3P TF GENERAL: Finally Edition

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Upscale KOs W H E N?

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I agree. I like the MMC alt mode even if it isn't really accurate, but I cannot stand the robot mode. The chest and neck kill it.

>>6453805
>>6453816
SXS looks like Rodimus jumped straight out of the comic

MMC's looks like a generic robot that happens to have some Rodimus features slapped on it

>>6453805
>>6453816
I love everything about it except those hands. I wish he came with swappable fists or splayed hands. I get they're supposed to look relaxed, but they're too tightly curved to look natural. That and I don't know how they'll handle having the weapons put in them.

>>6453758
>I haven't had any issues. Im not a fan of skull face. The shit he complains about is so petty sometimes.
I wouldn't call stress marks where the hood of the cab tabs into the legs "petty". It might just be a individual QC issue though. Have you checked your anon?

>>6453816
I'm glad SXS went for a better muted colour scheme rather than Ronald McDonald Hot Rod.

>>6453805
I can not fucking wait for this to come in stock, he looks incredible.

>>6453842
I so agree with you on the hands though, odd choice for posing. But still really hype to get this guy.

>>6453816
Don't forget those shoulders, what were they thinking?

>>6453941
>I so agree with you on the hands though, odd choice for posing. But still really hype to get this guy.
Was meant for >>6453904

>>6453805
release date on this guy? I dont have a preorder in yet and was wondering if I should

>>6453816
Eh, might get him down the line as bonus to Calidus.

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>>6453805
Oh jeez where can I get a hold of this.

>>6453816
The thing people are failing to realize about SXS is he's 7.7 inches tall which completely licks him out of a CHUG shelf. It sucks because his bot mode is by far better but he's more like MP scale so he doesn't fit with my primary collection where I want him to be.

>>6454057

Uh...Voyagers are around 7-ish inches man. Thats also the size of most MMC stuff (unless their Notrod is smaller than their usual releases?). So this Notrod is probably just the same size as the MMC unless that one is tinier than I thought it was.

Also yeah, 3P's don't seem to want to bother with scale unless it's MP scale, so you can just probably completely forget scale exists unless it's MP. Official stuff certainly doesn't scale shit at all unless it's MP, and even then theres sometimes exceptions and compromises.

Maketoys Contact Shot or Downbeat....?

>>6454064
Would you consider TFC Poseidon bots individually mp scale? Or any 3p combiner team of similar size mp scale?

(just the bots not the gestalt)

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Damn. This thing must be like the 3rd party Lockdown folded 1000 times just like my japanese greatsword.

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>>6454222
I betcha he has super thicc thighs.

>>6454064
At almost 8 inches, he's gonna tower over a lot of voyagers who actually cap out around 7. Deluxes are usually 5-6.

>>6453814
Weijiang will almost certainly upscale them immediately after release. They'd be fools not to.

>>6454222
I'm glad things like this exist, just to prove it can be done, even though I probably won't buy it. Not a fan of the movie designs themselves for the most part, but I like how they push engineering.

>>6454141

No, I consider them their size class unless they're specifically advertised as MP scale.

>>6454222
But where did the truck go??

>>6454254
This but for me it's some of the combiner limbs with good robot modes like some of the 3P constructicons.

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>>6454291
His thighs and inside his body. While he doesn't have a backpack, his back MUST be a mess.

>>6454309
Jesus, this pisses me off every time I see it. It's just a nonsensical mess of moving parts. That fig either partsforms or somehow folds all the vehicle panels in every possible crevice. I can see a forearm panel, but the rest has to be sandwiched in the torso, legs, feet, maybe even the head. If that's the case though, I don't see how it could be done without sacrificing articulation.

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>>6454340
Even the most ridiculous transformation Optimus had in the first three was more consistent.

>>6454344
Where the fuck did the entire front end of the truck go?

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>>6454422
Consumeforming, it's the kind he used in some transformations like TF1's Bonecrusher fight because every other toy of him has the grill forming the feet.

There's this variant of transformation too.

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>>6454222

>>6454057
>caring about scale in the transformers fandom

Anon you're going to give yourself an aneurysm.

>>6454559
I've only cared about scale when it's a car and a truck, otherwise it's usually "Megatron should be taller than Starscream". sort of autism for me.

>>6454579
Well thats at least somewhat reasonable then as far as things go I guess. But no that Rodimus will fit in fine with most 3rd party figure, like he'll fit great with mmc's Drift when he comes out which is what I'm looking forward to. You're really only gonna have a problem if you were trying to put him with Deluxe Trailcutter or something.

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>>6454222
It's borrowing the transformation of the First Edition Voyager Prime OP

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>>6454777
Interesting. However that still has a lot more kibble given the window boobs FE has over AoE's armor bra, plus the tires.

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>>6454829
God bless em for trying. Literal magic would be needed.

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>>6454839
Meanwhile Dreamfactory has yet to come out of prototype, much like 90% of their movie teases.

>>6454241
Has Wei Jiang ever made figures that are not from the movies?

>>6455028
They upsized the first wave of RID warriors into Voyager size with diecast and stuff

>>6455028
They've upscaled some generations stuff as well, but their movie toys are the only stuff they put out that get any real attention.

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>>6454340

Looks like they based it on the FE Prime transformation. You can see the hinges in his chest and the wheel arches on his sides. Guess it's a further along version of this model that leaked a while ago.

>>6454222
>>6454226
>>6454829
>>6454839
>>6454856
>>6455104
The knight redesign is objectively the ugliest and stupidest thing they did to the movies. OP looked awesome in the first three movies but now it doesn't even look like a robot anymore.

>>6455182
Naw he looks like a robot, the problem is he doesn't look like a truck

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>>6455028
>>6455094
Implying this doesn't get attention, being one of the best and affordable optimus primes at the same time.

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>>6455195
Also been thinking of getting this. Anyone has any experience with this?

