Star Fox thread Lesbians is Canon

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Anyone planning on participating in this years' Krystal Appreciation Month?

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I haven't really seen anything saying there Lesbians but I wouldn't mind if they were.

pic unrelated to what i said but it's a Star Fox pic and it's still hot.

where does it say it's canon?

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>>10880846

Nowhere but because it's the lost sequel to the invalidated canon that is the original SNES game, it technically makes them, or rather they can be salvaged from it.

This would mean the series would have four girls total out of the eight or so guys there is;
>Krystal
>Katt
>Miyu
>Fay

This is provided Miyu and Fay are brought in. This also would be six girls but because it was confirmed that Command isnt canon at all, Amanda and Lucy would have to be reintroduced.

>>10880846
In the heads of the series' loyal fans

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stay alive

>>10889523
why she barefoot

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>>10881311
when will fara ever get recognized?

>>10881311
>Not just allowing some degree of player choice and allowing fox to romance one of those four
>Or just start a harem

>>10893302
kek

>>10893302
that was unexpected

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Can this be the official Star Fox uniform?

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>>10896577
And Star Wolf too

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>>10896587
Remove gayshit

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>>10896614
No.

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>>10896587
>>10896686
hey, not-shit sssonic2 art

>>10897553
That's acstlu.

>>10897591
The bronie.

>>10875941
The cringe.

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>>10899445

Only way I see Kursed is if she's some alternate dimension incarnation. Like how Plutia is supposed to be the alternate dimensional incarnation of Neptune.

In other words a totally separate character

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>>10901701
StarFox should be turned into a comic or anime. I have lost nearly all faith in a successful game.

>Panther Caroso
>Wanted for Crimes and Misdemeanors before Star Wolf
>Recent member of Star Wolf
>Kind of a dope
>Bounty set at 20,000

>Leon Powalski
>Very dangerous and loyal ally of Wolf
>Implied to be an assassin
>Capturing Leon alive could bring Wolf to you
>Bounty set at a meager 10,000
Why is this?

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Find a flaw

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>>10903277

Let's see;

>Not canon Nintendo Power comic was a fuckfest, Fox and the others for some reason were space pirates, was also mentally fucked up. Fara was a major blank slate no matter what some hipsters may say.
>Farewell beloved Falco, a comic that takes place after 64 and before Adventures was actually pretty damn good. Obviously explains why Falco was absent before Fox went to Sauria. For unknown reasons the US never got this with their copies of Adventures.

You also have two fan comics that are involving Adventures entirely. One IMO is pretty damn good so far, and the other being from that edgelord Blackbear.

Archie even wishes to make a comic, but Nintendo is too up the ass about letting them make any comics of their IPs. As if the two art pieces of Star Fox from one of the artists wasnt a blatant hint. One was what would be a cover art featuring everyone but those in Command, and the other is Tails hitting on Krystal.

Fuck, even the two porn comics Star Fox Solace and the one that uses the Goodbye Fox ending in Command are good. Because unlike most porn comics, it's not over the top and is surprisingly written well.

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>>10903904

Isnt it obvious? :^)

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>>10905458
>Archie even wishes to make a comic
Archie is gonna fucking die now that they lost sonic
Fuck them, its because of them that we lose motherfucking Snivley

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>>10905692

I dont know what caused that to happen, but I heard Penders was solely responsible. Speaking of, holy fucking shit how the fuck can you make Sonic look ugly as shit?

>>10905775
>I dont know what caused that to happen, but I heard Penders was solely responsible
it was a combination of Penders suing, bad writing that was pissing Sega off, Archie for loosing contracts, and Sega for not keeping a close eye on their IP
What Im saying is that they will fucking die soon being Sonic was a decent portion of their sales

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Oh furseiseki

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fay is cute

>>10875941
I really hate Yawg's Krystal. Acts nothing like the posh british psion from the games.

>>10901701
Kursed is only in the American localization so that name isn't Canon no matter what.

>>10913196
That's the case of all Yawg's girls. Their personalities are basically interchangeable.

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>>10914377

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>>10905848
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uIvpboKVdrw

>I heard Penders was solely responsible
You aren't wrong. Talks about Penders at the 30:00 mark.

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>>10893299
I wish more artist would draw thicc krystal during krystal appreciation month

>>10922360
there's a krystal appreciation month?

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>>10874502
>Fay never became a main member of the Star Fox team in time for the creation of Super Smash Bros. Melee
>No Fay high/top tier to play as

Truly the worst fucking timeline imaginable

>>10931548
>female starfox characters in smash
lol

>>10931548
>no wolf in melee
>no snake in melee
fucking negotiators taking too long to get the OK

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>>10931548
>Star Fox getting a female character in smash ever.

we truly live in the worst timeline.

>>10905458
>For unknown reasons the US never got this with their copies of Adventures.
Maybe it was made after the U.S. version. The Japanese localization was made after thefact.

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>>10875941
I've never actually saw the appeal of Krystal, she's just another blue fox.

>>10935027
>criticizing krystal while posting fara
uh oh anon you're gonna wake the hive of autistic krystalfags

>>10893060
Based Undertale reference

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Krystal Appreciate Month this month! Bunch of artists on FA are doing discounted commissions, YCHs, etc for her and other Starfox characters.

Anyone have any good commission ideas?

>>10939796
>Anyone have any good commission ideas?
Krystal NOT getting gangbanged

>>10939941
Fat Krystal, after being introduced to the convenience of not hunting for everything she eats, and milkshakes

>>10939796
>Anyone have any good commission ideas?
Krystal and Dinosaur Planet Krystal on either side of a throne while Kevin Bayliss is sitting on the throne smoking a cigar and looking smug

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>>10940270

I dont know if I can post it but I did get an image of Krystal getting her belly pegged, if you know what I mean. You'd hate it because it has an OC involved.

