MARVEL GENERAL: Not enough Venoms edition

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I really wish Spaceknight came with an alternate more classic Venom head.

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>>5895510

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>>5895525
Here's both Hobgoblins

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>>5895519

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>>5895528
All the Spider-girls so far.

>>5895531
Talk about getting your money's worth out of a single mold.

>>5895510
You'd think if there were one figure people would custom cast a new head for, it'd be this one.

>>5895531
>hasbro

>>5895535
Silk and spider-bitch are on a different one.

>>5895531
I know she uses a different mold, but where's Jessica Drew's delicious, SJW-infuriating booty?

>>5895510
>>5895537
I saw someone the the fwoosh widen the gargan venom headpeg and put it on this guy and it looked pretty great. I'm going to try that myself.

Thoughts on the last dozen BAFs?
Odin, Hobgoblin, Hulkbuster, Absorbing Man, Red Onslaught
>glad to get them
Thanos, Ultron, Rhino, Abomination, Juggernaut
>prefer the Marvel Select versions
Giant Man
>too small (hopefully gets a 12" Legends)
Space Venom
>undecided
Dormammu
>looking forward to him (missed out on boxset)
My wallet is happy that I skipped half the BAFs

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I'm a little late but i'm gonna hop on the Pixlr bandwagon.

>>5895564
Stop

It looks like garbage

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>>5895561
I only have Spaceknight, Rhino, and Hobgoblin.
Spaceknight and Rhino are great, Hobgoblin looks fine, his articulation is awful.

Some other ones I wouldn't mind having are Hulkbuster, Giant Man, and Thanos, but I don't care about them or the figures they come with enough to get them.

I also kind of want Dormammu, purely for Superior Foes jokes, but he's not worth that price for a few funny photos.

>>5895561
I haven't completed any BAFs so far.

I might complete Dormammu, I want him for when the rest of the Superior Foes are released.

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>>5895561

>Great tier
Groot, rhino. Groot could have used a neck hinge and non-gummy arms, but he's pretty much perfect aside from that. Rhino might not be my favorite legends figure overall, but he's damned close.

>Pretty good tier
Hulkbuster juggernaut, and onslaught. HB and onslaught are alright, they just needed more paint. I don't regret either of them but they could have been top tier easily. I can't pin down what I don't like about Juggernaut, but he's just on the edge. Maybe if his ankles were a little better.


>Meh tier
Ultimate green goblin, hobgoblin, thanos. Thanos should have been way better, his articulation is the only downside and it's terrible. I still don't know how they fucked it up that bad.

As for stuff I haven't finished, I wish giant man were bigger and didn't have that derpy looking head. I've got half of his pieces but he still doesn't feel worth it to complete. Dormammu looks nice, but I'll probably have to buy a completed one off ebay because the rest of his wave is meh.

>>5895531
Anya has become a grail for me, even though I don't even care about the character that much. Its just that I have all the others but could never find her in the stores. All I ever see on ebay are ones with jacked up paint.

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So here's my original "spiders for the spider-god" picture

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>>5895667
AND NOW EVEN MORE SPIDERS FOR THE SPIDER-GOD

>>5895656
It's so weird, she shelfwarmed at the targets nearby me for so long. Until maybe the hulkbuster wave came out, the pegs were full of her, ultimate beetles, and winter soldiers. I think the paint thing is pretty much universal though, I had a ton to pick through when they finally went on clearance, and the one I got still had a jacked up mask.

>>5895656

Anya was the only one I bought, back when I was getting 6" spiders.

I prefer the 4" figures now, I'd trade my Anya for a good MU figure or 3 in a heartbeat.

>>5895671
Was it worth the $400?

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>>5895698
I like to think so. I used to buy a ton of Bionicle, but since that ended and the reboot wasn't all that great, I can focus on Marvel legends (Still only the characters I want though)

>>5895740

Do you own Ultimate Spider-Man?

>>5895751
I do now. Both of them.
>>5895671

>>5895531
Did they improve the articulation on the Space Venom wave? That mold is frustrating to me since it has potential but is so limited compared to Spider-Man.

>>5895754
Would you consider buying a second Ben Reilly Spiderman to have both display options at once?

>>5895740

how is the articulation on the new ult? can we get some poses

>>5895767
Nah. The Silk and Spider-bitch articulation is alright, but Gwen's is still garbage, especially around the chest area. Can barely move forward or back at all.
>>5895769
Nope. I like Symbiotes more anyway, and I honestly prefer the hoodie version of Ben anyway.
The only reason I even bought Ultimate Peter was because he's an alternate universe version, and if I wanted the rest of the wave and the BAF, I might as well get him.

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>>5895577
#nofilter

>>5895773
Pop Gwen's chest off of her abdomen then either dremel away some of the plastic surrounding the peg's socket or just whittle it away with an X-acto blade. I got an extra 1mm around the circumference of one of those bodies once, and that was plenty. Not nearly as good as something like the curvy body used on Rogue, but still good.

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>>5895772
Really nice. Loses a bit of shoulder movement since there's no butterfly joint, but the legs can move around a ton.

Here's my attempt at the Marvel vs Capcom pose everyone likes to do.

>>5895667
>>5895671
>>5895740
It'll always be hilarious how hasbro could literally do a solid year's worth 100% spider-people waves.

>>5895793
How hard was it to pop that joint off? And how cheap is too cheap for a dremel if I were looking to buy one? Amazon has one for like 13 bucks, is that gonna be too shitty if all I'd use it for is on toys?

>>5895797
>calf swivels
Oh, so Hasbro took their heads out of their asses and realized how shitty ankle rockers are without something as rudimentary as a fucking swivel above it. Glad it only took them until -after- they released what should have been the definitive Spider-Man to realize it.

>>5895797

Looks nice, anon.

I myself wanted an Ult. because I wanted a teenage Peter Parker, Infinite Series Spider-Man was too tall for my liking.

>>5895793
While I'd like to, I'm way too worried about permanently screwing her up somehow. She was super hard to get for retail price for me, so I'd rather not risk it. I'm even too worried to repaint things like Big Time spider-man even though I really should.

Have the Space Venom or Abomination waves been sighted at mass retail yet? I think I've heard about Space Venom dripping out, but nothing from the Abomination wave just yet.

