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SD Group Build

Rules:
Pick up an SD anything, plane, Gundam/other MS, whatever, if it's generally an SD it counts (so I hope to see someone do a D-Style). Obviously, per all group builds, you'll want to paint it.

Submissions:
Email it to [email protected]
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Due Date: November 1st

Good news! A kind anon has purchased some prizes for the group build. He has decided to do a random drawing rather than judge them like I did in the previous group build. Winners will be contacted via email.

For those curious, I intend to start the secret Santa signups on October 1st.

Is Mr.Top Coat Flat spray the go to for acrylic paint?

I saw some Testor Dullcoat at my hobby store but remembered that was a lacquer spray.

>>5934714
I used multiple cans of testors over acrylic paint.

>havent built in a couple months
>have a relaxing time cutting stuff off sprues
>pick up my knife and start trimming nubs
>2nd piece, accidentally dug the knife into the piece
>tell myself its okay, some putty work is gonna fix it right up
>keep everything and cry in a corner

>>5934744
Go cry if you're a snapshitter.

>>5934714
I've never done it, but from what I understand it's okay as long as you stick to light coats of the top coat, and you're sure that you've given the acrylic plenty of time to cure.

>>5934653
flatcoat-san, do you flatcoat at the table? or do you spray outside? do you do the whole model that you have, or disassemble them and spray pieces individually?

>>5934744
If you have any skill with putty and paint, you'll be fine.

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Said fuck it and used my lunch break to pick up my package so they can't close early and cocblock me again.

Which should I work on first?

>>5935164
The table and chair. That looks adorable.

>>5935164
The recasting mould of course

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What would be a good stand for the Sazabi Ver.Ka?

He's starting to lean forward under his own weight, and that's scary.

>>5935164
There are model kits for furniture?

>>5935291
There are loads

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>>5935291
Hasegawa makes a bunch of random 1/12 stuff. There are a couple of other companies that make kits too and of course a shit ton of pre-built doll stuff in that scale.

>>5935316
that's awesome.

If I apply stickers, would I have any issues of paint/gundam markering over them later and doing details with pens or stuff?

http://dalong.net/review/kotobukiya/fag01/fag01_i.htm
>dalong is covering FA:Gs
huh, better late than never I suppose, I just assumed he decided against them

>>5935281
ive seen them sitting fine on an action base.

>>5935405
paint always comes before stickers anon

>>5934815
I use Mr. Super Clear Matte outside. I coat the disassembled pieces after lining and applying decals.

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Non-revive Gyan, but still a great overall kit. Can pull off some fun poses with it as well.

I'm new to building models and I want to try my hand at painting (probably with spray cans). Is there a particular kit that gets recommended to beginners for this?

>>5935575
SD gundams are a good start. they are cheap and easy to build so if you fuck up, it's not hard to get a new one and try again

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Went outside and took a outdoor pic of graze before it started raining.
I really wanna clean him up a bit with shaving/panel lining.

>>5935575
Any of the HG GMs, the Hi-Mock is really good too. All super cheap and simple.

>>5935575
Sort by lowest price on HLJ and skip to a few pages in

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I got the blues, anon.

Help me pick which model to work on. Full build / paint job for one of these.

>>5935608
Sunshine-L anon, let him bring the light, and autocannons, back into your life.

>>5935608
The Ingra looks really nice. Hope you feel better Anon, being unhappy is shitty.

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Finished the snapfit of my first RG. Was pretty fun.

>>5935620
Sexy.

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For 800¥ these are pretty fun. I should probably dust my desk though.

>>5935763
>Flat

Mah nigga

>>5935765
It's a pretty fun kit considering it's price and age.

>>5935411
Me too, but it looks like dalong came through.

Bless him.

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>>5935763
>mobile worker
>100% unpainted
I got tricked

>>5935411
Based dalong

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Anyone have any of these? Wanted to buy one, but seller wanted $25 each

>>5936018
That looks awesome.

>>5936018
Where at?

>>5936018
I like how they are stickered for less than $25.
What a scumbag seller.

>Local distributor warehouse sale
>g-reco at $5
>ibo hg at $10
>1/100 ibo at $25

Just spare my wallet already.

>>5936034
where at?

>>5936034
>>5936038
Ohhhhh fuck me I see it.

>>5936038
Singapore. Talk about clearing stock.

>>5936034
Same problem here with towers hobby. MG Thunderbolt for 70 dollars hnng

>>5936048
That 1/100 grimgerde is really tempting, are you going?

>>5936054
Just to have a look. Too many times of buying and not feeling it halfway through.

>>5936063
Those 5 dollar g-reco kits though.
I guess I'll pass as well, I have way too many kits in my backlog.

>>5935281
http://hlj.com/product/BAN948218 ???

Are there any animal kits that are not very pricey? I'm looking to try my first build and there are a few LBX kits I like and WeGo but I would really like an animal based kit.
I'm not up to trying the zoids since I doubt Id be able to do it yet, or are there easy zoid kits as well?

Did Recognista in G have any good suits? Started watching it when it first aired, and discovered I could not stand it as all. Looking for suits to kitbash into a custom of some sort.

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>>5936102
You could try the Tamiya 1/35 Leopard, but there might be better ones out there

>>5936106
The fan favourite is the Grimore, but I like the elf bullock, dahack, montero and gastima myself.
Note that GReco kits have shit engineering and accessories, so don't get too excited

>>5936093
that's perfect!

>>5936031
Fairway Hobbies Lancaster, Ohio

>>5936053
But that's MSRP?

>>5936287
O yea im retarded. Its 54 dollars and free shipping atm.

>tfw nightingale is in the mail

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>tfw the very best is in the mail

Does anyone know of a good storage organizer box thing to keep all my spare parts in? I have tons of extra things just lying around in my boxes and need to get organized.

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Damn I want this decal set.
get on it chinks

>>5936393
Just look for bead organisers or like tackle boxes.

