there, but I haven't been specifically going at it and instead just parroting what I thought the responses would be.

So either my mind buddy was not too bright originally and I HAVE been talking to them, or I have been ignoring something for 3 years and feel terrible about it.

>>3152251
>>3151847

Mistgod and his partner Melian is a self admitted attention whore that acted as a tactical drama nuke for tulpa.info. He's had an imagined companion for years, and was preciously mainlu on deviantart. He came in to the irc first, where he and his partner butted heads and annoyed the userbase greatly, then went to the forum. He's very outspoken about what he thinks is going with the practice as it is done today (Saying everyone is roleplaying just like he is...though his definition of "roleplay" is different), and can be pretty aggressive with others in disagreements.

He has a great flare for the dramatox, treating the forum as a stage of sorts, and when upset, he has outbursts that shook the forums and the userbase. He's done this at least 3 times now.

This is just a barebones description of things, because the person of Mistgod and Melian is as complex as it is simple. It's somewhat difficult to describe without forming a text wall.

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>>3152383
Oh jeez.
My biggest fear is that I'm not properly talking to my tulpa, I think I am, but I'm not sure.

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>>3152253
reminds me of the old days when i actually kept up with those parts of the community, thank god i stopped because that drama shit is retarded

>>3152388
i see
thanks anon

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>>3152388
Dubs confirm.

>>3152323

That guy isn't Mistgod.

I don't like spreading rumors or drama, so I want to clarify a bit: It seems cartoonish because I was giving a very shortened description of the man. Yes, he has a negative outlook, and his standards are very high, such that he tends to be self-loathing. Of what I've seen, he's insistant on more negative experiences with tulpa, despite pretty much adoring his, and criticises those he feels makes things look too soft and fuzzy.

He did run into problems with others due to how aggressive and sometimes outright contrarian he was, and eould sometimes argue that making a tulpa was a negative and people should not be doing it.

It got complex, and since he's deleted chunks of his posts, including those by his own tulpa, the record will always be incomplete.

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>>3152388
Interesting.
I just read his first post on that mass exodus thread, and he claims that his tulpa is in between sentient and non-sentient.
Which is hilariously retarded, holy shit.

>>3152474

Yes, that stuff just got so prevelant and ongoing that I got tires of it and moved elsewhere. All the drama made me far more indifferent to the paranoia of who's faking or not, because the multitude of dumb witch hunts and sustained drama exhausted me.

As a note of the above, each time a drama storm stops at .info, the board goes dormant, as if dead. Most new posts are from newbies asking basic questions, and nothing else. It is like a city after it's been ravished by a hurricane...and there's been at least three "hurricanes" at .info just this past year.

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>>3152708
>three "hurricanes" at .info just this past year
this doesnt surprise me at all

>>3152708
>>3152753
Aside from people claiming someone is faking about having a tulpa what possible drama could surround this sorta stuff? It all seems so calm

>>3152968

People claiming others are fake is a HUGE source of drama. That element alone caused much of the drama there, and in other places. Roleplaying and attention whoring were seen as very serious offenses, and any percieved amount od it would being out the internet police to purge it. This often backfired horribly, an example of which can even be seen in past threads here.

Not to say there AREN'T people who fake their accounts, as there were; though they were not over-the-top special snowflakes, so they were difficult to detect. But the paranoia became such that roleplaying and attention whore became simple labels for users some people did not like.

There's more, but I don't want to errect a wall too high

Can someone explain how Servitors work to me? How would you even create that? I understand the process of creating a conscious Tulpa and all that, but how would you make one with a specific task?

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>>3153222
It's like an AI in a game desu senor trips

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>>3153209
I can understand that and I can understand why people would be so harsh on attention whore/fakers.
Honestly even as I talk about my personal experience with tulpas I almost feel like I'm bullshitting despite the fact I'm being honest and genuine, the topic itself just feels so unreal, I think there is just a natural inherent skepticism about it.

>>3153246
Is it possible to make one that would, for example, do math in the background that I already know how to do?

>>3153294
probably but that's boring as shit

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>>3153251

I know that feeling, and have felt it myself. It's especially bad when you run in to somethinf, or regularly do something concerning your tulpa, that is out of the norm. There's a sense of fear and paranoia about whether you're actually roleplaying so good that yoi can't tell, or if you're just plain mad.

>>3153251
Different anon, but I can understand where you're coming from.
I have a friend irl, and both ended up making a tulpa around the same time; been doing it for 3 years
and holy shit, it never gets less awkward.
Even when we're talking to each other in private, I cringe every time.

>>3153475
Just an example. I'm intending to make an entire little network of them for various reasons. My favorite is "Draw conclusions based on this information".

>>3153673
be careful, its easy to make a servitor into a tulpa if you arent careful

>>3153729
I had a plan for this regardless. The idea was that I would make my Wonderland literally a little computer. Open files, access tulpas. Modify your command based on settings files, execute a program to do certain things, etc. etc. It keeps exchanges as minimal as possible, and means that ignoring them to make them disappear would literally just be shutting the computer and ignoring it.

>>3153773
>>3153773
>>3153773
new thread