Zootopia, other one hit image cap. http://pastebin.com/B4CdMR6f

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Found another Gerardson Judeon I hadn't seen before

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fanart of Weaver's stuff of the Belwethers

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so I guess that's a no go on the platonic handjob...

whatever, gonna shower, back in a bit.

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OP really setting that comfy mood with that image.

Good work OP.

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>>2711222
This is image.
>>2711194
I wouldn't exactly call weaver a "vigilante".
He's the hero we deserve, not exactly the hero we need, though.

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>>2711228
I'LL BE YOUR PREY TONIGHT, UGUU

>>2711228
Still one of the best pieces of art to come out of these threads

>>2711194

What's the fic called?

>>2711228
me on the bottom right

>>2711257
Weaver exposes our sins with our flesh, only through his shearings can we absolve ourselves of our misdeeds.

Only the truth matters. The naked truth.

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>>2711257
But Ms. Lynx, your pairing has already been decided...
I actually have a bit of a thing for muscular women, so I'll take any chance I can to draw them!

>>2711250
ADORABLE

>>2711250
Oh my god did we get another new artist? And they're drawing Shepard??
This is the best day.

>>2711250
NECK WADDLE
I WANT TO PINCH IT
NONSEXUALLY
OKAY MAYBE A LITTLE SEXUALLY

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>>2711228
Comfy comfy.

>>2711271
degenerate burrow-looter.

I bet you've even tried to eat a carrot before.

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So I did the thing. Funny it happened like this, since I work as a government pencil pusher anyways.

>>2711282
First sloth I've seen rolled, nice job anon!

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>>2711281
Anon, there's no need to be rude. It's late, it's comfy, it's 6AM here and I should have been asleep hours ago. Don't go bashing the poor guy.

>>2711273
Doesn't that make weaver's shavings that much more inappropriate?
And nice, I love it.
>>2711264
I thought about posting the comic about him realizing we're all furries.
>>2711258
Delete this.
After I save it, I mean.
>>2711256
You can't judge me, you're not my real dad.
>>2711282
Nice.

>>2711282
what site is that animal selecting thing on?

>>2711259
her body actually looks really fucked up in that one

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>>2711281
I said right

>>2711250
I love how you drew Shep as being kind of feminine and fluffy instead of his usual scraggly, burly self. He almost looks like a girl in this, actually. I mean that in the best way possible.

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why am I so slow at drawing, /trash/?

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>>2711265
Darude Sandstorm

Also, my fursona. r8 and pls no bully

>>2711311
Better than not being able to draw at all. And that's looking good

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>>2711281
>doesn't know his right from his left

>>2711317
Oh man, I hate song fics.

>>2711311
why am I so bad at drawing

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>>2711317

>>2711295
You can't judge us, you're not the judge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXKbZUmu1W0

>>2711282
>MostFittingFursona.png
At least we're calling it how it is now.

>>2711317
careful with those dank memes bruh, you might catch the cancer

>>2711296
https://www.randomlists.com/random-animals

>>2711329
I wish everyone would stop trying to push the mountain goats on me. I already said, they're lazy assholes, just because they're really good at rock climbing doesn't make them athletic.

>>2711317
Heh, you're one of those amateur memers that latches on to anything new huh? One day you'll develop taste.

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who wants to be my minecraft girlfriend

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>>2711311
also repostan fanfanart

>>2711321
thats true, i shouldnt complain
and thanks.

>>2711326
because you gotta keep going man

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>>2711336
Finally ran it, I guess I'm a lynx

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>>2711340
Funny you should mention that

I literally just took this

are you a wizard?

>>2711340
I-I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was an ongoing dialogue about mountain goats.

I just can't think of "you can't judge me" without thinking of that song in particular.

>>2711343
>Minecraft
Underage B&

>>2711356
FUCK YEAH! Now we finally have someone to ship with the Fit-Lynx.

>>2711350
>Liftin' Lynx is in twig mode
Disgusting

>>2711356
just in case you're interested, you get 2 rerolls. you will have to abandon lynx though.

other rules include no birds/reptile/domesticated animals

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>>2711368
Someone we can ship in a *pure* relationship at any rate.

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Cant say im too happy with it.. or that people call me one but

>Filename

>>2711377
Exactly. Two Lynxes, it's perfect. They'd go together great!

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>>2711336
I'll have to try drawing or writing something with a moose now, I guess

>>2711374
This was my reroll, I threw away marmot

>>2711336
I have rolled around 20 times. I keep getting primates, bugs, reptiles, birds, or domestic dog/cat.

Shit's getting irritating.

>>2711377
The feelings two mammals have for each other is what makes a relationship pure, not their species.

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>>2711356
Hey, let's be bros

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>>2711392
That was a joke, anon. I've already been through this dialogue a few too many times to repeat it again.

>>2711392
You sound like a naive little bunny, m8.

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>>2711397
So...what's your opinion on Giraffes?

>>2711392
By that logic, incest would be perfectly acceptable

You know, in species other than ... you know.

>>2711265
Water Under the Bridge I think
the swole-lynx is a dude though

>>2711397
Guess we are, I wanted to be an ungulate though. Oh well, cats aren't so bad.

>>2711403
good at volley ball

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>>2711368
>>2711383
>>2711377
Man you guys are so homonormative.

>weaver says its hot that i could crush him
>bb says I'm hot
>people saying i should date mountain goat
>mountain goat appears
>lynx appears, everyone says perfect
>judyposter still thinks they're my dad and can judge my OPs and tell me what I can and can't do

>>2711408
You might even say a cat is fine too.

>>2711400
Nothing wrong with being a bunny.

