Scale Model General

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Well, this is it. I'm set up for a half a year worth of supplies and I shouldn't buy more stuff anyway for my own good.
I'm gonna start the t-90ms but still haven't decided how to paint and weather it.
>>6016010
>t-90
Ah, I see you are a man of taste.jpg
That's a cute model with the leds

>>6016696
>shilling for Mig this hard

>>6016700
Well, shipping from spain is kinda expensive (at least for me) so it makes sense to buy more stuff at once.

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>>6016700
I wish they gave me free shit to shill.
Like >>6016725 said, it's better to order all at the same time. As for other stuff I already have a ton and the weathering things are more fun and varied, so new project new things to try.
As for the kit the turret is just awesome, but there're some other things that are a bit weird or poorly executed. I think they lack experience, but I hope they get on Meng level in a few releases

Post your techniques for making seabases plz

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Just mocked up right now. It will be easier to paint in pieces.

>>6016828
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>>6016696
How much fucking money do you have?

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>>6016918
too much

>>6016918
It's 1 kit, a bunch of paints and pigments and a bunch of catalogues and information books.

It doesn't exactly represent a fortune, Anon likely just placed a big order to save on shipping and get the spending for the coming months out of the way in one go.

>>6016924
What's your occupation? How are you finding time to build models? I always start a model and then just stop. I very rarely get to the painting stage.

>>6016918
>>6016926
Basically this. Thats probably less or around 100 bucks for like 1-2 month of hobby-time.

>>6016936
Thats probably like 120 bucks. Its not that insanely expensive that you have to ask his occupation

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>>6016960
I live in Eastern Europe......

>>6016977
Then it does represent a fair bit more money, true.
But still not an excessive amount I imagine.

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First time weathering a ship. Also first time doing rigging and im really happy with that.

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So first time doing an aircraft model. I need some help on making a wood color mix. also for the propellor do you think aliminum or gunmetal is more appealing if the model isnt weathered. thanks m8s

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Has anyone tried to make their own panel line wash with this thing?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141982902297?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=441101420640&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

>>6017462
i mix oil paints and turpentine to make mine, then brush it on with a specific brush, like i would with those markers or the tamiya panel line thing

>>6017462
depends on the type of pain not sure man sorry I ususually air brush panels for that effect

>>6017462
I'd be more worried about how well the pens would hold the enamel paint

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>>6017426
The blades of the propellor should be flat black.

For wood I ise vallejo medium fleshtone 70.860 as a base coat. After that I apply streaks of unthinned raw umber oil paint

>>6017484
so would i, that's why I ordered a few.

>>6017462
Why would you want to? Capillary action allows a panel wash to flow only in the lines

>>6017488
thanks man. the flesh mix is interesting ill conisder that for now ill stick with the black.

>>6017493
so i could keep the wash in a container and not mix a new batch every time.

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advice on getting rid of this stupid shit. fucking glue

>>6017523
Do you live in a backwater country where small jars do not exist

>>6017577
You don't. Sand it.

>>6017577
Youre gonna have to sand it down

>>6017594
>>6017595
thats what I was afraid of

>>6017594
>>6017595
>>6017639

Or you could just cut/scrape it off carefully with an exacto knife, that's what I always do to get rid of excessive glue.

>>6017488
>>6017507

Correction here for the sake of an accurate paint job.

The A6M did not have black props. It should be aluminum colored or a red brown.

>>6017639

What kind of glue was it? Don't do anything yet.

>>6017687
testors

>>6017698
The gel or liquid type? If it's the gel type just don't touch it at all until it cures because it reacts with plastic to melt it.

Once it cures completely then you can go with the back of a hobby knife and start scraping it lightly, that will do the trick.

>>6017684
I was looking online and saw that to but i dont have the colors in tamiya. I have a similar in citadel but its a little bright. Ill look at some mixes for a red brown

>>6017702
liquid

>>6017706

Ah, you can use some nail polish remover, use the kind any woman would use, dip it in a cotton bud and wet the glue a bit, it will dissolve it as you rub with the cotton bud.

Just don't overdo it because nail polish remover also reacts with plastic, just not as much as pure acetone.

>>6017710
well since then ive sanded it smooth then cleaned the area with alcohol on a q tip. The reason I was looking for an alt method was I didnt want to fuck up the rivets on the fuselage. Thanks for the advice tho because i was about to use thinner which probably would have ate my model

>>6017706
wait at least 7 hours until it dries then scrape it off and sand.

>>6017590
if you haven't noticed but the brush pen doesn't only contain paint, but also has an applicator. convenience, motherfucker.

All I want is a model of the bunny mech from suckerpunch

>>6017740
An applicator will harden when the paint dries, silly

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Nearly finished with my Scharnhorst, just need to get the motor launches on and then do some streaking on the hull.

Also, need to get a camera that doesn't suck.

>>6017889
Looks good. Please detail how you made that base

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>>6017889
>buying nazi shit
nice water tho senpai
>>6017426
Heres my progress need to do some more sanding and cleanup on seams. Just finished cleaning my brush after shanking myself a couple of times but shes ready for paint tommarow.

>>6016607
Hey, anyone knows a good scale model kit for a Chinese Junk? Or Zheng He's Treasure ship? Or a Korean Tortoise ship?

>>6017921
1/500 are always nice to display if youve got the shekels

>>6017923
Coincidentally,I was thinking of purchasing this.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-arrive-Scale-1-96-black-pearl-Pirates-of-the-Caribbean-wooden-model-kit-include/32594798115.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.2.oB1SVW

Should I? Or should I up my budget and get this instead?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZHL-Wooden-model-ship-kits-of-the-black-Pearl-Golden-version-2016-Free-7-pcs-sailor/32729684584.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.5.YpnGtf&scm=1007.13339.33317.0&pvid=5c6cc279-90ce-4637-9e96-c78bfb85065d&tpp=1

>>6017916
Didn't know this was a cringe thread.

>>6017927
Nigga I said i wasnt done calm down
>>6017926
Go for the second one better display piece

>>6017916
>nubs everywhere
>mold seams everywhere
>joints not dealt with

>>6017940
I dont think you can read

>>6017916
Yikes. You should have painted some assemblies before putting it all together

>>6017926
Both are pretty dope. I think a junk would be cooler though

>>6017944
like what? Its revell there arent many pieces and i could always mask

>>6017948
Not him, but you usually paint the cockpit and any internals before assembling it

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>>6017959
the only internals is just one piece dude plus the pilot, nothing I couldnt do with a brush. and yes im gonna clean all that glue shit out and hes wearing headphones thats not a mold line. If this was a tamiya kit id paint before installing for sure

>>6017965
Also engine cowl, landing gear bay, etc

Idk just seems overall real sloppy

>>6017970
are you talking about inside the bay?
Its metallic blue right?