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>>5936393
i got a set of storage boxes at home depot a couple months ago, pretty cheaply made but storage compartments for days and you can just organize the individual cases by class or scale to feed your OCD.

>>5936393
Plastic takeout containers. Ziplock bags if I need to further separate them

>>5936419
gerbil what is the gm looking thing that you had posing next to the ammo case?

>>5936419
Won't stuff in the top fall if you close the containers?

>>5936473
You place the orange containers in the box first before you close them, silly goose

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>>5936439
the RD Nero?

>>5936473
the orange trays are inserts you stick in first. they actually seal pretty well and keep pieces from falling between the dividers once the lid is closed.

>>5936485

yeah the nero is sex. It looks like its based off the ex-s, but I guess I'll never have an hg of it

>>5936485
Were those trays on clearance or something? I can't seem to find it on their website.

>>5936034
I can't resist the $20 RG Zgok, man

>>5936494
pretty sure they were a limited edition item, they were only $8-9 for the whole set and were on one of those separate cardboard displays. i just looked too and couldnt find them, they were originally called HDX 5 in 1 Organizers.

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GA + a Kagutsuchi I can understand,

but areyou really going to make me pay for the extend arms set too, koto?

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>>5936524

also, does anyone remember when drake was just DRAKE?

>>5936524
Everything is better with a kagutsuchi.
Also yes pay up goy

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>>5936524
>not already having everything in backlog waiting for the opportune moment such as this
plebs these days I swear

>>5936544
>her face when she sees you taking more than 5 seconds to clean up a nub

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>>5936544

my backlog is actually bigger than yours, "pleb"

>>5936550
sure thing pal and my uncle is a president of Bandai

>>5936550
>>5936544
It's not the number of kits in your backlog that matters, its the value of the kits

>>5936559

well no duh. 30 hg's aren't going to add up to a tief sturmer.

there are some new hmm zoids

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>>5936561
>30 HGs

The Dendrobium and Neo Zeong are HGs, kek

>>5936603
No sane man would have 30 Dendrobiums/Neo Zeongs. They are outliers

>>5936561
What if it's 20 MG, 50 HG, 15 RG, 6 ng ibo, and 2 Re 100?

>>5936607
Maybe you need more diversity, try building other types of models

I'm gonna be buying a mask soon when I get money, but I was wondering, should a small dust mask be sufficient protection for just sanding down nubs etc for the time being?

>>5936634
Just sand wet, even a drop of water keeps the dust cluttered in a convenient lump. Unless you're dealing with particularly toxic material like garage kit plastics, fibreglass, etc.

>Using Backlogs as a dick waving measure

It's not the number of kits in your backlog, it's the number of kits you've completed recently and the amount of work you've put into them.

If you're going to brag about unbuilt kits sitting in your closet you might as well be bragging about clothes you've never worn and the food you haven't eaten yet as well.

>>5936656
I thought we were making jokes with the dick innuendos.

http://www.modelers-g.jp/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=34926

Damn, looks great even though I don't play the game.

Also, dalong's review is up

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>>5936115
Thank you for the suggestion anon but I meant something that's more like an actual animal, I did some more searching and outside of zoids and pokemon I cant find anything else.
I could just be shit at searching, I'm a bit surprised there are so few animal/animal like kits. Ill just get a zoid kit, and hope I dont fuck up a simple one.

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You know, after looking at this picture, I feel like the Jinrai would look nice in desaturated colors, similar to the Abyssals from Kancolle

>>5936720
does the katana really snap at the handle? or was it jsut a few hamhands fucking up their astray?

>>5936830
Only if ham handled. It just happens sometimes unfortunately.

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>>5936395
you gotta buy this magazine then

>>5936720
RYUJIN NO KEN O KURAE!

>>5936943
is that a 1/100 of the new barbatos?

>>5936954
Yes. The Lupus version

>>5936954
1/144

>>5936963
Turn your flash off, nobody wants to see the plastichrome of your mother's 70s kitchen

>>5936965
Sorry.

>>5936965
i was gonna say

>the filename is "shitposting", what were you expecting?

but i was mistaken

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>>5936975
You can never tell, figured even if it was just shitposting I'd try to talk shit anyway.

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The amount of decals on the Skygrasper is insane even by RG standards.

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>>5936978
I was gonna try guessing the box hidden on the top right corner but I realised it was the the skygrasper's box

>tfw jumped on a 800 yen gn archer even though you have one just on principle
fucking mandarake (i hope i get it)

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>>5936989
While the build is nice, the weathering may be slightly overdone.

How did those red circled parts get scraped? While damage is done to mobile suits is understandable, they mostly occur on places that are closer to areas that see a lot of action. Yours gives off a vibe that it has been through an intense desert sandstorm that equally wore out every piece of armor on the suit.

Unless the mobile suit was left in an underground sewer bunker for 200 years of disuse, I don't see how it could sustain so much rusting.

>>5937073
It kinda sucks, but weathering went from "make this thing look realistic" to "make this thing look COOL and BEAT UP".

It's why you see things like desert weathering on space-only MS or ridiculously beat up equipment that any sane military would've replaced ages ago. It's not appropriate, but the builder must think it looks cool so oh well.

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I just thought it was neat how the builder repurposed extra parts to create this custom

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>>5937132
Once you really start getting into custom stuff you will have more spare plastic than you know what to do with.

Some people just throw them out.

Others get creative.

>>5936698
It was just a joke really, I didn't have any better advice. Why animals though

>>5936383
I've had this thing for 3 months but am too intimidated to put it together..those stickers are death and I can't paint for anything

>>5937073
Please post an example of "proper" weathering.