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>>5895836
Seen the Spaceknight wave at a walmart in Canada already. Canada seems to be almost all caught up which is a big surprise. Haven't seen the X men wave yet, but I even saw this 3 pack at Toys R us.

i got the legends venom just for the hell of it. the second head was a bitch to get on

>>5895806
It comes right out with a little heat. The problem is carving it out. $13 for a dremel is probably okay--I had a bunch of different cutting tools for mine, but I was way to sloppy on another figure, so just worked at it with a fresh X-acto. Make a bunch of shallow passes with the blade and you're good to go only a few minutes later. Popping it back together is just as easy with heat.

I actually just pulled apart the orange/blue Iron Man that came in the Civil War 2-pack with War Machine Mk III to do the same thing with its torso restrictions. If you've noticed, that mold had trouble bending forward. I got it apart easily, and shaved down the excess plastic (it actually does have excess plastic around in inside of the abdomen), but getting it back together is incredibly challenging. Maybe once I strip the orange paint something will loosen and make it easier to get together.

>>5895934
Cool, ordered it. Hopefully the same trick works on rogue and silk as well.

>>5895970
Rogue should have good range out of the box, as with any character on that body. I wish you luck with Silk. The same trick should work, but that Wasp/Hellcat body is a little tougher to get apart and together than the teen body. If just say to avoid messing with Silk's torso and focus on shaving some plastic off the inside of her elbows.

>>5895671
Hold on, where's Jessica Dreq Spider-Woman?

>>5896077
She not part of the Spiderverse

>>5895806
>a solid year's worth
So.. two waves?

>>5896077
>>5896084
She was actually a part of the Spider-verse event, but I don't count her as part of the spider-family.

>>5896093
It just seems weird when you have like literally everybody else I dunno

>>5896095
I don't have Superior Spider-man either, because I hated that story. Superior Venom only gets a pass because I'm a huge symbiote fan.
To be honest though, I'd probably pick up Spock if I ever saw him for really cheap.

>>5895807
Bitch, bitch, bitch...

>>5896135
I take it Hank was roboracist as usual

>>5896043
Rogue has great backwards movement at the waist, but virtually nothing forwards. Ditto for silk, but yeah, I'd probably start with one of the spider-girls.

>>5896147
I'm pretty sure that's Deadpool, anon

>>5896101
You really should pick Spock it's literally the best Spider-Man figure best hip articulation and the ab crunch is insane

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Saw this at Toys r Us recently.

>>5896171
Canadabux or freedomdollars? I'd actually be really tempted if it weren't so goddamned expensive, 60 feels like the max I'd pay considering it's just plastic.

>>5896176
Canada.

And is it just plastic? I thought it was metal.

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We got the Falcon/Winter soldier exclusives at my Wal-Mart tonight, here's a protip for anyone looking for them.

They're cross referenced with the x-men legend wave/spot, not the civil war legends. So have the employee scan those to check for on order/ in transit items to see if they're coming.

>>5896183
Amazon says plastic.

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>Wait forever for a Shocker figure
>Get movie shit instead

GODDAMMIT

>>5896171
Odds that this gets marked down (in Canada). Also why the fuck do Canadian retail stores not mark down shit like in the US? So jealous of hearing US bros buying figures for cheap.

>>5896229
>marvel finally gets to have spider-man in the mcu
>it's looking like it's gonna be the worst spider-man film yet

fucking monkey's paw

>>5896229
it'll prob get the black panther treatment, just wiat for cg senpai

>>5896229
Christ. Hopefully that's his prototype costume and he gets a better one later on in the movie.

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>>5896229
I mean just look at this skinny bitch

Shocker has a costume that is pretty hard to translate to film but he deserves better. Marvel is usually good with their costumes too.

>>5896229
Considering how ridiculous the original costume is I thought that was a pretty good interpretation

>>5896239
...until I saw the face. That's awful.

>>5895564
we don't come here to look at your artsy fartsy shit.

>>5895561

>Odin
OK U guess got the job done, I means its Odin.

>Thanos
Trash, sold it, got the Marvel Select

>Rhino
Solid enough, I dig him

>Absorbing Man
OK I suppose, good way to get a figure that deserved big swapping parts out there.

>Ultron
Garbage, got the revoltech instead, little short, but really nice silver and face.

>Juggernaut
Something feels off with him. I dont know if I like him enough to keep him or not

>Giant Man
Id be more happy with it if they made a 4inch movie line, but he's too damn small, but I love giantman. If the 2 inch figures ever clearance out enough that'll be fun.

>Hulkbuster
Affordable, bulky, a bit too bright, but it's a fun figure.Scales with Hulk, not much more I could ask for from a BAF

>Abomination
Looks too much like green rhino, seems small, makes me want the select. Funny how hasbro BAFs just make me want select figures instead.

>>5896229
>>5896239
I... I dont understand what everyones complaining about. That looks like shocker so whats the problem? Cus it's not 1:1 comic accurate? Havent weve been over this enough?

>>5896343
I think his arms are a little twiggy, and his goggles look a little goofy, but otherwise I have no major complaints.

>>5896229
I mean, we got a movie Electro and classic Electro, so there's still hope for Shocker getting a classic figure.

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Please, Toys R Us!
How I can I resist a bargain like that?!

>>5896370
Was this in Michigan?

Has anyone gotten the baf juggernaut wolverine? Mine's hands come out way too easy. Is there a way to make them harder to pop out? Just twisting the wrist barely can guarantee at least one coming out.

>>5896375
Southern New Hampshire, actually.

>>5896379
Mine's like that and I've seen it mentioned in several reviews, so I'm assuming it's universal.

Are they claws on yours even, though? My right hand is fine but the claws on the left anchor in all wonky.

>>5896340
>Funny how hasbro BAFs just make me want select figures instead.
I like the Groot BAF well enough but I badly want a Select version.

>>5896380
Oh cause I saw this at my toys r us as well

>>5896379
Put a thin coat of super glue on the peg, put it in and keep rotating the peg so it doesn't get glued stuck. Should be tighter afterwards

>>5896370
They didn't even leave in the shield for Cap. Those bastards.

>>5896379
YES!!! I just got Wolvie myself today and noticed that his hand holes are way too big for the pegs. I'm going to put some Pledge Future floor polish in mine to get the holes tighter.

Now if I can just the middle claw on his right hand straightened...

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>>5896385
A comics accurate of the DNA version would be pretty great.

Bug Marvel Legends when?

>>5896383
They're solid, except the middle one on the right hand is bending inwards significantly more than the others that I just give him one regular fist and a clawed one.

