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Transformers General - Holy Fuck Computron is expensive edition

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Previous Thread >>5916853

I got way too slow to getting around to getting one.

all the major retailers are usually all sold out.

now what?
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Basically all your options cost 200$ now.

You can't wait for shit and you always need to pre-order takara shit because if it's a popular mold this always happens.
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>Make a new FM
>Don't have a transforming Unicron head that's compatible with FM, or Megahead Megatron
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>>5919219
I've never pre ordered before, I prefer buying them once they are in stock.
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>>5919286
Then don't complain you can't find anything. Takara releases tend to sell out pretty fast, and the sites that still have them up either sell them for way more (lol 94 bucks for Ginrai), are almost identical to their Hasbro counterparts, or end up getting 1-2 due to cancelled pre-orders (which end up sold out pretty fast).
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Still waiting pn titans return wave to In australia, Considering that I am only just nkw starting to see wave 1 consistently in store I imagine it is going to be a while yet.
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>>5919232
Wait for 3rd party
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UW Computron rerelease when?
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>>5919438
Literally never

enjoy
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I was hoping he wouldn't sell out so soon.

I should've gotten that one off of amiami last week. Oh well. The combiners never thrilled me anyway, but damn if he didn't look great by takara.
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I wonder how long before someone bitches that this character is a femmebot
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>>5919438
They haven't done that yet I doubt they will start now
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>Hasbrocucks will never have a perfect Computron
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>>5919460
who dat? looks cool
rid have some of the most interesting decepticons designs i've seen

BTW blurr party
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>>5919464

>"hasbrocucks"
>uses Hasbro Afterburner for an arm
>uses the shitty Blast Off remold into Strafe with the boring ass cartoon face
>no Scrounge

a "perfect" Computron mixes and matches from both versions
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>none of the other UW sets are hard to get
>Computron, the literal who of G1, is damn near impossible to find
>the LG shit never really sells out, can easily find most of it
>TR Blur and Scourge are damn near impossible to find

What fucking witchcraft is this?
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>>5919464
Looks good, but I'm not willing to spend 290 just to get a good Computron.
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>>5919466

Scatterspike, whose toy is gonna be a straight redeco of Quillfire.

she appears in the 2nd ep of season 3, which is airing in Canada. She's voiced by the lady who did Calamity Jane on Deadwood. She's one of the Scavengers trying to recover TF tech left behind on Earth
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>>5919460
why would anyone bitch?
She's the 3rd deception(5th in general) fembot in the show and she is neither played for cheesecake or gurl power
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>>5919470
weird, blur and scourge are both shelf warming hardcore round these parts
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>>5919460
No one since no one cares about RID.
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>>5919477
fanboys tend to call stuff like this "pandering to Tumblr"
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>>5919470
It's weird that Hardhead, and Skull are pretty easy to get on ebay, and they're below retail. It's from China, but still.
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>>5919470
We are at the high spending time of toys in general.
Mix of back to school college tards with more loan money than sense and the dog days of summer are closing so most people are focusing on indoor hobbies

It's a massive reason Hasbro delayed Titans Return till this window.

Also Everyone you listed has Major changes to the Hasbro ones with no clear sign of coming over here
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>>5919486
By that logic so was Strika way back in 98
No it sounds more like retards that are hoping backlash will happen.
It won't
We have had 5 years of gay robots and OC fembots
It's traveled it's road and only the damaged of the damaged are going to give a fuck either way.
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>>5919470
Takara versions are only imported and sold by international sellers in limited quantities. It's just how retail works in asian markets: They tend to only order enough wholesale stock to meet preorders and a reasonable amount of store stock and nothing more.

Most people look at the takara versions and just kind of go "eh I'm happy with the hasbro version", but once in a while some real bombshell, objectively superior Takara versions like Computron and Blurr come out, people go nuts for them and demand WAY exceeds supply.

>>5919483
Either version of scourge is alright but Hasbro Blurr just looks like crap. I really expect that guy to be a shelfwarmer.
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>>5919483
I'm assuming he means Legends because wave one of TR is out in full force everywhere
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>>5919466
>takara blurr
JUST
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>>5919493
Shelfwarmers so far seem to be Scourge and Skullcruncher. Most stores seem to run out of Hardhead first, Blurr's not too long after.

I remember seeing a TRU with 8 Scourge's and 4 Skullcrunchers.
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I guess now we know why Bisk and Clampdown of all characters got toys. It's they had remolds in season 3

the Clampdown redeco is named Clawtrap, they didn't name the blue lobster on screen yet
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>>5919487

They've got shittier faces and colors in the Tak versions, is why.
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>>5919467
>using the less accurate aerialbot kibble strafe with shite off white plastic
>muh obscure character that has nothing to actually to do with computron

fuck off hasbrocuck
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>>5919492
>By that logic so was Strika way back in 98

Actually she was.

Skir (and his writing partner Isenberg) said on his faq/website that he wanted more females (Botanica & Strika) on the show and had wanted Nightscream to be Newt (with bits of Sari).
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>>5919519

Strafe's design in the cartoon is hot garbage, and so is the Blast Off mold. Fuck accuracy.

lol, acting like any of the technobots ever did much more than Scrounge on their own.
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>>5919521
>wanting more female robots = tumbler pandering
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>>5919511
I've really been enjoying all the non-human robot modes we've been getting lately from the 3d cartoons
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>>5919537

me too

shame we aren't getting toys of Glowstrike and Saberhorn
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>>5919492
>that spacing style
>using that word retard
Comus. No one likes you. Go away.
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Daily reminder that this is your average takaracuck
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>>5919555
Has he moved on from sonic?
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>Scatterspike is a girl
What the fuck I hate Transformers now
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>>5919556
No, TF is just his secondary hobby
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>>5919555
You mean /tfg/ poster
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>>5919560
No
shit > takaracucks > hasbrocucks
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>>5919556
last i read was he tried giving himself a vagina and the wound was infected
then i fainted from the pics and forgotten what happened after
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Computron is already expensive as fuck? Shit.

Then again, I only wanted it for Scrounge, so...
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>>5919564

Takara.

Hasbro version is already dropping in price on Amazon and shit.
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>>5919567

Hm, good to know.
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>>5919564
Wrong one.
UW is 200+ now
CW has already had some price drops
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>>5919564
shut the fuck up boco.
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>>5919570

Does UW come with Scrounge?

>>5919571

Yes sir...
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>>5919564
Kill yourself faglord
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Generations Rattrap is fun as hell.

Both forms look great but I love how much poseability his beast form has it really has a lot of personality.

I always expecting his rat form to be a brick like Rhinox' rhino form, god damn am I glad I'm wrong.

I just need to clean up his teeth a little bit. there's bits of flashing on it and the paint apps are less than stellar to say the least.
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Anyone have TR Leader Optimus yet?

How much storage room does his trailer have? Enough for a Deluxe car?
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>>5919577
Please tell me you did the fix? You still have time if you've barely transformed him.
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>>5919581
the what
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>>5919581
what fix???
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>>5919582
The flap on his legs (robot mode) will eventually break due if you keep transforming him. You need to sand down that section to prevent it.

