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>>6013287

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So I have a few questions, first up is pic related.

I want a GOOD and DECENT representation of optimus prime but in DELUXE size (since I have a megatron in everysize), yes I have a g1 bias but to give you an idea of how open I am the megatron from cybertron makes for a fine generations galvatron, so any good looking deluxe optimus, please steer me in the right direction if you please.

The second is harder, I'm also a seeker fag, I have all current hasbro mp11 molds, but I also want the coronation set for starscream, should I jump some hurdles and buy the reissue of the takara mp11 and sell off my hasbro crew (even though a takara sunstorm would rape my wallet), keep a second almost identical starscream just for his cape, or can anyone point me to a stand alone cape and crown?

I have been told the 3rd party set intended for mp03 works, but seeing how the heads are different the crown wouldn't work now would it?

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CW Liokaiser is up on EE now, w/ a coupon code and G1 diorama thrown in as well. http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB6639&id=CA-108078943

Anyone going for it? The deluxes look pretty sweet, despite Sky Lynx being so weird as the main 'bot

>>6015013
WFC Optimus not good enough I'm guessing?

>>6015016
That diorama looks pretty cool, but I can't justify spending $100 on another CW set.

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>>6015013
Which Optimous is this? I'm trying to look for a good one to display until I can afford a Masterpiece.

>>6015016
Diorama what?

>>6015020
Those deluxes are cool but the skylynx repaint is meh. Wil wait for the takara version

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>>6015013

War for Cybertron, Generations Orion Pax, Armada Supercon/Deluxe (aka Bendy Prime) are good Primes at that size

>>6015026
WFC prime is also quite tall for a deluxe

>>6015021

It's either a knock off Classics voyager Prime, or the redeco that came packaged with FOC Grimlock, exclusive to Target. They were done up in shiny bits, didn't look too hot really.

There are tons and tons of decos of that mold. Look it into and pick whichever you prefer. It's really good. People hate the "forearm kibble" but that's about the only thing holding it back.

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>>6015021
SOMEONE BETTER ANSWER

>>6015021
That's Henkei Optimus.

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>>6015017
>wfc optimus

Oh shit I forgot about him, now that you mention him is it worth tracking down the takara version or would I be fine with the hasbro one?

>>6015021
"classics" optimus, the specific one is from the evolutions 2 pack with an evasion mode optimus, I got it because fuck the matching henkei version to match my henkei megatron.

There is a more recent 2 pack of both from the platinum editions but its not...that great

>>6015026
cheers, wait that armada optimus is deluxe sized?

Fuck I loved that guy, are they cheap?

>>6015028
>knock off

LOL no it was left over factory stock sitting in hasbro australia's warehouse that got sent off to toyworld, got it for $50, better than $100 tru was asking back in the day

>>6015030
Sorry my net is shit cuz 'stralya

>>6015032
incorrect but its pretty close, henkei has painted cab lights

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>>6015032

Nah, Henkei Convoy looks way better. Look-a-hurr

>>6015034
I'm personally happy with the Hasbro WFC Optimus. But I think there was an oversized KO of him that also comes in some neat color variations.

>>6015034
>>6015036
Oh. I could've sworn Henkei Prime had chrome thighs. Did I just find another Mandela Effect?

>>6015039

Pretty sure that KO WFC Optimus is loose as hell. Plus, I never trust KO plastic, who knows how toxic that shit could be.

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>>6015039
I've seen the ko's, tempting they are but I already have a good voyager on hand.

>>6015041
I thought so too which is why I was content using the evolutions version as a stand in, I know he does have a chromed truck front.

But seriously mandarake wants 13kyen for that one, and I got the evolution 2 pack for $50aud brand new, it has chrome, works for me, to fool people into thinking otherwise means it's made its mark as a stand in for the henkei

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>>6015041
No, you're just misremembing since Henkei had chrome and that Prime has chrome.

The chrome thighs is strictly an Age of Extinction one that I think was only sold at Target?

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>>6015041

Yes.

And don't sweat it. There have been so many fucking versions of that mold, it's hard to keep track.

I really like the Cloud version. Basically recreates the cartoon colors.

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Newfag to Transformers here, had some gifted to me in 2010 and since I was younger I didn't care take proper care of them and donated them about 2 weeks ago. I want to start collecting Transformers really badly; what would be the best way to start? I love the G1 series but they're simply too expensive.

Me personally, I thought about starting with the 5.5" scale figures. Thoughts?

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>>6015050
>best way to start

If you have a budget, stick to any and all newer toys from the current generations titan masters or combiner wars lines, the "deluxes" (which are the same size as what you posted) are generally good though with the combiner wars line there is alot of obvious reuse where's the newer titan masters line is less apparent depending on which you buy.

If you are willing to bid on ebay you have lots of options, if you know any characters simple type their names into the transformers wikia, look for a toy section (or scroll down to the bottom if the entry is small enough to accommodate that) and have a gander, then watch some reviews and go from there.

If you want g1 faithfulness and are willing to pay alot then stick to the masterpiece line but perhaps make one-2 purchases a year on characters are actually know, don't be like me and try and buy all the masterpiece jet transformers in one year, it fucking hurts (but I don't regret it, just my wallet)

>>6015050

If you want to buy Transformers on the cheap, patience pays off. Hang around boards (and here obviously) and you'll inevitably catch wind of all the sales and what not. At random times, Walmart's site or Amazon might throw up crazy discounts.

Lots of TF toys also turn up at stores like Ross, Marshalls, and TJ Maxx months later for significantly less than the original price. Combiner Wars voyagers were $25 US retail, and several of them can now be found for $10-$13 in those stores.

Sometimes shit that's hard to find because it was released at the tail end of a line even ends up there, hilariously after lots of people panic and give in to crazy ebay prices.

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>>6015013

Also honorable mention to Fall of Cybertron Generations Prime and Animated deluxe Optimus. Appreciation of the aesthetics varies, but they're just fun as fuck to pose. There's also an Earth mode of the Animated one that looks way more like the G1 design, but the Hasbro one has battle damage and the Takara one is probably expensive now.

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>>6015053
An earthmode of the animated price, I thought he only came in the one flavor?

...was there a cybertronian version I'm not aware of?

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Yes, I'm aware its statueshit, and the price is gonna be painful.

But who wanted a hairy primal that looked decent?

And by decent I mean via opinion, no shit not everyone will like over priced statueshit that's stylized

>>6015058
Earth mode animated prime came in a 2 pack with deluxe Megatron with a DVD.