>>10940944
Post it anyways.

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>>10941053

Ok, you asked for it

>>10942484
very creative OC

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>>10942699

It could be worse anon, it could be Alty.

>>10942834
its fucking an inflated stomach

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>>10942699
>>10942834

The thing that pisses me off about Alty isnt that he pays for this sort of shit all the time, but just how he without fail leaves the same dumb fuck comment in almost every image of Krystal.

I heard he at one point attacked anyone who dared to do anything like >>10942484 because he believe she was his and only his to have for his fantasies. Have yet to see evidence

>>10942834
>>10942888
Im gonna commission kevin bayliss bashing that motherfucker's head in with a baseball bat while krystal cheers him on

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>>10942847

If you saw that egg laying image of Krystal, Katt, Miyu, and Fay, that's just how the guy draws bellies. It's honestly no different from Lowkeys stuff and he made shit for /trash/.

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>>10939941
>having enough krystal gangbangs

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>>10892429

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>>10944254
whoops didn't mean to quote

one last bump before going to sleep

>>10935027
She's THE blue fox, you mongoloid

>>10904393
What did he mean by this?

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>>10942962

>>10874502
Three way with fox when?

>>10946846
Never ever. Fox is gay for his arwing.

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>>10949326
I like me some some non-tribal Krystal

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>>10950447

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>>10950447
what is this garbage art style?

>>10950447
>>10950460
Submissive Fox feels unnatural.

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>>10952684
fox has always been a sub

>>10952684
Submissive Wolf would be nice to see.

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>>10954327
Not always, but the majority of furfags in this fandom thinks he's a sissy. I prefer dom Fox over a pushover.

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>>10950543
Artist's name is cat-boots, apparently. They have a tumblr.

>>10952684
People constantly draw Fox as submissive. This is just one of the few times someone has drawn him being really, really into it.

Fucking power bottoms, man.

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>>10954881
catboots does good starfox comics

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>>10954581
>Submissive Wolf would be nice to see.
I think the tiny amount of subwolf art is because he was literally designed to be the bigger stronger edgier cooler fox

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>>10954581
there is some ok stuff of it tho

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>>10955048

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>>10955060

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>>10955076

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>>10955083

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>>10955090

>>10955101
but that's all I could find
there might be more but I wouldn't know since I have macro blacklisted on e6

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>>10955090
>that girly wolf
M U H
D I K

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>>10955206
a man of high tastes

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Literally every gay Star Fox image ever made

>Fox being a submissive twink while Wolf is ripped as fuck
>Macro Fox and Falco
>The trio, Fox, Falco, and Wolf drawn poorly, ripped, etc in the most retarded fuckfest possible
>Inflation, the kind of shit Tom Prest
>Scat, just no
>Vore, this also includes cock vore oand anal vore
>Hyper, this can vary from being retardedly ripped or having a fuckhuge dick
>Rare as shit Panther or Leon are involved
>The rest of the guys are never involved, but if so at least for one case it's fucked up
>People who like this are very hostile about their shippings to the point they will attack you

The girls

>Obligatory Krystal dino dicking
>Some inflation but rarely anything as fucked up as the guys would have it. Typically cuminflation
>Oviposition
>Preggo
>Some vore, not as frequent as the guys.
>Lesbian series of the four, Krystal, Fay, Miyu, and Katt
>Katt doesnt get that much on her own
>Fara barely gets much but then again who gives a shit
>Amanda, Lucy are never involved

>>10955604
wolf/james is becoming more common, same with peppy/james
and more panther stuff too, a bit of leon/wolf teasing/hatefucking

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>>10955604
you forgot:
>Krystal fucking retarded looking OCs

>>10955863
>Krystal getting fucked BY retarded looking OCs
ftfy

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>>10955863

The OC part applies to the guys too. It's really not that much of a problem, just fucking Alty is the one who keeps paying for his OC with Krystal. It's yet to be confirmed but it was said he believed she belonged to his OC that he'd get pissed if anyone dared to step in.

Speaking of, he tends to bitch over petty shit too, hardly believe he's a pilot.

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>>10956238

As far as I know, Alty;

>Self proclaimed pilot
>Bitches over what sometimes happens in the furry community
>Constantly pays for images of his OC fucking Krystal
>Most cases it's ALWAYS the same shit, his OC sucking her tits, etc
>Rare cases he'll have Fox or one of the two other fagmasters involved
>Has yet to be confirmed, was said he claimed Krystal that he'd give anyone a ton of shit if they so much as had any image of their OCs with her, etc
>A case for me, he told me to block someone because of someones opinion. I then find out a day later the person who made the comment was a friend of someone who follows me. I.e. Alty nearly caused a shitstorm. It's been resolved but still (I told them it was his fault and didnt take it the wrong way).
>He'll always leave the same retarded comment in any Krystal image if it's good enough to him. EX: "Very hot and sexy :heart:"

>>10940944
I want to poke Krystal's tummy

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>>10956408
I love seeing the Mario Bros dicking furry girls

>>10955604
I like that Leon/Falco isn't too popular but it's not rare either.

Every couple of months there's a pic with them due to them being Rivals and thats good enough for me.

Now if only there was more fanfiction

>>10956238
>The OC part applies to the guys too
yeah, I mean there are thousands of pics of krystal fucking the actual male cast of star fox

>>10959898
Gotta say Panther looks pretty damn hot as a woman.

>>10962328
Dem abs man

>>10959875

The point is there's really no reason to complain about that as that's typical of really any character. If anything that could be a good thing.

