Gunpla/Plamo General

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Frame Arms Group Build

This time the idea is to build any Frame Arms, or Frame Arms Girl kit, and paint and customize it.

The rules are overall pretty simple, the base must be recognizable as FA or FA Girl, other than that there's no limit on what you can do.

Due Date: September 1st

Note: This is a prize build, there will be a prize provided by me, there will also be a mystery prize provided by another anon. That means that to enter, I need WIP pictures submitted before the due date. Simply email me some pictures of you working on it, I don't care at what point, as long as it's possible to tell where your final product came from.

Prize Pack:
MSG Free Style Bazooka
MSG Impact Knuckle
MSG Beast Sword
MSG Assault Rifle #2
Miscellaneous supplies

I'm probably going to add more, but I'll let those be a secret.

Email: [email protected]

I'm also available via IRC and Steam.

did old thread die?

>>6454157
>Old Thread: >>6434325 → (You) (Cross-thread)
???

Repost from old thread:

Are the GP nippers worth the extra 25 dollars over the 410s?

>>6454174
so why make a new thread?

>>6454184
Gelgoog guy is a newfag

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asking for feedback, this is meant to be loosely based on Lancer from Fate Stay Night

I was thinking about either scratch building his red lance or modding the Rex's fuck you mace

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>https://hlj.com/product/WAVCS-022
Intriguing

>>6454264
>loosely based on Lancer from Fate Stay Night
Which Lancer? Cu? There's not a lick of red on him aside from the spear and I think even that was a bad design choice. Needless to say, I'm not a fan of that color scheme in the least.

Quoting my awnser to the person asking about the Dantalion. >>6454463

I remember someone saying in one of these threads that the best reference for the ideal consistency of paint was milk.
Where I live canned evaporated milk is denser than carton milk, is this the same case for burgerland? Which one should I use as a reference?

>>6454511
at this point it'll be easier to just watch a youtube video on it

>>6454174
I forget to copy it sometimes.

Old thread: >>6444685


>>6454181
It depends, if you think you're going to enjoy the hobby, yeah go for it, they'll save you some time and frustration. Otherwise, just get the 410s, or Squadron nippers, or Tamiya, or any of the other cheaper nippers, because you can always buy the GP nippers down the line.

How long should you wait till wet sanding mr sufacer? When its dry or till its cured?

>>6454566
24hr is generally enough but I sanded it within 5 min of spraying on a few occasions.

>>6454582
Is it normal for the primer to spread around the piece when wet sanding. I just wipe it off but i think i'm sanding too early

Is there a blanket term/database for models that aren't "gundams" (mobile suits?) IE: Zaku, Gyan, etc.

I want to look through all of them and see if there are any that jump out at me other than gyancelot and char's.

What is the actual difference between GP and god hands? If I'm not building 20 kits a day, does it really matter? I do about 1 kit a week or 2.

>>6454612
God Hands are a meme, get GP. I don't think anyone here would defend spending 15-35 dollars more for them.

>>6454605
It's not every model ever, but dalong.net has a pretty decent compendium. Just click a category, click the English Catalog button and away you go.

>>6454617
Yeah, I have them and I'd agree, I won't buy another pair at $50. If you could get them for closer to $40 with shipping it'd be worth it.

>>6454617
GP is a meme, Godhand is a meme, saying "___ is a meme" is a meme. Point is, results matter, and Godhand gives amazing results.

Seems to me, that the Gundam Planet shill is trying REALLY hard to get people to buy those nippers. Well that's fine and all, but God Hand are the best nippers I have ever used, and I am not going to go out and buy some cheaper ones to test the theory, lol.

>>6454624
>If you could get them for closer to $40 with shipping it'd be worth it.
Can't you? These are the memepers in question here, right? https://hlj.com/product/GODSPN-120
If you ship them with something else you're right on the money.

>>6454626
GH's are not remotely worth it over 50 bucks. They're 68 dollars for prime shipping or 50 for long shipping on amazon which is ridiculous.

If you remotely value your builds, it doesn't matter which you use because you'll be removing the nub more than just a clip - and probably be painting.

You're the shill.

>>6454632
Yeah if you're willing to wait, go for it, but I know HLJ can take a while to get more in.

>>6454632
That shipping speed makes me want to vomit.

>>6454633
>over 50 bucks.
They are about $40 anon. Stop shopping at the highest priced stores.

Getting my first ever MG - should I get Turn A or Char's Zaku? I was drawn to these for design and that they are both sub 40 dollars - which seemed to be rare for MG's. If both are mediocre/bad I'd consider something different. (Other than 78-2)

>>6454638
I mean you're not wrong, but between shipping and/or the insane wait, it really devalues the 40 dollar tag.

>>6454635
>>6454637
You guys don't preorder anything then, huh? Anyway, you can hold your vomit, HobbySearch has them for like $43. Again, bundle them and you're at like $45 shipped. Why is everyone talking about buying the things from Amazon where we know they're overpriced, anyway?

>>6454639
Turn A comes with a cow, if that influences your decision.

>>6454639
Turn and the Zaku II 2.0 are among the better MGs.

>>6454650
I preorder kits all the time, but when I ordered my pair of God Hands I weighed my impatience vs them being in stock and said fuck it.

>>6454659
>>6454668
How is the Seravee 1/100?

>>6454677
Haven't built one, but by all accounts, the 1/100 00 line is pretty solid.

>>6454511
What I do is that I tilt the paint container after mixing in each drop of thinner, the paint should run off the sides but leave a thin film behind, that's when you know the paint is self-leveling.

>want to start painting
>know how
>don't know what the fuck to buy or how to decide on which colors, etc.

God dammit. Do I just get a cheap HG zaku or something?

>>6454698
Something cheap that has lineart available is what you're going to want so a Zaku is a decent place to start. You use Photoshop or whatever image editor you have to mockup the paint colors, then proceed to mix paint to match and get to work.

