Transformers General /tfg/ Reissue edition

Stale bread >>5862482

I like the new Galvatron way more than I thought I would. All he needs is some upgrades from Shapeways.

>>5865095

He's already up for PO on BBTS.

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Hasbrotoyshop is best girl

So tfdirect has loose wave 2 deluxes. Wonder if they're factory rejects or samples or what?

>>5865095
>yellow eyes
>for big hairy dick toy loving motherfuckers
>listen to classic 70's/80's rock and metal
>collect toys, but aren't consumed by it; have other interests and hobbies

>red eyes
>for edgy aspergos who demand cartoon accuracy
>rarely actually watch the cartoon and just like the sense of superiority that comes from importing
>Listen only to cringeworthy anime music and numale indie shit
>house is full of boxes and trash

>>5865106
I hope he's fun. I preordered mine from tfsource and they still dont have him in stock. Ive got the canon piece from shapeways just sitting on the desk

>>5865114
>>>/r/music
Take your dadrock back to where it belongs, redditor

>>5865111
Almost certainly rejects I believe.

That is almost how all the early reviewers have gotten ahold of them barring the Pinoy reviewer.

Heads up, Amazon seems to have TR Soundwave available (sort of, he's out of stock, but you can buy it now and they'll send it when available).

>>5865132
Oh yeah, and also Alpha Trion, and Astrotrain.

>>5865115
I've enjoyed him so far. Starship mode feels fanmode-tier and I thought I was gonna break something when I first untabbed the shoulders, but he's cool. I keep the mask tucked away, though.

How much is shipping for shapeways? Does it get much higher if you order multiple tiny pieces?

>>5865132
What about Wolfwire/Weirdwolf?

>>5865153
The deluxes don't seem to be available yet, unless you want to pay one of their vendors 30 dollars.

>>5865150
Shapeways is having a promotion now where all orders above $30 entitle you to free shipping

>>5865162
Oh cool. I don't think there's $30 worth of stuff I want, though.

Black Lio Convoy did nothing wrong

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oc donut steel

>>5865183
new comb beaner

transform titan discuise

only 1.99

>>5865183
A skeleton wearing Titan Master vehicles for armor?

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Is the AoE deluxe scorn any good?

>>5865202
Some say it's the best of the AOE dinobots.

>>5865205
That is not saying much.

>>5865202

Like most of the AOE Dino dudes, his possibility is limited but his colors are fantastic and his silhouette is awesome. He reminds me of some of the weirder beast-formers from Cybertron.

>>5865202
I DECLARE HIM TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO HO SCALE AND LIKE SO ARE ALL THE TITANRETURNS SHITS FUCKING YES

>>5865114
>yellow eyes
For poor people.

>red eyes
For the others.

Fixed

>>5865202
Really cool toy, if you like the look of him I'd buy. I think the Takara Scorn is about the same price as Hasbro at this point and the colors are a bit nicer.

>>5865217
He has no wrist and ankle but he has all the other standard points of articulation plus waist. So not too bad for a current deluxe.

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>>5865111

I'm tempted to order but living in Europe it tells me 12 days shipping. If that's work days I'm starting to wonder if the wave won't be out by then in Europe (or the UK at least) by then..

Anyone have release dates on the deluxes of wave 2?

Picture unrelated.

>>5865111
Wave 2 deluxes are shelfwarming here in manila.

Does anyone have an idea on the melting temperature for the plastic used on transformers?

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PMOP is a pretty naff base mode by himself, but combined with Sentinel (and 1-2 deluxes to connect to the 'bridges') it's pretty excellent.

Sorry for the iffy quality of the shot, new phone.

>>5865256
As in you want to melt them down? Over 490F for most plastics

>Brainstorm still not out

August is nearly over.

>>5865256
ABS' glass transition temperature is around 105 °C (221 °F).

>>5865249
Could I get a straight height comparison between these five? Or at least between Magnus, Rodimus, Optimus and Maximus?

>>5865264
The release date's in November, at least that's what I saw in Tformers.

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>>5865202
>>5865234
If you're interested in Scorn I'd suggest you buy a few or all of the other dinobots. They look great as an unit and don't really match the aesthetics of other TFs, not even movieverse ones. Fruity or all black up to you, though the hasbro fruity ones should be extremely cheap right now.

...Unless you have an aversion to rubbery parts and gorilla arms, if so you should just avoid them all.

>>5865266
Thanks.

>>5865264
my store only just got the complete wave 1

>>5865108
They have great shipping.

>>5865279
I haven't seen Walgreens stock Generations figures since Reveal the Shield (and that's because they were lumped in with Movie figures). The last thing I saw there were a few RID deluxes, and the one step changers.

>>5865276
Yeah I have a couple and can confirm. Strafe is pretty cool and Snarl is okay. Will probably pick up Slug if I find him cheap.

>>5865256
I can melt plastic on them with my dremel a little bit.

But I mean like the hard plastic gets soft and rubbery when heated up, not liquify it of course.

>>5865288
I think they'll just be selling straight cases of Brainstorm. They do a similar thing with Marvel legends

What are the names of all the non-standard headmasters? (Horrorcons and headmaster jrs.)

I only know
>nightbeat- quig(?)
>siren- muzzle(?)
>squeezeplay- lokos

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>>5865289
Medieval knights is a commonly used theme but I wonder if they were thinking about Darksouls when designing these.

>>5865150
I don't exactly remember but I think all together it was like $10 for the pieces. Seems a bit expensive but I don't like the canon placement at all

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I took a photo of PMOP in robot mode.

It's a pretty satisfying robot, all blocky and stuff. You just have to be careful when posing the legs: The pieces that go together to form the lower legs come untabbed fairly easily.

Not "fall apart if you breathe on it" easily though. You can still pick it up and handle it and set it down without them separating.

Are victorion's feet worth like 15 bucks if I didn't like the perfect effect ones? I've still got two other combiners using the stock feet that I want to do something about.