>>5937073
>>5937112
If it helps, I agree with you and don't know why people have a huge problem with you. Honestly, if you can't have criticism, what's there to improve on then? Not everyone has low standards of "it's not meme weathered = good weathering" when actual good weathering should be accepted as what was likely and as close to realistic with giant miniature robots can be. If the space analogy wasn't good enough for people, would you find algae and coral forming on a space MS like a Zeong be fine with you? You have to have a story to why it's weathered a way. I agree with the whole too bashed up part because why is someone piloting a mess with huge bullet holes and slash marks everywhere unless you wanted to depict a scene just after a battle or while it's being destroyed. And in that case, that MS should be in a falling or downed pose instead of these action ones. I really thought toy was better than this unless it's that time of the day to be trolled.

>>5937181
Not him, but I take more issue with the uneven paint and visible brush strokes than the weathering. That and how shiny it is despite the fact he obviously used flat paint.

The mods are nice though.

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>>5936989

Anon, I think you did a great job. I'm sorry people are treating this so badly and arguing. You did more than most people on this board ever will and I respect the work you put into that.

Nice job, anon. I'm sorry people have got to be so critical of everything, please don't feel like you should ever NOT share because of a few people shitting up your effort.

>>5937296
You know that's not his and it's from 2chan right? And that its been on 2chan for months because their plamo board is slow as fuck.

>>5937314

Had no idea. I just hate it when people can't just enjoy their hobby without shitting on someone else.

>>5937321
Nobody was even really shitting on it. A couple of people just pointed out a few areas that need improvement. We don't do reddit style circlejerks here but unless it really is just awful we don't shit on things unreasonably either.

Even the people pointing out the weathering and paint say that the build is good.

>>5937296
The original poster was trying to provide constructive criticism, and only got insulting when the response was >REEEEEEEEE
You're in the wrong place if you want a hugbox.

>>5937321

you know what? I even like that paintjob, but I'm just going to shit on your face because your a retard

>>5937296
>Posting papercraft in a plamo thread.

>>5937073
Fall damage, Using prone positioning, trees and shrubbery when going through forests, shrapnel from weapons and debris from buildings come to mind when i see weathering like that.

It looks like its used by a really abusive pilot and hasn't had the opportunity to be maintained, or was abandoned. If I had to come up with some story to go with it I'd imagine that whoever found this machine dug up a diamond in the rough.

It's a pretty good paint job and I can understand your train of thought, but it doesn't take much imagination to perceive why a weapon of any variety would be in that kind of shape.

>>5937367

or you know, giant gay robot sex

>>5937374
And that's how you infect other robots with rust.

>>5937367
Paint job looks too thick honestly. Not "thin your paints" thick but more like he added too many layers.

>>5937367
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but come on, you don't get paint chips on every single edge. Just look at AFVs, even after a lot of battle you wouldn't have that ridiculous amount of chipping

>>5937392

giant gay robot sex is looking more and more plausible

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>>5937142
I just really like robotic and stylized animals, it seems like kits would be good for that. My robot girls and boy could use some pets too.

>>5937404

for painting zoids its really all about the hmm line

I guess you could paint the toys if you really wanted

>>5936102
Tryon 3 might work for ya.

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>>5937392
I'm not shooting down your opinion, in order to make sense of the entire weather process that is on that piece I have to give a bunch of excuses in order for that particular paint job to feel natural.

However it's not entirely unreasonable to think that some people are really bad at using equipment, this is also a giant robot so I can only imagine that a pilot would use just about any surface as cover in a manner that a soldier would. AFV don't generally intentionally slam into surfaces, or fall from large heights.

>>5937414

If it comes on a sprue, why not paint it?

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>>5937414
Ill see how my first few go and look into that and some customs, Ive seen some great creations from multiple kits.
>>5937425
This guy is really cool, thank you for that suggestion, I have a nice amount of things to try now.

Thanks for the help in general, even that joke tank suggestion got me looking up a lot of kits, there is a lot of interesting stuff.

>>5937468
Glad to help. Make sure you show us.

>>5937367
>or was abandoned. If I had to come up with some story to go with it I'd imagine that whoever found this machine dug up a diamond in the rough.

That was my first impression. Like that old anime trope of "protagonist finds secretly badass shitbox mech half-buried in the forest and uses it to defend his village."

>>5937559

>trope

kill yourself

Family does a lot of work with industrial logging equipment, that shit takes a beating and usually looks worse than the weathering that >>5936989 did. Even with constant repair and service, most machines are not painted regularly and get weathered and aged. Just my two cents though.

I've heard mixed things about the 1/72 Messiahs made for Frontier. Can anyone whose built one elaborate on that please? I know transformable kits aren't exactly the sturdiest or most stable, but what problems do they have with the build itself, and not decal application?

>>5937601

>familiy does a lot of... log...shit. with constant...service...regularly

giant gay robot sex it is

>>5937601
Squeam?

>>5937601
anon i dont think these people here have left their cities before and dont know what machinery looks like

can you imagine repainting everything every year? that'd be dumb

>>5937647
No robo homo.

>>5937662
What?

>>5937668
Good point. I suppose living in the backwoods middle of nowhere does have perks.

>>5937675
I know a guy in the hobby who is part of a logging family, goes by Squeam. Must just be a coincident.

>>5937675
are you that guy who's making his kit look like a fucking decepticon?

>>5937687
Huh, serendipity I guess?

>>5937707
Nah, I'm the guy in love with the Titan's Test colors. I also forgot to take my name off from posting in Transformers General.

I really wanna get something Tallgeese.

I have the MSIA figures of Tallgeese 1 and 3 but 1 is missing his weapon and shoulder connector for it and 3 is missing the Whip part and gun.
While tracking down the parts on Ebay I came across this.
Is Daban some kind of third party Kit?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DABAN-MODEL-Gundam-Assembling-Model-MG-1-100-OZ-00MS-Tallgeese-Figure-In-Box-/262621284604?hash=item3d2572c8fc:g:6CQAAOSwdIFX1hLS

>>5937794
Yeah, it's a knock off, but that particular one seems pretty popular among people who NEED a Tallgeese in their lives.

>>5937601
>>5937647
Yeah but the point of IBO suits is that the paint layer is a functional armor layer in itself.

