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SAS General: Phantom Koichi Edition

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SAS Official Site: http://www.medicos-e.net

Search term for SAS: 超像可動

SAS List: http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?type_id=23615&root=-1&type_strict=1&type_p=-1

SAS Reviews: blog.livedoor.jp/hacchaka/archives/cat_50046494.html

Jojo Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/CJPJP2Hi

SAS Sound Plate List: http://i.imgur.com/EfjMM0q.jpg

Where To Find: http://buyfags.moe/List_of_shops

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>>6324734

And to liven up things,

Preorder(s) now:
>Oda Nobunaga - Late May Release

JJBA Prototypes:

>Gyro Zeppeli - Painted
>Johnny Joestar
>Prosciutto

SAS BIG:

>SAS BIG Star Platinum
>SAS BIG Jotaro

RWBY Prototypes:

>Ruby Rose - Painted
>Weiss Schnee
>Blake Belladonna
>Yang Xiao Long

Drifters:

>Nasu no Yoichi - Painted

To be shown (no protoypes, just an announcement):

>Funny Valentine
>Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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First for Santa Gio
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>>6324747
>Prosciutto
nice.
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While reading Vento Aureo I never thought "I hope they make Prosciutto" but now that it's happening I want it so fucking bad
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>>6325070
I never thought they would do side characters ever.
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>>6325077
>Mr. Zeppeli WHEN
>Speedwagon WHEN
>Stroheim WHEN
>Hol Horse WHEN
>Oingo and Boingo WHEN
>Vanilla Ice WHEN
>Akira Otoishi WHEN
>Shigechi WHEN
>Doppio WHEN
>Foo Fighters WHEN
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>>6325077
Santana could be a good edition
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>>6325095
Yeah, he would look good next to my WF Joseph.
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>>6325077
I'd love to have Ghiaccio with White Album on as an SAS. Pesci with Beach Boy to go with Prosciutto would be great too.
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>>6324821
If they make a SAS of Santa Claus Giorno, I'd buy that in a blink of a second.
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I wonder if Prosciutto will include Grateful Dead, or if it'll be sold separately.
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>>6325244
Medicos could go the easy route and let people use the statue legend for that.
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>>6325244
I'm hoping we get more color variants of Vento Aureo on top of side characters
>magenta Bruno
>green Fugo
>black and green Narancia
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>>6324747
I'm wondering if Proscuitto falls under the same umbrella as Baoh, I.e. "Not sure if he'll sell well, so let's make him a WF exclusive".
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>>6325250

Who cares for Fugo? He was like the most useless VA character and with one of the worst stands. The only thing he did was save Narancia from the streets.
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What's a good proxy for YAJ?
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>>6325654

I like Proxy Rabbit.
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>>6325640
>Worst stands
>So overpowered he needed to be written out of the story
Also read Purple Haze Feedback. The character redeems himself, both in behavior and character quality.
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>>6325664
Thanks man, I'll try it out.
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>>6325242
I wouldn't even be surprised considering shit like VA Pol and Prosciutto exist

>>6325092
You forgot Lisa Lisa. 6taro would be nice too
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>>6325654
Zenmarket is my recommendation.
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I'm surprised Giorno never came with a pair of gloves, it seems like something that Medicos would have done.
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>>6326442
Probably because he came with so many accesories
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Anyone have the first jotaro S. A. S? I'm wondering how bad it is
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>>6326490
Just get the 1.5 release and don't bother with 1st.
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So with Wonfes about two and a half months away, it's about two months or maybe a little less that Medicos announces it's exclusives.

In recent years they have been releasing two figures per event (which would actually be way cooler had it not been for the fact this barely compensates for the lack of releases outside of that, but whatever) so we can assume we're getting two this time around.

Cast your bets now, what we gonna get?

I'm betting 1) Whitesnake in black/white and 2) Diavolo in an almost identical colour to his current colorway.

The devils advocate inside me wants to also say that instead of Diavolo it will be a new sculpt from one of the things we have seen already. So either Proscuitto, Ruby or Nash, or god forbid even Gyro.
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>>6326558
Green Diavolo
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>>6326587
And this White Snake
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>>6326558
Baoh recolor and P I N K Rohan 3.
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>>6326591
That's basically the retail release. At least the picture looks purple on my computer.
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>>6326558
I'm feeling a Stone Free recolor.
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>>6326725
Seems about time we see one considering almost every protagonist stand has an alt colorway except for Jolyne and Josuke(Jojolion). Hell, if I'm lucky. WF White Snake and WF Stone Free for Summer Wonfes.
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>>6326753
I'd prefer the red colorway.
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>>6326759
That's what I'm hoping for
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>>6326759
Any idea of soundplate? I'm very much hoping for red and pink but after WF Jolyne not even having "Yare Yare Dawa~" I can only hope Stone Free follows up.
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Wait what so Prosciutto is seriously getting an SAS? How him and not Nero?
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>>6326807
Not sure, everyone was suprised when he was shown off at Wonfes.
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>>6326807
I think Prosciutto is the most popular member of La Squadra. I suspect (read:hope) they'll make all of them, though.
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>>6326851
Nero is most popular, there was a poll if I remember clearly, he was the highest member of La Squadra di Esecuzione.
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>>6326898
Oh, really? That's interesting. I have no clue about Prosciutto being first, then.
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>>6326807
>mfw him and not Ghiacchio
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How is the Ajin? I've never bought any SAS but this guy is tempting.
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>>6327048
Positively sublime.
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>>6327048
Excellent, after getting acustomed to his lanky nature and the range of movement he offers because of that, it immediately propelled him to my top favorite figure in my collection. The ab crunch could be a little better but the tall scale he has and sculpt really makes him a standout and I do wish more anon's would pick him up if the price drops from his initial preorder.

And I guess if you want to be series accurate the two sets of hands he has are meant to compliment another IBM that Medicos planned fans to pick up since the bodies are the same but the antagonist IBM has 6 fingers and has the flat/open head which every IBM SAS has so it's a wierd duo purchase to complete a fight display.