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???

>>5896393
Yeah that's the Select Groot I'd want.

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>>5896343
It looks like shit. Not being 1:1 to the comic has nothing to do with it and I don't understand why people keep pushing this meme every time someone says they don't like a costume in a live-action film based on a comic.

>>5895561
I've only completed Abosrbing Man and Rhino. I really like Rhino, but indifferent to Absorbing Man. I also got Abomination from the Raft set and really like him too.

Anyone get both figma Hulk and the new legends Abomination? How well do they scale with each other?

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Found this today at target...da fuq!

>>5896234
I'm really looking forward to the black Mary Jane Legends figure.

>>5896093
Didn't she die? I thought she was one of the ones who didn't survive the closing of the Ultimate universe. Its a shame because I actually liked the idea of her, even if it was never properly handled.

>>5896229
>>5896239
I don't think it looks bad. About what I expected from Shocker in film to be honest. Looks similar to Crossbones too so I'm not sure what everybody's so shocked about.

That being said if we get movie Shocker before we get a comics Shocker I will be...unsure of how to feel. We never get MCU villains so it'd be a surprise to get one buuuuut I'd like a comic Shocker to go with the Superior Foes. If we're getting a villain from this movie it's probably going to be Vulture since he appears to have the main villain role. I mean why on Earth would we get movie Shocker that would cost a lot of tooling when we never get MCU villains, let alone a secondary one?

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where is it

>>5896551
Pretty sure he's talking about 616 Spider woman. I have Ultimate Jess in that pic.

Just won a Raft Spidey for $32 shipped. Feels good, man. Now if only I can find a Deadpool at retail.

>>5896551
>>5896564
Yeah, the one with the baby and the butt

>>5896561
All Mezco figures coming in September where all pushed back by about a month.

>>5896673
This one was August.

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Got MS Colossus at Hastings death knell prices, freaking love this Russian lug.

>>5896200
does the knife Bucky come with have a sheath? I know the pistol doesn't holster anywhere but I was wondering about the knife.

>>5896778
Nope.

>>5896441
Rare variant!

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I know its a long shot, but I think it would be really neat to have a Cloak and Dagger Legends figures.
I'm not sure how they would do Cloak's cloak though. I figure Hasbro is too cheap to make it posable, so they would probably do it like Vader's cape.. He doesn't even need any acessories or anything. Just give him the Vision-esque body type and paint it solid black.

Dagger should come with her signature light arcs that can just plug into her open hands inbetween the thumb and forefingers, and the daggers of light could just clip on to the arc. Give her the spider-girl mold.

>>5896441
>>5896787
The elusive battle damaged Iron Jameson!

>>5896800
Careful how you wish for things, we might end up with the MCU versions from the show coming up

>>5896836
The MCU was a mistake

>>5896836
We havent gotten a MCU Daredevil or Punisher yet, so im keeping my fingers crossed

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>>5896840

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>>5896846
About that

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>>5896886
but we also have a comic book frank

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>>5896800
Sadly they will probably go with their newer look. Cloak with gold trim that glows for some reason and less lewd Dagger.

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>>5896893
I havent read any of the new stuff, but I heard what they are in has been terrible.

Honestly, if they arent like their '85 designs, they should be like this. They are like 16,17 years old after all. One thing that I find is that comic book artists cant draw teenagers. They either look too old or too young, but this picture I found really looks like they are in high school

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>>5896898
> but this picture I found really looks like they are in high school
NOPE.
Looks like 20 year olds to me, but they're supposed to be that age anyway. They've been around too long.
Ironically, the Runaways actually do look like teenagers.

Also, you need to find better comics if you think comic artists can't draw teenagers. Lots of them can and do.
Pretty much every artist that gets put on the Robin series draws teenagers well. Pretty much any comic starring kids/teens draws them as they should.

>>5896898
Recently they were colorswapped

I think they got that cured though

>>5896905
Ultimate Marvel had everyone looking as if they were in their late 20s

So with the Ultimate Spider-Man figure having dropped, I had the very stupid idea of tracking down some of the older Ultimate Marvel releases. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of all the Ultimate Marvel characters released through the Marvel Legends line? Specifically Ultimate Spider-Man. The ones I already know of are:

Spider-Man/Peter Parker (Space Venom wave)
Spider-Man/Miles Morales (Space Venom wave)
Spider-Woman/Jessica Drew (Hobgoblin wave)
Green Goblin BAF
Beetle (Ultimate Green Goblin wave)

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>>5896930
?
Maybe the later series, but Ultimate XMen and Ultimate Spider-Man had everyone looking their age when their series were new.
Everyone here is in their late teens and look it.

>>5896412
It looks like a live action shocker. He's got the color scheme, the pattern, the gauntles..
it's like youve never seen set photos before, a lot of the times they look less cooler than they do in the movie. That could also be a stunt doubles costume,

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>>5896412
/co/ loves it, why can't you

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IT'S HERE.

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>>5897107
As usual the posablitity is great.

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>>5897113
They also gave the switch cover a hinge which is unnecessary but nice.

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>>5897114
That's all I was able to take but I can do requests. He also has a thigh swivel too.

>>5897107
>>5897113
>>5897114
>>5897117
This has no place here. Anons in Marvel Generals only care about hasbroshit

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>>5897206
Oh shut it. I like Marvel legends because they're relatively cheap and make figures of characters most other companies probably wouldn't, like the Superior Foes or Nova.

That doesn't mean I don't like other figures.

>>5897206
>only care about hasbroshit
>ignoring the figuarts ant-man
I may prefer other companies because of the articulation and accessories (I.e. hands) but hasbro legends are slightly getting better.
At the very least they have multiple hands now, and they also do characters that won't get figures by other companies any time soon or at all.
I'm thinking about getting Morales.

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>>5896998
he's black

>>5896183
TRU has the metal one on preorder for $350

>>5896748
My Hastings is toast on MS. I almost got Lizard but he just doesn't look good. I did get ML Taskmaster and wow he's worth $13 any day.

>>5897229
Ainsley, is that you?

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>>5896167
Was thinking of selling mine.. should I just open him and keep the dude?

Dorkside has a wave of 8 of iron fist and a wave of 8 of enchantress up right now. Is that normal?

>>5897357
How much you thinking of selling him for? I might be interested. You can even sell the BAF part separately if you want.