>>5937876
Functional but replaceable. It's lacquer if I remember right? Similar to how GM shields were built - can take hits but it will wear off? Still watching the series on Toonami, fucking love it.

>>5937937
Yes, repainting is a part of their maintenance.

>>5937601
It's a giant robot though, not industrial machinery. It's used in a different context, and as a result should have different weathering.

The fun part about weathering is that you really have to sit down and visualize. You need to think about what parts of the thing would be most likely to get worn down, look up how this stuff tends to look in the closest real life analogue you can find, study the kit's backstory to see what would be appropriate, and then actually plan out and paint the final build. It's a lot of effort, but that's what makes the final result so meaningful.

But it's also a whole lot of work, so no shame in just like, preshading all of the panel lines and edges and then chipping away from there. It still looks cool, it's just that 95% of the time it's not realistic at all.

>>5937937
It's nano-laminate coating. BAsically it greatly helps absorb impacts, but can be burned off with high heat (Which makes me wonder why more MS don't equip some sort of flamethrower or super Dragon breath rounds).

>>5937960
>giant robots
>not industrial machinery

>>5937964
>flamethrower or super Dragon breath rounds
>Fire
>in space

For terrestrial combat though, flamethrowers don't have that great a range, and often require a non-trivial amount of highly flammable fuel. But considering this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Fire_(mortar) is a real thing, yeah, that would make sense

>>5937601
Like >>5937960 said, a military grade giant robot would probably be weathered in a different way. For instance, it would probably be stored in a hanger for longer amounts of time than logging equipment. I would also assume that a military base's hanger provides better protection from the elements than a whatever building/structure you guys use, but that's complete speculation on my part.

>>5937960
Well if it is used in space, you would think it would get some damage from the micro meteors and debris, right? I can see weathering on the joint/moving areas, places where shell casings might hit when a weapon is fired, etc. All in all though, even the slightest sprays of grit, or relatively gentle scrapes will build up - especially if you are constantly in sorties without a lot of time to resupply and resurface your suit. Just my thoughts though.

>>5937964
Maybe a matter of cost versus effectiveness? Flamethrowers seem a bit dangerous to use in Gundam, IBO even more so since there is a major emphasis on melee combat as far as I have watched. Incendiary shells seem a bit more useful, but I think a pilot would be better off with HE or HEAP rounds in a solid state weapons. Maybe incendiary rounds in the head/body vulcans?

>>5937990
>flamethrower or super Dragon breath rounds
>Fire
>in space
It's possible to store both the fuel and oxygen needed for a flamethrower, and you can even make fuels that don't require oxygen at all to burn as well

>>5937990
All you would have to do for fire to burn in space is add some sort of oxidizer.

Hell, this was even a thing in the show itself. The group that was trying to capture them for Gjallarhorn launched napalm missiles at them to burn off their ship's coating. Going even further, there have been a ton of experiments by NASA for how fire burns in space.

>>5937998
Most of space is an empty vacuum, and particles slowly drift either towards gravity wells or get caught up in places where gravity is more stable. I mean, you don't see much paint chipping on the space shuttles or ISS, and the space shuttles have to survive re-entry as well. Also, the apollo capsules had walls who's thickness was comparable to foil IIRC, so micro meteors ain't going to do shit to paint. While your point about shells and joins is good, most of the weathering on the model is paint chipping on edges, and it's on every single edge.

>>5938006
You could store fuel and oxygen, but then you'd need a much bigger round. It'd also cost more, and would probably be less efficient than just firing a bunch of regular rounds.

>>5938011
That's true, forgot about that.

>>5938027
>You could store fuel and oxygen, but then you'd need a much bigger round. It'd also cost more, and would probably be less efficient than just firing a bunch of regular rounds.
>You'd need bigger rounds.

I think that you're forgetting that most guns in gundam fire enormously large rounds from giant guns. Even the basic head vulcans on MS fire rounds like twice the size or more than the A-10's Vulcan gun.

>Gunpla/Plamo/Chemistry/Physics

I'm not even complaining.

>>5938034
Yeah, but most of the damage comes from the mass and velocity of the round. You'd be sacrificing a lot of mass just to store fuel so the thing can burn off a layer of armor.

>>5938040
A layer of armor that prevents most of your guns from doing jack shit unless you're using one of those big cannons like on the Barbatos or Rebake. The regular rifles were basically useless against anything with nanolaminate like the gundams and brewers MS and even the big cannons didn't always one shot even in critical areas.

>>5938040
>mass and velocity of round
Anon, kinetic weaponry tech has advanced quite a fair bit. Keep in mind we're talking about MBT caliber guns and not the handheld small arms variety

>>5938034
A surprisingly large amount of Mobile Suits, including the Graze are armed with relatively "small" round firing guns. Grave mounts a 120mm Rifle, I think the standard head vulcan in UC was pairs of 60mm guns? The HFW-GR·MR82 90mm GM Rifle is pretty small in comparison to energy weapons. Not sure where I am going with this now, aside from my love for proper, solid state projectile weapons. None of this beams and funnels and Newtype trash. Back in my days we had to fight with our souls weighted down by gravity. Uphill both ways! Oh god these meds are hitting me like a colony drop. Love you Gunpla general, bever change.

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Too cold outside to continue with my first painting project so I'm starting on this monster.

>>5938098
should have waited for the mg

>>5938066
>mass and velocity
>kinetic
>Kinetic energy = (1/2)*m*v^2

Although now that I point it out, losing mass wouldn't make as much of a difference. Still, there have to be a multitude of different methods that are more effective for creating space incendiary rounds than firing bullet missiles (which is essentially what we're talking about at this point)

>>5938106
>implying paying more just to have a booster the size of a paper towel roll is a good thing and not a shitty p-bandai expansion gimmick

>>5938132
no i just think the mg just flat out looks better then the hg. dont care about the thruster, i wont put it on mine.

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Why are the Shikis / Deltas so sexy?