I'll post a pic in a sec.
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>>5919586
See those areas circled? You have to shave down on the hinge to prevent the pieces from snapping. Just shave it until it goes down flush, instead of with pressure.

You can't do it if he's in robot mode, you have to transform the leg a bit to shave it from behind.
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>>5919464
Still needs a crotch pannel to hide that damn gap.
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>>5919595
I see what you mean, the joint is really tight and I just noticed here that he's developed stress marks already.

which area exactly needs to be shaved?
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>>5919611
Here.
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>>5919091
I actually got to handle the UW today at the toyshow and holy shit I was gonna buy one IF I didn't find anything on my list at the end of the day but I found the ones I could afford with the budget so I just bought them instead.
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>>5919622
Okay.
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I wish more 'bots had lightpiping that was as good as Arcee's. Those fucking eyes practically glow.
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>>5919611
>>5919621
Not him but I've done this as well and if you have a razor thin enough to squeeze in between there, it's also worth shaving a tiny bit off the sides as shown here.

They won't cause breakage but I've found that on my rattrap they were way tighter than they need to be and loosening them up just a little bit makes trasforming him a ton easier.
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I don't think anyone was watching the bootleg thread so i'm going to post this here, a bootleg Brave Exkaiser God Max. Let me pry it open and see if any of the action features work. I think those are all tampos, not stickers.
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>>5919622

What'd you buy at the show?
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>>5919622
Are those gun feet?
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>>5919624
Mp Shockwave has ridiculous light piping

I was considering trying to insert an LED into his noggin somehow but I changed my mind when I actually got him. If there's so much as a tiny ray of light near him his eye will glow brighter than the freaking sun
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>>5919629
Hey you found one too? I posted mine last TFG.
>>5917871
>>5917875
>>5917889

They're really great. Surprisingly great.
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>>5919511
I thought we got Bisk toys because of all the positive reactions the design got when RiD15 was announced. It's like when we got UW Groove in Combiner Wars, or full Computron sets; HasTak had enough time to make those new popular-demand products before either toyline ended.
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>>5919623
You can talk shit all you want because even I didn't want to touch the UW cause of the price and that made me rethink getting one and this is coming from a guy who owns nothing but the CW stuff at the moment. The difference between the two is really noticeable.

>>5919633
I posted my hauls on the last thread >>5919168
, well the main ones. I also bought the PE feet from Bruticus since my buddy got me the UW and he's dropping it off on Thursday.

>>5919635
The guy has both the normal Gun Feet and the PE set he was showing them both.
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>>5919644
>You can talk shit all you want because even I didn't want to touch the UW cause of the price and that made me rethink getting one and this is coming from a guy who owns nothing but the CW stuff at the moment. The difference between the two is really noticeable.
No. I said okay because your post was essentially "I saw it but didn't get it" like you had an actual story.
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>>5919621
>>5919627
Thanks, the shins transform much more easily now. There's still a bit of a squeeze and I can't shave any more off without nicking the silver paint, but it's hardly enough to cause any structural damage over time

>>5919624
The one thing that's a shame about Rattrap is that the light piping in his robot mode is pretty bad. The plastic on his head is too opaque and his red eyes are painted on with translucent paint, not much light actually gets through
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>>5919636

Thats nice to hear. Unfortunately, I already chose my MP 'wave.

I thought MP 'wave had LCD's in him though?
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>>5919646
Well I had to go with what I interpreted on what your reply was. It didn't have enough context for me not to know you weren't being snarky.
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>>5919650
He does have LEDs for his canon arm and for his gun mode.
He doesn't have a light up eye or chest contrary to popular belief.
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>>5919656

Ahh, I thought he had it in the eye too. That must really be some damn good piping then.
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>>5919661
Yeah. Pretty much the entire back of his head is light piping.

If you disassemble his head and remove the light piping I think there's just enough room in there to fit an LED and a button cell so I think an light up eye mod for him would definitely be possible.
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>>5919654
Or just don't get so defensive that easily.
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>>5919638
oooo nice, mine is tuff as hell, too, not that cheap kiddy sand toy plastic. All tampos, no stickers. The back in combined mode is just sad, though. I should watch some Exkaiser and see who gets what weapons. Just realized its CALIGULUS! from one of Thew's Bootleg Only videos. I need to watch that again
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>>5919677
I wasn't being too defensive since I just brushed it off as a snarky comment and told you what my personal opinion about the matter. At least I didn't go triggered that just went on a cussing rant like some other people in this thread do when something passive aggressive in the eyes happen.
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>>5919644
>uw bruticus
J U S T
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>>5919689
F U C K
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>>5919580
Magnus could fit a car of that size. Not sure if prime can though
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>>5919689
It was on sale for $100 CAD on AmiAmi so yeah it's about 60% cheaper than retail and like 20% more cheaper than HLJ?
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>>5919672

Sounds like a lot of work to do something like that. And if you fuck up, a lot of money down the toilet.

I really gotta see what other figures I have with lightpiping like this though. Damn.
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Has anyone tried making a transforming cab for leader powermaster prime? Can the g1 cab fit in the chest?
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>>5919692
>>5919694
M Y
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>>5919695
Actually, the head is just screwed together and the light piping just slots in and out of place

The only hard part of doing that would be finding a yellow LED that fits through his eye hole, and from what I can tell people have done various LED eye mods on him before
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>>5919694
>it's cheaper so it's good
M Y
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>>5919699
No one's done anything, yet. It's even worse now that Ginrai exists, since they use different cabs.
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>>5919695
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Love your photos, poses and general great pictures you contribute to the threads.
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>>5919555
>Tumblrina trans sonichucon
>Casually uses a racial slur
Wow
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>>5919685
Calm down.
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>>5919718
>tumblrina
sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_and_race
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>>5919713
They're not actually that different. Ginrai's cab just replaced the front portion, the rest of it seems to be exactly the same.
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>>5919644
Ah, you were the guy at the table with the $5 lockseeds, right? I remembered you from TFCon and Anime North.

Here's my haul from the con
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>>5919683
The official is jet gets the wide sword, car gets the other, and drill gets the ax. But the swords don't fit unless They're given to the other. Ax is loose no matter who. And the combined weapon has the swords reversed from the official version too. I added some paint onto my jet and it looks a bit better though I need to touch it up once it dries. You can also fold the eagle head out on jets chest. The set is well worth $15. The combined mode is even bigger than a leader tf.
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>>5919730
Nice hauls also I don't remember talking to you at all but yeah were always those guys that is selling Kamen Rider and Sentai stuff.
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>>5919730
>medibots
I never knew how to play the game but I loved those figures. I've had the complete series on DVD for years but have yet to watch it again. I want a cyandog that isn't the model that falls apart so easily.
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>>5919734
>medabots*
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>>5919715

Thanks, I guess. I wish other Anon's posted more pics too, I enjoy looking at all of the crazy stuff people come up with here. Or just seeing what they go in general.
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>>5919743
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>>5919761
>>5919743
Hows Wheelie?

I'm not planning on getting him but he looks neat
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>>5919764

I like'em. However, a few known issues.

