/tfg/ - Transformers General

>>6480912
God, I wish we'd get more micromasters and minicons and shit, and have absolutely none of them be small versions of existing characters.

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>>6480923
>and have absolutely none of them be small versions of existing characters
Yes, because that never happened before.

In all seriousness, some Titanmaster-sized Micromasters and Voyager/Leader-sized bases with be pretty nice.

>>6480912
>mah nigga Tote up front and center
Aw yeah

>>6480934
That came with Star Convoy and I'm pretty sure it's the only instance of a g1 character who wasn't a micromaster being released in a micromaster size class.

The "Feel good buzz" from buying TFs seems to be getting weaker, with about half a day length now. How do I improve this?

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Micromasters ruled. It sucks Grandus, Star Convoy, and Sky Garry weren't released in NA.

>>6480955
I hear heroin is good

>>6480955
Start buying 3rd party.

>>6480955
It's time to branch out into other lines.

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>>6480955
Stop buying figures temporarily

>>6480955
can confirm >>6480969 works perfectly

>>6480969
Alternativley, buy even more figures.

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>>6480934
> Titanmaster-sized Micromasters

Can you imagine the pain of engineering that HasTak had to go through? a bit of 1cm + a height of a titanmaster at least. But yeah I can agree

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>>6480982
>CONSUME

>>6480994
You got it.

>>6480955
transform everything on your shelf
do it

>>6480997
Thanks anon I just broke my Randy.

>>6480998
Good, that's what I wanted. Fuck your Randy. Fuck everyone's Randy.

>>6480955
Reaffirm your love for your toys by postingTAKARA/HASBRO/3P WINS AGAIN and calling everyone who disagrees with you a cuck.

>>6480994
>>6480982
Fuck off Warden

>>6481004
Mail me the stickers you peeled off in rage.

>>6481006
The only thing that pisses me off about the stickers is that they come pre-applied, I wouldn't mind them if I could put them on myself and do it right.

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>PotP Dreadwing and "Inferno" is CW reusage
Couldn't they also do UW Blast-Off in the line?
Takara got shit for messing up the colors, so Hasbro would win big if they also corrected it.

>TR Slugslinger showing up in Australia
So we know what the Deluxe repacks are for the wave, but what about the other classes?

>>6481008

See, this is the part that gets me too. Wouldn't it be CHEAPER for them to let us apply our own stickers, and that way we also don't get shittily applied stickers?

>>6481009
who are the repacks?

>>6481003
Cucks win again and everyone who disagrees with me is a Takara/Hasbro/3p

>>6481013
Hot Rod, Kup, and Hardhead

>>6481012
Yeah, it's all so fucking weird. Then I'd also have the option to only apply the stickers I want, instead of spending 10 minutes painstakingly removing the ones I hate

>>6481009
>Dreadwing

Do you mean Dreadwind?
BUT SPEAKING OF DREADWING, FUCKING WHEN? https://youtu.be/Ry8TupFxILU

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The only issue I think I have with the LG Ultra Magnus upgrade kit is that the blue forearms kind of screw with the vehicle mode's colors. Not really an issue I suppose unless you're in the minority that likes leaving TFs in vehicle mode.

It's not a thing for the CW version since that version keeps the forearms white

>>6481008
The only thing that bugs me about the stickers in the glue. Hasbro uses the shittiest, weakest fucking glue possible for their stickers.

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>>6481025
>It's not a thing for the CW version since that version keeps the forearms white

Just to let you for the CW version, the white is not a exact match either. It is like this deep/greenish off white.

Unrelated note, I was able to find the tiny figures from the Kabaya set. I really wish Broadside is leader class

>>6481029
Hopefully the same guys doing the oversized headmasters will do Broadside.

>>6481023
I think anon was speaking of the both of them, so combined their name is Dreadwing.

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>>6481023
I meant Dreadwind and Darkwing. Dreadwing is their combined mode.

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sigh...i want my dinobots...
>tfw no Dinobots in stores yet

>>6481047
patience anon, save your money for now.

>>6481045
I always found it strange when that was released pitch because it seem like such an underwhelming gimmick. At that point you had robots that's heads turn into robots, a triple changer that's a gaint bird and a military missile truck, robots that are inside monsters and mech suits we have two planes that can dock together. It just seems so underwhelming.

>>6481027
Well yeah. They're not gonna spend money on a good adhesive.

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>>6481047
I know that feeling, i'm waiting on like 10 different things.

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All these late g1 updates gives me hope for this guy. My favorite toy as a kid. I remember losing the inner bot but still had loads of fun with just the car.

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>want your formers to have cool looking guns
>ALL OF THE GUNS LOOK LIKE HOLLOW SHIT
>muh titans return gimmick
WHO came up with this stupid idea?
having proper gun is more fun than having a headmaster to sit on the gun-chair

>>6481111
Don't you see!? It's just like Targetmasters! Titanmasters ain't just Headmasters! They're all the masters!

>>6481114
Cockpit guns are pretty much universally agreed upon to be terrible even by people who like TR

>>6481116
They're not cockpit guns, it's modern Targetmasters!

Still haven't seen Seaspray in any stores, or anything from Wave 5

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>>6481119
>They're not cockpit guns, it's modern Targetmasters

Think again

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>>6481116
>>6481111
i hate my sergeant Kup guns
both of them are hollow and look good only from one side.
and both of them very loose so its impossible to hold a gun without gun sliding because of weight
im using them as backpack

fuck this shit. its 2017 and we STILL having 80s-style "my figure cant hold its weapons" problem

>>6481122
The dude was obviously being sarcastic, tard.