>>5896932
Toybiz had a few Ultimate figures.
Spider-man wise I can think of only Ultimate Rhino

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Is it just me, or are movie scarlet witch's proportions... weird? I first noticed her legs are super long, but now that I look closer it just seems like her torso is tiny compared to everything else.

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Really wish he had more hands or something.

>>5897510
The figure just seems really 'plain' to me.
Like it looks good and definitely looks like movie ant-man, but it's just so boring?

>>5897516
His articulation is a huge plus, especially after the horrible legends one from the first movie. He just needed more hands.

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>>5897516
I can't really say, most marvel toys I've ever owned have been hot toys. I just wanted a really articulated ant man to play with, and it's my first figuarts as well.

The only thing I don't like is the lack of accessories. Another set of hands why the button pressing, one with a little Rhodey in it. Though he didn't have many props in the movie.

>>5897501
The jacket isn't supposed to come off man. They're not gonna sculpt a proportional/full-size torso inside when a thick jacket sculpt is gonna lay overtop it. It would just look way too bulky.

>>5897567
Lack of accessories is what made me cancel my preorder for him. The Rhodey hand idea is super neat. They also could've included the shrinking/growing disks, an unmasked head, and a partially open helmet.

>>5897577
They could always rerelease it as Giant-Man and change the red highlights to blue and add in Rhodey, maybe even a tiny Spider-Man.

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>>5897592
Wouldn't put it past them. It'd probably be an exclusive.

>>5897278
Don't think I'd ever feel comfortable paying $350 for a Hasbro product.

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>>5897577
Yeah, I sorta realized that after I posted. I put it back on and I still think her legs are still super long though.

>>5897567
Yeah, he really looks barebones, especially when you compare him to some similar toku releases. They could have easily tossed in more hands, and he even had an unmasked scene in the movie that would have been a great alternate head.

>>5897357
Dude you can sell that by 30 or so like it's not even worth it, my as well enjoy it

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>>5897637
The actress does have pretty long legs, especially with heels, which I assume Scarlet Witch is wearing as well.

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>>5897643
>that pic
wew

>>5897595
I don't get why anybody would buy this if they already have the first one. I know bandai is only doing it because mafex did theirs but I don't need an Adam driver face on my kylo.

>>5897652
I've been debating it, honestly. I've wanted an unmasked Kylo since the film came out and this looks to have the best likeness, but like you said, I've already bought the first one and I'd hate to buy the same thing at a higher price. I'll only end up getting it if the Mafex turns out bad.

>>5897643
Is that AJ Applegate

>>5897664
Elizabeth Olsen

>>5896932
Throughout all their six inch lines these are the Ultimate figures I've found

Spider-Man Classics:
>Ultimate Rhino
>Tail Attack Lizard
>Web Splasher Doc Ock
>Secret Identity Spider-Man

X-Men Classics:
>Ultimate Iceman
>Ultimate Nightcrawler
>Ultimate Sabretooth

Marvel Legends
>Ultimate Captain America(Toybiz Series 8)
>Ultimate Iron Man
>Ultimate Wolverine
>Ultimate War Machine
>Ultimate Captain America and Ultimate Nick Fury (Two-pack)
>Ultimate Captain America (Hit Monkey wave)
>Ultimate Beetle
>Ultimate Green Goblin BAF
>Ultimate Spider-Woman
>Ultimate Peter Parker
>Ultimate Miles Morales

Movie strange doesn't come with thwip hands?

so I got a legends venom just because it was relatively cheap. Im liking it, but i'd like to get one of those clear stand things.

does size of the figure matter for those? any you guys can recommend?

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I want to grab either this year's SDCC Spidey or the entire box set, but is it true that you can't use the Hobgoblin wave Spider-Man's hands with it?

Because it would suck to have him stuck with a fist and web shooting hand.

>>5896998
Because /co/ is full of cucks

Amazon has the entire Dr Strange wave available for preorder if anyone is interested.

>>5897853
Not without modifications. The pegs are too large for the Raft Spidey

>>5898015
What kind of modifications? I'm assuming either shaving the pegs, or somehow widening inside the arm, right?

>>5898011
Holy shit thanks. I grabbed Movie strange. That's one less to worry about

>>5898011
>>5898043
I keep thinking I should pick up a nico because everyone says I should read runaways and I have a hunch she's gonna be hard to find later. This is berserk all over again.

whats a good price to pay for marvel select anti venom?

>>5897698
Damn, thanks for the legwork anon.

>>5898127
he's new on amazon for ~25 shipped.

>>5897698
I liked those X-Men Classics figures but never got any of them.

>>5896800
>I know its a long shot, but I think it would be really neat to have a Cloak and Dagger Legends figures.

I actually think it's not that much of a longshot considering both are in the Spidey cartoon and Hasbro has been pumping out figures from that cartoon in the Spidey waves.

Dagger is yet another easy reuse of the female teen buck. Dagger could be the BAF for that particular wave.

>>5898160
oh shit, thanks. Im at kind of a problem though.

I really like good articulation, and I also happen to really like the Legends Venom. Legends Anti Venom looks like shit but select has fuck for articulation.

>>5898166
I have both. If you want something perfectly in scale with your legends venom get legends anti venom so he'll be the same size. If you want some impressive sculpting and don't mind a taller anti venom, get the select.

Honestly I'd recommend the legends just for the fact that he fits with venom perfectly. Probably cheaper, too.

>>5895525
Why is Rhino fighting an Eva Unit?

>>5898271
I'll probably get both at some point I guess then.

I decided on getting Select Venom. Size doesn't matter to me if its just a bunch of the same character.

Thanks for the input though!

>>5897639
>>5897366
I opened him, but if anybody wants the baf leg I'd get rid of it dirt cheap

>>5895561
Hulkbuster, Red Onslaught and Giant Man feel like they were the only one's that had any real thought put into them.

Juggernaut, Abomination, Hobgoblin, Absorbing Man and Rhino are ok but none of them feel like they are a baf since we get huge figures like Hulk packaged single

Odin and Dormammu have next to any poseability, the fuckers can't even sit right
Thanos is also limited but not as extreme
Space Venom is like Thanos but it's due to poor engineering rather than bits getting in the way.

I like the gesture of bafs but very few feel worth it
Hell most just seems to be a slap in the face.

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>>5898310
I somewhat agree but I feel like Giant Man suffers from some weird fat belly syndrome from certain angles.

Onslaught to me feels great and I really love Rhino for some weird reason. Probably because you have two options and the articulation on it is flawless.