>>6455182
and his truck mode looks like shit compared to the original movie truck

>>6455182

>have evil Autobot counterparts as a thing in the movie
>Stinger being evil, improved Bumblebee
>explicitly say that Galvatron was based on Optimus
>knight Optimus would make an awesome Nemesis Prime
>throw this all into the garbage and instead use the evil upgraded forms for the new Autobot looks

forever mad

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>>6455182
>movie geewunners
W E W
E
W

>>6453805

Do people actually like that awful looking piece of shit? MMC sucks too but come on

>>6453816
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they did a retool of that design for a "tumblrfagbot" chromedome, make the wheels and shoulders switch places.

>>6455182
>now it doesn't even look like a robot anymore.
By what logic?

>>6454422
Those small front parts over his "abs" have always been the front of the truck. A majority of it gets sucked up into his body to give him more mass. Was their entire reasoning for going with a longnose truck back in the first movie.

>>6455319
Funny how he later became a flatnose truck and it made for the most accurate movie Optimus Prime toys to date

>>6455323
only because they gave up trying to recreate the transformation and just gave him a fake chest.

>>6455323
To be fair, that has nothing to do with having enough physical mass. They just wanted OP to be huge to go up against jets and military vehicles

>>6455344
now they give up and make nitro zeus into a bot smaller than megatron, who is barely bigger than bumblebee, and a little smaller than optimus.

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>>6455344
Makes sense seing how fucking huge a F-22 Raptor is compared to Jazz for example.

I've never disliked the longnose truck from the movies but I feel like it maybe was too complicated for a toy. Even Movie Masterpiece Prime has some back kibble.

I'm kinda interested in Planet X products, especially the Seeker mold. Which are considered the best ones so far?

>>6455348
God that saleen is sexy as fuck.

Also I never knew that LC Ironhide was actually rather scale-accurate to LC Prime.

>>6455028
They also did CW Defensor.

>>6455347
Because people accept Transformers. They no longer have to make people "believe" it can work and just have it work.

>>6455314
The same logic you use when you look at a dog and it doesn't look like a car.

>>6454309
I know people hate the movieverse bots because "muh walking scrapyards" but I could watch those transformations for hours.

>>6455199
Actually ordered the Searchlight and Freeway from a chinese seller on ebay. They should arrive in two weeks so I don't have any firsthand experience. But they were insanely cheap, like 12 dollars a piece.
Watched some reviews by independents beforehand. The plastic is thinner in places, but other than that they look the same, just bigger.

Always liked the comic designs of the Throttlebots. Don't care much for the combiner though.

>>6455523
>from a chinese seller on ebay
>I don't have any firsthand experience

And you never will because 99% of chinese ebay sellers are scammers. The only thing you're gonna experience is how long it takes Paypal and ebay to refund your money.

>>6455547
I've had issues with only 1 Chinese seller the past few years. Everything else has arrived. Fuck Donald Trump.

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New arrival is purple and black and sexy

>>6455589
REEEE CAMERA PHONE

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>>6453805
Bought Grimlock today, not being happy with his colour I decided to just spray him with some chrome spray I got from a home store. How did it go?

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Let's try again

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>>6455595
How can I get a dulling/dirty effect going on? He's too clean and shines ATM

>>6455602

Brown ink wash.

>>6455598

So what does he come with? Is it Sunstorm parts? Ghostscream parts?

>>6455607

Both! Arms for ghost Starscream and legs for Sunstorm.

>>6455620

Wait, so which parts come with which figure then? Do you get a full Ghostscream or Sunstorm by getting all 3 Seekers or no? Since I see you've got Thundercracker in the back there too.

>>6455606
Thanks!

>>6455602
I'd also suggest very subtle dry brushing

>>6455598
Thinking about getting that Sixshot. How is he?

>>6455627
From what I understand.
SW and TC come with limbs. SS and coneheads combo come with a single torso each.

>>6455602
No need for that mate. He's beatiful. Does the paint affect transformability / make it more feel more sticky at all?

>>6455182
I agree except for the doesn't look like a robot part. The problem is that it doesn't look like a truck.

I hate those shitty bayformer designs that's just a bunch of metal shit everywhere but you can barely even tell what it turns into.

>>6454222

Oh well, I didn't want kidneys anyway...

>>6454422

Look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHAFxzVIakU

>>6455377

So that settles it. Terminus is bigger than Metroplex and given his stance, probably as big as, or possibly even slightly bigger than Fort Max.
What a time to be alive.

3-foot Unicron when?

>>6455589

I can hear Thew splooshing already.

Are you Thew?

>>6455595

Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest.

>>6455681
>you can barely even tell what it turns into

...I actually like that. I would love to have a Transformer, for instance, who transformed in such a way that the dominant color of the altmode was different from the robot mode's - but still not a shellformer.

>>6455636
Good idea. A black dry brush?

>>6455657
It hasn't affected it at all. Paint is super thin, dried quick and hasn't chipped off over the course of about 10 transformations if not more

>>6455191
>>6455681
>>6455314
It looks like a guy in a (FO4) power armor

>>6455853
Also you could hit it with some dullcote. It would make it less shiny.

>>6455853

Not that Anon, but to compliment the brown ink wash, go for a bit of reddish brown drybrushing here or there as rus or dust, depending on the colors.

How would you describe DX9's work?

I can't find much of a consistent pattern in their work, or anything remarkable about them.

>>6456115

MP, but not as spot on as other companies. Like, theres always something...Off. The face just isn't right, or maybe the arms are too rounded or squared, or...Something. Something ALWAYS looks just a tiny bit off on their releases, like another, polishing pass by a sculptor just didn't happen.

>>6455547
From the 30 or so things I ebayed this year, I only had problems with one Australian and one American seller. About 10 of those things were Chinese, so make of that what you will.

>>6455589
>>6455598
That mold looks amazing in pictures and is disappointing in-hand, I've never really experienced something like it. I've barely touched starscream after I opened him, and your pics still made me think about getting the other two for a second.

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>>6456189
Well that's upsetting. I've been on the fence about Thundercracker, but this is the second bad review of him I've heard.

>>6456189
What don't you like about it? What sort of problems does it have?

I've been eyeing those baby seekers but it seems like they aren't well liked.

>>6456393
To be fair, I posted something generally negative here when I opened him last week so that might have been me? I'd really like to hear from someone who enjoys him, because maybe I'm being crazy here.