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>>6454698
buy megami device

>>6454706
Why do I need panel lining and photoshop?

>>6454622
not what he is asking at all. he is not asking for plamo that is not gunpla, he is asking for gunpla that is not a gundam.
>>6454605
sadly I don't think there are any good search terms for that. I mean the closest you can get is look for the bad guy faction of every series and look them up, they are guaranteed to have far fewer Gundams.

Heck just checking the mech list by faction of every series can help you narrow down from a glance which is a gundam and what isn't.

>>6454712
Not panel lining, lineart. It's in relation to your
>how to decide on which colors, etc.
issue. Lineart is a picture of the Gendum in question without any color added, so just the lines. You can use an image editor to apply possible color schemes to get a feel for how they look like >>6454264 did.

>>6454720
Ah I see what you're saying. Is there a database for that anywhere?

>>6454712
Checkout the seesaawiki link, it has line art in it.

>>6454718
Are you retarded or something? Dalong is mostly Gunpla.

>>6454633
>If you remotely value your builds, it doesn't matter which you use because you'll be removing the nub more than just a clip - and probably be painting.
>tfw removing nubs from 1000+ pieces in 3 days
>3-5 nubs per piece
thank goodness for my GodHand(TM) because it saved me a clip per nub and that's 3000+ clips

>>6454807
Why would you ever double clip? I don't even get what you are trying to say.

>>6454819
>he doesn't double clip

Not even that guy. I clip once with my trusty Xuron 2175ET away from the nub and then with my GP nippers to remove the nub.

>>6454819
a single part on the sprue is connected by multiple gates
also,
>he doesnt double clip

>>6454867
>>6454870
I don't get the benefit of this, can you explain it then? Why wouldn't you just cut it relatively close with GP/GH and then sand?

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Ninja is up for PO.
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10481484

http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/mg100/mg100_p.htm

Has this been panel lined?

>>6454902
Dalong panel lines everything as part of his review

>>6454905
Fuck. Is there a master guide without it? He goes really heavy/thick.

>>6454905
>>6454902
Turn A looks better without panel lining, or with a very light non marker approach if you're that guy.

>>6454889
all of my yes

Geara Doga MG is a great build right? It has awesom reviews.

>>6454887
A single cut will leave more residue behind because you're unlikely to be able to place the blade of the nippers totally flat on the piece when it's still on the runner. That's the reasob most gunpla manuals recommend you cut twice.

It's also worth using a separate nipper to do the initial cuts since by nature the first cut is through thicker plastic. That way you can preserve the edge on your main pair longer.

>>6454920
Yeah its fantastic, lots of bulk and accessories and pretty good articulation. Just got me a second one

>>6454907
He does it on purpose so that people can see the panel lines. It would be hatd to see the details on white models if he didnt.

>>6454957
Forgot to mention how much the tubing is annoing on the kit though. As bad as zaku tubes are, especially with how they mess your fingers up, at least they're stable compared to these rubber pieces of shit on the Doga

I want to get into painting, and for what I understand, I just need to buy primer + a few spray paints. I am not looking to do weathering or anything yet.

Am I correct in what I'm saying? Should i buy Tamiya?

>>6455000
you should buy an airbrush

>>6455002
I'm not going to buy an airbrush for my first ever paint. I will definitely do that if I enjoy painting though.

>>6455000
You can buy any spraypaint, but Tamiya ones have a nozzle that makes the paint come out in a finer mist compared to ones used for painting cars.

For a quick job, yes, just was the parts (optional) prime and then paint. If you're not gonna be touching a whole lot, top coat is optional as well.

If you do get the feel for painting, getting an airbrush will save you a whole lot of money, since spraycans costs too much and a lot of wastage on overspray. The initial cost may seem a bit high but the saving on the long run is hundredfold.

You can splurge out for a 5 million dollar compressor + 15k dollar airbrush like people here do on your first go or sacrifice 50 bucks on a Chinese kit to get the hang of it and get better equipment later on.

>>6455023
If I want really matte finishes, do I still do a topcoat? Is that just like a sealant?

I do not want it shiny.

>>6455049
You can get semi gloss and matte topcoat

>>6454976
I found the fit alright apart from the tubes on the shins, they popped out a couple of times during assembly but once they're in and everything's put together, it's all good.

The worst part was lining them, though. It took fucking forever and my fingertips were absolutely coated in ink by the time I was done.

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Finished some stuff

Need some glue for it.

>>6454889

>not up at any of the customs dodging places yet

Guess I'll just have to monitor the sites the entire day.

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Looking good.

Now if only they'd release it sometime this century.

>>6455023
I dunno, I wouldn't want to cheap out on something that could explode and kill me with the shrapnel.

>>6455220
its not going to. buy a chink compressor and a cheap badger

>>6455237
>air compressor puts too much air into the cheap chinkshit tank
>tank fails and explodes
>piece of metal flies by and cuts my carotid open
>bleed to death all over my nice PG, ruining the paint job

>>6455242
Dude pressure measuring is ancient technology, also those motors would probably fail and release air before hitting the tank's limit

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>>6455242
>air compressor puts too much air into the cheap chinkshit tank
>tank fails and starts leaking air
>dive behind your sturdy non-chink ikea furniture and await the eventual explosion
>you frown to yourself as nothing happens
>go out and buy a proudly Made In Anywhere But China air tank
>hook it up and resume spraying

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>>6455283
>>6455242
Air tanks, even cheap shit chink ones, have a pressure release on them that when the pressure gets too high will automatically releases the extra air. The emergency release is the red thing on the tank in pic related.

>>6455308
Who is this smug semen demon

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>>6455355
Gourai. And she'is autistic, be nice to her.

>>6455360
>she's autistic
Where do I get one so I can be nice to her

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Time travel to before the anime aired. Or pay $50+ on Amazon.

>>6455374
She's 3.9k yen used on amiami. Shipping will end up being ehhh but if you're already placing an order then you're in luck.

