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'Murrica Edition.

Post your GI Joes, Acid Rain, Marauders, Boss Fight HACKS, Shodo, PTE, BBi, and compatible figures, vehicles, playsets, and any dioramas/backgrounds/customs you've made.

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>>6403497
>being this much of a faggot instead of waiting for the last thread to sage and at least reach page 8 or 9 in a couple of days
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Bout my first Acid Rain fig at AX this past weekend.

He's pretty cool. Sorta wish I'd have bought more now.
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>>6405543
I can see why these are so popular now. Maybe I'll get a soldier next time.
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>>6405544
Or maybe I'll just stick to this guy. It'll make him more unique in my collection.
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>>6404335

I don't rate them. Their feet are too small, their forearms too.
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>>6405543
Nice I got the same one. I have one preordered from BBTS but I knew I would want more. If I had more money I would've gotten a few of the spacemen
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(not my pic)

fairly new to 1:18 here and and I have a question

Are the vests/chest rigs on acid rain figures removable?
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>>6405980
Yes, they are. Same goes for the cloth on some of the, too.
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>>6405984
cheers m8, it was the last detail I wanted to know before ordering my first 2
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>>6405543
>>6405547
>Sorta wish I'd have bought more
>I'll just stick to this guy

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit

So I bought Bob here some time back and was happy with him but after getting some Vitruvian HACKS hoplites I'd realized I caught the 1:18 bug again. Then, there was a thread here about "stuff you hesitate pulling the trigger on" because they were taking about Figma Table Museum, I mentioned Acid Rain, some Anon mentioned that Agurts Infantry 2.0 and Sol Commander are coming so I preordered some, then I couldn't wait for December so I bought Marine Infantry, Agurts Infantry original, Argus, Jack from eBay, and traded all my 1:6 fodder for 1:18 fodder comprising of mostly HACKS and Acid Rain bits and now I'm typing this out to you all after having just placed a huge Marauders order.

Plastic crack man
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>>6406047
Yup. Let it all out brotha. Step one is to accept you have a problem. Step two....well im not sure what step two is as im still struggling with step one.
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>>6405543
>>6405547
>>6406047
I bought Bob but that was it for me for Acid Rain. I like the vehicles but they're so fucking expensive I never seriously considered buying any.

I was interested in the smaller scale line but the prices for the vehicles in that are still too rich for my blood.
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>>6405544
>>6405543
I'm very meh toward the line.

I buy stuff from time to time, to test them out, but I really can't see myself buying a lot of them.

They're waaaaaay too rubbery for me. It's hard to pull ofa pose because of it not bending like it should and limbs just popping off.
I'm a fan of their Laurels though.

Prisoner Astronaut was lame. As were their power armor one that came with the original crate thingie they all come in now.

I was planning on getting their motorcycle thingie for comic con, but since i never bought it when it originally came out, I'm probably not. I don't want to buy it just because it's an exclusive.
So i'll probably just hold onto my money and hope they come out with more Laurel variants
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>>6406746
>It's hard to pull ofa pose because of it not bending like it should

Upload a picture, any picture, and I show you how Acid Rain can do that pose
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>>6406746
I don't find them rubbery - but they feel a bit *tacky* or gummy.
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>>6406047
I used to be heavy into 1:18 stuff. Particularly Joes. Not sure why but I sort of fell off the scale.

Mostly collect 1:12th now, but I still liek to revisit my old 1:18th stuff.


>>6406510
Yeah. It'd be nice to get a vehicle from them but Joe and SW stuff is good enough for me.
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>>6406746
The soft plastic doesn't bother me too much. But I must've lucked out cuz I haven't had any issues with limbs falling off.

I do sort of wish I'd gotten their green jeep from comic con last year (or was it 2 years ago?)
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>>6406986
This reminds me of the Sith Droids from KOTOR.
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>>6406909
I don't think that's what he meant, but here you go anyway.
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>>6407079
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>>6407135
>weapon not shouldered
>not looking down sight
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I'm just messing with you.
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>>6407144

It's a funny angle on the sights but as far as the shoulder goes the only trouble I've had posing weren't due to the figure itself but rather the rifle. It's just weird because of the huge stock.
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>>6407076
>>6407168
Hah. I see it.

>>6407079
>>6407135
This is fun.

>puppet can't look up.
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I asked in the Star Wars thread, but I'll ask her as well. What's the best Stormtrooper in 3.75 inch scale? I sold off my Vintage Collection one in a lot with a bunch of GI Joes, but realized I need one again to take goofy photos like pic related.
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>>6408921
If it's articulation you're after, you have pretty much the same two choices we've had since the Vintage Collection. Either the older sculpt with the swivel hips (on the left) or the Sandtrooper sculpt with the revised headsculpt and ball-hinge hips.

The Sandtrooper sculpt is probably easiest to get. It was re-released as part of the 3.75" Black Series as a regular Stormtrooper (pictured in the center) and while it was from earlier waves you probably shouldn't have trouble picking one up cheap.

Alternatively, Walmart is currently getting in the Sandtrooper proper with orange pauldron in their exclusive wave of 3.75" Black Series. That one has sand weathering though, which you might not be interested in.
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>>6407203
I've been playing KOTOR so I had the droids on my mind. How articulated is that figure? I'd like to incorporate a few into my Joe collection.
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>>6403497

Are we supposed to just keep talking about the smaller-scale Acid Rain stuff in this thread? It makes more sense than like, one of those Megablox threads.
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Just ordered Billy Arboc off of Ebay today.
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>>6395241.

To this anon you are right, usually I don't care about stuff like that. It was just a shitty day and I like to come here because buying/making toys is a stress relief. I'll admit I was being a bitch. And as for the figure I still do like it, maybe it doesn't translate to photos or maybe I'm just dumb and like shitty paint. But im not selling it or anything so im the only one that needs to like it
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I am really liking the 3.75" scale Vulture. The Target by me had them on clearance for $13.
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>>6408921
The best one is the Rogue One version, but it's 5 poa, but with a ball jointed head. The Vintage Collection is great for articulation but the sculpt sucks in comparison and the heads aren't swappable with the Rogue One version.

If you want my opinion go with Rogue One. The hip articulation is weird on the VC version and the helmet sculpt is so bad when you compare the two, plus they made the armor shiny on the RO one.
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>>6409296

I actually picked up the Rogue One stormtrooper after I realized I sold the vintage collection one. I love the sculpt, but not a fan of the limited articulation. I need more poseability, but the 5 POA has it's charms I guess.

Thanks for mentioning that the RO head isn't compatible with the old VC trooper. I was really curious if it would've worked.
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>>6409334
Swapping the heads was literally the first thing I tried. The peg on the neck of the VC one is just too big. You'd have to dremmel out the head of the RO version to make it fit.

I actually replaced all my VC troopers for the RO one. I really like the glossy finish on it and the sculpting work. It doesn't really bother me that it's 5 poa, but I'd still like a new high articulated Storm Trooper with that head.
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If anyone was curious about the bag of bones from bossfight

Here is what I got out of just 3 bags, 14 total full skellies, and only 3 arent a solid color. I was playing with paint, and the one on the far left im building up latex to "flesh"it out and make it more zombie. None of the paint is serious, its all just stuff I played around with.

Also that thing on the right is a monster im working on, I call it the abomination
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>>6410698
>>about the bag of bones from bossfight

What's this?
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>>6410728
Bossfight did a sale for these random grab bags of bones. Its just extras/warped pieces from the factory I believe but there is a lot of parts for a bag. Considering I spent $14 shipping included and got 14 skeletons (even if they are warped and miss matched colors) plus all that stuff I still have left, it was a great deal
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Is there any mad max/fallout style 1:18 figure out there?
Even vintage or bootleg ones. Post apocalyptic isn't really a toy thing.
I like raiders and shit
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>>6410815
Most of the Dreadnoks from the Joe line would qualify.
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>>6410815
Lanard and Remco each had a few Mad Max type designs.
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>>6410815
The Acid Rain line has prototypes made for a group of desert scavengers named the Soul Ghosts. No release date yet.

Pictured left to right: Chief, One-Eye, Skull, Shepard.
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>>6410815
This set looks like it's right out of New Vegas.
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>>6410758
Damn.
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I finally bought Footloose today. A few more FSS figures and I'll pretty much have all the core characters. I'll probably get Covergirl with my next check.
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>>6411776
I just can't spend that much on a single figure. I wish I could but it hurts my brain and my Scottish cheapness.
But Damn I want Magnum.
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>>6411788
That's not Magnum; Dial Tone and Claymore are GI Joe Magnum PI.