>>6481125
Well shit I didnt know that. >I lost again

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Voyager is the only size class Megatron was constantly made in all the movie lines. Thus this perfect display.

>>6481128
>bayformers

>>6481132

Your observation skills are AMAZING! You must be a modern Sherlock Holmes or something.

>>6481128
Movie Masterpiece ROTF Megatron would be the bee's knees.

>>6481128
I have this disdain for all the movie Megatron designs aside from TLK.

With that said, all the toys look nice aside from Galvatron.

>>6481111
Is the recent /v/ poster here the same guy as the /tv/ Colbert poster?

>>6481027
And the only thing that bugs me are grown men whining about stickers on playskool robots.

>>6480958

it's kinda weird how their head are still front and center.

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>>6481110
>>6481122
>tfw Prime Masters are Pretenders, Headmasters AND Targetmasters

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>>6481162
The only thing I'll miss is the vehicle modes. They're goofy, but fun.

>>6481122
The face that Takara didn't scale down their targetmasters to titan scale feels lazy.

Anybody know what time the exclusives go on sale?

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It's really gonna be a while before I get over how much of a disaster this release was.

Next time they release MP Murderprime I really hope the undersides of his feet are somewhere on the gigantic list of problems to fix with this mold. I've barely had this guy in robot mode and paint on the grill (especially the autobot logo) is already rubbing off.

>>6481186
Wouldn't that be smaller than a atom?

>>6481128
>DOTM and TLK Megatron on the same shelf
Patrician taste, anon.

>>6481133
Well, I'm not the one to brag but my nana did say that I'm a clever boy.

>>6481190
I'm patiently (not really) waiting to get me the takara version, if I'm lucky he might be better.

What I don't understand is why keep the truck grill as the feet, ok its a big surface area to hide, why not engineer it so they recess into the foot area so the grill isn't directly touching the floor, coulda had that shit chromed but no that wouldn't last 5 seconds.

The rotf leader I can tolerate for doing that, for the mp there is no excuse

>>6481198
Yes. And?

>>6481009
>other classes
We barely just got voyagers wave 5 here but what we already know thanks to previous events is overlord is the last leader wave, blitz and octone are final voyager wave, seaspray and cosmos final legends wave, anything else is a revision wave just to tide us over until POTP starts.

As for blastoff it'll be toy accurate which surely wouldn't be too hard but after hasbro tr scourge I have little hopes hasbro would get that right, I honestly don't mind his UW colors because its a close enough approximation, if he was an mp then I'd be butthurt.

What bugs me is so far hasbro has shared with each takara mold in some form, why no blastoff/strafe variant yet?

>>6480912
>micromasters when

I believe legions have replaced those, and for generations lines its the little mini figs like titan masters and "prime/decoy suit" dudes from potp.

If they really wanted to though, they could reissue the classic micromasters but in blind bags and charge $10 each, sounds too much right, people will eat up nostalgia and accept the higher quality of them over the current legions.

I honestly think micromasters have been absorbed into other lines these days, even their vehicles and base sets have too with the tr leader base modes, I just hope they bring those back in future lines

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>>6481134
YOU DARE DEFILE MY LEGACY WITH THAT SPINDLY HANDED CRAB TRASH?!

>>6481226
I almost think that's what they tried, but because the grill doesn't tab in too well it ends up sticking out from his sole and winds up being the only part of his feet that contact the ground.

Even beyond the truck hood being a disaster, there are so many issues with MPM4 that need to be fixed

>>6481128
I can't even disagree with you, sadly enough. Literally all five voyagers are better than any leader incarnations.

>>6481186
...what?

>>6481273
Reading comprehension >>> you

>>6481288
>face
>fact

Spelling>>>>>>>you

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>>6481273
anon i saying that the Targetmasters should be smaller to match the headmasters/titan masters which is a fair issue to have.

>>6481232
Too bad Cyberverse is past its glory days during DOTM and TFP when they had two size classes for the line, accessories for the little dudes, playsets, bases and vehicles.

>>6481299
I should have gotten more of Cyberverse when it was around, but I really like the little Blackout from that line, more complex than the legends' size without suffering the backpackforming of the voyager, and he even came with a tiny Scorponok.
Also was Cyberverse Powerglide the go-to of that character for anyone else before CW gave us the better one?

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Goddamnit guys, just think about the fact that there was a toyline combining two of the most lucrative mass media franchises on earth running for an entire half decade and yet, the average casual Transformers or Star Wars fan has probably never heard of it. This could have truly been one of the greatest examples of a crossover series but somehow the designers managed to completely fuck up something as simple as transformable spaceships mostly shaped around rectangles and triangles, as if it was some form of Herculean task after having done numerous airplanes and beasts and combiners and all other sorts of complex shit. The concept for this line was excellent, some of the alt modes even looked like proper Revell-sized Star Wars vehicles, but my god, other than a few rare exceptions (like Cody and the Jedi Starfighters, for instance) the actual engineering and robot aesthetics were a fucking disaster.

How could they fuck up so bad, /tfg/? Will Hasbro ever attempt something like this again? Because if something, now is the best time to actually resurrect SW-TF.

>>6481307
I always assumed they outsourced the design process to someone who'd suffered brain damage, they seem more like knockoffs than the real deal, despite being official.
I have the clone trooper tank, tank mode is pretty alright, better than Mace Dindu/fighter for sure.