If I have one knack is the neck peg seems so small and easy to snap that I'm generally very gentle when swapping the heads but overall he has withheld all my pose attempts and I seriously wish Medicos goes crazier with the mummy wrap look these guys have if another release will ever happen. Hell, I was shocked how well he works with PAK guns I had lying around and all I had to do was to softenthe trigger hand with warm water (which also made me wish he had one for both hands just for the chance to duel wield guns once I get another one of these guys.)
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>>6327059
And to get an idea how tall he is versus a regular schoolgirl figma from another anon
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>>6326558
Prosciutto is gonna be exclusive I bet.
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>>6327096
MEDICOS PLEASE
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>>6327061
Could you take a pic of him next to Joseph or another tall jojo SAS?
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>>6327100
Sure, front shot

I used Giorno as another comparison just to give an idea
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>>6327107
And back to back
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>won star platinum third on yaj for $40
Feels good man
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>>6327107
>>6327110
Not that anon but any chance of a shot next to PB Jonathan and Dio?
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We need to stop with the shitty header images.

Theres a Decent priced Kars and a decent priced Kira 1st on jungle now. They're B status but the B status Kars I got from jungle was better quality than anything I got on Mandy.
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>>6327164
Sorry for the lack of a ruler to make the comparison easier but IBM is easily the tallest even comparing the Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency SAS.
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>>6327175
Last back to back since I'm going to head out soon but you get the idea.
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>>6327168
What header images would you suggest instead?
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>>6327110
>>6327107
Thanks man.
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>>6327059
>>6327061
>>6327107
damn that thing is sexy. I tried the manga and didn't get super into it, but this is such a cool design.
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>>6327175
>>6327176
You're a legend. Cheers!
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>>6327131
is it $60 after fees?
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>tfw brazilianfag and figures bypass taxes
this is the best feeling
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>>6325250
>magenta Bruno
>green Bruno
>teal Bruno
>brown Bruno
>yellow Bruno
>black and white Bruno (like the average manga page)
tbqh I'd probably get them all
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>>6327310
desu i'd be way more interested in monochrome manga-panel releases than pretty much any colourway
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>>6327312
If they can nail the shading Araki uses then it would be a hell of a release. Kind of like the "anime painted" gunpla I've seen.
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>>6327330
That's so good I had to Google pics of the painter holding it so my brain could see it as IRL and not a picture.
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So I tried a thing today. Not really sure what to think of it. Part of me feels like it's a nice all in one display, the other part thinks it's a clusterfuck.
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>>6327424
where can i get that base?
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>>6327207
After fees and shipping its about $70, shipping was around $24 total
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>>6327330
This is awesome, I'd be so down for manga painted releases.
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>>6325092
D'Arby when?
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>>6327424
That looks pretty good, but just a little attention to detail could improve it. For instance, you gave Mista the wrong gun, and the direction SF is jumping could have his zippers facing back toward Buccellati.
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>>6327424
youve probably already asked this 100 times but w2c that base?
Fantastic setup btw
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How's she looking so far?
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>>6327131
>got SP3 from an anon on the BST for $20 shipped 2 years ago
Feels even better man
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>>6327803
Crazy Diamond's arm position is a little wierd here.

Star Platinum needs a little more adjustment
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>>6327269

That feel when your figure arrives w/o taxes and that black lady child is not yours.
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>>6327479
>>6327702
The base is made by Yellow Submarine, it's just called Multi Plate

>>6327565
Thanks for pointing that stuff out. I already knew about the gun thing, I had him reloading before, was too lazy to change the gun for now, lol
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>>6328173
I was really just joshing I had to look around for a bit for a second nitpick because I thought it would be douchey to post just to point out one thing with the gun which was supposed to be a joke. The reality is that it looks really nice.
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>>6327424
Looks neat but i think ypur display would ilook a lot better if abaccio and fugo was looking more forward intead of to the side
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>>6328381
No more space!
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>>6327269
That's good, what did you get?
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>>6328641
Giorno First and Part 5 Polnareff. I'm very excited, now I only need Bossu and SC to finish Part 5.
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Shitty edit, I know. This is what I've been planning for a JoJo display. I want some of your thoughts on the coloration of the display. So far the only Joestars I have is Giorno 2nd and Josuke 1st. Will have Giorno 2nd with the rest of Passione
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>>6328800
Not to dis your idea, but it will probably not look good because of how severely out of scale they are with eachother. Jonathan towers over all of them, Joseph is probably an inch shorter than Jonathan and the rest are manlets with varying heights.
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>>6328835
I am fully aware of this, but im not going to have them all together. I will probably have them posed with their stand and main villain of the part their in.
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>>6328800
you better pray Johnny ends up blue or your symmetry is ruined, and if you ever start to collect stands then Joseph and Jonathon will look out of place
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>>6328837
I know :(
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>>6328800
Giorno Second isn't the blue one?
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>>6328853
Yes it is. Giorno second is the newly released blue and blonde Gio. The pink is first and the dark blue and silver haired Gio is the Wonfes exclusive
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>>6328837
or even better if johnny turns out white. (2 greens, 2 blues, 2 pinks and 2 whites)
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>>6328800
>Pink, Blue, Green, White, Blue, Green, Blue, Pink
?
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>>6329031
I'm not going to have them posed in that order tho
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>>6328800
I just realized the father JoJos all have green releases and the kid JoJos all have pink releases.
Any one have a picture of them together?
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>>6329291
>Pink Gappy incoming
Yes
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>>6329291
>>6329308
>Pink Gappy
Oh yes.
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>>6329291
>>6329308
>>6329309
>green Johnny
I don't mind it much but there are a million other colors I'd rather see.
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>Wednesday
>found Za Warudo on amiami
>finally.jpeg
>have had standless DIO for nearly half a year
>no money
>"I get payed tomorrow, I'll pay for it then and place the order today"
>deposit check friday night
>wait for it to appear in my account
>Saturday
>"maybe tomorrow"
>Sunday
>"It's taking longer than usual..."
>Monday
>"okay what the fuck"
>email from amiami
>"your order has been cancelled"
MFW
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>>6329810
Thanks for letting me buy it
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Amiami has gotten some more used stock in. Blonde Shiza and Pink Josuke are both promising.
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>>6330007
>wanted to buy ACDC but no money available as I already spent everything that I do on toys this month
My wallet thanks whoever pulled that trigger
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>>6328173
Hopefully this is the same multi-plate that's on Ami cause I just ordered one...
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Just got Fugo and Bruno from Mandarake - 4500 JPY for 2 SASs were too much to ignore! Now the gang looks like this on my shelf - a long way to collect the whole Passione, but I like it all right!
The posing is just for lulz, yeah.