Also, you can get Tiger Force 2.0 Dial Tone cheap. Claymore's about $300-500 sadly, which is a shame given that he and Footloose have the best Mustache head sculpt of he entire line. Way way way way better than the garbage Mutt/Heavy Metal/Bazooka mustache head used at retail for all mustache characters not named Leatherneck/Gung Ho
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>>6411116
Tell me about Sophi.That's all I want.
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>>6411776

I seriously think he's one of the best figures they've made.
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>>6411982
My nigga
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If you guys could have any line of 1:18 figures what would it be? And movie/video game/or other thing that doesn't exsist already
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>>6413128
James Bond
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>>6413128
MAn, that's a tough one, where to even start? A Film Noir line. I admit that it doesn't have much for legs, but I've got a thing for the 1940s. Crimson Skies and Paolo Parente's Dust would be equally interesting to me. WWI figures would be up my alley, as well.
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>>6413152
Marauder is going to do a WW2 line, hopefully they branch out a bit from that.
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>>6413174
I'm equal parts excited and apprehensive about the Marauder WWII line.
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>>6413189
I'm worried I'm going to be bored. Normal WW2 GIs don't interest me.
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SDCC set revealed.
http://ew.com/news/transformers-gi-joe-mask-hasbro-toys-first-look/micronauts-1

>This is the Revolution Comic Crossover Mega-Set, which will retail for $99.99. While it’s debuting at Comic-Con, it will also be for sale at Canada’s Fan Expo – and it will be available in limited supply at HasbroToyShop.com.
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Action Man!
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>>6413218
Kind of a weird combination of designs. Marvel Rom, IDW Action Man and Matt Trakker, and Renegades Roadblock? And then Leoric is just... the Visionaries guy.
Still, it's cool to have all these in Joe scale.
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Visionaries
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INB4 BLACKED

How many of these will end up as easy customs with 25th Matt Trakker's heads?
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If the plan at retail the next few years is to just use Joe parts and do the other Hasbro IP then sign me the fuck up.
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What are some decent APCs in 1:18?

I've always had a massive boner for armoured personnel carriers and now that I have ordered my first acid rain figs I want to get an apc for them.

Even the quality is not great as long as it is hollow, has doors and wheels I can work with it as a base to customise
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>>6413193
I'm hoping for lots of peadot and sumpfmuster-bedecked SS-men and paratroopers, but I imagine the first wave will be pretty pedestrian units for both sides of the conflict.

>>6413237
21st Century Toys did both regular and R/C variants of an M113. Neither will be cheap anymore, and the R/C will naturally need to be gutted if you want to haul figures. If you go across the street to the IFV/AFV branch you've got a few more options.
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>>6413221
Really glad to have Renegades Roadblock, but disappointed at them getting cheap and not giving us the parts to change him into classic Roadblock like on the prototype version.
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Rom!

I'm torn on if I like this one because of the obvious Gung-Ho arms. Still looks cool though.
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A monster for Rom to fight
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>>6413218
That fucking Transformer is going to make buying this set hard to get now.

Fuck.
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>>6413222
Aww, no holograms on the Visionaries knight.
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>>6413237
I fucking love the DTC Hiss. Just remove the turret, add some M&C PTE humvee working lid on that hole (they are compatible) and you have a great APC that can transport about 5 figures inside.
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>>6413240
>>6413410
Thanks, these are both great but a bit out of my price range mainly due to the shipping to Italy.

I'll keep looking, maybe modify a model kit
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>>6413318
Well, it's not exactly going to be in high demand - it's the exact same Jetfire that was released a few years back, in his Japanese colors that everyone who wanted them will've ordered online.
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>>6413246
I'm glad to see this but this (and the use of the parts on the damn Wraith (what the fuck is up with that body?) is just shitting on consumers when we could have had a full Renegade line (I want my Battlesuit Baroness you fucks) and a finished fucking Renegades cartoon which would have kept the line more in the public eye.
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>>6413128

Just regular ass guys. Not post apocalyptic, not in cartoon GI Joe colors, just regular ass guys. I'd like some in 1/12 too.
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>>6413599
those figures are ass.

The faces are like a kid's idea of a mask and some thingsl ike the knee pads not being sculpted in was a stupid design choice.

I'm pretty sure the guns are oversized too, because they're awful at holding them despite having good articulation.

>>6413581
I hope it does well, but fuck... i really dislike lines and hope to get the left overs on Friday evening.
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>>6413599

Generic guys are all over the place. Our War aren't that great. Lots of paint rub off. Great for display but if you handle them enough you'll lose the ACU print and you'll be left with the tan undercoat. They're rubbery, not Acid Rain rubbery but rubbery.
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>>6413128
>If you guys could have any line of 1:18 figures what would it be?
Half Life. Specifically HECU Marines, Combine, Resistance, "Barneys", scientists etc.
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>>6413128

Danger Girl

You could have figures of the team, various Enemies and Hammer Empire goons.
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>>6413128
Warhammer 40k(please god!), Metal Gear Solid, Demon/Dark Souls, Mass Effect, and Spawn(HBO animated series). Please, someone, take my money!
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>>6413128
Xenozoic Tales/Cadillacs & Dinosaurs

Plenty of neat characters, pair them with 1/18 articulated in scale dinosaur toys including some larger beasts, a couple of kitted out vehicles like cars and sailboats, even a few playsets.
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>>6414004

You win this game
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>>6414004

Please.
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>>6414004

Into my veins
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>>6414004

Can I add S.T.A.L.K.E.R?

Customizable Loners
Freedom and Duty (both with Exo-variants)
Mercs, Monolith and the army
and a host of monsters.
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>>6413128
Cold war era military. From US, soviet, vietnamese, African, UK etc.

Basically BBi/XD ultimate soldier etc but instead of shit figures, nice ones with HACKS like articulation and customization.
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>>6406979
nice shot!!!
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>>6414008
>>6414048
>>6414056
Damn, well thanks for the support boys. Maybe I'll reach out and see if I can get the ball rolling on this. This is honestly my dream toyline.
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>>6414061
Speaking of which...
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>>6414385
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>>6414001
>>6414061

40k and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 1:18 figures?

SIGN ME THE FUCK UP BOY, I'M OFF TO SELL MY NON ESSENTIAL ORGANS
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>>6413128
Fallout. Lots of swappable parts and accessories to build your custom vault dweller. Army building raiders, super mutants, ghouls, BoS, Enclave, NCR, Legion, etc.
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>>6414061
>>6414088
Yes fucking please.

Though I can make S.T.A.L.K.E.Rs, I just need more COMBLOC small arms and equipment options.
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>>6413218
I don't care about this set. there's 300 gi joe characters keep them their own thing.
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>>6413229
Why is Matt Trakker black?
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Can the Marauders Task Force figures be pulled apart at the waste the way the Vitruvian HACKS buck can?
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>>6415558
yes they have a ball joint
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>>6415440
IDW and Hasbro keep trying to make their properties more diverse. They did it with Jem, making characters fat lesbians. And they've been doing it heavy with the ne Joe comic, recasting Salvo as a sassy fat black woman and trying to get rid of guns from the book, because gins scare the numale writer.
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>>6415440
Meh, i dont mind. I have the white Matt Trakker so I can easily do a head swap. The black Matt Trakker head I will use for a custom Vanguard from the Plague so am happy about that.
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>>6415440
Who cares, it's fodder regardless.
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>>6414001
Raginspoon Toxo Kit?
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>>6415713
No, i had an original Toxo Viper that was busted so I used a Dremel to remove the armor.
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>>6415796
I did buy Sludge Viper's helmet from Raginspoon though.
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>>6411788
He's badass. I've been slowly buying up exclusives for the past three years, getting one here and there, because they can cost anywhere between $40 and $100+.

>>6411808
Thank God, Claymore isn't a major or essential character. It'd drive me crazy since the only one on ebay right now is listed at $480. I'll never buy him. I focus mainly only on characters featured in the Cartoons or comics, or from the 90's period.
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I wish Hasbro would just use the build for Footloose and make a movie accurate Falcon.
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>>6416582
Try it in Canada....
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Zombie Lab pics
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These will be a game changer for Hacks
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Two or three of those I wouldn't mind having.
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Just bought Cross-Country off of someone for $40.
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>These will be a game changer for Hacks
>>6418525
>>6418528
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>>6418533

All of my WANT.
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>>6418524
hory sheet me fucky
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>>6418524

Can't wait.

I hope they come with gory stubs
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>>6418524
its a shame shes so tall
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>>6418524
Nice, but wave 3?
>>6418525
Like it.
>>6418528
Not bad but based on how much these things are going to cost I'm not going to stock up much on the boring human dudes.
>>6418530
Pretty useful figure. Wave 4 though. Soooo.. 2019?
>>6418533
Meh.
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>>6419033

Yeah, it's probably like Boss Fight's H.A.C.K.S releases.