>>5938481
Slick, mean and no stupid looking V-fin.

>>5938481
Ugly** like a discount transformer

>>5938481
Overall style. Head and shoulders especially so in my opinion. Speaking of the Shiki, what is the best HG currently- should I wait for the revive, or grab the Gryps Conflict or what?

>>5938481
"Don't speak to me or my wife's son ever again!"

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>>5938481
Nagano is good at making sexy stuff.

>>5938535
the Revive is so much better as long as you are happy with the gold plastic or are willing to paint. dont even bother getting the old one from 1999, the quality gap is huge even when you ignore the gold plating. besides the new HG is undergated so painting will be super easy.

>>5938560
Is that a custom? EFSF/Titans Zeta era stuff is delicious.

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>>5938562
its a Mega Shiki that i rebuilt back to a Delta Gundam then repainted with two Mega Ride Launchers on its back and a few Delta Gundam parts i got from a friend.

i just call it the Delta M now.

>>5936698

God damn, that Mirage Fox looks amazing. What are the odds it looks even half that good OOB?

>>5936720
Is this the RG or the MG?

The madmen at the local hobby store have a Tiefsturmer for $480, should I do it?

>>5938654
Scalp it.

>>5938726
>02 on shoulder

Why

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>>5936698
>Ill just get a zoid kit, and hope I dont fuck up a simple one.
If you can massively screw up the kit you posted, then you need to just never touch any other model kit, so you should be fine. The Mirage Fox is basically a slightly more updated version of the older Zoids kits. The main selling feature was the fact they were motorized so the skill level to build them has always been on the low side due to far less over the top engineering for crazy articulations. That said I have no idea how similar the plastic quality is to the hasbro released kits, but I remember those having some difficult to work with plastic and having some more obvious flash here and there then other model lines. so that could b an issue for screwing it up.

>>5937468
Other animal style stuff in the Gundam universe includes the Bu-Cue and theeir variations frrom the Seed line. There is also some kind of dinosaur thing called Danazine from Gundam Age. know next to nothing about that one other then it exists.

The HMM line is pretty much the best looking zoids kits you can get. They are made by Kotobukiya and suffer from some engineering issues here and there that can make the task of building them a bit more daunting then even the 'harder' grades of gundam kits. But the results are so very satisfying compared to the original zoids.

I recommend trying out a few gunpla before moving onto the HMM line if you are not use to model building at all.

Pic is my HMM version of the shadow fox, the Mirage fox you posted is essentially a remold of the original shadow fox with a few new parts.

>>5937601
>>5937426
>>5937367
>>5937073
>>5937960
>>5938027
Gotta admit this whole conversation has me thinking more heavily on just how the wear and tear gundams would actually look like. I have always went with the old standby of having to analyze wear and tear on military vehicles to get a good comparison but now I am wondering how accurate that actually is.

Maybe we need to find some information rgarding what kind of weathering effects occured on knight armor? Could be interesting to see what kind of scuff marks and denting they usually get just by running around in them often.

>>5938813
Good idea. The main issue with mobile suits is the high, humanoid profile and the fact they encounter things most AFV/IFV/Tanks would not. Higher up tree limbs, scraping against buildings or ducking under bridges - it's sort of a new dimension in weathering and wear and tear, as dumb as it sounds.

>>5938813
>knight armor
>running around
one does not simply run around in knights armor

>>5938831
Knights were fit enough to jog and do acrobatics in armor, it's not impossible to rule that out.

>>5938826
Also, constant risk of space born debris collision.

>>5938833
not a question of fitness, more of a question of shit articulation

>>5938831
Properly fitted decent quality knight armor didn't impede movement nearly as much as people think and you can actually run in it. The main issue was that all that metal and leather is heavy and you get tired out quickly.

>>5938813
Problem with knight's armour is that it's puny compared to a MS, so it would get worn down differently. Also, there were significantly fewer projectiles used in the middle ages compared to any gundam series.

Another problem is that there isn't a very good military equivalent to it, in terms of both size and roll. An MS is as large as a modern fighter jet, but seems to require a lot less maintenance than one. It's seems fitting to compare it to an AFV, but they're rather short in comparison, and the length is only about half of an average MS's height. Also, like >>5938826 said, it's bipedal and giant.

>>5938857
Would help to factor in that the killing zone is around the center of the suit as well, unless they changed to head based cockpits in the newer series. That alone seems pretty important, between focused enemy fire, and even just protecting the cockpit while doing normal things. Does the MS use or carry a shield on suit on a regular basis? That's a new variable.

>>5938840
>shit articulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q

>>5938840
The thing with knights moving like stiff jointed robots comes from hollywood. Actual knight armor is made of a bunch of individual strips and pieces of metal that shift and move so that they don't really impede movent. A knight in full armor could do jumping jacks, climb ladders, and dance if he wanted. And armor was heavy, but in terms of sheer weight it was about as much as the modern soldier has to carry with him.

>>5938813
Thinking about it, space weathering would be quite simple: impact from projectiles, damage from beam weapons, chipping around articulation points, and damage from CQC. Impact can just be lifted from AFVs, beam damage could be modified from AFV damage as well (and I'm sure there's a fair bit of online for it). Chipping around articulation points is self explanatory, and melee damage would would usually just be a crushed limb/head or shield, or an MS that's about to explode, in which case, this whole argument is kinda of stupid (weather that shit as much as you want).

>>5938893
A close melee miss, or something like a beam saber or heat hawk would probably cause some... thermal bloom damage? I think that's what it is called, to the nearby armor. I'm not very smart in general, but I really like this discussion.