But now I have a problem for the future - what Sticky Fingers goes better with this Bruno? It'd make sense to choose by the colour of zippers, but both of them are GOLD as Bruno First's! Maybe there is someone who could pose their Bruno Second with both Fingers to compare and decide?
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>>6330409
I have the same one and I got mine off AmiAmi so you should be fine.
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>>6330517
http://myfigurecollection.net/picture/&sort=date&search=item%3A107713
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>>6330587
I'm waiting on medicos to put out a 3rd Bruno to pair with Sticky Fingers 2nd. Blono nor Bruno look good paired with the pink.
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>>6330792
Probably green.
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Recent hauls. After getting dicked by snipers which I can only attribute to bots or japs who camp the stores for 6 months I finally got this bitch. Also grabbed the iggy keychains which are cool. I got 5 more SAS's on route which were easily available to end this long ride. Though there are a couple elusives and exclusive accessories I am still somewhat interested in.
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>>6330835

More pics, price and details of Iggy Keychain. I hate Joseph of Part III (although I have Part II Joseph) and I really want Iggy.
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>>6330852
They were 1200 yen Each. Theres also a stone mask one at the same price I got a while ago. Looks like the same sculptor as the one that comes with Oldseph (far right). No articulation though and the 2nd form Iggy cannot balance on his own. If you really wanted one I would get the old style Iggy and the Statue Legend 2nd of the fool.
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>>6329971
Hope you enjoy it, if I can't have it I hope someone else can. Silver lining: I got to buy ACDC and a Silver Chariott
>>6330230
No problem my dude
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>>6330875
I don't like the look of the Iggy that comes with Oldseph, where did you buy those? Every Iggy key chain I've seen costs like $30+
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>>6330802
A man can dream...
Maybe with the Part 5 anime release.
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>>6330914
These were from Mandy and I've seen both on Jungle as well at the same price.

And today's your lucky day.
http://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1038751180&ref=list
http://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1038751076&ref=dos
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>>6330993
Thanks anon! I ended up buying this one, retarded Iggy is best Iggy
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>>6330914
>I don't like the look of Iggy that comes with Joseph
Why not?
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>>6331077
it's always facing down and it's face is not as well sculpted as the keychains IMO
I do like the alternate head but it makes the figure top heavy and fall over
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>>6330587
so the pink one is no go for Bruno Second, huh
thanks, anon, for the link - I keep forgetting about mfc
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Anyone has a picture of Kakyoin Second and Jotaro first together?
Jotaro and Kakyoin in the same colors is my shit.
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What other series do you want SAS to cover next time they branch out from JoJo?
>Pic very related.

>>6330835
I really shouldn't have dragged my feet with Stone Free.
My Jolyne looks pretty lonely with just Joseph and Gappy to keep her company.
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>>6331921
Shin Megami Tensei for Video Games.
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So I made a huge photoshoot of Giorno and I'm gonna post here my favorite pics.

This one is one of my favorites. My mother was holding a lighter while I took the pic.

Edit: I took a printscreen of the photo. The file size was over 4mb.
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Another printscreen of the photo. Quality may be lost in the process.
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This pic kinda reminds me of Alex from Clockwork Orange.
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This photo was funny to take. I took the pic and in a frame of seconds my cat jumped on the photo. It was so funny that I decided to keep it and post it here.
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>>6332452
>>6332456
>>6332457
You need to steady your hands, friendo! All of these are a bit blurry. Maybe invest in a cheap tripod?

While you're at it, download some rudimentary free photo editing program. Like the Gimp, if it's still around, or the freeware Photoshop CS2. You'll need it anyway if you're getting into toy photography, and this printscreen shit just isn't a good idea in the long run.
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And finally, but not least important, GioGio in his classic pose.
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>>6332462

Thanks mate. I'm with a severe cough and I'm coughing all the time here. Maybe it was it. And I still don't know how to adjust focus. But thanks for the tips, gonna look for this gimp. Indeed screenshots of pictures sucks.
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>>6332461
GER return to zero?
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>>6332470

What an horrible death;
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>>6331928
THIS.
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>>6332457
"Well welly well then, what's it gonna be then my little Droog-stars?" Araki, make this happen
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>>6331921
>>6331928
Diesel is the only acceptable answer.
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>thinking of getting first SAS figure
>call local weeb store
>ask if they carry SAS
>"we do, check our website to see our stock"
>check website
>see pic related
>fuck
Do any online retailers still carry him or will I have to bites za dusto?
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>>6333008
Just buy him from amiami, you'll save a bunch of money
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>>6333008
Never go local, my place always marks them up to $70-$90 for SAS and it's always the common releases that you can order for much cheaper shipped online.
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>>6330517
SP looks like he really wants to push that cripple off the shelf.
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So I'm trying to pay for an order on mandy (which I've done a hundred times now) and all of a sudden it's giving me these error messages when I use the exact same debit card info that I've been using for years (I even used the chrome auto fill). After deleting and retyping it all morning, no luck. Has anyone else had this problem?
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>>6333008
That shitty figure is not worth $90, I own multiple p3 Jotaros and I wouldn't recommend paying more than $40 at the most. Try and convince your mom to let you go for amiami's 3k Jotaro, show her the massive amount of money you'd be saving
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>>6333128
nevermind, chase just called me and said they were declining the transactions because mandarake looked "sketchy". I got everything taken care of
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>>6333008
Alright, so I looked him up on amiami,
This was the only one they had, but I saw others with a higher number than 12.
Does this mean anything about the quality or is it just when this specific run was released?
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>>6333211
It really has nothing to do with the figure, I'm not sure why that's there
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>>6333211
>>6333231
That's the release number. Jotaro 2nd was the 12th SAS released.
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Rai when?
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>>6333267
You know never, unless he turns out to be the main antagonist.
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THANKS TO OUR CORRUPT PRESIDENT MICHEL TEMER..