One is loose ball joints (anywhere). Mine had the shoulder ball joints somewhat loose, futureshine fixed it up.

Two was him tabbing together not so tightly in car mode. Mine didn't have this problem, he tabs together and holds solidly.
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>>5919460
They better repaint that Windblade. It's a great mold but I'm not paying deluxe price for a red blob.
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>>5919695
I miss light piping. I understand why TR and CW don't have them, but I really wish they'd at least give some to RID figures.
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>>5919773

Well, there is arguments for and against it. I mean, if the light doesn't hit it right, you get dead eyes.
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>>5919726
Man, part of me wants to follow that link, but the rest of me knows better...fuck it I'm going in
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>>5919795

You're a braver man than I, Anon.
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>>5919529
>blast off mold
>shitty

These are the sourest grapes ever. Strafe is the best Combiner Wars release... even better than Rook or Nosecone.
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>>5919822
The original Blast Off version is shite. The Strafe tooling is solid.
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>>5919555
I feel disgusted to share an interest with him.
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>>5919822
>>5919831
This reminds me, anyone ever figure out what was wrong with Blast-Offs legs and how to fix it? I'd love to fix mine.
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>>5919834
You share interests with lots of bad people I'm sure.
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>>5919838
Nope, not fixable. You should have waited for reviews you poor fool
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>Get G2 Menasor as first combiner
>Combined mode is shit (as expected)
>Turns out only Motormaster is satisfying individually
Fuck, I heard the Dead End and Drag Strip molds were good but they just aren't fun to me.

Do I sell the set off with a slight loss or get the PE set?
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>>5919889
Were you interested in getting other combiners to go with him? If so, pick up another team (any other team, save the ones with Optimus as the torso) and see how you feel about them.

If you end up liking them, then see about maybe getting the upgrade for Menasor. If not, maybe CW isn't for you and you should just sell them.

If Menasor was really all you wanted from the line and you ended up not enjoying them, sell them.
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>>5919889
Bruticus doesn't share a single mold with Menasor, so you should look there first.
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>>5919895
Seems like a good idea, I do plan on picking up Computron and Lynx Master eventually.
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CW is done and we couldn't complete the Super scarmble Destron.
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>>5919889

Well, do you want a better overall combiner, or is your buyers remorse too high?

I love my Menasor, but then again, I don't mind his faults. I probably should futureshine the feet ball joints though. He's so fucking topheavy due to his design and no amount of kits can fix that.
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>>5919909
If rumors are to be believed an Abominus is headed our way later next year or the year after
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Finally got to opening that Blurr and I really like his Vehicle mode.
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>>5919917
I can't imagine that being good for anybody, not geewunners, not people who just want a good toy, not anybody.

Hun-gurr could only be made from SkyLynx which means no robot mode, and there's no beast modes for the limbs
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>>5919924
>JUST
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>>5919926
Well I also have the Hasbro version still in his clam shell.
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>>5919925
This is assuming they don't pull a Highbrow and retool the everloving shit out of the standard combiner bots and give them fanmodes

Hungurr could be made from Silverbolt with extremely heavy retooling. Like I said, they might pull a Highbrow
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>>5919928
Ew

that guy needs paint, stat.
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>>5919924
Is that a fucking stress mark on the arm? My LG Blurr is still in the box and looks like that as well, except it's not as visible.
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>>5919930
It would be a nice DIY project later on but for now he stays in the clamshell and I play with the LG Blurr.
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>>5919931
>takaracucks are so retarded they can differentiate arms and legs
>takaracuck is a pepefag

>>5919930
>>5919932
>J U S T
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>>5919931
Nope it's just the reflection from my monitor. Another thing I was wondering is that why are the upper thighs of the Blurr Headmaster on mine is pinned in while my Skullcruncher is just a friction joint?
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>>5919937
Because you bought Takara
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I'm thinking if we get an Abominus, we'll also get Predaking or Piranacon. Alpha Trion was already supposed to be a CW mold (so Razorclaw retool potentially) and the limbs will probably be heavily retooled versions of each other. Like all the quadroped beast modes share like, two moulds each. Cutthroat and Divebomb share a mold and end up as straight repaints with the UW version being a retool. Rippersnapper and Blot are retools. Calling it now.
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>>5919929
>give them fanmodes
You do realize that it hastak did that then it's not a fanmode, right?
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>>5919943
How else you would describe fucking around with the figure to give it a "beast mode" to retool around? Mistransforming it?
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>>5919841
well he is in this thread, so yeah
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>>5919940
That doesn't make sense since they're both Takara, then again I wouldn't put it pass me that you're just trying to get a reply from me so here's a (You).
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>>5919950
>they're both Takara
Exactly my point
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>>5919933
>>5919937
I meant this part.
The one on mine certainly isn't a reflection.
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>>5919958
Hahaha holy shit, there's no way Takara QC is that fucking bad, is there?

I mean jesus, Takara Blurr may be shit but I didn't know he was that shit.
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>>5919958
Post a picture of your toy. That's way too fucking ridiculous.
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>>5919958
Its a reflection. Here it is when I was testing it on just regular flash. The plastic is quite glossy and smooth that's why it was reflecting my monitor.
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>>5919960
>>5919963
Turns out it wasn't in the same place, but there's clearly something going on there.
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>>5919973
Thank god, that would have been insane.
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>>5919974
>>5919975
Here's mine again on a better lighting in robot mode.
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>>5919974
>mfw seeing all this shitty takara qc as of late

First UW Bruticus, now this?
I can't handle the side destruction I'm taking
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>>5919974
That kinda shit is all over Titans Return, Hasbro and Takara.

It's why I buy the figures exclusively from Walmart/Target. I keep returning them until I get a copy that hasn't been thrown out of a second story window.
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>>5919980
Well that is why I usually wait for toyshows to get stuff because if I want the Takara for the most part I could still get it for retail and I could physically examine the product to the best of my abilities in person. If I just want the product, I don't mind pre-ordering it and just rolling the dice and see if they come perfect, acceptable, or something I will have to ship back condition. Thank goodness I haven't had a bad quality that I actually had to ship the toy back.
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>highbrow

Eh
Am i doing something wrong or his headmaster is supposed to be this loose in the socket?
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>>5920007
Yes, it's very loose. Same problem occurs with Scourge
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>>5920007
You're actually in luck if you get a good Highbrow, most of them are apparently loose.
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>>5920007
Exact same problem with Hasbro Highbrow as Hasbro Scourge. I have 3 of the scourges. Every one of them has the issue and all 4 have loose wrists.

Takara Legends Scourge is fine though

.>>5919937
It seems like some of the Titan master molds are just friction joints. I know the Horribull/Skytread mold is, as my Horribull keeps getting his legs stuck in the tank. But then the infinitus that came with sentinel prime has his thighs backwards/upside down, and he's pinned in on both points.