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>>6015058

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Thanks for the help guys, just purchased my first Transformers set ever for $30.00. Definitely going to look into other figures in the same scale. Can't wait to transform these guys!

>>6015060
>>6015062
Ah I see, cheers guys!

>>6015065

Those are a quirky pair to start with, but they have their positives. Just remember that it does get better. Tons of rad toys in this franchise.

>>6015065
People can be quite polarized on the 2 you bought but if you can find love then great, I got the "special edition" of that megatron in his more g1 color deco and I like what they tried to do, don't have that optimus and I dislike the truck mode, but the bot mode screams g1.

Hope they go well for you anon!

>>6015070
Thank you, I'll try and post some pictures when they arrive.

>>6015068
Yeah, I guess I have a weird taste. This version of Optimous Prime and Megatron just looked really appealing to me.

>>6015050
This holiday season will probably be your last chance to get a set of Combiner Wars on the cheap. I didn't like the look of a lot of the individual toys at first, but I really think it's something you shouldn't miss out on.

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Combiner-Computron-Collection/dp/B011MIX0CI/ref=sxts_k2p_hero1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2668835602&pd_rd_wg=nxaeB&pf_rd_r=M64K6GTYVS2QVQ5C2X8N&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-top-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B011MIX0CI&pd_rd_w=YsKLu&pf_rd_i=computron&pd_rd_r=8TMH2TZVEBZZZKEBY121&ie=UTF8&qid=1478865342&sr=1

Try to ask before you buy anything. A lot of toys lately have had shitty QC problems.

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>>6015053
I don't like the FoC one as Optimus, but the extra weapon that came with the Magnus version made it a pretty nice toy.

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>>6015073
Thanks, and I'll ask questions next time for sure before buying anything. I did research this set and it did seem like a hit or miss. The reviews I have been watching have promising feedback though.

>>6015073
>This holiday season will probably be your last chance to get a set of Combiner Wars on the cheap

Yeah, hit up Marshalls and you may find the G2 Giftsets for like $35. Ridiculously good price for 4 deluxes, 1 voyager, and a legend. I know most don't want those color schemes but goddamn.

>>6015078
Never got the G2 Superion but the Silverbolt hand breaking thing sounds like a deal breaker.

I mean it's still a damn fine price even if it's just 4 deluxes plus Powerglide, but I'll pass on it personally.

>>6015080

There are usually enough "mine is fine" reports to justify a gamble on QC if there's a cheap enough price - but that's me. Totally get being cautious. There are more important things to do with money in life for sure.

Only QC issue I ever really ran into was one of those many Ruination redeco sets from back in the day. The grey camo one. I had it sealed for years, eventually said fuck it and opened it. Two left combiner fists. It was actually kind of funny.

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>>6015078

Thoughts on Combiner Wars Prowl?
Might make a second purchase

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I interrupt this quiet thread to show tf_pr's latest post, legends highbrow.

Does takara win again, well no, the head is based on obscure angles from the show and was chosen simply so its more than a simple block head like most appearances had him cast as, if anything apart from *MAYBE* the head sitting up too high (I seen the retail highbrows in hand) the hasbro version is fine.

I'm only stuck with this one because once I buy into a "set" I need to complete it within the same line, really the hasbro one has a better deco and the head isn't as bug eye'd, for die hards of japanese headmasters and completionist like myself only.

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>>6015107
He's a variant of the "dead end" mold, specifically a newhead retool of streetwise, he does the job fine since the car kinda homages a nissan Z but you can't help but feel he was a cheap cash in of the mold, a problem for those who bought multiple sets like myself.

So yeah, he's solid but he's from a toy that's been reused a fair bit

>>6015110
The deco looks nice but his goggles are a little too big.

Either way though I don't think I'm picking up the Highbrow tooling. The copter looks too blocky for my taste (especially from above).

>>6015107

Good mold despite being overused. He can be found on sale easily so go for it. Probably the best G1 inspired Prowl outside of the Masterpiece.

>>6015107
He has a handsome headsculpt. Very solid toy if you don't mind that he doesn't have his iconic hood chest or door wings.

Despite that he's better than the Universe Prowl that did do those things.

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>>6015002
Oh hey, new RID product renders.

Let me get this one out of the way; it's the first time they've announced Legion Starscream but he has already popped up in Austrailia.

Ben Fischben

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>>6015131
>Behind the high council on Cybertron, sits evil mastermind Cyclonus. Using his mind-controlling power, the rogue Decepticon schemes to brainwash every bot on the planet if that’s what it takes to fulfill his devious plans for Cybertron and the galaxy.

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>>6015133
The only thing Decepticons can use to catch Blurr is the trail of dust that follow. The Autobot is a supersonic data messenger with a knack for delivering parcels of information in a matter of nanokliks. When the Autobots need to send vital intel from one base to another, they look to Blurr to get the job done.

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>>6015134
Can anyone tell if he has a different deco from the TRU release?

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Nippon review of TakaraTomy's new not-transformer for this month, Rescue Backdraft and Fire Truck. Fire Truck.
https://youtu.be/4f4dJAt5fTM

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>>6015135

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>>6015135
>Fortunately for the Autobots, Skywarp is the only known Decepticon with the ability to teleport. As one of the sneakiest Decepticons in the universe, he has a knack for playing cruel pranks, including a few on his fellow Decepticons. Skywarp may not be the sharpest bot on the ship, but he attacks like fire, disappearing, and then reappearing out of nowhere to ambush the Autobots.

>Decepticon Bludgeon is a dangerous and masterful warrior. Sharp as a knife on the battlefield, the ferocious samurai uses his mighty swords to pull off the ultimate surprise ambush on the Autobots.

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>>6015139
>As Autobot Twinferno might say, “Great minds think alike”– at least when it comes to destroying Decepticons. The flying warrior has two minds that barely agree on anything, but that only fuels his fire for demolishing the enemy. When Autobot Twinferno is in dragon mode, he breathes fire from two heads. It’s double the trouble for the Decepticons!

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>>6015140
And last but not least:
>Soundwave is the ultimate spy and communications specialist, capable of scanning and decoding any radio signal within range. Using radio waves to monitor the Autobots and their plans, Soundwave locates the enemy and informs the Decepticons of their whereabouts. Dedicated and devoted to the cause, Soundwave has quickly moved up the Decepticon ranks.