The dollar rose up. Now it's 3,40 or more. I'm gonna need to save more money to get my so desired WF GER.
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>>6333323
Amigo, don't fuck with me! Now I'll probably pay 3.6 on Santander...
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Just to clarify, which figure came with Awakened Giorno head? And which came with the Pre-BTD Kosaku head?
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>>6333427
WF King Crimson for Gio. WF Killer Queen for Kosaku
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>>6333428
Well fuck.

Thanks for clearing that up, though.
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>>6333429
Actually I made a mistake, WF Gold Experience Reqiuem for Giorno. Sorry about that, I was thinking about King Crimson for something else
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I'm looking at a figure on YAJ. its $35 buy it now but with all those extra fees it comes out to $66. Am I reading that right? I thought YAJ was cheap?
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>>6333476
Wouldn't it depend on Proxy's and what fees your getting hit with? I only resort to YAJ not for cheap deals but for rarer items and event exclusive stuff that Mandy never stocks. Proxy fees add up and may go over your intended budget if you're not careful.
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Is a sealed WF Killer Queen without the Kosaku head and hand worth $85?
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>>6333495
Maybe if it was shipped but if that's the standing price then no, not really.
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>>6333499
That's including shipping, yes.
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>>6333503
Personally that's pushing it seeing how desirable the Kosaku head can be for some and how Mandy decided to price both the head and hand but considering Killer Queen's general popularity and how the colorway was made with the new eyes, I would see some justification. On-hand it is a really nice paintjob
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>>6333476
>I thought YAJ was cheap?
It's not like YAJ is just one shop with cheap prices. That's not how it works.

And yes, the proxy/forwarder fees can add up. So does the domestic shipping.
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>>6333484
>>6333517
I'm just not going to bother then. In other news I got BBC Jotaro 1.5 for a great price off Mandarake. I think the black looks better than the blue. That green one is abhorrent.
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>>6333476
That's not too bad. Sometimes you can get fairly lucky, My SP only totaled about $20 in total costs for shipping from JP to the US with everything else added. If it's a good deal, I would say just jump on it. If you're worried about saving cash then use a cheaper shipping than EMS, etc.
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>>6333067
kek
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>>6333476
What proxy are you using?
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>>6333592
$66 for Pt 3 Dio is not a good deal. I'm not paying that.

>>6333619
None. I'm not bothering with YAJ for now.
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>>6333622
oh it was just P3 DIO? nevermind then, yeah i'd look elsewhere then
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>>6330517
>>6333067
>>6333598
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>>6333622
You're in luck. There's a DIO on Mandy for 3k. Better snag it quick before someone else gets it.
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Gyro will be limited release?
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>generic lifeless yelling face
REEEEEEeee fuck you Medicos.
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>>6334039
called it tbqfh
>there's no way they won't indlue a smile and a NYOHOHO face
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So Gyro is possibly a new Baoh and comes with a stupid yelling face?

Welp.
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>>6334019
looks like it >>>/a/157390412
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>>6334047
haha rip me. literally one of the only four figures i wanted out of this line is now nigh-unobtainable. looks like i have no reason to stay involved in this line
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What the fuck, selling Gyro as a convention exclusive is bullshit.
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>>6334047
>>6334019
And not even a really good colorway. Now I'm really unsure on doing the whole Mandarake WF stalk period since that's easily 8-9k there for god knows how long.
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So what, is only RWBY trash gonna be sold normally after Drifters?
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>>6334019
What the fuck.
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I bet Johnny and Valentine along with D4C are going to be convention exclusive too.
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>>6334058
Then the people who said Valentine 2019 might just be right.
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>>6334019
I legitimately hope they go bankrupt for pretending that there is no audience outside Japan who buys these figures. I own every single figure in the line and I refuse to support event exclusive figures.

Paint variants are one thing but fuck this shit.
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>>6334039
I was hoping they wouldn't be dumb enough to do this. I'm almost certain a grinning face will come with a WF version then, but that would be even more limited.

Medicos can fuck off.
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>>6334039
>>6334047
Jesus christ fuck this line and fuck medicos, it needs to be aborted and let anyone else take the license
This is the kind of awful shit people joked about except its actually a reality, how the fuck do medicos even expect to make money with this retarded exclusive shit? Why not just let the line die if they're not willing to commit to it
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>>6334039
I fucking called it yet I'm so upset that I was right
>WF Gyro when?
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>>6334039
It doesn't even look angry, it looks like he's about to give someone a blowjob.
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>>6334051
Is he a con exclusive, or just a limited release? I guess they could go hand in hand.
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At least you guys can always enjoy the RWBY figures. :^)
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>>6334074
I hope they mass produce those and then get fucked because of it.
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>>6334063
I doubt most japs enjoy having to go to a convention just to buy a figure or be stuck having to buy it second hand, even if its far more accessible to them its just bullshit all around

Exclusives are supposed to be recolors and small additions, where do they get off making entirely new figures and only selling it at cons like they're some indie garage kit artists, there's no way that's profitable or in anyone's best interest
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>>6334019
Normally I'd say fuck this line and bail on the whole thing but Gyro has been my favorite character in all of Jojo for years now. Guess I'd better save my money and spend a fortune on him while grumbling about how much I hate medicos
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>>6334072
WF exclusives are limited. They are always limited in number. Usually the numbers are high enough that people who attend WF have no issue getting them but that won't stop the aftermarket from charging a ton.
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>>6334072
It says Limited Figure to be sold at 2017 Summer WF
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>>6334039
>>6334019
what I'll never understand is why medicos decided to give the middle finger to Jojo after having built their entire company on that license. it's literally what they're known for, if they only had RWBY, Tokyo Fool, and their other licences nobody would give a fuck about them
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>>6334019
>JoJo becoming popular worldwide, has more exposure than it ever has
>stock of old figures dries up almost overnight
>continues to sell well justifying all kinds of re-releases
>BETTER MAKE ALL THE NEW STUFF INTO LIMITED JAPANESE CONVENTION EXCLUSIVES YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON TO BUY
Is there a more anti-capitalist company than Medicos?
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You know, normally I'd refrain from giving Medicos bad ideas, but that ship has clearly sailed.