Wave 1 was the Spartan, Coral Snake Gorgon, Medusa & Stone Spartan.
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>>6418640
When I was like 7-10 I had some joes that ended up losing an arm or a leg so I used a magnifying glass to melt up those stumps and put red testors on! :D
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>>6418981
THANK YOU.
No one has really been saying this. If they had kept her in scale but made her smaller it would have been perfect. The keep it in the same genre she could have possibly been used for appropriately scaled customs of Buffy or Ellie form last of Us. She's not a "High School Student" She's a cosplaying 24 year old.
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>>6418981
Onechanbara chick is tall
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>>6419033
>2019?
Don't think so. Remember there is a KS going, so around a year from now I'd say.
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>>6418981
>>6419142
Soooo... let me get this straight. They are working on figures 100% hacks compatible for the sake of swapping parts and custom AND you want they come with a figure incompatible with the lot and a mold who can't be reused..?
Neat.
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>>6418981
Looks like you get to keep your pedo money.
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>>6419084
That's totally clever and not psychopathic at all.
Nah, that's legit neat and I like stories like this. The kids fuckin' up animals tho, those are the real psyhopaths
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With Sol Com and Agurts 2.0 coming out what are the odds the Marine will be reissued?

I'd love more but these fuckers are kinda hard to get.
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>>6419518
Yes. If you can't do the figure properly then don't do it at all.

>>6419614
Take your stupidity elsewhere. A schoolgirl design should be short. Look at the artwork they did for the figure, it's much shorter than the others.
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>>6418605
Nice figure. It's too bad so many Joes that could or should have been part of the line released to retail were reserved for Club or Convention exclusives. Now the only chance to have them is the overpriced secondary market, for "exclusive" figures that were overpriced in the first place.

Wonder how many figures will make it back into a regular retail lineup, now that they have been released as exclusives. Here's a partial list up to 2013 of Club/Convention figures. Seems a bad idea to make such a large amount of figures that had earlier retail versions, only available in this manner.

Law & Order, Alpine, Big ben, Crimson Guard Immortal, Dr. Mindbender, Frostbite, Muskrat, Psyche-Out, Repeater, Spearhead, Dial-Tone, Grunt, Metal-Head, Chuckles, Steeler, Recondo, Sgt.Stalker, Big Bear, Cross-Country, Grand Slam, Keel-Haul, Crazy Legs, Clutch, Toxo-Viper, Big Boa, Cover Girl, Desert Scorpion, Iceberg, Topside, Charbroil, Frag Viper
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>>6420397
true but this would mean new mods for it and this figures seems to be made with compativility in mind, the only new body we will have is the fat guy one (tfw no muscle female or thicc female bodies...)
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>>6420607

Those days are never coming back anon.

They can't keep ARAH as thing anymore. G.I. Joe will have to evolve into something different, size/design wise to.

The 50th was the last gasp along with the Club offerings. Nothing last forever, so just enjoy what you can and move on.
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>>6420607
Retaliation tried to fix things by doing high quality updates of figures from the 25th line as Ultimates. Pic related is the unreleased Ultimate Roadblock that we're sorta getting in the SDCC set. It had a head and vest to make him Roadblock version 2 along with the Renegades version.

I think Hasbro is trying to make cheaper exclusive Joes by doing things outside of the club with these recent sets they're doing.

As for all the good figures being exclusive, it's because Hasbro isn't doing classic 25th style figures that are true to the cartoons and comics anymore. At retail they're trying to do new things and so we'll rarely get any sought after unmade characters. 50th sought to appease everyone, re-releasing hard to get figures and concept case figures and new versions of characters. 50th and Retaliation were the two best lines in my view.
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>>6420915

PoC/30th/Retaliation/50th was a good run.

Minus a few hick-ups like the two action feature Snake-Eyes and Storm shadow . The Red Night Viper, early 50th quality problems, Retaliations reduced articulation in some early figures and drivers.

3 releases of fucking Blowtorch.
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>>6420924
>3 releases of fucking Blowtorch.
Try four! He was in 25th, POC, and twice in 50th. Fucking fans on Joe boards demanded to have green Blowtorch because he and Python Patrol Croc Master were almost in POC. He's not even a bad figure but was unneeded and wasted a figure slot. I sometimes wonder if Hasbro listened too closely to the loudest and most annoying fans who attend all the cons.

Wave 2 of 50th was the weakest. They put out Green Blowtorch and a useless Spirit in that wave. Spirit had a terrible build. The vest inhibited movement and the hands were all wrong for the rifle he came with. The result was that you could barely pose him with his rifle. He only looked good in a single pose with it.

Waves 1 and 3 were solid though.
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>>6420952
> I sometimes wonder if Hasbro listened too closely to the loudest and most annoying fans who attend all the cons.

Suchis the GI Joe conundrums. Casuals don't care enough to buy figures, fans complain about needing niche bullshit no one else wants.
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>Tiger Force homage
>5 inch
Way to drop the ball, Todd.
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>>6421258
he always fucks up on scale
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>>6421258
serioulsy.. WHY.
I mean if you wanna be "like Joes" at least get the scale right. Otherwise your "collectables " are just gonna straddle that line between 1/18 and 6 inch. making them compatible with.. nothing?
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>>6420691
That's kind of what I don't get. When PoC, 30th, and Renegades Joes were stocked at retail they seemed to sell pretty well. Aside from a few pegwarmers like Arctic Destro and Blowtorch, I often found empty pegs. Hasbro likely has the real numbers but I don't know if they'd ever tell us. Before the Retaliation figures, Joe DID evolve into something different. It seemed like a lot of customers, myself included, were happy to fork over the cash for them.

Wonder how many of Joe's recent troubles can be attributed to restocking shortages, case assortment pegwarming mistakes, lackluster and shelf-clogging first waves, and tying figures to movie releases. Changing figure sizes seems like a mistake; see Sigma 6.
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>>6422228

Retaliation's release date change in the cinemas certainly didn't help.

As for figure size changing, I feel a smaller figure like the Transformers Human Alliance or Kenner M.A.S.K or Tyco Dino-Rider would have worked. But let's face it Mega Bloks/Construx bet them to the punch with the Call of Duty line.

I think the boat has been missed, no shared universe will save G.I Joe,
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>>6420915
Ah yes, Retaliation. When the poor quality first wave stagnated on store shelves, no regular retailers around here carried the Ultimate wave. I made a couple road trips to Tuesday Morning closeout stores to find some. If that Roadblock in your pic is only released in some SDCC set, then we aren't really getting it.

>I think Hasbro is trying to make cheaper exclusive Joes by doing things outside of the club with these recent sets they're doing.
Which sets are you referring to? I'm a bit out of the loop. The words "cheaper" and "exclusive" don't seem to work well in the same sentence. That cheaper Dollar General line was a good start, if the often empty pegs around here were any indication. Some tweaking to reduce the chance of pegwarmers and it could've worked, but nope...cancel that line. One issue with current stuff is the lack of single figures. I don't want to buy a two or three pack that contains a figure(s) that I don't like or already have.

>As for all the good figures being exclusive, it's because Hasbro isn't doing classic 25th style figures that are true to the cartoons and comics anymore.
I don't really know what constitutes 25th style. The Joes I was buying in recent years, and those exclusives listed in the other post don't seem to resemble the old cartoons. Doing new things is fine, but if everything's being sold in 2 and 3 packs like the 50th that's a non-starter for me. And reserving sought after figures as exclusives is dumb; better to not release it at all then.

>>6420924
>3 releases of fucking Blowtorch.
When the 30th line showed up again in small amounts at TRU and Walgreen's, the hunt was on. Upon finding them, there was often a unique combination of emotions that I rarely experience elsewhere. It is the initial joy of spotting the GI Joe tag from afar, quickly followed by the disappointment of finding nothing but a peg full of Blowtorches.
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>>6421258
Yes! Yeees...! YES!!!
>5 inch
NOOOOO!!
Why you had to show it here you glorious bastard??
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>tfw just went through all my old gi joes
Fuck i feel empty now
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Couple items here from Dollar Tree. Finally decided to try one of the Extreme Fighting sets; it may sound weird but even if something's a buck I don't like buying it for only a portion of the contents. The figures are BAD and it's hard to imagine a kid wanting them when they're donated to a thrift store. The ladder is OK, not as good as the one from marauderinc. Dumbbells are fine too; they'd both look better primed and painted.

Other sets included a large chainsaw and spiked club, or a portion of fence and a crutch. Also of note the Military set is re-released in a more tactical-ish color than the previous light grey. The kayak set was absent.

>>6422268
Yes I recall that. People were trying to make the best of the figures, like the "Shoot Me Neon Blue" Cobra Trooper, Alien Corpse Zartan, and Yet Another Snake Eyes. Then Whoosh! off to the clearance aisle or stored away(?) until the movie release. I would've bet money that up to a year ago I could go to a Wal-Mart clearance aisle and find a Battle-Kata Roadblock with get-this-thing-off-my-hand action. He's actually not a bad figure with the gun thing removed, just a slight case of 25th Viper gimp wrist.