>>6015065
Aww, sorry about that. For what it's worth, I actually like that Megatron, I've got the Special Edition version, but the arm really does dock major points, for me anyways.

Don't have that Prime though.

>>6015142
So I guess he gets out of the Shadowzone again.

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>>6015139
>>6015142

Holy mother of god

>>6015139
Sometimes I wish there were alternate interpretations of Bludgeon, such as being a pirate, or some kind of voodoo witch doctor.

>>6015136
I'd be all over this if the fire truck integrated better. Having most of it stay off and store the other arms seems like a waste when it could've turned into something like boots.

>>6015059
Gorilla fur doesn't look like this. This looks like yak fur.

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>>6015191
I would rather there were just more Pretender homage characters. Most of the Decepticon Pretenders would actually fit into RID15 just fine. Their mutant shells would make for animalistic robot modes, which is a design choice that most of the show's Decepticons share.

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Anons, I bring news of ko's, first up for whatever bizarre reason they're giving us a ko of the mp03 mold, brace yourselves, but the best part which some of you might like...

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IS A STARSCREAM AS BIG AS HIS EGO!

Sadly no word on the manufacture, good chance its not one of the mpp creations so tread carefully

>>6015197
Who wants upscaled Starscreams in the MP-03 deco?

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>>6015199
FUCKING ME PLEASE

>>6015198
It obviously isn't the mp-03 mold.

>>6015202
My source only confirmed an upscaled starscream ko was being made and that the mp03's were being ko'd, the point of my post was to warn potential mp03 seekers of bootlegs (you know, loyalist and those avoiding paying too much) and for those who simply want a really big starscream.

We know mp grimlock could of been bigger but he ain't that small compared to the mp11/mp03 mold, I do quite like the coloring personally but since its not an weijang mpp I'll await reviews since the only "good" ko's are the bbq/bb7 seekers currently as all others are floppy or have the back brake section modified which looks hideous

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>>6015139
That's my boy

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>>6015217
Hasbro's social media people seem fun.

>>6015013
Armada Bendy Prime
God I love that mold with a passion

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>new tru opening up
>very few stores have gotten past the previous rid2015 tru exclusives
>really want a paralon
>the store is miles away

Should I drive 44mins to a place I've never been too for a chance or is this a stupid choice, my nearest tru's pegs are full of fucking primes and bee's

>>6015228
You could just call and ask?

>>6015247
I...I should, thank you, I just hope they answer their phones unlike other closer stores lately.

3 tru's in a day is pathetic all because they wouldn't answer their phones

>>6015249
Eh, we've all been there. Wasting too much time driving around trying to find a specific piece of plastic and wondering what you're doing with your life.

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>>6015251
Good to know I'm not alone in this, whelp lets hope they aren't too busy face painting on opening day to answer a phone

What are some the biggest must have Minicons?

>>6015257
Leader Class Corpse Armor is the biggest minicon you can get.

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>>6015257
Maybe the Energon Saber from Energon and Dark Matter Calibur from TFP:Arms Micron because they form kickass swords.

Other than those, I don't think any minicon is a "must have"

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>>6015013
The alt mode looks meh, but it's a great G1 at Deluxe size.

>>6015074
Combine the weapons if you haven't already.

>>6015257
In American tems, the Centurion components. In Japan, it's probably the arms micron.

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>>6015139
>>6015140
>>6015142

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Did anyone else expect nothing of value to come out of the kids show line at all? Instead I got a sweet new Scorponok and a while slew of new and interesting molds incoming.

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>>6015257
I'd say anyone who enjoys Mini-Cons should have at least one of the Mini-Con partners from the Power Core Combiners line.

>>6015142
Cool, open hands
WfC inspired design
non-hollow legs
sweet TFP facesculpt
G1 style shoulder cannon

If his chest could open he'd be 10/10

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>>6015305
>the show's toyline made up of mostly x-steps
>endless camo redecos in any subline
>the cartoon designs are hard enough as it is to translate into transforming toys
>Hasbro seemingly further lowering the budget and having to rename their downgraded Deluxe line
The odds did seem stacked heavily against the line in the beginning.

The designers have found their footing though, and now every new figure is a good one. These homage figures would even look fine sitting in someone's neo-Classics collection. Who knew?

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>>6015319
And this was what the initial offerings of Decepticons was like

>>6015321
these aren't deluxes right ?

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Post your collection lads

>>6015142
Holy crap. Sorry TFP Soundwave, you might be being replaced. Or at least delegated to "new character" staus.

I just hope his hands are 5mm.

>>6015331
Steeljaw is a Warrior, the not-Deluxe size. the other two are 1-step, but they recently got Warrior figures too. Fracture is amazing.

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Somebody last night asked me if I was serious about making a toupee for my Sentinel Trump. I was.

Granted it was made of paper but hey.

>>6015280
I love that gun. Ended up giving it to RTS prime.

>>6015198
>Voyager seekers never ever

>>6015347
U forgot his signs with his slogan on them

>>6015110
>they could give Vortex 4 blades
>but they couldn't spare the plastic for a 3rd for Highbrow
>and they still probably don't fold up, which is a goddamn mystery as to why given it's not like making them fold would've cost anything else on either version

Why do companies do weird shit like this.

>>6015339
Don't worry, 5mm pegholes have been the standard on all Warrior toys with hands.

>>6015357
Muh safety reasons

>>6015357
They put more budget into UW, clearly. They only poured enough into their Headmasters releases retool face panels and the few parts they changed on Ginrai.

I guess there's more leeway when you're doing boxsets (just look at the expense Hasbro spared for Vicky, Computron, and Liokaiser).

>>6015357
Funny thing is, the way the blades attach implies that's what they were going for, allowing them to fold up into a U shape and giving the arms way more clearance. For some reason they then made that impossible without modding, no idea why.

>>6015364
*poured enough money into their Headmasters releases to retool [...]

Welp, I don't have my head on (!) tonight.

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>>6015347
How would Sentinel Trump solve #Metroplexit ?

>>6015364
They actually changed a fair bit on Ginrai:

-New face for Headmaster
-New chest piece
-Front of cab is based on the G1 vehicle mode
-Neck for the Headmaster port was extended
-New guns
-New forearms and hands that are 5mm compatible
-New feet
-New thighs
-All around better colorscheme (the red on PMOP is too washed out, and the gray they used is just awful).