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>>6017980

A pity I don't have more moo-lah.
Otherwise,i might blow it all on this to use as a year-long project.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/NEW-version-Scale-1-50-classic-Russian-wooden-ship-model-Kit-ingermanland-1715-ship-wooden-model/1404704_32664621657.html?spm=2114.8147860.0.0.Ys4TFQ

>>6017946
Can't find an appealing one tho

>>6017980
Aotake

>>6018015
I think the A6M5 is just light gray tho with a red and blue stripe above the wheel so other than the hydralics i think a spray job would be fine

>>6017965

Don't listen to the assholes in this thread. That is a complicated kit if doing aircraft for the first time and you are doing just fine.

I think I built this when I was about 13 and it was a horrible kit. You should totally go for a tamiya Zero next time much easier to build and with recessed panel lines.

>>6017889
Nice. Could you take some photos at a closer range that show more of the superstructure? Looks a bit "clean" in this photo, did you do any weathering?

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>>6017909
The base is actually the base of one of those plastic model display cases made for cars. Since I was too lazy to make it properly, I outlined the waterline hull with clear glue, then spread lines of tamiya putty to make "waves" across the base. Then, I sprayed the entire thing Vallejo German gray and then poured scenery water on it. when that dried, I drybrushed it to bring out the wake and whitecaps.

>>6018132
Here you go. It hasn't been weathered yet, and I actually still need to do detail painting for the searchlight and small AA guns.

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>>6018132

>>6018139
The deck looks incredibly light to me, especially considering it's exposed to the elements 100% of the time.

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>>6016607
How does my tamiya AMX-13 look? It's a little basic but I'm rather happy with it. This broke my 4 month hiatus with scale modeling. Enjoyable kit to build. I wasn't cautious and let paint pool up on the engine grill, does this happen to anyone else, if so how can I avoid that in the future with photo etch?

>>6018305
Also I'm considering writing "Pepe" on the gun tube but that sounds kind of dumb.

dropped my 1/700 ship from a few inches. Completely broke the mast, rigging, and some pe railings

Gf cant understand why im upset

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>>6018799
Why must you do this?

>>6018247
I haven't given it a wash or any form of weathering yet, so it's understandable that it would look too light.

>>6018817
Totally missed that, I was in a rush this morning, sorry! Make sure to post it when it's done.

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>>6016438
I am actually
The zvezda one is better in every way except variety and the tracks aren't that bad if you chop them up into links (the best way to fit the zvezda tracks)
MG barrel is very flimsy and broke off 2 times, I can't be bothered to make it look good anymore
I wanna make it into the kodiak tank from rise of the reds

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>>6018994
the headlight grills are just abhorrent, so I tried to replace them with a wire

>>6017577
use a very sharp blade, shave the large extrusions until few remain then sand

>>6018799
done the same thing with my titanic model.

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gettin work done on the base. Not exactly how I wanted it but theres plenty more to do

>>6017684
The back of the props were indeed flat black to prevent the aluminium front from dazzling the pilot

Brown was for the later variants

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I am looking for a 72nd scale star like picrelated
where can I look (UK), since I am not really into aftermarket decals

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>>6020497
With that white outline?
What size?

Revells I-153 comes with big red stars, but without the white line
Pic related

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>>6020497
just buy any cold war soviet plane or chopper. i also think that ruskies still using this design so check also modern.

>>6020502
>>6020537
not gonna buy an entire kit for the decals

>>6020544
So, if you don't like aftermarket decals and don't like buying a kit for the decals.. what exactly did you ask for?

>>6020555
I didn't say that I'm not gonna buy an aftermarket decal set, what I meant was that I have never purchased aftermarket decals before and I want to.

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>>6016786
I have the weathering magazine water issue, but it doesn't really enter on the base a lot if I remember well. Later I'll look it and post if there's something.
>>6016918
>>6016924
>>6016926
>>6016936
>>6016959
>>6016960
Wew, well that's 115€ worth of stuff (125$ more or less according to google) so pretty on point. I have a chieftain mk10 and the full interior king tiger in the stash, so between these three I hope to be busy until march or so.
Blogpost: About my job I don't earn as much is I thought I would and I don't really like it either (industrial engineer, I do what I'm told in cad or do some fucking excel sheet and that's it) so I'm thinking of learning German and follow other friends and go there as a slave but doing something more interesting and better paid. I usually have fridays and the weekend free to work on this, or just do it at night and regret it in the morning.
>>6018305
Something looks off about the paint job, the black streaks are supposed to be there?
>>6020562
http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=1%3A72+soviet+decals&isNewKw=1&isRefine=true&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&_trksid=p2056088.m2428.l1313.TR0.TRC0.X1%3A72+soviet+decals&sqp=1%3A72+soviet+decals

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>>6018799
Fuck, I know that feeling

Hooray for sales! Picked up 3 new kits for cheap.

>>6020891
Whatd you get bruh

>>6020920
From LM:
GWH 1/48 F-15J
LR 1/35 Flak 43

From SB:
Meng 1/35 Flakpanzer Gepard

>>6018799
I know that feeling. My Atago was killed by an unexpected cross-breeze when she was temporarily resting on the windowsill.
>>6019093
The ship looks a bit rough but not bad for your first 1/700. I hope you didn't hate building it and that you try a WWII ship next time since it allows you to play around a lot more with weathering, which to me means more fun. I really have to learn how to make nice bases for my future ships.

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Finished

>>6021310
It looks alright, but ease up on the weathering next time. Modern ships like Arleigh Burkes don't get into that bad shape, they are pretty well maintained.

>>6020809
>industrial engineer
what is it about engineers and modeling?

Is it the frustrating detail work? The meticulosity? Maybe it's just about being in a room alone working on something by yourself?

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>Would /toy/ rate my latest work?

As per last thread I went and got X20 and tamiya's panel accent (gray). I put the panel liner on the matte finish. The liner still floats very well so I really not sure you really have to do it on a gloss surface or not.

Did fuck it up with bare plastic with the panel liner though. The pegs for the canon get brittle and cracked. I ended up have to glue everything together as most of the snap pegs are broken.