>>5938813
I just realized. For a ground based MS, most of the weathering would probably mimic where you would get dirtied/injured if you were a soldier. I mean, the animators basically just take human actions and apply them to giant robots. Feet and lower ankles would be the more worn out, knees might be worn as well (shooting while kneeling), back might be scratched up from leaning on objects while taking cover, arms may be scratched up, chest and head would probably be newer looking. Weathering near joints where parts touch would probably also be realistic, but I imagine that the software makes sure that other parts of the body don't touch each other very often (eg. skirt and legs, arms and side of torso). Rusting probably shouldn't be very prevalent on an MS, as active military equipment usually doesn't have rust

>>5938826
>>5938857
>>5938893
one of the main reasons I mentioned knight armor was mostly to provide another perspective. perhaps a comprehensive study of knight armor can shed some new ideas on what areas might be more prone to some grinding of edges from just basic movement.

of course it is still not a perfect comparison, but to me it could just shed some new thoughts and considerations.

>Also, there were significantly fewer projectiles used in the middle ages compared to any gundam series.

with how often gundam fights turn into melee fests one wonders just how 'significantly fewer' projectiles there actually are sometimes.

>>5938920
As for bullet/projectile damage, beam weapon damage would only really be on limbs/head and shield, as a shot to the chest generally causes an MS to explode. There would probably be a lot less conventional projectile damage (unless we're talking IBO), but most of it would probably be on the shield and upper body, and would most likely be on the front/side (due to flanking where the shield wouldn't have gotten in the way).

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I guess this has more to do with the /toy/ gunpla/plamo thread than the one on /m/ so I'll ask here instead.

Have any of you guys built the recent Figure Rise Bust series from Bandai?

if so, what are your opinions on it?

I'm personally curious as to pic-related, but any feedback would be nice.

>>5938919
You would think so, but doesn't really seem to happen in the anime, so I don't know

>>5938921
I would assume that obvious points of articulation would have chipping, but the software controlling movement would probably try to minimize points of contact. Also , most melee fights in gundam usually end with an MS sliced in half followed by and explosion, stabbed through the chest followed by an explosion, or crushed followed by an explosion. Also, there's usually a lot of shooting before there's melee.

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Has anyone purchased the VF-31J Super Parts kit yet? I just picked it up and I'm scared this thing is going to have me cut up all the decals and plastic cement to install this thing.

>>5938919
Would be something interesting to see rendered, I can't think of any paint jobs that I've seen off the top of my head that have attempted to do something like a thermal bloom weathering. Closest I can consider is beam saber burn marks, but not like the kind of effect you get when you put fire near metal.

>>5938965
Yeah mines arrived.

I haven't built it yet.

You can't really "install" it onto an already built VF-31, unless you completely take apart the VF-31, which is really unfortunate.

Literally all of the super parts requires you to replace bits and pieces from the vanilla VF-31.

>>5938977
Not that guy but that sucks. Is it easier to install on a Messiah?
>>5937645
Oh well, the Super Parts don't complement the VF-31 as well as other models like aforementioned the Messiah in my opinion, so that's one less thing to worry about.

>>5937645

Bandai's 1/72 VF 25s were really great for its time.

Other than the Decals, I didn't have any major issues with the kit. As you've mentioned its a bit fragile in the transformation process, but all forms are stable as hell once you've finished transforming.

I guess it could have used a few more ball joints here and there, but other than that, I personally really like the kit.

>>5938987
Some of the parts of the various packs for the VF-25 require part replacement. Especially the additional armor/boosters/whatever on the legs and the chest-area. All of those are replacing parts from the vanilla VF-25.

I do believe the boosters and various bits and pieces that connect to the Wings of the Messiah can just be attached on.

>>5939007
Oh that's good to hear then. People have been touting the Siegfried's engineering and how it's miles ahead of the Messiah. Given the poor reception of the VF-1S kits and the mixed reception of the 25s themselves, I wasn't quite sure if theybwere just inferior in comparison to the 31 or just deficient in general. Thanks for clearing that up!

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>>5939126
the VF-25 is a pretty good kit, The standard problem I've encountered with them in general is that there are shoulder plates that don't sit well in fighter form and there was never any improvement to that part as far as Bandai's engineering during the Frontier kits release. Granted you could fix it with some kind of temporary fix like a tiny chunk of modeling clay on the inside of the part, but it felt like an easy problem to solve on Bandai's part.

The equivalent of such an annoying small problem in the VF-31 is the two small plates that go under the wing near the gunpods in Fighter mode and Half-Gerwalk mode. I don't feel like this problem was nearly as bad since I let a little dab of modeling cement dry on the nub and that ended up being a quick and more or less permanent fix.

Its the goofy small stuff that I personally find more annoying and I've found that the overall quality of the Bandai Macross line to be pretty decent.

However I have personally not touched the VF-1 series and have heard a lot of bad things about them.

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>>5939126
the VF-1s are a nightmare, mostly because of how the transformation works.

if you keep the VF1 in Fighter Mode, its pretty ok, but once you start transforming its just a huge mess.

The VF-25 is no where near as bad as the VF1.

>>5938965
Also I found a pic that will probably give you a better idea of how much you need to disassemble a fully built VF-31 in order to install the super parts.

>>5939007
Is that true of the vf-1 Super parts packs? Haven't built it yet but it seems to come with a 4 of both missiles pods and reactive missiles

>>5939145
>>5939160
Cool, good to hear. This has actually helped a lot, thanks anons. One more thing though, if I want to make Ozma's VF have Alto's red coloration or vice versa, are my only options to either swap out the decals from one kit to the other or git gud at painting?

>>5938560
>>5938567
Does that head come with the Mega Shiki? I wanna customize the Vrabe Gundam but I don't like the Vrabe head. I do have a Mega Shiki kit in the box though.

>>5938877
>the eye stab at 2:00

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5939344
Yes. It comes with a bunch of delta gundam parts.

The talk about weathering is about the most intelligent conversation this thread has ever had. Is there somehow a way to make that the op of the next thread?

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>>5938813
Just go with the Japs super beat up method.

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Just finished the mg Gusion Rebake, any suggestions for what to with the extra Gusion parts? I'm thinking if making a custom, but I'd be my first mg experience beyond snap building

>>5939494
who's gonna tell him

>>5939519
Go right ahead.