>>2711404
If they genuinely feel that way and there's no coercion or power imbalance, there's absolutely nothing wrong with incest, as long as they take steps to prevent pregnancy.

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>>2711304
I just get really self-conscious about being too derivative, that's all

>>2711336
>gemsbok
neat

>>2711414
>nothing wrong with being a bunny
>oh also incest is a-ok
Wow you're just a walking stereotype huh. Do you also wet yourself whenever you see a pred smiling?

>>2711403
They're alright, but canid girls are where it's at
It's that old ancestral rivalry thing, they get all competitive and it's really hot

>>2711368
>Implying I'm gay

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>>2711410
I'm starting to think that I know who you are irl Ms. Lynx, but I'm hesitant to call you on it. I will bide my time for now.

>>2711419
Not quite

Though there is moistness involved

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>>2711371
here's an attempt

forgive me my sins

>>2711317
help i can't breathe

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>>2711414
I agree. Us bunnies are pretty great.

>>2711410
I refer you to >>2711399
in which I explain what a joke is.

>>2711419
Look! Incest is only occasional! It's not normal! It's just, convenience, y'know?
And preds aren't that scary! I just don't like when they approach me is all.

>>2711428
aaand you lost me.

>>2711428
Obviously this is just some predposter trying to give bunnies a bad name. Shame on you.

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The RP in here is getting a bit out of hand i think

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>>2711417
Oh great, another antelope.

>>2711444
Nice trips.
You always seem to bitch about RP with the same image. Maybe you should let loose a little, give it a try.

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Shieet I cant hang, sapped from today's circuit.
Good night everybody!

>>2711417
Oh my god, is that Shep? He looks so small.
>"Proud Sheepdog" shirt
Ha! He would, the adorable goober.

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Is 'first request anon' still around? Pic related is starting to really make the rounds. Funny that he hates the ship so much

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>>2711448
That was the first time i said something..
Since its just funny most of the time


>I might not be who you think i am

I wonder if there's any cannibalism happens in Zootopia now

You know, my father is always telling me how tender and juicy the lamb chops are.

It makes curious about how my sheep colleague tastes like.

>>2711458
Then I apologize for the assumption. It seems a common trend to use that particular image to complain about RP. I assumed it was the same anon when I noticed the pattern.

>>2711440
I just think that every species has their own unique charm, even if it takes a bit of open-mindedness to explore it with some species, especially when there's societal taboos or instinctual fears in the way.

>>2711441
Pretty sure there's more bunnies into preds out there instead of vice versa. There's a lot more bunnies to be pred-sexual than there are preds to be bunny-sexual.

>>2711434
better
Just a little more pop on the shoulders and biceps and she's golden

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>>2711125
Drew a sleepy Judy for this anon last thread.

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Just finished drawing my Ocelot OC I rolled the other day. Be gentle, it's the first time i've used my wacom for drawing instead of signing documents.

>>2711464
No worries..
And desu - ive never seen someone say something bout it
Might be because ive missed the last few threads

>WOOOO BATTLEBORN

>also "Give it a try"
Dont think a hyena listening to Onerepublic and lost of edm would be that great talking to lol

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So now that I have a 'fursona' (were not doing that stupid 'Zoosona' thing are we) what am I supposed to do now?

>>2711477
WHAT
DESU?
I WROTE T B H

>>2711482
always easy to spot the newfag

>>2711482
Newfag detected.

>>2711469
Anon, I think you've been led astray by silly misinformation, it's a real shame that it happens so often.

>>2711480
do what i did
>>2711475
draw that shit nigga, even if you arent very good at drawing. Make it your own.

>>2711482
>doesn't know about the filter
Welcome to 4chan!

>>2711484
>>2711485
Yea.. that happens when you dont sit in the trashcan...
And up until now im quite happy with it

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>>2711475
That's pretty good, anon. You've definitely got faces down better than I have.

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>>2711480
Draw it or use it at a means of general interaction with other zooposters.

>>2711489
I didn't draw mine, but I came up with backstory and everything. Is that good enough? My prose tends to be better than my doodles.

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>>2711489
>>2711498
Maybe when I'm less tired

>>2711499
Good enough for what?
Nobody here is judging you, there's no standards you have to meet. Except for Judyposter, because they think they're my dad, shitty jokes and everything.

>>2711499
>>2711506
If y'all tell me what your peeps are like, I might draw them later.

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>>2711507
umm... you replied to Judyposter which I guess is what you've named me.

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>>2711514
WHAT A TWIST

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>>2711513
Oof, hmm, I guess I'd just base it on my real personality. Kinda of an aloof loner, the kind of person who goes to work at some big business firm every day then comes home and shitposts online, but also wishes he had more friends.

I started researching stoats since that's what I rolled.

>The stoat reputedly immobilises prey such as rabbits by mesmerising them with a "dance"

I kinda already wanted to fuck the bunny. I guess I'm destined for it now.

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>>2711445
I rolled again and got antelope! It seems that long-horned ungulate is my fate; so I went with the gembok I first got.

>>2711529
I can't tell if that implies sexy stoat dance moves to attract rabbits or sexy stoat dance moves to rape rabbits.

>>2711524
this squirrel is glad to have you here, lynx. sorry we're not anything more than anonymous mammals/otherwise.

>>2711537
Stoats are about a tenth the size of a rabbit. I don't think rape is a practical possibility.

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>>2711529
how would the ladies NOT fall for that

>>2711529
I think I saw something about too, but the word it used was "confuse" rather than "mesmerize." Still though, it's pretty neat that that actually worked well enough to become an evolutionary trait.