>>6021582
Looks waaaay better now.

>>6021315
Was going to say the same thing.

>>6021582
Still looks bad

>>6021582
Try to clean up the blue around the engines that got where it shouldn't and slap on (more of) a wash on the corrugated golden bits.

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>>6021703
>>6021584
>>6021699
Thanks for the input. I think I will leave the thing as it is for now. The condition of the kit after the panel liner doesn't seem to be optimal for further tinkering. .
Will be starting on the Y wing.

Just for comparison, y and X wings from 2chan .

I got myself a Tamiya Weathering stick for mud effect.
Its wrapping says i just have to dabble it on where i want it to be muddy.. do i need some kind of pigment fixer or anything before that?
I'm kinda scared to ruin something by using it wrong.

>>6021544
It's the fact you can build something without doing all the FUCKING DOCUMENTATION

>>6021714
http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/weathering-133#.WCuVGvkrLcc

The Tamiya website has some instruction on it

Whats the most youve ever spent on a kit?

>>6022516
Just the kit or kit plus aftermarket?

>>6022517
Either

>>6022529
$400+ on Trumpeter 1/32 MiG-23 plus aftermarket.

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>>6016607

I have a question for the guys who have put in considerable time building
and collecting. Is there a website or photo gallery that shows scales
of tanks like my picture related.

I think its really fun to see the size dynamic of tanks next to each other.
Like from Germany early panzers compaired to late models. A German King
Tiger next to an Abrams or a T-90A would be awesome. does a site like
that exist?

>>6022559
I don't thinks so, maybe someone in their forum/post puts their last work next to the new one or does a pic of their collection, but that's pretty much it afaik

>>6022538
Have you built it yet? I'm curious how big it is. Show a pic please

>>6022559
Sounds like a nice idea for a site, but i've never seen one.

I guess you could ask in forums or on facebook or in here for people to share pics of their tanks next to each other to create such a thing.

>>6022516
I tend to buy small kits. I don't have that much space and i'd hate to store old 1:35 builds somewhere in the basement because my shelf is full. So i settled with 1/48 vehicles as a compromise between size and price. I rarely buy a kit over 30€.
The most expensive was probably my (still unbuilt) King Tiger with the Porsche Turret together with some aftermarket stuff like metal barrels for gun and mg. All in all i think it was around 60€. This will be my project over the holidays.

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>>6021315
>Arleigh Burkes don't get into that bad shape
Yes they do. They're not rust buckets like Russian ships, but they can get prettily heavily roughed up after months at sea.

Then when they go back to port they get well taken care of.

>>6022559
Just fyi those are really nice builds

>>6023226
Nope, and won't any time soon.

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That's a big box for a small tank. Standard Revell 1/72 AFV box for reference. It's also a centimetre thicker than the Revell one. Now let's see...

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...not quite box scale.

>>6023371
Maybe they did all parts in one, bigger, sprue than the usual 2-3 revell sprues?

>>6023374
A well...

>>6023374
Standard size box. Cheaper than ordering new ones

>>6023399
Probably this. It also looks sturdy enough to be used for something in your house to store things.

>>6023399
>>6023405
Well, yes, obviously. It wasn't exactly one of the big guys who produced that kit. Still, makes for a reasonably amusing sight as you pop the lid, especially with the absolutely stuffed Revell box to calibrate by.

>>6023374
Better that than the boxes you can't fit everything back into when you unpack the sprues.

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>>6023418
>Dragon kits

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So I'm sitting here in my car wondering what the hell I was thinking getting a 1/700 Fletcher, when I see a piece. Should I try to make a super miniature aircraft carrier out of that?

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>>6023538
>buying 1/700 ships

>>6023538
Yes. Do it.

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>>6023672
Well that's all the motivation I need!
Here's a very early stage pic:

>>6023716
That looks remarkably similar to how it looked on the sprue

>>6023931
>a very early stage pic

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>>6023553
Nothing wrong with 1/700 bud, that's like shitting on 1/72. I prefer to build larger scales like 1/350 ships and 1/32 aircraft, but I still dip into the smaller scales every now ant again. It depends on the brand a lot honestly, because many 1/700 kits are garbage and lack finer details, but as injection molding has improved, we have had companies like Flyhawk release 1/700 kits that rival 1/350 scale in terms of details. For example, see their Lutzow kit, it's fucking amazing.

Also, Flyhawk's 1/72 vehicle kits are incredible as well, it's seriously shocking how much detail they pumped into such a small scale kit.

Smaller scales are also a lot of fun to do simply because they require much less time to build and paint / weather compared to larger stuff, it's nice to be able to complete a build in a day or two, rather than weeks.

>>6023716
What a waste of 3.19MB.

>>6023716
time to get sanding and filling

>>6020562
>>>6020555
>I didn't say that I'm not gonna buy an aftermarket decal set, what I meant was that I have never purchased aftermarket decals before and I want to.
Hannants my nigguh

>>6024088
Hannants? Lmao
Hope you like having your CC info stolen.

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No cars?
Just bought this little guy.

>Inb4 overpriced
I got a discount

>>6024852
What a waste of 3.29MB.

>>6024852
i have a couple of car kits laying around, mostly Tamiya, but never build one. I'm kinda scared by the paintjob.

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>>6024873
Me too, I just bought an airbrush set. I'm going to give it a go for once.

I'm gonna do this C4 after the golf.

>>6024860
What a waste of a human life

>>6024875
What a waste of a (You).

>>6023983
>>6024860
What a waste of a troll

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Here's a link to a free pdf of Migs FAQ. Really good resource for beginning modelers. For the OP.

What do you guys think of the stug? I'm making some progress it's my 2nd model. Along side the tiger my friend did.

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>>6025083
I'm retarded I forgot the link:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.grispanzer.com/downloads/accionpress/%255BScale%2520Modelling%255D%2520-%2520FAQ%2520of%2520the%2520AFV%2520Painting%2520Techniques%2520by%2520Mig%2520Jimenez.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjBh53u_a_QAhWKjVQKHckbCLoQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNGLA6dyUbbAxRwgx2yC7k6CPMy9Uw&sig2=yuaHavfzQc1QkYfNsU7YSQ

>>6025083
I think you forgot something, friend

>>6024852
I wish there'd be more of them down around 1/72 and 1/35. I'd like to build my car, or at least something of similar size, for size comparisons.