I honestly thought they'd just release POMP with different colors and a new HM face, but they poured a lot more than I expected. Is Ginrai that popular over there?

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>>6015373
Popular enough

>>6015140
I can't believe Doublecross of all bots is getting so much push all of a sudden.

>>6015380
Minerva is cute! CUTE!

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Will there ever be an official legends-class as GOAT as Shockwave?

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He's so expressive and posable.

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Also, any other CNY anons experiencing our yearly leafpocalypse?

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>>6015398
>six trees in my backyard
>haven't had a single day this month where I wasn't raking

snow can't come fast enough

>>6015024
>Wil wait for the takara version

Takara skipped him and released Baldigus instead.

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So what's the best version of Waspinator? I'm considering these four molds:
>Generations Waspinator: Great bot mode, kinda questionable wasp mode. Prone to breakage alledgedly.
>Animated Waspinator: Would go well with my Animated Blackarachnia, looks pretty cool. I don't know much about the mold though.
>Transmetal Waspinator: Looks awesome, can turn into a jet, available in two pretty sweet colour schemes, cheap on eBay. Chrome could be prone to flaking due to age.
>Original BW Waspinator: Actually has better wasp mode than the Generations figure. Mutant head gimmick is kinda dumb.

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>>6015395

Honestly most of the Legends are pretty good. They're probably the most consistent size class in terms of quality.

>>6015412
Honestly, Waspinator's never had a bad toy imo. They're all very solid for what they are.

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>>6015412
This combination is the best version.

>>6015422
I've always thought there's a good potential for a Tarantulas custom in that Thrust.

>>6015418
That's good to hear. I'm tempted by the TM version actually, followed by the Animated version.

>>6015422
Heh heh. Is BM Thrust a good toy, incidentally? He looks pretty cool, even if he's totally inaccurate to the show model.

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>>6015134
Would've preferred him in his Rescue Bot colors.

>>6015463
I haven't seen Rescue bots, but how does this work? I thought it took place around the same time as Prime, and RID takes place many years into the future.

>>6015472
I don't watch it either, but from tfwiki, one of the episodes guest stars Bumblebee, who confirms that RID takes place around three years after TFP.

A later episode has Sideswipe and a rogue cyclone minicon. Blurr expresses interest in joining team Bee in that episode.

>>6015484
3 years? People in RID act like it's been at least a decade or two.

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>Continuity

>>6015494
Yeah I'm not really convinced either but at least the Prime-RB-RiD links seem more consistent than other stuff in the aligned "continuity"

Liokaiser is an amazing set. I think it's the best set released in Combiner Wars. Both tanks are well done, both jets are well done. Dezarus is Evil Skylynx after not having a new G1 Skylynx toy since G1 they belt out CW Skylynx and an Awesome Decepticon Retool within a short period of time.

Yeah there's no turqouise jet or black dune buggy but Dezarus makes up for both of time well enough.

>>6015139
That's cool. Is he released?

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>>6015516
>Yeah there's no turqouise jet or black dune buggy but Dezarus makes up for both of time well enough.

If you don't really care about the characters sure, but as a Victory babby the lack of this smug mofo doesn't feel right to me.

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>>6015523

Your only choices are to wait and see what Takara does, or go for the 3P Liokaiser.

>>6015524
>Your only choices are to wait and see what Takara does

I'm curious about this, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>6015532

Honestly, at worst I'm expecting another Superion mold body and the Liokaiser drilltank being the Computron retool drill while the other is the Brawl mold, while at best they harvest all the money saved from the upcoming repaints and go full retard and make a combining, all new body bot for the two missing members.

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Surely there will be another decent G1 Ratchet soon, r-right?

>>6015541

That looks pretty nice as a UW/CW Ratchet.

Also the MP, man.

>>6015536
>another Superion mold body and the Liokaiser drilltank being the Computron retool drill while the other is the Brawl mold

That's what I'm expecting too, but if they go the extra mile and release new molds for the body part they have my money.

>>6015541
It's that or RID15 Ratchet.

>>6015545

Well, that might be why they're doing almost nothing but repaints now for the past few releases. Making a new Ratchet head and the retools for Computron couldn't have cost them that much. Baldigus is a straight up repaint, so is Megawaifu.

Maybe they're just saving budget for a big surprise with Liokaiser.

>>6015556
Japan does love Liokaiser. I could see two new deluxes forming a torso.

Takara Liokaiser will just be stupid superion body and fucking non-combining Blackjack which will pass for car guy.

Takara Drill tank leg possible, but the US version equipped with the cannons on the side resembles a warhammer 40k tank. It's amazing what a few guns will do.

>>6015569

Like I said, could be going that way as well. It wouldn't be a bad way either, the Superion mold is pretty hard to fuck up so even if they did that it'd be a good base body.

>>6015412

Clearly the generations. BW mold ruins the wasp mode with the damn legs.

>>6015556
They didn't need to make a new Ratchet head, that head was already available for the mold, but wasn't released normally (only used in the Botcon custom class, and only because they had no other choice).

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>>6015412
There's also the 10th anniversary Waspinator that comes with a bonus Transmutate head.

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>>6015630
This also happen to be one of my favorite figures, so I'm pretty biased.

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>>6015002

>>6015412
>Mutant head gimick is kinda dumb

Shut your mouth. It gives Waspinator the better head. It's going to be terrible that any Masterpiece Waspinator is going to use that horrible show accuracy and not give us the superior face sculpt.

>>6015380
Why does Optimus Prime have a loli?

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>>6015721

Because girls love big trucks.

>>6015395
>>6015396
>>6015398
Legends Shockwave is like a god among peasants.
Only other legends figure that comes close to me is Powerglide, though his lack of a bicep swivel kind of spoils him for me. I'd really like to buy a second one of him to attempt to mod just a little bit more articulation into.

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Is it worth it?

>>6015766

Sunstreaker is kind of meh. He's made from an "eh" mold and he's a really shitty feeling plastic.

Mirage is good but if you sperg over him not having the racecar front as a chest, you won't like him.

Prowl is great, but it's a Deadend remold and you might have like 30 of those already by the time you're done nabbing combiners.

>>6015773
I'm new to collecting Transformers, I really like the G1 versions, these would be my second purchase. My first being the Optimous and Megatron battle pack.

>>6015780

Well, if you're looking for a cheap purchase just to begin collecting, I'd say nab Mirage and Prowl. Sunstreaker is really just meh all around, unless you really like the guy I'd say skip him.