>>6456408
It's hard to explain, he's just... mediocre, especially for 40 bucks? I know it's not really a fair comparison, but his articulation and transformation are really similar to the generations/CW seeker mold, to the point where he's basically only got a head balljoint and ankle tilts over the official one. You can kind of give him double knees if you use a transformation joint, but it looks terrible and I'm normally forgiving about that sort of thing. His wings are on balljoints which you'd think would be good for positioning them in robot mode, but they can pretty much only spin around and rotate backwards, no up/down.

His paint looks nice, but it scratches VERY easily. I've already got two on the red of his torso, and like I said, I haven't messed with him much.

You have to use an adapter that literally clips onto his crotch to get him on the stand in vehicle mode. He's got a hole on his back for the included stand, but you can't use a figma or bandai one. It's 5mm though, so you can put weapons on it so I can't really count this against him.

Usually I like iron factory's stuff, but he's not doing it for me. I got their shockwave with him, and I like him more than when I opened him, by contrast.

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>>6456453
Looks good here, but it was frustrating as hell to actually get him there.

>>6455820
Man, MP Unicron would be the size of a two story home.

>>6456663
but will the paint chip? Very important question

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>>6456663
>Inb4 chinese will KO oversize it

>>6455199
Not worth it for the combiner. Sideload's transformation can be extremely difficult from the way they engineered it. A lot of parts mashing up against each other with little clearance. Also, the dedicated ratchet joints for combiner mode broke because the spring was too strong.

Some of the other figures have squeaky transformation joints, but they don't shoe any signs of damage. Most of their articulation is ball-jointed, so if you buy any of them second-hand you might want to pick up some Pledge/Future Floor Polish. The articulation that aren't ball joints can also have varying tightness. Nothing inherently floppy, but not rock solid either. Finally, some of these guys have really sharp edges, so If you do pick them up be careful not to poke or cut yourself when messing around with them.

All in all, if you had to buy only one, go for Shinebug. Hell, you can even save some bucks and go for the oversized KO. I've heard it's just as solid as the original.

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>>6456695
KO Shine bug is a great fucking figure. All the KO throttlebots are. I kind of wish I'd gotten the real ones but at their price point it just wasn't worth it. But Shinebug is the best of the crew imo.

>>6456584

What are those shooting effects?

>>6456811
Looks like figuarts Iron Man repulsor effects

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So, since these threads have been on a IF kick the past few days, should I nab IF Scorponok and God Ginrai?

Feels like such a lull in announcements and releases.

>>6456855
Out of the nine I now own, I think those two are the most solid with Ultra Magnus bringing in a close third.

Be aware that the leg armor on the God Ginrai tabs in a little loosely, other than that A+

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>>6456865

I'm still waiting for the few 3P things I ordered in July because apparently Hasbro decided to ship all of their TR Deluxes to the US via fucking row boat. Feels bad man.

>>6456870

Got a size comparison for Optimus (both before armor and after) and Scorponok, with some Legends or Deluxes by any chance?

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>>6456855
And Scorponok is like 10/10 in my book. My favorite IF figure. You can even remove the screw holding his scorpion leg backpack on and have it be a little drone.

Plus, if you don't mind him being a deluxe class he sizes ok with generations. Maybe like head canon it as some kind smaller body for Scorpy so he's not always gigantic.

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Anonos, I'm loopy from pain meds from surgery and I'm itching for the 3p laser Optimus. Who makes him I can't remember.

>>6456909

Oh shit, he's bigger than I thought. Thats good though. Scorponok always was a gigantic mothefucker. In the comics he was at least Ultra Magnus-ish size, or he was city size in the cartoon. Hmm.

>check prices
>Scorp+PMP come to just under $150
>most places only give free shipping at $150

...So it's either spend like 10-20 bux on shipping or find something else to throw in. Damned if I do, damned if I don't it seems. Shit.

>>6456960

Fans Hobby

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>>6456902

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>>6456986

>>6456986
Fuck I forgot to take the armor diaper off

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>>6456986
>>6456988
>>6456992

That illustrates it perfectly, thanks!

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As an aside, you can kind of cheat IF Ultimate Commander's melee weapon into WFC Prime's hand and it looks wonderful.

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>>6456986
>>6456988
Ultimate commander is a snazzy looking robot, but man does he ever have an "an attempt was made"-tier vehicle mode

>>6456115
They are basically fanstoys lite, or budget concious fanstoys. Fanstoys strives for perfection all round, dx9 just gets it to the good enough for an mp area.

Personally my favorite company is maketoys. I own so many of their products and absolutely none of them have been a let down in any area unlike dx9 with odd designs choices in small areas and fanstoys sometimea iffy altmodes and too tight joints.

>>6457056

Thats actually accurate to War Within Prime. He just had a very garbage altmode.

>>6453959
Agreed. Fuck off back to TFW if you want your super-accuracy circle jerk.

>>6455182
Thanks for sharing your shitty opinion, anon.

Now please fuck off.

>>6455199
I've only had Aurora but I fucking love him. He's like a really good Hasbro Deluxe, and it makes me wonder why Hasbro hasn't done something like this recently, because it seems like a fairly simple design that they could pull off and please a lot of people with at the same time.

I believe the OS KO Wideload has problems with breakage though, supposedly because of the aforementioned thinner plastic. So, you know, keep that in mind.

>>6456798
Bought Aurora from BBTS because they always have it on sale and I agree that they're absolutely not worth their regular asking price. For $30 a piece? Fuck yeah, they're great. The price for the KO? Even better.

>>6455377
Who is the filthy minority?

>>6455422
So in other words, you're retarded. Got it.

>>6454099
Contactshot. No one else has done Crosshairs yet and Jazz will get an official figure eventually too, along with everyone else already having done Jazz as well.

>>6455595
Looks like it might have zinc in it - I'm focusing on the weapon and spotty parts on the legs.

But overall, it looks decent.

You probably want to look into dry-brushing, anon.

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jesus christ

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>>6457152
Pure sex.

>>6457152

That red looks way too dark for the cherry red IDW Hotrod.

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>>6457152
Also this pic confirms (a) that there's a waist swivel we hadn't previously seen, and (b) that the wings fold back enough to let the arms point forward.