"Hey Frank! Why the hell aren't you starving like the rest of us? Those rabbits are way too fast!"

"Oh yeah, man, I just sorta dance for them before I go for the kill. Works every time."

>>2711534
i actually rolled away from gembok to the squirrel i take on lately. been having thoughts of rolling again for the hell of it.. it's quite autistic, but i'm not enjoying feeling so small.
if it weren't for chumpy having so kindly drawn mine, either. really shocked me.

>>2711542
Not with that attitude

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>>2711549

>>2711539
Thanks Anonymous Squirrel

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>>2711336
What?

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>>2711514

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>>2711572
Reroll that shit nigga

>>2711572
that's actually really interesting.. i know nothing about those, but i have heard the name before. i hope you keep it, but that's on you.

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>>2711572
I rolled one of those.

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>>2711547
o-oh that's ummm. oh wow. jeez.

I-I-I mean who would be dumb enough to fall for something like that!

>>2711513
It's a neat offer, but it feels cheap to me having something made for me without making it myself.

>>2711575
It's a shock, but it's true. I can assemble a collage of the replies to show my (You)'s if you like.

>>2711542
The difference isn't that huge, rabbits are pretty round and plump.

>>2711593
Guess not all bunnies go for the *big* predators.

>>2711534
I guess you have to date Weaver now. No race-mixing.

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>>2709338
No problem, dude, glad to have you.

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I should go to sleep but I don't want to.

>>2711605
But I guess they are all sluts for pred dick.

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now I remember why I stopped using this brush

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>>2711534
>>2711606
ITT: Weaver continues to seduce us all with his mysterious, antelope ways

>>2711633
Weaver?

>>2711603
Stoats used to hunt bunnies by just chasing them until they got too tired to keep out of distance, then they just leaped aboard and went to work, since stoats have hugely more stamina than rabbits. I guess the same approach could work in modern times. Though I think sexy dancing, bottomless stamina, and that sexy belly fur would be enough of a draw that it wouldn't be necessary.

>>2711633
Holy shit that looks fantastic. thank you.

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I'm wanting a picture of Nick eating cereal.

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>>2711639
>thinks I'm weaver

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>>2711605
>>2711617
N-no! I was admiring the bunny in the gif, obviously!

>>2711611
Oh, you were blood test anon, right? I'll thank you for the stream, too.

>>2711661
i think that was more asking what those little extras in your drawing were.

>>2711661
I dunno man, the style doesn't look the same but I saw that mini weaver in the top and assumed. Looks great though!

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>>2711664
I was. A HUGE load off my mind.

And no problem, was a fun night.

>>2711664
Hey, you're the one that's always going on about how pred-prey relations are unnatural. Well, there's a fascination that is 100% natural! Stoats have been hypnotizing bunnies forever, once in the wild plains of prehistory and nowadays in the strip clubs of the Nocturnal District.

>>2711653
>>2711669
>>2711674

heh, thanks!

we need more /fit/lynx and boxweaver crackshipping

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>>2711659

>>2711633
Why did you stop using that brush?

>>2711258
is there a bigger version of this? or a source video?

>>2711696
>implying it's a Crack ship

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>>2711685
When the "relationship" traditionally ends in murder, I don't think it's natural, anon.

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>>2711534
>>2711606
I'm a cheater and sore loser and rolled again. I'm happier with skunk.

>>2711718
I like it.

>>2711718
That's a pretty solid skunk drawing

>>2711715
That's the beauty of it, these days it just ends with a g-string full of singles and everyone walks away happy. It's win-win!

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>>2711704

>>2711718
well done.

>>2711715
There's more than one way for a stoat to eat a bunny.

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I never did get that beer and greasy pizza...

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i know i didn't do jack shit in the last two threads but thank you few anons for giving me more confidence

i'll try to be back tomorrow and draw things for you wonderful people at a normal time and interact with the other drawfriends. for now i am too tired.

goodnight anons

>>2711749
May the coziness of these threads be forever with you even in your slumber.

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>>2711732

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>>2711728
>>2711737
I did not need either of these images in my head.

Ugh, now it's all I'm gonna think about seeing preds in the city today.

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>>2711764

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This thread is sorely lacking Gideon/Travis.

>>2711767
And I'm sure that's such a departure from your regular train of thought.

>>2711767
Don't ruin your panties too much, predlover.

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>>2711776

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>>2711791
ey

Michael Mando is always cool in my books.

>>2711633
Do you have a tumblr or a blog or something I can follow you at?

>>2711767
Don't worry, those preds you see today?

They probably wouldn't want to think about bunnies looking at them like pieces of grass, watching every trace of their body moving beneath their clothing. Just wanting to plunge their paws down their underwear- to put notes down there of course.

So spare a thought for them, many would be as disgusted as you by such... vile actions.

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>>2711785
>>2711788
I didn't mean it like that...

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>>2711778
Gideon is busy with his bunny b̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶ lover

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>>2711796

forgive my autism, good comfy anons.

tonight has been the least comfy night i've had in the garbage, for just the dumbest reason.
the gathering of more drawfriends is awesome and all, but i feel a searing jealousy. i'm not even going to sugarcoat it saying "i want to contribute too".

don't know why i'm casting this out to the possible fire to come to me, but personally i'm glad i got it off my chest. have at thee.

>>2711803
>Indignant what.webm
That's not what she's saying in that webm. Though I think what she's actually saying is more accurate regarding your true thoughts on the matter.

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>>2711806
People hate it when I remind them that Heath Ledger got F'd in the A on a mountain.

>>2711816
Aww buddy we all feel shitty for shitty reasons sometimes. As long as you recognize that it's stupid and don't let it actually lead you to flipping out at somebody it's all good.