Whether it's by design or it's a QC issue, I'd have to have another look when I get home. It's the first time I've seen the point raised, but now it's mentioned it does seem pretty odd to me and I know some of mine are the same.
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>>5919555
Leave it to an actual autist to ask this shit.

g1 is Japanese, dubbed by americans, scripted by americans, but drawn by japanese from a japanese toyline, only now does it rail between the 2.
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>>5919555
It's pretty heavily american across most of the board

Toy Design - Japan (takara)
Toy Manufacture - China (who knows)
Box Design - American (hasbro)
Brand Design - American (hasbro)
Cartoon Concept - American (Marvel)
Cartoon Production - American (Sunbow)
Cartoon Animation - Japanese (Toei) & Korean (AKOM)
Cartoon Character Design - Japanese (Kohara) & Philipino (Dery)
Cartoon Voice Over & Sound - American (Wally Burr)
Cartoon Music - American (Robert Walsh)
Cartoon Scripting & Direction - American (Sunbow)
Promotion & Advertising - American (Hasbro)
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>>5920039
?
As a funded product its US brand
The toys themselves were a repurposed Japanese line but the show, comic, book and characters were all US created
The comic book was before the TV show and the books I think we're as well
It's rooted as a US property and has reflected so even today where Takara more or less just recyles whatever Hasbro developed (short of the MP line)
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>>5919555
A clock that thinks it's a microwave is still right twice a day
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>>5920047
>takaracuck in denial
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>>5919460

No bitching.

It was a pleasant surprise.

It's nice having a brawny rough and tumble fembot.
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>>5919543

That pisses me off.

also I'm mad Glowstrike didn't do anything worthwhile.

What a waste of Grey Delisle.
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How can you loosen tight ball-joints?
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>>5920077
Futureshine or super glue
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>>5919543
At least we got a Scorponok toy. It's probably the best Deluxe in the RiD line.
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RID Chopshop toy when?
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>>5920077
use shock oil or any other silicon based oil.
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>>5920068
Grey Delisle is never a waste. Woman has a godly voice.
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>>5920113

Her only other Transformers role was Arcee in ROTF.

They keep giving her nothing to work with which sucks.

btw I think she'd make a perfect IDW Arcee.
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>>5920115
I just remembered Arcee, Chromia and Elita-1 were all in RoTF.
Do they even do anything besides just stand in the background doing nothing?
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>>5920110
Could lithium grease work? I don't have any silicone oil handy
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My CW Hot Spot has a loose right outer hip ratchet, which affects his combined mode a lot. How do you tighten ratchet joints?
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>>5920120
Is it in a spray or a tube? If its a spray it might be mixed with something that could degrade the plastic.
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>>5920126
It's in a tube
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>>5920122
If it's a spring loaded ratchet, if you can disassemble it you can either stretch the spring or replace it with a stronger one to make the joint tighter.

If it's one of those weird all-plastic ratchets then you would have to work out some way of making the tooth press up against the wheel more tightly and that really depends on how the ratchet is assembled
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>>5920135
Yep, just took it apart and it's using a spring. Thank god for that
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>>5920118

They die if that counts as anything. lol
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>>5920142
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>its got a new hat

PC, RK, bbts has SG prime for pre-order.

Its just a hasbro branded repaint of mp10 with a poster, granted I like what they've done but I already have the best prime there is, and >>5920142 sums up my logic pretty well.

Being a geewunner actually saved me money for once
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>>5920142
That's extremes of any fandom
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>>5920170
This cancer needs to fucking die already
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>>5920170
>unironically admitting to being a geewunner
kys
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>>5920170
And yet the KO looks 10 times better.

>>5920173
I actually like Shattered Glass. What's your beef with it?
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>>5920142
Im always amazed how people get this 'us vs them' mentality about change.
Yes transformers changed but what does it matter? I had a great childhood with them and I enjoy the few nostalgic releases done but there comes a time you need to let go and move on to other parts of your life.

Obsessing over a childhood gone doesn't help anyone.
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>>5920195
>i like shattered ass
>i like funpub
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>>5920170
>>5920195
Both of those look great. Shame we will never get a cheaper version.
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>>5920142
I sympathies with the author. The 30th Anniversary movie release has really brought out the worse in the fandom. What should be a big celebration and enjoyment of the brand turns into this weird hate lust of bitching.
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>>5920195
>i like g1 edgy edition
Excuse me while I throw up
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>>5920170
Does it come with Roller and Spike? That's a deal breaker for me.
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So this might be a stupid question but is there a way to strengthen the plastic in figures?

Finally got a new usb Ravage to replace the three that fell apart when they were first released, and while I got it simply because I missed mine and love the novelty of the thing, there's no way in hell I'm going to pose it after I've seen three disintegrate already.
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>>5920170
I still don't own a MP-10, maybe I'll get this one.
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>>5920268
you can still find MP-10 for 150-200$ or so really easily everywhere

they made like 800 quintillion of them, they won't be scarce for decades and anyone trying to sell it for over 200$ is an idiot
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>>5920215
What's edgy about Evil Autobots and Good Decepticons?
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>>5920273
>le optimus prime so ebil xdddddd
>hahaha le everyone betray everyone le megatron is le good xdddd
Fucking edgy as fuck. Reversed factions is a cancer tier idea
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>>5920082
>LOOSEN
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>>5920246
Sadly no
Plastic is a finished cast with no room to improve
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Until I can get my hands on the Decepticon variant in the 4-pack, Bashbreaker is embracing his anarchical urges and teaming up with Quillfire
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>>5920278
So...it's basically G1, only in reverse?

I don't get your logic. Megatron was evil, bots occasionally switched sides in the cartoon (and comic books). I think you're just using edgy as a buzzword and not even knowing what it means. Also, using le and xddd? Opinion discarded. Fuck off back to Redit please to get your upvotes.
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EXTREME CROQUET
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>>5920278
It's a nice spin on things. Reverse Continuities are a fun way to see how things would have happened had they not occurred like in canon. No need to be upset about the tastes of another.
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>>5920282

Ah well that sucks but figured one of you guys would know. Thanks anon.
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If anyone ever wanted Victorion, she's on Amazon for $43 bux.
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>>5920284
It's G1 but in reverse and with extra edge in the form of Funpub's secret flavoring

It's Autobots backstabbing each other again and again and again and again while the Decepticons can do no wrong.

Actual plot and writing? Nope, only novelty. Sucks to be you if you wanted something with decency
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>>5920286

Alternative universes are one thing but the whole 'dark' version of our protag as a villain has been done to death.
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>>5920286
Reverse factions is even more done to death than mechas in anime with robots.
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is victorion worth it?
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>>5920295
If you can stand the color schemes and don't mind the set only having 5 unique molds, yes.

If not, no
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>>5920295
The use of the same helicopter mould twice with a different head is forgiveable because they can actually combine into a Windblade-style VTOL by sticking their splayed halves together

However, at least for me the colours are fucking atrocious. There is a nip version coming out which is basically a gestalt made of Decepticon waifus. Might be worth it instead
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>>5920283
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>>5920285
Hammer time?
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>>5920300
stop turning my pictures into memes
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>>5920290
>It's Autobots backstabbing each other again and again and again and again
I'm guessing you never read ANY of the Transformers comics, right? The Decepticons did that ALL the fucking time. Hell, I hate to bring IDW into this, but coat turning goes on a lot there too. Hell, ready ANY comic book of ANY franchise. The bad guys always back stab each other.