>>6025088
You wanna put together a hotwheel?

>>6025088
This is something i don't understand either. Why have this strange scale for only cars when most people build 1/35 vehicles.

>>6025091
It's not like it'll be much smaller than the m/38 tank a bit up.

Hell, I'll probably scrathbuild something (crude and very low-detail) in 1/700 once I get to the ship side of things...

>>6025092
The lack of 1/35 cars is the strangest bit I can think of when it comes to the shifting scales for things, and that's including the 1/32-1/35 split.

>>6020809
Yeah those black streaks were part of the olive drab grime streaking that I was trying to do.

>>6025092
Most cars are 1/32 right? That's not the strangest scale, it's the common scale for large single prop aircraft. Some companies also make jets in 1/32 that are massive.

>>6025275
I was thinking about 1/24 when i posted that earlier. You are right about 1/32 though.

>>6025275
Cars are usually 1/24 from what I've seen.

And the odd thing about 1/35-1/32 isn't that 1/32 specifically exists, it's that we have both of them when simply settling for one wouldn't really have taken anything away from anything, and instead meant a lot of tanks and aircraft in scale with each other.

>>6025329
Agreed. 1/35 is the odd man out.

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>>6016828
Ammo Limber is ready for paint.

>>6026106
Are you gonna weather it?

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>>6023413
>big guys

>Built mostly sci-fi and mecha stuff
>Some ships and tanks
>Being getting some additional paint

Should I get some green paint? I for one couldn't remember if I ever needed the color green.

>>6026298
>Urban/Snow Camo looks better tho

I wonder if anyone here was ballsy enough to pull off Dazzle Camos off their rigs

>>6016607
>Scale Model General
obviously this is a model thread, so im in the wrong place, never been to /toy/ anyone point me in the right direction?

been searching the catalog not sure where to ask, but im looking for a good Mach 5 replica, metal and between hot wheels and like 10in long

where the fuck can i post this appropriately?

>>6025085
Thanks anon

>>6026352
Not sure if that helps, but ive seen "diecast" threads in the past. Not very popular i assume though.

>>6020809
Is that the Meng T-90?

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>>6026528

>>6026298
Get it when you need it?

>>6026106
It's really detailed this arty, British?
>>6025152
Then do it more softly and subtle. And maybe light it up a bit with some oil dot and light dust
>>6026352
Here I'm not sure, maybe do a whole thread like a prick or post on one of the open questions threads. Or this might sound weird, but in a legit way "go to Reddit" as they have a lot of different subboards with niche stuff
>>6026528
Nope, it's a tiger model T-90MS. A sexy tank but the kit has some wacky highs and lows which is weird for such an expensive kit.
Build log:
http://m.imgur.com/a/u8bpw

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Man, new kit prices are fucking steep.

>>6026669
Do you really have to build the newest and hottest shit all the time?

>>6026665
Bronco 1/35 25 pdr - British

>>6026671
I'd like to but they're so damn expensive. The most I've spent on a kit was 40 euros.

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is this an actual real tank?

i saw it posted in an unrelated thread on another board and as best i can find online it is apparently an Armata T-14 but image results for that have a completely different turret

>>6026891
Prototype of T-14

>>6026891
This was a concept of that tank with an improved new turret, but when they revealed the T-14 to the public it turned out they went with a different (less advanced) turret.

It might be still in development. /k/ or one of the russians on /int/ probably could tell you more.

>>6026891
Could be an early potential variant, artists rendition based on fragmentary information, or somethign like that.

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>>6026891
That's just a concept, the actual prototype or initial shape of the t-14 armata is pic related. It's available in kit form from takom:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/951134-takom-2029-t-14-armata

>>6026903
I think the T-14 is the first modern russian tank i don't like based on his looks.

>>6026903

>That's just a concept

well that's a fuckin shame because it was the sexiest tank i've ever seen and i hoped for a kit

the real t-14 is boring

>>6026905
>his
OKAY, shitlord

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>>6026905
>>6026914
Well, post ww2 Russian tanks are almost a fetish and the sexiest armored beasts to me, I'm getting ready for creating a T-series marathon next year starting with the T-90MS warm up that I’m doing now. That said the armata platform as it is now it's a bit “neat” or plain, but AFAIK the turret is either a test bed or the internal structure as it lacks the typical detachable ERA/NERA armor typical of Russian and other armies, although you could argue that with the APS suite it carries it doesn't need it and would only increase the weight.
For me the saddest lost opportunity was the black eagle prototype (aka T-80UM2), the most beautiful and badass tank I’ve seen in years and the turret kinda looks like the one in >>6026891, in kit form there is only in 1:72 atm from modelcollect:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/948439-modelcollect-ua72057-t-80um2-black-eagle-main-battle-tank
That might be worth to check and maybe do some scratch work to make it look like that illustration, or just hope like me that meng, trumpeter or tiger model notices it and makes a version in 1:35.
And pic related is another that I would love to do. The object 490A “REBEL”, I’ve seen it with several names (Molot and others) but they are variants of the same proposal so more or less the same, Is just badass and aesthetic as fuck

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>Have a Zvedza T-90 kit still in plastic rap for 2 months
>Still havent had the time to dedicate to building it due to work and classes
>Having finished the paintjob on my Leopard 2A6
>Started the Leopard back in August
December cant come soon enough

>>6027414
Haven't*

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FUCKING BUMP /TOY/ IS FULL OF CHILDREN

REAL MEN BUILD MODELS!

Are the revell star wars kits any good? I heard some were reboxed FineMolds kits

>>6028438
No and no.

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>>6028438
They reboxed the Finemold kits years ago and re-released them. Pretty expensive though. They call it "Master Series". (pic related). Prices are $50+

These kits are generally pretty good. (because they are not made by revell).

Then there is their new line of star wars kits. Difficulty level 1 (Prepainted Snap fit without sprues and with sound/light modules), 2 (Prepainted within sprues, apparently snapfit though i had to glue some parts. Pretty big ships, pretty cheap, but not they are, just like lvl 1, just toys).
Then there is level 3. Kinda small kits, unpainted sprues, but pretty easy to build. Weak details compared to Bandais. Not really expensive though. (Around 5-6€ on Amazon).

For children and beginners these might be nice kits, everyone else should pass if its not some super cheap deal. (I got 2 of the big level 2 tie fighters for 5€ each.. still shitty kits though)

>>6028455
cont

The worst thing for me about their kits is that they all are in different scales, even within their series.
Most of them also lack their display stand. Some have it (Vaders Tie fighter for example, while the new, red "special force" tie fighter has no flight stand and has to sit on its wings in the shelf..)