>>5865111
>>5865120
I just got highbrow in the mail from an ebay seller in indiana, so even if they are rejects, they're probably going to hit retail soon enough. Honestly if the price is right though, I don't think it really matters.

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>>5865421
The truck mode locks together really solidly. I like this solidity.

>>5865421
>satisfying
>gap in the feet
>hollow parts everywhere
>not a powermaster
>cab doesn't transform into a separate robot

This entire photo is everything wrong with Titans Returns.

Delete this.

>>5865424
The mold details include ladders and tiny little doors. I guess that's how big the humans are supposed to be.

If that's the scale, then the TMs are more like the size of regular Transformers and their robot bodies are, well, titanic.

>>5865424
I like that you can fold the feet down and have a ramp leading into his trailer that Legends figures can ride up/down

>>5865429
>stop enjoying things I can't enjoy!

>>5865340
Eh, I payed like 30-something for Perfect Effect's Constructicon kit. I think I can stomach it.

>>5865423
If you want to go for feet, wait for the Computron one's. They look like the cover more surface area, even if they aren't as chunky.

>>5865320
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Headmaster_(technology)#Generation_1

>>5865429
hasbro cheap grey plastic galore

>>5865433
>implying all opinions are equal

Get fucked.

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>>5865423
Oh, also highbrow is pretty great. The scourge mold was probably my favorite from the first wave, and this is a pretty nice reuse of the same transformation scheme but with actually appealing colors now. It even does the hot spot>onslaught trick of flipping the whole thing around. The headmaster socket still sucks though.

>>5865421
>I took a photo of PMOP in robot mode.
We know, you've posted it like 4 threads in a row.

So I've been looking at Doublecross and I think he's actually based on Mindwipe, but with new limbs.
The clear plastic on a torso, plus the general mobility of his arms and legs (unusual for a deluxe) suggests to me that they said "hey, let's remold this torso and stick new arms and legs. Transformation is like 90% there"
It does some pretty interesting things, and considering hardhead is likely to be extremely retooled, and how highbrow was a nearly unrecognizable retool of scourge (and how if we didn't have Brainstorm, Triggerhappy would be an unrecognizable retool of blurr) I think we're going to see a perceptor retool of hardhead that goes extreme.

I'm not even sure they count as retools so much as parts-swapping.

>>5865423
The QCs of this line has been questionable enough that many of the retail copies should've been rejects.

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>>5865106
Shapeways is awful unless you order in Ultra Frosted Detail, but then you'll need to paint.

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>>5865498
I reckon it could be used as the basis for a fangry.

>>5865525
That still looks bad.

>>5865489
Way too many problems. Hasui really didn't think the rotor problems through, which is surprising. And Scourge has the benefit of having the bits to fill in the gaps at the legs.

>>5865498
>So I've been looking at Doublecross and I think he's actually based on Mindwipe, but with new limb

No.

See >>5865527

The feet and lower section become the the feet in robot mode In Mindwipe the feet become the arms.

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>>5865528
How so? He's still tweaking it to fit and slimming it down, so there's plenty of room for improvement. Not as bad as the G1 helmet, or those retards using Galvatronus' head.

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does anyone else think that Arcee would work well from a retooled Blurr? Give her a different shield and new forearms and I think she would come out quite well. Would also allow for a Daniel Titan Master who could then ride in Wheelie.

>>5865547
We already have an Arcee. A GOOD one.

>>5865536
flip him upside down

>>5865249
Hey I have that Optimus! Is it special? Rare? Or just ordinary?

>>5865543
He just hates the gimmick, ignore him.

>>5865554
It's a fan favorite
it's not exactly rare, but it is worth decent money if it's in good shape.

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Sentinel Turret kinda works

>>5865547
I can definitely see where you're going with this, but ultimately I don't think it'll work.
the car mode would require a rather shortened front end, which would make for a bit of an odd shaped shield, and the thrusters on the legs would look a bit odd, since she should have bigger thighs as a female than calves.
Then there's the problem of what to do about the chest.

I think the hot rod mold will lend itself better, as his spoiler can be removed and the back fenders be connected to create the arcee backpack style.

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>>5865570
Even the cavity kinda works with the Titan master

>>5865559
Ok, that's good to know. I think it's pretty cool as well. The one I have is in good shape but it's legs are floppy.

>>5865543
>>5865556
No, I meant the print looks grainy as shit even in frosted ultra detail.

>>5865553
And there you have Mindwipe's wing-legs being different from how the legs forms in Doublecross (from the lower body) as well as the whole bat head being a backpack in Mindwipe. The same goes for the leg-arms on mindwipe and the two head arms in Doublebcross. Some similarity in concept, but none at all in engineering.

Other than the cockpit in the chest the similarities are just not there.

>>5865586
that's why you surface it.
You know, sand it down and paint it
he mentioned that.
Shapeways are not finished products.
Smooth-on even makes a chemical now to help smooth out the roughness of a 3d print.

>>5865587
you clearly misunderstood my post.

>>5865590
smooth on's product for "smoothing" 3d prints is basically the same as 5 minute epoxy glue, it fills in gaps and layer lines, kinda, and doesn't work on the grainy texture of fud

>>5865489
They're clearly different molds. I don't understand.

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>>5865574
I say make her pink chromedome and call it a day.

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>>5865600
>turn a gay robot into a tranny robot

Hasn't Chromedome suffered enough?

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>>5865599
We've entered a new era.

>>5865603
So they only share thighs and a few skeleton pieces? Whew, and here I thought it might've actually been a remold.

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Bought Rewind at TRU today, also met another fan there too.

>>5865600
>>5865602
G1 toy reference.

>>5865605
It's beyond a remold, it's a reman.

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>>5865600
I'ma real gurl, don't hit on me silly bois.

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>>5865615
Time to wack it.

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>>5865613
You don't say!!

>>5865543
>big head
>itty bitty face
Doomed figure is doomed.

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>>5865622

More like downy figure is downy.

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>>5865628
Maybe if the face looked like pic related. But then again, having a figure look like TJ Miller would be awful.

