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Dio Trump Prime edition
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>>5862482
How did we go from this to that?
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>>5862505
IDW about 9 years ago.
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Anyone have any experience from buying transformers toys off from kijiji?
Am I supposed to tell them what I want to buy before meeting them in person?
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>>5862482
>>5859767
Previous thread.
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>>5862482
Well thanks to Funpub we have two former Primes as toys
Question is when will we get Zeta Prime?
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>>5862524
Have you seen the shit packaging for the TR toys? It's just tragic. Really, Hasbro? This is what we're down to? Cutting corners on the toys wasn't enough? Now this?
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>>5862524
>>5862593
Amidoinitrite?
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>>5862593
Why the hell are you complaining about the packing? The only reason you'd care, is if you're worried people are going to steal them and stores will stop stocking them due to that.
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>go to local pawn shop
>loads of tfs in glass cases, some priced, some not
>ask worker for the prices for the unmarked ones
>'oh I don't know anything about TFs, my coworker is a total toy nerd, he knows the going rate for most of the ones in the case'
>worker gets the other guy
>see ROTF Skystalker
>ask the guy to test the waters, pawn shop so will probably be $15/$20
>'uh i don't know, 4 bucks?'
>2 Skystalkers for $8
I kind of want to go back. There was a bunch of other stuff
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>>5862593
>>5862599
>implying they sell TR in stores
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>>5862510
That was a single panel, in a miniseries that was oversaturated. Sentinel is mostly yellow otherwise..
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>>5862631
nifty.
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>be in toy store
>see big CLEARANCE!!! tag
>it's attached to CW Devastator
>this is my chance!
>read the tag
>it's not even discounted, they're clearancing it at its full RRP
>tfw I feel nothing
>except for unyielding rage
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Other SoCal anons, is distribution here just fucked in general? The last time that releases here were consistent was during the first Beast Hunters series. I've been to four or five Wal-Marts and Targets and there's either nothing there or just barely a few figures from the current wave, Are people just fast and snatch them up that quickly or do the stores not really give a shit? I mean, it's not like I can't buy online so it's not really an issue.
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>>5862631
Go back holy shit
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>>5862631
I hope you didn't visibly show excitement or else he'll raise the price for other stuff on you.
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>>5862635
It's starting to trickle out, TRU's are current, but that's TRU. Some walmarts are getting the first wave.
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Can we get a new meme out of this?
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>>5862687
It's hip to fuck bees already is a thing
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>>5862513
anyone?
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>>5862786

Yes, of course. Otherwise, how would they know which toys to bring?
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>all these reviewers with wave 2 TR stuff

Jealousy is maximum.
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>>5862800
Then, jealous anon became a youtube reviewer too and was no longer anon anymore.
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>>5862794
oh I figured these guys carried their wares in a trolley or something like those bootleg anime laserdisc sellers back in the day
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>>5862687
"So that is why Bumblebee can't talk"
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>>5862786
I've bought and sold on Kijiji before. Honestly, it varies from seller to seller. If someone has put up a giant bin of stuff up for sale, I can understand asking to drop by their place to rummage and make an offer. If they have a clear list of stuff for sale, I would generally ask to buy the specific things you want and to meet up somewhere to do the sale.
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Would people recommend getting sentinel prime even i aleady plan to get Astrotrain?
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>>5862637
Was working on a custom and the hardest part so far is choosing the deco.
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>>5862838
his titanmaster head is the best one without a doubt for this wave
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>>5862838

I like him. But then again I'm a fan of his shockingly orange color.
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>>5862838
>not buying dio trump prime
RESISTING MY TITAN MASTER WALL IS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS
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Hows the Leader Blaster is he worth picking up?
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>>5862851
Horribly out of scale in the name of the legends cassettes gimmick and the base modes
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>>5862851

Love him, and I think he very much is worth it.
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>>5862843
feels like it'll be released in the future on its own with a TM vehicle
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>>5862853
There aren't many alternatives to Blaster anyway.
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>>5862593
Please state the nature of the problems causing your butthurt.
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>>5862635
Those of OPs pick I've seen at Target, TRU and Walgreens
TR in general are everywhere here even FYE has gotten them
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What did he mean by this?
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>>5863041
Wheeljack is shit.
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Any Australians?

I'm not part of the local tf forums but I'm just reporting kmart got in the dino rescues bots, I saw the preview of optimus as a trex and thought we wouldn't get that shit here.

Popped into my 24/7 kmart and I found this and a bumblebee, neither scanned (someone rammed them on a $29aud shelf but the tag was for a minicon deployer) but after a bit of sweet talking the cashier gave it to me for $13.

I love the fact he turns into a T-rex, but I was not prepared for the fact all of his transformation lies in twisting his waist around, also weird paint apps for the teeth which while symmetrical don't match the box art.

I'm so glad I found this, rescues bot anon, you gonna get this guy too?

If any Australian anons in Victoria are on and want the bumblebee, look where the rid2015 warriors are, I shifted him behind some stuff nearby, can't miss him, if you can make out what store I got it from try your luck, just don't claim the ticket said $13, I only got off because I was in rival retail gear and played the whole "oh I can only accept this price if you're allowed" speech when they were looking around the system, I doubt its worth $13 considering how overpriced everything is.