If you're wanting something "Just perfect" though, I'd point you towards the Masterpiece line, but I dunno if someone new to collecting anything is going to want to see $85+ price tags for everything.

>>6015782
That's why I'm starting with Combiner and Generations, going to see how these turn out and if I like them, I'll move onto Masterpiece.

>>6015569
I mean do we even need jaruga he just forms the crotch. not like he was as interesting as the other breast force members

>>6015773
Thanks for the advice! Going with Mirage and Prowl. What are some good G1 influenced molded Decepticon's in the Combiner Wars?

>>6015766
They can be found at discounters like marshalls and tjmaxx. I bought entire limb sets for less than 45.

>>6015805

Everything in the Generations line is mostly G1 influenced, and Combiner Wars is no different.

As for solid Decepticons in the line, pretty much all of Bruticus/The Combaticons are good except for two issues, those being Vortex's handfootgun port is really shitty and will probably stress and crack unless you sand it, and it might crack even then, which is a fault of him being the CW Heli mold, all of that mold suffer from this, it's an inherent design flaw. The second issue is Brawl's waist tab might not hold too well, which is a QC issue. Some have issues with it, some don't. Mine doesn't.

I would also say definite check out the current line, Titans Return too. Apart from some QC issues, the Deluxes there are all pretty damn fun.

>>6015766
>$16.99
Holy-
Why do we have to pay 22-30€ in yurope ???

>>6015820

Same reason you guys get blasted in the asshole on game prices and everything else.

Because they can.

>>6015820
Extra vowel tax. If you didn't pay it, the UK would force Hasbro to rename the brand Transfourmers.

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You guys should recommend me some Generations / Combiner Wars Deceptions; looking for ones in Megatron's G1 team.

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>>6015805

Also here, have a shitty pic of the Combaticons since I have them all on my desk as I was doing a bit of messing with them today.

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>>6015832

See >>6015812

Also pretty much anything from Titans Return that isn't Galvatron.

>>6015834
WOW, are these the combat icons?

>>6015832
Hasbrotoyshop has the Leader Class figures from CW on clearance, so you can get Starscream and Skywarp at a reduced price if you're on a budget.

Man Astrotrain is hard to find, got lucky to find Alpha Trion today.

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>>6015843

Yes.

You could also look for Fruiticus here if you happen to like G2 color schemes, though he has some additional QC problems supposedly.

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Is this a good set?

>>6015862
Onslaught has an issue with the leg mechanism. I actually don't have this version so I can't confirm it.

If you must have it, I recommend you check out Amazon every day since they recently lowered that set to 65, and it might drop to that amount again.

>>6015862

I've heard the yellow plastic they used on Onslaught isn't the greatest, seems to be a trend with a lot of yellow plastics. Also I remember hearing Onslaught also had some sort of locking problem with his knees in that version.

You also might be able to get it for MUCH cheaper, the G2 sets I've seen go for as low as $40 so far.

>>6015867
>I've seen go for as low as $40 so far.

Those are just the Aerialbots and Stunticons, which only showed up in TJmaxx. The lowest I've seen the sets go online is 30 on Hasbro Toy Shop, and they sold out almost immediately.

>>6015867
Alright, what is the best place to buy Transformers for a cheap price with a bulk quantity.

>>6015870

As with any sort of online buying, you've gotta shop around. At the very least check eBay, Amazon, Walmart, Target.

>>6015870
They have the Bruticus team (without shockwave) for 60 on ebay and free shipping. Go for it.

>>6015859
I thought 'Fruiticus' referred to the retail FOC Combaticons, and that G2 was always Dudicus.

>>6015891
I'll check it out, thanks for informing me. Not sure if I'll pick it up but I'll definitely consider it, waiting for my battle pack to arrive before I plan on investing more into Transformers, they look awesome and promising though.

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>>6015937

Yeah, the last two lines (Combiner/Unite Wars and Titans Return) have been pretty good. CW saw a ton of re-used molds, but thats mostly because every Deluxe had to function as a robot, vehicle, arm, AND leg. Despite that, everything turned out pretty good except for Menasor (who usually needs a 3rd party addon kit to not look weird when combined).

Titans Return has been plagued with QC issues likely as a result of them moving their factories recently, but beyond the QC, the actual molds themselves have been pretty good, and just making 'bots with removeable heads is a Hell of a lot less "intrusive" of a gimmick than forcing every Deluxe to be a 'bot, vehicle, arm, and leg all in one.

I can get a UW Computron for 118 plus 30 shipping. Do I take it? Is there a good chance the set might drop to 130 with shipping?

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>>6015957

Buy it right now.

>>6015135
Nobody cares, Nevermore.

Is TR mindwipe worth hunting down? I saw the 2 non beast wave 2 deluxes at my wal mart last night and already have a weird wolf in the mail. I was iffy on MW, but having skull and wolf kind of makes me just wanna say fuck it and get him to complete the trio.

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>>6015975

He's a pretty cool dude.

>>6015975
He's literally the best figure in his wave. Wings have fantastic articulation, and his robot mode is posable as fuck. If it weren't for the rubbler, he'd be one of my favorite toys ever.

>>6015979
>>6015980
It's just his bot mode looks so bland to me. Not boring. Just bland. If I find him in person, especially with holiday wal mart deluxe prices, I'll go for it. I didn't think I was gonna get chromedome but he looks way better in person and $10 ain't bad.

>>6015832
Well you can get the seekers and Soundwave all at leader size

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>>6015988

But what is a 'bot mode? A miserable pile of t-cogs!

>>6015862
Yes but wait till black Friday to see if they deep discount it

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Got a loose UW WHeeljack from a friend and ended up liking him much more than I thought. Way more than the Classics version. Tried figuring out something to make him more G1 and got this.

>>6016008
Why'd he give you UW Wheeljack? Sets already pretty expensive and he gave it too you?

>>6016013
I bought it from him. He buys doubles in case of QC issues and combines the best parts. Resales the extras easy on eBay.

>>6016028
Is he the guy that keeps selling components on ebay?

>>6016035
Lots of people do that. I did that with my UW Galvatronus set. I would have done it with this set but I decided I didn't want Sky Lynx and Ratchet that badly.

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>>6015524
>>6015532

The thing about turds is that there is always more than one if you wait a while.

>>6016045
Definitely waiting on this one. It's supposed to be CW sized and if Takara doesn't make a two man torso, I'll go with this one.