>>5865605
Maybe you don't get what a remold is vs a repaint or a retool
A remold means that the same functional piece is taken and sculpted differently.

In this case, all the joints are the same, plus thighs, and then while the look of the arms have changed, they're functionally still the same (even with hollows in the same place, same elbow joints too)
The chest even fits in the same overall shape.
The amount of plastic used is nearly identical, and you can literally swap every part and they'd still work.
The only piece that's truly a retool instead of a remold is the legs, where on scourge they have to fold out, but highbrow doesn't.

>>5865597
That's why you sand it.

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>>5865497
At least anon's posting pics ON AN IMAGE BOARD HURRRRDROGJIDJGLKDJS"FJSJFDL
fuck you

>>5865658
You haven't worked with a lot of fud have you?

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>>5865661
Yes and it was vewy howible.

>>5865679
you.. i like you

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>>5865660
>Le shrek gif xd
Kill yourself

>At least anon's posting pics ON AN IMAGE BOARD
That's not the problem, it's a shit picture of a shit toy.

>>5865711
>posting a shittier picture of good toys while you're criticizing him for posting a shitty picture of shit toys
???

>>5865713
Beast Wars II is "I want to fuck that squid" the show

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Got Hardhead today. Also saw Skullsmaahee, but I have Takara's on the way. That said, now I regret not getting it as a body for Croc Megatron.

Here he is with the closest thing I have to another headmaster right now, Sentinel's Dancouga

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>>5865781
HEAD ON!

>>5865781
>>5865789
>takara's skullsmasher
J U S T

>>5865789
i want to fuck that dancouga

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>>5865789
>>5865789
Body swapping! Takara's Hardhead might've been more fitting, but oh well. I prefer the faceplate

>>5865792
I actually do kinda regret it. Looking at Skullsmasher in person today I thought the head looked really cool. But two crocs will be fine.

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>>5865796
Sexy, isn't it? Scary as fuck to handle, though. I forgot how low maintenance retail TFs are in comparison, it's relaxing.


Man this head would be great for a TR seeker or something.

>>5865800
Is Dancouga as flimsy as people say it is?

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>>5865809
No, he's sturdy and tight as hell; the flimsy accusations comes from sudden breakages people have reported than anything beforehand. Because of that my heart skips a beat anytime I move his arms. If it breaks, it'll do so without warning.

Hardhead overall is a bit underwhelming, but I love actually fiddling with it. Some sort of torso/waist articulation and ankles would have gone a long way. Still, this is a good era for TFs, budget cuts aside.

>>5865543
>How so?

The helmet looks too bulky and it makes the face look tiny.

The only way to fix Galvatron is by replacing the entire plate the head is on and making a head that goes into the chest without partsforming.

>>5865792
What? Takara's Skullcruncher looks far better than Hasbro's greebly accurate to nothing faced one.

>>5865844
Oh, the shitty genericon face looks better now? top lel


And what does Hasbro's Skullcruncher have to be accurate to? This isn't G1

>>5865847
Sure looks better than the mess that Hasbro made.

>And what does Hasbro's Skullcruncher have to be accurate to? This isn't G1

The generations line homages the original g1 toys dumb-dumb. And the Hasbro version homages the g1 face sculpt.

>>5865861
I'd rather the more unusual and angular face of Hasbro's than the shitty generic thug of Takara's.

According to who? Your assumptions? Or...?

And you clearly said "homages". It doesn't have to be exactly on point with every single little thing. It only needs to be similar to be a homage

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>this thread

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>>5865844
You have to be being difficult to think Hasbro's looks nothing like he original. You can totally tell what's analogous to the original toy head. There's some differences in proportions, but its recognizable. Biggest change is making the bottom sides of the helmet bigger and more angular, but that seems like it was done to fit in with the general pointiness of the design and maybe differentiate it from the similar look on Hardhead's

Unpainted visor bridge is still ugly, though.

>>5865863
Those faces are based on G1. Even those faces you praise are based on a G1 headsculpt.

> generic thug of Takara's.

Because he was a thug. If you were to describe him and Weirdwolf it would be the Bebop and Rocksteady of Headmasters.

No fighting, no biting, /tfg/!

>>5865889
Only the strongest should have the ability to lead!

>>5865889
What if I wanna be bitten

>>5865789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_SwD7RveNE

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>>5865884
Seriously, if you're pitching a fit about the heads not matching 1:1, why are you even collecting Classics? We get a handful of faithful updates and the rest are stylized modernizations. Even if you went with superior takara for all those past figures, they didn't go as far to resculpt all those heads back then. The takara heads may look show accurate, but I don't really need that in Classics. For that, I'll spring for 3P MP or wait for MP to get to Headmasters(in 15 years)

>>5865819
>If it breaks, it'll do so without warning.
Yikes. Thanks, I think I'll save $300 on this one.

>>5865897
This head is like funpub tier. Shame. I loved Sunstreaker.

>>5865902
Yeah, it's a beautiful toy, better than even SoC Gaogaigar or Gunbuster, my other two favorite Transforming/combining figures. But while it hasn't given me any trouble so far, that fact hanging over my head makes me unable to really recommend it to anyone.

>>5865884
>You can totally tell what's analogous to the original toy head

Except it's not. The original head doesn't have an oversized ugly nose. The original head doesn't have an ugly as fuck mouth. The original head doesn't have greebleshit all over its helmet. Paint the Takara visor black and it's far more accurate than the Hasbro one ever will be.

>>5865897
REEDUN isn't an excuse for things to look worse. I'm getting tired of this argument.

>>5865959

Things will look how they look. You've no influence on it at all anyway besides your wallet. Buy what you like, and be happy with it.

>>5865959
>The original head doesn't have an oversized ugly nose.

That seems like a bad deco decision. Not going to defend that, it looks bad, but that's an issue with the deco, not the sculpt, so it's salvageable.

>The original head doesn't have an ugly as fuck mouth.

The Hasbro's are a bit too defined, but it's within reason. The original has pronounced lips, too. It was probably meant to look more Superrobot/Sentai-ish than Hasbro's, but tis still within reason

>The original head doesn't have greebleshit all over its helmet.