I wonder if going smaller than 4 inches would only work well if the focus is mainly on the vehicles, or buildable construction toys. M.A.S.K. and Dino Riders were all about the vehicles and dinos, with figures as a bonus (but I never had either growing up). My one M.A.S.K. figure is a shade under 3 inches and it's hard to see that as the main part of a character-driven toy line. Would the 2.5 inch Sigma 6 Mission Scale figures and vehicles sell any better today?

I think a shared universe could work if they just put in the same care and effort that the PoC and 30th line got. And for chrissakes actually keep product on the shelves, not that "buy it now or you'll never see it again" of previous Joe figures. But who knows, 1:18 at retail seems like a dying breed these days and maybe nothing will work.
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>>6422343
>Which sets are you referring to? I'm a bit out of the loop.

The missle command playset that Hasbro is reproducing for $50 and will be for sale online and same goes for the new crossover set, which will be $100. This is a major deal conpared to what the Club would have to have charged.

>I don't really know what constitutes 25th style

Like pic related
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>>6422268
>>6422228
Stores are pretty linear.
Retaliation sat in stock forever because there was no movie push and since stores over-order movie related products, it looked really bad. So by the time Retaliation came out, stores weren't happy with sales and weren't going to order anything anymore.

Past sales don't matter, even if they were really good.
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I really wish they just kept making the 25th anniversary figures
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>>6422863
I don't, it got fucking lazy and dull, RoC/PoC/30th gave joe what it really needed a modern take that furthered it's self from the goofiness of the old

either way I'm hoping we see a "Revolution" line as the stop gap between 50th and Nu-Joe come 2019
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>>6422836
>>1:18 at retail seems like a dying breed these >days and maybe nothing will work.

The figures are there - just not Joes.
Tru has it's own line and that takes up a row (or in my TRU's case both sides of a row) with nothing but Marvel in another - although most of them are peg-warming Iron man or the weirdly HUGE figures. - um a foot and a half or so tall. I dunno. tall anyway. I only shop for Marvel for heads. And then there is Star Wars. shitty articulation, most stuff on sale for 4 bucks. with the 2 figure sets selling for $16 (well that makes sense).
1:18 are still around but Joes. - nope. and a movie isn't going to bring them back. a "shared universe " with characters only 30 year olds or older know isn't going to bring them back.
Renegades would have had a chance - well with any sort of staying power and actually finishing the series. That's what Joes need. a well done cartoon series. not a movie, not a mini series. but something long running that networks will pick up.
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Zombie Lab pics
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>>6423241
The looks a lot like a Fallout Feral Ghoul.
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>>6423241
I like the "wet look"
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>>6423246
>>6423244
>>6423243
>>6423241
Are they going to be charging extra for these types of paint jobs, or is that meticulous painting all for naught and just hype?
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>>6423277
We don't know yet.
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>>6422981
I cant even find GI joe figures anymore, its like they dropped off the face of the earth here where i live, all i find now are cheap knock off brands.
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Went to my mom's house yesterday and found this old BBi P-51 with my old shit
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>>6423391

Yeah I couldn't find a single Snake Eyes/ Storm Shadow from that last Hasbro run. I figured that would be the most stocked and least bought only to never find anything from that wave at TRU.
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>>6423521
I havent seen any Joes since they ended the 25 anniversary run, it's been like 8 years now
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>>6423516

Get in loser, we're going shopping
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>>6423516
very jelly
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The only time I see joes are in comic book stores, marked up to hell.
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>>6422842
Hmm. According to yojoe, that Missile Command set was released in 1982 for 10.99. Two inflation and Consumer Price Index calculators say it should cost about 28 dollars today. Considering it comes with three figures that look very similar to ones we've gotten in good quantities before, $50 doesn't seem like such a good deal. If the Club would've charged more than $50 they're even more of a ripoff.

That Revolution crossover set looks interesting; it's the first I've seen of how Hasbro is doing the Visionaries and M.A.S.K. lines. I know almost nothing about ROM, Action Man, and Micronauts--and I was born in 1977. I'd be interested in buying a few of the figures, but if Hasbro only ever offers them in a boxed set I'll pass. Not really a fan of Transformers, that seems to be a reissued Leader Class (?) Jetfire. Looks a bit cheap, wonder if it also suffers from the cheaper plastic quality Transformers fans have been talking about in recent years.

>Like pic related
It's pretty easy to see which of those are 25th figures. The sometimes small heads, gangly bodies, and diaper-crotches are good things to leave behind. But the last few exclusive Dial-Tones, that Sgt. Slaughter, Cross-Country, Leatherneck, and Iceberg would have fit in just fine with the PoC/30th figures---which, except for a few pegwarmers, seemed to completely sell out around here. I would have bought those instead of the first waves of Retaliation and 50th figures, and I imagine plenty of others would too.

>>6422854
So a combination of movie tie-ins and crappy first wave figures is the problem? Maybe if Retaliation's first wave didn't suck so much ass, and wasn't such an obvious downgrade from PoC/30th they wouldn't have sat as long. I think past sales do matter, because they can help show what you're doing wrong. Maybe movie tie-ins do more harm than good.
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> Two inflation and Consumer Price Index calculators say it should cost about 28 dollars today.
If you only took that into consideration, sure, but it's not only that.
Go look at how much 4" figures have been selling for. They're all $12 or more per figure today. Considering this is an exclusive and single convention exclusives have sold for $15 before (sgt Slaughter, Zaranna in 2011/2010), it's a fairly good deal.

Compare this to SDCC exclusive Thrawn for $50 (Obi Wan was $45 in 2016), it's a better deal.

>I think past sales do matter, because they can help show what you're doing wrong.
It helps Hasbro know what they're doing wrong, but retailers don't care. They only care about how the line is doing now and they base their future shelves on the here/and/now. They ordered a massive amount of stock and they only care that it should have moved.
This isn't to say that they're unforgiving or that they have a shit memory, because they'll repeat the same mistake over and over again. If GI Joe has another movie, they'll order up a ton of quantities again, even if it bombs on em.
See all Mattel movie DC lines and how they still carry bombastic shit, because a new movie is a new movie.
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>>6424315

the only good figures in that picture are Slaughter and Cross-Country.

The two SDCC Slaughter figures were a one off thing due him being WWE and Mattel having those rights. So it's rather special that he got made at all.

the other three are terrible.
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>>6424602
Yes, I'm curious how those prices work out. Last I checked a Joe 50th two pack was about $17, so it stands to reason a single carded figure would be about $8-9 like they were a few years ago with 30th Joes at Wal-Mart, Target, and TRU--if they sold 50th single carded Joes. Were there fluctuations in oil prices that caused an increase in toy prices; but when oil prices dropped the costs stayed high? I don't know. Slapping the "Exclusive" name on something is just a way to create artificial scarcity and jack up the perceived value, like diamonds.

Either way it's three figures and a cardboard diorama. The artificial box weathering implies Hasbro is trying to milk a few nostalgia dollars. It does look nice, just not $50 nice. At that price it should be plastic. I doubt many parents would buy a $50 cardboard set for their kid, so that shows Hasbro priced it for the adult collector. The original seems to have been made when Hasbro wasn't sure if Joe's return would be a sure thing, so cardboard kept costs down (yojoe says it cost a few dollars more than the VAMP, HAL, and MMS).

Considering Joe's current precarious state, the naive part of me thinks it would've been nice if Hasbro priced this one more in keeping with the original and sold it in a way more people would be able to buy it. Offering it in limited quantities at hasbrotoyshop, when they currently have nothing Joe related for purchase, is another dumb move.

>It helps Hasbro know what they're doing wrong, but retailers don't care.
Guess Hasbro should not have made the decision to produce that sub-par Retaliation first wave. With better quality they might've sold well despite Paramount pushing the release date back. But there seems to be a chain of mistakes made there, and clearancing the toyline didn't help. Didn't PoC and 30th sell well despite no movie tie-in? What's this weird fixation on tie-ins?
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>>6424789
To each their own. I'd rather have a chance to buy those exclusive figures than, for example, "cross-eyed Colton", "bad makeup day Baroness", and "jungle slug ate brain Lady Jaye".
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In case you guys didn't see this post
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>>6425940

Really?
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>>6425940
>>6426079
This is why I don't really care about Joe going away at retail.

Everyone on HISS Tank was going apeshit over the 2016 three packs hitting Ross stores and I have one on my way to work so I hit it up. Found a single Joe three pack. I mean it's fine but feels so cheaply made it might as well be a dollar store figure. $12 for a three pack is a good price but I still felt like I overpaid based on the quality.

People bitch about the third party figures like Marauder etc costing a lot(and they do) but the quality is much nicer. So if I end up buying 1 Marauder figure for every 5 or 6 Hasbro figures I could be buying(theoretically, since I can't because they're not offered) I'm fine with that.