>>2711816
So contribute.

We learn by doing. You could sketch, you could do greentext, you could lewd the Jude.

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>>2711825

>>2711816
It happens, at least you recognize that it's irrational, but it's not like the drawfags got good magically overnight. It's not like they got lucky. They had to work hard to gain that talent, so be jealous if you have to but channel that into practicing and learning.

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>>2711708
I love the sense of depth it can convey with the varying opacity, but I feel it makes everything too messy, and it plays into my inability to know when to stop detailing. I'm trying to move toward a more minimalist, purposeful techniques than "scribble until something comes out".

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>>2711818
I actually generally have no clue what's being said in any of the webms I use. I just go off general feeling anon.

>>2711816
it always sucks feeling like you're outside an "in" group that's right in front of your eyes, but we're all friends here.

>>2711816
I know how it feels man, I spent hours writing a short pointless story about Nick and Judy snuggling and got a single comment in response. Weaver waggles his dick in the general direction of a stylus and pure magic comes out and he gets a hundred responses.

But I can look at it like that or I can look at the - let's see - 119 unique viewers to the story, and assume that maybe one in ten got a smile out of it, then hey I made a dozen people happy. If I tried to achieve that the normal way my hand would have cramped up around the sixth handjob.

Contribute how you can, and take the little wins. We can't all be Weaver.

>>2711816
Jealousy can be a good thing if it drives you to better yourself.

http://drawabox.com/

>>2711816
It happens anon, you feel isolated because you cannot enjoy the fun with the drawfag, you feel incompetent.

It's inevitable anon, you cannot have all the fun in the world

>>2711829
>>2711831
And I guess we get help by asking for it...

I have a burning want to start dabbling in quick sketches, digitally, with a mouse so I can just make something when I'm bored/inspired. Any recommendations on a tool a bit more advanced than... paint?

>>2711841
well aware that it takes work, good anon. i'm aching to take a stab at it, knowing full well that it's going to suck absolute ass early on.

>>2711849
glad you say so, anon.. i haven't felt like i had friends this communicative in way too long.

>>2711849
The "in" group seems kinda gay so I'm happy being safely outside.

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Carb loading breakfast! Do you think they eat eggs in Zootopia?
XOXO

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>>2711873
It's at most 40% sincerely gay. The rest is just playing around.

>>2711871
Well, there's always photoshop cs2, even if it's old. They had to take down the activation servers a while back, so it effectively got released for free.

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Threads last night. Out of control
-J

>>2711798
I'm flattered! kingsquee.tumblr.com

>>2711871
Theres also Gimp

>>2711871
It is very hard to draw using a mouse. If you don't have access to a tablet, you'd likely do better scribbling on paper and photographing or scanning it.

As for software more advanced than paint, I've always been a fan of GIMP although it can be a little difficult to figure out. It is free though.

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>>2711843
That makes sense. The reason I enjoy using a messier brush like that is so that i can push and pull lines more fluidly since I find it a little hard to lay down clean lines accurately but hate inking. It makes it feel more like a paint brush even though I'm using it as my main sketching brush.

But like I said, I only recently started using that brush and I've just accepted it's going to be a little messier.

>>2711336
>a brown bear
>I am a slav and my name's diminutive form literally means "bear"

It fucking knows.

>>2711871
Krita and Firealpaca/Medibang are pretty good

>>2711925
i actually don't have access to a tablet. but i'm very poised to buying one damn soon. although i have no clue what i'm looking for.

>>2711940
Just go with the cheapest wacom tablet you can find.

>>2711336

>First roll of Elephant
Fucking boring.
>Second Roll of Musk Ox
Pretty good, at least. I've always liked an Ox or yak.

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>>2711925
I feel so guilty. I've had a drawing tablet for months and it just collects dust.

I really should figure out how to draw but I don't understand how people get their strokes to look so clean. Mine always come out jaggedy and bleh.

>>2711940
Can't help you there I'm afraid. I got an old Wacom one years ago, but I don't know what's come out since then and what is considered 'entry level' nowadays.

>>2711952
i'll take if off your hands.

nah i'm kidding, get on this anger-fueled inspiration with me, anon.

>>2711952
Practice. Your lines aren't going to be great the first time around, they never are. but you need to push through that. Long, quick, curved strokes and don't keep the movement at just your fingers, use your arm.

>>2711952
Practice and using a stabilizer setting if the program you have has one. Also, draw larger than you need to, since shrinking it down will reduce the look of wobbly lines.

>>2711952
You and me both. I might have lost the stylus for mine while moving too. I'll find out as soon as I unpack everything but I sure don't remember packing it.

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>>2711952
I fucking know that feel, bro.

I kind of resort to stopping my drawings at the "sketchy as fuck" stage, because any time I try to actually have some sort of lineart, I feel like I lose the whole energy of the sketch and have shitty-looking lines anyway.

>>2711982
This anon speaks truth. Use your whole arm, not just your fingers or wrists. If your arm doesn't feel like hell after drawing you're doing it wrong.

>>2711871
I recommend Krita if you have a tablet, and if you have no money like me.

Before that though, if you really think your skill is lacking, and really want to improve fundamentals, then you should stick with pencil and paper.

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>>217200

And thats fine anon! 'Sketchy-as-fuck' drawings as you have put it can work really well when executed properly.

>that file name
>MFW

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>>2711952
What kind of tablet do you have?
-J

>>2711940
I use a Huion 610 because it's a lot cheaper than Wacom Tablets of similar size, but the drivers that run them can be wonky. Wacom Intuos draw is a good starting place if you want to go that way though.