>>6455374
>$72
For that price she'd have to enthusiastically stare into my eyes while I pet her head.
Reprint when.

>>6455369
you can look around on some of the weeb stores like Hobby Search or Amiami. A lot is sold out there and the prices for the fully armored kits are still kinda shit but they're at least somewhat better prices than scamazon

>>6455380
>he buys used girls

>>6455383
I don't think the kits are already built if you buy them used?

>>6455387
>The joke went over his head.

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Its all about the ninja now
based nidy

>>6455392
Doesn't look autistic enough for my tastes.

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>>6455392
I'm a retard, pic was already posted above
Have a different one

>>6455393
thats fine too, gourai acute

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I recently got this fucking SLUT but I'm scared to start building her.
The clear parts are really pretty though. Really nice coating.

>>6455391
I thought there was concern over hotglued figures. Unless you freaks hotglue them while they're still on the runners.

>>6455398
I want to hotglue a couple of my figures, but my problem is the cleaning up after. Doesn't it get stuck in the joints?

>>6455397
fags are pretty easy, only thing you have to worry about is tight tolerances and some fragile parts here and there(looking at you retarded neck joint)

>>6455397
I got that smug cunt. Super happy with how she turned out. She's defiantly my favorite fag so far even though she can look kind of ridiculous with all her equipment on her

>>6455392

Can she come up for preorder on the sites I prefer?

Though banzai hobby seems to not have a good coverage when it comes to megami devices, so maybe they won't have them for preorder at all?

I might have to use nippon-yasan. Appearantly a bitch to deal with but I've been lucky so far.

>>6455392
Why can't Japan make thicc mecha musume?

>>6455416
Already on amiami
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-032213

I'm going to become a FAGgot and buy all of the mecha girls...

>>6455418

This wave of megami devices are less sticks that the previous one.

>>6455420

Doesn't dodge customs for me so I'm not getting it from there. It's up on hobbysearch as well, but same deal with them. So far nippon-yasan and banzai-hobby have like a 100% chance of dodging customs so I'd prefer from one of those.

I'd rather not pay like 50% of the price of the kit in combined tax and customs fees.

>>6455360
>She's Autistic
She got better.

>>6455392
Nidy? More like Tidy, amirite?

>>6454709
when can I order this.

>>6455600
now

>>6455601
I don't see her on HLJ

>>6453375
Thanks for the advice. By tweaking it, you mean all the power settings, passes etc?

>>6455614
She's not there yet because HLJ is always last. Wait it out for them or F5 Amiami and HS where she's up but out of stock for now.

Where can I purchase stuff from with decent shipping times/prices other than amazon with prime? I don't want to wait weeks for stuff

>>6455117
I can't even find the 1/144 Vatshu they released anywhere.

What's the best American retailer for preordering shit? I want to have the RG Unicorn and MG ZZ Ver. Ka as fast as possible, but I'd rather not pay buttfuck prices for EMS and then also pay for customs.

>>6455725
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1069717219&ref=list
Found it in five seconds. Raise your game.

>>6455733
BBTS(they even get exclusives)

Also look up Gundam Store and More. I haven't ordered with them in forever, but they had never let me down before.

Amazon also gets a lot of them, of course you have to wait like 2 months extra for them to come in stock.

>>6455486
>She got better
Say it ain't so.

What is a good HG model to do for my first paint? I'm just going to do primer then a matte coat on top.

>>6454320
>https://hlj.com/product/WAVCS-022

This is useful how?

>>6456040
Go with something simple and cheap so you don't waste a good kit if you fuck up. Something like a GM or maybe one of the IBO kits should work because they're decently cost effective.

What are some good OOB kits that will take me a long time to build, and that I can go ham with Gundam markers?

>>6455956
Sorry bruv, she even has facial expressions by the end.

>>6456075
any PG

>>6456086
I'm going to cry.

>>6456092
Don't, you'll make Gourai cry too!

>>6456090
Sorry, should have mentioned that I'm looking for cheapish kits.

Does the GM Sniper II look ok OOB? I have it in my backlog but I'm considering saving it until I move and get my airbrush in 3 months.

>>6456200
Look on Dalong lad.

>>6455678
HLJ and AmiAmi both offer good shipping speeds if you pay for EMS, otherwise it's RSAL.

>>6455733
I used USA Gundam Store for my XN Raiser preorder.

>>6456216
Im not a fan of the "to be determined" shipping cost of amiami. I'd like to know the final total before I commit

>>6456244
Yeah that's an issue from time to time with AmiAmi, I got hit with forced EMS on Rayfalx. But HLJ usually gives you a good estimate (also private warehouse).

>>6456247
Is EMS from one site going to be about the same on another? I'm tired of waiting on SAL, but paying more for shipping than the kit itself puts me off

>>6456267
EMS is faster than SAL

>>6456267

EMS is generally the same all around but some shits ship faster

>>6456267
Yeah it generally is, within ~100 yen.

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Be honest guys, did I waste my money?

>>6456296
It's not a custom (P-Bandai) Shiden but it's okay.

>>6456296
I've heard the Shiden is one of the best IBO HGs

How long until Bandai offers P-Bandai kits that are painted by a printer on the runners for perfect color accuracy?

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>>6456309
Some of the koto muv-luv kits have pre-painted details on pieces still in their runners. Shoulders on this one have pre-painted details

>>6456267
>>6456247
Amazon is slightly more pricey on some items, but god damn is it fast.

>>6456309
>that are painted by a printer on the runners
Hopefully never.

>>6456296
I personally think you did if it were me. But if you like them, then no you didnt

Any qt robo waifu plamos that a total beginner can build?

>>6456644
More daughteru than waifu, but you could hunt down a Kotobukiya Roll if you don't want to jump straight into Megami Devices/FAGs.

>>6456658
So I found out what a Megami Device is, but what's a FAG? Other than a homosexual.