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>>6481307
>How could they fuck up so bad

They were designed purely by Hasbro's team for one, those guys that made that shitty Energon Grimlock/Swoop and the Titanium series. What's worse about SW:TF was that they were trying to do much
>Vehicle mode based on certain existing design
>Robot mode based on character from fiction
>Little pilot figure that fits in both modes

The better ones are mostly those that don't try to force these 3 gimmicks, like the Clone Troopers ones that they could play around with the robot silhouette and the later basic-sized ones. The Marvel ones are also pretty decent because they only need to look like their namesakes in robot mode.

>>6481296
But... why?

>>6481295
It's not fact. It was intentionally spelled as face. Learn to read and comprehend English.

>>6481307
>>6481317

IIRC, at least some people behind the Star Wars TFs in particular were previously involved in making SW vehicles, with no prior experience with TFs, which contributed to the alt modes being generally spot-on but the robot modes being, well, crap.

There's a reason the design process of mainline TFs are so collaborative.

>>6481307
>How could they fuck up so bad, /tfg/?

They fucked up their own franchise. What do you expect?

>>6481296
goddam that fucking stupid
so stupid

>>6481296
>which is a fair issue to have.
In what fucking way?

>>6481323
>>6481340
They're meant to be humans/nebulons/a species of robot, so it would be weird for them to have massively different sizes.

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So I went to TFNation on Saturday. It was a pretty fun show really, not huge but big enough for me DESU. Got to meet Thew, Venus Terzo, Hal Rayle and Simon Furman, all of whom are awesome.

But anyway, haul time. First up I got a Transmetal Tarantulas- he's an awesome figure but his chrome is rather flakey.

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Next was Transmetal Waspinator, whose robot mode is a bit of a monkey's breakfast but his wasp mode is awesome. I never would have thought orange and chrome-gold would look this good together.

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Finally for figures was a grail of mine, Beast Wars Rampage. He's missing his missiles and that puny rifle but the figure itself is complete, the rotary cannon was included and the treads are in great condition. I love this dude so much.

(I did get an '07 Swindle as well but nobody cares about that)

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Got some art- a print signed by Hal Rayle (who is a scream), a piece of Sari facing down Animated Megatron, and a piece by Hinomars19.

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And finally, I bought the greatest piece of Transformers merchandise ever made.

Livin' the dream.

>>6481356
Nice example, faggot.

>>6481349
Did Thew say when his action figure was going to be mass produced?

>>6481344
>it would be weird for them to have massively different sizes
Only if they're humans. Nebulons may very well have varying sizes, and Cybertronians obviously do. Why would you assume any robot species has to be a uniform size when that's clearly not the case at all in the Transformers franchise?

>>6481360
I didn't know about that action figure until I popped into this thread DESU. We were too busy shooting the shit about robots anyway.

>>6481361
"Masters" are meant to be one species with no major height variation, that's all there is to it, there's no argument to be had.

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Was the white panel under mp40's windshield akom accurate too?

Any pics of him in car mode?

Also wasn't he in rodimus prime form when he became a target master or did he hand off the matrix to prime by this point, its been too long since g1

>>6481372
Yes.

>>6481372
I hope some 3P makes a KO of Firebolt.

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>>6481403

You get your KO of Firebolt, but he's the 7 and a half feet tall.

>>6481403
Same here, it would make this new one irrelevant since I can't find the old one on his own.

That said I wonder how many people are gonna pounce on mp40 if he shelfwarms, he ain't like artfire and his varied deco

>>6481411
I feel like Artfire is more prone to shelfwarming than MP-40. MP-40 is Hot Rod, one of the most popular characters, featured prominently in the movie, cartoons and comics. Artfire was a toy released 30 years ago, only in Japan. This collector-base in influenced far more by what's popular in the media than anything else.

>>6481419
Well he's alot harder to find (for me) and price isn't going to sales levels yet.

Seriously some real bullshit is happening here with him, local anime shop has him, I get being Australian they charge BS prices and $220aud for inferno or $220 for the toon redeco of mp primal, but WHY is artfire going for $278 displayed right next to inferno?

Let alone Aussie ebay sellers who do the nice thing and start a 1 cent auction but retards going up to $250aud with the box looking like someone used it as a football?

Oh well I'll just keep watching mandarake until he drops below 10k yen without any obvious damage

>>6480923
G1 Micromasters getting new toys would be pretty badass if pulled off right.

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>>6481344
You could explain it by saying that the humanoid inside is wearing a bigger suit.

>>6481186
I think it's appropriate that they're roughly the same size as the TM vehicles.

>>6481349
>>6481352
Nice haul, anon!
I hope we get modern versions of them soon (that aren't exclusives).

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>pulled mp10 from box
>just as amazing as he was the day I opened him
>forget transformation steps but work him out after some trial and error
>just pulled mp28 hot rod from his box
>WHO ATE THE FUCKING CHROME!?
>transformation was mindless and despite the integration feel he's just alot of shell

This chrome problem is that widespread isn't it, I thought maybe it was the fact I touched the chrome but mp10 seemed fine and the read pipes on hotrod are a part I never needed to touch.

Would mp40 be any better or is it gonna flake off?

And has anyone tried that liquid chrome stuff, I feel a repair is required

>>6481483
>You could explain it by saying that the humanoid inside is wearing a bigger suit.

True that, honestly I don't mind them being different sizes, I was just trying to explain why one would expect them to be the same. It'd be pretty lame if the targetmaster were the same size as the headmaster, you either end up with too small a gun or too big a head (like in g1). I wonder how Masterpiece headmasters will be, if they scaled them with the current mp Targetmasters their heads would be huge.

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>>6481483
Yeah a TM+suit/vehicle is approximately the same 2" size as old/new minicons and diaclone power suits. I'm assuming the new targetmasters and PotP pretenders will be about that scale too.