For drawing programs my personal favorite is Clip Studio Paint because it's super customizable but it may be intimidating for people not used to picking up new software very easy. If you know how to use Photoshop at all though it shouldn't be too hard to pick up. Sai Painter is a favorite of a lot of artists but it's abandonware and a bit more expensive than Clip Studio Paint. There's also Photoshop but despite being the standard for high end artists I don't know if I would really recommend it since it's not really meant for drawing even if it's used that way. There are so many little quality of life things that make other programs more appealing in my opinion. If money isn't a factor or you're going to pirate one anyway I'd suggest Clip Studio Paint.

>>2712042

Meant to reply to >>2712000
Check em'

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>>2712051
Wacom Bamboo.

>>2712017
>>2711950
>>2711935
>>2711908
>>2711902
>>2712055
I'm almost wanting to say that you're treating this attentionfag squirrel way too nicely.

Thank you all for the wise words and advice. I hope to be throwing some doodles on here in the close future while there's still a community.

>>2712051
Cintiq humngous9000

>>2712112
Keep drawing, never stop.

>>2711952
If you're just learning to draw, don't start with a tablet. It's like drawing on glass. Shit's way harder.

Most people you see doing digital work turn on tons of stabilizer-y shit to compensate. I'd recommend against that, as it doesn't force you to improve your motor skills, but keep in mind it IS harder than paper, Ctrl+Z be damned.

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>>2712112
YOU CAN DO IT

>>2712171
this is really going to make me cry... fucking hell.
thank you.

>>2712150
I don't think it's that bad of an idea to start with a tablet. The biggest hurdle in learning to draw is gaining the motivation to draw every day even when you don't really feel like it. And the skills using a tablet transfer to pen and pencil.

As for stabilization, turning on even high stabilization isn't going to make your lines look less shitty when you draw them. The only real reason that stabilization exists is because tablets are so 1 to 1 in their transfer of information to the computer you end up getting jitter that wouldn't be noticeable on paper using a pen.

The only time stabilization would make a real difference is in inking if you use that technique where you take long but slow strokes over your lines. For the purpose of just normal drawing maxed stabilizer is just going to annoy you when you're trying to draw.

>>2712000
I don't particularly care for the couple... but that's really quite cute.

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I've been screwing around with watching 3D Blu-rays with Red/Blue glasses in VLC, and it made me think; how many of you are going to get the 3D blu-ray of Zootopia, and how many of you actually have the equipment to watch it on a 3D TV?

>>2712222
I've always thought 3D was dumb. Not counting VR stuff, that shit's cool.

>>2712222
we have a 3D BD player, with a 3D tv to boot. But I honestly don't care for it. I pre-ordered the regular BD.

I WANT TO STICK IT IN JUDY'S FOXHOLE!

>>2712222
3D has always been a meme, a pretty shit one at that.

>>2712222
I have the setup to watch it, but haven't used more than the month or so after I got it. I just came with the tv I got.

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>>2712245

>>2712112
An important part of this is attitude.

You listened to advice, you're willing to learn, and you didn't just shut things down or run off. On the internet, that's not always common.

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My animal is a Springbok

>>2712243
>>2712270
I find this funny, back when 3D was in full meme mode I really wanted a setup but couldn't afford it, the idea of owning a setup and not using it is surprising

>>2712209
Paper has resistance though. It has an actual feedback loop. Tablet does not. It's like saying you can learn to rollerblade after learning to ice skate. You can, but why.

I value motor control over any advantages the tablet brings me. Learning to draw was hard enough, I can't imagine my babbyart self overcoming the slip and slide of the tablet's surface as well. It'd just be another obstacle I'd try to fill in with technological 'solutions'.

In short, it's more finnicky and more powerful than a stick of charcoal and a slab of regurgitated tree, and I'd argue you should wring as much skill out of the simpler medium before moving on to the persnickity one.

>>2712290
I thought it would be cool, but it wears off really quickly. Games in 3D were better, but you forget that it's even on after about half an hour. It could just be me, though.

>>2712222
I can't stand 3D. Always kinda ruins the colors, to me, and I've never seen a single film where the 3D brought anything to the story.

>>2712297
I understand what you're getting at but the important thing is to find motivation in drawing. Being part of a community like contributing in a general makes it a lot easier to get in the habit of making art. There are advantages and disadvantages of drawing in both mediums but I don't think the difference is big enough to overcome the hard part which is the motivation to draw in the first place.

Also Wacom tablets are textured so that they do give a little bit of resistance while drawing. I know it's not the same and learning to draw while looking at a screen is difficult but it's not like learning to draw on a tablet isn't going to give you transferable skills when drawing in a sketchbook. I do both regularly.

>>2712322
>Always kinda ruins the colors
Even the theater 3D they have now? Anaglyph sure by the theater stuff just dims things, the colors look fine (at least to me)

>>2712322
I like the depth, but I hate how it comes at the cost of only being able to focus properly on one part of the scene. Looking away from the focal point seems to cause everything to get out of whack.

Feeling like I could reach out and touch the bun isn't worth losing my ability to explore with my eyes.

>>2712334
I've had an intruos3 and a cintiq. The intruos didn't have texture worth a damn. Maybe they've changed things?

Regarding community: get a scanner. You'll want one anyway.

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>Zootopia thread
>Expecting nothing more than a steaming pile of rule 34 shit
>Intelligent discussion about drawing, what you want to do with your art and how to become successful

Very nice /trash/, very nice

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Can't sleep, so decided to dink around on my tablet even though I shouldn't with a sharp nib. I've had a Wacom Bamboo Fun Pen and Touch for 6 or 7 years and it still works just as well as the day I got it, but I'm looking to upgrade to a Cintiq when I get the funds.