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>>10962328

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>>10959875
>there are thousands of pics of krystal fucking the actual male cast of star fox
What are you talking about? OCs make their way in most of starfox porn with her. Seeing her with actual characters and humans is rare. The guys are lucky. At least they get paired with each other nearly always, but that's mainly due to a headcanon.

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>>10963167
Abs you say?

>>10964273
he's calling krystal an OC

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>>10959898
looks like that twokinds hentai shit

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>>10964333
uwot

>>10964303

He was saying it's not often you see images if Krystal being paired up with the guys as opposed to OCs. Though to be fair you have a ton of gay ass shit of the gay trio and not to mention the rest of the girls dont get involved with them either.

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What is she listening to, /trash/?

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Drawfagging some Fay because I needed a warmup and I adore her

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>>10966298
DO IT

>>10966008
david wise

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>>10966008

The recorded screams of enemy pilots in their final, terrified moments.

>>10966298
yes, good

>>10966298
that artstyle looks kinda familiar
is that you fatz?

>>10967941
Shit Ive been discovered

>>10968843
[nospoilers]I missed you bby[/spoiler]

>>10967076
what's this footage from

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>>10874502
Reminder that Krystal is not a Star Fox character, was never intended to be a Star Fox character, and now symbolizes the decline of the series as a whole.

>>10973289
Reminder that Judy Hopps is a dull, overdone character intended to make a heavy-handed anti-racism message.

>>10973289
>>10973471
reminder that both of you have severe autism

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>>10973471
Don't get upset your favo game led to the death of Starfox, it is what it is man, I'm not mad at you for it.

>>10973514
Because Judy is pretty?

>>10973289
Can you imagine if Peppy and Judy fucked? Riding his thick cock and her calling him "Daddy"?

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>>10974293
This would be very hawt, specially if it was a female Peppy with a big dick.

>>10973289
there we go

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>>10974724
Miss me?

>>10974978
niggers

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>>10975077
LOLAOloLAOALOL!

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Reminder StarFox 64 was never a good game, and ruined the series by being a one hit wonder and ironically causing the decline with its unwarranted sales that would later be proven by how poor it's 3DS port sold compared to it along with it's godawful remake that is Zero.

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HERE WE GO AGAIN

>>10975994
>he gonna church

>>10975994
>Zero sucked
>but Wolf looks so good in it

>>10975413
The multiplayer in 64 was fun though, especially in the landrover.

Bazooka mode was fun too

Can we just get a starfox game with ace combat gameplay?

>>10975994
>HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>10976447
wolf has looked good in every game but one

>>10976647
fuck that, Starfox with Zone of the Enders gameplay

>>10976647
starfox with wings of prey gameplay

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>>10975413
>being really good
>ruining the series
krystalfag pls...you're embarrassing yourself in front of the starfoxfags.

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>>10977772

Who said I was a krystalfag? Maybe I just dont jerk off to overrated trash that ultimately ruined the series by being a one hit wonder. There is such a thing as that, and 64 is exactly that.

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>>10905458
Dude, the Nintendo Power comic was the shit.

>Fox and the others for some reason were space pirates

Because they were. Have you not played the original SNES game? It's not the same story we got afterwards with 64.

>>10978003

>A bloo bloo muh shitty comic!1!!!1

Go away Phred.

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>>10977958
>krystalfag trying to pretend he's not just salty
wew

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>>10978101

>Thinking anyone who doesnt like your favorite game is a krystalfag
kek

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>>10978144
Buddy you're the one who opened up with the animu reactories, it's alright. It's only some games, you don't have to be upset.

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>>10978197

You really that deluded to the point of believing anyone is mad when they respond? That's pretty sad of you, but then again everyone knows you copypaste the same thing.

>>10976754
Everyone looks bad in Command.

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>>10978428
Brah like I said, you immediately broke out the "I jus laffin" insecurity images to try to convince people u just laffin. Relax a little with me mang, its just a game lol.

>>10963774

looks like Tamira to me.

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>>10978550

Because I am laughing, knowing you'd be stupid enough to respond with your fallacy of some boogeyman shitting on an overrated game. What i'm amazed is how you havent been banned for shitting up these threads constantly. I've gone through the archives and you've said the exact same thing every time then pass it off as "lol I trol u". The memetopia avatarfagging says a lot on top of all this.

So I dont know what's sadder, a game that was finally revealed for being the overrated garbage it is, or a man that autistically repeats the same thing whenever these particular threads appear.

>>10978455
wolf got the worst deal

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>>10979107

>not katt

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>>10979198
her command design was awful but it's better than her 64 design

>>10979266

i prefer her comic look
>not canon

still, pink with white tuft

>>10979277

Farewell Beloved Falco is canon, you're thinking of that Nintendo Power garbage.

>Yet another thread where the little Judy Hopps child soils his jammies because some people wanted to post porn of some shitty character.

Dear bunny cock sucking faggot, can you accept that Star Fox and/or Krystal being "good" is not important when we just want to post some titties? Can you kindly go back to the Zootopia thread where the autism is more relevant to you? We'd all appreciate it.

Also daily reminder that Zootopia is a medicore movie about muh raysism, Judy has no tits and her personality is as flat as her chest

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Let's see, jackass goes from trying to advertise that headcanon trash cartoon to arguing with the dumb bitch who can't help but response. You two stupid pricks belong together.

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>judyfag is back

>>10981046
Sometimes I wonder what it's like to be that autistic and unable to stop yourself participating in things you obviously don't like.

Then I tap to Krystal and forget about it.

>>10981069
*Fap
fucking phones

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>>10981483

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>>10946363
Aggro over nothing...

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>>10935637
There's bound to be at least one or two here. I'm just trying to get people to realize there other females in Starfox.