Anyway, enough blogging, its a kids toy optimus that turns into a t-rex and its awesome just because it is
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>>5863056
>rescuses bots

I knew I was tired from work maybe I was delusional or something, no regrets in this purchase
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>>5863056
>Any Australians?
>all this shitposting everyday all day
you have to ask?
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>>5863062
>posting wheelie
>no rhyming
Bad timing?

Thought I'd check before I get rekt
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>>5863056
That's a reissue if i'm not mistaken. They rotate the old molds quite often and reissue them alongside new ones.

If you like that optimus-rex, then you might be interested in the basic-sized dinosaurs based on the four main rescue-bots.
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>>5863068
Really, well I've never seen him here before.

>basic sized

Hrm...tell me does...chase, I think it was have one?

Or whatever the one voiced by the va who does Albert Wesker, it'd be the only other figure I'd ever want from the line
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>>5863069
Yeah these four. They were from 2 years back or whenever AoE was but I saw them being reissued 2 months back.

There's also large, voyager-sized-ish versions of Dino Optimus and Dino Heatwave with lights and sound.
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>>5863070
>voyager-sih optimus prime
Faaark, I'd be wrapped if that came here (less than $50 I hope), got a feeling we might miss these basics as they move VERY slowly here (still on gold armor one steppers clogging the shelves where I got my optimus prime) but I'll look for that chase figure.

Cheers anon
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Does anyone got a fix to the new Astrotrain mold's feet.

The rest of the body is great, but the damn locomotive feet dangling upside down on the back of the leg is just ridiculous and hard to ignore.
Some kind of 3d cap attachment or just cut it off and glue it upside down?
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>>5863094
Rotate them around, and use them as the feet.
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>>5863096
i bet he is gonna bitch about the pointy back of the feet as well
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>>5863096
that's cgi, not real life!
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>>5863096
From what I heard from reviews, the train side does not hold as feet as the shuttle nose's curve makes unstable.
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>>5863114
Well you can stabilize them on the train side it's just you can't close the front cafe. Here's a pick showing what it looks like
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>>5863114
>unstable.
Maybe that's a physical representation of what the character is about.
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>>5863125
That's pretty deep for an Astrotrain recolor.
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I finally got myself a version of the stag beetle mold. The deco really gives him a separate personality from Skrapnel, and the head is great.
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>>5863136
Beetle mode is the best. The big mandibles really do it for me, and the stable legs make him much less of a hassle to mess with than Bombshell.

I need me a Skrapnel to go with this guy.
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>>5863137
[1/5]
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>>5863141
[2/5]
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>>5863136
>>5863137
>>5863141
People actually bought this shitty redeco?
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>>5863143
[3/5]

>>5863144
Insecticons are great, anon.
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>>5863144
Its a good homage, and unlike some toys in cw it at least has anew head.

Plus its a legends class, its a throw away purchase
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>>5863146
[4/5]
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>>5863146
The mold is gr8, but the Chop Shop redeco is terrible.
>>5863147
Meh, whatever. Waste your money however you like
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>>5863149
[5/5]
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>>5863151
Why do you think it's bad, anon? Is it because you don't think the Skrapnel mold suits the character, or because the mostly red color scheme is too dull?
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>>5863155
Both. Chop Shop doesn't look like Shrapnel, and the red color scheme, while mostly accurate, isn't very interesting
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>>5863164
I can see where you're coming from. The look really grew on me though since he was first announced last year. The dull red makes him look more like a real beetle in bug mode. And the reuse is fine with me since I have no attachment to the character, but that's just me.
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>>5863136
All they needed to do to make me truly believe this was Chop Shop was remold the pincers and it would have been a thousand times better. Also make it brown instead of red-orange. I still like it as it is, though

>>5863164
Eh. It's quite passable, really. Better than most forced repaints.

>>5863152
Kek. I wish I still had all the pictures I took last year of my little targetmaster Chop Shop robbing a whole warehouse.
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>>5863094
>>5863096
Are these different versions or just art shit?
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>>5863195

Same thing just one is the CGI mockup and the other the actual toy.
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>>5863195
The 2nd one is just a CAD software render.
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Is Apeface in US stores yet? I can't seem to find him anywhere.
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When will HTS and (direct) Amazon get in TR stuff?
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>>5863228
Amazon got TM's and the Legends in the last couple of days.

They also unofficially sold Fortress Maximus for some reason, despite still taking pre-orders for him.
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>>5862482
I understand the Trump meme but how does Dio figure into all this?
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>>5863233

Sentinel's TM can stop time. He's literally Dio Trump: The robot action figure.
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>>5863233
His TM has time stop powers that work for a limited time.

The comic revealed the heads could eat sparks and use that energy to power a body for thousands of years.
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>>5863235
>>5863239
It's not exactly time stop, it's more of slowing time down. The exact extent of this power is never revealed though, so technically we could assume he could with enough effort slow time down to a point that it's practically frozen

>FIGHTING MY WALL OF TITAN MASTERS IS USELESS
>MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
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>>5863235
>>5863239
>>5863252
>Sentinel is LITERALLY Dio
>Optimus will LITERALLY be Joseph
>Hot Rod will have to LITERALLY be Jotaro
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>>5863259

Anyone got Sentinel and PM Prime to do some Jojo recreations? I would but I'd never buy PM Prime 'cause he ugly.
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>>5863239
I know his toy bio says he can pretty much Za Warudo, but doesn't the SDCC booklet instead say he can't do that, but rather create force fields?