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Guess what series this was supposed to be.

>>6481527
Kiss Players!

>>6481527

The upcoming new series?

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IT'S HAPPENING

TOYSHOP IS ONLINE NOW!!!

>>6481527
Animated?

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hahaha what

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>Skater Prime goes up on HTS
>Can't use any of the promo codes
>Can't even get free shipping

I want him, but I don't 60 burgers want him.

>>6481533
What stuff were they adding?

>>6481540
It's either 60 burgers now, or 150 burgers later.

>>6481128
>>6481128
It's a bummer Movie 1 Voyager never got a version without ice or fire on it

>>6481547
I'll risk it. I'd prefer a Nucleon Quest Super Ginrai anyways.

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>>6481540
Get him and expend another 60 burguers on his add on.

>>6481549
When it first came out, the first attempt at a mod I ever did was to de-ice him. It's still shit.

>>6481509
Who is that on the far right?

>>6481540
Eh, cool colors aside, that mold is just not worth it to me. The skate ramps are cool though.

>>6481552
That honestly looks good enough on his own.

I really hope the new power armor prime has a decent small bot.

Primitive Prime is SOLD OUT!
I got him!

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>>6481558
1/3 of the Emergency Minicon team from Armada. Turns into an emergency "rescue" claymore.

>>6481540
Exactly my thoughts. He looks fun, but I can think of better ways to entertain myself with 60 dollars.

>>6481571
Unicron Trilogy Mini-Cons were so cool.

>>6481527

Animated.

It's the series bible.

>>6481528
>>6481529
>>6481536
It's the TFA bible

>>6481574
Same. If the SHIPAUG17 code had worked it might have pushed me over the edge, but I don't feel like I missed out. Had him in my cart and just couldn't pull the trigger.

>>6481299
>Too bad Cyberverse is past its glory days during DOTM and TFP when they had two size classes for the line, accessories for the little dudes, playsets, bases and vehicles.
honestly I figure Cyberverse will be back in some form or another soon enough, it's really the only long term future the franchise has from an price perspective

>>6481584
I even tried the 20% off code you get from signing up emails. It doesn't work either because it's an exclusive.

It's not a bad investment, exactly. If you decide you don't like it, I'm sure you'll have no trouble reselling it to get your money back and then some. I just don't see it worthwhile of my time though because I'm not that big a fan of the mold to begin with.

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>>6481585
I wish the rumors of legends playsets with the new movie had proved true. The Ark is still one of my favorite purchases.

>>6481588
True. I could have definitely resold, but it's probably better I didn't bother. If it had been the Ginrai mold I might have just for the better arms and stuff.

Is there fucking any way to line up Last Knight Nitro's legs with the pegs on his wings? Because it doesn't seem like you can plug his feet into his tail AND plug his legs into his wings at the same time.

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>>6481527
the same series that thought turning Armada Red Alert into a waifu and giving her tentcles was a good idea. Animated was fucking shit.

>>6481598
>everything becomes a skirt
Kind of a boring design. Maybe if instead her vehicle mode hood became a shoulder-level operating table or something instead.

>>6481540
Remember the big railgun that the skate rail turns into can be shoulder mounted.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6JIEvjE0Fs

>liquid chrome pen

I have ideas.

Anyone willing to coat up a mp36?

Gonna try to my mp28's pipes, seriously that kickback he did is sexy (4:49)

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Siege on Cybertron just dropped at BBTS!

Glad I didn't bite on Skatimus, this is the new transformer fix that I needed.

>>6481581
>Lockdown being a jet
>Overly humanoid eyes and body structure
>Prowl looking like a woman

Prototype TFA was a mistake

>>6481539
>yellow robot head not-bumblebee
>Volkwagen wheels with nipple hubcaps (damn I miss my '67, 1996; highschool-age younger brother stole it one night and totaled it, had to skip work the next day and lost that job, brother deserves his lifetime of bad knees and back for it)
>widget skinner
Just need pic of it in Autismo's hands.

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>>6481611
>literally just a bunch of inferior versions of molds you can find on mass retail
Ew, no. The only thing that got me interested in that set was PMOP but, since we're basically going to have a proper combining Optimus Prime in just a few months, there really is no reason to pay ~100 bucks for that.

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>Siege on Cybertron Set

I got my notice that this arrived but I seriously considering canceling. I really want Tidal Wave but the rest is meh. Pounce would be cool but I can always get the Takara release.

Opinions?

>>6481624
Tidal Wave is a really likable color scheme.

Can I see the new Clonebots/cons with their G1 toy versions?

>>6481625
>>6481626
He alone ain't worth it, anon. The mold itself is fairly mediocre and the colors aren't even all that consistent with the original Tidal Wave.

>>6481569
When the fuck did he go on sale? I checked every hour a few hours around midnight and again a few hours around 8 in the morning and it was never up

>>6481635
Well he needs to be able to dual-purpose as Flattop

>>6481625
Takara clone sets are going to be 40 bucks. Hasbro Pounce and Wingspan are going to cost you, what, 125 dollars?

The Takara colors are worse on the clones but they're way cheaper.

>>6481110
Same. Loved that thing and the autobot one too.

>>6481540
And he's out of stock.

I had to do something at work, and that fast missed my chance

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>>6481564
>Implying it will even have a small bot
You will take the pmop retool and LIKE IT

>>6481649
It's not a retool though.

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>>6481629
The autobots are identical to the G1 versions but with improved articulation, the Cons got better transformations.

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>>6481629
Pounce.