>>6456572
You know, with clever gating there wouldn't be any nubs.

>>6456704
Me-... oh.
It also means Frame Arms Girl. It could also mean Full Armor Gundam, but usually it's the girls

>>6456296
Those G Unit Wing kits need a damn rerelease. I want the one you got and the Hydra.
As far as waste of money goes, you have a physical thing that you like, after giving the money. It's not like after a night of hookers and blow, when you have nothing to show for it but tha clap and a stuffy nose.

>>6456713
I like the Full Armor Gundam.

I see girls with robot parts here... Are there any that look somewhat like parts of knight optimus prime or a classic gundam?

>>6456713
>>6456719
In the case of thunderbolt its called the FAGT.

>>6456719
FAGFAG when? I want a FUCKING INVINCIBLE daughter.

>>6456713
Anything more... Robotic? Like an actual mecha waifu? Kinda like these but more feminine?

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10474022

>>6456767
I wouldn't mind a FUCKING daughter if you understand my meaning.

>>6456709
>Bandai
>Clever gating

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>>6456776
So mechs with feminine aesthetics? GN-Archer's the first one that comes to mind for me. You could have a look at Dalong's catalogs to see what else hits your buttons.

Qubeley's also always struck me as feminine, in an alien/80's sort of way.

>>6456797
Yeah Femninine Mechs. Those are very appealing to me. Know anything similar to this?

http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/3568/figma+Black+Lotus.html

>>6456838
>>6456797
Also I found this, which is very much in line with what I'm looking for.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10130556

And then this was the only other thing from the same people that looked similar, but isn't as feminine.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10465646

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>>6456888
what about a robot school girl

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Really grasping for straws here, but do any of you guys know where the kitbashed armour bits came from?

>>6456898
That's actually pretty funny.

>>6456898
God I want nobel master grade so bad. I wish they'd make one.

Frame Arms Girl Durga when? I love Knight Girls.

>>6456907
>muh seiba #93712456
Pretty sure most of it is scratch built from plaplate sheets.

>>6457027
Seiba is literal perfection. I would trade all of my Gunpla for Seibas if I was offered the opportunity to do so.
>tfw no PG Artoria

>>6457027
God, you're making me wanna buy some pla plate now no matter how much of a pain it is to work with

>>6457044
And by PG I mean a 1/4 scale model.

>>6457044
female arturia is one of the worst fate characters

>>6457059
You take that back you savage animal

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>>6456304
>>6456301
>>6456599
>>6456716
Nobody told me the sticker sheets were in yellowtalk what the fuck

>>6457069
Just match the character to the character, it's no different than a number really.
The IBO kits are better for English (and I presume moving forward we will see a standard of Japanese/English mix) but at the end of the day you did buy a Japanese product.

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>>6456907
A bunch of those are from Bandai's Code Geass Alexander (there's a few of them), I would know since I've given up on finishing painting mine 3 times now, fuck this thing

>>6457089
Oh my jesus, thanks anon!

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>dat face
>dose knees
get your shit together bandai, even volks is doing a better job at this

>>6457162
>why isn't it selling?

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>>6457162
Its funny seeing the kings of gunpla struggle so much on something everyone else seems to get right, if they'd just let go of their restrictive HG practices and put a bit of money in they could easily take a piece of Koto's pie.
I suppose they don't feel like investing as much as an entire new line or models above 20$ just for a niche, but why even bother making them shitty HGs when the casuals won't care for them and the people who want cute girls will go to Koto instead. A Gunpla equivalent of the AGP line featuring more than just build fighter stuff, with MG budgets and good sculpts would print money.
I think Bandai has really underestimated the value of more expensive but high quality kits, its all HGs nowadays, when there is still a lot of money to be made from experienced builders or hobbyist willing to spend more than kids would, which overlaps with the more "mature" audience FAGs and MDs appeal to.

>>6457223
I like HGs, they're a cheap way to get my hands on a whole bunch of mobile suits.
That said, I do like to buy MGs of aircraft I particularly like.

MG Hyper Gyanko with Inner Frame when?

>>6457162
>that waist seamline

what even happened, there's only like 30 parts

>>6457229
After the MG G-Saviour Ver.Ka comes out.

>>6457243
I don't think anyone actually watched G-Saviour, so what's the obsession with it? It's not even a good looking MS.

>>6457246
(That's the joke)

I want to start buying MG's but I'm afraid because I've only done 2 HG's

>>6457251
just do it FAGgot MGs aren't even hard

>>6457251
There's just more parts, its a matter of time not skill.

>>6457255
I just don't want to fuck them up. I also figure that I should learn to paint before I do MG's since the high price tag encourages making them look amazing.

>>6457258
Just buy something like the Tallgeese that doesn't need to be painted.

>>6457259
Does char's zaku II need it?

>>6457263
Not really, it's a very simple MS colorwise so as far as I'm aware it's color accurate out of the box. You could improve it by painting it, but it's not one of those suits that gets tangible color accuracy benefits from being painted.

I'm ordering stuff off amazon (i know), they have a credit card for 5% cash back on amazon purchases, 3% at stores, and 1% novelty stuff. It also will give me a 70 dollar credit towards my order - should I do this?

Anyone have experience with this?

>>6457258
You can still clean it up and assemble it, then wait till you're comfortable with your paint skills.

>>6457275
Calculate what the end cost would be against other suppliers and see which is the better price/shipping that won't drive you insane.

>>6457162
>dat face
it's actually fairly decent

>dem knees
i don't get, they already had it (partially) right with super fumina, why use the hyper gyanko knees?

>>6457281
What, and then take it apart and paint it, then reassemble it?

Also, do I actually need to cover/tape up holes/openings in individual pieces?

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>>6457305
Yep, take it apart, wash the pieces, and begin the painting process.

>Also, do I actually need to cover/tape up holes/openings in individual pieces?
Depends on your goals

>>6457310
Wow this guide is awesome, thanks man. Any suggestions on which paints/topcoats I need to buy?