Still, don't want to argue with Dio Trump.
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>>5863228
HTS has a bunch of TR stuff
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>>5863269
Probably a mistake.
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>>5863268
Don't have PM Prime, but if we're doing Hot Rod Jotaro, I did this.
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>>5863046
Just that one.
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>>5862852
Mmmmmm, scalefag tears.
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>>5862593
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So what is the general consensus on alpha trion's retool?

>lio prime
>vector prime
>victory leo
>tidalwave/broadside
>nothing because it was just made for him

Lend me your opinions
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>>5863259
Nah Rodimus is a younger Joseph.
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>>5863259
>hot rod is jotaro
Probably no. Hot rod is Josephu Joestah, Optimus is Jonathan Joestah
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>>5863314
Leo Prime/Victory Leo will be straight repaints with a headmaster swap

Tidalwave/Broadside will be a massive retool
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>>5863259
comus get out
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>>5863314
Vector Prime since it is the PRIME WARS Trilogy.
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>>5863314
>tidalwave/broadside
No, they need original molds.
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>>5862704
Look at the name on the car, "Gran Autismo." Remember what thread we are in.
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>>5863252
>Sentinel's requiem Stand
>「WARRU OBA ZA WARUDO」
Oh no, Hasbro learned how to push all my shitpost meme buttons
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>tfw qt Rei Ayanami TF that turns into a cute little blue Nissan Micra never
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>>5863394
Isn't there a toy that goes from truck to her robot?
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>>5863423
There's one that goes from Unit 00 to Truck. No actual Reiformer though.
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>>5863394
Why stop there?
Waifu-formers could be a thing!
>Rei & Asuka car-modes
>Ryoko Space ship mode
>Belldandy & Urd (elegant) air ships modes, with Skuld as some small maintance helicopter/ship
>The Rayearth girl turning into a Lion, a Dragon and a Gryphon, with a combiner mode!

Shit we can keep this going on and on and on, for as many waifus as there exist !
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>>5863436
Wouldn't it be easier to just get the licence for one company instead of all over the place?
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>>5863436
>Deluxe scale Noriko Takaya forming headmaster for a truly COLOSSAL (if slightly inaccurate) Gunbuster
I never knew I wanted this.
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>>5863094
>the new Astrotrain mold
There is no "new Astrotrain mold". He's a mere remold.

Cry more, bitch.
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>>5862687
NEW ROBOT
GRAN AUTISMO
ONLY 29.99$
TAKEKRA TOMMY MALL EXCLUSIVE
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>>5863259
>>5863315
>>5863316
UM is Caesar
Ginrai is Josuke

Who is Jotaru??
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so what does /toy/ think of the Takara version of this guy?

pic related
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>>5863475
Feet are a bit weird, but overall a massive improvement. No hollow arms, actual ankle tilts and a much better look overall.
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>>5863475
I wish the could've done something about the wheels next to feet instead of just letting them hang out like that
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>>5863475
>That heel
I just realised the legs might look alright if you just twist them around.
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>>5863475
>Those """feet"""
I guess everything else is okay, but I don't give a shit about Prime so I'm passing.
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>>5863353
They're going to be voyager headmaster. why not add another disapointment to the list?
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>>5863144
He's a nice mold.
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>>5863542
Great with his mini-me.
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>>5863503
Good thing he ain't Prime.
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>>5863564
Please, don't pretend to be retarded
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>>5862637
the more I see this, the more I think they could have painted the head, torso, and shoulders yellow and this figure would look 10 times better.
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>>5863571
>Character who isn't Optimus, is Optimus Prime

What a retard.
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>>5863571
>God Ginrai
>Optimus
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>>5863585
>no godbomber
>god ginrai
Pick one you poser
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>>5862637
Kind of wish they'd base his toy design on the upper right image, instead of being a recolored Astrotrain. The arm cannons, and treads make him look way better.
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Can anyone name all these
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>>5863612
Why would I name them? I'm pretty sure they have names already.
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>>5862599
>>5862635
>>5863291

How's that bait taste, fellas?
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>>5863612
If there was better pictures of them then just a pile of plastic bags, yes.
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>>5863612
Deluxe Movie Ratched
Deluxe Beast Hunter Roadbuster
Movie 1 Preview Comet Optimus Prime
Beast Machines Bruticus
Movie Barricade repaint
HftD Terradive
The repaint of Terradive, Space Case?
RotF Ramjet x2
A Yellow Repaint of Armada Thrust
Beast Hunters Dreadwing
Cybertron Breakdown GTS
Cybertron Blaster
Some Beast Wars Rhinox, probably the 15th Anniversary One

I can't tell on the other 7
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>>5863666
>>5863612


On the missing, I think maybe there is a Beast Machines Snarl, a Cybertron Crumplezone, and HFTD Hailstorm.
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>>5862513
>>5862786
Basically what this guy >>5862794 said.

>>5862806
Projecting much? Also are you that retarded to think people will be walking around with $500+ worth of wares like a salesman back in the 60's?
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So I got this gay robot and a couple more yesterday and I don't know why I am enjoying him more than most of the legends I have bought in the past year when CW started. Most of them I just bought then threw in the shelve but this one he just screams fabulous.
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>>5863666
I don't know if you are a saint or an idiot.
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>>5863706
that anon had 6trips, clearly not a saint
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>>5863726
Transformers is Satan's heroine
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>>5863688

He's a really fun lil' bot is why. His altmodes are decent too, and he has pretty standard articulation so he has no major faults.