WonFes exclusive Gyro head to come with WonFes exclusive Johnny. Calling it now.
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>every new release from now on will be Summer and Winter Wonfes only releases with actual small production numbers
>recolors releases are now being redone and require you to find a random location in the world to buy it from a vendor for 10k a piece

It's like someone is shitposting ideas and Medicos takes it seriously.
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>>6334085
This.
If they re-released half their part 4 shit they'd make millions. I understand that SBR isn't that popular with the chinks but it's by far the fan favorite part among the western audience (which is bigger than ever at this point in time), making Gyro a standard release would be very profitable but apparently medicos hates money
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>view image
>generic yelling head
>"dammit I called this shit"
>steel ball effect piece
>"maybe there's hope after all"
>proceed to read caption
>Gyro is a convention exclusive
MFW
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Fuck off Medicos, first I thought I needed to save money to buy Baoh but now to get Gyro? what a terrible company
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>>6334102
Did anyone expect Medicos to give his good expressions on a 1st release? Now a WF only sculpt is like taking a knife and twisting it.
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>>6334090
>Summer WF
>Part 3 Jotaro 4 now with time stop face
>exclusive Johnny and Gyro horses
>starting price 49k yen
>Trish second along with Spice Girl second
>giant series SP gets a starting price of 20k yen
>quality is comparable to PAK
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>>6334105
Funny you mention PAK because Square-Enix is moving the line to a more sensible 1/12 scale with Bring Arts. Plus we're getting 2B and Kaine from Nier. So apparently we shifted realities into some kind of bizarro world where Medicos just loses their fucking minds and Square-Enix suddenly starts doing shit that makes sense.
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>>6334108
>2B and Kaine
What a time to be alive...
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>>6334090
>Valentine comes in a two pack with D4C
>Price is 30K
>No Dojayn face
>Only accessories are Valentine's pistol and a napkin
>D4C doesn't even have the fucking bunny ears head, only aged
>Still comes with a Dojaaa~n speech bubble despite not having the face
>Limited to only 1000 pieces

I could go on with this shit
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>"Geez, I can't believe we found a version of Earth where medicos gave Gyro is a full release, completed their Stone Ocean line, and re-released Okuyasu, Kira and KQ 2nd!"
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Welp I am done.
I kind of soft gave up on the line after they aborted the part 6 line-up and because of how outdated, unfun, and badly put together they felt next to other lines but I still held out hope.
I was almost pulled back in by Baoh until they announced it was a con exclusive.
Now we have a Gyro who looks about as boring as a wall who will cost a shit ton more than other better figures within a few weeks.
I swear it takes talent to keep me from wanting to buy a figure of my favorite manga character.
>>6334109
Yeah it is pretty badass.
I am hoping for an Emil eventually.
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>>6334108
If that 2b isn't a mushy wax faced mess, I'm getting her.
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>>6334119
They haven't had the wax face issue in quite a while so no worries. Bring Arts Sora is the first in the new line so we'll see how he turns out as an indicator.

>>6334118
I hope they go deep into the Nier universe. I'm sure if sales are really good they will make a bunch.
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>>6334019
>>6334039

I'm done with this shit. I'm so fucking done. What the fuck is wrong with these guys? Christ that alt face. He literally looks like he's yawning and with those accessories I don't blame him. Shit on me.
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>>6334125
I doubt characters from the original Nier will sell very well but Automa probably will so I am hoping for an A2 and 9S at least.
I hope we do get at least a few more outliers from the Drakengard/Nier universe after Kainé.
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Well, it was nice knowing you guys
If I check these threads again to find out RWBY are standard releases I'll scream
I want someone to interview a Medicos rep and ask:
>"What the fuck are you guys doing?"
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>>6334137
Do they even have awareness for the western toy collecting community? Everything seems geared on Japanese interest but then RWBY is like a curveball because I only hear about the fans here versus the East.
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>>6334137
On the bright side I look forward to the fucktards who enjoy RWBY getting QC error riddled garbage.
Medicos can barely handle arms, let alone giant anime weapons from the how to draw manga handbook.
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I'm honestly curious if they'll even bother to continue on with Part 8.
Fuck them.
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>>6334125
>They haven't had the wax face issue in quite a while so no worries
Ah good. The one and only PAK I got was Raiden, and while I liked him, his face was very waxy to me.

And I found out I liked around 6-inch ish better as a scale for figures.
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Welp
Looks like im getting the RAH gyro
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M-maybe we're getting a standard release with a nyohoho f-face as ful-hold me anons I want out-of this ride
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>>6334019
no this cannot be fucking real
I wasn't even gonna buy him anyways but fuck
If Valentines and D4C turn out to be exclusives aswell I'll fucking cry
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Its all over my friends
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>>6334019
This is it friends, I'm ready to die now. Farewell.
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>>6334019
>>6334039
Can we get that anon who emailed them about FF to ask them what the fuck they are doing?
Seriously I come back after after a few months to this shit.
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Lol not even Medicos know what they are doing

>http://www.medicos-e.net/newsdetail/【雑誌掲載情報】ワンダーフェスティバル2017summer、/

They posted the leaked Ultra Jump pages like some third rate Kotaku website
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>>6334019
I tried to tell you all, I tried to prepare you, but you didn't fucking listen to me.

Now here we are.
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>>6334090
>Medicos eventually just makes unpainted resin kits and sells them at WF
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>>6334081
Ah, I shoulda read the website's description.
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I won't support this line anymore
Everything I buy from now on will exclusively be second hand or on sale
Fuck this shit
They need a third nuke
I'm so salty holy fuck
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Geez... Luck me, just finished my favorite part, 2, and was happy to get part 7 and now this news. Screw it, ill try to get and then never will buy something from them again.
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Btw when is the summer wf?
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I feel like I deserve this for getting so excited. Fuck, how could God do this to me?
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>>6334321
http://eventr.jp/en/events/wonder-festival-summer/

>>6334322
Mostly Medicos making really, really odd decisions as of late. Not even sure how the Japanese fanbase is taking news like this even with the ability to actually go to Wonfes in person.
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At this rate they probably won't bat an eye at trying to make Diego.