>>2712334
This is why I love Wacom over most other tablets, some have the same texture but most are far too smooth and the pen slips around too much for me to feel really comfortable with.


As for digital compared to traditional, I think it's important for any artist in this day and age to be familiar with both. You can have a preference but not at least being capable of both is a huge minus that you're gonna have compared to all the other artists online. Learn initially through traditional art and once you have a basic grasp on the fundamentals and know that you want to pursue more in art invest in a good quality tablet, don't skimp on it, you're gonna use it a lot! The initial disconnect (at least for the non-screen tablets since I can't really speak for the screen ones) is jarring. It takes quite some time to get used to not watching your hand but it does get better, especially if you do mechanical practice. What I've found is that when working in one form for a long stretch of time, I can switch to the other form and have learned a lot for both. The biggest problem I have with digital is that (for whatever reason) I build bad habbits a lot easier in digital, so I have to constantly be aware of any and try to actively fix them.

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>>2712279
Brilliant.

>>2712361
I don't know really, I used a wacom bamboo from 4 or so years ago when I was first really getting into drawing regularly and it had some texture. I used it so much that by the time I bought a new one the texture was completely rubbed off. The huion tablet I use now doesn't have any texture but I never found the texture to be that appealing anyway. As for scanning stuff, that's such a pain, I've always hated scanning things in.

>>2712389
Its interesting, your digital art is a lot 'cleaner' but the shading always looks 'fake'. The pen and paper art obviously is more messy but the shading seems to give the images more depth

>>2712383
It's the whole trash thing. Everyone who doesn't fit in ends up here. Including artists and potential artists who get fed up with the mods elsewhere.

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>>2712389
(continued)
The best ways to learn are through figure drawing, still life's, and perspective drawings. If you can learn to do all of those things then there's not really anything you can't draw or at least use the skills from those to learn how to draw it. I'm still far from being proficient in any of those things, but I like to think I have a basic understanding and it helps when you have to solve a problem and instead of just trying random stuff over and over again you can just identify the problem and understand what techniques to use to fix it.

I'd also recommend that, at least when you're starting out, construct everything, even the most basic of shapes! You might think, "Oh this characters eyes are very simple I'll just draw what I think they should look like" but I urge you to construct the full form of the eyes and sockets and everything! JUST CONSTRUCT IT ALL. Eventually you'll get to a point where you can get away with shortcuts, and I do it myself pretty often especially in sketches, but I really shouldn't!!!

>>2712409
I know what you mean, but I think it tends to be that because the shading's smoother digitally there's a lot of space that looks very similar, the sketch traditional shading makes it appear to have more depth than it really does, if that makes sense. Still something I need to work one though!

>>2712398
*liver explodes*

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So this is what I can scribble in the little amount of time before I need to go to bed. I always pictured my squirrel as something out of animal crossing.

>>2712171
Thank you again for this, I'm probably going to keep it up on one of my monitors from here on.

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>>2711336
Time to apply for a position as a librarian.

>>2712454
No primeapes anon, free reroll

>>2712449
You got the style down, reminds me I've been neglecting my town, lol.

>>2712435
I'll definitely second constructing everything. I feel like I wasted a lot of time in retrospect because I thought that doing that stuff was a waste of time at one point. It took me way too long to realize that even artists who don't use construction lines can basically see them without drawing them because they used them so much when learning that it's become second nature.

I also think that some lessons are easier to learn at different times for people though. At the time I think I was just really not ready to learn that way yet. But if you want to actually learn how to do things you can't delude yourself into thinking that you are going to be able to eyeball things especially when you're starting out.

tfw weaver has done fucking none of this advice

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>>2712472
>mfw first feedback get
As have I..

>>2712480
Definitely, you can buy a how to draw manga book, follow the directions perfectly and draw whatever character it tells you to make but you're still not a mangaka. The issue is not the final product, but rather how you got there, and whether or not you can do it consistently, so learning proper construction is a huge help in being able to consistently make the shapes you want. I definitely used shortcuts and symbols way too much for the longest time and even though I've been drawing my whole life I only really started understanding it a few years ago. I hated practicing perspective before, but now I enjoy it a lot because it's a challenge that I have to actually think about instead of just feeling it out intuitively. My current struggle is rendering things, and it doesn't help that I don't really have software like SAI or Corell Painter that work really well for it.

>>2712517
Don't let weaver fool you. He's a better artist than he lets on.

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>>2712517
The weaver is a special little snowflake

>>2712517
Just because the style Weaver posts in is incredibly simple and stylized doesn't mean he doesn't have the knowledge and talent. It's subtle but you can tell that there's an understanding of what he's doing that shows through. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing some unstylized work of his to see how it compares.

>fics that explain their name changes in parentheses immediately after

If the joke isn't clear enough without the explanation, then you probably should just rewrite it, not explain it in such a way that jerks the reader out of the story.

And 9/10 times its pretty obvious what you are referencing.

>>2712583
I always get a little unreasonably irritated whenever someone mentions specifically what a character is listening to--because in almost all cases it's just the author showing off their shitty taste in music.

>>2712533
I'm at the point where I have to unlearn a lot of things still and practice different things than I'm used to doing. It's challenging to keep motivated sometimes.

At the risk of sounding like a huge shill this thread if you want a nice program for rendering try Clip Studio Paint Pro. It's really not that expensive, it's 50 bucks right now and it goes on sale for like 20 sometimes. It's half way between Sai and Photoshop, you get the nice brush engine of Sai and the ability to manipulate things only slightly worse than photoshop. The best part though is how flexible the shortcuts are. You can bind everything to a key and even multiple things to the same key. I can scroll through several different erasers just by tapping E a few times.