>>10981479
>>10981483
>>10981486
Best uncommon ship

>>10978428
>>10978550
You guys are both mad

>>10950447
>>10950460
I didn't know thots could draw porn

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>>10978890
>Because I am laughing,
See? If you need to keep telling me you're just laffing, and then give me a big long justification, you're prolly just angry tho.

I didn't realize I had upset you that much.

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>>10979969
Of course Krystal being good or bad isn't important.

You act like that will stop people.

>flat chests aren't cute
>Zootopia isn't a wildly popular, high rated, successful animation heavy hitter that people all over adored
HMMMMMMMM sounds like sum1jelly.

>>10982927
Zootopia's only good aspect was the animation
weak soundtrack, weak story, shitty twist, shitty moral

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>>10982955
True! But hot damn was that animation good, and that's what Joody is.

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>>10982915

It's amazing how mad you get while trying desperately to act like you're not.

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>>10983305
I'm not the one trying to convince people I'm not mad mate.

Wanna play runescape with me or somethin? Running nats is pretty relaxing.

>>10983505
what games do you play

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>>10983879
For reals? I used to play Runescape but not anymore, it was always pretty bad but now it's a hot mess of baby shit.

Right now I been playin Guns of Icarus, Unturned, Overswatchwatch, Armello, Ori, and am half assedly replaying Oblivion.

You?

>>10984131
good taste man.
I play doom and quack champions myself a lot these days. tribes and tf2 as well seldomly, but I find myself mainly going back and forth through retro FPS and arena shooters.

loved the shit out of ori. great artstyle and setting.

>>10984183
The new Doom or the old Doom? I've never played the new one but people say it's decently fun and true as it can be to the old style. Never got into any of the FPS stuff you mentioned though, was a Counter Strike guy myself, through and through.

Ori is a real gem, I'm enjoying it a lot.

>>1098421
if I may sperg out for a bit:

both really. the multiplayer on the new doom is pretty hit or miss, but the most recent update unlocked all DLC maps and content for everyone. was never big on doom MP to begin with (the old one was basically super shotgun jousts and x-axis strafing at high speeds, not precisely the pinnacle of competitive gaming) but the campaign is really good. console version is utter garbage, nightmare skill is barely playable there. KB+M is where it's at.

CS 1.6 was the tightest shit, still hang out with some dudes exclusively to LAN party it.

really looking forward to tooth and tail. check it out sometime

>>10984313
Cool cool, yeah, wasn't sure how engaging the multiplayer side of it would be. CS wise I started in 1.5, dabbled in 1.6, and then found my big boy pants in source. Played the shitto out of source.

Hadn't even fuckin heard of Tooth and Tail, that looks sick as hell. I've wanted a good new RTS for a while, the fact it's all anthro'd out makes my dick hard.

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>>10984744

>/v/

I got banned there once for posting a non lewd image of Heresys art of her. Wasnt nude or anything, it was the one of her in the english flag swimsuit. It's as retarded as the /co/ moderation banning Chochi for posting a non lewd image of Kanga he made for them.

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>>10984744

Star Fox threads on /v/ are pretty rare, not because of the mods but because no one really gives a shit. Even when Zero and the release of the cancelled 2 was announced there wasnt that much. They all just died off in a couple or few days.

>Zeros threads was all damage control for two weeks straight when Zero was revealed to being a garbage game. It then evolved to everyone agreeing it was shit with only Cody defending it still.
>The threads regarding 2 was only really about Miyu and Fay only, some of the same shitposters from Zero but these only lasted for less than a week. Many speculate the release of 2 will just be the rom everyone knows of, another portion say it's nothing special as it's just a prototype of Command, to be fair 2 is as clunky and aged as the original which isnt a good thing.

>>10984813
/co/ and /tv/ have the worst mods
I got banned from /co/ for a month for telling boco to eat shit and /tv/ is too busy memeing their shit board to death

>>10984744
>Kevin Bayliss

Who?

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>>10985441
how do you not know about Kevin

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>>10985441
Rareware artist behind Killer Instinct, BatteToads, and Dinosaur Planet
Also drew Krystal, so he's like her daddy

>>10985533
Ahh, what she could have been.

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>>10985540
Sabretooth Krystal needs more love
Those little ear nicks are adorable

>>10984744
>/v/
Place is chock full of idiots and weebs I tell ya, even moreso than here. Fuck, even /vr/'s following their example these days.

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>>10985469
I've just Googled him
>Some character designer from Rare that worked with the Donkey Kong franchise

>>10985590
weebs have always been apart of le channel 4

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>>10985615
>>10985533
and the modern design for DK and Diddy, which is still being used today

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>>10985554
>>10985533
Looks bald without the blue hair. Not a fan and never was.

>>10985554
Too bad she got ruined.

>>10985659
I like both equally

>>10985695
>a character that had a chance to stand on her own feet and be important and main to the story
>a character that's a shoehorned in love interest almost immediately locked away and useless with a theme so erotically over the top explains she's nothing more than a sex joke
Right, both are gud.

>>10985658
>looks bald without the hair
no shit?

>>10985711
yes

>>10985617
Yeah that's right, but the more annoying ones became more prominent over the few that can their power level on hold over the years.

>>10985658
Was never really a fan of how her hair was a darker shade of blue than the rest of her fur for her current design. Then again it's better than how the previous design looked more like a cat than an actual fox.

>>10985757
Cept you're wrong.

Unless you think Norm of the North has as good characters as Citizen Kane.

Which would make you really retarded.

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>>10985636
>>10985533

ohhhhh

Well I guess my post was kinda rude then.