>>6456969
Throw in Bridge Watcher (Shockwave) if you don't have him, anon. Problem solved.

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>>6457096

1) Debatable.
2) It's not 'War Within' Prime. It's 'Stormbringer' / 'Chaos Theory' / 'Autocracy'-era Prime.

'War Wiithin' Prime has a much superior figure, from Spark Toys.

>>6457177
>'War Wiithin' Prime has a much superior figure, from Spark Toys.

Well, yeah, but then you're comparing a Legends figure with an armor up gimmick thats around half the price, to an MP figure.

>>6457177
Agreed, though I personally like the design either way.

I want both Spark Toys' Alpha Pack AND Iron Factory's Ultimate Commander... but money.

>>6457152
>>6457166
I am so fucking glad I waited on getting Calidus cause this one looks amazing.

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I wish another company would take a shot at making another faux-G1 figure.

>>6454241
Weijiang only recently upscaled TR Skullcruncher and Hardhead. They are awesome figures, way better than the original ones, but you can't really say Weijiang acted "immediately"...
Hope they'll do more though. I'd buy all the hasbro ones I already have as upscaled more updated KO versions in a heartbeat. They are that good.

>>6455028
They just released TR Skullcruncher and Hardhead. Brainstorm is in the making too.

>>6457224

I like the idea behind the set, but honestly...It could've had modern articulation.

>>6457224
I loved this because the concept was so 80's toyetic. The little robots riding their animal bodies was cool.

And fucking ice age mammals! No one ever does ice age mammals.

>>6457166
looks like he's gonna have light-piping too

>>6456189
>>6456393

I fully disagree. I've been in love with Thundercracker from the first moment I got it out the box, just as much as Bridge Watcher.
I've since picked up some older moulds and some aren't any where near as good.

His transformation is nice and quick and I like that they've supplied a flight stand.

>>6457224
Agreed.

>>6457231
Also agreed. Ironically, it seems Impossible Toys did it well with their Allicon.

Too bad their quality control didn't even exist...

Hey anons, just got paid and need some bang for my buck. I've got about $60 to spend (shipping included, so I'm mainly perusing eBay - I'm international so no BBTS, TFSource, etc).

I'm a picky person but I'm also indecisive so... Suggest shit.

I was going to go for Ultimate Commander and Alleria but as much as I want them, I also feel like I want more bang for my buck right now (i.e. I will get them at some point but I need muh big toys).

I'm not huge on most third-party MPs either.

I'd turn this into a game but I'm too fucking retarded to achieve that.

>>6457301
I wish they made a smaller version aswell, it's too big and too expensive for me

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TR Topspin and Twintwist are nice but the Titan Master shit just really bothers me.

How are Mech Ideas' versions of them? They look nice, but I can't tell what their scale is, I never hear about them quality-wise either.

>>6457301
Bigger than my dick.

>>6457315
That bothers me too, anon.

I have these guys - got them day one. Quality is great. About the third-party plastic quality of MMC at the time. The arms are a bit too long and even folding them up like in the picture still looks kinda awkward. Absolutely fantastic figures though. Worth the prices.

The Titans Return ones are probably better though (but full disclaimer, I only have the Mech Ideas ones, not the TR ones).

>>6457315
Oh, they're Deluxe-sized, by the way. Probably a bit bigger than Classics Bumblebee? Give me moment and I'll measure mine.

>>6457315

I either sold them or shoved them away in a box somewhere but the joints on mine were kind of loose and floppy and shitty feeling and I didn't really like them very much. But the plastic quality was fine and if I had been more determined to enjoy them I probably could have gone at them with some floor polish and made them alright.

>>6457315
if I remember right, Mech Ideas only released these and the Ironfist/Crankcase figures before going belly up?

>>6457315
>>6457330
I can take some (shitty) photos if you'd like. I've got a bunch of official MPs (minus Prime, Magnus and Starscream) so I could compare to those. I have some other figures too, both official and unofficial (though not much of the latter). Let me know if there's anything you want to see in particular.

They're about 14cm tall (~5.5 inches), FYI.

>>6457331
Interesting. I've personally never had this issue nor heard of it. Not to say it can't happen but yeah.

>>6457332
And the two Animated figures, Bluster and Trench (Huffer and Pipes).

>>6457333
Any TR deluxes you could compare them to?

>>6457336
Ripped most of mine apart to customise them but I have Skullcruncher/smasher. Does that work?

>>6457337
Yeah that'll work

How did Susanoo turn out?

>>6457340
A fiddly mess and hard pass.

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>>6457339
Here you go. I'll transform them and take some alt mode pics too.

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Just saw this on facebook from robotkingdom.

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>>6457339
>>6457342

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>>6457339
>>6457345

>>6457342
>>6457345
>>6457347
inb4 I realise I somehow doxxed myself.

>>6457345
>>6457342
Looks like they're about a little under half the size of the TR versions, but I think that's the more suitable size for them, thanks for taking the time there, appreciate it.

>>6457350
No problem anon, you're most welcome.

>>6457329
The Topspin/Twintwist Titans Return mold is one of the best deluxes the line has, possibly the biggest one too. It's a real shame it can't be deheadmastered, but baby steps.

>>6457354
Agreed on both points.

I'm gonna takes some alt mode pics of the Mech Ideas set still but I'm just remembering how to transform them.

The ankle rockers are a little loose and could use some tightening but they still stand up just fine.

There appear to be some light stress marks in the square arm peg sockets on the outside where you can plug the weapons in but that's about it. The plastic is very good quality though. Quite solid. Mainly just paint to pick out the details so I doubt much (if any) paint scratching will happen.

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>>6457355

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>>6457368
Only part I feel might break are the little tabs on the legs but as long as you as you are careful, they shouldn't get stressed at all.

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>>6457369
All weapons can store in vehicle mode. Both have two guns but they have two different moulds (one for each figure).

Hammers are the same for both and have two little exhaust/handle pieces. You can stack all four together or keep two or three together, have them separate, etc

They're rally fun little moulds but they might be overpriced now. I think it was $69 for both plus shipping back when they came out. They're nice though.