>>5898310
>but none of them feel like they are a baf since we get huge figures like Hulk packaged single

I can't help but feel like this is cherrypicking a little. Hulk was from way back during the first avengers movie, and I can't think of another single carded figure we've gotten since who was close to that size. Hobgoblin felt like a ripoff yeah, but rhino's beefy as hell and juggernaut is second only to hulkbuster.


>Odin and Dormammu have next to any poseability, the fuckers can't even sit right
That's actually really disappointing to hear about dormammu, I was looking forward to picking one up. What in particular is limited, the legs?

>>5898054
Lets be honest, just look at her design. It doesn't matter if her comics are good or not, she's total bait for waifufags. She'll be hardest one to find from this wave. Neckbeards can't resist a cute goth girl.

>>5898310
I dunno, I was actually super disappointed with Giant-Man. He's not big enough to even feel worth it. I'd rather just wait and hope they do Ant-Man in their 12" line.

I'm mixed about Hulkbuster. The figure itself is cool and I love the weight and articulation of it, but the paintjob is just so simple it seems cheap. I ended up just giving in and preordering the Mafex Hulkbuster.

Red Onslaught is tops and I'm liking the look of Dormammu so I hope he's not as disappointing as you make him sound. Abomination, Thanos, Rhino, and Juggernaut just feel entirely pointless due to the MS being so much better, but I do like Rhino's goofy charging face. Was expecially disappointed in Thanos since I like that look for him, but he turned out smaller than expected and his final paintjob was much worse than when they initially revealed him.

I like a lot of Hasbro's individual figures better than toybiz, but goddamn I miss the toybiz BAFs

>>5898435
>I ended up just giving in and preordering the Mafex Hulkbuster.

I hope that figure is better than literally any other figure Mafex has put out. Because, man. Mafex figures are not good.

>>5898442
I like their Batfleck and Ledger Joker, but yeah, it definitely feels like a gamble for a figure that expensive. But I wanted an MCU Hulkbuster that was better than ML but not as expensive as Bandai's.

>>5898435
>>5898442
I really don't wanna start a company war trollfest this early in the thread, but man, you might want to rethink that. I was really tempted too but trusting mafex QC on something that expensive is asking for heartbreak.

>>5898460
No worries mate. Like I said in the above posts, I know it's a bit of a gamble but I'm hoping for the best. Either way, I did it through amiami so it's too late to change my mind without making them mad. Don't have a decent camera, but I'll make sure to report back on how it turns out when I get it.

>>5898460

Really, I'm not a person who tries start company wars. I think every company/line/whatever can have some merit, whether its price point, or features, or articulation, and I think it is kind of dumb to try to compare figures at totally different price points and whatnot.

I actually wanted to get the Mafex Hulkbuster too, but I just can't bring myself to do it after all the horror stories. The only Mafex I have is the Mk. 43, and while nothing flat out broke or anything like some people have had problems with, he does have pretty floppy leg and torso joints, some questionable paint apps and stuff. It was almost 6500 Yen for that figure, and I feel like the Figuarts figure is superior and it was 4500 Yen. Similarly, the Mafex Mk 45 is 7500 and I considered getting it, but I already have the Figuarts which I also got for about 4500.

I just don't see the point risking that much money on figures that are pretty questionable, and even when you get a "good example" of the figure is on-par with figures that are $20-$30 cheaper.

The Hulkbuster is a little different, though, because the Figuarts is kind of a collab with the Chogokin line, and has some die-cast and lights and stuff in it. I kind of wanted that one as well, but spending that much a figure in this scale is kinda eh. And I don't really care much for putting a ton of die-cast and lights and gimmicks and shit into a figure just to inflate prices anyway.

>>5898360
dope photo

>>5898420
Runaway and A-Force ARE both pretty good though tbf

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>>5898371
Dormammu is one of my favorite Marvel Legends i own. Yea his legs are slightly limited but he's still awesome as fuck. You should definitely pick him up

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>>5898685
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>>5898694
iight that's it for now. excuse that cardboard box, had to improvise at the time

>>5898697

>>5898685
>>5898688
>>5898689
>>5898690
>>5898694
>>5898697

>Someone who is actually not-shit at posing
>Makes these static, mediocre figures look dynamic as fuck
>Display area is literally cut-up cardboard boxes and Styrofoam

Oh well. Can't win them all.

>>5897516
It's very vanilla. Would have liked to see a Paul Rudd head, maybe a button pressing hand where it looks like he's pushing the button on his glove to shrink. Maybe a tiny truck that he gives Cap to throw.

He didn't have a lot to do in the movie, but he needed more than just open hands and fists.

>>5898699
yea theres no styrofoam involved though. it was just an old worn down dresser that i had and decided to put some of my figs on. glad to say i dont own that shitty dresser anymore

Mezco Daredevil Shadowland will be up for preorder in 4 hours.

http://www.mezcotoyz.com/one-12-collective-shadowland-daredevil-exclusive

>>5898711
Damn, if it was more accurate to his current run in the black costume then I'd throw down the cash. But I'm happy with the regular red costume I have preordered

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>>5898711
>shadowland box
holy fuck
This makes me want to buy a character i normally dont buy

This is on par with Hasbro's god tier collector packages

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Last thread, myself and another anon had complaints about MCU Falcon's bland colors, and expressed interest in panel lining. I tested out a brown 005 Micron on Cable's torso, and a black Micron on his belt just to see how it'd look. In person it actually looks alright, and the brown matches the color of his tattoo and scar. It just doesn't stick as well as I'd hoped. I need to track down some Pledge/Future and try the acrylic panel line method in the Gunpla guide to see if that sticks any better. If it does, I'll wind up lining Falcon, Cable, maybe some parts of Taskmaster, and Deadpool's belts.

>>5898699
>>Makes these static, mediocre figures look dynamic as fuck

Not hard to do when they're all on stands

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>>5898697
>Superior Spider-man "fighting" Ock
I see what you did there.

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>What do you mean "acting weird and creepy"?

>>5898689
what black panther figure is this? it's not the legends sentinel series, is it?

>>5899282
Looks like the rocket raccoon wave panther, with the toybiz cape.

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Should we get a new Scarlet Spider figure, or is this one good enough?