>so he's like her daddy

How does he cope with the fact the he single-handedly sparked the 00's generation of furries and that thousands of artist have drawn his creation in almost every sexual fetish ever?

>>10985864
>How does he cope with the fact the he single-handedly sparked the 00's generation of furries and that thousands of artist have drawn his creation in almost every sexual fetish ever?
He'd be dumb to feel anything other than amusement or satisfaction. He knew exactly what he was doing when he designed her.

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>>10985659
>>10985695
>>10985711

Except you really cant act like anyone in Star Fox is any better. You can literally think of how to make her better, it's just not a lot want to put any effort into it, this is applied to the others.

>>10985888

If you saw the early art of Adventures, you can tell the designers were furries just by the mugshot of Fox alone. If some still whine over Krystals tribal outfit, you forget that Rare has pulled that kind of shit long before it, both in Nintendos games and their own series. Donkey Kong had Candy Kong then eventually aged up Tiny Kong, no surprise Star Fox would get this too.

>>10985864
he doesnt care, he barely remembers her

>>10986047
>Except you really cant act like anyone in Star Fox is any better.
I don't think you understand why this doesn't help your argument lol.

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>>10986047
>you really cant act like anyone in Star Fox is any better

This, desu. The whole cast of the series is pretty flat when you get right down to it. And it really says something when Command was the title which gave them the most character development.

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>>10986229

>Some, keyword "some" people unironically believe the characters have "deep" personalities
>Realistically they're as blank and one dimensional as they tend to say against Krystal and really every other girl in the series
>This is also applied to their "roles" as absolutely none of the others benefit you in the slightest, they're just there.
>Falco is often labeled as the ace pilot except he never does anything that justifies this, in 64 he only does something 1-2 times, in Zero, nothing
>Slippy does provide the boss meter but because you already know how fast a boss dies it defeats the entire purpose, he also doesnt do anything for you other than that and his entire "role" is destroyed in Zero
>Peppy for some reason people call the "wise" man because he tells you shit, the problem is you already know everything, and like the other two he does nothing for you at all. Is 100% useless in Zero because every fucking one tells you what he would.
>Fox is just the generic ass leader with no significant atribute

For added hilarity I watched a 64 video where the player let Falco, Slippy, and Peppy fight Star Wolf themselves. Other than the occasional help moments for the three, it took about 30 minutes or more for the three to take them down without you doing anything.

But lets add a little bonus to this.

>Katt offers nothing for you other than some assistance with either Sector Z or Macbeth. In Sector Z she's not only as slow and useless as the others but depending she'll fuck you out of the points necessary to get a medal. In macbeth, since you already know how to hit all the levers anyway her purpose is defeated.
>Bill offers literally fucking nothing. His help with using the portal is exceptionally useless since you can easily shoot the damn things open yourself either if or can or cant do the button mash technique.

>>10986665
tl;dr the point is I said she could have been something that stood on her own merits instead of a shoehorned love interest. Just because everyone else is SF sucks character wise doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means you acknowledge she was ruined.

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>>10986665

Oh and I forgot to mention, Katt and Bill are completely worthless in Zero. They're just there. There's actually a point where Fox actually forgets who Katt is and this was right after you saved her ass in Fortuna. Bill is just there.

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>>10986692

And that can still be the case, the problem is they need the right team to deal with the series. After how Zero performed the series is practically dead, which is why you're seeing people blame 64 entirely to the point of saying it's sales was what ruined it.

Just because it did so well 20 years ago doesnt mean it's still good. If this was the case neither the port 64 got to the 3DS or Zero would've performed so badly. In fact digging deeper into it, my theory is to why 64 even did so well was a combination of two things;

>The ganre was still relevant before it died in 2002, coincidentally when the gamecube titles came around
>The fact it came with the rumble pack

The latter being a key factor as even a shit title like WiiPlay sold a fuckton alone and it's not hard to know why it did. That was because it came with a free wiimote, for $30 back then you got a shitty game and a free controller with it but soon after people sold their copies of Wiiplay and kept the controller.

What im saying is there's such a thing as overrated garbage and 64 is the prime example of that. If people know the original aged like shit then they can admit 64 wasnt all that good either but unfortunately for some they're blinded by their nostalgia goggles to realize that.

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>>10986835
Real talk I'll never get why people blame 64 for Zeroes failure. It's like blaming any bad remake, it just makes no sense. Everyone's jumping on the 64 hate bandwagon after years of pent up rage over literally nothing.

Your theories are just that, theories, you have no facts to back anything up. SF was big, 64 was done well, it took everything people liked about the first one and solidified it, made it fully voice acted, graphics were great for the day, etc. It's just a fun game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone just bought it for the rumble pack, that's completely bogus and you have nothing to support the claim lol.

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>>10986835
>why 64 even did so well

While you're not wrong to suggest that the Rumble Pack was a major selling point, it is incorrect to assign it that much relevance. The simple fact is that 64 was a killer app back in its day. It was an expansion of a well-received shooter from the previous gen, had good graphics, great sound, voice acting--a rarity at the time--and was overall a fun experience for the young new audience of the N64. The fact that it also included the new technology of rumble was just icing on an already well-made cake.

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>>10986950

Because Zero is 64 and therefore it's held accountable. Does it piss you off knowing your favorite game was shit all along? Cry and scream all you want, you cant deny those theories are damn well spot on.

>Genre died completely, meaning the series was doomed since day one. Another Nintendo IP using the same genre died as a result
>Was only "big" because of a home console doing 3D. i.e. The very original was a full blown one hit wonder as everyone and their mother will admit it doesnt hold up (that goes for 2)
>64 was also such, the prime reason it doesnt sell well at all on a handheld with a high population along with its garbage remake that had every reason to not fail but still did.