>brushes
>primer
>colored paints
>black paint
>topcoat(?)

Is this right as well?

>>6457223
Requires them to think outside of their proverbial box which they are very unwilling to.

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>>6457314
Depends on your location and what brands you can get your hands on.

Different brands have different make-ups and can react in a negative way if you are layering them.

There are different kinda of paints with pros and cons and wrapping your head around it all can be daunting(atleast it is for me). But the more you research what is available to you and what colors/detail you'd like to paint you can find paint that should work as a jumping off point.

Theres no universal preference of paint by brand, at this stage in the hobby it becomes more experience based and personal preference.

>>6455405

Yeah, i bet she has some tight tolerances, if ya know what i mean!

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>>6457246
>It's not even a good looking MS.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

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>>6457469
The best designs all skip leg day

>>6457246
I will watch it at some point, I'm missing very few Gundam shows to have watched all of it.

what's the difference between Mr Hobby Top Coat and Mr Hobby Super Clear?

>>6457567
Well one's acrylic and the other is lacquer. Rather, I should have asked which is the preferred?

>>6456753
Anyone?

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>>6457744
do you mean girls wearing classic gundam parts? there is the agp line, but theres only a couple, like wing zero, mk2, exs, and unicorn. for ones that have knight optimus prime parts, you might have to scratch build those parts

>>6457469
Canada was a mistake.

>>6456644
GN Archer, Farsia, Nobell Gundam.

>>6458108
But Canada gave us Amuro.

>>6458164
As I was saying.
Can we just drop a colony on Canada already?

>>6458198
Zeeks OUT

>>6458202
Operation British best day of my life

>>6458210
So how's the Gate of Zedan

er

A Baoa Qu holding up?

>>6457500
That's literally just a frame, what the fuck

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>>6458202
>Zeeks
Weird, eh?

>>6457275
>should I get a CD so I can get a discount on toys?

You tell me

>>6457310
I'm currently in the priming process with my current kit and this is the plan I'm following:

Prime > Paint (lacquer) > Paint details (acrylic) > Panel lines (enamel)

Is there any danger of the acrylic thinner messing up the lacquer, or the enamel thinner messing up the acrylic? I've read that enamel thinner doesn't interact in any way with the lacquer coat, so that seems safe. But I don't know about other two situations.

I'm using all Tamiya branded products, hoping they all play nice together.

>>6458396
>acrylic thinner
depends, are you using x20a? if so, then no.
>or the enamel thinner messing up the acrylic
no

>>6458396
>I'm using all Tamiya branded products, hoping they all play nice together.
They will if you are not retarded.

Each thinner contains _small_ quantities of components that can attack the other coats, for example acrylic thinner contains alcohol which can attack lacquer if you let it pool and then rub it with a q-tip.

tl;dr spray thin coats, let it cure before applying the next coat.

Does rubbing alcohol affect lacquer at all?

>>6458430
> let it cure before applying the next coat

So wait a whole day between thin mist coats? That's insane.

>>6458446
That's painting, baby.

>>6458486
I paint full color coats of lacquer spray in a session and let it cure for a day, comes out nice and very durable. Seems like an outdated technique more suitable for some different/old paint.

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>>6458446
>That's insane.
I told you what to do to avoid new coat attacking the existing one, it's up to you how to use that information.

I once painted a coat of acrylic and then immediately followed with a wet coat of lacquer topcoat which completely melted the acrylic but I knew it wouldn't affect the end result so who cares.

>>6458496
>let it cure for a day
Doesn't lacquer cure really quick, like in an hour or less?

>>6458504
probably, maybe if I was doing thin coats, I'd be baby-sitting my pieces to add a thin coat every hour for the whole day. I don't have time for that, rather do it all in one session and let is dry+cure the whole day for the same result.

Is Mr Super Clear UV Cut worth it? I use vallejo paints for now, so will anything be affected?

>>6458442
It does. In large enough quantities iso alcohol affects any paint.

You can even use 99% iso in sonic cleaner to strip paint super quickly.

>>6458504
as far as I know, lacquer dries extremely fast and cures mostly quite fast too. but lacquer retracts on itself quite a bit towards the full cure (and it cures to a really hard finish) so you want to paint all layers in one go, rather than waiting for layers to fully cure inbetween goes. otherwise you can end up cracking the lower layers with the newer ones. Another reason to wait between coats would be if you're using rougher thinners on the top layer coats so if the lower layers arent fully cured the thinner will eat down, possibly ruining the finish (less of an issue if you only use a single type of paint)

Does Gelgoog guy have a 1/60 Gelgoog?

>>6458590
Gelgoog Guy doesn't actually own any Gelgoogs whatsoever.

>>6458615
Why the hell is he named Gelgoog guy then

>>6458590
>>6458615
I only just recently got an MG 2.0.

>>6458619
Reasons.

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>>6458622
God damn fingers moving faster than my brain. I also replaced the regular sticker with one of those nice jeweled eye camera decal thingies.

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>>6458626
I'm not sure what your skill level is, but this kit is only ¥1,875
Keep in mind it needs to be glued together, and probably painted and detailed with some sort of scribing tool to look truly good.

>>6458632
My skill level is mostly lazy as fuck. While I think it'd make for a neat project, I'd probably get pissed off pretty quick.

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>>6458636
This is, as far as I'm aware, what it looks like out of the box.
The biggest thing to keep in mind is that it has incredibly limited articulation since it's from the 80s, back before polycaps and other quality of life stuff existed. So the parts basically move on one axis (ie the legs move forward and back, but not to the sides)
I'm considering it, but I don't know how much I really like the Gelgoog. There's also a 1/60 Dom (and a Char Gelgoog)
No point in getting a 1/60 RX-78 or Zaku/Char Zaku since they have proper PGs nowadays.