I literally don't understand what you want. No one is reading the fiction because it's Shakespearean in quality. It's just an interesting take on a franchise we all knew about.

I honestly think you just read a few criticisms that other people had, and started adopting it as truth while spouting buzz words.

Plus, the TOYS are pretty cool for the most part (IMO). I'm especially a fan of the color schemes and/or alt modes for the SG characters. And last I checked, this entire "debate" started with someone saying the TOY looked good.
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>>5920299
>The use of the same helicopter mould twice with a different head is forgiveable because they can actually combine into a Windblade-style VTOL by sticking their splayed halves together
Explain please. I have two helis and this sounds interesting.
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>>5920302

I can't help it.
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>>5920305
I suppose I should just embrace it at this point.
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>>5920303
>the toy looks good
>a shitty knockoff colored optimus prime with extra edgy Radicon tier weathering is good
Fucking christ, get some taste

Also "it's supposed to be bad" isn't a valid fucking argument. This trope is still overused to hell and back and will never ever be good. At all
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I find Shattered Glass to be a fun concept with poor execution.

I wish there were SG Beast Wars figures but that'll NEVER EVER happen. Guess I have to settle for repurposing T-Wrecks
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>>5920308

I wonder why more figures don't use the open hands with a peg hole molded in like that.
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>>5920315
No clue, but it certainly seems like a better way of doing it than clenched fists half the time. Perhaps clenched fists are just easier to fold away/transform.

Also to anyone who still hasn't jumped on Quillfire yet, if his leg peg feels like a snug fit file that goddamn thing down BEFORE the damage is done. Based Quilly has a tiny crack there now.
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>>5920319

3P's seem to love it. I think every MMC figure does the open hand 3/4th's hole thing.
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>>5920309
>>5920311
I think at the end of the day it's all just personal preference then.

Personally, I've ALWAYS been a fan of alternate dimensions and "what-if" stories. It's just something that's always interested me. You can do that to any franchise (TMNT, Power Rangers, etc) and make the villians into good guys and the bad guys into heroes and I'll be fine with it. I like the characterizations of MOST of the characters in Shattered Glass. Of course there are some cliche'd, boring, and predictable characters, but you can say that about characters from the Shattered Glass AND the original universe. You can't hit a home run every time.

So I'll just agree to disagree with you. I still haven't gotten a legitimate answer for WHY you don't like the SG universe aside from saying it's edgy and poorly executed. I mean, I'd like to know WHY you think it's poorly executed and what could have been done differently, but whatever. Like I said before, let's just agree to disagree.
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>>5920295
Went to buy it and was toy shamed. Fuck this shit so hard.
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Did anybody manage to snag the Superior or Menaslr sets from hts? Waiting on the shipping notice myself. 60 was way to cheap to pass up
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>>5920325

What the fuck is toy shamed?
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>>5919467
Why the fuck would you use Hasbro Afterburner? He's not even right for a toy colors version. And Takara's Afterburner is much better. Even better than Blast Off for some reason.
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>>5919500
>JUST

Make my shit better. amirite?
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>>5920329
Wanting to buy a toy and being shamed for it. Stuff like "Oh, that's expensive for a toy.", "Do you really think you need that?", "You are a bit old for those.", etc.
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>>5920334

If you like, buy it. You're an adult, presumably. I'm debating buying it myself, dunno if I want to swing the $40 given I already blew most of my "fun budget" on Despotron, but I also doubt it'll get that cheap again.

Then again I also don't really "need" Vicky, she's not really that important in the scheme of things, and I'm still trying to find a Tak Blur, Scourge, and Computron.
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Anyone here used Ages 3 and Up like ever in their life?

how are they?
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>>5920354
??
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>>5920354
Is that a dating service or something?
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>>5920142
Go fall down a well.
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>>5920364
>>5920365

online toy retailer.
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>>5920315

Because at small scale they're really fragile. Thumbs are like a millimeter thin.
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>>5920367
Butthurt geewunner detected
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>>5920392
>waah G1 sux it must be reedun or I don't like it

Butthurt reedunner detected
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I am really loving these Ariel Lemon upgrades for Galvatron.

Knocked off the stupid fucking cockpit that hangs off his back, then got the 3d printed GEEWUN helmet and sidearm cannon adaptor.

Hasbro might be actively avoiding giving us a decent G1 Megatron, but I'm glad they finally gave us a Galvatron we can turn into something respectable.
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>>5920396
But the G1 cartoon sucks. They're just toys, and you need to grow up already.
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>>5920142

My god, HE'S RIGHT!

Hollywood never makes anything original anymore!

Classics like Ben-Hur, Gone With the Wind, the Wizard of Oz! Everything's an adaptation nowadays, the innocence of our childhoods is long lost!
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>>5920403
Most stories where never original to begin with.
Regardless of the era.

It's not just a Hollywood problem, it's a storytelling problem in general
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>>5920286
I kinda like reverse continuities when the characters are more than just evil, they're literally their complete opposite. Shattered Glass Prime actually seems more evil than regular Megatron.
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>>5920400
>but I'm glad they finally gave us a Galvatron we can turn into something respectable.
Pic not related I'm guessing?
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>>5920403
Sure thing geewunner
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>>5920407
This.
Transformers plot was framed around the oil crisis of the late 70's/early 80's and was mostly just "buy our toys"

Most of it's depth and the shit we talk about now came from Beast Wars and other series that either didn't know the material or disliked it.
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>>5920142

So fucking accurate.
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>>5920414

Can't fucking stand the G1 cartoon. Cybertron will always be my favorite series.

The movie and some of the Marvel comics, and shit like All Hail Megatron is all the GEEWUN I can take.

>>5920409

"WAH EVERYTHING HASBRO TOUCHES IS SHIT!"

Yeah, you wouldn't be here right now if it weren't for Hasbro.
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>>5920419
>Yeah, you wouldn't be here right now if it weren't for Hasbro.
Pretty sure he meant the shitty helmet you bought for Galvatron that has horrible texture and even worse color matching.

At least that's what I think he's talking about. Shit, the Has/Tak helmet looks better than that.
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>>5920424

Oh. A bit of sandpaper and flat acrylic paint will clean that right up. DESU it doesn't bother me as much because it's not that visible in person. My phone is 21 Megapixel camera though so it catches EVERY.TINY.DETAIL. I had to cut the image down to 15% of it's original size before posting.
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>>5920415
>Most of it's depth and the shit we talk about now came from Beast Wars and other series that either didn't know the material or disliked it.
Well Beast Wars had it's fair share of "Buy this toy now" syndrome. I know that's what happened with Tigerhawk. The thing that helped Beast Wars was that it was CGI, so they literally couldn't keep including different characters into the show just for fucks sake (Like G1 did) because creating new character models was really time consuming and expensive. That's a big reason why Rhinox, Dinobot, Waspinator, Airazor, Tigatron and Blackarchnia didn't get Transmetal forms (though 2 of those eventually got TM2 forms).