>>5899295
I love it but lack of hands.
I can already see they are gonna use the sunfire body we just saw or the spider UK body for it's release in late 2017 or 2018

>>5899295
>bullseye body

we need a new one

>>5899061
What the fuck man. You are making this way to hard. Go buy some Testors acrylic brown paint and a fucking detail brush. You aspie shits do things the hard way with poor results.

>>5898685
>>5898688
>>5898689
>>5898690
>>5898694
>>5898697
Great posing, man.

I really wanted the hooded Scarlet Spider but those cheap sticker gauntlets are swaying me away from him. Would it be possible to take Spider-Girl's sculpted gauntlets and put it on Ben?

>>5899508
yes but you will likely have to cut them to fit. It make them removable but it won't be a perfect circle unless you plan to mold a new gap together
You could also heat them up and force them on but it might risk splitting

>>5898761
FUCK!

I just paid the NRD when I realized their regular DD has more accessories.


;___;

>>5898694
AWESOME!!!>>5898697

>>5899282
what >>5899290 said

>>5899363
>>5899570
thanks

>>5899295
We will probably get a new scarlet spider costume with the upcoming clone event. Considering ML has been on the ball with releasing new spider-man costumes I'm sure we will get it as well.

>Batroc had a daughter who only appeared in one issue and she was killed to death who was also a cute blonde.
Now I feel bad. His feeling of Gwen Poole being like a daughter is based on the one he lost.

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i got this little lightbox setup for shit

>>5895510
Does the head from the legends venom fit on there? because that would look perfect.

Also, does anyone know how I can put an ankle pivot on my select venom? He's almost impossible to pose with just the hinge

Is there an Iron Spider Marvel legends?

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>>5900168
if youre looking for the good old silver iron spider theres only this shoddy web trap spiderman

there a good one but its in 4 inch scale that came out this year

civil war iron spidy you got spiderman classics line, not the best but its functional

>>5900158
I bought some revoltech joints to do just that with a DCC Talon and a Ml War Machine mk 2. It's harder than you'd expect, especially if you need to fill gaps

>>5899537
NRD?

>>5900177
I'm sure war machine is pretty difficult since you have the leg armor covering up the joint

>>5900168
There's the Spider-Man Origins figure, but that's it for 6 inch figures. And word is it's pretty shit.

>>5900176
Iron Spider refers to the suit Tony gave Peter during Civil War. The silver suit is the Spider-Armor Mk. I.

>>5900177
Oh bummer really? I wanted to upgrade that Talon so bad

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>>5900168
>>5900184

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>>5900184
as a kid me and all my friends called it the iron spider man so I naturally refer to both of them as the same thing. personally, causes alot of confusion sorry, thanks for correcting me

>>5900192
That's rough, I'd like to see a modern version of the figure in another Spidey wave, maybe it'll be one of those unannounced figures from the '17 wave.
>>5900193
Ooh, this outfit would be a good one too. Loved the '90s cartoon. There's probably a dozen or more costumes I'd like to see modern 6" legends of

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>>5900223
same here they recently released the 3.5 inch which I hope they upscale to 6 inches sometime soon, same with noir

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>>5900223
>There's probably a dozen or more costumes I'd like to see modern 6" legends of
I'm still hoping we see every costume from the Spider-Man PS1 games.
It's unlikely but a man can dream.

>>5900179
Non-Refundable Deposit

>>5900254
ah ok. Why does it come with less stuff? is it cheaper or the same price? Why didn't they just include the other headsculpts?

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>>5900176
>>5900193
Speaking of armored costumes...

I would love a legends Armored Daredevil

It's one of my all time favorite hero costumes. Haters can suck a bag of dicks

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>>5896886
I fucking LOVE that Bernthal Frank is getting his own figure.
>mfw he will likely come with 1 gun
Good thing I built up a collection with my Terminator and other assorted marvel stuffs.

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While we're talking about armors we'd like figures of, Ends of the Earth Spidey when, Hasbro?

>>5896891
You mean the recent Marvel Legends Jim Lee Frank, or is there a new Frank coming?

Has anyone put Ultimate Spidey's head on the Pizza Spidey?

>>5896886

Did they show a Netflix DD off? Seems like he's long overdue for a figure. Why did they show off the B list Jessica Jones instead?

>>5900340
I assume they're saving the DD reveal for later. They probably just wanted to show off their all-new female mold.

How did some of you slice Punisher's trigger finger?

Did you heat it up first or just went straight to slicing it?

>>5900313
The Mezco Frank has three variations.

Jim Lee, Thunderbolts, and Garth Ennis

>>5900310
that does looks badass.

>>5895656
>>5895673
>>5895696
huh, i was about to put mine up on ebay sometime soon. great paint too

>>5900419
If you want to sell it at a reasonable price to a marvel general bro rather than maxing your profit on ebay, let me know!

>>5900338
The peg is much too big

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Finally found Deadpool at Toys R Us just now.
The pegs were empty, so I asked a cashier when they get new shipments in since I'm looking for a particular Marvel Legends figure, and he said there were a couple at the front in Guest Services, so I went and there it was. Apparently some dude put it on hold yesterday and never went for it, so I lucked out.

>>5901487
I put it on hold. I put it on hold for you, Anon.

>>5901790
I love you, anon.

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>>5899061
Tried to do a black wash with the little indents, but it didn't work out. Needed to fill in the bullet holes though.

Anyone excited for the exclusive Captain Marvel Noir figure?

This is my first time subcribing to Marvel Unlimited so I'll be getting her. Not sure it's one I really wanted but I never got the Allfather one and the Rescue figure last year had bad articulation and no extra Potts' head.

>>5901839
Huh, I didn't even notice the bullet holes until you pointed them out. That's pretty cool.

>>5901487
is his eyes supposed to be off center like that? can't tell if paint mistake or DP being cartoony.

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>>5901860

>>5901865
I think he's doing his trademark eye squint

>>5901865
Yeah, like >>5901873 said, he's squinting.

>>5901839
Looks better than what I was doing. Like the silver in the bullet holes.

>>5900386
Heating it up makes it easier but is not required.

>>5901861
Some are bullet holes, some are rivets. I thought they'd look better with silver.

>>5899295
>fugly Y jointed hips
>fugly Bullseye body mold
YES PLEASE

>>5898697
You should get some wire hangers to use as stands, homie

>>5902341
idk they look kinda ghetto

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>>5901860
>>5901872
Ah, that's "Time Runs Out" Captain Marvel.

I never understood the in-story reason for the change in costume colors for her & other characters during that. I wasn't reading the Avengers' books around that time.