It totally does, though. the new one has some more intricate details, but it's not an 80's toy so of course it's not as limited to what can be put o it.

>Paint the Takara visor black and it's far more accurate than the Hasbro one ever will be.

Takara's gets rid of the cool angular shades, and while you sperg about greebles, losing all the greebles just makes it less accurate. It would work, but it'd end up looking simpler, which is a bit weird for a new toy compared to an old one.

>>5865886
So that means every Optimus Prime ever is G1 Prime since the headsculpt is always based off that original?

So? The focus is on the word "generic".

>>5865959
>REEDUN isn't an excuse for things to look worse. I'm getting tired of this argument.

But that's what Generations is is. You have MP if you want the ultra faithful one. Its like complaining about the Alternators stuff taking liberty with designs; well, they weren't meant to be based on something 100%.

The usual argument is "well, MOTU Classics/ GI Joe Classics/DCUClassics are all based on the original designs"; well, the difference is this line is still alive and still can be bought at retail. And its barely officially "classics"; that name was only used in concept stages,and in smaller aspects like bylines of Universe 2.0, and some fanclub/Botcon stuff.

>>5865993
I for one agree with you, I love most of it, updated designs are fun. Sure some of the early years are rough but right now we're good. Don't like Reedun? Don't buy it. Shut up, don't buy it.

>>5865586
Frosted ultra isn't nearly near the level of grainyness as the other materials. It's not even grainy, it's just the printlines across the pieces. I've hated Shapeways for years since the other materials were trash and felt satisfied with the frosted ultra detail. I wouldn't use it for faces and heads, though.

>>5865984
Some have exposed mouths, wings off the side, or no nose.

Opinions please.

Cybertron defense red alert as Fort max.

Does he work well enough for the idea? Or is he just too "red alert"y?

>>5866021
Well, they're still based off the same model aren't they?

>>5866032
Overall the average out to "generic robot face"

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>>5866022
Need a new head at least, but he can work, remember "Stronghold"? the Fortress analog using universe Onslaught and the head robots add on.

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>>5865711

>>5865114
Surprisingly accurate. Don't listen to these spergs. Toy version master race

>>5865967
>>5866005
>pls shut up and stop bashing toys I like ;_;
>only positivity is allowed plsssss stop complaining ;_;
>>>/tfw2005/

>>5865978
>It totally does, though

No. The helmet is cleanly designed. Hasbro's is just "LOL MAKE EVERYTHING DIAGONAL AND ADD MORE LINES"

It looks ugly. Not interesting.

>>5865993
>You have MP if you want the ultra faithful one
I don't want an ultra faithful one. I want one that looks good. I already said REEDUN isn't an excuse for things to look bad. There are plenty of Generations toys that are updated but also don't have shit face sculpts.

>>5866053
>that bruticus
J U S T

I know nobody gives a shit about Combiner Wars anymore but, does this sound like a good option for a Menasor without shitty or repeated limbs?
>Menasor
>Dragstrip
>Dead End
>Offroad
>Prowl repainted as Barricade

>>5865897
That looks like one of those fucking dogs that bite down on bees.

>>5865889
What about hard petting?

>>5866071

I'm not telling you to stop complaining. I'm just telling you your complaining is worthless. Nothing will change. You either like something or you don't.

>>5866071
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>BECAUSE MY OPINIONS ARE OBJECTIVE

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>>5866071
So what are you going to do about it? Complain on the internet?

>>5866075
>Barricade

a) Not crazy enough.

b) He is still a repaint/repeating limb.

>>5866077
How hard

>>5865910
This was like early CHUG. They hadn't gotten it right yet. Nowadays this would be inexcusable.

I'm kind of digging that new movie Barricade. He looks pretty cool (face looks a bit weird, but everything else is good). I hope his toy ends up being decent.

>>5866081
>STOP DISLIKING WHAT I LIKE
>BECAUSE MY OPINIONS ARE OBJECTIVE

it goes both ways faggot.

>>5866083
Yes? It's not any more or less pointless than people praising the toy numbnuts.

>>5866085
Huh. There really are only 3 car molds to be counted in CW.
Wasn't Greejeeber a Hound lookalike repainted from Swindle?

>>5866091
Take it to seibertron or at least talk about something you do like nerd.

>>5866091
When did I imply either though?

>>5866093
There is also Breakdown. That makes four together with Offroad/Deadend/Dragstrip.

>>5866108
The Breakdown mold is shit.
I don't want one stinking up my collection again as long as I can help it.

>>5866036
Well, unless i find a new head, he will be "Maximus" in my collection until i i find a better option.

>>5866110
You take issue with the Breakdown mold but not Motormaster?
????????

>>5866123
If it's the second run then there's no issues with it. Also you don't need so many ? in your post. You're not a 14 year old girl.

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Show me your moves, /toy/

>>5866123
At least there are addons to fix it somewhat, Breakdown is just unsalvageable and I haven't seen any attempt to fix that.
I don't even feel that inclined to get Menasor desu. An addon kit to turn Hot Spot/Onslaught into Motormaster would be a better idea than trying to fix Breakdown.

>>5866110
Then sub in UW War Breakdown as CHUG Breakdown and CHUG Brakeneck as Wildrider.

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>>5866022
Eh, no. Not really. Before Warden, I painted up a Universe Onslaught and planned to get one of those Fort Max add on heads. It looks great, but now I actually have a Warden and this body is fully useless to me. If you're interested in buying, I could pass it on to you and all you'd need is the Headmaster Fort Max add on for this mold. This was almost done.

>>5866131
But Brakeneck is just a repaint of Dead End.
Barricade was more different than that.

>>5866129
cringe

>>5866134
It works if you don't actually own that mold as Dead End. Otherwise, you could use G2 Dead End with Beast Hunters Knockout's head.

>>5866102
No. Fuck off back to tfw2005.

>>5866103
>>5865847

>>5866144
Is that all you can manage?