>>2712583
Are you talking about character nicknames

>>2712609
That too. I mean if its like mainstream pop, I take it as just trying to reference real life stuff.
But if you get someone like Judy listening to hipster alt rock, then thats more annoying.

What I hate though is when they put all the lyrics to a song in a story. Especially if its not actually really relevant. Im here to read a story, not read a song.

>>2712568
>>2712517
I'm honestly not even sure that Weaver can draw in a different style than the one he draws in. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good artist at what he does, but his entire artstyle was built around the ability to draw expressively, yet extremely quickly, for the whole quest/drawfag format on 4chan and other imageboards.

I'd be curious to see him try and draw something more realistic, though.

>>2712620
Nah, in this case musician name changes. Like to quote the one I'm reading right now
>Kendra Llama (Kendra Lamar), Notorious P.I.G. (Notorious B.I.G.), Sleigher (Slayer), Mews (Muse), Mammalica (Metallica), and Ewe2 (U2) among others.

>>2712629
I agree completely and it's for this reason that I'm still flabbergasted that "songfics" exist.

>>2712639
We're reaching levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible

>>2712636
I mean I suppose it depends on how much hes practiced, but I'm sure he can draw in other styles.

An example of an artist who can actually draw decently despite what he normally puts out is actually Dobson. I've seen art he did in college, and some of his sketches without any coloring, and hes actually not a completely terrible artist. His main issue is he is terrible at coloring.

>>2712639
these aren't that bad. I have read stories where they gave random names to bands it didn't matter if it fits or not.

>>2712649
The point isn't that they changed the names it's that they literally documented the original name right next to the changed one

Not only is it utterly unnecessary but it's also really jarring and just fucks with immersion

>>2712647
That quote was in reference to Nick's CD collection btw.
>>2712649
Its not so much the animal name changes that bug me. I don't mind that at all, and we even got that in the movie itself. Guns and Rodents, Fur Fighters, etc.

Its just the fact that the author just felt the need to clarify what each band's real life equivalent was right after in bold in parentheses.
A: Its obvious what he meant, and B:Its really jarring.

>>2712636
I would agree with you if it weren't for a few things, like the way he draws bodies that makes me think he has at least a basic understanding of form construction that wouldn't be super apparent to someone who hadn't learned it already. Maybe it's just a hunch, idk.

>>2712656
ah that yes I got nothing good too say about that so I leave it at that

>>2712636
I heard this story about how a bunch of artists on /tg/ went on some strike or something stupid. But because Weaver expresses himself so much through drawing he couldn't stop himself from going and drawing in random /tg/ threads anyway. In order to get away with it though he drew in a completely different style in order to not get caught. He totally has the capability to draw in other styles but why would he want to?

For Weaver his art is kind of a means to an end. He doesn't enjoy drawing things, he enjoys telling stories through images. If you look at any given weaver image it's always saying something, he doesn't just draw a picture of nick, he draws a picture of nick doing something silly. Or interacting with another character. Or making a joke at the thread's expense. It's never to just draw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY3S3tO7frM

What would the animal version of David Attenbourgh be like without any wild animals to narrate about?

>>2712679
>Ten breathtaking moments from Life
>The thumbnail for the video is a kangaroo kicking another one in the junk

Oh boy

>>2712679
Maybe about non sentient creatures like fish, insects and who knows what else.

>>2712679
Just people watching, he'd sit on a bench and talk shit about different mammals walking by and occasionally mention some scientific shit.

>>2712670
Different styles were more like different brushes. He used to do that for drawfagging on /b/ too, between EFG, boxdog, chain chomp chan, etc.

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my foxhole hurts

>>2712679
Probably just sea life.

>>2712702
that would be amazing.
A herd off zebra are galloping through manestreet on their way to clawbucks for over priced coffee and pasteries.

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I think I'm slowly getting better at faces. Maybe.

>>2712703
No, you can still tell those images are from Weaver. He drew in a style and didn't get caught. I forget where I heard the story, it may have been a blog post from him a long time ago on his tumblr.

>>2712279
... Kev? What the Hell are you doing here?

>>2712720
But they are stopped by a ferocious lion who fines them for littering. As the Lion has its fill off handing out bills the herd off zebra's is on its again in its forever lasting treck from hipster location to hipster location.

>>2712670
This is actually a thing that's bothering me a lot. I learned to draw because I wanted to express ideas. After working so much on learning to do things, I've forgotten how to have ideas - or at least ones that aren't just for solving problems.

I'd love to know what route Weaver took in training his mind.

>>2712740
Holy shit dude, same. I used to have tons of ideas and could come up with a whole idea in minutes, now that I actually know how to act on them I can't come up with a decent concept to save my life lol.

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>>2712732
SHH DONT SCARE HIM OFF

>>2712740
You should ask him, I'd really like to know that too because I feel very similar. I've started to read this book about creativity because I feel stifled in the same way.

>>2712748
thats why I prefer writing though my problem is mostly getting the start. after that it just flows though I have a problem with spelling being not native english

>>2712740
Weaver like all artists who can draw a lot has his muse firmly planted in crippling depression.

You wanna draw good and have ideas? Go work a job that makes you want to kill yourself.

Fuck, that's been what's helping me with my story ideas.

>>2712772
so true. so painfully true

>>2712732
same thing you are, presumably

>>2712772
Nah, I have horrible depression and I'm still pretty sparse on ideas. I used to take tons and tons of requests just so I didn't have to think of ideas.

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>>2712785
Settled in a comfy bed in a comfy thread? Noice.