>>6457371
*really fun

I hate typing on my phone. I'm gonna stay on my computer instead.

Anyone got ToyWorld's Arcee (Leia) yet? Thinking about buying it just because I like G1 Arcee but I'm wondering if it'd just be a waste of money.

>>6457285
Scratch all that, I just want recommendations from you anons for a good third-party figure that's $60-$65, shipping included (or free shipping from eBay, Show.Z etc). Still international though so not US shipping prices.

TL;DR recommendations for good ~$65 figures?

>>6457411

Op has some real bang for his buck. I'd grab him while you could.

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>>6457430

>>6457430
Is it $65 or less though...? I thought it'd be way more.

>>6457430
Oh. You meant Optimus. Not SXS Rodimus. Derp. Thanks anon. I do want him but I'm also considering other options.

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>>6457224
I only got the one just last year. I just can't pass up robot sabertooths. It's a weird and specific weakness.

>>6457451
I've had them all but the first two (so that includes the one you have) and they were pretty good. They were hard to find individually for the longest time but it seems they might be a bit easier to get individually again now.

>>6455182
He's got thicc thighs.

>>6457443
Well, I ordered Optimus and Elite.

Any other suggestions (because why wait when I can plan how to spend my next pay right now)?

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Uniquetoys Lockdown

>>6457565
Damn wizards.

>>6457562
I fail to see how he folds up in a Lamborghini, well done.

>>6457562
UT has invented mass shifting irl.

Amazing.

>>6457562
>>6457563
>>6457565
is this fake kibble done right?

>>6457152
>>6457166
MMC BTFO

>>6457562
>>6457565
His side windows wrap around his hips.

I might have to get this just to see how many orphan souls they sacrificed to figure out hot to do the transformation.

>>6457562
>>6457563
>>6457565
Damn that is impressive. Hopefully they nail the QC so that he's worth buying because I'd love one.

>>6457562
>>6457563
>>6457565
Hot damn. What version of Bumblebee is that? The oversized KO WeiJiang just put out maybe?

>>6457612
No wait, I'm retarded, that's the MPM

>>6457601
It really looks that way. I'm 100% ok with fake hood chests and stuff as long as the actualy hood or equivalent part is hidden away which seems to be the case here.

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GET RENDSORA IF YOU LIKE THE DESIGN.

>>6457562
>>6457563
>>6457565
fucking witchcraft. where the fuck are the wheels

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The reports are coming in. Guess who's a floppy piece of shit that can't even stand? Come the fuck on PE.

>>6457376
Buying it where? As far as I know she's not been released. I really want to pick one up cause I love the style it has.

>>6457627
inside the calf.

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but why?

>>6457636

no surprise there

any word on the neoarts ko yet?

>>6457688

evangeLion

>>6457690

Paint is less nice but all the joints are way tighter.

>>6457736

great

I'm even considering the evangelion colors now

>>6457341
What do you mean by fiddly?
>>6457688
I want proper 3P versions of the TV Evas.
It is pretty obvious that the big companies have no interest and the figures we have sort of suck.

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>>6457182

Choose Alpha Pack if you have to.

>>6457315
>TR Topspin and Twintwist are nice but the Titan Master shit just really bothers me.

Even if it bothers you, the TR ones are probably the best in this case, especially since the MI ones are both pretty old in terms of 3P stuff, and will be way more expensive than they should be at this point in the game.

>>6457853
I'm less annoyed by the headmaster thing and more annoyed that Topspin's bot mode looks bland as shit. Somebody needs to tell Hasbro to stay away from that shitty, milky plastic that just washes out every sculpted detail

>>6457688
where could i get this? or better yet, when is this coming out?

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>it is now August
>every day is going to be me checking my email for the shipping notice for pic related
It's a wonderful kind of torture.

>>6457879

https://tf-direct.com/neoart-toys-ko-pe-leonidas-eva-version_p1537.html

Should be soon. Ish.

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>>6457913
>Same
>Have to wait till next year though

So I ordered IF Scorp, IF PMP, and threw in Shockwave because it was either pay $12 shipping on an order like 2 cents below the free shipping, or just say fuck it and grab Shockwave. I think I made the right decision.

>>6457995
I always wait until I spend 150 dollars at major retailers for that free shipping gibsmedat.

>>6457995
>>6457997
My personal thought is that free shipping should come in at $149, considering there are a number of things simply listed at $149.99.

But you did make the right choice on nabbing li'l Shocky there. Love mine, even if the hands are weird, and he makes for a little pew pew blaster for Poseidon. I have new black version (Astro Magnum?) Quakeblast out for delivery today, so I keep on compulsively checking the front door in the case of stealth drop off.

>>6458015
>My personal thought is that free shipping should come in at $149, considering there are a number of things simply listed at $149.99.
That's precisely why they don't do it.

>>6458021
I'll bust in making demands with my Astro Magnum then. Shockwave alone was $7 from TFS, but it did get here in 3 days, so it's not too much a complaint (other than it was marked delivered on Saturday with no box in sight, only to phantomly show up on Sunday as I was heading out to work).

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Will Iron Factory ever do legends-sized beasties?

>>6455640
Sixshot is great imo, definitely a lot of fun. He poses super well too.

>>6455645
Ghost Scream:
SS, TC, SW

Sunstorm:
TC, SW, Coneheads

If you only get the parts for GS, you get 4 figures for $30ea. If you get all of them, you get 8 figures for $26.25ea. Not too bad if you ask me.

>>6456189
Sorry to hear that, better luck next time? I find him amazing both in build and quality. I can't stop messing with them on my desk, they're all just so dynamic and fun.

>>6458052
For the sake of my savings I hope not.

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>>6457177
Don't kid yourself, if IF is subpar then ST is right there with them because wtf is pic related? imo looks worse than IF for a heftier price.

Besides, IF is based on Stormbringer more than WW.

>>6457315
Dang, they look so old and dated...

>>6457992

Holy shit. That altmode must be fucking tits. I bet transforming it is a hassle and a half.

>>6458079

It's a pretty amazing toy. That's just what 'War Within' Prime looks like. The IF is pretty cute for what it is, but ST is better. And I would like it if they did a 'Stormbringer' one, too.