Only downside is mine's stickers were placed off center so they're a little fucked around the edges.
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>>5863726
Then he is an (s)AINT.
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When will Wave 2 be readily available online? I'm super excited for the new Weirdwolf. He's got some neat transformation tricks among other things.
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>>5863783

You could snag them off eBay, if you don't mind paying $40-80 per figure.
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>>5863783
Just got him in the mail. Paid like double for him but....like it a lot. He's super fun. The transformation is nice, the big gun is ungodly zoids like. Back legs a bit wonky looking from certain angles, claw paint is fucking awful, but nothing a gundam marker can't fix.
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>>5863788
>>>5863706
Or just wait for the Takara ones which is only like 40 bucks with the shipping.
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>>5863788
Lol no way.
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>>5863791
>anime heads

You're not fooling anyone.
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>>5863790
Yeah, what the hell's with the claw paint? I remember peaugh thinking maybe it was meant to be a design element like the metal claws are all scratched up but I really doubt it.
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>>5863810

It's probably intentional, several reviewers have shown it off.

Never heard of drybrushing metallic paints before?
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>>5863810
It's like that on the render.
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>>5863810
I didn't know it was a thing all of em had. Feel less annoyed about mine.
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>>5863814
I'm just surprised a Hasbro TF in this current age was trying something like that.

>>5863820
Huh. Weird.
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>>5863799
I still don't get what's wrong with it.
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>>5863838
Where do you think all the paint budget for the Titan Masters went?
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>>5863840

They look bad compared to the original toy heads.
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>>5863783
Tf direct has the whole wave for like $75 i think.
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>>5863844
They aren't accurate, sure, but neither are most of the hasbro tr ones.
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>>5863856
But that premium price is for "Accuracy" when they aren't "Accurate". They have a smidge more pain, but suffer the same QC issues as Hasbro stuff.
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>>5863838
>Huh. Weird.
Wolf
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>>5863612
Literally a bunch of trash. If you paid more than 2 bucks each for those you might as well just be buying dogshit.
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Wave 2 Titans Return figures on TF-Direct for Retail. No boxes/instructions tho.

$59.99 + $12.99 shipping.
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>>5863880
http://tf-direct.com/no-box-titans-return-2016-deluxe-class-set-of-4_p1429.html

forgot the link
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>>5863880
>No Box, No Instruction
I can wait.
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>>5863856
I still appreciate the Hasbro heads for attempting to replicate the look of the toy heads, even if they aren't perfect. People

say they barely look like them, but I think they're being willfully obtuse. They say the shapes barely match and they take too many liberties, but it was inevitable. The limited engineering of the 80's meant the Headmaster heads had to be proportioned a certain way, with giant helmet tops and small faces. The TR heads tweek the proportions to be more in line with the regular TF head proportions we've become accustomed to.

I'm buying some Takara Legends stuff, sure. I ordered Skull, and a few more like Ginrai and Blurr. But as far as most regular deluxes go, I can't say the Takara stuff seems worth it. I already felt like $~42 shipped for skull was a gut punch..he's not going to be worth the price of similar figures.
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>>5863880
12 dollar shipping, and they're opened? Nah, I can wait.
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>>5863859
>"Accuracy" when they aren't

They're accurate to what they're intended to be accurate to.

>They have a smidge more pain
I'm into that.
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>>5863706

Why is that?
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>>5863885
The really are poor likeness's though, that's nobodies fault but the designers.
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>>5863317
Yeah, ditto. If Broadside uses that mold, it'll probably be a major reworking, probably with a different torso/arm transformation.
I'm glad I have both previous BotCon versions.

>>5863346
Huh... I dunno. Seems redundant. but whatever.

>>5863475
Looks pretty common that people like most of it but hate the feet. I feel the same.

>>5863572
2 versions of Sentinel Prime at the start, and they don't make one of them yellow. WTF.
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>>5863901
I don't see how, though. Like I said, the original Headmaster heads ate weirdly proportioned. I can see you getting different takes on them depending on who you ask to "normalize" them One person may see a huge vent as intentional, another may see it as a stylistic thing. So a huge vent becomes a tiny crest on TR. I can deal with that. It fits what I'm used to with Classics updates.
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>>5863475
Preordered. I got the Hasbro one too, so...
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What do you think of this sentinel prime I painted?
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Find a flaw.
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>>5863930
Back side
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>>5863931
He's really great but the Hasbro look is pretty bland. He needs more of that light blue.
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>>5863930
Despite the picture being a bit blurry, it turned out pretty good, now post the other modes.
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>>5863933
That or a lighter shade of blue for the plastic. I'm not sure if the original G1 toy was that dark.
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>>5863459
By G1 logic, Hot Rod would be Josep, and Fortress would be Jotaro.
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>>5863870
How's the ceiling smell?
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>>5863935
Here you go I still need to add paint for jet mode
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>>5863949
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>>5863954
Weird how there are train windows molded on the robot back but they are always hidden by the wings.
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>>5863679
last time I checked there were no LDs back in the 60's boyo
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>>5863937
It had a shade of blue around that dark on it, I think.
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>actually manage to get decepticon cassette bots before soundwave LOCALLY in Canadian retailer
distribution for this line is really fucked up.
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>>5863975
Yep.
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>>5863977

I've yet to find any of the Titans Return Legends in stores in the states.