>>5901487
I'll be the one to say it: your backyard looks nice as fuck.

>>5901860
>>5901872
Easy pass. That figure are great use of the mold, but the grays are just too bland. Plus Marvel comics so boring right now. Best use of a MU subscription. Is to read through a ton of back issues on a monthly bill and then cancel it.

>>5902510
Thanks, anon. It's cozy for sure. Feel free to come over once the weather gets cold for beers and comics by the fire pit.

So I opened up Deadpool and I'm happy I finally got one, and even happier I didn't pay above retail.
While the figure itself is nice with no crazy quality control issues, the weapons are a total letdown.

>no paint on the pistols, laser rifle, shotgun, and bazooka
>warped, thin swords
>laser rifle and bazooka made of the most rubbery plastic I've ever seen
>also warped out of the package

Better rev up those hair dryers, bros.

>>5902772
>warped, thin swords
Protip, you probably don't want to actually put them in the sheaths. They don't match the curve of the sword, and they're also curved laterally so they'll warp the swords that way too.

>>5902776
Yeah, I noticed that when I first tried putting them in. The strange thing is that putting them in the scabbards for a bit straightened them out a bit since they were so bad, but I won't be keeping them in anymore. They were a mess when I took them out of the package.

>>5895671
Now let us see the swappable parts for the swappable parts throne

>>5895740
Do you have the new movie Spidey?

>>5898697
I'm in love with your Ben vs Goblin setup there

>>5902883
Nah. I considered picking it up, but while the movie suit is one of the best spider suits we've gotten in live action yet, it doesn't translate that well to the figure. I dislike the symbol, and the indented webbing pattern, and I started collecting when the pizza Spidey was announced so I just waited until that came out instead.
Except for the symbiotes, I don't really like having more than 1 figure of a character that's almost in an identical costume.

>>5902949
I think he means the Civil War Spidey figure.

Which is shit and not even accurate to the final design because Hasbro apparently starts designing their figures in the concept art stage despite not releasing them for months after the movie's out.

>>5902949
Oh wait, you're talking about the civil war Spidey.

No, I don't have that one either. It'd be cool to have, but I doubt I'm gonna get it since I have no interest in having the other two battle damaged characters. And I doubt I'm gonna find him for less than $30 Canadian.

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>>5902953
It's based on early costume for civil war

>>5900234
It's so depressing how so very close to perfect the 3.75 scale is right now. Just a tiny bit more articulation. If they were as articulated as before with the sculpting and paint apps they are doing now, they'd be worth the 12.99 MSRP IMO. Well, maybe, that's still pretty damn expensive.

>>5902953
>Hasbro apparently starts designing their figures in the concept art stage despite not releasing them for months after the movie's out.

Hasbro is pretty shitty, but come the fuck on. Stuff like that isn't even their fault. This is something that happens with pretty much ALL toy companies. They start designing shit months, if not a year or two in advance.

Think about it. If they were given designs for the movie look a year in advance, and did all the planning and prototypes and all that, and went into full production and started stockpiling finished product, and then oops. Halfway through the production run Disney/Marvel tweaks some of the design here, and some of the details there, so now you have a different look, but stockpiles of product that's done so its too late to change anything.

My guess is that it was likely Disney being a shit, because apparently there was a huge fiasco with Star Wars: TFA merchandise not being accurate to the final looks too.

>>5903023
Glad they changed it, that outfit looks like total garbage.

>>5903090
Well it doesn't help that all in all Spidey stuff was pretty last minute.

Does anyone else have problems getting figures to stand? I'm new to the hobby, but my Phoenix and Rogue keep toppling over. I googled but haven't seen much advice except to poster tack them to a surface.

>>5903168
If you really want to keep them secure, you could buy stands. Tamashii nations sells stands that have a jointed arm and claw grip to keep your figures upright, or in aerial poses. A few other companies make them too, but I think Tamashii nations is the best bet since you get three of them for like 17 dollars.

Went to walmart to see if Dr Strange wave was out... found nothing. When do they hit stores?

>>5903177
I got some of those myself. The claw thing doesn't hold any figure bigger than buckycap

>>5903182
My walmart is still two or three waves behind, so I'm going to say 2017 for them to hit the shelves. Amazon has their release date as October 1st, so that's probably a better answer.

Is there any Marvel Legends figure or any other possible figure that could act as a full unmasked Peter Parker head and fit on the figure? Not the Andrew Garfield head either.

>>5902953

>Hasbro apparently starts designing their figures in the concept art stage despite not releasing them for months after the movie's out.

That's common practice. It takes at least 8 to 9 months minimum to get a figure sculpted, tooled, produced, and released. Movies can be edited and CGI changed all the way up to a few weeks before a film is released. If Marvel Studios makes a change it's not Hasbro's fault.

Neca's Hellboy 2 Wink figure was released with a head that wasn't screen accurate. The design of the character's head was changed while the editing was being done. del Toro didn't like the original design once he saw it on film so it was changed. To Neca's credit, they offered a corrected head to anyone who sent it a POP. I believe all you had to pay was the shipping cost.

The Spidey 3 pack wasn't released when Civil War first hit due to a request by Disney. Even though Spider-Man was in the trailer, Disney wanted to keep his exposure to a minimum before the film was released. It's why a lot of the general merchandise released before the film was out also doesn't have S-M. My nephew bought a lunchbox and it has everyone from both teams except S-M. I know it doesn't make much sense but it's what Disney wanted.

>>5903396

Part of that is also because of the conditions of the agreement with Sony, too.

>>5902953
>Hasbro apparently starts designing their figures in the concept art stage despite not releasing them for months after the movie's out.

Most companies do this though, this has happened quite a lot.

Just look at the figuarts mk46 which is amazingly accurate to the concept art but not to what was showed in the movie. That was kinda a good thing though as I prefer it to the movie version.

It also happened to kylo ren's ship, the original concept didn't have the wing go down horizontal so the lego and the models had them straight up.

>>5903209
Then you're using them wrong.

>>5895797
is he doing the MVC spiderman pose?

>>5903168
Get obitsu stands

>>5903411

Good point.

Disney may have to give Sony a percentage of any revenue they make using the MCU Spidey.

Got my raft Spidey in today. Besides some unfortunate paint slop on the left butterfly joint, I'm happy with it.

The joints are nice and tight, as opposed to my pizza Spidey which has loose legs and knees.