"Go back to (place I don't like) because I don't like you!"

>>5866127
>Combined shoulders and and hip is still locked by small friction tabs.
>Waist swivel is loose and prone to swinging about
>Scrunched-up, no mid-section proportions
>Shoulders hang too far back making combined mode back heavy
>Blackjack still doesn't fit in his hollow chest well
I guess it's personal taste but I find it incredibly weird that you'd avoid Breakdown just because 1/3 modes is crappy, which is the same case as Motormaster.

>You're not a 14 year old girl.
There's a 14 year old girl inside of everyone posting on /toy/ desu.

>>5866138
But then I'd be stuck with a red Dead End and a gray Dead End.

>>5866147
>go back to "insert other place"

Weakest type of troll. You could sub in literally any other site for the same effect.

>>5866150
I dunno man, alt mode is hard to fuck up. So is a chunk of car as a arm. The robot mode being huge shit is a giant knock against it as a result.

>>5866150
>implying I'm not the one inside her.

>>5866150
Motormaster only has a weird torso mode. Everything else is fine.

Got Shockwave and Viper for around $7 each in Canada. Should I open them or just sell them? Not trying to scalp, but wondering if I'll enjoy these two popular figures. I own Cosmos and Unicron, and idk where everything else is.

>>5866153
What?

The idea is using G2 Dead End, which is mostly red. Combine with using a BH Brakedown head. You have a mostly accurate Breakdown right there. Personally, I'd be painting a few details from there. I think my original plan did require use of a regular Dead End for parts on this but I'm drunk and can't remember. Even some the biggest obstacle is getting a G2 Menasor set and selling off the other guys for parts. At least Dragstrip can be repurposed into Decepticharge.

>>5866155
That's my point though. Your insult is weak as shit and you aren't embarrassing anyone other than yourself

>>5866170
I think you're confusing me with the guy that made that insult in the first place. I was agreeing with you, mong.

>>5866129
>>5866168
Rewind, Shockwave, and Viper/Powerglide, are they good?
Please respond

>>5866174
They are small simple figures, what you see is what you get so judge for yourself.

>>5866169
Yeah. But I don't really care about having the exact accurate g1 team in any shape or form to have a full Stunticon team to form Menasor if it means I have to repeat a single mold.

>>5866180
But is it good or bad
Prominent QC problems? Swooshability? Ethical value?

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Find a flaw.

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So I ordered some KO Legends Powerglide that's scaled up to basically Classics Bumblebee scale. I'd been looking for this since my friend showed me a picture and thought it was perfect for my Classics Bumblebee/Cliffjumper and iGear Minibots Brawn/Outback, Beachcomber and Gears.

It fits with MP scale too I guess, since MP Bumblebee is the same size as Classics Bumblebee, so that works for me.

>>5866182
Okay, so what's your problem then with your post here?

>>5866153

>>5866173

Oh wow fuck me, I'm retarded. Sorry

>>5866197
It's okay, retard.


:)

:)

>>5866192
What do you mean?
G2 Dead End and normal Wildrider means having two of the same mold. Prowl is at least a retool.

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The Dead End mold has a base mode

>>5866201
I mean in the sense of making it yourself.

>>5866187
Powerglide has some difficulty tabbing properly in plane mode

Shockwave is known to have a rougher, lower quality batch meant for mainland China.

Rewind and other TR cassettes have pre-applied foil-stickers, not all are well-applied.

Toys in CW and TR are made in Vietnam. Your retired veteran Grandpa may regard you as a traitorous socialist bastard if you support the toys. When asked why he still holds so much angst, he'll finally reveal that your Grandmother was actually a Vietnamese prostitute he fell in love with. He struggled to bring her over to the states but due to the political turmoil, he encountered much difficulty. Eventually, she died while giving birth to your dad. Such is the days of our lives.

>>5866110
Enjoy your Hasbro Computron then .

>>5866188
I forgot that thing even existed. It wasn't terrible for a happy meal toy tbqh.

>>5866214
How does this confirm him enjoying Hasbro Computron? My collection is completing avoiding this awful mold so I'm wondering what lead you to this conclusion.

>>5865222

Be a snot about it, why don't you.

>>5866211
>lower quality

Man idk what's more sad, the expectedly lower quality or your narrated tragedy.

I'll report after opening them, I guess.

>>5866222
Well, I don't know about the others but the Powerglide KO has a known loose tabbing issue with the wings for robot mode.

I'm not surprised.

>Seibertron lists a SDCC Fortress Maximus at 199 (Hasbrotoyshop still has them in stock at 179)
>For the hell of it, I go check the shipping costs
>Over a hundred dollars to ship

How?

>>5866214
I will.
After getting Takara Computron, replacing Shitspeed with a repainted Streetwise wearing Lightspeed's head, and locking the remains in a display made especifically for shaming the mold.

>>5866235
damn nigga you got a real hate boner for that mold

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>>5866233
It's a big package.

>>5865897
>or wait 15 years

That's why I want these toys done right the first time. These guys aren't the A listers like Prime or Bumblebee, or even the '84 B-listers like Hound or Sideswipe. They're the fucking Headmasters, the toys from long after the toyline was losing steam in America. They should get their updated toy done RIGHT the first time since they might not ever GET a second time.

Do you honestly think we'll see them ever update SCOOP in the near future? or Beast Machines Tankor?

>>5866174

They're all pretty good, yeah. Most Legends figures are.

>>5866242
Man, I wish they could remake Tankor at 2010 Voyager size.
They dropped the ball on that one with a passion. Just upscaling the old basic would've been better for a generations toy of him.

>>5866202
No picture to show this?

>>5866242

Is there something wrong with the Scoop toy anon?

>>5866251
No, but it was around the time of Scoop and Whirl when you started hearing the whining about "G1 with knees" because it wasn't some flavor of the week redesign nobody cared about.

>>5866251
I used to think it was shitty hollow, thin and light mold but nowadays it just seems like an early preview of RiD15 toys.

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Looks like Galvatron had a better designed head before HasTak went cheapskate on us.