>>6481657
It sucks they're so small I could see them fitting in with legends Optimus and Shockwave as in a seperate scale, personally I see the clones as being deluxe sized beside other bots.

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>>6481629
Wingspan.

>>6481660
They were bigger in Headmasters but kinda small in Rebirth.

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>>6481657
>>6481658
Goddamnit, what even is the point if they look identical, if not even inferior in terms of paintjob, to their G1 counterparts?

>>6481355
How's the Arcee mousepad? I saw it online, but china mousepads are funny quality, but I need dat wrist comfort.

>>6481669
It's great. Print quality is decent, materials feel OK and she's very comfy. Seriously, all memes aside it's so good for your wrist.

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>yet another Japanese leader has his character butchered
>Verity does nothing and is often off-model
>two c-listers (Jumpstarters) and dozens of literal who z-listers get killed but we're supposed to feel pathos for some reason
>Overlord is supposed to be a planetary-scale WMD and yet he jobs to four Autobots

Why are people crazy about this? It's okay but IDWers make it out to be THE masterpiece of TF fiction.

>>6481527
> Giving a fuck about the fanfic tier canon for any series.

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>>6481663
Takara took all the hot pink paint for their autoclones and ran away!

>>6481672
I felt sad for the z-listers since most of them were badass-looking Euro exclusives who were now finally having their big American debut on an IDW comic :(

>>6481671
soft and squishy silicon right?

>>6481676
honestly I've never been happy with how kill happy IDW has been with it's TF comics, a Transformer dying should be something extremely rare and hard to pull off

>>6481683
Yeah. Not ludicrously soft (otherwise it'd be no good because it's meant to provide support) but soft enough to keep your wrist happy and to have fun fondling.

>>6481692
>so many TFs we have z listers
let them die

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>>6481397
Hi.

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>>6481650
We've had no confirmation on this, all we know is that they seem similar in some aspects.

Btw, won't the Potp Leaders be more expensive now? Having a smaller figure with interaction should blow the previous budget.

>>6481672
>Overlord is supposed to be a planetary-scale WMD and yet he jobs to four Autobots

Guy literally gets his body filled with bombs, and exploded from the inside out, and still survives.

>No Movie Masterpiece Ironhide
Shit.
I actually like Bayformers Ironhide,the only toy that looks right is the deluxe one, but the articulation is shit.

>>6481700
>won't the Potp Leaders be more expensive now?

Nah, the leader class duocons already use lots of plastic,even then maybe thats why there are only 2 leader class molds for the first 4 waves.

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>>6481676
>>6481692
At the very least Ironfist should have remained alive, pulling the "he actually had cybertronian brain cancer all along!" just for a slightly grimmer ending was pretty fucking stupid.

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>>6481722

See Sins of the Wreckers?

>>6481640
Like around 2:00pm Eastern Time.

>>6481672
>>yet another Japanese leader has his character butchered

Overlord is the only exception to the rule.

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Overlord is up for pre-order on BBTS.

>>6481722
>stupid

No that is you if you completely miss all the hints he was dying and was only allowed to join his heroes as a potential sacrificial lamb for Aequitas.

>>6481738
>the Hasbro version
Solly, already preordered the good TakasaTony version.

>>6481743
I really hate what they did to the chest panels on the takara version. Both filling them with forever stuck in plastic pieces and making the chest panels themselves look misassembled.
Not to mention they made both headmasters come with a derp face.

>>6481746
Yeah, nothing about the Takara one makes it worth the extra cash. Hasbro is a-ok with me.

>>6481735
IDW Overlord is basically G1 Black Zarak
IDW Deathsaurus is G1 Overlord
IDW Gigatron is G1 Deathsaurus

It's a mess.

>>6481753

Thats OK, no one knew who they were before IDW anyway, except Japan. And no one gave a shit about them other than Japan before IDW.

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>>6481722
His death spurred me to buy my first 3rd party figure.

>>6481759
t. IDWcuck

>>6481763
Damn MechIdeas for disappearing. This guy is impossible to get for a reasonable price nowadays.

>>6481759
>no one knew who they were before IDW anyway, except Japan.

Masterforce and Victory dub reruns were transmited in latinoamerica and some european countries from early to mid 90s, Mexican here, Masterforce was the first TF cartoon I saw.

>>6481598
>Talk about stuff which was merely posited during concept design
>call Animated shit for it

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>>6481771
>impossible to get
>AND exploding knees
>AND no KO company seems to have the molds so no chance for it to be reissued

>>6481775
>>AND exploding knees
Haven't had this problem with mine, but then I'm pretty careful with it.

>>6481771
>check ebay for Mech Ideas
>tons and tons of their Topspin/Twintwist up for sale
figures

>>6481704
Source?

Are there any effects for shrapnel and sonic waves?
I'm looking up effects for my UW Combaticons to try to make them accurate to the GEEWUN bios and they have a weird obsession with sonic guns. And how the fuck would the beam of a gyro gun look like?

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>>6481777
Same. Although I did find this guy who takes super nice pictures of the figures he's selling.

>>6481791
I always thought that a retooled Crossovers Captain America would make a decent Ironfist but he is a small guy, right?
The crossover figures were slightly shorter than voyagers IIRC.

>>6481772
1) No one cares about Mexico

2) Hasbro Asia knows about it and they don't give a shit.

>>6481800
As of right now, I'd happily take a redeco of TR Brawn with a new head.

>>6481635
>the colors aren't even all that consistent with the original Tidal Wave.
They're consistent with his cartoon colors and japanese toy. The American toy did its own thing.