...Looks worse? GTFO.

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>>6458091
They all look good together and it's crazy that this is what they've produced in only a couple years. I think it's around 2 and a half years at this point.

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>>6458097
And the pile of accessories is just awesome.

What's the best G/IDW Voyager-sized Megatron for a poorfag like me? Is there anything in the KO department?

>>6458113
Meant to say G1/IDW

>>6457997
>>6458015
>>6458021

Honestly when I order stuff it usually comes out to either a lot less than $150, or like, 4 or 5 bux over. First time I've ever been at just a few cents shy.

>>6458113

Probably the upcoming MMC IDW Megs.

>>6458099
>Ghost Starscream torso counted as an accessory

It's still a whole lot of Iron you have.

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>>6458089
I think that was sarcasm. It's a non transforming action figure. Glad it triggered the fuck out of you lmao I'm not sure why it makes people so upset.

>>6458124
Damn, still too expensive for me. I guess I'm just not cut out for the 3p life.

>>6458146

Just save up for it. Shit, it's cheaper than MP's today. We've hit the weird place where you can now get arguably higher quality toys for less money than the official.

So Quakeblast arrived just a bit ago. He's got lots of heft in his legs, and is lovely black & smokey. Haven't just got into the transformation, but I know well enough that there's one barrel that gets used, and the other stays in the packaging.

>>6458193
Are his thigh swivels more flushed in?

One of my issues with Quakeblast was how you could strain the thigh peg if you don't move it right at its joint

>>6458205
Thighs feel just right. Doesn't feel like there's any strain, and not Skullsmasher loose either. The below-knee swivel of course isn't ratcheted, but still feels smooth.

>>6458205
>One of my issues with Quakeblast was how you could strain the thigh peg if you don't move it right at its joint

I never heard that, got any pics? I've got a Quakeblast, and now you've got me worried.

>>6458139
>I think that was sarcasm.

It was. But I will admit, that's one hell of a sweet-looking Action Master.

>>6456909

I could check myself but I'll just ask. If you remove the screw are there still pegs holding the backpack in place? And if so, does it stay on securely enough to transform without popping off?

>>6458257
I sold mine a while ago due to lack of space (and that I can easily just buy him again for the same price)

Basically the thigh peg isn't fully pushed into the hip joint (so you could actually see ~1mm of the peg joint). Because of how tight the ratcheted hip joints are, you're bending the peg a little bit because it's not pushed in 100%. I know one person for sure managed to snap its thigh peg due to straining it.

Looking at photos of the Blackblast, it doesn't seem like they fixed it. Not a significant issue I think, just that you need to be a bit cautious when moving the hip joint.

>>6458268

Oh shit, well. I'll have to keep that in mind then. Cheap as he is for an MP figure, he seems solid enough save for the barrel issue. First I've heard of that.

>>6457455
Tusker, Fangro and Tailclub are super easy to find, it's the other two that are impossible to find.

>>6458260
It makes people legitimately mad that high end action figures exist. You just aren't going to get the detail and paint from a transforming figure that a pretty action figure can muster.

>>6458270
TFS had those 3 on a Black Friday sale for $5 a piece, so mine is constructed out of dual Fangro legs and dual Tailclub arms. The latter is nice because now he has two elbows.

>>6458266
Yeah decently well. The backpack is on a peg and the screw just keeps it from coming off, rather than backpack being screwed on, if that makes sense.

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This doesn't look like a combiner at all. More like a giant action master.

>>6458426
It looks like you don't even need any of the stunticons, just put together the combiner kibble and you already have your giant robot

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>>6458426
>OK guys what if
>we strap the cars
>to the BACK of his shins

>>6457562
Where did you get this?

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Where the hell did onslaught go?

>Order sunday night from bbts
>Order processing
>Monday Order processing
>Tuesday Order processing

Uuuuhg it wont be here by the end of the fuckin week now. Why did I order from them again?

>>6458441
>Thank you for placing your order. You're items will ship immediately.

Yeah by immediately they mean in a week. Go toydojo or gci.

>>6458441
One thing I've come to realize with them is how much you pay for shipping directly influences how fast they take to get it out the door. I ordered a bunch from them with the cheapo fedex option and had your experience every time, but the last couple orders I used the fedex again but the level up and they gave me a tracking number the next day.

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>>6458426
>>6458431
Backwards legbots wouldn't bother me if it didn't mean the shins are going to be as bland as humanly possible like the cartoon.

You could get some neat undercarriage details going but nope it has to be flat grey like the cartoon.

>>6457575
I'm pretty sure for the most part he literally just turns completely inside-out to form the chest at least. Still really impressive.

>>6458462
I tried them again since they had the revamp and new flat shipping thing.

>>6458097
Sadly, I decided to quit Iron Factory after 4 purchases.

They offered the easy transformations that I wanted but after handling them, I realised that the tight joints coupled with the legends size doesn't make them that easy to transform as the small parts are sometimes difficult to manipulate with my fingers.

I am not really a transformation fan as i even find the MP car bots to be difficult. I only like the ones with simplicity levels to the likes of MMC Kultur and MT Striker Manus.

>>6458508
>Complains about tightness on joints
>likes striker manus
Dude have you ever untabbed his knees for truck mode? You need to be the damn hulk for those. At least on my manus and noir you did. I had to trim the tabs with a knife to make them even managable.

>>6457565
>that fucked up Bee

Come on man it's not hard getting everything all lined up right. Anyway, are those vehicle modes actually to scale? I don't have a clue what a camero and a lambo should look like next to eachother, but that's even more crazy if they actually got him in scale in both modes.

Only worry for me is that he could end up being ridiculously light for his size, or a diecast mess if they try to fix that.

>>6458440
I like the gestalt but fuck me the robots looks like ultra trash.

>>6458427
Welcome to the post Constructor combiner era.
Fuck the robots.
Fuck the alt modes.
Half the combiner is parts.

I wish companies would make in scale transforming robots and then just push out a gigantic action master of the gestalt.

>>6457451
No one is judgin'.

>>6458573
Yeah, I keep going back and forth if I want to get these or UT offering.