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>>5865424

>that tiny little door with a table next to it

>>5865095
I already bought it back during the intial TRU stock

I need to stop being lazy and just get around to painting that visor though. The yellow just doesn't look as good as red. Red pops, while the yellow just blends into the face.

>>5866226
>>5866246
Shockwave's leg ball joints are weak compared to the ratchets(?) for his transformation, but I just have to angle them carefully and it's fine.

Viper's arm was a bit hard to tab into his wing but no issues otherwise.

Two great legends figures added to my collection of (just one) great legends figures. Thanks guys!

>>5866286

Mine were fine on Shockwave. Future'em I guess?

>>5866266
Don't worry hasbro HK will release that in a platinum set 10 years later.

>>5865202

Yes. He is.

>>5866267

>Forty-foot-tall cab

I like it.

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>tfw got hasbro mp soundwave for $169.95aud from pc

Now how to offload the year of the goat version somehow without too big a loss, someone would want it...someone always does

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So I got the alpha trion, I was hoping to see astrotrain in hand but the fact the tf section was swarming with kids meant I had to rush to grab this guy, there was a man and his kid there and I saw 2 voyager boxes, someone shoved the last alpha trion all the way behind a stack of falling peg stuff so I just went in and yanked it out while the kid was distracted by the 6 armada megatrons.

Anyway the point of this post was to demonstrate the lion mode of alpha trion's lion mode, its shit, the forarms can swivel but its kinda basic so a standing lion is the best you'll get while the legs are move a great deal as demonstrated.

I also hate the head spring gimmick, I fear that'll break after sometime, my galvatron's can't pop up on its own anymore and his may require manual force one day

Don't mind sideswipe, though I gotta say he was move involved than alpha trion, took 2 minutes blind to work out alpha trion's modes but he took another 20 blind (never was able to grasp box instructions either), quite pleased.

>>5866339
What's the cruiser (or the only good alt mode on this figure) like?

>>5866330
>year of the goat version
I would need like a week to decide ever getting it for more than 20 bucks

Honestly can't see the appeal of the orange/transparent plastic, let alone cracking concerns

>>5866190
That oversized Powerglide confused the fuck out of me at first.

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>>5866339
>>5866341
Its kinda meh, granted it does the job but has less obvious play options apart from the titan master pegs.

That said the underside clearly spells out that this mold WILL BE a better fit for vector prime, the lion mode kept throwing me off until I had him in hand, what they do with the lion mode I can't tell, but this, the proportions, I say its gonna be a good fit for vector prime

>>5866339
Where did you find it?

>>5866339
I think you just showed us the plane mode of the Tidalwave/Broadside retool.

>>5866349
So would you recommend it? I'n likely getting it just for the novelty of it being a new A3 figure

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>>5866266
Galvatron goes Tigatron.

>>5866297
With Sentinel Prime's color scheme.

>>5866339
>>5866349
That's just fucking vile.
Sorry for the loss, anon.

>>5866349
>new vector prime
YEAH
DO IT YOU BASTARDS

>>5866349
nah, mark my words
They're going to remove the beast legs and replace the head halves with wings and make a new broadside.

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>>5866349
Sorry for the delay, dinner was getting cold
>>5866352
I'm in Australia, tru highpoint.

Been stalking the OCTA forums and someone mentioned it was the last one, they didn't mention the rid2015 repaints though, looked like they restocked on the older ones.

>>5866354
Possible, I hope that's not the case or else this mold is getting milked hard.

>>5866357
If possible get it for the novelty on a sale, but if you can't get your eyes off it might as well get it.

I couldn't resist and look where I am, I was just gonna get the ex gokin figure and call it a day and this just screamed at me, that and its cheaper.

>>5866368
Not as bad as hasbro's galvatron, seriously needed paint on that face, that and looking at this thread the intended head (which was shown in the cg images) would of worked better.

>>5866373
Calm down anon, they'll deliver...

When takara announces it I'm getting that one.

>>5866380
...aww shit I see that working

>>5866387
>Australia

Are you "Kathy's Klutter?"

>>5866266
I'm asumming they did it to reduce the amount of plastic on the figure. Why didn't they just drill 5mm ports onto the side of his arms, reducing the plastic while making fucking everyone happy?

>>5866394
I, for one, am glad Hasbro was able to save that nickel in production costs.

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>>5866393
Nah mate, that said where I live there are plenty of girls/land whales like her around here.

Nearly stepped on one in a nearby pop culture store actually browsing pop figures, I never jumped at the sight of a lump of mass before sitting on the ground, thought it was a store display

Jokes aside (though that did happen) something seems off from her, either she's reading a script or she has to stop and think constantly (I suspect the former, and her reading ability is implied to be slow which is a worry if that is the case).

I think people only watch because she's an aussie collector/grill in general, I hate to say this but optibotimus's 20min views on a deluxe end up coming across better than her stuff, and that isn't good.

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>>5866266
That's the mask from the cgi render.

One could argue it doesn't look g1 enough so cost cutting could be just half the reason, still for its design IT IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT

It even matches idw galvatron's head, jeez

>>5865497
I don't remember seeing it

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>>5866396
>Not liking glorious kleavage

RAAWWRRRR

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>>5866401
>liking fat girl cleavage

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So how does /toy/ feel about these frankenstiens?

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>>5866408

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>>5866409

>>5866409
Post pics of UW with the PE hands and feet if you have it

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>>5866413
They were from the tfnd facebook page, was surprised the chest addon for hasbro computron isn't being used.

So here, have a edgimus prime with the addons

>>5866266
Damn It!

>>5866408
>Delta Magnus
Just give it to me already!

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>>5866425
it hurts to wait

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>>5866428
...or I read that the wrong way around.

Alpha trion and Sovereign confirmed for OP and should be banned from the great war

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>>5866429
Shitting what

How in the bloody fuck is Alpha Trion AND his titanmaster that ridiculously overpowered? Fuck a duck, that's insane

>>5866429
I guess they're treating this AT as the Origina Thirteen form more than the decrepit old man style.