>>5939494
anon... the IBO line only has HG and non-grade 1/100 kits. There's a difference between 1/100 and MG.

Read the guide.

>>5936989
I've never seen people be so critical over weathering here in /toy/ Feels a lot like /m/ in here.
Honestly anon I think you did you a good fucking job. Don't worry about what someone says just because your weathering doesn't match what they perceive it to be.

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does geyreal actually come with this weapon?

should I wait for the mg?

there will be an mg right?

>>5939565
/m/ threads were so filled with negative energy that some of them migrated here

>>5939585

also you know who doesnt come here

>>5939560
Oh, oh. I done goufed then. [spoiler]I still have a bunch of Gusion parts lying around that I don't know what to do with.[/spoiler]

>>5939472
That kind of makes sense for a core fighter at least, going in and out of MS torsos probably damages it quite a bit. Although, it makes less sense if you remember it's also a plane, and those thing are constantly maintained and repaired

>>5939582
There's been no IBO MGs yet. You're going to be waiting a very long time.

>>5939565
It was said earlier- he didn't do it; It was done by some guy on 2chan

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how did this piece of shit manage to get featured by gg

>>5939599
you know what I mean

im going to say mg just to spite you

>>5939602
I'll treat this as motivation to git gud at panel lining

>>5939589
You and everyone else who bought it.

>>5938726

>going for the low angle shot

>>5939602
Is that the bastard child of the Hazel line?

>>5939565
I was the original poster, even I thought the weathering was badly executed. It was the ingenuity of the custom that I wanted to share.

I should have added a pic unrelated footnote to the post.

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Has there been any word about a Revive Zeta to go along with the Revive Shiki? I would love to pick up the three Hazel kits, HGUC Psyco, a Quel and a Zeta to build, but not if I'll be buying a kit that is obsolete when compared to a cheaper kit that comes out before mine arrives from Japan.

>>5939776
Yeah, I agree. The custom itself is pretty cool

>>5939565
The difference between here and /m/ is that everyone here who didn't like something about the weathering explained why they thought it was bad and some offered ways to improve. This in turn led to a larger discussion on weathering and people began thinking about how a large humanoid machine might sustain things like chipping under various conditions.

In short, constructive criticism was offered, things stayed on topic, and people had fun discussing that topic. Which is exactly what these threads are and should be about.

Also
http://dat.2chan.net/v/res/163697.htm

>>5939582
Looks like it's a weapon option set.

>>5938937
Fucking tits

>>5939797
Nope.

>>5939582
I preferred the name Gayrail, also no its an option set. I remember it's melee weapon being all kinds of shit.

>>5938726
Isn't Exia the first gundam of the 5 gundams?

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>>5938937
It gave a good excuse to do this.

>>5939589
What did was take the barbatos i fucked up, dismantled it's armor and its frame, modified it slightly and attached all the gusion parts to it. Bought a second Barbatos and barbatos 7th form, now I have a dual wielding cannon Rebake, A wrench mace barbatos touching maces with the other barbatos.

>>5939871
No idea, I stick to UC and G Gundam for my Gundam. Aside from Unicorn, that was awful with the exclusion of the Zeon remnants.

Goodnight friends. I hope your nubs are clean, your paint is watered and your campaign kits are what you want.

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>>5939893
>your paint is watered
>watering your lacquers

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So I bought some gunpla today.

This shit is getting ridiculously expensive.

They're also out of stock of the MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0, so not-silver Shiki will have to wait.

>tfw short 20 bucks for Impulse Blanche

>>5939273
pretty much.

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Built Kamiki Burning today and Panel Lined/Detailed him.

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>>5939995
Back/booty view

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>>5939995
Also did his sword because fuck solid white.

>>5939995
>>5939999
>>5940007
nicely done, especially on the sword

put him in some cool poses! this kit was made to strike kung fu poses and look awesome

>>5939987
Should have guessed as much. Thanks for your help, anons.

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I think I need professional help.

>>5940091
You sure do. It's going to be hard to fix your shit taste.

>no G-reco MGs
>no IBO MGs
What gives?

>>5940091
One of the better posers here though.

>>5940099
In what? Kits, posing or books?

>>5940100
Can't reuse parts from 10 years ago.

>>5940099
Shit taste? Those are some solid kits.

>>5940254

>solid

so is my shit

>>5940091
>safety blocks
Yeah, I'd say you need some help.

>>5940262
>Wah this guys likes different things than i do.
Enjoy the hobby my dude.

>>5940280

> I like [better] things than you do

I don't just enjoy this hobby, I love it

>>5939602
Lets call all things what they aren't from now on then.
Really Looking forward to the next PG 1/144 and RE/100 1/60 guys

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In case you didn't notice, BMC chisels might be getting discontinued (at least as far as export sales go).

There are very few left available for backorder on AmiAmi and HS and HLJ has recently delisted them altogether.

A few shops still have them, CDJapan (of all places) and Volks USA are the ones with the most decent prices and selection.

So if you ever wanted them, now might be the time.

>>5940323
Someone's salty

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>>5940323

ok sure, but why? all master grades are 1/100

ive never seen a 144 pg or a 1/60 re

>>5940330
Are they really that good? I've wanted a chisel, but couldn't justify the price for them.

>>5940362
Well, they are the sharpest I've ever used.

BMC literally saved my project once when I needed to chisel out some plastic during final assembly and everything was already painted and topcoated so applying any kind of pressure on the parts could scratch/crack things.

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>>5940338
>ive never seen a 144 pg or a 1/60 re
>1/60 re

Close enough.

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>>5938937
endless possibilities

>>5940338
>all master grades are 1/100

Not all 1/100s are Master Grades. Might as well say all Asians have small dicks, all Europeans are cucks and all Americans are fat lardasses.

>>5940397

yeah but not all small dicks are on asians, not all cucks are european and not all fat lardasses are american,

dipshit

>>5940403
Do you even have any reading comprehension?