Some tried to blame the lack of advertising or being on a dead system, but the fact is the series was never good because they did advertise that shit and despite all that neither 64 or Zero did well at all. Meaning that decline shit was all on 64, overrated garbage can make the illusion of this. In other words 64 didnt deserve to sell as high as it did in 97 but only did because of a free product you'd otherwise have to spend more to get.

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>>10987292
>Because Zero is 64 and therefore it's held accountable.
Zero isn't 64 though, that's where you're off, it's a remake of 64. Imagine an amazing movie, that gets a terrible remake. Was the amazing movie just fucked? Or did the remake have flaws? When you remake 64, when people were promised something new, and on top of remaking something when you promised the people something new, you remake it with abysmal controls shoved down their throat. You really do not think that had ANYTHING to do with how the game turned out? Confirmation bias at its worst mate.

The genre going out doesn't mean the game was bad in any way shape or form honestly, again, it's like looking at older great movies, they don't just suck, you wouldn't use the style anymore sure, but just because the style went out doesn't mean the movie is suddenly bad.

>Was only "big" because of a home console doing 3D. i.e. The very original was a full blown one hit wonder as everyone and their mother will admit it doesnt hold up (that goes for 2)
Citation needed

>64 didnt deserve to sell as high as it did in 97 but only did because of a free product you'd otherwise have to spend more to get.
Citation needed

Why are you so mad at such an old game, level with me, where is the rage coming from? Did 64fags hate on you or what? Do they insult your waifu? I'm trying to legit understand how you delude yourself to the point of pretending your crackpot theories with no evidence to back it up is somehow valid, and that the failure of Zero wasn't an amalgamation of several factors done poorly.

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>>10987292
>neither 64 or Zero did well at all

64 was in the top ten best-selling games on the console. 4,000,000 copies is perfectly respectable, especially for its era. If you're still going to argue that the Rumble Pack is solely responsible for those numbers, you're putting way too much stock in your mom's vibrator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_64_video_games

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>>10987535
What he's saying is that, 64 didn't sell well on 3DS, mind you he's not taking in account the letdown promise, the lack of any new features that a lot of other remakes got, and the fact the series had declined in popularity due to each subsequent title, starting with Adventures.

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>>10987566

>Implying there was a decline
>Implying it wasnt because of 64 making it appear that way

All that's being said is Star Fox 64 is an overrated piece of shit that even a good chunk of the fantards will admit isnt that good as they remember. The only ones who still act like it's good are the handful of autistic retards that most likely think Barrel Roll is actually funny.

>>10987535

4 million to Adventures near 2 million or more seems rather fair, but certainly not something to cry and scream "DECLINE11!!!!11" and bitch over as even Zelda over the years prior to BOTW was having that happen but of course Zelda is just popular so no one would dare say anything about it. The problem is the avatar fag acts like the near half amount difference is this big issue when there's clear evidence his point is moot.

The key emphasis is sales, mainly with 64 and the enhanced port. By implying there was a decline and blaming a sequel, yet failing to mention how the supposed "masterpiece" of the series sells a goddamn fraction on a current gen system despite the games you blame for the "decline", you're making yourself look retarded.

In six years since Star Fox 64 3D released, it hasnt even hit a million at all. That just raises a lot of questions about its status especially if Adventures outclasses that and most likely hit nearly 2 million much faster. Christ even Assault is higher than it. The only title it surpassed is Command but to be fair no one likes that game. Mind you 643D got the selects label five and a half years later and it still didnt help it.

To say it didnt offer anything new is not a good excuse since Ocarina of Time 3D didnt offer anything new either and yet still outsold 643D anyway. No, the hint and rematch feature barely makes it new.

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>>10988255
>Implying there was a decline
Well when each subsequent game halved in sales and ratings progressively got worse and worse...yes there was a decline.

>All that's being said is Star Fox 64 is an overrated piece of shit
Bruh thats your opinion, you have nothing to back up your claims but your own SJW tier rage. Relax, seriously, this is not healthy.

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>>10988307

>btfo'd so hard he cries and screams SJW

Hey, i'm just speaking truthfully here. There's no need to be so upset at me.

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>>10987269
64 was a great game for its time. In fact, I stand by it as still a good game -- just not a $60 game. Nowadays it's more like a $15 game at most. And consoles are always looking for the next big $60 Triple-A title, gotta make the big bucks, which means Star Fox is effectively dead.

>>10988617
Just make Adventures 2 and put more vehicle sections in. A BOTW-styled Adventures game would sell like crazy.

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>>10988456
>has no evidence to back up his claims
>called out for it
>LOLOL I BTFO OUT OUT U U SAID SJW LOL NERD
Relax buddy, did you vote for Hillary too?

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>>10988255
Post more Fox butt

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>>10989066

>Is so mad he cant think of anything logical to say and instead brings in politics

Calm down, no need to be so upset you got blown the fuck out so hard.

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In case people arent aware, Judyfags been shitting up these threads for at least five months straight, using the exact same copypasta every time and using the exact same images in the near exact same order. Also I noticed he can never be wrong because the minute he gets his shit thrown back at him, for example like a question he gets asked he will not answer it if it conflicts with his backwards viewpoint. And lastly, he stated he's doing it "for teh lulz XD", but the amount of time he's put into this says otherwise.

So remember to ignore, hide, and report him. He doesnt care about the thread, he only cares about shitting it up.

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>>10989202
>can't think of anything logical to say
>specifically refutes your logical fallacy and asks for real evidence
Right. You come back when you're ready to provide any tangible evidence for your claims lol, you keep trying hard as shit to smugreply it up, yet your entire argument is self destroyed.

>>10989353
Is so mad he goes on a tirade asking people to help him, wew.