And weirdly enough found Wave 2 of the Titan Masters first.
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>>5863977
It's true. We got Firtess Maximus months befire anything else from the line showed up, then we go Titan Masters before any if the body figures, which have only just now started showing up at the most expensive retailer only. Deluxes only, no Legends, Voyagers or Leaders in sight.
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>>5863989
>barely have Wave 1 in the US
>other countries are drowning in Wave 2

No, really, what the fuck is going on here? What the fuck is Hasbro doing? Did someone fall asleep at the switch here or something?
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>>5863989
>>5863996
Its not too hard to figure on our end, at least. the last two waves of Legends/deluxe CW figures are lingering,as are a few Voyagers from the middle. MEanwhile, Titan Masters and Fort Max are in two size classes that either where absent in CW, or have long since sold through(Devastator). Titans Return launching in Summer as a bad idea, these types of launches have always been tricky in the 15+ years I've been collecting.
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>>5863989
>>5864001
Aside from distribution, they vastly underestimated the demand for this line.
Every store in my area has been picked clean of TR line. (except Fortmax)
The only proof that they were ever there to begin with are the pricetags on the empty shelves.
Like they only last a day or two on the shelves before they're all sold out.

Also, what the hell is Laserbeak's vehicle mode supposed to be?
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>>5864003
>Also, what the hell is Laserbeak's vehicle mode supposed to be?

I always thought of it as a forklift. Maybe a battering ram? I think Titan Masters can ride it.
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>>5864005
>I think Titan Masters can ride it.
The only Legends class toy in this line that can transport a Titan Master is Wheelie.
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>>5864006
Kickback and Bumblebee will be able to as well, so I gather, but at this point it's just Wheelie.
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>>5864003
>Also, what the hell is Laserbeak's vehicle mode supposed to be?

I think it's either a forklift, or the worlds shittiest tank.
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Finally an accurate Sentinel Prime.
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>>5864009

Bumblebee can? Doesn't look like it.
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>>5864013
Maybe I'm confusing him with Wheelie since their old Legends altmodes were similar.
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Hardhead Flight Mode.
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>>5864003
Its a forklift thing.

I think retailers are still adjusting to combiner wars' seeming massive success. For the longest time Classics lines just bounced between selling fast and just stagnating for several months on a single wave. Combiner Wars was the first one I saw(and heard, all anecdotal of course) selling through each quarter as intended. You wouldn't see a toy from Wave 2 or 3 linger months later, they where just gone. For retailers, this is just a non-movie tie in line so they don't see why they should order more than usual. they expect liens like this to longer. Even if they notice, they're low priority orders.

Gonna be interesting to see what they can do to keep up this success with the next line.
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>>5864012
Looks good, maybe paint some orange on the red bits.
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>>5864027
>Combiner Wars was the first one I saw(and heard, all anecdotal of course) selling through each quarter as intended.

I think you're right, Combiner Wars was actually the first Classics/Universe whatever series where I actually saw every single wave in stores and consistently.
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>>5864013
Looks like the roof can hinge open.
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>>5864030

Yeah, I assume that's for transformation? You could probably wedge a Titan Master in there though.
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>>5863996
As usual, I blame Walmart.
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>>5864027
>Presence of a visual media advertisement influences retailer's amount of purchase
Would it break Hastak's bank to produce a PROPER OVA (Netflix) mini-series (Machinima one for CW is just awful) for this line?
Lego did it for G2 Bionicle.
I ask every kid cousins of mine if they watch TF:RID, and none of them do.
And RID toys are the literal shelfwarmers at the moment.
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>>5864003
at first glance it looked like some kind of amphibious atv, but yeah now that I notice the little grabby claws it's some weird forklift.

In reality though it's just the barest that could be considered a vehicle.
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>>5864006
There's no seat but there is a little nub for a Titan Master to stand on. Don't know about the cat mold.
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>>5864003
A dozer/tank to protect soundwaves Base mode (or Fort Max, or whatever)
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>>5864036

The solution has been clear for years.

Kill RiD, kill any sublines that aren't CHUG, and go all in on pandering to nostalgia with a Nu-G1. Shit, they don't even have to write anything, they could just adapt the IDW stuff.
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>>5864012
Shit, I'd have bought the SDCC version if it looked that good.
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>>5864012
I really need to develop painting skills, so many figures look better with details actually painted in
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>>5863455
Mah nigga
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>>5864003
I decided to pretend that his vehicle mode is a missile buggy.
Does anyone know how to print your own stickers?
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>>5863436
>Panty and Stocking Pretenders never ever
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>>5864042
I suggested doing a straight G1 reboot on /co/, and they just laughed at the idea. but its really what the franchise needs. Its ridiculous that G1 continues to be the lifeblood of the franchise, yet an actual G1 based newcartoon has yet to happen. All the new alterations and takes on characters just makes things more confusing for people getting into the franchise, especially when things will gravitate to a take on G1 anyway.

RiD isn't bad, but its 2 seasons in and its still just a dead slot on the Network, loosely tied to a failed flagship show of a dead network. 6+ years deep into that universe and it hasn't really ignited any interest. Hasbro needs a more focussed, dedicated animated effort.