>>6458642
Yeah I don't think I like anything enough to buy an 80s model kit.

>>6458647
It's cheap, big, shows off how skilled (or lazy) you are as a modeler and also is a great way to display a mobile suit you love (if you love the Dom/Gelgoog, I guess.)

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Probably slowpoking on this, but holy hell. How long will it take Dalong to review every generally released Gunpla?

>>6458658
Realistically? Never. He will probably never be able to get all of the Old Gunpla since it's been out of circulation and become rare over time.

How common are plamos and gunplas in american hobby shops? Like, I want to try building one but don't want to waste money on imports.

>>6458684
Amazon is your best bet. But they've gotten a lot more common in recent years.

>>6458684
Depends on the shop. Generally you'll find more military and plane models than gunpla, and the price is usually higher than average. Chain stores will more likely carry them, and Barnes and Noble sometimes carries them.

Also, if you live in a major metropolitan area, the Chinatown or Little Tokyo areas tend to have shops that carry them. Otherwise Amazon is good, just check where it's being shipped from.

>>6458672
Wing and Endless Waltz get new runs fairly often, and the old G Gundam and 8th MS Team kits were reprinted a few months back. It's pretty much a waiting game just to see how long it takes Bandai to bring back the old molds.

>>6458697
>old G and 8th MS team kits were reprinted a few months back
Where

>>6458699
G Gundam was in November 2016, far more than a few months now that I check. my.mixtape.moe/tgmuct.pdf
08th was in January this year. https://my.mixtape.moe/ydfyvc.pdf

>>6458691
I'm in the middle of fucking nowhere in CO, and the nearest city is Grand Junction. Already checked for any import shops, nothing there. They have a Hobby Lobby, which is the only chain retailer i can think of, and everything else are local shops that only do RC stuff and model rockets

>>6458786
Yeah, to be honest, your best bet is Amazon, any HG kit in the 10-25 range usually pretty well price, within a few dollars of what you'd pay from HLJ or AmiAmi after shipping.

>>6457162
W-what happened to Bear Gyanko's twintail?

>>6457298
China came first so really, it's more like they ruined Gyanko giving her China knees.

If I'm using acrylic paint, would it be better to use lacquer top coat or acrylic?

>>6458684
My local HobbyTown has quite a few gunpla, but it's also in silicon valley weebland where TAP Plastics and Jo-Ann's Fabrics advertise for cosplay.

Doesn't hurt to check, but there are plenty of online US sellers too and shipping isn't that bad. Read the guide.

>>6458883
gyanko was revealed first

>>6458883
>>6458912
Either way the knees are ugly as sin. Whoever's doing these GBF girls needs to take some lessons from whoever does Bandai's MG FigureRise lines, especially for faces and joints.

>>6458632
>>6458642
>dose shit joints
>dat lack of detail
this is easily a month of modding and reengineering

fuck that thing

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>>6458992
Nah, I can see it being a good project for someone that wants to flex their modeling skills and take on a challenge. It would also be a good way to keep busy for a while and stretch your dollar a little further if you're on a budget.

Plus, with old kits you get these charming goofy sculpts that you just don't see anymore.

>>6458992
It's definitely not worth it for the other 1/60s that have PGs, but if someone really loved the Gelgoog that's all it has in that kind of scale. You've just gotta embrace it as a passion project, man. That and I don't think I can overstate too much that it's like $20. Well, I guess closer to $30-35 after shipping. Still, it's cheaper than the MG.

Now I kinda want to get the very first Gundam kit ever made (the RX-78) and put it side by side with the latest HGUC RX-78-2 just to see how far Bandai has truly come.

>>6459005
>stretch your dollar a little further if you're on a budget.
only if you are literally building everything out of plaplate and random toothpaste caps

if you're going shopping for Wave/Koto/HiQparts parts on the other hand you will be way over any PG budget by the time you are done

>>6458684
Where I live, they have kinda shit selection. bunch of suits I don't give a shit about. Thankfully there's a dedicated gunpla store here that has damn nearly everything. Having said that, Amazon prices are quite competitive considering you don't have to travel far to get it.

>>6459036
Wew lad, I just meant seam welding, painting, and a maybe a few joint replacements where easy/sensible enough. I don't know where this "way over any PG" budget is coming from.

>>6458921
>Whoever's doing these GBF girls needs to take some lessons from whoever does Bandai's MG FigureRise lines, especially for faces and joints
Winning Fumina's face is based on the figurise bust and it looks just as bad as the regular Super Fumina.

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>>6459146
I'm talking about the Dragon Ball and Kamen Rider MG FigureRise kitts, not the Busts. The joints on both look far less ugly, and the faces are pretty okay.

Also they fucked up with the Winning Fumina. I don't even care for her as a character, but I'm astounded at how they just can't seem to get the sculpt right.

>>6458886
always use a lacquer top coat. it's much more hardy than acrylic.

>>6458649
No point in getting the old 1/60 Dom since there's the HY2M.

>>6457310
My Tamiya semigloss has a warning on the lid to not spray on decals on stickers. That seems to conflict with this flow chart. Is there some other top coat I should be using?

Also, is it different for waterslides?

>>6459246
Its a project flow chart that highlights the steps, not the products.

You'll need to do your own research to find answers to these specific questions. Learn about the differences in decals/stickers/waterslides and products people protect them with.

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I have a HGUC Gundam Mk.II I'm thinking of painting up like this. This'd be my first time painting a model.

I'll admit I don't have a Mk II or any RX series Gundam on hand, but that tiny visor strip under the eyes seems overly ambitious. How do you plan to paint that? Do you have Tamiya masking tape?

>>6459310
I've got some Scotch masking tape.

>>6459310
Not him, but it should be pretty easily actually. If you just tape off the front of the face, it will leave the top of the mouthpiece exposed, and you can just paint that. It's almost stupidly easy.