Very weird range overall and clearly not aimed at experienced builders.

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Apparently Tamiya is releasing a new tool Crusader and a Valentine tank next year, looks pretty good.

Saw it on Scalemates, but I can't find any other pictures of them.

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>>6028543
Oh great ANOTHER Valentine

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Made quite a lot of progress today, the drag is that it has a ton of small things and areas were the paint wouldnt cover then and can be seen and I have to leave them unglued for later, which is fine for 3-4 things but not for almost half a tank... but that's Russian armor and what it makes it so lovely.
And the lack of autism here is worrisome so have some: as the ms version is an export variant, mainly for the Indian but still in the air, I'm thinking of just going full ww3 or pre-ww3 regional conflict.
The idea that I have is doing a Russian crewed t-90ms given by the Indians to use in a relieve operation to a VDV division deployed in the Tibet-Nepal area for anti Chinese shenanigans that got isolated. So I'm thinking of maybe doing Indian colors with a beaten white wash camouflage or the Russian green-sand-black-grey blue scheme as if confiscated before delivery and put on Russian service. And complement this with some slogan in Nepalese or Russian (can't think of what to write, maybe someone can think something good) hand brushed. And give a heavy use and dirt vibe or maybe a snowy one.
>>6027414
Nice, are you going to do the green-sand-black pattern or going on something more exotic? (Maybe Syrian deployment?)

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>>6028665
I'm talking of doing the first one. I tried to search info about it but I've found info about the other illustrations except this with the grey blue. I think it's quite fitting for a mountain scenery

>>6028556
Both the Miniart and AFV Club ones have major issues.

>>6028543
It's not a new tool, it's a rebox of the bad Italeri one.

Maybe a stupid question. I normally buy models on amazon or ebay. Never bought direct from manufacturer. Do any companies do black friday sales?

>>6028713
Never buy models direct form manufacturer. They will be way more expensive.

LuckyModel has sales all November, both on certain kits and aftermarket and overall % discount. (Based in HK. I order most of my stuff through them. (US) Just make sure to only order "in stock" items if you're in a hurry. Things not in stock might take them several weeks to get.)

SprueBrothers usually has a Cyber Monday sale, but their prices keep going up and their "Super Specials" have been the same crap for years.

Don't buy from Squadron. They jack up their prices before sales and advertise things on sale only to "run out."

>>6028724
Also, when ordering from LM, it will often be cheaper to ship multiple items in separate orders if you want the air mail shipping.

>>6028556
Better than a Tiger, King Tiger or Stug i guess.

Have you built a Valentine yet?

>>6028713
Well, Amazon has a huge sale and they certainly will drop prices for some kits too.

Afaik 1999 co.jp had a big sale last year too

>>6028709
At least the Miniart one doesn't cost a bajillion dollars and doesn't have molded on handles.

>>6028761
>cost a bajillion dollars
Too expensive for mommy to buy for you? Don't have enough GBP?

>>6028764
I prefer to spend my money on manufacturers who put detail in their kits and who're not a one trick pony like Tamiya with their MUH FIT

>>6028761
The Miniart Valentines are nearly unbuildable from how messed up the suspension and wheels are.

>>6028761
>>6028774
Trust me, I have built Mini-Art's Valentine. It's one of Mini-Art's older kits and is loaded with issues. The wheels barely even fit on the suspension, and the tracks were god awful. I almost finished building the kit before I just gave up because of all the issues I was having. The tracks and wheels just refused to align themselves properly. Mini art's kits aren't that cheap anyways honestly, especially if you're buying them in the US. They cost pretty comparably to other manufacturers.

>>6028769
Tamiya kits have just as much detail as anything else. If anything, many manufacturers over-engineer their kits to the point where they make the build longer just for the sake of putting more parts into the kit. There's always aftermarket if you want to spice up an already great Tamiya kit.

Also, fit is extremely important, and Tamiya doesn't only have the best fit, but the best engineering in their kits for what they are. That said, Tamiya is not beyond criticism, I really dislike what they are doing with their recent releases, for example their Panther kit in which they include better tracks separately instead of just including them inside the kit itself.

>>6028724
Sprue Brothers does 20% off sales every weekend I think, I get emails from the all the time like 20% off all Meng stuff one week, 20% off all AFV club he next, etc. That said, always price check with ebay / amazon before going through them because I've noticed some kits they sell are WAY over-priced compared to their competitors, for example the Tamiya 1/32 aircraft they sell are way cheaper to import from HLJ or 1999.co.jp.

>>6028787
They had the Meng Flakpanzer as Deal of the Day when the Meng sale was running. Picked it up for $30.

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Git hype

>>6028665
>>6028671
Not sure. I'm doing my L2A6 up as NATO in snow camo so I may do a more desert themed variation.

>>6028804
Gepard?
>>6028154
Solid arguement

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Next project.

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>>6029144
They only make one.

>>6029144
I've also got a solid cock.

>>6029173
They also make a shilka

>>6029678
Shilka and Flakpanzer are two different names for two different vehicles.

>>6029684
I read flakpanzer as a generic term for anti aircraft vehicles, as in category.

>>6029728
Wir sprechen hier nicht deutsch.

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A bit more done and some armor placed but not glued, I'm thinking if it's worth to have all this pieces to glue after priming
>>6029004
Then might I tempt you with a Syrian deployment t-90? (Pic related in next post) they have a desertic weathering and colors, you have a lot of online references and it's an interesting subject, I'm thinking of doing the t-90 that got hit in the turret with a TOW next year if I can't find something else that catches my eye but I recomend it too to others
>>6029170
How much did it cost you and do you think the brand is worthy? Because here GWH kits are fucking expensive for a bike or a pak cannon only (40-60€)

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>>6029784
This one, the others have a similar pattern I think. Not sure about the ones in the airport. Maybe if one of the companies that partnered with ammo mig releases a t-90a we would get some color profiles of the Syrian conflict or the Ukraine one

>>6029784
I paid around $20 for it on sale. Money well spent.
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=LR%20L3505
https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/greatwall/l3505.html

It's cheaper to buy Chinese kits from HK. I paid around $50 for the GWH MiG-29s and F-15s and they are $80 - $90 in the states.