>>6016158
I wonder if we're gonna get wave revisions with fixed Skullsmashers.

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>>6016158
>>6016159

>didn't care much for TR line at first
>now knee deep into it like CW

Picked up Scourge, Blurr, Hardhead, Skullcruncher, and Brainstorm so far for the deluxes and Brawn, Skytread, and Clobber for legions, and a bad decision in Galvatron for my lone Voyager so far as the only other large one around here is Creamsicle Sentinel Prime whose color scheme put me off as I'm an idiot.
The little ones are actually more fun than I anticipated, Griml.. Clobber's dino mode is cute.

How's Alpha Trion? May pick him or Astrotrain up if I see them. Want Soundwave too, but the leader class's price is making me antsy.

>>6016158
>>6016159

Such terrible jokes but I laughed anyway.

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Here's a quick collage I made of MP Primal with some of my Beast Wars collection. The expressiveness and articulation on this thing blows the LG-02 Primal completely out of the water. It scales a lot better with the other Maximals, too. I'll agree with the detractors that the elbows look like shit, but I understand why they did it. For anyone wondering that's the Hasbro Thrilling 30 Rhinox, Hasbro Generations Rattrap, Takara C-8 Tigatron, and the Henkei Dinobot and Cheetor.

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>>6016193
And here's some comparison shots I took between MP-32 Primal and LG-02 Primal

>>6016193
I just want proper new Dinobot. The 3D printed one is impressive, but needs alot more finessing for the awkward proportions

>>6016206
I love the Henkei Dinobot but I agree with you one hundred percent. The placement of the robot arms in beast mode and the small scale are incredibly frustrating. That and a lot of collectors have had trouble with the vac metallizing. I've been lucky so far with It not flaking off, but every time I touch it I cringe.

>>6016205
I'll be honest, I still kind of like the older better. Although the MP's engineering and show accuracy is very impressive.

>>6016193
>the elbows look like shit, but I understand why they did it

So... why did they do it? I honestly see no reason why they couldn't have had a piece of plastic attached to the elbow that slides into the upper or lower arm. None. These elbows were acceptable on a cheap toy in 1995. Not on a $100 MP figure.

I got my Primal a few days ago. First MP for me. Kinda disappointed. Yes, I knew about these issues beforehand, but they're more impactful than I'd have thought. Any pose I come up with just looks like shit. If the knees are bent it looks like shit. If the elbow are in view it looks like shit. Can you really call this a masterpiece if the limbs can't be posed without looking like they're not even attached?

>>6016205
>PS2 Graphics VS PS4 Graphics

Or

>Low settings VS High settings

Whatever.

>>6016008
The only people that like this mold more than the classics mold ate geewunners. Fact.

>>6016226
Show accuracy, original toy accuracy, the forearm guns. That explains the elbows, at least for me. I'll agree with you that the knees are fucked, but that's due to the transformation scheme and keeping both modes in scale, and if a team of gook engineers couldn't figure out a way to make it work better I sure as hell can't either.

As for it being an MP, I guess that comes down to preference. When I look at or pose it next to the LG-02 or other Beast Wars figures it blows them away. I own other MP's with their fare share of flaws, and with a much higher price point, so I'm choosing to enjoy it for what it is.

>>6016241
Hey, the mold isn't great, sure. But it feels a lot better as Wheeljack than the other.

>>6016226
Sliding into the lower arm would've been impossible due to the arm cannons, and the upper arm has the rotating circular piece. Making it more like the show would've meant limiting elbow articulation to 90 degrees, or having to scoop out some of the forearm to allow it to bend further than 90.

Maybe on a bigger figure these issues could've been avoided, but that might've killed our chances at getting an MP Megatron or Dinobot due to the size being too big for what takara is willing to sell.

>>6016257
They're both like almost good enough, but in different ways. The CW one is definitely the best use of that mold. I like both and have both but man, I'd like just one more shot at new Wheeljack. Or just scale down the MP.

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>>6016241
Or they just like it
I love this WJ mold but most would disagree that it's good mold.

>>6016271
I've actually been eyeing that one just for completion's sake I guess. How is he?

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i prefer the official head but someone mentioned this mold could work as a classics soundwave

>>6016287
He's solid and heavy but his legs suck balls because of the combining gimmick. I have him for my WJ collection as well.

>>6016289
I kind of wish he didn't have that shoulder kibble, but it could be way worse.

>>6016287
One of the less ugly powerlinx toys

>>6016287
Solid toy good transformation, good sculpt. Subpar articulation due to the combiner gimmick

>>6016289
I argue that's a stretch. He is way to stylized for it to work.

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>>6015785
Go with the Universe 2008 Sunstreaker if you're looking for one. It's the better toy IMO.

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>>6015050
how much money do you have to spend?

>>6016193
>>6016205
What's with the oval shaped hole on his left arm?

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Nobody can stop my magnificant wall!

>>6016355

It's to push out his forearm guns I believe.

>>6015021
Looks like the TRU exclusive two-pack they had of that Prime and AoE Voyager Prime.

>>6016355
Pretty sure that's there so air pressure resistance isn't too strong when you open that panel to release the wrist mounted guns. A lot of the transformation scheme is surprisingly tight.

>>6016355
There's a tab under both forearms that do that, the left arm has one on top, and it's weird that the instructions don't say anything about it.

Will autismo 2 be good enough to warrant it's price over the 3p options?

>>6016400

No one will know until he comes out, and even then, the 3P's are cheaper and have their own appeal. I think Despotron is easily better looking, but he's also not the pure G1 aesthetic, and some people won't like that.

>>6016400
I'd say so. It comes with some great accessories and looks the nicest out of all the options, especially in the face sculpts.

>>6016355
I'm guessing we're getting an accessory later on that plugs into it. I vaguely remember Primal using some kind of device or sensor he mounted on his forearm, but I could be mistaken.

>>6016158
>>6016159
>periodically
Fuck i laughed lol

>>6016168
Alpha Trion is a triple changer with two shitty altmodes and one fantastic robot mode.

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>that one TF that you've wanted for ages and finally find at a decent price

What's her name, /tfg/? Pic related.

>>6016336
I really want that set, but I don't 150 eaglebux want it, at least right now I don't

>>6016433
RTS Lugnut, finally found him for $30 including shipping, I was so happy.

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>>6016433

Most recent was this guy. Only thing I was missing, and scalpers were going balls deep on him for like the past 2 months. Then Walgreens finally got him on their site.