As a result, the show had no choice but to fall back on its writing and character development...which turned out to be a great thing for the franchise.

The G1 cartoon was so shitty because of the animation budget (which was slim at best) and the fact that writers HAD to keep on adding new characters because of the toyline. Therefore, pretty much no one aside from Prime,Megatron, Bumblebee, Rodimus, Galvatron, the Dinobots, and the Constructicons got any type of character development. And even then, the character development was really thin.
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>>5920426
I don't think the camera is entirely at fault. The new helmet there just looks way too big. What that figure really needs is for a 3rd party to just make a new head for it entirely.
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>>5920434

I'd probably buy it. But it looks TONS better than the too-thick HasTak default faceplate helmet. I saw where one guy just detailed the "helmet" parts of Nucleon's face sculpt and it looked pretty good.
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>>5920041
>Philipino

I don't get why people starter using this and I just gave up telling them it's Filipino. Then again it's like one of the most unusual thing since you go fro Ph to F or not since Ph sounds close to an F.
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>>5920400
the helmet looks worse than the mask
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>>5920029
Yeah my Crashbash and Terribul is pegged in. I think my Nightbeat and Siren are the same as well.
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>>5920400
That helmet looks like shit, I'd rather keep the flipup mask.
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>>5920400
I saw one in person and the colors actually is close to the toy colors but in different lighting it changes colors.
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>>5919945
That's an official design which would not make it a fanmode b
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Well, at least the shitposting is more on-topic now.
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>>5920090
>the best deluxe
Nope. I like the toy, but nope. Even the new starscream is better.
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I woke up and this was waiting for me at the door. I wish they made a proper update to this and Six Knight after Six Shot. The 3p versions are a bit harder to find now.
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>>5920464

Yeah it really does look better in person.

And the people complaining about it being too big. It's a helmet/crown. It's supposed to be big.

Man, Transformers fans can be whiny bitches sometimes.
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>>5920479
Confirmed for the Speed Set.
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>>5920485
Oh is he? Damn now I get to have the original and an updated for double the fun.
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>>5920299
>>5920304

Seconding. I wanna see this combo.
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>>5920295
I do like mine personally.
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So I just picked up Ru-....the red decepticon cassettebot. Is there a trick to transforming the arms? That double joint on the front really doesn't feel like it wants to flip around. It feels almost like the pins are too far apart and the corners don't have enough clearance to navigate.
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>>5920518

No trick, you just fold it over. It's a pretty resistant joint.
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>>5920484
You seem more self defense then they do bitchy
The color is off and it's makes his head look bobbly
For the extra time and work you are at best putting a cherry on a turd
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>>5920514
Obviously. You post the same fucking picture in literally EVER TF General.
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>>5920536
Well I do like that pose a lot since I got no real time to fiddle with it since putting it on my shelf. Ok then lets change it up a bit.

Happy now?
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>>5920214
Huh? What happened?
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>>5920536


Post some pics bro. Liven things up.
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>>5920485
What do these sets include now again?
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>>5920540
>tries to take a funny maymay lewd picture
>background, flash and the fact that they're all combiners just make it look like an incoherent mess
>isn't resized either

lad
a black leather couch is no place to take photographs
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Anyone ever buy one of those knockoff MP Ratbats off ebay?

Having him would be nice but there's no way to get an official one outside of MP soundblaster and I don't want two Soundwaves. They really should have packaged Ratbat into the new Soundwave reissue
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Titans Returns
Wave 4
Titanmaster: Grotesque, Ranger, Hosehead, Arcee

Legends: Cliffjumper, Huffer, Seaspray

Deluxes: Quake, Krok, Topspin, Kup

Voyagers: Broadside

Leaders: Overlord.

Wave 5
Titanmasters: Battletrap, Repungus, Shuffler, Toraizer

Legends: Cosmos, Hubcap, Chase

Deluxes: Perceptor, Crosshairs, Slugslinger, Misfire

Voyagers: Octane, Blitzwing

Leaders: Skyshadow

Wave 6
Titanmasters: Optimus Prime, Ramhorn (as confirmed by Mr Chaos)

Legends: Freeway, Searchlight

Deluxes: Needlenose, Nightbeat, Blood, Carnivac

Voyagers: Apeface, Snapdragon

Leaders: Deathsaurus

Speed Set: Leader Quickswitch, Voyager Starconvoy, Fastlane, Nautica, Cloudraker, Titanmaster Thunderclap

Strength Set: Leader Magnus Prime, Voyager Tidal Wave, Iron Apex, Pounce, Wingspan, Titanmaster Powerhouse
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>>5920547

Not that Anon, but the bigger the figure, the harder it is to do anything with. Gravity is a whore.
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>>5920552
>>5920546
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>>5920547
I couldn't find my white or magenta sheet that I use for picture taking any more and I was just bored that night.

Also you do know how heavy and angled those combiners right? It was extremely hard to even get them in that position especially it was a sex pose that is just not natural for robots to do. You would know if you actually own any of them.
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>>5920546
see >>5920552

Basically there are like the G2 CW or Computron/Liokaiser sets.
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>>5920552
Super excited for Slugslinger, Nightbeat, and Needlenose.

I'm not sure if they'll call Bomb Burst "Blood", though. Which name is less sellable for Hasbro?
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>>5920430
When inflation is factor Beast Wars was more slim then G1 in budget

Also Hasbro was very hands off in both series
The Tiger Hawk debacle was due to middle men not making clear statements on what was and wasn't wanted
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>>5920563
They should call him blood burst, try to offend everybody.
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>>5920566
Not Blood Bomb?
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>>5920540
>Happy now?
Actually...yea.
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>>5920552
>Sea Spray
>Voyager Apeface
>Overlord

that's it
everything's gonna be alright
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>>5920552
>Voyagers: Apeface, Snapdragon

From what I heard is that the main reason Apeface even came out as a Titan master is that after Hasbro got the rights to his name they just had to release something with that name slapped on or risked losing the license to it if somebody felt like getting the rights to it and already had a product available to be called "Apeface" I wish Maketoys was trolled enough and actually did that so they officially could have called their MP-Not Apeface-- Apeface and Hasbro wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
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The original design for Red Alert, who eventually became Ratchet in Transformers Animated.
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>>5920552

Both those gift sets look like trash. I want Quickswitch, Nautica, and Tidal Wave, and theres gonna be no other way to get them than by buying these shit sets filled with useless garbage I don't want.
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>>5920552
>no star saber
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>5920586
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>>5920583

Still can't believe the red cross is a copyright-able symbol.

Fuck copyright law for being so retarded.
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>>5920580
It's possible that the headmaster for the voyager apeface might be completely different too and have a robot head and ape head mode
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>>5920588
I want something else other than the original and the MP anon
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>>5920593

Does Apeface have an IDW design? If so, that might be the head for it, in the same way Chromedome has an IDW-ized head.

...I should probably pick up a TM Harambetron now just so I have a more G1 toy-esque Apeface face.
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>>5920593
They would obviously make it so the headmaster turns into Harambe and Apeface. The Titan master just came out so he could keep his face, just like how Sony keeps pumping out Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man movies so Marvel couldn't get it back.