>>6029784
What country do you live in?
Also how do you like the Tiger model kit? I don't like the way they mold everything right on the turret and not as separate pieces. I'd prefer the Trumpeter kit but myself. How much was that kit anyways? In my LHS the Trumpeter one costs 54 euros.

>>6029805
Do you have to pay any import taxes in the US? Because shipping from China isn't that cheaper than just buying from a LHS, well at least where I'm from. It's because we have to pay 21% VAT on everything that worth more than 24 euros (that's with shipping included). That's why I only order aftermarket stuff like DEF model wheels from China because they offer free shipping.

>>6029810
Nope. The shipping cost for a single kit from HK isn't much more than from the US.

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>>6029812
Everything is better in the USA

>>6029805
That's a very good price, it's weird that just this brand and tiger model are more expensive than the others overall here. I might order these brands in HK then, but on a big order to lower costs even with customs if they don't lower the prices to a reasonable level within a year
>>6029806
Spain. The kits cost me 75 with the paints in a preorder combo from the online ammo mig store (now they sell it there for almost 100€ which is pretty crazy unless you can't find it elsewhere). As for the kit itself take into account that the trumpeter one that's in the market is the "2011" (the one with a Putin mini If i remember well) version and this kit is the "2013" (with possibility of doing the '11 one) and afaik trumpeter is ready to release their '13 but it's not yet on the market. The turret details that are molded in are just the base for the ton that comes later so don't focus much on that. My main concern is some of the engineering and fitting issues that shouldn't be on such expensive kit, I know that much of the parts that doesn't work well end unseen but still it buggers me. Overall it's really pleasing I have to admit and worth it if you can buy it in the 60€ range but don't spend much more unless you really want it or don't mind the price, I'm going to get the trumpeter one also and compare them when it's released, I suppose their version will be pretty similar

>>6029831
My mistake, the tiger model one I have is the 2011-2012 version. The 2013 is another one looks like, but I'm not sure what changes in the '13 one as I have the option to put the new LED lights. So with the "2011" version you can build the same as the TM one overall. But as it's not a service tank I suppose that the newest version would be the """best""" one

>>6029812
Lots of sellers from HK or China on ebay ship for free though.

>>6029843
Ebay is risky, especially with Chinese sellers. And LM is often cheaper even with shipping.

>>6029854
Really? I never made a bad experience so far. Quite the contrary.
One time i ordered something for $75 and waited a couple of weeks (as usual) and after 2 more weeks i still got no parcel i wrote the guy and he refunded me fully without hesitation... literally 3 days later my stuff arrived.

And if you pay with Paypal, there is no risk at all anyway even if they refuse to refund, you'll get your money back.

I'll might give Luckymodel a try next time, because why not.

>>6029831
I ordered stuff from Ammo once and dumbasses at customs charged me 23 euros VAT plus postal taxes because I uses Swiss post services. Never again. I'm glad there's an online shop in Lithuania that sells Ammo stuff but they only have Takom models and most of them you have to order because they don't have them in stock.

>>6029866
Ordering aftermarket parts from LM is good because some of them have free air shipping. Stuff like Def model and Live resin

I heard a while ago that it is possible to order individual sprues from Tamiya. How do i do that? I checked the website, but their replacement part section seems to be for only RC cars only.

>>6029854
I've ordered many times from Chinese sellers on ebay, just check feedback before you buy. I've gotten Trumpeter and other chinese brand kits from China for far cheaper than they retail in the US with cheap shipping.

>>6029883
Have to call them to order parts.

>>6029887
LM is based in HK...

Sincere Hobby is another HK seller

Well for me ordering from them are all benefits and has been a pleasing experience to me (they even called me before shipping to make sure I wanted a magazine in English instead of in Spanish to check if I didn’t fuck up) and the courier company that I usually select is pretty efficient.
But your shipping problem was pretty weird as both are UE countries (origin and final destination) so you should have made an inquiry, but what is done is done. It’s a shame as the ammo store has all their kits displayed in real time stock and carry Takom (normal prices overall), GWH (although their prices are really high like in my LHS), Tiger Model (again, pretty expensive outside of preorders), Rye Field (normal prices here) and Modelcollect (1:72, pretty cheap and varied) so you can get a kit, paints and weathering stuff all in one order without having to wait and get access to brands that are more rare to get in stock in physical stores. Maybe you could try to use another courier company. I don’t know Lithuanian hobby shops so maybe another alternative is modellbau-koenig and der sockelshop as they carry all brands and have a pretty extensive aftermarket also, and shipping from Germany should be even cheaper than from Spain I suppose.
I was checking the T-90MS in lucky model and its cheaper (53.38€-58$ vs 90€) but when you add shipping and whatever customs charge if they pick your package it gets on the 80 something € range easily so maybe the prices aren’t that off, but still can’t justify them.

>>6029994
meant for
>>6029870

>>6029994
I messaged and called the customs but they still insisted it was from Switzerland even though the origin was from Spain.
Shipping from Germany at minimum is 15 euros. I buy my stuff from Poland because the shipping is much cheaper but there's only air shipping now (for what fucking reason there has to be air shipping from fucking Poland I don't know).
Recently I started buying kits from ebay. Much cheaper than buying them from a hobby shop. Picked up a Meng Leopard 2A4 for 23 pounds, Meng Auf 1 TA for 20 and Hobbyboss CV9040 for 11. Also most RBmodel barrels are in stock now so I bought one for the Leopard 2A4. Gonna use it on Hobbyboss Strv. 122. I'll see if I'll pick one up for the Meng kit as well.

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>>6030009
>Gonna use it on Hobbyboss Strv. 122.

http://www.plasticwarfare.se/2008/03/what-shall-we-do-with-the-hobby-boss-stridsvagn-122/

Good luck.

>>6027414
>plastic rap
it's spelled rapp

Is there a way to make recognizable 1/35 christmas lights?

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>>6030090
Did you take that pic?
I know about the problems of the Hobbyboss kit. I don't think I'll correct everything but I'll try. I wonder how did that guy cut the plexi glass at an angle like that. I love how Strv. 122 looks.
Also not all the corrections that he did are necessary. The rear lights don't have to be integrated into the rear grills

>>6030694
>Did you take that pic?

Yeah, the Swedish army has parked one at the tank museum in Strägnäs. Took a photo very specifically of that bit as I remembered APU woes.

>>6030908
>APU woes
Did you serve on Strv. 122s?

>>6030910
Nope.