Here, have a girl in gingham.

>>2712758
I'll try to think up a way to word it that doesn't sound incomprehensible.

>>2712748
>>2712766
It feels kind of like, if the dots are nearby, I can draw lines between them. But if the dots are too far away, I can't work with it. I don't know how to create new dots, you know?

>>2712772
Don't worry, I've have my fair share of that. Doesn't help much.

>>2712797
that drawing is one of the many reasons I've started drawing buns.

>>2712789
>Nah, I have horrible depression

You're not feeling what I'm saying.

Just being depressed isn't enough. You need a job that beats and beats and beats on your mind until your brain as a defense mechanism starts having ideas.

If you're not having ideas, then you clearly aren't depressed enough.

what an absolute ledge an the archbishop of bantabury

>>2712797
>gingham
IT'S PLAID
GIRLS IN PLAID ARE HELLA RAD

>>2712785
That explains the tissues.

top, lets smash it

>>2712809
Most of my friends should be poets, then.

>>2712772
>tfw literally all great artists were insane or depressed in some way
>tfw you're kinda happy with your life
>tfw you will never be the next Vincent Van Gogh Tchaikovsky or Brian Wilson

It hurts. Not enough to make me a better artists, but it kinda hurts. A bit.

>>2712807
Cool when you decide to ask him could you do it through tumblr? I'd like to not miss it and if he replies on Tumblr I'll be able to find it.

>>2712809
No you don't understand. I've been in the position where I was working 11 hour shifts and on my lunch breaks do you know what I did? Practiced anatomy.

>>2712816
Gingham's the material, plaid is the design.

>>2712827
lol. I work in a supermarket behind the counter and while I help customers I get ideas. it helps that I am capable to do my work in sleep so that I don't have to think too much on what I am doing.

>>2712832
Someone pointed out some of the highest-quality work in Van Gogh's life came when he received what passed for mental health treatment in his time. Starry Night? It was when he was more or less stable.

It's okay to put yourself under pressure to work, but it doesn't have to be soul-crushing. Become friends with other artists. Take challenges. Enroll in an art class that DEMANDS a submission every week.

Take a challenge - don't take a beating.

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>>2712827
That's a naive way of looking at things.

Suffering is fuel. How one uses that fuel is dependent on themselves as a way to think.

Some of them MAY actually be poets or have artistic talents but either can't channel them, aren't suffering as much as you think or don't want to show them.

>>2712856
Well, you're in Medicine then? Then that's the crux. You're putting that job over your art.

>>2712860
You're right, the design looks more like plaid, but I'm not convinced she's wearing gingham fabric.

Interesting wrinkle: The thin check pattern you see on gingham has been transmuted to mean "gingham" in America and other countries. Even when they're wearing cotton, if it "looks like a picnic table," it's casually referred to as "gingham print."

And that's not even touching on tartan ...

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>>2712873
I like this anon, we could learn a lot from his philosophy.

Maybe we should make camps for this!

>>2712873
No, I'm not on medicine. I'm more afraid of medicine than I am of suicidal thoughts honestly. I've gotten better at dealing with it as I've gotten older and I've learned to cope with my depression by channeling it into projects or sleeping depending on what the particular issue is. In fact, my art probably fuels a lot of my depression.

>>2712873
I dunno. I think the whole "Art is suffering" thing is kind of BS.
Not that art can't come from suffering, but the idea that suffering is the only emotion that creates art is dumb. Art comes from all sorts of emotions, happy, sad, angry, whatever.

This thread's taking a nose dive again somebody pull us out of the death spin

>>2712740
I get a lot of ideas when I'm at my job.
Being away from home means I no longer have access to the things I use to keep myself entertained and I'm not in an extremely familiar place so there's a bunch of new input to reflect on and very little to distract me from my thoughts.

>>2712873
Uhhh, that's not a healthy message. Understanding what you want out of your art is the first step. I want to make a career out of it and I still don't seek perfection. I want to be able to convey my ideas and have people enjoy them, that's it, and I can achieve that while also living a balanced enjoyable lifestyle. Maybe if you want to be a master level painter and establish concepts like fuckin Davinci then you'll have to put art above your quality of life, but other than that if you're making art a priority when it shouldn't be you're only gonna make yourself hate it.

>>2712886
True, it could be flannel.

Either way, it looks comfy, and that hits my fetish.

>>2712864
I've noticed that with doing chores outside as well. Maybe there's a connection to the idea of 'flow' in psychology while performing a task you usually don't? Stuff from the task feeds your relaxed mind?

I wonder if doing lots of different tasks in this semi-zoned out way would make one have more ideas...

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>>2711804
But Gideon is happily in a committed relationship with his husband Travis.

>>2712873
though suffering can be dangerous as well. I had a point that my creativity was really flowing. I wrote like 3000 words a day and one day that crashed. my dad got a heart attack and my little niece had stopped breathing for a few seconds. when the chaos stopped I noticed that my muse was death, the story I was writing I deleted because any idea I had for it no longer sounded great to me and it has been so for 5 years. only earlier this year it has started again to come back. thugh I can't do the 3000 words a day I used to write but give it a few more years and I might get back to it.

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As riveting as this discussion has been, I've stayed up way longer than I meant to by several hours.

Goodnight everyone.

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>>2712908
PORN BEFORE NOON IT IS, GOVNAH

>>2712936
Well

Damn

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>>2712933
Yeah, somehow it's already 6am. Porn's coming in, time to nap.

G'night anons. Thanks for being cool.

>>2712924
It looks like he adopted another species.

>>2712952
I woke up way too early this morning. Like 5.