Most Hasbro figures are like cheap parts fodder for kitbashes at this point.
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>>6425940
I bought that Baroness pack, but that's because I collect Baroness toys

I already have the superior Cobra 5 pack version of that head sculpt. Of course, the exclusive ones like Resolute and Balloonhead-with-Ravage will likely never get motivated enough to purchase.
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>>6426085
The version with Ravage is my favorite. She looks great with the Retaliation and 50th Cobra Commander.
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>>6425832
Something tells me you either didn't collect the GI Joe lines and are very new.
We always got deals from multi-packs. Stuff like pic was $10 when the GI Joe singles were selling for $7-8. So prices never directly translated 1:1.

>Were there fluctuations in oil prices that caused an increase in toy prices; but when oil prices dropped the costs stayed high?
If oil was the only reason, you'd have a point, but Chinese slaves were revolting during 2007-2010. They got better pay and it's why almost every single Chinese made product across the board started going up in price since that time. From cheese graters to PAKs. You even saw companies starting to slip up with QC or cheap out on features to retain their price, if not go full retard and upping the price like crazy (PAKs).
It's only today that we're actually returning to the point of higher quality products from back then or even adding features.

>Slapping the "Exclusive" name on something is just a way to create artificial scarcity and jack up the perceived value
I'm 100.7% sure that the vast majority of convention exclusives are made purely for fans, by fans, because there's no way stuff like the Cobra Missile Command would have ever made it to the market without being an exclusive.
The fact that they cost so much is solely because that's how the cost of production works out when producing smaller numbers. It's the same reason why they can sell you two figures in a set for 50% less than you buying two figures individually.

Of course, some crazy conspiracy people think that somehow Hasbro profits from scalpers selling shit for 200%+ mark up, and i'd love to hear your lizard people rule the world rant about how that's true.

>What's this weird fixation on tie-ins
Retailers care and shit does move more products by being related to cartoons/movies/celebrities. Retailers note this trend, hence taking a chance on really stupid bad shit like Mattel's GL figures. Fact of life.
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>>6426079
Okay, you have a point on Dial-Tone. Something looks a bit off there.

>>6426085
Yeah, I've got a couple RoC Baronesses that look decent. I wanted to buy the Social Clash set, and it was tempting for $10 clearance. But I swear every package at two TRUs had just really bad face paint. I'm pretty tolerant of paint errors on other parts of the figure, but the faces and eyes really need to look decent.

>>6426360
I'll have to take your word on prices, got back into Joes at the tail end of RoC and missed any older two packs.

>It's only today that we're actually returning to the point of higher quality products from back then or even adding features.
I wasn't too bothered when Walgreens was selling 30th figures for 10-11 dollars. So you'd think if Hasbro can sell a two pack for $17, single carded figures for 10-11 should be feasible. Not that I doubt you but a source on that China wage issue would help.

>there's no way stuff like the Cobra Missile Command would have ever made it to the market without being an exclusive.
Why not? It's *three figures and some cardboard*. Suppose we'll have to see how long it takes for the limited quantities at Hasbro's site to sell out. Depending on how many parts are reused that should offset tooling costs. If it moves, make more and put them on the hasbrotoyshop site. Hell, put SOMETHING on the website, and not just two or three packs, or sets. People can't buy your stuff if you don't sell it, and I swear on the occasions Hasbro did have Joes on their site they sold out fairly quick.
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>>6426433
cont.

I don't think Hasbro profits from scalper's antics, but they do have an interest in perpetuating this convention exclusive thing. That's fine. I have never, and will never buy one. Just don't like the exclusive collector mentality or when companies cater excessively to it. Honestly I never once looked at whatever this Club or the conventions sold until recently, because there was enough decent stuff to buy at retail. It's only when there was no product, sub-par product, or now with nothing but multi-packs, that I started to wonder what was up.

Also, everyone knows lizard people don't rule the world. That would be Cobra Commander, through an intricate web of shell companies. And he's a snake.

>Retailers care and shit does move more products by being related to cartoons/movies/celebrities.
I don't have any other source, but yojoe says Rise of Cobra toy sales didn't perform up to expectations. Do we have any sales numbers on how well PoC/30th sold? Seemed to sell without a movie tie in. I wonder what the sales on Retaliation look like. It just seems like movie tie-ins have been a bad idea for GI Joe, but maybe that's due to Hasbro's figure quality decisions. I also wonder where all those GL figures ended up.
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>>6426433
>three figures and some cardboard
Cardboard is pretty damn expensive.
The packaging itself is a significant cost, more than what the figure costs (either materials and/or assembly). A diorama itself? Even more.
Go look at the prices of those diorama cardboard sets that one company is making to get an idea of how much some standalone collection of solidified plant mash with squirted ink costs.

>single carded figures for 10-11 should be feasible
Current MU figures cost $12 and they're lacking in articulation. Almost all other 1:18 lines are $20, if not more.
You're trying to pretend it's still 2012, but that is not the case. 2017 is pretty expensive and you're no longer a child. 2009 wasn't just yesterday.

>Why not?
Because there is almost no retail support. For some nostalgiabait? I doubt even BBTS would touch it with a ten foot pole.
So what outlets are left? Conventions, where Hasbro themselves is footing the bill to sell them directly to fans.

>If it moves, make more and put them on the hasbrotoyshop site
This costs a lot of money. The only way to get an accurate number to sell to, they'd have to do a pre-order like Kickstarter and do it from there.
However, is it in Hasbro's interest to take the time and resources to make 5,000 sets again? Nope.
Hasbro uses the convention exclusives to drum up hype. So they're doing fanboys a solid by releasing previously unreleasable products, but it's to garner media attention at the same time.

So doing a kickstarter isn't really in a lot of companies things to do list, because Hasbro is a business that has more important things to do that catering hand and foot to a very tiny base that is willing to pony up a lot of cash for very niche products.
So they'll put their workers to work on products that sell millions of units vs less than 5,000.
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>>6426459
I'm wondering where you are getting the numbers on costs to make your claims. Unless you're on Hasbro's payroll, it's speculation on how their costs break down. But there is this: "But wages make up only 7 percent to 9 percent of Hasbro's manufacturing costs, Goldner said, and the company, which does not own its factories in China, is making greater use of automation."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-retail-summit-china-idUSTRE75S4BO20110629

>Almost all other 1:18 lines are $20, if not more.
What 1:18 retail line costs $20 or more? Does Hasbro make most of the available 1:18 lines? These two Marvel Legends figures seem to have good articulation, aside from wrists (?) I'm not trying to pretend anything, things don't seem to be as expensive as you're making them out to be.

>However, is it in Hasbro's interest to take the time and resources to make 5,000 sets again? Nope.
How do you know what's in their best interests? This seems like a product that they could make more of if there's enough demand, since it is three figures and cardboard. Like a holiday release or something, instead of "whoops you missed it LOL"

>So they're doing fanboys a solid by releasing previously unreleasable products
Guess we'll see how the thing sells. Are you one of the fanboys they're doing a solid for?

Do you work in some related industry? You make a lot of assertions and I'm wondering where you get the facts and figures they're based on.
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>>6426360
>>6426459
You're too reasonable to be a toy collector on 4chan.
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>>6425940
I've seen someone re-apply the paint aps on both the Baroness and Lady J and the sculpts are solid. I dust don't have enough skill myself but the idea that there were no singles in this line made it suck.
- also why the fuck are star wars figures heads (not to even comment on the crap articulation and limited movement) so small. like disproportionality so?
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>>6426547
>I'm wondering where you are getting the numbers on costs to make your claims
It was in one of Hasbro's stock holder packets.
It's pretty damn significant, one of the greatest costs for your toys. So let this sink in when it comes the next kickstarter you back that wants to include packaging, despite never hitting retail.
Note what tooling costs.

Thsoe figures you posted? Those have less articulation than GI Joes. No wrists, no waist/torso. They're $13.

>How do you know what's in their best interests?
Because they're a business. Getting factories, labor, marketing, etc requires resources from Hasbro, and the costs of doing business is pretty damn high. Again, Hasbro is used to making toys in the hundreds of thousands to millions. For them to put in the effort to try and make this for retail, that retail has already said they won't accept, it's a huge waste of effort.
It's a billion times easier for Hasbro just to manufacture stuff and leave it as marketting. It's an ensured sell out, or enough to be successful.

So because of the limited numbers that they do produce and WOULD produce if it was a hasbrotoyshop only thing, it would NOT be in retail prices. So it would not be $12.99. It'd be what other 1:18 lines cost.
So $13 x 3 already puts the cost of the Missile set at $39 already. To include a bunch of cardboard and sell it for $50, when other JUST and ONLY cardboard sets cost $40... well, where the hell is your brain at?

>Are you one of the fanboys they're doing a solid for?
You're posting on /toy/ in a GI Joe thread. We're talking about things only fanboys care about. Everyone here is a fanboy.