Please don't quote me on this later
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>>6334229
Thinking about that. Maybe they will do this with him and mantain Johnny and Valentine as normal? Because they are afraid of him shelf-warming.
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>>6334382
At this point we have to see. Actually, doesn't Bandai treat certain SHF mass releases with a limited amount for preorder? I always see the rush for orders to open in AmiAmi when drops occur.
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>>6334019
>>6334039
>hat is non-removeable
>No fucking trademark smiling face
>No ball breaker, teddy bear, gag-hands, SCAN: accessories are 1 or 2 balls and a decent effect part
>Alt face looks especially terrible and barely conveys any emotion
>Wonfes exclusive so probably 8k base price that will only skyrocket in the aftermarket
How did they fuck him up so bad? Are medicos going under that hard?
If they are why would they do fucking prosciutto instead of people worth a shit??
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I'll be honest, I didn't expect TOO much elese from Gyro, aside from the Nyo-Ho face, MAYBE Ball-breaker and his effect parts, but apparently not even that happened.

Man, this fucking sucks. Medicos is fucking braindead.
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>>6334403
>expecting this will be packed on the 1st release

A Wonfes exclusive sculpt as his first release is shitty but they will hold back any interesting expression for a future release that may or may not be a bitch to buy at a decent price.

Also don't forget that saddle he posed with in that one artwork that Medicos somehow acknowledges but not his stand as a non-posable acessory.
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>>6334382
>Gyro would shelfwarm more than Johnny and Valentine
What fucking world do you live in
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>>6334426
No, you fool. If anything the exclusive Wonfes variant would be the one with the extra things. They didn't show a 3rd head like they did with Joseph, so a smiling face is just off the table entirely. This isn't his first release, this is his ONLY release like Baoh.
They just fucked up.
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>>6334435
Actually I was thinking it would be a funny first to see a "WF Gyro 2nd" and shove the head in there. I didn't expect Proscuiutto at all and having Baoh as the first WF only figure means future Medicos will probably be nothing but really painful suprises from now on.

Get ready for exclusive event releases and exclusive event recolors with desireable heads and acessories for nutty prices.
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May as well post my false hopes now

>Realistic: Colored Johnny, Gray prototype D4C and Valentine, maybe Diego announcement if we're lucky, possibly colored Prosciutto (although may not have SAS of Grateful Dead, might just have to pull an Iggy and get it like you would The Fool), Valkyrie / Slow Dancer / and Silver Bullet if Diego happens probably just won't happen

Non-Realistic: Gyro being WonFes Exclusive was only a first "test" wave and will be mass-produced later, Johnny at least comes with Acts 1-3 or 1&2 of Tusk, Tusk Act 3 & 4 and Ball Breaker come in one pack ala Echoes ACT 2 & 3, Johnny has some decent accessories, Valentine comes with more than his Gun and Napkin, if he gets a second, it may even come with a Dojyaa~n face and American flag cloth

Probably REALLY pushing it, but god damn it I want to have hope.
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Do you guys think we'll get Diego or HP at some point?
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>>6334456
>HP
We didn't even get Foo Fighters. Hot Pants isn't happening.
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>>6334456
Only one Diego is being produced and it will only be given to the winner of a cross-country horse race organised by medicos.
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>>6334466
Good one.
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>>6334448
I love everything you just said anon, let's keep what hope we have alive while we can
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>>6334019
This is the end isn't it? I'm really fucking upset. If Gyro is going exclusive I don't see how literally any other character is getting a regular release.
Why the fuck would they do this? Is SBR so fucking unmarketable in Moonland? Holy shit.
How are they gonna handle Prosciutto?
>Jojolion never
No reason to live desu senpai.
>>6334456
Unless they make literally 5 Diego and 2 HP I don't see it happening.
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>>6334481
Medicos is tanking, they are at the point they can't affford to release a figure without the guarantee every single one will sell.
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>>6334481
I've heard that Japan doesn't like SBR as much but holy shit they must absolutely resent it if this is the treatment it gets
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>>6334019

Can we email medicos and explain why we think this is a bad idea? Would they read them?
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>>6334521
Some anon did email them ages ago if I remember correctly and apparently they responded
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>>6334521
They have a twitter but it's in Jap.
@medicos_et
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>>6334521
I was the autist who emailed them about FF a few months ago.
They responded me saying they would consider.
If you do email them let me know, I'll send one too. Go to their website and click the contact page.
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>>6334481
Oh fuck what if Prosciutto is a lottery figure. I could totally see them doing that.
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S-sayonara, Gyro
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>>6334430
Apparently the same one where Medicos does that fucked up!
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Can you all calm the fuck down?
Limited edition WF version will come with speech plate.
There will also be a regular release without the speech plate.
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>>6334570
>which means there will also be a non-limited edition
C I T A T I O N
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>>6334570
Anon don't mess with me... P-pls...
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>>6334570
pleaseberightpleaseberightpleaseberight
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>>6334570
Where though? We've only seen two pictures
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>>6334570
This better be fucking true.
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I know google translate isn't the most reliable source but it doesn't specifically say that Gyro will be an exclusive. it more or less says "check out our pannel info for more news regarding the WF exclusive figures" (or at least that's what I think they're trying to say). The fact that this message was posted next to Gyro is concerning but let's not cut our losses just yet
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it specifically says "limited edition", implying there will be a standard edition
>there's still hope
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>>6334642
there isn't.
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>>6334642
>Standard edition is ugly ass EOH colors

Just you watch.
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>>6334466
can you imagine that? I mean that for real
Can you -actually- imagine how ridicolous that shit would be?
Weebs from all around the world, many of which liley never rode a horse, trying to march their fucking way across the US. We'd have a whole roster of different characters.
It'd be hilarious.
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>>6334039
They actually did it

The fucking bastards
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What happened to the saddle Gyro had at Winter Wonderfest?
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>>6334681
I honestly hope they scrapped it because it's a worthless piece of shit
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>>6334039
He looks so demotivated.
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>>6334683
>It's included with a WF exclusive Valkyrie
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>>6334681
It's coming.
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I guess Stone Free is going to be the Swarvoski figure at Summer Wonderfest too.

http://myfigurecollection.net/item/580046
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>>6334570
Okay that would be cool but we're still stuck with a cocksucking "angry" face instead of a befitting nyoho.
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>>6334744
Let it go so Medicos will put that head on some other WF release in the SBR line.
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>>6334039
>that face

回転を信じろ!回転は無限の力だそれを信じる
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>>6334570
Seeing as how active Siona is on MFC I feel trustworthy but I'm probably still gonna be prepared for the worst
>>
Has anyone translated what Gyro's speech plate says?
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>>6334842
"Eat shit, asshole! Fall off your horse!"
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>>6334814
>>6334843
I guess I like the head now.
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>>6334521
maybe they would take that in count if they receive a lot of messages on the topic.
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>>6334842
>>6334814
C'mon, son.
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>>6334570
Lol, stupid backwards logic. Medicos call all of their WF exclusives "Limited Edition" because that's exactly what they are. That doesn't automatically mean there's going to be a regular version as well.