>>5866427
One week, anon, one week.

>>5866429
Reminder that this basically means that Sovreign could theoretically completely annihilate Fortress Maximus without batting an eye

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>>5866446
ITS HAPPENING

>>5865600


They can call it Heavy Assault Armor Arcee

Make it some store exclusive

>>5865959
>REEDUN isn't an excuse for things to look worse. I'm getting tired of this argument.
If there's one thing the toy industry and fans are good at, it's making and accepting excuses.

>>5865615

I'd probably still buy it. Just for the lulz.

>>5865255
It's not shelfwarming if they just came out. Also it's not even out across the country yet. UPTC still has restocks of the two CW 84 waves.

>>5866451
Boy, I sure love all the paint apps on those little dudes.

>>5866478
Some are better than others, legends nightbeat and goshooter come out better than their international counterparts.

And more than just the face, while the legends titanmasters of the headmaster crew come out the same as hasbro (I think they're anime accurate though with their little bodies, I faintly remember how bland they looked)

But really, any licks of paint counts as lavish, they almost don't need it and not for playability/paint rubs sake, but because they're tiny as it is

>>5866403
>)

More woman than you're likely ever to get

>>5866431

He's one of the Primus' original 13 disciples.

>>5866484
>More woman than you're likely ever to get

There is such a thing as too MUCH woman you know, if you know what I mean

Brit fag here

I hate to rag on our own convention but TFnation is this weekend, I have been here over a day and it's one of the most poorly run conventions I have been too.

Many of the dealers still don't have tables due to poor "dealer map planning" according to some trans looking dude/gal, the dealer room itself is small and the panels are boring looking.

At least the guest list is not bad.

Might just go to SDCC next year instead

>>5866494
This is the first TFNation, isn't it? Do any of the staff have credentials from AA or other cons? It might just be a case of inexperience. Hopefully they'd turn it around next year.

>>5866188
too hard to find

>>5866401
>this
>cleavage
A pathetic attempt to look hot from a chubby with no boobs. Her and that asian one who used to take pics of her airbrushing with an unplugged airbrush and prostitue makeup were truly a great exemple of how great the TF fandom is.

>>5866475
Check TRU at glorietta and TK at SM Megamall. The only toys not on the pegs are blurr and scourge.
The other decepticon headmasters are left untouched.

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>>5866492

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Let the speculation commence.

Truthfully, hasbro astrotrain LOOKS great, that black edge he has helps him pop, sadly though since his shuttle mode ain't quite working with the white I went takara version, problem is no one knows what it looks like exactly.

So, I wish to request some speculation on his colors, granted I don't expect the same black edges on tak's version like hasbro has (if they did it would help immensely), but what else could they use?

>colored cockpit window:yellow
>train wheels:silver
>train cow catcher:silver
>shuttle front feet:purple at the tips to replicate show shuttle front
>turrets:gun metal/silver/purple
>wings:either purple border on grey or all purple depending on which animation error was most consistent

Has anyone digibashed astrotrain yet other than just making him all grey?

Because these accents would help him pop even if he ends up being a grey slab like the tiny pic related (only pic I could find with all of him in the shot, resolution is unchanged so I used some HD shit to fill in)

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>>5866538
Also I said "looks" great because of all this talk of qc issues, I am worried about how takara's will go but time shall tell.

I've been holding myself back on getting sentinel because the molds are just about the same and now I got bat convoy's head to use in his abscence, but I hope to the high heaven's astrotrain doesn't dissapoint (namely because I pre-ordered the takara one in advance...yes I'm an idiot but it was my intention from the start of the first leaks)

>>5866538
>Americans are start getting their wave 2.
>I am still waiting for wave 2 even though historically where I am get newest figure earlier than the US

AHHHH
What is going on?

>>5866555
?

Dunno where baltmatrix got his but I'm only aware Australia/asia have wave 2 voyagers and leaders.

I just want apeface and that's it, the sadpart is in Australia most stores apart from tru and kmart only had a sputter of wave 1 next thing BAM wave 2 soundwave in retail before wave1 blaster, and wave 2 soundwave was only in limited quanities in a shitty toy chain store in one state while blaster popped up later in tru.

With galvatron and sentinel exclusive to kmart while wave 2 voyagers appearing in both tru and kmart, currently headmasters and deluxes tru only/some toy world stores.

I'm confused as to what's going on in Australia since we got fort max first as well

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Now it makes sense why after burner is the color he is.

They must play darts on which animation error to use or their colors

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>SUPAAH
>FIYABAHDO
>ROKETTO
>CONVOYYYYY

>>5866601
Cool. Is it stable?

>>5866602
More than you might expect. Sentinel's yellow 5MM ports on his legs are plugged into the shoulder guns on PMOP

>>5866601
That's it I'm stuffing takara astrotrain on top of super ginrai.

But can it pose?

>>5866597
That's the trouble with G1 cartoon accuracy. You have to pick which part of the cartoon to use.

On a related note, is the green on the Hasbro one coming from anything? I can't see anything green on any version of him. For that matter, I don't see a blue window on him anywhere either. I imagine it's a case that the same sprue is used for the eyes and windows, so they went with blue on Takara for that. Either way, I would have been fine with a clear or white window and just painting the eyes.

>>5866559
>I'm confused as to what's going on in Australia since we got fort max first as well

Probably because you are closer to where the actual factories are located which is probably somewhere in Southeast Asia so the shipping time from there to your ports and then to distribution and then to stories is less. The pattern is pretty consistent here since the first sightings of Wave 2 Voy appeared in Singapore and Malayasia followed by Philippines and now Australia.

>>5866614
The blue is a tampo/paint app, its actually to replicate a scene where his chest panels are glowing.

An excuse to break up the maroon red

>>5865884
>Hasbro like to remake TFs based on their original toys.
>Computron looks nothing like the original toy.

>>5866614
Afterburner's never used green. The toy had a white cockpit. Not sure about the cartoon, though.