>>6458588
Constructor robots did not look this ass and they used the same ultra partsforming method. I don't know why there's so many fucking kibble panels everywhere.

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>>6458588
Best Bruticus, coming through.

>>6458608
Too slim and anime for me even considering the legends scale. Looks too much like a gundam.

>>6458474
Would be nice if you could just rotate the shins and feet 180 degrees and have both flavors.

Why the hell are the shins so small though? The bots there look like they're half the size of the dudes making up his arms.

>>6458613
Really? Doesn't look all that different in proportion compared to this guy here >>6458440

>>6458608
>the best devastator and now the best bruticus are legends scale
Gee, 3Ps, way to fucking go.

>>6458620
Shoulders are more hulking, back cannons are shorter and broader as is the head, waist is thicker, and is generally a bit fatter looking. ((((IMO)))) this is how bruticus should be.

IF Bruticus does look really cute and good looking, just a bit more superion and gundam streamlined rather than a hulking fatty I think he should be.

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>>6458441
>ordered from toydojo today for my stuff
>shipping label made, possibly got shipped already, haven't checked

>>6458577
>Half the combiner is parts.

More like welcome to G1.

>plug in fists
>plug in feet
>attach chest plate
>put on head

>>6458300
That's where I got mine, and they are all over ebay too, I assume by people trying to flip them. Its just a shame that you can't find the other two anywhere outside of a full set.

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>>6458474
Making combiners look like the show without partsforming or obscene compromise is impossible. The show did not give a fuck. Shit flew into the abyss or generated offscreen to make all the parts exist. Combiners are often way bigger than the sum of their parts. Mass shifting out of the ass.

Might as well partsform and make it as solid as possible.

>>6458628
What do you have to say in regards to Hulkie? Personally I'm now holding out on hopes that IF does Devy also.

>>6458269
I suppose Amazon is the best place to get batteries for him then? Like Paik mentioned in his own review, there's no way AG13/LR44s fit him, and that misprint is still present on these instructions.

>>6458717
FansProject x [insert another company here] collaboration to make an MP-scale Retro Future combiner when?

>>6458592
Only Blastoff and Vortex seem to be plagued with kibble. The other three don't look that bad.

>>6458763
>What do you have to say in regards to Hulkie?

Kinda curious about this myself. Also DX9 is known for shitting out "re-do's" of it's Legends sized figures, so what do you think is the chance for them to shit out one with any problems in the initial version fixed?

>>6458499
>BBTS
>new flat shipping thing.

Well there's your problem.

I used that $4 shipping once and it took forever. I live just 1 state away and it took me 6 days for them to just ship my package out and then 4 days after to arrive.

The next time I used regular FedEx, which was only $12, and I got my stuff shipped out the same day and got my items in less than 48 hours after FedEx picked up the box.

>>6458787
I live four hours away from their warehouse and it took TWO WEEKS for a fairly expensive item (~$150) to arrive, but then I spend ~$30 on an Acid Rain figure (3.75" figure) and it gets here three days afterwards. I swear BBTS has been more inconsistent than TFSource of all places.

>>6458700
I think it's funny that people who bitch about Titans Return for partsforming don't realize that CW had much more mandatory partsforming going on. If a headmaster is partsforming, than building a combiner is uber-partsforming.

Is having a separate gun that stores in the alt mode also partsforming?

>>6458741
>those thumbs
Goddammit why? Haven't these companies figured out by now that those outdated thumbs are always restrictive as fuck and can never do natural poses like a thumbs up?

Why couldn't they go with the ball and hing method? It's not like it would have been a fragility issue or anything seeing as how those thumbs are thick as fuck and FansToys manages to do it just fine on their significantly smaller hands.

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i heard you guy liek non-partsforming combiners!

>>6458700
I'm fine with hands and feet plugging in, but I refuse to accept that getting 5 robots to form a good body is as impossible as damn near all 3P combiners seem to imply. Most of the time combiners have limb bots aren't even fucking doing anything.

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I really wish toyworld wasn't so incompetent. They made a solid combiner but fuck me he's so wibbly and thin looking it's obnoxious.

Hating on KFC Menasor for just having the cars strapped to the back of the legs is completely missing the point. All of the individual robots and the combined mode of that set are EXTREMELY cartoon accurate and that's just what Menasor looked like in the cartoon. That's the fucking point. If you wanted Menasor to do something different there's like several other versions out there that aren't directly based on the cartoon.

Being really self contained and having no partsforming is one way for a combiner to be impressive but I think being really cartoon accurate is pretty impressive too and that Menasor nails it. We'll see if the build quality holds up though. XTB has been getting a whole lot better but idk if they're actually ready to tackle a combiner yet or not.

It's personally my most anticipated upcoming combiner mostly cause I really want some more G1 cartoon-styled Decepticons to display with MP-36, but I'm only cautiously optimistic about it. Luckily, if they stick to $40 a limb I'm pretty willing to buy it even if it kind of sucks cause that's so cheap and I like how it looks.

>>6458888
Yes I'm aware it's supposed to look like shit.

>>6458872

I always thought the proportions looked weird but honestly the V2 version actually looks good to me. The differences are small but for whatever reason just like filling out that torso makes sense of like the shapes for me. I think the head kind of helps it too somehow in a subtler way.

I still haven't actually bought a set yet just because it's a fuckton of money but I'll probably pick it up in the next couple months.

>>6458891
As more and more companies follow Takara's footsteps in making everything ULTRA GEWUN as possible more people are going to realize how basic bitch boring everything looked in the cartoon. Obviously it's up to aesthetic taste, but I really like how some companies try a "G1+" style where they capture 90% of the figure and then spruce up the design with visual flair, fixed proportions, extra silver highlights, etc. These are the old style of MP's like in soundwaves era and they hold up well. >>6458872 FT Terminus here is trying it's damndest to give the figure tampos and detail to make up for the fact that the source material is a big grey rectangle man.

>>6458898
The Lanky Kong arms kills it for me. They should have compressed so straight arm poses don't look like he can literally knuckled rag.

>>6458872
How the fuck does Hook and Long Haul together look smaller than the partsforming crotch?