Poorfag here, because of absolutely abismal working light I use I rently goofed a pz.III ausf L by making my brown paint wash a little too thick and now I can barely see the paintwork underneath, plus with me using a tamiya red brown paint for the wash my model now has a slight reddish tinge to it.

Is there anyway to sort this cafufle?
I was thinking of going over it once or twice with an olive green wash to try and get the green underneath to come though more but at this point I think of would just make things worse.

Sorry no pictures ATM.

>>6030975
What kind of paint did you paint it with and what did you use to make the wash?

>>6030980
Tamiya acrylic paints by hand, i'm not confident enough to try and airbrush tanks yet.

Same with the wash, I just watered down some brown paint and applied it in layers, that was till I got the mixture wrong.

>>6030985
You shouldn't apply a wash over the whole tank. Thats a job for a filter.

Maybe you can re-establish your base colors by re-painting them over the washed areas while you try to leave the wash in the recesses and corners.

Hard to give proper advise without a pic.

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>>6030975
>>6030985
It's fucked. Best bet is to either remove the paint and start over or paint over it. NEVER do a wash with the same type paint. And applying a clear gloss protective layer like future helps a lot.
I suggest using enamel paint and doing a pin wash. If you have any further questions feel free to ask, or you know use Google.

>>6016607
Hey, Löwe-Anon.. do you know if your camo pattern has a special name?

>>6030993
>>6030995
It was going pretty well at first, it did exactly what I wanted and took a bit or the vibrancy out of the paint work underneath and made the tank look old/dusty/mucky like it had been in service for a while, but like I said I goofed it once and fucked it all up.

>>6030999
If nothing else works... white wash and snow/mud.

>>6030985
You always use a different paint type for the wash. If you paint with acrylics, use an enamel/oil wash. If you paint with enamels, use an acrylic/clay wash. Washes should be done after a gloss clear coat.

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>>6029170
The gun is mostly done except for the PE bits I still need to add. Just have the trailer, base, and gun shields left to do.

>>6030998
German octopus pattern camo

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>>6031007

>>6031008
Thanks.

>>6030999
What effect were you trying to achieve? Accentuate the details or do it as a filter?

>>6031007
>>6031009
Gonna add any figures to it?

>>6031015
No.

>>6031012
As a filter not a wash, sorry.

Airfix is doing a black friday sale right now.

some pretty alright deals http://www.airfix.com/us-en/shop/black-friday-1.html

Sadly not going to buy anything as I have enough of a backlog now.

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>>6031155
>Airfix kits in my LHS cost less than from the online Airfix shop

>>6031184
Buying anything direct from manufacturers always costs more.

>>6031155
Thanks for the info. Nothing included that interests me sadly.

>>6031155
Of course none of their newer, decent kits are on sale. All old crap honestly.

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>>6031214
>1/48 Gnat is crap

>>6031155
But airfix is trash

>>6031264
Their panel lines may be trenches but their new kits are pretty alright

>>6031264
Its a good brand for beginners i think.
There is nothing wrong to start with a couple of cheaper builds before getting more expensive and difficult kits.

>>6031003
Why do you use a different paint type?

>>6031299
Fair enough but I can honestly say that pretty much everyone here is past beginner level

>>6031403
Because the solvents will eat into the coat below.

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anyone have recommendations for a decent camera?

>>6032495
Instead of a camera, buy proper lighting and a backdrop and learn to photograph.

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>>6032495
I like my little canon (S110). Odds are whatever mid-priced compact they have in their current lineup will be decent enough.

And don't forget Photoshop, this is just auto tone and auto color. It can help a lot.

>>6032500
I need that too

>>6032495
>>6032501
Even an expensive camera won't take good pictures in that piss poor lighting.

>>6032501
Every smartphone is able to do proper pictures if the lights and the background are good.

Get something like this if you don't have one already and you should be able to do proper pics:

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-Spong-Flexible-Mini-Tripod-Portable-Octopus-Stand-Mount-Bracket-Holder-Monopod-For-Mobile-Phones-Cameras/32635464493.html?&scm=1007.12783.35057.0

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>>6032505
>Aliexpress

>>6032507
Feel free to pay 4 times the price for the same article on amazon.

https://www.amazon.de/xhorizon-Mini-Octopus-Stil-Tripod-Halterung-Smartphone-Wireless-Fernauslöser/dp/B01D30LDR2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1479833045&sr=8-5&keywords=octopus+stativ

>>6032511
>Amazon
>>6032507

>>6032520
Try your local tech gadgets store then, online shopping doesn't seem to be your thing.

So just to cofirm, a tripod and lightbox will get me decent pics even with an iphone 6?

>>6032559
>So just to cofirm, a tripod and lightbox will get me decent pics even with an iphone 6?

If you are able to use the right camera settings and/or alter the color balance etc in photoshop: yes, absolutely.

Say I wanted to offer a resin kit for sale. Is this the appropriate method?

>design product
>3d print product
>sand/sculpt 3d print until smooth
>make mold from this master
>produce kit


I've got some ideas for some stuff I'd like to do. Maybe even a small company like IM.

>>6033357
All the resin on sale today was made from hand crafted/hand sculpted parts that were recast in resin. Commercial 3D printers can not yet print in a fine enough resolution for the fine detail on scale models.

>>6033428
It would be possible to 3d print the basic shape and add greeblies/finer detail etc I think.

I assume there are basic issues with diy casting as well but it seem like pressure casting is easy enough to rig up.

>>6033434
You could print a basic shape out of resin casting resistant material then add bits and bobs.

But then you could just whittle a material which is resin casting resistant then add bits and bobs.
Which is what they do
Because it's faster and easier

>>6033434
>it seem like pressure casting is easy enough to rig up.

For polystyrene? No. It seriously isnt. You got multi-million dollar companies which cant get it right every time, not to mention their prototyping and manufacturing cycles are months/years which gives them more time to perfect a product. They might make runs of a hundred or more just to test if one mould for one sprue fits within tolerances and failure rates.

You could try, but there is a reason why all the smaller brands resin cast.

>>6033462
Pressure casting is only for resin.

>>6033462
>For polystyrene?

>>6033357
>Say I wanted to offer a resin kit

I dunno

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>>6031009
Trailer and base.

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>>6032507
>being a good goy
Literally everything made in China that you can buy locally you can buy on Aliexpress cheaper and with free shipping.