I'll have to mod pizza Spidey's extra hands to fit raft Spidey tonight.

>>5903603
does the raft head fit on the pizza body? seems like the simplest solution.

>>5903609
It totally does, but my pizza Spidey has the shittiest joints. So I figured I'd make Raft Spidey my "go-to".

>>5903507
>Here's my attempt at the Marvel vs Capcom pose everyone likes to do

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>>5903603
Got the other web shooting hand to fit. Here's another damn MvC pose attempt.

Didn't need the stand to keep him from falling, but I think I'll display him this way for now.

How decent is the Death's Head figure? Might pick it up

Just got Punisher tonight. Would have been nice if he had D-Man or Deadpool's thigh holster a sidearm. The belt was a nice touch, though.

>>5904107
Nice find. You gonna slice his hand and give him a trigger finger?

>>5903689
Can you show me what you did to the hands? I'd like to do it too.

>>5904107
Really? I sort of don't get why the belts made like it is with the teeth extending up. It just makes it hard to actually use the waist swivel.

You're right about the holster though, I took the one off of nick fury and it fits perfectly and looks great. Deadpools would probably work too though since it matches his chest straps.

>>5896886
my only gripe with that Bernthal Frank is the coat. it looks lame that short. I mean I'm glad they didn't just reuse the fury trench coat for a 10th time but I've just never like those shorter half trench coats.

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>>5904118
Sure thing, pardon the shit picture. All I did was crudely slice at the pegs with a hobby knife until it fit.

>>5903310
Check out castingcave.ecrater.com

>>5904181
>>5903689
And to think some anons here thought it couldn't be done.

>>5896370
Cap looking over there wondering where the hell Peter went

>>5900297
I can't look at this and not think "Bio Armor Daredevil! With firing nightstrike baton action!"

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The new Wolverine is so good. He is a manlet like he should have been in the first place. Just wish his arms had the hair decals.

Amiami has the figuarts tony stark preorder back open for anyone who missed him.

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>>5904117
Already done. Need to boil/freeze to get the fingers to stay in a slightly better position.

>>5904138The teethbelt is just a nice visual thing. I can't remember when that started in the comics, but some artists have done it, and it gives it a look a little like he's got some clips or knife armor there.

Speaking of Fury, isn't it a pleasant surprise when you vacation in a small town and stop at Walmart to get supplies? This mood Mus be degrading or I got a figure that should have failed QC though. Anyone have a problem with Fury's shin not lining up with the rest of his leg? Before anyone asks, yes, it is the right leg and the right shin. They should match.
The grunt head is pretty nice. Might have to throw that on my Kanan Jarrus and see if it looks worth a reprint.

>>5904678
One let thing: as I was snapping Dirk Anger's head on, I realized that Hasbro already have most of the parts to make Boom Boom and Lightwave from NextWave:
Boom Boom: Jubilee body with new books from the shin down, new skirt piece, and new head
Lightwave: Slender woman body (Hellcat, Storm), Misty Knight head or new mold, MCU Scarlet Witch arms and coat

They'd probably get away with throwing The Captain on that shitty old Punisher/MCU Fury/Red Skull body with a new head. And maybe they could toss in a coat and spare head for Aaron.

>>5904264
Looks pretty good but I wish he had a better head sculpt. He needs an angry teeth gritting/shouting expression and longer black fins on his mask in my opinion.

>>5895671

That clothing in the back, that wouldn't happen to be one of Coyote/Nova Pop's hoodies, would it?

>>5904181
I'll have to try to find an extra spidey to do that. Do the reds match up?

So dorkside pretty much said that I'm not getting the black panther I preordered, which hurts double because I actually have all the other parts to giant man. Is there any chance in hell of finding one for retail nowadays? I hit a couple targets and walmarts today and shit was barren.

>>5904903
Yeah, I can't find a difference at all. However, a few reviewers mentioned Raft Spidey is a slightly darker red, but I can't see a difference at all.

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>mfw I got the Walgreens Punisher for 34 cents

I got the marvel legends spider girl (the one with hobgoblin pieces) and shes sorta bowlegged. and her right foot won't move.

how do I fix this? I heard about hot water or a hair dryer but how does that work?

>>5905193
Whats returned value? Was that like returned and put back on the shelf?

>>5905200
Use a hairdryer. The heat softens the plastic up.

>>5905294
I think that is if you return the item so you don't get normal retail returned after buying for discount.

>>5905193
Is this happening at most Walgreens?

>>5905193
fuck I just bought it from the web site but with my luck I would never find one in store.

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Recently picked this fella up

Aside from the loose about crunch, love him.

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>>5905918

Got purple effects coming in soon for him

>>5904941
Wait what actually did they say? They've always been good to me, but it's seems more and more sketchy stuff has been happening of late.

>>5904941
There were two at my K-Mart which surprised me. On a slight discount too which was nice.
Picked one up and got a Nuke along with him since he looked cool.

>>5904941
I've seen at least one in 4 different walmarts. They are getting these middle of the lane caps that have the giant man wave in them. check bbts too.

>>5904941
If you don't care about BP, I'm going to be putting the BAF part in the BST early next week.

>>5904891
It is indeed.
>>5904941
Did you contact them through customer support? They told me I wouldn't be getting the Spider-Gwen I had pre-ordered months ago, and when I told them how disappointed I was, they made sure I got it.

So are we gonna get a professor x in a wave at some point?

Toys R Us has a 20% off sale on Marvel Legends (as well as DC and Infinite figures)

Legends are $15.99 each.

I picked up Movie Strange and Iron Fist to get free shipping.

>>5898690
this is dope

>>5905943
>>5906337
I actually emailed them because I got a box of other stuff from them without bp.

>Order is marked Partially Shipped and Black Panther will ship when in-stock; we apologize for any confusion as the shipper should've indicated this on the packing slip. What we do know is they've not yet been cancelled but they are officially delayed and we would not be surprised if they were cancelled.

I'm assuming they were betting on those revision cases to fill preorders, but it sounds like hasbro either didn't actually make them, or at least shorted them. I guess I'm not too pissed with them considering it doesn't really seem to be their fault. I just bought one for 25 off ebay, whatever.

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>>5906615

>>5896229
>MCU movie version supervillain legends toy
>Ever

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>>5904941
FUCK, we got two in today at work and I passed because I can't cancel my stupid dorkside order.

>>5896441
This would actually make me more likely to buy it