The text just read "This limited edition figure will have a speech plate" because it will, that's all.

But by all means, if you want to set yourself up for disappointment, go ahead.

Meanwhile I'm just going to go to WF to scalp the shit out of these to desperate western fans on eBay. I mean shit, if people were paying 200 dollars for Baoh, I can only imagine how much Gyro will go for.
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>>6334608
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Just a heads up im looking to sell my RAH Kira
Asking $150 shipped (open to offers)
Near mint condition with all accessories and box.
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>>6334894
Why is Stone Free there?
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>>6334642
But Baoh was stated limited edition too.
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>>6334924
>>6334735
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>>6334924
Swarovski ver
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>>6334622
You're translating their tweet and not their official message on their page here >>6334047 and >>6334253 .

Also this anon is correct. >>6334891
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The world first up on ami for 5k
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>>6334999
thanks anon
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Is Medicos just completely unaware of the JoJo market in America?

That's the only way I can imagine them thinking making Gyro wonfes exclusive. The only people happy about this are scalping faggots like >>6334891. Everyone else is either indifferent or pissed off to shit.

I'm pretty much done with this line. I'll only buy SAS's used. This was the only thing they could have done to make me ditch them and they did it. I'm not even that upset about a lack of Nyo-Ho face.

They truely fucked up.
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>>6335045
>Is Medicos just completely unaware of the JoJo market in America?
No, they just don't care. Fuck off with that atypical American entitlement. You aren't their target demographic and they don't give a shit about you.
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>>6335072
That's bad for business though, they're completely ignoring a potential market.
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>>6335072
>JoJo fans aren't their target demographic
???????????
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I can't imagine the shit their doing is well-recieved by the Japanese

R-Right?
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>>6335072
>Fuck off with that atypical American entitlement.
>atypical

kek, look at you trying to sound smart.
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>>6335083
Japan doesn't give a shit about Part 7 and it's not like driving to Wonfes is a huge burden for the few nips who like it.
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>>6335072
Eat trash nip scalper.
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>>6334546
I'm writing an email to them as we speak. We need medicos to see that there is a market in America and Americans want their Gyros.
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>>6335115
>We need medicos to see that there is a market in America and Americans want their Gyros
You already do.
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>>6335075
>>6335077
Just because a market exists doesn't mean it's worth pursuing. Medicos may just want to keep their business domestic. You act like just because you're a fan you should automatically be entitled the opportunity to easily access their stuff. Life doesn't always work that way.
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>>6335124
But they are a company that makes figures. I don't want to say everything NEEDS to be easily accesible but it just seems stupid that they aren't realising frequently anymore, they stopped doing reissues, no recolors and then they just switch to releasing figures in limited form at cons...

How can they possibly stay afloat like this. It isn't like they're asking that much more at cons for a figure then they would at retail so how are they supposed to make money?

Has JoJo stopped being popular in Japan or something? Are they completely ignorant of animefags (Of who I'm sure there are japanese people too)? It just blows my mind.

The only way I see this as a kinda logical step is if they make Gyro 1st wonfes exclusive and are already planning a Gyro 2nd for retail.
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>>6335154
>they stopped doing reissues, no recolors and then they just switch to releasing figures in limited form at cons
Cutting down releases is a different ballgame to choosing which countries to export to, which point are you trying to emphasise here?

>How can they possibly stay afloat like this. It isn't like they're asking that much more at cons for a figure then they would at retail so how are they supposed to make money?
I would guess they are indeed suffering financially, which is why they are scaling back operations. Honestly if you're in a financial pinch what they are doing is best for them, creating smaller runs of guaranteed sales while they stabilise themselves. Hell, exporting to other countries is the last thing they should think of doing if they are in the red. There are costs involved in doing so.

>Has JoJo stopped being popular in Japan or something?
No, but rising figure costs have been causing a decline in the number of collectors

>Are they completely ignorant of animefags
"Animefags", ie new fans created through the anime is by and large a foreign thing. If you're already in Japan you are well aware of Jojo and already like it or not. The anime didn't domestically create many new fans. If anything it reignited the passion in dormant fans, but that's about it.

>The only way I see this as a kinda logical step is if they make Gyro 1st wonfes exclusive and are already planning a Gyro 2nd for retail.
Don't hold your breath
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What if Gyro with an exclusive soundplate means that [spoiler]All future Wonderfest figures are just regular figures with a special soundplate[/spoiler]
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>>6335176
Then you can expect this thread x100
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>>6335176
Fuck I wish. That would be gucci as fuck.
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>>6335163
Then I don't know why they are bothering with the new RWBY IP. You'd think they'd work on what their known for unless RWBY really is that big there.
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>>6335163
>Cutting down releases is a different ballgame to choosing which countries to export to, which point are you trying to emphasise here?
I never meant exporting they (as far as I know) never did that anyways. What I meant was that they aren't releasing shit. I get playing it safe but creating molds and shit costs money too so I don't get why they would just use these once and then quit.

>Honestly if you're in a financial pinch what they are doing is best for them, creating smaller runs of guaranteed sales while they stabilise themselves.
I get your points about stability but you can release retail waves of smaller magnitude so you pretty much fill the preorders with little extra stock. Just looking at the second hand market could be a decent indication as to which figures would serve a (smaller) reissue. Making new molds seems to be opposed to the point you're trying to make of cutting costs.