>>6034335
>buying Chinese junk

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>>6034335

>>6033746
Looks cool. Nice to see such smaller kits get some love too.

Can you attach and detach the gun from the trailer?

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I made this Kyūshū J7W1 Shinden but with the paint job of the fortune hunters from the crimson sky games what do you think?

>>6034359
Pretty neat.

>>6034357
Yes. The gun platform hooks onto the trailer in the front and snaps into place in the rear corners. Parts of the gun stick over the trailer, but the gun just sits in the hole, free to move.

>>6034359
Its been ages since i played Crimson Sky so i can't comment on accuracy of the paintjob, but the plane looks nice.

Thats Tamiya 1/48?

>>6034372
Tamiya never made a 1/48 Shinden; probably Hasegawa.

>>6034374
I see. The standing pilot mini made me think about Tamiya.

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>>6034374
yeah it's Hasegawa 1:48 Scale "Kyushu J7W Shinden" Model Kit they are pretty cheap on amazon

>>6034359
>>6034433
Looks decent. Pretty basic. Just masked and painted from the looks of it. How many models have you built?

>>6034451
yeah I am no expert I have just made a couple it's a casual hobby, you know.

>>6034461
Did you use spray cans or do you have an airbrush?

>>6034481
spray cans 3 cans of Tamiya TS18 Metallic Red ad one can of humbrol gloss black spray.

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>>6033746
This might be going on hold. I might need a soldering iron to assemble the gun shield.

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>>6033746
>>6034534
Thats the flak gun from James Ryan, right?

>>6034540
No, it's a 37mm Flak 43. That's a 20mm Flak 38.

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>>6034534
CA should hold it together. Not looking forward to making the hinges.

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Wasn't going to build anything until I got properly settled in but I couldn't resist when the kit was only about 7$.
Will mostly be an experimental build since I'm not used to the colors here in Japan (I've only used Humbrol enamels before).

Does acrylic primer actually work?

>>6035110
No. Ignore the shills.

>>6035110
I prefer lacquers honestly, I can't really speak for acrylics though as I've never actually used them before. Lacquers adhere best to plastics though, because the thinner actually "bites" into the plastic by dissolving the uppermost layer, allowing the pigments to adhere better than acrylics.

>>6035110
>acrylic "primer"
laughingpaulbudzik.jpg

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https://www.scalemates.com/kits/103875-tamiya-35138-t-34-85

Never built a model before anons. Could I start with this/is this a quality piece? Most of the guides I've read say for novices to avoid tanks but it's what I wanna build yknow

>>6035110
For me they work well, but If for some reason you didn't make the model good enough to prime and still need to sand then they are "shit" even if it's not the fault of the primer itself
>>6035511
Who says that noobs shouldn't buy tanks if that's what they want to build? I mean, if you like afvs you wouldn't start with a fucking ship.
I can't say anything about that kit as I've never build it, but any of the tamiya kits are a good starting point if you buy them cheap. I've said this some threads ago but their sdkfz 222 (an armored car) is a nice little kit and has some PE and metal barrel, it's quick to build and cheap per se. Also their m41 and pzII are beginner friendly and extremely cheap in most places I've seen.
Overall the only problems with tamiya are old releases that lack the detail and finesse of today's kits and the high price of said kits compared to newer and better renditions. So if you can get them cheap go for it, but for example don't buy their tiger 1 straight away as it will be a waste, save it for later.
Also the trumpeter btr 80 as your fourth or fifth kit is what I would recommend you to get more experience with other brands than tamiya.

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>>6035529
Thanks for the advice lad. I'm just a bit nervous about fucking up my first kit and then having no confidence to try again. I have never painted a model before and have nobody to show or guide me IRL. I'm sure I could put it together okay, but it is the painting I am nervous about.

I'm quite set on this specific tank. It's good to know Tamiya are generally thought of as quality. I shall try your suggested kits after I build the t-34.

This is a very comfy general btw, I like its slow pace and actual discussion.

>1/32 Italeri F-86F "Skyblazers" for 20€
Should I?

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Restarting my workable track build

>>6035602
What are you building? I don't think I've seen you before

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>>6035604
I'm new to this thread

Building a tamiya tiger mid production

>>6035511
If you've not done anything like this before, I'd recommend starting with one of the more basic Tamiya kits. I'm not sure what that T-34/85 is like, but I got their M41 Walker Bulldog a while back, and it's an incredibly easy build, that would be a good introduction to the hobby.

>>6035121
>>6035322
>>6035351
so, what brand of primer do you guys recommend?

>>6035511
Nothing wrong with tanks for a beginner. In fact, a tank is a way more forgiving kit than a car or a plane i think.
If you do mistakes you can cover them with mud or hide them as "battle damage".

The old Tamiya kits are a bit dated and lack some details when compared to modern kits but they are cheap and not overly complex and therefore very beginner-friendly. A very good point to start into this hobby.

>>6035651
I use Vallejo "Surface Primer" in either black, grey or dark yellow.

I also have a couple of Army Painter spray cans, but rarely use them these days because i don't have a balcony in my new apartment and going outside to spray is always a hassle. Never had problems with them though.

>>6035657
I too use Vallejo's polyurethane primers, although having just got my first Harder & Steenbeck airbrush I'm finding it somewhat more prone to clogging on the needle. I know it's designed to be used right out of the bottle, and I've had no issues doing so in the past, but I feel as though my cheap Chinese airbrush dealt with it far better than the expensive German one... So far, the only thing I've managed to do with it and be pleased with was clean it easily. I'm finding the lack of a trigger lock (the device to prevent over-spraying?) a hindrance, and having to thin my paints differently is taking some getting used to.

>>6035511
Even the ones that tamiya made during the 1990's are considerably cheap

Their Panzer 4 ausf h's costs around $20 and an easy assembly

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>>6035680

>>6035651
Tamiya and Alclad. Love the Alclad.

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>>6035690
Sand it and that's how you make a workable track from single link or 'magic tracks' tracks. Trade money for time though

>>6035704
Why did you buy a Tamiya Tiger?

>>6035709
The dragon ones that are available at our local hobby shop are using DS tracks

Single band tracks are an instant bone killer for me

>>6035680
>actually making putting together the tracks an even bigger pain in the ass
Seeing this and imagining all the work almost gave me ADD. Really cool though.

>>6035690
What are you using to hold them together, is that just copper wire?

>>6035651
Tamiya and mr. Surfacer.

New thread:
>>6035862
>>6035862
>>6035862