>>10989192
there isnt nearly enough fox or wolf art with canine dongs

>>10984973
>mods defending autistic tripfags

/co/ truly is the worst board when it comes to moderation. But again, it takes one sperg to defend another one.

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>>10989596

You really are full of yourself arent you that you're afraid of losing an argument? You're even assuming without even proving it. If it's true you've been doing this since March then you really have mental issues.

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>>10990551
All bants aside you truly haven't come up with a refutation to my argument. You are actually saying the reason zero failed is because 64 sucked. You are saying it had nothing to do with the lack of interest, the horrible controls, the remake against promise of something new, its all because 64 sucked.

When 64 is the highest rated, most bought, most quoted, most memed, most known SF game ever.

I legit don't know what to say, again, all bants aside, help me understand your logic.

>>10990710

You're assuming im the anon who questioned it, are you that paranoid over someone having an opinion that doesn't coincide with yours?

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>>10990789
No? That's why I asked him to explain himself.

Why are you making stuff up?

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>>10990710

>Highest rated
Irrelevant as it was 20 years ago, 3D got lower ratings
>Most bought 20 years ago
Irrelevant as 3D sold like shit compared to it which defeats your decline argument entirely. Meanwhile Mario 64 DS and OoT3D sold far more, two other games that were as big as 64 back then
>Most memed
One quote doesnt mean shit, no one but dumbfucks thought it was ever funny.
>Most known
Barely, Smash does not count

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>>10990889
>Irrelevant as it was 20 years ago, 3D got lower ratings
How is it irrelevant though? That's like saying Citizen Kane is irrelevant. Again, a remake would be a terrible idea, and the style it's shot in is dated, but it's still one of the most important movies to cinema ever.

>Irrelevant as 3D sold like shit compared to it which defeats your decline argument entirely.
Except it really doesn't, again, you have to admit that the series, as compared to Zelda that you keep bringing up, had declined. Adventures halves sales from 64, Assault halves sales from that, and dropped ratings sharply. Command dropped both sales and ratings hugely from that. 643D was led in as a promise of a new game, when it was revealed to be a direct port to a new console, people weren't for it, and interest in the franchise was out the window. It's an objective fact, Starfox was no longer as strong as Zelda.

>One quote doesnt mean shit, no one but dumbfucks thought it was ever funny.
Opinion first off, second off, there's all kinds of memes from it, Use the boost to get through 9/11, Can't let you do that "insert subject here", do a barrel roll. It's the most memed and quoted, most memorable game.

>Barely, Smash does not count
Wha?

Mate, I'm legit offering an olive branch here trying to get real points from you, I won't bant or hate on you, I just want to know why you logically think this way. So far, I haven't seen anything substantive, you keep blaming future failures for a past success and I don't know why, I'm open to suggestion, but it needs to come with it some evidence. Yeah I like to shit up the place, but we've been at it long enough to drop the acts and just explain ourselves for reelz lol.

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>>10991045
>643D was led in as a promise of a new game, when it was revealed to be a direct port to a new console, people weren't for it, and interest in the franchise was out the window. It's an objective fact, Starfox was no longer as strong as Zelda.

Like you can actually prove this. Otherwise you seem to get really bothered when someone says your info is irrelevant but it's a-okay for you to do this.

>Le 9/11 joke
>Unfunny wolf quote
>Unfunny Le Barrel //roll quote

Wow, three, so memorable. /sarcasm

>>10991139
>Le 9/11 joke
what

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>>10991139
>Like you can actually prove this.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2220/star-fox-adventures/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2222/star-fox-assault/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2221/star-fox-command/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82964/star-fox-zero/

So this is the decline, each game halved sales from the previous installment, save for zero, which lost 100k or so, interest in the franchise had declined, ratings had declined, and I do certainly believe it had to do, along with shit controls and false promises, to do with the failure of Zero. As for 643D, before it was revealed, Miyamoto, like he did with Zero, advertised it as doing some nondescript new Star Fox shit. When it came out it was a 100% port, people weren't as interested.

>Wow, three, so memorable. /sarcasm
Again, just because you don't care doesn't mean it isn't memorable. People quote and meme 64, it's memorable, and it's moreso than Adventures. Again, this is all real talk, I don't hate you, but it is what it is. I'm trying to talk it out with you, but you just seem interested in keeping the bants. I don't believe the best game in the series is the reason the series failed, I never have, I never will.

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>>10991250

>6-643D didn't sell because n-no interest!!! I-It was a port!11!!
>OoT3D was a port, Mario 64 DS was a port with a major overhaul in content. Both that sold far more over 643D.

Ahaha, so you dont want to admit 64 was never good, how about you show the sales numbers compared to the original release? It really contradicts your claim of 64 being so great now doesn't it? Oh wait, you'll just keep pulling more excuses out just to not be wrong.

>Implying anyone quotes or "memes" it

Oh do try to prove that, and no you cannot use KYM or Star Fox communities as the latter are all practically dead.

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>>10991345
>6-643D didn't sell because n-no interest!!! I-It was a port!11!!
>OoT3D was a port, Mario 64 DS was a port with a major overhaul in content. Both that sold far more over 643D.
Did you even read what I wrote though? I said both Zelda and Mario had far more populated fanbases than Starfox, and proved the decline you said I couldn't prove...so...what now? You're just ignoring and giving up? Buddy, again, I don't care bout hurting each others feelings, trying to understand, but you're just trashing facts, completely ignoring what someone says, to try to save your case.

Just stahp.

>Implying anyone quotes or "memes" it
I just proved it, the memes exist...what are you doing lol.

I just wanted to fap dammit.