>>6481788
Get a hotglue gun and some paint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkwDG4kV9UM

>>6481802
The animes were transmited in several latinoamerican and european countries, just because you didn't knew about them it doesn't mean they don't have fans, we are more than used to import our shit, you'll be surprised of how many japanese stuff we collect over here.

>>6481672
Every single one of your complaints is a sign of braintletism.

>>6481700
Frankly if he was a retool that'd be fucking retarded, they should've just left it as is but with a transforming cab.

Cogman's out in asia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ReTximzR4M

>>6481819
Great.
>still tons of Bumblebees, Slashes and Berserkers as far as the eye can see
Thanks, Walmart.

>>6481821
It's probably the first time I've seen the deluxe wave stay on shelves for so long. Thank God I mostly wanted the voyagers, and all 3 waves already came out.

>>6481700
I love Rodimus Prime and I want that toy to be good.

>>6481823
>OP's and Grimlocks as far as the eye can see
Must be nice.

>>6481763
I want that adorable little bastard so bad.

>>6481828
Yeah, it was crazy since TRU got Hound/Megatron one week, then I found Nitro in a Walmart the next week.

>>6481823
One of the perks of living in Baltimore County is there's five million places within driving distance worth checking for toys and I haven't seen any wave two or beyond voyagers or deluxes at any of them. Only reason I have Scorn is because that wave showed up at a Walmart I went to in upstate New York. Feels like the state of movie figures just gets worse and worse with every new toyline.

>>6481838
>upstate new york
>I live in upstate NY

Only thing on the shelves out here is fucking Wave 1 TR and a flock of movie garbage that both looks like a windstorm hit it, and yet, is not missing a single figure from the pegs. I can only guess people were looking for more TR stuff behind it.

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>>6481821
Target's no better off

>>6481858
That could be my Target for all I know. Looks literally the same.

>>6481858
I'm seeing lots of unsold Kups lately, wonder why.

>>6481858
I'd like to buy Beserker, but I'm not paying £30 pounds for a deluxe.

>>6481865
Berserker's the one deluxe you're guaranteed to find in stores, Slash to a lesser extent.

>>6481864
takara wins again?

>>6481868
I know, hopefully there'll be a major price drop.

>>6481864
>>6481869
Obviously it's because people hate the post-movie G1 seasons just like they hate BW.

>>6481871
Good to know there are still some standards being held.

Did the mods seriously delete the Marshal Law post? It's a good meme and a good friend too.

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>>6481826
Same here. I'm a poorfag though, one of these might go on a sale right?

>>6481875
You know the rules, no complaining about 'based mods'.

>>6481879
Given that it's essentially three figures for roughly 8 months, you're probably bound to see a 25% off sale at Toys R Us if you wait long enough.

>>6481879
>>6481895
Man, three times the same Rodimus figure in three waves. That thing is going to shelf warm like crazy. I mean fuck, if at least it got a remold into a new character (and not just a repaint) it MIGHT do better given we got Soundwave and Blaster close to each others as Leaders during TR but I can't imagine Rodimus being that much in demand that he'd be released three times.

Hell there isn't even a Leader-class 'con in that lineup, its all Autobots. Well, presumably an evil version of an Autobot and a Maximal but you get my point.

>>6481864
Because he is an old rust bucket?

>>6481864
What I see are entire walls worth of TR Galvatron.

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u knoe who needs a POTP?

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>>6481917
I DO

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Sixshot looks great everytime I don't hold it in my hands. But why does his legs look garbage? Would there ever be an upgrade kit for them?

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>>6481925
SHIT!! WRONG PIC

>>6481925
Wait a fucking minute, that Sonic Mania game is gonna be playable on the original Genesis?? My interest level just spiked.

>>6481916
The closest Walmart to me is sitting on wave 1 TR deluxes and countless CW Silverbolts

>>6481933
What the fuck. Where do you live? Even in my coastal village we have wave 2 in stock.

>>6481933
Dude, people would KILL for a retailer like that near them.

>>6481932
Nope. Is a dummy.

>>6481943
Well fuck

>>6481935
My local wallyworld also has a glut of wave 1 still clogging shelves, no CW stuff though just endless Blurrs and Scourges and some stray Chromedomes to boot.

>>6481914
Consider it Rodimus's revenge for being sidelined for decades.

>>6481947
Hey don't get me wrong I plan to get Rodimus but there's no way I'm buying more than one barring a retool into somebody cool.

>>6481954
I'm gonna be pretty angry if they never retool him into Thunderclash.
Not like John "Sticker Stickler" Warden will give a shit.

>>6481961
Wouldn't PotP Optimus Prime retooling make a better Thunderclash?

>>6481772
honestly I'm amazed they never tried bringing over the Japanese G1 series back in the day, or bringing over their exclusive molds

>>6481483
>I hope we get modern versions of them soon
NOT G1, NOT IN BUDGET

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>>6481964
idunno, his trailer looks closer to Rodimus' and we have no idea what the engineering will be like or whether or not the cores will be interchangeable.

I just want my Yurobots before they are replaced by third world bots.

>>6481995
>Swedebot 1.0

>>6481598
Could be worse. They could've made it so Transformers were just robot slaves made on a planet-sized factory for a race of five-headed retard aliens. Imagine how shit a series would be if that was its backstory.

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>accidentally scratch some paint off of my Overboard's Dinosaur head

HE WAS MY FAVORITE /toy/

I DONT WANT TO BUY A NEW ONE IT WONT BE THE SAME
ITS NOT EVEN MAJOR BUT I JUST CANT DEAL WITH IT

>>6482003
I don't see what's so bad about that backstory.

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>>6481995
>third world bots.
But I want muh modern Y Z robotmen!