There's no reason to have a "Cartoon line" and a "Classics" line. The novelty of a stylized aesthetic that started with animated is over. The show can still be stylized to a degree(you pretty much have to with 2D) , but let the toys still look like the usual aesthetic. It was fine in the RiD-Cybertron years.
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>>5864059
That's how I have my Buzzsaw, works.
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>>5864062
Stop anon, I'm still upset over no season 2
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>>5864064
Prime was really normal looking other than the lack of noses. And Anime things had a bunch strange looking characters like the Autobot brothers, Scavenger and Side Swipe, or half the non-Cybertron and Earth natives.
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>>5863688
The phone mode really does it for me.
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>>5864081
>Prime was really normal looking other than the lack of noses.

Not really. Aesthetically it takes a lot from the movies, albeit less complex. There's a lot of skewed proportions and design work that's more complex than a regular series would be.

> And Anime things had a bunch strange looking characters like the Autobot brothers, Scavenger and Side Swipe, or half the non-Cybertron and Earth native

Toy wise they looked what we were used to. The autobot Brothers where kibbly and asymmetric, but that's just a holdover from BW Neo. Armada's aesthetic was pretty close to the vehicle stuff we had seen up until then.
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>>5864094
Look at Hot Shot.
Now look at G1 Prowl and Jazz.
Now look at Hot Shot again.
See the difference?
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>>5864062
Turd party pls
>>5864070
Inorite
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>>5864013
>Bumblebee can? Doesn't look like it.

How is vision impairment working for you retard?
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>>5864096
He has a different helmet sty;e and chunky fists, but he doesn't have the extremely different proportions as Animated and Prime. He is different to about the same degree as the 86 movie cast.
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>>5864027
Why is John Warden so based?

Truly the person who is going to save TFs since Archer, Roberts, Bay and Kyde ruined it for all of us.
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>>5864116
>"Um... Mr. Warden, it's... the toy.... it's all one big shade of blue...."
>"Relax kiddo, oil prices are high so we need to save money on paint apps. Besides, they'll buy it anyways"
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>>5864116
Because he's practical and isn't impeded by following the stagnating approach Archer and company fell into. In the incessant desire to continue to do new things , it was getting to the point where basic things like combiners weren't getting updated in order to do things like pad out the movie lines, or launch another cartoon. The new team seem more on the pulse of what fans like, but while also doing stuff that's playable and would appeal to kids. There's no "kids need Bumbleebee and Optimus!" mentality. Or at least, that's saved for RiD.
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>>5864096
Yeah, one of those three bricks has a gimmick.

In all honesty though, there is definitely a distinct style difference between G1 and the Unicron Trilogy, but we've gotten so many more radical style shifts over the years (Bayformers, Animated, possibly High Moon) that the Armada designs look more G1 in comparison.
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>>5864110
I'm happy we're finally getting a decent looking legends bumblebee. The other one was too "futuristic" looking and the head was disproportionately small.
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>>5864130
But we are still getting a bunch of different Optimus Primes, Megatrons, Starscreams, and Bumblebees.
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>>5864130
Warden's team still does Bee and Optimus, but they understand that you shouldn't smother the whole line with them. At one convention he said that Transformers will always have its legacy characters like Prime and Megatron, and as such they'll be putting out new versions every few years.

That means an Optimus and Megatron in T30, and in CW, and in TR, but muh less frequently than there used to. No Nitro Bumblebee, or Dark Energon Megatron, or what have you.
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>>5864154
>Starscreams
Not the way we need him though
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>>5864172
>Pocket sized starscream
>Big Starscream
>Simplified Huescream
>Cape Starscream
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>>5864036
>Lego did it for G2 Bionicle.
And look where that got them.
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>>5864178
I just want a new deluxe-voyager dedicated Seeker mold. Is that too much to ask for.
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>>5863883
Someone make me a repaint of that please
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>>5864183
They already made one that was the original toy but better and repainted it a hundred time
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>>5864192
The Classics mold is a decade old, anon. It hasn't aged particularly well either.
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To anyone who owns the new Titans Returns Legends Ravage, is it better than the CHUG Ravage that came with Hound? I'm debating on buying it but the wings on him, the head, and the lack of an actual tail really kill it.
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>>5864197
It has too much plastic compared to a modern toy.
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>>5864064
The cartoon is ending with RID. It'll just be the annual Movie line, Generations and Rescue Bots
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>>5864154
But not at the rates we where getting before. And in sensible size classes, no leader bumblebee nonsense. Doing one figure of those a year in each line is sensible; they're core characters. Gotta have the main leader and right hand man for new fans. Classics was getting to he point where trying to get through the backlog of classics releases would cost a new fan hundreds of dollars.