>>5866597
I didn't really like how they made afterburner red, initially, but I guess it's a little more forgivable since it's a different shade of red compared to all the other components.

But I do hope lots of people are buying CW Computron just for Scrounge cuz I'm totally game to buy the Hasbro Afterburner, maybe Strafe too.

>>5866601
>gun turrets are facing toward the head
kek

>>5866601
>>5866623
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>>5866620
>I'm totally game to buy the Hasbro Afterburner, maybe Strafe too.

Sorry to break it to you, but it seems most people consider them the two strongest molds in the set.

>>5866601
>Those eyes
Please teach me your secret.

>>5865114
Yellow eyes?
Hit the clear yellow plastic with some Tamiya Clear Red. You can crack the head open or not (it's a bitch.) Boom. Red eyes. (No, they don't look orange.)

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>>5866625
Reminder that Sentinel Prime is both Dio Brando and Donald Trump at the same time

>>5866631
No he was saying either one is bad, he was trying to trigger both kinds of people

>>5866635
Ahh. okay. But I'm just sharing that $3.50 for a jar of Tamiya paint and about 10 minutes of time gives the best of both worlds. Takara's comic-accurate red eyes, and Hasbro's family of tapes.

Amyone own the Fakebusker upgrades for Galvatron?

>>5866641
How hard is it to get the head apart? I've never painted anything before, and I don't want to slop paint over Soundwave's nose or something.

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>>5866645
I'll give you gunpla noob paint tips so you can avoid pulling the head apart, you may choose not to follow.

>mask using sticky tack

Just smother nearby sections in the stuff, paint, let dry, then peel off after 24 hours, topcoat using clear lacquer spray for maximum, protection, USE LIGHT PASSES so they spray isn't gonna risk affecting plastic strength, MAKE SURE ITS GLOSS or the clear plastic will fog up.

There you go, as for painting the bit you can either use spray can or brush, you may thin your paints but for a first timer brush strokes will show, where's...

If you clog the brush with paint and slop it in the blob of paint would dry glossy which is what professional painters try to avoid as it comes out thick, but being clear it won't be too much of an issue unless you pour the jar in, because of how sloppy this method is its not the preferred method, pic related shows the example of literally blobbing in paint (the purple parts are the best example, got lazy masking those plus if you look hard enough some of the red ran off the eyes, yes this is hasbro's nucleon head)

>>5866645
For splitting apart tf heads that aren't straight up screwed in, I've wedged them apart using one of those flat/scraper exacto blades. It worked for disassembling my CW Blast Off's head, anyway.

>>5866266
I see hollow forearms so they were cheapskates from the get-go.

>>5866662
The takaracuck has arrived

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>>5866654
>it looks fine in hand but know the left side paint ran off
>only on a close up thanks to my own photo that the other side also had paint run

Whoops, got too close with the top coat or I didn't see that during the touch up, fuck it you never see that eye when its on the head.

I'll live with the mistake knowing I tried, I'll get paint thinner and try again another time, maybe

>>5866664
But the takara has the same hollow arms too, its literally just a redeco.

>>5866662
>where do these fist go

Anon the budget went towards making the back of the hollow legs, those flaps, what could they have done, maybe retractable fist with ugly leavers sticking out?

Why is it taking so long to get these waves? Just saw Galvatron, Skullcruncher and Bisk for the first time at TRU.

>>5866654
Look! It's Frieza!

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I now understand why people like to fanmode things, to see what abominations they could get.

Can alpha trion (now named AAA) star in pacific rim as Cherno Beta?

>>5866673
Kek, just trying to copy takara's paint scheme with some OC

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>>5866677
>I now understand why people like to fanmode things, to see what abominations they could get.

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Which would you cucks get?

>>5866705
Tha big one.

Because fuck you.

>>5866705
The TR one, because a): It's more in scale with other CHUG figures, b): it's got cross-figure compatibility with the headmaster gimmick and c): the headmaster can actually be removed and doesn't suck.

>>5866705
Takara's because it's show accurate.

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>>5866705
Mine isn't pictured

>>5866705
I already have the takara of the large one. No idea if local hasbro's bringing in the lone deluxe or the SDCC set

>>5866710
>>5866711
>jesus-christ-how-horrifying.jpg

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Any owners of scourge?

Can the wings rotate like in pic related's box art?

Because that would be nifty

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>>5866705
The one which is literally an Arwing

>>5866715
Nah.

>>5866672
>Bisk
The 1-step or Warrior class?

>>5866705
TR cuz the Blurr mold was great

New >>5866746

>>5866705

Why not all

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Got this little qt in the mail today.

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>>5866775
Here's a bonus pic. He is hella tiny and hella fun to mess around with.

>>5866746
>>5866746
>>5866746

NEW

>>5866733
not even, legion

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>>5866496
Sorry for the late reply, timezone difference here

2 of them were former AA people, it's just been one piece of major drama after another, I think the dealers have suffered the most due to having no tables for them and overbooking the dealer room (which is really tiny to begin with, even for local toy shows)

The panels were super bland and the guest list while pretty full is not anyone exclusive to Botcon or TransformersCons that I have done in the past.

Tomorrow will be the last chance for them but today we walk away from a show that is a solid 4 out of 10 right now. Makes Botcon look like a well oiled machine of a show

>>5866837
Guess it's still too early.

>>5866897
That's a damn shame. Botcon should always be the bottom of the barrel for convention experiences.

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>>5867069
Botcon only sucks to people who never went

Being from the UK I have done the "holy trinity" of Botcon, Tfcon and Auto Assembly.

Botcon will always be the bigger and better show and it's management is no more gobsmacked then that of Auto Assembly. Tfcon still seems to have a solid crew of people and it's more fun due to it feeling like an early Botcon 2000-2004 before movie and 80s interest came into being

But yes TFnation is now at the bottom of all of that. It was a damp squib on all levels

>>5866431
In idw, he's an ancient prime, and sovereign is basically the inheritor of ancient prime power.
They're demigods.

>>5866401
Who's thiss semen demon?

>>5866132
Transformed?