>>6015142
That Soundwave looks great but his chest looks too big and it sticks out a lot. Hopefully it is not that bad when in hand.

>>6015541
I wish CW Ironhide used the First Aid version of the CW truck mold instead of the Off Road version. It looks good on Ratchet with the windshield chestplate.

>>6016238
But the one on the left has more detail. It's textures even loaded.

>>6016487
Then you'd have the problem we get with the Prowl version of the Dead End mold, they'd have to replace the light bar for him to look good, and I doubt they'd bother even if it's much simpler to remove it than the Prowl version.

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dumping new pics of baldigus

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So glad I waited on Bruticus. I was just a kid when RiD was out, so this was the combiner I grew up with. These colors just resonate with me so much more

>>6016631
I suppose you can give the combiner hands to Shuttler but what about the combiner feet? Any creative uses for them outside of combined mode?

>>6016635
good use as a flight stand for the aerial cons.

>>6016193

Man MP Cheeto's going to look great next to Primal. Might be the only two I keep in alt mode.

>>6016226

If Tracks and his elbows limited to 45 degrees is considered an MP then so is Primal.

> AE finally confirms early bird pricing for Megs at 16,100 jpy.
> Still no amiami or hlj slot.

They're killing me with this. I've been getting up at 3am every morning.

>>6016432
>fantastic robot mode

Are we talking about the same toy here?

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>Legends brainstorm finally went back up on preorder

das it mane

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Anon who asked if it was worth a 45min drive back again, I asked to reserve the paralon, they did, which was good as he was the last one, same for the optimus, though starscream was peg warming with another 3 still on the pegs.

Also mp ratchet, I never like ironhide despite better color seperation but ratchet just seemed nicer.

I have a question though, the eyes on his stern face seem sunken in and there is a big gap between the bridge of his eyes, is that normal or was mine's stern face fucked up, asking because I bought him on ebay and I am aware an ko ironhide is inbound so making sure I didn't get screwed (the smiley face works fine though)

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>>6016635
Why specifically Shuttler? to do the hulk hands thing?

Also, to those that own them, these hands are barely articulated yes? less articulate than the HFGs?

>>6016336
Don't need too. I already have all of them. I don't really need to have doubles of them except for maybe Arcee.

>>6016660
Collecting all the anime designs?

>>6016667
I got Hasbro Computron yesterday, the hands have no articulation at all.

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Damn, I was at this Walmart yesterday and I practically all of the 6 original Headmasters in the store. I got Highbrow for now because I missed the Takara pre-order for him so I won't get one for a while, also dipping down twice on the Headmasters is not a bad thing at all.

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>>6016611
>>6016631
Tempting, but won't there be bad legs on Onslaught and a lot of mold degredation?

>>6016677
>mold degredation
possible, if we're lucky they're using freshly copied molds
>bad legs
Even UW bruticus didn't have this problem and it came out after victorion and g2 bruticus, even then chances are this could be low and self repair isn't hard depending on what method you choose

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>>6016669
Yeah, I was worried i'd never find the deluxes in shops over here (combiner wars waves were fucked), and I liked the accuracy of the legends ones.

>>6016660
Ami or HLJ? HLJ had Chromedome and Mindwipe up for a bit so I got them both but had to cancel Mindwipe the other day since I know I'll find one of him during the winter toyshow in my area, sad thing is I won't get Chromedome till next year since I'm waiting for Brainstorm to come out so he's going to be sitting in the private warehouse for about a month.

>>6015133

>>That smirk

Oi Cyclonus, ur a rite cheeky cunt m8

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>>6016685
HLJ.

I'd missed out on Chromedome and Brainstorm when they were first up, but grabbed Chromedome a while ago. I've been watching the Brainstorm to see if he went out of Order Stop status.

>>6016690
That's nice. Well I'm missing Highbrow that's why I just bought the Hasbro one for now. Hopefully I find the LG locally.

>>6016690
>>6016693
Forgot to mention, we have local sellers here that do import the Takara ones that's why I'm very hopeful to see it locally. Being around Toronto makes me in the hub of the collecting market in the area since TFcon happens near my place.

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>>6016693
On the other hand everytime I hit up one of the toy shops near my they've got pretty much all of the Deluxes.

Kinda makes me regret getting the insanely-more expensive versions.

>>6016695
No regrets for me. I've even been double dipping on some especially the titan masters.

I've already got Hardhead and I'd like one more titan master. Should I get Skullcruncher? Or which other one? I'd prefer a Decepticon.

>>6016709
if you're fine fixing the loose hips he's alright, I personally prefer weirdwolf/wolfwire since both modes have a fair bit of play options

>>6016709
Weirdwolf is pretty good. Just beware of the qc issues with the cockpit hinge

>>6016709
I would say Weirdwolf like this anon said >>6016710.

>>6016710
I don't like his head sculpt that much and the deco is not really my taste. Skullcruncher still has the CQ issues?

>>6016709

I did Hasbro skull cruncher and hardhead. Two unique molds with unique alt modes

Is GDO Powerdive worth £50 on Amazon? It's the best looking version of the mold IMO and considering the exclusivity and comparative complexity (next to modern toys) it seems like a fair deal. The figure LOOKS awesome and it turns into a homage to a P-38 Lightning so I kinda want it but is it worth that money?

>>6016713
If only his head didn't have the solid red deco and he had a normal gun accessory instead of that big tube of blue plastic.
Not a fan of the blue/yellow but maybe I could learn to love it when I see it in person.

>>6016714
>headsculpt
Which head, beast mode, takara head or hasbro?

>not into deco
Well then um...can't help there since the hasbro one has a better more varied deco but the takara one is more "screen accurate" but a better colored head, the fact he's yellow doesn't help.

>qc issues
VERY few anons reported good, so I say its still a problem

>>6016716
Did you have CQ issues on your Skullcruncher? Really like his deco and general vibe.

>>6016721
If you don't want the Hasbro Weirdwolf, get the Takara then because that one is the anime deco so his head is just like how it looks like in the show.

>>6016730
Loose hips like everyone else but no actual problems like flash or parts issues

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I just noticed something while checking my rather large collection.

Why is it that takara legends figures get an open display, yet masterpieces get a closed box?

Why does hasbro mp's bother with packing them in robot mode when the contents aren't visible for that matter?

Why don't mp's have window box style packaging?