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>>10991414

>No proof of this "meming" shit
>Cant prove your "facts"

Telling me this is not enough, it's ironic considering you ask for citation if anyone else says anything to you.

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>>10991534
>No proof of this "meming" shit
>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/star-fox
Here you go, only thing from Adventures is the Krystal Sandwich, which isn't even directly related.

Good game though, I tried to just talk it out with ya, but you only want to bant it up, oh well, I can depart knowing I've clobbered your arguments and you have nothing of substance to offer in rebuttal, the takeaway being, yes indeed, SF Adventures is where the decline started, and there's nothing you can do to prove otherwise.

Aka krystal a shit lol.

>>10991428
iktf anon

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>>10991643

>No proof of this "meming" at all and instead drags Krystal into it out of sheer anger
>Using KYM as if it matters, doesnt pull up any recent cases at all

AHAHAHA oh wow you really are that full of yourself..

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>>10991803
I get you're acting retarded to do the "I was only pretending" meme, but it's been months like you said, it's too late for that.

Been fun buddy, come back when you're ready to discuss with the rest of us.

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>>10991916

>Ask for proof of your claims
>Refuse to give any proof and instead make up more fallacies
>Gets so mad that you instead drag Krystal into it, as if to imply it has to do with her or what have you
>Being so paranoid as shit that anyone who doesnt like 64 is an Adventuresfag in your book
>Never providing any evidence of your claims from anyone else that've asked for it since you've started shitting these threads up since March
>Literally refusing to provide the figures of 64s original release to 64 3D in >>10991250 because you know it sold much worse
>Make up the claim it was because no one was interested, again never providing any hard evidence of this at all
>Pretending you're not mad as shit people do not agree with you and or like certain titles that arent 64
>Implying anyone wants to discuss the series with you around since you have shit opinions
>Being that deluded

Inb4 wall of text response trying desperately to be right.

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Isn't there any mods here that can just ban the judyfag already? This is why we cant have these threads because he just shits them up with the same autistic bullshit everyone's tired of seeing.

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>>10992085
>Ask for proof of your claims
Of course, always.

>Refuse to give any proof and instead make up more fallacies
Cite which fallacy I made?

>Gets so mad that you instead drag Krystal into it, as if to imply it has to do with her or what have you
No?

>Being so paranoid as shit that anyone who doesnt like 64 is an Adventuresfag in your book
No?

>Never providing any evidence of your claims from anyone else that've asked for it since you've started shitting these threads up since March
I always have, see >>10991250 for proof of decline and >>10991643 for proof of memery you asked for

>Literally refusing to provide the figures of 64s original release to 64 3D in >>10991250 (You) because you know it sold much worse
No? http://www.vgchartz.com/game/45692/star-fox-64-3d/

Here you go, sold poorly lol.

>Make up the claim it was because no one was interested, again never providing any hard evidence of this at all
Again, already proved the decline of popularity in the series by sales.

>Pretending you're not mad as shit people do not agree with you and or like certain titles that arent 64
If that helps you cope, this statement has no evidence to back it up tho.

>Implying anyone wants to discuss the series with you around since you have shit opinions
Opinion, disregarded.

>Being that deluded
Says the person who thinks the series declined is because 64 did amazing lol.

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>>10992165
How many times do I need to tell you that not only have I not broken any rules, but this is /trash/ mate...no one cares.

>>10992165
> Isn't there any mods here
No. This is /trash/. Nobody cares.

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>>10992175
>Says the person who thinks the series declined is because 64 did amazing lol.

Hey dont blame me, it's only true. Just look at how BOTW did and already many speculate the Zelda series is going to decline because it's going to be plagued by the generic open world genre. Speaking of, already people are questioning if BOTW was actually that good.

Some successful things can actually be the bane of it, it just took until Zero to finally get that message through 64fags thick skulls.

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>>10992339

Actually allow me to rephrase.

Breath of the Wild is already being questioned not even a year after it came out, if it was even the 10/10 game it supposedly is. Some even say it's overrated, and some are even going as far to saying the series will decline because of the plan of it continuing to be an open world type game.

I dont have a problem with Open World games, but I have seen the list of issues people had with BOTW. Long story short it's as generic as any other open world game. Is it to say it's terrible? No, i've actually enjoyed that shit myself, but as I said sometimes the most successful things can actually be the bane of it all. So dont be surprised if that sort of thing happens to that series

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>>10992339
Are you actually trying to explain your reasoning? So I don't deny the rail shooter genre is falling out, but that doesn't mean the game that was built in it sucks suddenly after the fact lol.

Look at it from my perspective, Alien was good, Aliens was good, Alien 3 was meh, Alien 4 sucked, is that because Alien sucked?

Of course not.

>>10992165
What would current Krystal look like but without the dark blue hair and tiara?

>>10992085
>>10992339
Would you both kindly stop shitting up the thread?

I swear every time I see an argument on this website it always devolves into a cluster of reaction images and fucking meme arrows, until both parties have made fools out of themselves trying to match one another's character count under the guise of logical argument. Poor performance from both of you chucklefuck retards, grow the hell up.

>>10994106
But who's more logical tho?

>>10994123
The one who realizes the only winning move.

>>10994147
Yeah but this isn't nuclear war or tictactoe so who brings the better point, really?

>>10994161
It doesn't matter. Trying to apply logical analysis to any subjective matter will eventually result in an infinite loop of reasserting one's stance and nitpicking the argument. It can be fun and interesting to discuss differing viewpoints, but nothing you can say will change the mind of a person who is truly set in their ways.

>>10994268
To be fair, only one side is blatantly ignoring the viewpoint of the other side, so it's interesting that the discrepancy is identifiable.

Kill you're selves

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at least it isnt boco