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>>6481626
no
energon WHEN?

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>>6481995
Forgot to add, that yellow bot already has an update.

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>>6481995
Same thing here, hopefully we get the main ones in a few years or so. They'll have to head into G2 territory sooner or later and the Turbomasters are practically "transitional" toys for the era.

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>>6482033
There were also some significant Yuro exclusives in G2. And don't forget about the Action Master Elites.

>>6481995
> we have no idea what the engineering will be like or whether or not the cores will be interchangeable
God I hope not. That's a surefire to instantly kneecap your engineering.

>>6482033
>>6482038
Those dudes 1) are z-listers and 2) are dead in the comics.

>>6482062
What is this beautiful little robosuit?

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>>6482007

Just paint it. Or buy another. Overboard is one of the guys that sticks on shelves. Plus he's also been reissued in other TM waves to boot. Most stores can't get rid of him. Damn shame too, his face sculpt is marvelous and his TM gun/vehicle is one of the better ones.

>>6482051
They all have good designs and deserve toys because of that.
Character-based sales strategies were a mistake.

>>6482062
>Takaracucks are wanking to repainted kids' toys instead of actually impressive adult collectibles like DIACLONE

really cooks my noodle

>>6482051
Without the C-to-Z lister all we're ever going to see are the early batch of characters from the G1 cartoon. I mean sure, we get an Optimus and a Megatron each toyline but I'd be happy to see more late G1 and G2 characters get new toys rather than yet another Bumblebee.

>>6482007
He was priced at like 1 dollar at Wal Mart last week.

>>6482033
Rotorstorm is actually a pretty cool looking toy.

>>6482077
I need a new Landfill and Quickmix to go with my Scoop.

>>6482077
I'd be happy with more BW, UT, and TFA figures but Warden-sama won't have it.

>>6482071
Tight budget.

>>6482067
>>6482076
Gorgeous Diaclone 2.0. So expensive but so god damn nice

>>6482051
Only a few of them are dead, and that's in the old IDW continuity. Ironfist and Thunder Clash are fairly prominent in the Wings universe.

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>>6482085
It's such a little guy though, surely they can't be that expen-

>>6482090
>the Wings universe
The universe that was so shit that even FunPub dropped it hardly seems relevant to the discussion.

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>>6482091
FEEL THE TRUE POWER OF TAKARA

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>>6482101

I really want one of the Masterpiece Tracks mold toys, but I also know there are a lot of problems with them.

What does /toy/ recommend? KOs are certainly contenders too if the quality is satisfactory.

>>6482091
As nice as those look, they can fuck right off with that pricing. You can't even use the fucking paint excuse with these fuckers.

>>6482084
I would too but right now IDW and classic G1 pandering is all the rage. We're already lucky to get a new Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus.

>>6481954
Hasbro clearly wants us to buy at least two to make up for the original Rodimus Prime figure.

Here's hoping the new one doesn't suck.

>>6482120
I mean, buy a TR Hot Rod AND a Rodimus? Sure that I would have had I found Hot Rod in store (and might still if I ever do find him collecting dust in a shitty shop) but I'm just not super keen on buying his repaint. Truth is, I would not mind buying multiple PotP Leaders but at least one of each mold. Rodimus and Primal I plan to get...maybe Optimus if he's not too bad, as my only Optimus figure is the War for Cybertron one. I don't even have a semi-proper G1 Optimus since I started collecting around the tail end of CW. Anything else I got in my collection is from my childhood, which is to say Beast Wars.

That's one reason I've been eager for some of the late G1 characters in TR and PotP: these were my first vehicle transformers, usually bought in some shitty store as a kid or as a KO in an even shittier store. I,ve got some fond memories of these 'z-lister' as people call them.

>>6482117
If I remember correctly the KO of Tracks is better than the original

>>6482135
That's what some reviews are saying. Would be great if an anon here has had hands-on experience with both though.

Diaclone

>>6482117
The one that looks like KITT.

>tfw black autobot repaint never

>>6482117
If you purely want a version of the mold regardless of character, Road Rage is the cheapest all around but doesn't come with a stand.

The only thing the KO changes are rubber tires.

>>6482161
Amazon has Road Rage (not KO) for 41 dollars. Is that the cheapest price?

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Unrelated to anything, how's Bulkhead? I saw some pictures of him and suddenly something about his look really appealed to me. Like his robot mode is surprisingly gundam-esque and I love that add on weaponry and everything.

>Primitive Optimus apparently being retconned into Ginrai by IDW

Great toy sold out and now he's becoming a real character.

>>6482186
You'll wish he had more outward hip ratchets, but other than that, really solid.

>>6481725
For fucks sake, I checked before then and again just about the time that anon said it's sold out, I'm really getting sick of things I want going on sale with no announcement and selling out immediately.

>>6481925
Proof that it's actually /v/ who shits these threads

>>6482227
Was he worth 61 dollars to you? If so, then my condolences.

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So, what was even the point of making a smaller, inferior version of Hot Rod?

>>6482278
the chest and face look better

>>6482278
Scale.

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>>6482205
>Primitive Optimus apparently being retconned into Ginrai by IDW

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>>6482281
Sure, the headsculpt is an improvement, but the chest? It's literally just a fucking square, the old one at the very least had some form of anthropomorphic shape to it. Plus, the limbs look pathetically disporportionate in comparison.

>>6482284
Makes sense, but wouldn't it just be easier to downscale the original one instead of making a shittier one?

>>6482288
>wouldn't it just be easier to downscale the original one instead of making a shittier one?