>>6458856

I believe anyone who actually complains about partsforming probably never held a G1 Seeker before. Goddamn thing was 100% partsforming. It was little more than a metal tube with a face on one side.

>>6458869
>but I refuse to accept that getting 5 robots to form a good body is as impossible as damn near all 3P combiners seem to imply

Real talk, it is not impossible. It is, however, not possible without sacrifice. Something is going to go to shit if you don't partsform at least a bit. And most sane people are willing to make the huge sacrifice of "plug the fist in" to not have a 'bot that is compromised for the sake of one guy complaining about partsforming.

>>6458911
It seems like most of the people who complain about partsforming are just hoping on the TR hate bandwagon.

Like they're bithcing about partsforming because a toy has a removable transformable head as a well developed gimmick, think it's the same as a G1 toy with a robot mode that half consists of removable parts that don't do anything or store in anyway while in vehicle mode.

>>6458915

A completely original combiner or at least one that heavily departs from any particular source material designed from the ground up to work as a combiner could happen. Fat chance anyone has the balls to do it though. It would be cool to see a combiner integrate hands and feet in a way that they make up parts of the robot or alt mode without being completely obvious, or break down and hide away so well that you couldn't tell they combined. The combiner port system virtually all combiners use in some way would probably need to go though.

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>>6457152
>>6457166
No one can deny that robot mode is kickass. But how can you guys live with this half-assed vehicle mode?

>>6459206
It would look pretty good with a detail

>>6453805
Instagram.com/unlord666

>>6459206

Honestly, IDW Hotrod's vehicle mode is pretty garbage either way. But is that seriously what the SXS one will look like? Please tell me thats unpainted.

>>6459206
Calidus's doesnt look any better and with how much better Hot Flame's bot mode is I'm fine with it.

>>6459276
Thats the unpainted test piece, the legs are not painted there or the exhaust pipes.

>>6459206
>>6459276
>>6459291
chest also isn't painted so thats definitely a non painted one

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>>6459288

Honestly, I like Callidus. I like this one too. Mostly for different reasons. I tend to like MMC's designs, and Callidus is like a fusion of some of the IDW Hotrod's over the years with big-ass Wolverine claw pipes and the bulkier, more armored looking body, whereas the SXS is pure current IDW Hotrod.

>>6457850
Already bought the Iron Factory one but don't worry, Alpha Pack is still very much on my list (and near the top of it, too).

>>6457913
>Marvel Comics Grimlock
>not making the limbs blue
Fucking bullshit.

>>6457995
You did good, anon. You did good.

>>6458052
Will anyone ever do Lio Convoy (that isn't a piece of shit stylistically-different thing like Leonidas)?

>>6458079
>wtf is pic related
A Cybertronian truck. Didn't you read the comics...?

I get why people don't like it but I'm not sure why everyone keeps complaining about it. It looks fine...

>>6458508
What the fuck kind of Transformers fan are you? Are your fingers just fucking stumps?

And MMC Kultur and MT Striker Manus being more simple than MP cars? Fucking what, anon?

>>6458861
But unlike that abomination, it's possible to do them decently.

Just... not that shit.

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>>6459363
>but I'm not sure why everyone keeps complaining about it

Honestly, I think it's pretty well known at this point the weakest part of any IF figure is always the alt mode. Some are better than others, but most are pretty bare bones for Legends figures. Part of it probably comes from their design choices though, since they're pretty much almost nothing but cybertronian alt's.

>>6459376
I meant the Cybertronian truck alt mode. People have been complaining about it since War Within and they're STILL complaining about it.

It's not like Spark Toys and Iron Factory made this design up themselves.

>>6459379

I like it myself. Only real designs I'm not fond of are the Dynobots, and thats mostly because we got those designs over actual, IF Dinobots. Which now we'll probably never get.

Anons, I need help.

I want the GigaPower dinos but I'm not sure which versions to buy.

I know Guttur has hip problems that are fixable with replacement parts - that's not a problem since it's fixable.

I want either all chrome or all metallic but I can't decide which is better. Metallic Guttur is the only Guttur that comes with flame effect parts, right? I kinda want those but I prefer generally better tolerances and QC, so I'd probably go for the chrome version. I think I prefer the blue dino eyes but overall, the chrome one seems better in general.

But then Grassor confuses me. They released the CHROME version first and both the chrome and metallic Grassors have the flame effect parts. Is that right? So then is the QC better on metallic Grassor?

I really can't decide which to go for. I want good QC, as little paint chipping as possible, and nice colours (I don't mind that the two figures don't match with either version, as long as I get an all-chrome or all-metallic set).

>>6459383
Agreed. And to be fair, whilst I agree on Iron Factory's alt modes, I still really like them. I think the cutesy-ness of them helps (especially on the fembots).

>>6459387

If you're anal about paint and such, I'd skip chrome anything. Chrome shows any little defect, bit of dust, fingerprint, anything.

>>6459393
I'm usually fairly anal but I'm not too worried about chrome showing things like dust and fingerprints. It's more about it chipping. I'm not usually one for chrome but those Dinobots look so damn good in chrome.

Sort of separate, but does chrome tarnish from handling it e.g. from skin oils? I've noticed some of my official MPs have some tarnishing chrome and I've barely touched them.

>>6459411

Pretty sure chrome can tarnish from handling, yes. Skin oil just isn't good for ANYTHING, honestly.

>>6459417
brb getting a robot body

>>6458431
Why don't we have one where the legs of motormaster split and extend, then you insert partly transformed cars, then you transforme the main body and fold in the other cars?

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>>6459419
Goooood..... gooood.....

>>6459424
I-I'm having second thoughts now, anon.

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Mods are asleep; post shitty KOs.

>>6459529
>>6459531
I wish MakeToys or someone else could make a good Sideswipe, his torso is really too large and blocky for my tastes

>>6459573
Have you ever had one? It's pretty good in person.

That X-Transbots knock-off is fucking shit though.

new >>6459614

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My annoying chest tabs have broken and now the chest piece springs up and won't stay in the slit. How can I fix this? I've had to use a bobble to keep it down for now.

Always knew those tight tabs would be trouble.

>>6457625
Waiting for Ver. 3 with the mask.