>>5920595
Fuck and the page refreshed while I was typing and I see you first mention Harambe, now my Harambe has a bit of a less impact. Blessed be Harambe, rest in peace.
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>>5920594
Get the G1 as well.
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>>5920598
That's I meant when I said the original.
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>>5920603
Oh I completely missed the "and the"

Well we can only hope for a CHUG one that is not based on the IDW since Star Saber is literally Superman with swords in Japan.
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>>5920594
There are two versions of Star Saber in the Robot Masters line. Pick whichever one tickles your fancy.
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>>5920077
dry soap
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>>5920302
Stop posting them.
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>>5920552
>still no bodies for Headmaster Jrs
Thanks, John. Saving me tons of money.
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>>5920632
>Nightbeat.
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>>5920552
So which set do you guys prefer, Speed or Strength?
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>>5920637
In both sets the only ones that concern me are the deluxes, and I want them all.
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>>5920637

Neither. Both contain one or two things I want, and it's mixed with stuff I'd never touch.
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>>5920637
I JUST WANT TIDAL WAVE DAMNIT

I also deeply regret not getting the Grand Galvatron set for Armada Thrust.
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>>5920607
>Not IDW
Whats wrong with Gundam Saber? (as a toy design).
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>>5920637
If the toys are not shit I would want all of them.
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The fold-over bits of my TR Rewind are SUPER tight to fold over, any advice?
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>>5920655
The plastic is thick enough also if you just got it from Walmart/Target/TRU just play with it and if it breaks just return it.
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>>5920552
And this is all the confirmed news?
Geez, my area just barely got wave one.
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>>5920652
>Whats wrong with Gundam Saber?

Viability of turning him into a working toy for mass production? Look at Skids and IDW Bumblebee and you can see the record there for HasTak is really mixed for Milne designs.
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>>5920659
Thanks that's a suburb long term plan of action with no situational assumptions whatsoever
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>>5920671
No clue what you meant but the plastic is really thick that it was my first fears when I got my Rewind but I've transformed him so much now and he's still fine. I bring my Rewind almost everywhere because he is the only Transformers I have that is both modern and is freaking compact to a size of a TicTac box.
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>>5920552
>Tidal Wave and Nautica are in different box sets
Fuck everything.
Sour grapes better save me now.
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>>5920652
WANT
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In terms of colour scheme between Hasbro and Takara MP-10, which one is most preferred?

I heard that a Hasbro MP-10 reissue might be coming, but it could also just be the Shattered Glass version.
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>>5920662
>still countless CW Wheeljacks. Only TW deluxes are Scourges and Blurrs with the occasional Skullcruncher.

Suffering.
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>>5920583
Neat. Really like the Medusa look, it's actually pretty ironic.

Source?
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>>5920583
>she

Is this the basis for Animated Red Alert cause she is my Animated-waifu?
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>>5920769
Yes, that's generally what concept art is for.
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>>5920695
>one of my Wal-marts has four CW Wheeljacks, four Scattershots, and four Onslaughts
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>>5920682
pretty much the only notable difference is the color of blue plastic on him.
Takara is darker, hasbro is more vivid.
And roller is blue on the hasbro version and silver in the takara version

The eyes are also slightly better on the Hasbro version

Honestly the differences on him are so negligible that you can just pick either or for whatever stupid reason you can think of.
Like, I bought the Takara version of him because I like lining my walls with boxes and I think Takara MP boxes look nicer than Hasbro MP boxes.
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>>5920655
If it makes you feel better, Rewind's crappy gray plastic is definitely less crappy than Rumble's super crappy red plastic.
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>>5920332
No, it's "cuck my shit up"
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>>5920400
>Knocked off the stupid fucking cockpit that hangs off his back, then got the 3d printed GEEWUN helmet
Fucking why?
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>>5920442
Because the country is the Philippines, not the Filippines.
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>>5920876
Just call them Flips.
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>>5920876
See that's the thing, it is really unusual but grammatically it's Filipino. I know since I'm one of the resident Flip-Bacon anons here.

>>5920884
Or this, even though originally apparently Flips were also a form of racist insult but now flips use it as their word for nigga.
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I want a CHUG Ironhide. Should I just go all out and pay the premium for the Henkei version of the Universe mold? That blue face and orangey red plastic look terrible.
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>>5920905
Just don't even bother with that mold. Wait for someone to do a proper Ironhide.

It's funny how we're getting a proper toy of Deathsaurus before we get a proper toy of Ironhide, isn't it?
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>>5920905
It really comes to what you feel your Ironhide is. Personally I wouldn't buy him or the CW version but those are the only decent at the best Iron Hide we got in the pat 30 years that is not a 3p.
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>>5920911
Unless Deathsaras is a double Breast Master that wouldn't be the proper version.
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>>5920914
I hope Overlord comes with two headmasters, one IDW styled and the other anime styled.
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>>5920914
>muh victory
Oh fuck off, I bet you complained about CW Rook because "not muh geewun"
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>>5920924
I actually own a rook and I find him to be one of the best CW OC deluxes. I am quite indifferent about the media of the series especially 1~3 but yeah I'm more in tune to muh gee wun Japanese but still I love what they're doing with Six Shot, the main Headmasters guys, I respect why they're making the power masters headmasters too. I would just prefer that if they redo Deathsaras they give him justice and not just make him lose all what made his character great.
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>>5920911
Maybe I should just get the universe one super cheap to test the waters? I've heard some people liked the mold okay. Then I can use it as a test subject for doing all those ironhide mods
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>>5920953
Just... don't. Spare yourself the misery
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>>5920905
There's an Ironhide from Transformers Prime. Technically not CHUG but it's not bad.
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It's time to admit Ironhide had a shit design for a toy and he'll never have a good CHUG, it's the masterpiece or nothing.
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>>5920953

Buy the MP? Or do you not like MP's?
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>>5920959
Even the MP looks like shit. It's amazing how such a popular character hasn't ever had a single good toy.
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>>5920959
CHUG involves redesigns. He doesn't need to look just like the g1 model. Just needs the windshield chest and shit.

>>5920962
I don't really like how it looks and I don't have an MP collection.

>>5920958
Isn't it short as fuck, though? Like FOC Shockwave tier?

>>5920956
It's really that bad? What makes it so bad besides the ugly transformation seams in altmode?
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>>5920967
His design makes it impossible.
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>>5920975
You look at the robot mode and you tell me.
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>>5920820
>pretty much the only notable difference is the color of blue plastic on him
Incorrect. The Hasbro version is simply cast in red plastic, while the Takara version is cast and then painted in red. It lends him a much higher-quality look, and a richer tone in him look like an MP instead of just a toy. Also, the joints on my Takara version were about a million times better. Spin all the bullshit you want about "THE SAME FACTORY" but my Hasbro Prime could barely hold a pose, his ankles were so weak.

The fact that almost nobody mentions these difference between the two is proof that the average Transformer collector has almost no eye for quality.
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>>5920975
>I don't really like how it looks and I don't have an MP collection.