>>6459313
You're playing a very dangerous game here.
I wish you success but if shit goes wrong I warned you.

hey guys, does anyone here who has a MG ball have any tips on getting the outer casing to be flush and to get the red hatch to stay shut?

I did Dalong's tip of snipping the platic bit in the door but it hasn't really helped

>>6459326
Got any pics?

>>6459168
I mean, I can see the similarities but even the nips were commenting how Fumina looked the worst out of the three mecha girls.

>>6459310
>>6459313
>>6459318
>>6459319
Checking Dalong, on the classic the eyes are connected to the faceplate, just carefully use some tape & a thin brush and you're good; on the Revive the faceplate is a separate part, even easier to get that little strip.
You ask me, I say do it, it'll give the eyes some extra definition away from all the black.
>>6459305
You have a name for the color scheme?

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>>6459331
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>>6459331

>>6459344
>>6459346
You're boned m8

>>6459344
>>6459346
are those nubs i see?

>>6459351
>doesn't cut his nubs off
>guys why doesn't my kit fit together snug?
Really fires up my newtype abilities.

>>6459344
>>6459346
As the other anons have said, it might just be the nubs. The male pegs on the ball aren't really long, and the females are kind of shallow, so it might just be some small nubs you missed that're keeping them from fitting flush. Try taking it apart and inspecting the inner frame + insides of the outer parts, then see if it fits together properly.

If I wanna git gud at painting, should I just paint blocks of wood or bargin bin walmart transformers? I got drunk and blew 260 dollars on some fucking ultra gundam bullshit that I wouldn't dare unbox until I knew what I was doing. I have all the tools and shit.

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>>6459391
>paint blocks of wood or bargin bin walmart transformers
spoons

canonically you must paint spoons until you achieve enlightenment

>>6457162
Her judging look is perfect though.

She's 100% "Nigga, what are you doing with your life?" there.

>>6459336
I've been calling it "Black Orchid".

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>>6457899
Hmm, those aren't bad, but any armored girl would be fine, I just, was hoping there was one that looked kinda like this, I could work with spray paint/masking tape to make it look more like a Prime armor.

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>>6459034
I kinda did that, but with the MG 3.0.

I built the RX-78-2 RG with a friend a few weeks before that, which completely turned me off due to how flimsy it was.

>>6459246
As long as you don't put on a super thicc coat, then the decals and whatnot will be fine. If anything, it helps hide the edges better

>>6459550
Building my first MG now, and it's the 3.0. Freaking love this guy.

When I was messing around with the fingers I accidentally pulled some off, and now the pinky doesn't really look like it belongs there. Are all the fingers the same length for MG kits?

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Are both Shin Mushas bodies the same, besides the gold chrome and extra display accessories?

I want to get the Sengoku No Jin for the display, but prefer the flat matte gold of the non-Sengoku version, so I would rather buy both, but build the basic version and then throw in the accessories from the Sengoku version with it.

>>6457069
G Unit is decades year old. What do you expect?

>>6459656
Most MG kits don't have the articulate hands like the 3.0 does. The ones that do usually depend on if its a feddie or zeek suit, but they all have the same finger lengths.

>>6459656
out of the 4 fingers, the ring and index finger are the same lengths. the middle finger is the longest and the pinky is the shortest

>>6459744
>>6459779
Okay, thanks.

>pinky is the shortest
Damn it. Must've put the wrong one there. Thought they were all the same length. I'll take them all off and measure them later.

Thanks, anon.

>>6459814
Just look at your own hand, desu,

>>6459822
Yeah, but I was being lazy and didn't want to mess with the fingers again. I assumed they were all the same length.

>>6459665
just spray the gold parts with matt top coat to dull out the gold plating.

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havnt built much in a while but had to jump on this one when the preorder became available.

>>6459937
always been curious, are the camo stickers or waterslide

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>>6459972
they're waterslides, the decal sheet is actually pretty big since they are using some of the markings to cover up parts in the wrong color.

it seems like Bandai was keeping things simple with this kit, the parts included are exactly the same as the regular Jegan type D, even though the colors on some parts are quite different. instead of creating a new mold for the beam rifle they actually throw in the entire A runner from the HGUC Marasai, so it has a lot of extra hand and joint parts that just get thrown away.

I just saw that DM MB avalanche exia. I realy want it. I may buy it from samuel decal, but i wonder if anyone here buy directly from Dragon momoko site, it say they do world shipping for just 9$

>>6460316
i knda like how that looks, a huge sheet of waterslide camoflage.

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>>6460350
ive done waterslide camo markings before but these seem to require some pretty precise fitment and covering up entire pieces seems really tricky.

>>6460441
oh shit, i never knew they sold camoflage waterslide decals by itself, might pick some up in the future

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>>6460441
If they're anything like their star wars waterslides you may be better off just painting the one parts. Bandai's waterslides have been shit tier recently from what I've experianced. They have like no adhesion.

Is it just me or is the 1/100 IBO Gundams' spine/waist off-center? I swear it's slightly pushed to one side on my Barbatos and I can't fix it. Tried pushing it but doesn't really move much.

>>6460626
They might be expecting everyone to buy mark softener.

Painting question:

Sand > Vallejo surface acrylic primer > Tamiya acrylic (thinned) > lacquer top coat > enamel

If the primer has cured properly, would the thinned paint have any effect on the primer? Considering that the Tamiya is alcohol based as well, would it have any negative effects?

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>>6460904
Might want to disassemble it and follow the instructions super close when reassembling it. I've done shit like that before.

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I don't know if Eva is normally welcomed here but this is Plamo. I have the Bandai LM HG Eva Unit- 01 Test Type. I and semi new to gunpla and out of the 7 kits I've built I've never been so confused as to what it wants me to do. Anyone else build this kit and know what to do? I might just be retarded after all

>>6460966
Oh fuck I am very retarded, I fixed my own problem

>>6460963
I don't see any special notes about putting the torso together... It's just that polycap. Btw, how did you paint the flexible parts in metallic color?