I mean how much money will they realisticly make at wonfes with only 3k figures if we keep in mind the costs of producing these figures and the stand itself (which I assume will cost them a decent amount too). It is the only release since that drifters dude so how many people do they employ like 4? I just don't get how a company could make enough money to stay afloat.

>Hell, exporting to other countries is the last thing they should think of doing if they are in the red. There are costs involved in doing so.
Again as far as I know they never exported themselves so this is irrelevant.

I just feel that they are out of touch with the market for their figures. That's it. Importing is easy but it just feels retared that they play scalpers in the hand by creating figures that have the potential to sell well and just release them in absuredly limited amounts on which scalper will make most of the profit.
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The best thing to do if Gyro really is perminantly a wonfes exclusive is to email medicos about our displeasure and boycott their products. If we really aren't a big enough market priority for them even if we stop buying their products entirely, then really did they made the right move making Gyro exclusive.
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>>6335183
>he doesn't know RWBY was huge in Japan
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>>6335190
>email Medicos
>a market you don't care about is boycotting your products!
>Medicos shrugs
>Winter Wonfes 2018 Johnny Joester
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>>6335201
Pic related
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I wanna say that Medicos is just shifting focus from SAS to their other items seeing how it takes a while for something SAS related to go up, but then you have them showing off new stuff at Wonfes, so it doesn't really make sense
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>>6335124
>Medicos may just want to keep their business domestic
>A business wanting to make less money
You sure got us on the ropes, Anon
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You guys are forgetting that if Gyro sell well we will have future regular Gyros at a good price and possible with more acessories. So buy all the Gyros you can.
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>>6335241
anon you're implying like it won't sell it all. You think they had any Baoh's they didn't sell? I would assume not since it is a con exclusive. Exclusives always sell out at cons
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>>6335241
Medicos get out
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>>6335231
Exporting require a lot of initial overheads, oranisation and red tape they have to deal with before they can even think about turning in a profit. This isn't like selling on eBay.

>>6335241
Just like Baoh, right?
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>>6335251
Pretty sure Medicos itself doesn't personally export anything.
Tht is the import store's job.
>>6335201
What is it with Japan's pleb taste in cartoons anyway?
It's like they hate anything made with any kind of effort put into it.
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>>6335266
Right, and they need to set up deals with overseas distributors to make that happen.
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>>6335271
That's what import sites do.
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Sup SAS, I just bought a Golden Experience SAS what do you think of my posing?
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>>6335291
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>>6335293
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>>6335297
Horrifying.
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>>6335297
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>>6335297
>>6335301
>Autistic screeching
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At least he'll be available sometime later
A lot wonfest exclusives are available in second hand places, I guess the people that really want him will go for it
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>>6335288
Then ask them why they aren't importing SAS?

Import sites (like BBTS) are a different case compared to actual overseas distribution (like Bluefin) which Medicos would actually have input in.
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>>6335308
>A lot wonfest exclusives are available in second hand places, I guess the people that really want him will go for it

>one of the most popular characters the west could possibly want will be available in the future

yeah just like how Baoh is but triple his original price
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>>6335291
>>6335293
>>6335297
>>6335301
are you in a library?
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>>6335367
What? Baoh was 4k? There's one in amiami sitting at 12k since last week I thing
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>>6335436
Mandarake*sorry
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This three is comedy gold.

>why don't they sell to murrika, they are losing out on major profit!!

Total up the number of people that are a) Jojo fans b) have actually read SBR and aren't just "IT WAS ME DIO LOL" flapping animeonly retards and c) would actually be interested in paying the ¥7000 for a Gyro toy, and you probably have less than the 3000 they are guaranteed to sell at WonFes.

While the American market is an untapped potential, that doesn't change that it would account for a measly percent of the sales they can make domestically. I'd even wager less than 5%. And for that 5% they have to endure the headache of negotiating and arranging exports, distribution, customs and all that crap. Just doesn't sound worth it.

Who am I kidding, the people in this thread don't give a shit whether or not it's feasible or profitable, they are just throwing a hissy fit they can't get their Gyro toy.
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>>6335454
So does Medicos pay you in WonFes exclusives?
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>>6335493
The tears in this thread are payment enough.
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>>6335454
Senpai why are flipping out over America and shit?
The matter is making Gyro exclusive as a whole, which simply seems unreasonable, considering he is definitely more marketable than a lot of other characters they've done in the past.
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>>6335454
You are a complete retard. Nobody is making the point they should export to america or europe or wherever the fuck. The point people are making is that by making this shit exclusive they fuck over people that buy the shit in online stores like amiami which send them from japan themselves. Heck their are probably enough faggots that can't get to wonfes that would love to get their hands on gyro for a normal price in great old Japan themselves.

By making these figures exclusive and extremely limited they just give scalpers the oppertunity to make money of their backs while they themselves see their company shrink and shrink because... guess what? A company needs to have product in order to keep making money. Unless they plan to downsize their whole operation they should atleast try to create product even if they are fucking recolors which are relativly cheap compared to new figures because the molds already exist.

The only retail figure they've released in the last months is the drifters dude. Compare this to a few years ago it just seems completely impossible to keep the company alive.

The guaranteed sales shit that keeps being brought up also sounds completely stupid. If you are afraid you can't sell everything make less. Look at Nintendo they do that shit all the time. After their initial wave they gauge sales and reactions and if needed reissue figures people want. They are making fractions of the sales they did years ago and the "shrunken collecters market" means they should go the same route and create smaller runs and go back to reissues which are even cheaper because they already have all the shit they need to create the figures. Part 4 launches and they don't reissue the characters? Either these nips are completely ignorant on the market and influences on sales or they are just plain old incompetent.
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>>6335367
Baoh is not even twice his original price, medicos' move was still terrible, but don't exaggerate.
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>>6335495
Okay. You can fuck off now.
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>>6335567
This entire post.
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RuValentine's Steel Ball Race - Start Your Horses (and may the best Stand User wins!)
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>>6335942

I posted this shit to check we were saging. We were.

New thread for the sinking ship; >>6335948

Arriba, mis amigos!
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>>6335953
We didn't need a new thread this soon.
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Less than a 100 SR's in black 2...
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>>6337061
Wow wrong fucking thread sorry guys.
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