>>6426698
Sometimes i feel like im the only person over 15 on this board
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>>6426547
I run a small 3rd party operation. I can tell you from first hand experience that the costs of Chinese action figure production has more than doubled in the last 5 years. I'm not talking about just labor wage increase, this is total cost from start to finish. So a brand new project from start to finish literally costs twice as much as it did 5 years ago. This is a significant impactful change in the industry.
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My Cross-Country and Billy Arboc arrived in the mail. Just waiting now for Big Lob to get here. Cross-Country's my new favorite.
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>>6426835
You're right, the sculpts are good. Like you, I wasn't sure about fixing the paint apps. I also saw them around the time I'd just paid the ever-increasing property tax bill, and was in one of those thrifty moods where buying two figures with bad paint didn't feel worth it. Some paint slop on the waist, feet, or arm? Not that big a deal. But on the face, or if they have pug eyes? I agree the lack of single packs was frustrating. I'd love to buy a couple more Vipers, but not when they come with the Iron Grenadier I already have two of.

>>6427076
>Thsoe figures you posted? Those have less articulation than GI Joes. No wrists, no waist/torso. They're $13.
Which company stipulated the articulation amount, Hasbro or Marvel. Don't Star Wars figures have swivel hips because Lucas wanted them? There must be licensing costs as well for SW and Marvel figures. Also, it seems Hasbro produces the majority of retail 1:18 figures currently. I wonder how that affects their pricing strategy. Who do they compete against?

>Getting factories, labor, marketing, etc requires resources from Hasbro, and the costs of doing business is pretty damn high.
Still, they seem to be doing pretty well, as pic related shows. Is it the chain of Hasbro/Paramount Retaliation screw-ups that turned retailers off from stocking GI Joe figures? An ensured sell out is good, but like other convention exclusive manufacturers, they knowingly make product in limited runs that will have more demand than supply. When there's currently available options for customers/potential customers at retail that's fine. Doing it when there's little to nothing for average fans seems a bit in bad taste.

Also, there's no need to resort to childish insults. We can have a mature, respectful discussion, right?

> Everyone here is a fanboy.
Speak for yourself, I guess. Maybe this is a side effect of making exclusive "collector oriented" figures; it fosters a division among consumers.
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Just ordered Law & Order. I'm one more step away from completing the Rawhides. I only need to pick up Tunnel Rat.
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>>6427508
This is the line you should be collecting. You should probably start a Corps general and stay over there. To many "elite exclusive collectors" in these thread. Wouldnt want to get upset over their snobby exclusive attitudes that they so blatantly display.
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>>6427362
Nice! Crosscountry is a favorite of mine too. I skipped Billy. What do you think of him?
>>6427510
That's a nice figure right there. I really love that headsculpt. I skipped the clubs version since i was happy with my POC version. What version of tunnel rat are yoi looking for?

>>6427560
Amen. What alien is that?
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What happened to that Sectaurs line? Is that still on track?
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>>6427690
Bull Alien by Kenner.
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>>6427690
Billy's pretty good. He's not an essential character unless you're hardcore into the comics. The build is good and so is the head sculpt. His sword can be a little tricky to store since it clips in place on his web gear and you got clip it on just right or it'll pop off after a minute or so due to the curve of the blace and the grooves near the hilt. I'd say the only negative on mine is there's some un-painted dots on his inside under arm for his right side near the joint, but it's in a completely hidden spot, so who cares? I figure if it bothers me I could always paint the dots.

I'm debating between the 25th version of Tunnel Rat and Renegades one. I'm leaning toward 25th because he looks pretty decent still and closest to the Sunbow look. I strive more in my collection for figures that look like either the cartoon or comics, that's the most important to me. However the Renegades version looks really good as well and not too overly different from his classic look.
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>>6427698
I think so, but I think it's another kickstarter or something, so there hasn't been any news since the reveal.
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>>6427508
>There must be licensing costs as well for SW and Marvel figures.
Yes, and the difference between Marvel and GI Joes back in the day was a dollar (and the the MU figures had better articulation as well).
And only Star wars had that stipulation, which was to not break up the sculpt or keep the joint hidden.
So MU figures having limited articulation is the same reason that Retaliation figures had less articulation: new guy in charge was/is cheaping out to increase profits and increasing focus on higher price point figures to increase revenue.

>they seem to be doing pretty well
Irrelevant, because Hasbro won't go more than limited releases for fanboys only unless they can get retail going. They tried Direct to Consumers before, and while it did well, they obviously don't think its in their best interest.
>Is it the chain of Hasbro/Paramount Retaliation screw-ups that turned retailers off from stocking GI Joe figures?
Like i said, retail is pretty linear and they won't keep on ordering if their previous stock didn't sell. They don't care about the past, only the present and future.
If Hasbro can get another movie or maybe a TV show, they will carry stock.

>they knowingly make product in limited runs that will have more demand than supply.
Again, they're not going to hold a lot of stock for this. It requires a bigger investment. This is what TRU/BBTS were for with their past couple of years, to put up money to sell their stuff.
They do hold onto stock to sell after Comic Con, btw. So there's your chance to buy it online. It's not like last year they sold out immediately or even within a couple of days. If you couldn't get in there within the week (s?) that they were up, that's your own fault.

>Speak for yourself, I guess.
Why are you even here if you're not a fan?
It's no wonder you'er so ignorant of what Hasbro actually does.
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http://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-q2psh-6d21dc

New podcast interview with some of the guys from Bossfight as well as with Derryl DePriest from Hasbro.

DePriest states the following:

>Wave 3 of 50th Anniversary sold extremely well to the point of being sold out.

>Toys R Us wanted a fourth wave, but Hasbro decided not to because GI Joe is really only sold in the US because it is viewed globally as an American brand.

>Hasbro's focus is really only on properties like Star Wars and Marvel shit because they are marketable globally and in demand around the world, thus making Joe a niche product.

>He suggests that if they had done another 50th wave it would have been again with no vehicles and aimed only at adult collectors and it just wouldn't be able to be big the way the series had been in the past.

>Says mistakes were made in the past by going very big with the line on Rise of Cobra despite that the story wasn't good. And suggests Retaliation wasn't that marketable internationally even though it was better.

>Hasbro just didn't want to invest a ton of money in a niche adult collector product when the funds were more needed for Star Wars and Capeshit, which would return huge profits.

As for Bossfight:

>They have at least 8 waves already planned for Bucky O'Hare and want to do vehicles.

>They say you need to support the line if you want to see more characters and get spaceships.

>They're about to reveal Dead-eye Duck and are doing several variant figures to pad out each future wave. Larry Hama will also be writing new bios for the varient figures.
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>>6428020
>>Wave 3 of 50th Anniversary sold extremely well to the point of being sold out.
Thought so.
Fucking shit was in my local TRUs for all of two weeks and they were gone forever.

Thankfully i ordered shit beforehand from BBTS, but i was hoping to get extras from TRU.

>Hasbro just didn't want to invest a ton of money in a niche adult collector product when the funds were more needed for Star Wars and Capeshit, which would return huge profits.
=O
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>>6428027
Wave 3 had so many nice troop builders, it was insane, plus it had four new characters, three of which were females and then it had that great Heavy Duty.

That wave had everything you could want or need. I bought several cases of it from the Trade Center I worked it. They really should have done another wave. However Hasbro wants to wait until a new movie comes out, preferably tied into the Transformers films in order to market the figures around the world, because it's not really worth it to them.

Also they're too busy pursuing Disney brands, because those make them the most money.
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>>6428020

>>Toys R Us wanted a fourth wave, but Hasbro decided not to because GI Joe is really only sold in the US because it is viewed globally as an American brand.

Fucking (we're an I.P company) Hasbro and their shared universe.
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>>6427680
I actually have the first version of the guy on the far right and I really like him, despite his inferior number of joints compared to my joes.
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>>6428020
Number of other things I forgot-

DePriest stated:

>It became very expensive over the last few figures to produce toys in China, so Hasbro really needed to find ways to lower costs.

> This led Hasbro to reevaluate properties and decide to make Star Wars 5 poa, because Star Wars started at 5 poa. He said only adult collectors cared about high articulation and that they weren't the target audience, because kids will buy toys for years and grow to be the next generation of collectors.

>Things like Black Series were created so they could still sell to adults, but charge more for the articulation.

>DePriest said GI Joe however is all about high articulation, making things more difficult to keep prices low.

>This led to Joe having a shoestring budget since it had no global media presence and was only really sold in the US.

>Even though they could have done Wave 4 of 50th, they would not have been able to do vehicles and lots of accessories. Not mentioned in the podcast, but been rumored on Hisstank and elsewhere, that not enough people bought the vehicle sets to support the line, leading to them to be cut from Wave 3. Which would jive with what DePriest said about no vehicles.

>Depriest said they just wouldn't have been able to do the line justice if they could no longer do vehicles. So that was a factor in why there are no Joes for next year.
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>>6428505
Typo

>It became very expensive over the last few years to produce toys in China, so Hasbro really needed to find ways to lower costs.
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Dream concepts zombie lab kickstarter goes live tomorrow fellas
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I made some G.I. Joe wallpapers incase anyone is interested.
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>>6429237
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>>6428027
I was just reading about some of the people at Hisstank finding the 50th 3 packs at Ross. They said they never saw them show up at TRU, and would have bought them. Hasbro's site apparently sold out in a couple weeks. Now they start appearing at a closeout store. What happened?