>>5938937
I ordered Fumina. Tempted to order the Aqours girls but I'll wait and see if she's good or shit before I plonk any more money down.

>>5940397
Its not that all small dicks are on asians, but that asians have small dicks.

I cherish mine though

>>5940403
Water is wet

>>5940405

ive read a few books and shit. most of them were gay though

>>5940409

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_water

>>5940397
where is the lie

>>5940397
>Might as well say all Asians have small dicks, all Europeans are cucks and all Americans are fat lardasses.
Actually is really accurate.

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Just saw this on the p-bandai's website.

Can someone photoshop the top two panels into something along the lines of the [cant wake up] macro?

>>5940655
i see loss

>>5940655
I want this so bad

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South Australia may have a shit electricity system but this sale will defs make up for it

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>>5940655
I'm not really on top of my meme-game, something like this?

>>5940684
Hey, a Rick Dias! Cool!

>>5940693
Put [WAKE ME UP INSIDE] as the caption for the first panel.

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>>5940796

>>5940807
Perfect.

>>5940744
Yeah, back when I was getting into Gundam, I thought it was The O.

Its funny that they picked the Rick Dias, its not as well recognised as say, a Gundam or a Zaku.

>>5940007
Sword hilt/handle needs to be black

>>5940655
Shit, now I have to check what other cool non gunpla stuff P-Bandai has.

>>5940091
No, you just need to stop being a filthy snapshitter.

Hey, /tg/ here
I've been looking for something huge to add to my 15mm wargaming army and a 1/100 scale gunpla looks perfect for what I'm going for.

Problem is that I don't actually know anything about gunpla and I don't have the time or money to dive too deep into the scene, and I don't really want any models that have too much of the "gundam" look to them.

What's a good 1/100 scale kit for a casual like me to get ?

>>5940866
Check Dalong.net

>>5940866

1/100 scale Graze.

>>5940866
MG Zaku II 2.0

>>5940866
1/100 Tieren
Turn X

It really depends on the aesthetics you're going for, have you tried asking the modellers on your own board?

>>5940878
>>5940875
>>5940869
Thanks.
Another question, are plastic models good to paint? It probably sounds like heresy to you guys, but I'd want the model to match the army.
>>5940880
>have you tried asking the modellers on your own board?
Not a whole lot of people there know much about gunpla. There's not a whole lot of assembly to do in 15mm and the 20-30mm guys wouldn't be able to use this stuff with their armies anyway.
There's also a big difference between plastic and metal modeling that doesn't allow a lot of knowledge to cross over.

>>5940890
It's a model, of course it's good to paint. It's encouraged to, unless you're just a Gundam fan who likes them as is(although they do require some touching up then still).

>>5940890
Not painting is what should be considered heresy.
These models have more flat surfaces that could look odd if improperly handpainted though, so most people recommend airbrushing. Hand painting can still look good, though.

>>5940890
Yes, plamo can be painted/modified/reconstructed. No, its not heresy, you'll just get shat upon for a shit job.

Whats your army like

>>5940890
Make sure you read the guide in the OP, it covers a lot of this stuff and gives general pointers and tips.

>>5940890
Post pictures of your army for more accurate recommendations.

>>5940890
Custom colours if half the fun of painting the kit. Gundam "modellers" aren't really as concerned about accuracy as other scale modellers are. Since you're /tg/, these things should be pretty easy mode since none of the models require any glue and everything always fits together nicely.

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>>5940826
Thought of that but kinda like it in White for now.

>>5936720
[Dragon Blade intensifies]

>>5940912
I wish I could be as meticulous as certain scale modellers while building my own, but its really insane how much effort some of them put in

Paul is a good example, even gunpla only modellers should watch his videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tfemxce4c

>>5940091
looks like you got the B&N special.

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>that perfect shade of brown and color modulation

unf. Also, seems like this way of doing the fag's eyes are getting more popular, you can see the wip if you scroll down.
https://twitter.com/tenoyama/media

Though, how does he pain the skin without fucking up the remainder of the eye decals? Any ideas?

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>>5940338
>ok sure, but why? all master grades are 1/100

But they aren't though

>>5940973
Were you that
>>all hgs are 1/144
guy?

Because I'm getting some serious deja vu
I've just been in this time before

It's that time of the year again.
Post models with hats

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>>5941052

>>5940966
No idea, but that's pretty impressive stuff. Maybe he just used masking tape?

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>>5941052
>>5941099

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>>5941052

that's all my hats

>>5941099
>>5941103
>>5941105
A bit off topic, but what Windows phone are you using Anon?

>>5940966
So if I understand this right, he carefully cut away the actual eyeball part, put eye decals on strips of styrene (properly spaced), put clear lens parts over the eyes (probably from some company like hobbybase), and now he can just swap the eyes on one faceplate instead of needing like 3 different ones?

Damn, if I can do that I might not need to recast a bunch of face plates for gigantic arms afterall.

>>5941194
Yep, that's why it picked up popularity.

>>5941103
Made my day

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>>5940120
... yes.

>>5941194

even with the steps laid out, this still requires more dexterity and artistic skill than I currently posess

>>5941194
The guy in question used something from wave. He shows a pic of it if you scroll down. I'd be pretty interested in doing this, but I'm terrified I'd fuck it up.

>>5941245
>>5941244
Both gigantic arms and baselard came with a blank face and I never use those "looking left" faces anyways. Looks like I'm going to experiment as soon as I finish a couple other projects.

New thread: >>5941275

>>5940997
No, I'm the "lets call re/100 perfect grades because Fuck it.
And 1/144 had no grades, high grades and real grades

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>>5934653
Gundam fenice work in progress my genius self broke the right antena, guess whos gonna go buy super glue first thing in the mornig tomorrow? :''( (ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES) All and all liking this kit a lot not a fan of the wing gundam desing but this pleaces me for some reason