>>6016740
The LG boxes are meant to homage the original G1 boxes. The MPs are probably because they're a premium item so they come in a sleek black box with their promo shots. For Hasblow I have no clue, sometimes I think they're run by people with down syndrome.

>>6016740
Maybe having them hidden from view is part of the psychological process that makes them feel more high-end.

>Why does hasbro mp's bother with packing them in robot mode when the contents aren't visible for that matter?
This I would guess is to give Hasbro MPs more consistent box sizes; you know how western retailers love size classes.

>>6016670
Ah right, I thought there'd be a slight and useless joint for the fingers, what a waste, they could've been great.

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>>6016747
>The MPs are probably because they're a premium item so they come in a sleek black box with their promo shots
They're cool and all but adding a flap would give a nice touch, their UW series has those, even sentinel's take on playstation and megadrive had those, and even with regards to their alt modes I honestly think they look good.

Only thing I can remotely think of is the way they pack the clamshells, they cram as much in in an economic manner

>>6016748
>Maybe having them hidden from view is part of the psychological process that makes them feel more high-end.
Hrm, interesting theory.

>This I would guess is to give Hasbro MPs more consistent box sizes; you know how western retailers love size classes.
Surprised they didn't give them a window flap, they tried to "expose" the product with the older mp's like the mp03's and mp10's, though those were shit in terms of sturdiness so they instead gave them those universal sized boxes.

Which annoy me when something so small takes up so much room, also that size thing, wasn't that just for retailers for their pricing guides?

Makes no sense seeing how mp's are a single retailer exclusive

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>>6016754
Actually maybe the lack of flaps is just so that they don't have to spend additional money for all the plastic windows and velcro pads.

I think part of the Platinum line's ridiculous cost is because of the admittedly cool packaging.

>>6016695
Why do you have terribull incorrectly placed in his vehicle?

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>>6016760
I thought they were banking on nostalgia for the price hike (although liokaiser seems to be exception, wonder why).

It just goggles my mind when takara UW sets have window boxes but mp's don't and certain mp's are cheaper than a UW boxset

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>>6016767
>(although liokaiser seems to be exception, wonder why)
This one I'm sure is because it's essentially a CW box set with all of the things those sets have, and the Platinum title was just slapped on because Combiner Wars is over.

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>>6016770
Even though hasbro computron came out when it was virtually over anyway?

I never understood hasbro's logic on this

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>>6016775
Well, Hasbro doesn't have any control over when toy stores get things in stock.

I don't know man, I'm just an anonymous toy collector.

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>>6016433
YOTS Omega Supreme. Waited 3 years and got him loose @ about 35% off its original MSRP at a flea market stall.

Was taking a risk but it turned out perfect, just caked in a thick layer of dust. Guess the guy just bought and sat it on the shelf for ages untouched.

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>>6016781
Understood, just venting at the whole thing.

It doesn't really matter since most of us unbox our figures, I just thought it'd be a nice touch (even though my tru slaps a security tag device over the top of them preventing viewing) and liokaiser is just an oddball in more ways than his box.

Guess I'll await on takara's take and see what the UW brings

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Reminder that convoy bat exist and is coming soon.

Anyone still getting him or change their minds because of the rubber?

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>>6016788
Really wish he had some maximal symbols on him somewhere though

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>>6016775
>>6016770
I dunno what's happening to Liokaiser in the states, but in Singapore, it was
>Shipped in the same case 2/2 with the CW Computron set
>revised to be priced the same as other CW sets (Victorion is now the sole CW set that has a higher MSRP)

So yeah, it's kinda like a regular CW set as far as distribution here goes.

>>6016788
What if Warden does an Aaron and releases this exclusive under Titan Returns as a regular release?

>>6016792
eHobby Exclusives have been released as regular product before?

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Thanks to the anon that said about how you can store Skullcruncher's mace using his crocodile claws in robot mode, just tried it and it looks great, now to find a good way to store Weirdwolf's weapons.

>>6016797

Huh? Post a pic

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Here is something I found interesting, the heads are painted differently between convoy bat and leo convoy, and USUALLY tf_pr only post shots of the finished product, would leo's head be mettalic paint or sparkly plastic?

As it kinda looks like the ehobby convoy bat has flat plastic, also mouth plate and chins differ in paint between them.

>>6016792
People would rage but its unlikely as hasbro has 0 plans for beast wars celebrations.

>>6016795
Yes and no, hasbro classics nemesis prime predates the ehobby black prime although they're portrayed to be different characters, and scourge was tf subscription (?) before he got a released as a takara convention exclusive.

But with that nemesis prime I'm not sure if it was a store exclusive or what, all I know is it was a black prime repaint in universe packaging, I don't mind if I'm corrected but my paint is we see something simerlar

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>>6016795
Maybe not specifically Ehobby exclusives, but many takara "limited edition" items were released as regular toys in the Hasbro in very similar colors. Stuff I can think of off my head
>Micron Legend Scourge/ Armada Nemesis Prime
>Superlink Terrorcon repaints
>Galaxy Force Red Excellion (limited to 500 pcs)/Cybertron Exillion.

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>>6016806
There was also that stealth bumblebee, was a regular release then became a takara exclusive as black knight bee

>>6016740

The cars and Shockwave are packed in their alt-modes. It's all about what works better in the box.

>>6016754

Windowless boxes are cost effective since with MPs every last dollar is scrutinized by both Takara and the fans.

>>6016814
This makes the most sense, the clamshells are quite cluttered and space saving as a result.

Alt modes don't matter since legends figures are packed in alt mode or robot and they're window'd, after unboxing my ratchet he's kinda ugly to look at because he's on his side and not horizontal.

>>6016814
Hasbro has released an MP Shockwave?

>>6016820

Sorry didn't see the specification. In that case probably to keep the box sizes consistent between hasbro releases.

>>6016820
He's talking about in general, that said long ago when I asked a tru about any clearance mp's they had shockwave on their system along side hasbro bumblebee, that said this was in australia and good chance its the takara box with a (poorly) translated manual, with an edited bio (starsaber's was using his idw history for example).

>>6016821
In the original question it was asking about why hasbro or takara weren't using window boxes, I honestly prefer takara's approach as its space saving and shrinks down shipping prices unlike hasbro inflating them

>>6016800
The claw tips on the end claws can fit into the holes at the base of the tail.

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>>6016785

What's this, a checklist for ants?

>>6016866
Nah, just for inferno