>>6428505
> He said only adult collectors cared about high articulation and that they weren't the target audience
Did something change with kids? Distinctly remember being a kid around 1985 and not liking Star Wars figures because they were so stiff, and didn't move like people. This is before I knew about GI Joe. Then my parents got me '87 Crazy Legs and he was so much more fun. I took that dude everywhere. When me and my friend had backyard toy battles it was with Joes, not SW figures--and we had some of both lines.
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>>6430077
>They said they never saw them show up at TRU, and would have bought them. Hasbro's site apparently sold out in a couple weeks. Now they start appearing at a closeout store. What happened?
They had a bunch of unsold ones at my local TRU that suddenly disappeared in the past month. Not sure it's related.
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>>6430085
Damn, you had those still on the pegs? Around here it was just some Heated Battle packs, and maybe Social Clash.
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>>6430103
Yeah the only ones that disappeared in less than a month were the Zombie two pack, and they restocked them all at least once.
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>>6405980
Hey get that 1/6 trash outa this thread!! :P
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>>6429402
>the blue nice looking female dress all messed in blood
dropped

the first female, is the best for me of all, the police zombie it reminds me the RE2

a civilian clothes pack would be nice
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>>6430513
Should be easy enough to paint over

>>6429402
Can you pledge for more then one thing? And do you pay now? I have never used kickstarter
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>>6431227
>Can you pledge for more then one thing? And do you pay now? I have never used kickstarter

So long as it still works the way it did when I threw away my money for the Chicken Fried Toys cowboy figures (the last Kickstarter I funded):

You pledge an amount of money, generally by picking a package. But you can modify your pledge between the initial time you pledge and the end of the Kickstarter campaign to add or take away money.

At the end of the Kickstarter is when you pay.

You can't pledge for more than one thing initially, but you can add money so that when the Backer Kit survey goes out you can put the extra money you pledged towards whatever items you wanted outside of the initial pledge level you chose.
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Any of you neat dudes know the besst place to get water slide decals that'd fit onto a 1/12 scale figure? Mostly need the cobra insignia and the arishikage crest.
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>>6427510
Next time just make a fucking blog we're not here to follow all your fucking purchases.
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>>6431425
Hmm sounds like you received your articulated icons not storm shadow and not snake eyes.

Hit up pic related ebay seller. He can hook you up.
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Wow the Zombielab kickstarter is doing a lot better than the other 1:18 ones.
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>>6432751
At first I thought this was maybe spam or something from the zombie lab guys but then I went and checked and the fuckin thing is at 100K already.

But I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. I put in for the Dime Novel cowboys and I remember checking JC and a lot of people saying, among other reasons, they were waiting for this kickstarter instead.
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So what if I pledge money on the kickstarter then when it comes time to ship they just fuck me in it. Like $60 shipping or something. What could I even do about it
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>>6433332
I see the free shipping everywhere. I should have looked closer
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>>6433236
The ratio of accusations of spam to actual instances of spam on /toy/ are about 1000:1. There just aren't enough users to justify spamming this board.
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>>6411776
I love character designs that are based of real uniforms and gear.
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>>6433575
I really like these but compared to the Gun-Runner Kickstarter they are a tad pricy. for me. 2 figures for $45 and I woudl have been in. 4 for $80-90 - most def.
I know that this opinion is not going to be received well but I'm holding out for Marauder's Exos and Canines. - and maybe a few Nazis.
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>>6431645
(you)
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>>6427560
I'm too lazy to move the figures around the playsets, also my only camera is the tablet one and only takes awful pics
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>>6433575
For me it doesn't really matter, I just want something true to the character. To me it's like wanting a superhero to have their classic comic book outfit versus a film real world outfit that tries to pretend it's not a costume. If it looks good and reflects the character I'm all for it but at the end of the day the number 1 thing I want is accuracy to the source material.
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>>6434051
I could never decide if Mars Troopers were meant to be movie Cobra Troopers or Iron Grenadiers.
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>>6434063
Mars is run by Destro right? That would make them Iron Grenadiers.
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>>6434117
Correct, they are Mars, but in Rise of Cobra, Cobra Commander sorta takes over Mars from the inside, so that's the sketchy part for me, because all of Cobra could be called Mars in the movie. The colors work as Iron Grenadiers, but I also thought the look for them was more reminiscent of the Cobra Trooper. They work better as Iron Grenadiers anyway.
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>>6434051

Never blame the tools.
This is a tablet shot. It's not amazing but it's okay.
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>>6433332
When you pledge you are already paying shipping (on this KS at least).
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>>6433981
No I get it. They are a bit pricier than most kickstarter 1:18, which I guess is because they're shipping from HK.

I personally would've liked them to offer zombies with less or no paint apps and plastic bag packaging for customization for a lower price. I don't need full paint apps for something I want a crowd of.
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Bbi's newest HMWV is dirt cheap on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JCR23BU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_6oXCzbA7EK3SV
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>>6418524
Looks like a Japanese fuck bot. I'm in.
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I really hope IDW Revolution Roadblock comes out another way at some point.

Sucks that I'm going to be forever short a Renegade because I don't want to buy a hundred plus dollar con exclusive multipack.
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>>6435386
Thanks for the heads up, I ordered one from wal-mart for same price with free pickup. Wouldn't have known about it otherwise. Don't think I've ever seen BBI toys in person, the figures look similar to Unimax Bravo Team. Wonder how it compares to the Power Team Humvees.

Just picked up what might be the last retail Joe figures around here, the Duke/Tombstone two pack. It was the last one on the peg, and the very pack I wanted. It wasn't just luck; even though I checked to make sure the eyes weren't wonky in store, I missed a big splotch of blonde paint across Duke's mouth. It looked like a partial beard and milk moustache combo, and I'm sure without that someone would've bought it. Luckily a q-tip and some isopropyl (could have used acetone) removed it.
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>>6435978
For some reason I can never find a good Renegades Scarlett. I've bought four of them and each of them had really fucked upup paint on their face. One had an unpainted spot on her cheek that looked like a mole. One had fucked up excessive paint on her chin. Another had a giant line impression across her face. And the last had a circular dent in her cheek and a circular dent on her chin, like the face sat on a flat surface while the paint was wet.
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>>6435999
Yeah, the fully painted heads always are iffy to begin with, and IIRC the Renegades line was a period of not so great QC from the factories.
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>>6435999
It's a shame, too, because that's an above-average female head sculpt for the Joe line.
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>>6429402
Man, the designs for the ladies in this line are not for me. I was excited about the two women in suits, but one is a zombie and Keanna has torn pantyhose and a crop top, so that's no good for use outside of being attacked. Zoey looks like an adult white woman dressed in a schoolgirl outfit. The the first stretch goal, Olivia, is a bizarre design that I don't know what they were going for. The second stretch goal, Ashley, looks good from the waist up. I guess that I like Marian the best, despite her bare midriff.
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>>6434230
>Never blame the tools.

Indeed. Old stash house uses a samsung galaxy s4. Not my best pic ever, but a decent indoors shot.

That anon needs better lighting, the book case is too enclosed so it cuts iut the light. Then,learn your camera settings, white balance, iso, and your macros. The auto setting always gives poor results. The night shot is always grainy and higher chances for blur. Flash makes the plastic shine or look waxy, plus washes color out.
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>>6436036
It's a fantastic figure otherwise, but it's difficult to get a good one. The headsculpt looks really good on the new Ninja Force Scarlett. For some reason though even that figure has had a few instances show up with specs of unpainted areas on her face. Perhaps it's because it's a head that relies on a painted skin tone? I dunno. Some guy though tried to rip me off on ebay with one a few months back. But the photos he used when he sold it to me were of a different figure. He was selling multple of the figure but conveniently didn't have photos of the other figures.

Recently I picked up a new Ninja Force Scarlett for $60. I might swap the head back and fourth with the Renegades one.
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Does anyone know, can I cancel my pledge so I can re pledge for all in if I changed my mind
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>>6436618
You don't need to cancel your pledge, you just need to click 'manage your pledge' and choose another option.
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>>6436636
Oh awesome thank you
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>>6436618
Dude, don't cancel the Pledge. It has many uses, like thinning acrylic paints.
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Sorry for all of the questions but its a lot of money so I just want to be sure, is kickstarter have a guarantee or anything? Like when the stretch goals do unlock I will for sure get those figures as well? Or can the company back out of making those figures
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>>6436709
There is no guarantee you will get anything. You are pledging money to fund the company. They are promising rewards in exchange for your pledge. Kickstarter can't force them to give you the rewards after they distribute the money.