Thats fair. I'm only just sort of starting one myself, if only by accident, because some figures you'll never see done well outside of MP's, like Hotrod, or you'll just NEVER see again because of the changing times, like gunMegs.
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>>5920982
Have your (You) lmao
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>>5920990
Refute one single thing I said. You can't.
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>>5920982
Or possibly that only the most autistic of collectors own multiple versions of the same TF and most people don't get much in-hand experience with any toy
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>>5920993
>[THING]
>Ok, thanks for letting us know
>PROVE ME WRONG AHAHAHHAHAH
Ok then...?
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>>5920993
You got it wrong. You're supposed to prove yourself right by stating facts, not by proving that no one can refute you.

You can't refute a non-existent point.
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>>5920998
People don't get much experience with multiple versions of the same toy, rather.
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>>5920982
The truth is they are made in the same factories, even takara toys have their faults, my mp ramjet can attest to that.

Even so you're correct with mp-10 (well, in a shared opinion point of view since when I first came to /tfg/ this was the exact arguement I saw often), despite having better eyes and truck cab lights painted the loosened joints really hold him back.

Why this happens I don't know, but one thing is certain, you aren't safe with either company unless you just want more paint
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>>5921013
>but one thing is certain, you aren't safe with either company

This. Same factories, you're gonna get boned either way at some point. Just because you get a good copy, doesn't mean another will. All you can do is hope you get a good copy, and if you don't, that wherever you bought from has a top tier return policy.
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>>5920988
Yeah, Combiner Wars actually got me so bored of mainline stuff that I considered getting into MPs but then Titans Return came out and I love that line.
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>>5920998
>this is a thread about Transformer enthusiasts on a board for fucking toy-loving men
>LOL CARING ABOUT THINGS IS AUSTISM
Try harder next time.

>>5921009
FACT: Takara MP-10 is painted red, not just cast in red
FACT: Joints were tighter on my Takara version. Many others will attest to this, too.

I'm just trying to give someone the actual truth about MP Primes. Yes, the blue eyes and painted clearance lights are a one-up on the Takara version, but LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE about the Takara version is better.
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>>5921017

I loved CW. I love TR too so far. I think people are not realizing you're going to be balls deep in repaints in TR too though.

I actually hope to nab an MP Prime next month. Maybe. MM's SDF Omega Supreme looks great fun and only costs a few bux less...
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>>5921018
I'm not calling anyone here autistic, I'm just saying that the only people who would typically own multiple versions of the same toys are the people that have the need to own literally everything and actually get to experience near every toy and every version of them in hand.

It's reasonable for casual and less avid collections to only look at and be familiar with aesthetic differences because they'd only be familiar with one version of something.
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Requesting robot nakadashi.
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>>5921026
>I'm just saying that the only people who would typically own multiple versions of the same toys are the people that have the need to own literally everything and actually get to experience near every toy and every version of them in hand
This is entirely beside the point. It doesn't matter what "kind" of person would own both versions, why even bring it up? What matters is that if someone hasn't had both in hand, they shouldn't be eager to share opinions. And if they DO have both in hand, and fail to mention the Takara versions better joints and paint, then they are doing a disservice to the person who is asking. Which is why I brought it up.
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>>5921023
To be fair, TR already seems to be having varying transformation schemes. Since every had to have a robot, vehicle, arm, and leg mode, most of the molds were based around the same general transformation frame
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>>5921013
>The truth is they are made in the same factories, even takara toys have their faults, my mp ramjet can attest to that.

Different anon but this is true, Same factory different ways of making the plastic. I was talking to guy who works with plastics and has been in the plastic business for over 10 years now and he told me that Takara and Hasbro uses two different kinds of plastic for the modern Transformers and this is why he misses the era when it was practically the same quality all across the board.

What Hasbro does nowadays to make it cheaper is that they use more of the re-grinded and recycled plastic that are left over from the sprues of their other products. This is fairly common in the industry and thus the ratio for the new pure plastic to the regrind is around 70 regrind to 30 pure. Takara on the other hand uses more of the newer plastic and less of the regrinds that's why you will feel a noticeable difference in the plastic feel and quality and what makes them a bit more expensive.

At the end of though it is the same people making it so QC is still going to be dodgy. The only thing you can really attest for the most part is the plastic quality.

It was a fun lesson from him cause he actually was showing us both Hasbro and Takara toys to us while explaining it.

Still this won't change my feelings for the toys and will still buy what I like. It was just a good knowledge to know.
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>>5921059
Lately I've been seeing multiple copies of the same toy having stress marks in the exact same location, right out of the package. So I honestly think there's something wrong with the machinery they use. Clumsy factory workers probably won't mess up all the toys in the exact same location every time.
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>>5921073
Because like I said, the plastic is different but the factory and people making them are not. The issue is also it being a mass produced item so you know if they're making a couple thousands of each, I would think it is realistically that the person checking the QC would miss stuff here and there since they do work on quotas.
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>>5921073
I'd imagine stress marks like those are merely a result of engineering oversights and that it's literally impossible to assemble or amnipulate the plastic without causing stress.
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>>5921080
That is true as well since we have gone from a culture that values quality over quantity to the point of companies having to pump out products as fast as they can because it would upset their customers if they can't get their hands in the newest product in their hands as soon as possible.

Nowadays it's consume consume consume.
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Where's our hillbilly farmer transformer that turns into a tractor?
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>>5921109
You'll take your mob boss deerman tractorformer and you'll like it.
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Posting this for anyone who cares. Searching for Combiner Wars on Amazon gives a Victorion that's valued at 42 dollars. It's almost certainly an error, but if you're still on the fence about it, but want the figure, then here's your chance.
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>>5921126
That listing's price has been falling steadily all day, it's not an error.
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>>5921109
Thunderhoof or Scoop? Scoops even comes with his inbred kids.
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I bought this for my son to play with...and he LOVES IT!
Very durable and my 8 year old son is having no difficulties manipulating the Transformer.
Transforms nicely into all kinds of cool stuff. Even comes totally apart for even more cool stuff!!!
We are not collectors...but the box it came in is collector quality for sure with clear panel viewing area and so forth.
Well worth the $300.00 price tag....
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>>5921154
gr8 b8 m8 i gib 8/8
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>>5921154
>$300
>sells constantly for $200 on ebay

If legit you got jewed m8. Glad you like it though.
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>>5921157
>>5921158
It's an Amazon review.
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>>5921154
>spends $300 on a toy for an 8 years old
Just buy him a playstation or something. Damn.
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>>5921255
New thread
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We all know that Legends class are the simplest to Transform, while MP ones have the most tedious transformations.

Which MP has the simplest Transformation then?

Is it Bumblebee and the cassette bots?

Are the MP Seekers the most time consuming transformers?
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>>5920874

Because the cockpit piece is a piece of shit addition that only creates a clusterfuck "third mode" I'll never use anyways, and it impedes the poseability of the artillery mode. And if I ever want I can just put the helmet in his chest cavity and flip out the stock helmet for a more IDW-ish look.
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>>5922059
The nosecone just weighed him down in the back anyway. My TR Galvatron has super weak ankles already.
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