>>6460928
Should be fine as long as you let the primer cure for a bit first and don't go overboard with the paint. Paint a thin layer first, let it dry, and then go over it again

Not sure if the right place to ask, but does anyone know what kind of fabric to use for 1/12 scale figures? I have some things I want to try with Star Wars kits, but I have no idea what to use, and the kama material isn't that great, but it's at least thin

>>6460990
Okay, cool. Thanks. I'll give it a go.

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http://p-bandai.jp/item/item-1000116955/

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>>6461016

>>6461016
>>6461018
Not sure about this. They're charging 5120 yen for less stuff than the original Sandrock... That janky plastic cloth looks terrible too, I would've preferred the Crossbone's style cloth

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>>6461021
You must be retarded to think this looks any better

>>6460626
They've been fine on my Mecha Collection kits, granted I've been using a good bit of Micro-Sol's Setter on them.

>>6461023
It really does.

The only time plastic cloth unironically look good is if they're sculpted in a flowing motion like on scale figures. You can literally see the thickness of the plastic on the edges of the cloak. With some folding and pressing you could at least get real cloth to look interesting

>>6460966
>>6460984
How is the quality of the plamo? I was thinking about getting one for my first build because Eva is really the only Mecha I'm familiar with.

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Preorders are open
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-FIG-09790
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-FIG-09791

>>6461070
But why

>>6461070
What in the everloving fuck.

>>6461077
Scale toys for your scale toys! I'm Rape Dungeon-kun is going to love this.

>>6461021
>for less stuff than the original Sandrock...

It has the shield and the uzi as well. Sandrock Custom is by far the laziest of all the EW "upgrades", there's no difference from the base form whatsoever beyond the paint job. The only thing this release has going for it if you can paint is the cloak.

Was the Sandrock well-liked or something? The other EW kits look like they offer more (I don't think you can get the Tallgeese outside of P-Bandai or a third party kit) so why lead off with the Sandrock Custom?

>>6461098
Do you live in opposite land or are you just horribly misinformed? Sandrock Custom vEW is the very last vEW kit to be released. Which is funny considering it's by far the easiest one to make.

>>6461070
I'm honestly considering this so I can lewd plastic robutts.

>>6461085
It's not supposed to be a repaint, but Bandai seems to have made it a repaint.

There are physical differences in the face, and also the verniers that allowed it to move around in space. But these are not present here at all in this kit.

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>>6461127
>>6461127
You're thinking of the original anime's version. Katoki's version of the Sandrock has always had the exact same number of thrusters as the Custom version, as well as the same face.

As for the face, all of the gundams share the exact same head as their upgrades, with only the Wing Zero sorta being different from the Wing thanks to its head feathers being able to open up. I think the MG Deathscythe vEW has a slightly different v-fin than the Hell's too, but I'm pretty sure that was a result of having to mold it in two parts.

The MG Wing vEW line was designed to be as easy to convert into the Custom forms as possible. That's why it was so confusing it took so damn long for them to come out.

>>6461135
To be fair, if they're supposed to just be "custom" versions and not full on upgrades it makes sense to keep the heads the same.

Not that that excuses the Wing vEW and the WZC of course. But apparently Dr. J was just the most uncreative designer ever in EW.

>>6461135

Sandrock custom has verniers in the shoulders where the yellow squares are.

The P bandai mg wing kits are supposed to be based off their appearance in the OVA, not the newer manga where it is a literal copy paste.

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>>6461135
>>6461142

Sandrock custom has a line down the middle of its face. Thats not present on the pre space version.

>>6460989
Metallic sharpie.

>>6461085
Where does it list the shield and uzi being included in the kit?

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oh shid
2ndbestlard is getting a renewal
this shit is fucking rare

>>6461037
It's alright so far, the rubber stuff on the arms looks and feels weird. It is an old kit though, and apparently not the most color accurate Eva kit out there. I've heard the Kotobukiya Rebuild kits are the good ones but I don't like the shiny design that the rebuilds had

Bandai has gone full jew with the Sandrock huh? They didn't even try, it's a straight up recolor. How is a Sandrock modified for space going to maneuver without any fucking apogee motors? What the fuck?

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Guys I builted my first model last night. It was fucking fun and I have 2 more HG's in the mail.
What are some kits with a ton of pieces cause I'm more into the build than the artistic perfection? I'll do panel lining but no paints. I'm not ready.

Which is better: aqua gloss clear or Klear kote?

>>6461708
>kits with a ton of pieces
Real Grades, Master Grades, or some of the larger High Grades like the Tryon 3.

>>6461707
>retards first p-bandai
neck yourself, it's not taking up a production slot for the year, don't buy it then.

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How do I move a waterslide after I put it on the kit ? I need to moce it left a few centimeter.

Please don't tell me I fucked up

>>6461739
Never mind i did it

I tear one of them in half but I aligned it more or less correctly.

Now I pray that the glue will hold and I'll deal it as fast as possible.

>>6461726
Except plenty of pbandai kits have new or modified molds, even for stupidly small shit. Why the fuck was Sandrock the only one to get the shaft

>>6462015
>Why the fuck was Sandrock the only one to get the shaft
>Altron was P-Bandai
>Tallgeese II/III were P-Bandai
>Heavyarms Custom was P-Bandai.

>>6461654
I have the EVA 01 from kotobukiya. It's basicaly just a high grade/no grade, at master a grade price. It needs to be painted too look remotely good, and the color seperation is just lazy. And No stickers to fix that either.

Easily one of the worst, most overpriced kits I've ever bought

>>6462083
I know, the HGUC Zaku II is horrible. Why do people even bother making them? $6 is way too much money.

>>6462048
Im talking about it being a lazy piece of inaccurate shit. The Nataku, Heavyarms Custom, and Tallgeese 3 are all pretty different from their bass kits and accurate to the show and Bandai couldn't even put in new verniers for Sandrock