That's the scary part. The good news is that it's unlikely Boss Fight would be involved with this company if they were scammers, and Marauder is backing the campaign as well(in the sense that they pledged money).
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>>6436709
Technically the company could just take all your money and never deliver anything.
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>>6436766
>>6436769
Well I guess that would suck total ass since I'm a poorfag. But fuck it im going all in
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>>6436775
I would like to but I liked the prices of the Marauder figures a but better.
Heck Warriors of the Animal Kingdom was also cheaper and I got one of those.
I'll probably go for those when the Marauders Kickstarter starts.
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>>6435386
>14.29$
>48.55 shipping to your country
Fuck my life.
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>>6436314
>despite her bare midriff
That's the appeal for me. Oh well, different strokes for different people..
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>>6437236
Im with you on that brother

So generally are they going to release all of these at the same time? Or will they still do wave by wave even though people bought from different waves
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>>6409356
How does it look? If it looks amazing im going to do what u did
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>>6437300
Can't find any info on the wave matter. If they did explained it must have escaped me.
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>>6415800
When did you buy it? I sent that dude a message a long ass time ago and he never responded...
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>>6437312
I never dremmeled and did the head swaps, but I've heard people have. I just bought the Rogue One troopers and sold off my VC ones, because the sculpt was better and the figures more plentiful and cheap.

The RO trooper has a shiny gloss applied to the armor and the VC is more of a flat look, so if you did a swap the helmet would be shiny and the rest of the figure wouldn't.
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Not my pic, but this is what it will look like if you dremmel out the RO helmet and make it fit a VC trooper.
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>>6437815
This is the RO trooper that the same customizer modied, cutting the figure and making new joints to add articulation. He inserted metal wires where the joints are and sculpted over it with greenstuff.
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Mail haul

I just had Law & Order arrive today, along with 90's Snake Eyes, Ninja Force Scarlett, and Dr. Sidney Biggles-Jones.
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>>6437815
This looks amazing, im going to buy a vintage collection and a rouge one trooper sometime this month. Any tips on doing this? Going to use the rouge one body as customize testing or maybe cut off parts and make bloody stumps and gib parts.
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>>6439404
The RO trooper has a tiny GI Joe style neck peg, so the hole is tiny for the head. Whereas the VC one has a bowling ball size neck joint in comparison, so you'd have to hollow out a bit of the inside of the RO head to make it fit. You might even need some greenstuff to help make it fit. As I said though I never did any of this, I just know people have swapped the heads by dremmeling the head to fit.
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>>6429402
Really nice figures but I just filled out my Warriors of the Animal Kingdom backer-kit and those figures are so much more reasonably priced. I mean I get that they are more of a niche market but at the $20 level (plus 7 shipping) I haven't really seen anyone complain in the least
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>>6442050
You're saying overall they are $27 shipped? I mean these are $30 and free shipping so thats not much of a price different
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>>6413128
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I'd be happy with any kind of merch though
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>>6439269
Im Jelly of your NF Scarlett. Im still debating if i should just get the whole set or get her loose.

>>6435996
I think it's much better than PTE's. At 15 bucks, it's a steal. I got mine for 24.99 with free shipping(prime) and dont regret paying that much for it. Unimax also released an Abrams tank and it ended up at Ross for 15 bucks. That thing is huge. I snagged one up as soon as I saw it.
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>>6442340
>>these
THESE. exactly. two figures.
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>>6442904
I guess I don't see what you are trying to say. Do you only like 2 figures in the line?
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>>6442340
Not the Anon you are replying to but I backed the Animal Warriors KS and got 4 figures. Pale, Tiberius, and 2 blank figures for 75 bucks total. I paid $5.97 for shipping. So shipping was very reasonable.
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>>6443323
I got 2 figures for that price.
THAT's what I'm saying.
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>>6443605
Exactly. The prices on these figures are much better.
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>>6443847
>>6443605
I see what you guys are saying, but I really like the design and that they are hacks. Animal kingdom might be a better deal but its not the same thing
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>>6444090
>>>6443847
>>>6443605
>I see what you guys are saying, but I really like the design and that they are hacks. Animal kingdom might be a better deal but its not the same thing


Not the same thing but a lot more than Marauder Valks as well.
I get that people jumped on them, being a well-sculpted zombie line.
But it's about 5-10 bucks more pricey than I expected.
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>>6444090
Yeah I'm definitely not saying they are the same thing. I agree with you in regards to the design and being HACKS compatible. Im just saying the Animal Kingdom figures are a better deal. Im supporting the Zombie Lab KS too. Love zombies but I actually like their survivor figures better.
Man my wallet is gonna be hurting between Bossfight Hacks fantasy series 2, the Zombie Lab KS and Animal Kingdom KS.
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>>6444558
I know the feeling. I want the new bossfight stuff, some of the new acid rain and backed all in on zombie lab. Which makes each figure cheaper the more stretch goals that are unlocked
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>>6444344
They are in line with HACKS price, since you know..prices rise.
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>>6443605
who's the dude getting grabbed? I don't recognize him
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>>6429272
>>6429237
you're awesome dude.

So anyone here pick up the SDCC sets, to share their pictures?
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>>6444695
Steel Brigade Delta

>>6444732
>So anyone here pick up the SDCC sets, to share their pictures?
I second this.
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>>6444558
I feel like ZombieLab could've and should've been cheaper but they're trying to do a lot with one Kickstarter. That's the difference with Animal Kingdom.

Animal Kingdom is exploiting one mold so it SHOULD be cheaper. ZombieLab has a shit ton of different molds in their first few waves.

If they'd started off with just zombies, one or two body designs but lots of variants with different accessories it would've been easier to get a lower price. Then do the humans in a second Kickstarter, again with one or two molds.

I would've liked it better because I wouldn't have to pick and choose as much, right now unless I figure out a way to splurge for the all-in I'm just getting a few of the human figures.
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>>6444638
like the price creep from the HACKS skeletons.
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>>6445060
Gotta agree with this.
I would have felt better with one or two figures of both zombies and "heros" and later waves either with another funding drive based on interest or introduced if sales were good.
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I don't really collect Acid Rain(I have one and am indifferent) but this looks too badass for me to skip.
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>>6445186
It's a really meh figure.
The gauntlets it comes with, iwth the articulated fingers are a bit of a let down. They really can't grasp anything and would have been cooler to have seen some extra digit articulation like on the knuckles.
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>>6445186
There's a white version of him for pre order on bbts right now
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>>6445444
I really orange, plus the weathering feels like too much on the white IMO.
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>>6445656
That's cool just making sure you knew the options. I actually agree with the orange being better
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Had a TRU $20 gift card from a Groupon(paid $10) and the pickings were slim so I got this. Not bad for what I paid.

Any other cheap useful backdrops/playsets around lately?
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>>6446909
Can I see some more pictures of that? There isnt enough 1:18 playsets these days and my tru has that on sale
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>>6447348
How much is it on clearance?
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Are there any good chainsaws in this scale? I want to make an ash Williams custom. I know palisades has figures but they kind of suck
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>>6447358
I cant remember for sure anymore I just remember thinking its almost worth it. I think it was $25
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>>6447375
http://www.yojoe.com/action/09/benchpress.shtml
I'm not sure if the chainsaw is reused elsewhere.
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>>6447375
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>>6447443
This might work, and I could probably use the figure itself as another custom

>>6447451
Is this. Different version of the same character?
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>>6447535
No one is Bench-Press and the other is a Dreadnok named Buzzer.
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>>6447378
There was some sort or medieval fantasy stone/wood fort from Schleich, that i grabbed from TRU. It was 24.99 and this thing is huge and totally worth it. Im currently giving it a dark wash and painting some pieces on it to give it a grittier look. Planning on using it for my HACKS Fantasy series figures as an Orc Camp. Ill post some pics later.
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>>6447358
>>6447378
It rang up at $19.99 for me.
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>>6447594
That sounds awesome. I never think to look into that brand. Also I think that's the spawn ally playset in the background, I use that for 1:18 at times too

>>6447600
That could have been the price
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>>6447580
>Top one is Bench-Press
Dang phone
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Got a shipping notice from a Boss Fight for Vitruvian series 2(the fantasy wave). I only ordered wave 1, did anybody who ordered wave 2 get a notice?
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>>6451166

Wave 2 won't be till November at the earliest I reckon.
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Zombie lab and bossfight having all this great stuff at the same time im moving to a new place. What shit timing. I hate being a poorfag
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>>6452839
Speaking of ZombieLab they finally changed the five-pack to be your choice of figure(in the category you chose, with no repeats) so I finally went past the one figure pledge. I'm still not at the point where I'd go all-in, but I might spend $200 on the humans.

This fucking hobby.
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>>6455538
Yeah I get it depends what your taste is. I want the humans for customs and the zombies are just cool. It was hard to bite the all in bullet, but every unlock makes it sting less
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>>6454471

I guess there's a new thread
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