The thing about Transformers as a line that lets it have hundreds of characters is that grunt characters carry the line as much as most prominent ones; not like superhero toylines. A kid buys a random car Autobot like, say, Hound,and he can make him as important in his stories as he wants to. In the 07-2010 era, It was clear who the main heroes where, Optimus and Bumblebee. They're shown as the best and get the most fanfare and must get the best toys, right? So a kid, who probably isn't going to be able to get many transformers, gets to pick out a toy, he'll go for the best; Optimus or Bumblebee. That makes the other characters linger.
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>>5864213
Battle Core Optimus Prime.
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>>5864207
I don't know, it felt pretty tiny and short on plastic for the time. It'd probably fit right in the modern era. I remember thinking it felt like a total downgrade from Energon Starscreama t the time, and had no idea what oldfags on forums saw in him.
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>>5864212
Right. It'll probably be a reboot and hopefully with a larger production budget and toy line. The current show is such a dead-end they are not going to do a direct sequel.
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>>5864220
You mean the stealth Nova/Ulra Magnus homage? Ok, I admit I screwed up the "one figure a year in each line" thing by overlooking that. still, it's a far smaller use of recourses than doing a whole different sculpt across several sizeclasses like, say, DOTM did.
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>>5864221
It doesn't fit in the current lineup where you have Voyager Triple Changers and Constructicons. Sure you could go deluxe scaled and they work, but currently there is too many holes or weak/crummy molds for a deluxe scale collection compared to a scaled up one.
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>>5864205
I wouldn't call it better than Universe Ravage. Buy it if you like Ravage a lot, or if you want fodder for Leader Soundwave, but not if you're looking to replace the old one.
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>>5864212
>>5864227
Having a cooldown time of a couple years where they pump out mostly remakes of old guys seems like a decent thing. Then having a different style for the cartoon of 2020 or whatever will have more impact and hopefully have a distinct feeling.
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>>5864251
I believe that was largely the intent of RID given the lack of attention and investment in the toyline and the b-listers running the show with the endgame for Hasbro to develop a new and better show to air on CN.
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>>5863688
I really want to repaint mine into Rosanna.

I'm fine with the Data Disks.
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>>5864259
Rosanna is an irrelevant.
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>>5864259
That is not a bad idea. Problem is that the black plastic would look bad being paint white over.
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>>5863820
Ugh I want this shit so bad
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>>5864258
>Bumblebee has a flying team member in Windblade
>Can't combine with her for a flying super mode

What a waste.
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>>5864166
Hot damn this mold looks so good
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>>5863820
It kind of makes it look like "claws" for transformers are made of mineral substances instead of being made of protein like on organic beings.
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>>5864180
It was gonna end with or without that netflix show anyways.
That show was a fanservice.
Lego used Bionicle as a short break to figure out what to do next with their CCBS line.
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>>5864301
CCBS was a mistake.
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>>5864304
you got THAT right at least
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>Master Sword

HOW CAN TAKARA KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?
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Am I doing something wrong, or is it just supposed to be really hard to get Nightbeat to fit into his compartment for drilltank mode? Getting him in or out of there feels like I'm gonna break his neck or the yellow socket.
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>>5864359
Go in at an angle and slide his head up into the socket
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>>5864375
O///O
Children come on this board, anon!
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>>5864359
Yep, it's a stupid design flaw
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>>5864183
Honestly the new RID Starscream mold is pretty damn good, despite being an RID toy.
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>>5864382
Ok, I laughed.
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>>5864062
>Stocking-tron
>has TF:A Megatron's rotor blade sword
I thought Japan didn't like TF:A? Then again, they're the only ones that got Animated Blackout so maybe i am wrong
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>>5864281
Me too, and Mindwipe.
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>>5864384
It's designed by Hasui and he loves Starscream.
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>>5863820

Wait what the fuck this is a headmaster?
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>>5864359
Are you turning the head around so the flat side is at the top of the socket? Sounds like you're having the same problems I had when trying to put it in the other way.
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>>5864350
This is odd. Are those suppose to be the colors fort the sword? I thought it would have the same colors as the Hong Kong version.
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>>5864427
Yeah try having his head the "wrong way" in, it somehow slides in easier.
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>>5864297

It's supposed to be metal claws that are all scratched up.
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>>5864451
Yeah, there's little nubs lower down in the front of the socket that work with the curve on the side bits of the tiny head when the flat side is facing up. Goes in buttery smooth (tm Vangelus), but what a strange minuscule design choice.
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>>5863790
Does the wolf mouth open and close? I can't tell from the images.
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>>5864481

Yes. He has red translucent teeth, too.
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>>5864485
Awesome, that was my biggest concern with the mold.
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>>5864479
Post TF that can gerwalk
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>>5864488
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Now that we're finally getting an updated Galvatron and Blurr with G1 alt-modes, how long until we get a microscope Perceptor?
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>>5864497
>nb4 Galvatron is the remold from Galvatron for his old canon mode and a new jet mode
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>>5864500
Perceptor is the remold from Galvatron, I mean.
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>>5864501
>>5864500
hate to disappoint but Perceptor will be a deluxe
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>>5864497
Maybe I'm the minority, but I'd like to see some updated altmodes, like a spy satellite for Preceptor, or a Soyuz rocket for Astrotrain.
Sort of like what they do with the movie lines, but with CHUG-like designs.
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I like RiD but more Steeljaws and Bumblebees on the shelf? Nope.
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>>5864509
Just what we need, more of the shelf warmers with even more overpriced shit kids don't want.
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>>5864497
>Perceptor
Wasn´t he on the leaked list? Hardhead and Blaster would be the easier remolds.
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>>5864496
Cheesus, Arcee can't you even stop touching yourself in altmode?

>>5864497
Soon on TR wave 4, straight repaint.
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>>5863314
Holy shit he's shorter than I thought he'd be.
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>>5864518
Leak swears he's a new mold, so I'd wager a heavy retool of hardhead and not just a repaint.
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>>5864513
>Blaster
Leader class, somewhat 1:1 sized microscope?
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>>5864525
I'm a bit surprised they haven't been using the Hardhead mold for all it's worth. It's extremely easy to replace the cockpit area, and the front of the vehicle with something else.