The original one has a fuck ton of tolerance and design issues that would become even worse if they just downscaled it.

>>6482205
Have a source?

>>6482284
>>6482287
I thought FunPub where the guys who randomly repurposed toys into other characters.

>>6482288
>Sure, the headsculpt is an improvement, but the chest? It's literally just a fucking square, the old one at the very least had some form of anthropomorphic shape to it. Plus, the limbs look pathetically disporportionate in comparison.
I dont know man, I still like the smaller one better.

>>6482288
>>6482290
Sadly this, I have the Hasbro version and he can hardly bend his elbows by this point after barely half a decade of display, his arms just sort of flop to his sides. Sure, he does look better than the new one, but he's also flimsy to an abysmal level.

I thought Masterpiece was the line of perfect toys for people who were willing to spend a little more. But the more I read into it, the more it seems like just the same shit with the standard line with tolerance issues, loose joints, scratchable paint, badly designed backpacks, etc etc.

About the only thing it seems to have over regular toys is more articulation and more cartoon accuracy (which I'm not autistic enough to care about).

>>6482186
Was there a Whirl head swap of this mold? The t30 is kinda crap.

>>6482306
To add, even the "more articulation" thing is questionable. So many toys have only 90 degrees or even less elbow bend, when there are plenty of regular toys with double-jointed elbows that allow for a full bend.

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>>6482278
>inferior
>to that old hunk of garbage

>>6482306

The MP line is basically complexity+better matching of the characters. QC can be a real shitshow at times, and some molds are just trash (see: any of the Seeker molds). Usually they're solid on the whole though. The only real fuckups in the past few MP's I know of are

Hotrod: Chrome can be kinda shitty. But it's chrome. It's gonna end up shitty no matter what. Otherwise haven't heard of any flaws.

Primal: Can possibly scratch his 'botmode faceplate if you don't transform him juuuuust right, he has basically super tight clearance. Otherwise no flaws.

Cheetor: Too tight joints in some cases, leading to breakages. Not too widespread, but be careful if it feels too tight.

Megatron: Paint issues galore. Transforming him basically is a 100% chance to scratch him, and his silencer attachment is a 50/50 chance of breaking him because it's just way too tight. Pretty much the poster boy for not dousing an entire figure in paint.

Ironhide & Ratchet: Paint chipping issues, though apparently not really too widespread, but once again the issue arises from dousing the whole fucking thing in paint.

Inferno and Grapple: Haven't heard of any real issues other than Grapple's crane being hard to move, probably due to, you guessed it, paint fucking with the tolerances because they doused it all in paint.

...You know, the more I type this, the more it feels like the real issue in the MP line currently is the obsession with painting a figure like it's a glazed donut.

>>6481307
I want a BB8 that transforms into a Rey :3

>>6482319
>Phasma that turns into a garbage masher

>>6482306
Pretty much seems that way, yeah. The only MP I have though is MP-28. I haven't been able to decide which figure to get next. I like Hot Rod a lot, but the transformation isn't that fun or interesting and the backpack is kind of underwhelming. Still a cool toy, though.

My issue with getting more MPs is really just the price. Paying $40+ for a cool toy isn't at all an offensive idea to me, but once we get up to $70+ it's harder for me to part with my money and it becomes harder to overlook the problems they share with the standard line you mention.

I might get MP Prowl next, or one of his moldmates. That one seems solid. I expect more cartoon-styled MPs to follow, though.

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>>6482318
You forgot to mention how Artfire's hips can be so tight they strip the plastic holding him together, although that just might be me

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>>6482319
>AT-ST that turns into a Rich Evans

>>6482335
It's just going to use that shitty beastformer transformation where the ATST stands on its hind legs.

>>6482333
You've been the only instance I've heard of, I think, although the leg joints on mine certainly are tight as fuck, same on Grapple.

>>6482278
I still want a fixed reissue of MP09

MP28 can eat a dick

>>6482318
>Haven't heard of any real issues other than Grapple's crane being hard to move

That's actually just due to the crane arm being held up by a hard ratchet that's just retardedly strong for what it needs to do. I ended up taking my grapple apart to remove the ratchet joint and it's much better now.

>>6482345
The hips on hip are just tight in general. You can't disassemble them fully because lol lets glue everything, but if you can just crack open the crotch a little bit to drizzle lubricant inside of him, it helps a ton.

Does Jazz have any good 3P figures or am I better off waiting for Takara's inevitable MP take?

I like the character but somehow don't have a figure. I could always just get the RTS figure from awhile back I guess. I stopped buying TFs around that time.

>>6482365

Maketoys Downbeat is the current best of the lot.

>>6482354
>just crack open the crotch a little bit to drizzle lubricant inside of him
Lewd, anon. But I'll give it a try.

>>6482365
>Takara's inevitable MP take?

Not is porsche has anything to say about it

>>6482349
But it's excellent...

Nova breado:

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>>6482236
It was a complete accident, I used the wrong picture by mistake

>>6482333
That's because you play with it in every fucking thread

>>6481509

Holy shit are those Diaclone power suits really that small? I mean I knew they were small but that exceeds all expectations.

>>6481864
I have yet to see anything after the Hot Rod wave. Most stores are packed with Highbrow/Chromedomes

>>6482296
Well someone has to fill that unwanted void.

>>6482081
Seconded, I have one kicking around that I bought off a bud years ago
No chopper blade, but he's tough as shit

New figs are just not built to last in the same way, would let my kid play with/10

>>6482579
I'm not the guy that would constantly talk about it, I hadn't transformed my Artfire in like a week and when I tried moving his legs down for robot mode it just fell off