I'd be really easy to make it a normal tank, or a crazy car with treads.
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>>5864530
I love that mold as much as I loved rook, I would buy every single retool/repaint of it and yet we are seeing absolutely NOTHING. What gives?! Shit, I'd even buy a Tankor from that mold.
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>>5864530
>>5864531
>CW
>people bitch about repaints
>TR
>people bitch no repaints
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>>5864534
He was talking about retools.
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>>5864509
>Aligned continuity
>cartoons rarely bother being in continuity with games or even other cartoons
>Takara just does its own thing
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Did anyone mention takara legends fort max has the sword?

It's confirmed with an image not on my phone, it's decorated like the sdcc but blue stickers\tampos instead.
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>>5864555
Looks good, shame they couldn't work their magic to include a gun for him.
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>>5864534
I never bitched about repaints in CW and I'm not bitching about no repaints in TR, all I'm saying is that if they continued the CW trend of repaints and retools aplenty I would gladly buy every hardhead mold.
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>>5864205
I don't own TR Ravage, but reviewers make it come out as really bad.

>>5864497
>>5864116
What I love about the current developers team is that they're going for G1 toy accuracy. Things are looking bright for TR Perceptor.

Unlike for CW, I actually don't mind the mold reusage mentality for this line. I can't wait for Krok, Quake and possibly Magnificus.
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>>5864350
>Have Takara Fort Max on preorder
>Really want version with sword
>Start scrambling to get cash for SDCC version
>See this

Fucking based Takara.
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>>5864518
Quake is the retool of Hardhead. So Peceptor is probably a brand new mold.
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>>5864518
>>5864601
Leakers have confirmed that Perceptor is a new mold.
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>>5864116
>Warden
>based
kek, no.
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>>5864630
t. butthurt furryfag
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>>5864513
Yup.
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>>5862631
>London, Camden town, antique toy store
>G1 PM Prime without any accessories, but with one targetmaster as a gun
>ask guy how much for the gun only
>tells me he doesn't know anything about transformers, but won't sell the gun alone
>Prime was 50 £
>left
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>>5863475
>hooves
>pass
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>>5864509
I wish steeljaw was retooled to be better, he's a cool looking design, and just, unserved by the stupid toy.
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>>5863898
This guys comes here, posts a photo of toys he just dumped there, still in plastic bags, asks for people to identify them while most of them are easily identifiable with a little Google magic. And you just sat down and did your best to help him. That's why.
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>>5864716
Unless you have a bad memory or poor recognition skills, it's not anything difficult to identify them.
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>>5864710
Thankfully that lame forced-meme spewing anon hasn't watched RiD. While Steeljaw is not a bad character, and is actually a legit threat at times, he's been cucked all over in both the show and the merchandise.
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>>5863977

I still haven't seen any Legends yet or deluxes.

I did find two Titan Masters both were from wave 2.

Rewind and Wheelie I hope won't be difficult to find.
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>>5864728
And that's exactly why he should have done it himself. Or asked for help properly.
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>SDCC:Will you take this sword and bring justice to the world
>Legends:Well least I won't be some bs limited edition like you

Based takara, also the sword has a different pattern, in the next post
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>>5864744
It ain't pretty like the hasbro limited edition but still has more color than the SDCC one which has gold patterned stickers only on the side bits
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>>5864036

western animation OVA's would be cool.
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So who are all the "headmaster warriors"? I know of kirk, rodney, lione, and shuffler
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>Get myself a reissue G1 figure
>Going through all the sprues scars with a razor
>The razor hit a die cast part and scratched the paint

I know most original G1 toys rarely survive to modern era with their die cast part fully covered in paint.
So, should I use a sticker to cover the scratched part up or just completely ignore it?

Yes, I got OCD
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>>5864759
>Yes, I got OCD

Replace the figure. Literally the only option. You will always know the scratch is there, and that's a special kind of hell.
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>>5863930
Looks great, good job. It might look even better if you painted the grey on his thighs, biceps, etc the same color.
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>>5864296
I agree, the only things I could consider issues are the arm cannon being a little small and the apparent lack of torso twist

I'll get one and custom it into an Overcharge/Diaclone version

Which headmaster do you think would work better to replicate this face?
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>>5864739
What i'm saying is, it's no skin off the back of the one who identified them, you're making it seem like he went out of his way when it's not even that big of a deal.
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>>5864744
>>5864745
So this is Takara's first non-fuckup so far in Titan's Return

Based on their track record during Combiner Wars this might also be their only one
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>>5864793
Unless the qc is bad, which remains a possibility.
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>>5864794
Ah yes, it might be like UW Bruticus except that this actually looks good.

If worst comes to worst I'll get the standard retail and the Perfect Effect weapons.
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>>5864789
Cerebros or Clobber?
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>>5864793
What? all of their TR releases have been fine.
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>>5864798
They've been fine other than that they're excessively ugly and are literally the definition of MUH GEEWUN in toy form. Same thing applies to their CW shit
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>>5864802
...anything classed as a generations toy is gonna have that MUH GEEWUN syndrome.

Better switch to rid2015 or rescue bots if it hurts
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>>5864802

>excessively ugly
I think you're confused, you're referring to hasbro there.

>MUH GEEWUN
No shit, they're meant to be g1 updates.
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>>5864764
>Replace the figure.

I think I can live with it if the damaged part is covered up well enough.

really though, I did not expect the paint on the die cast part would come off this easily when painted plastic part required a lot more effort to chip away the paint.
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>>5864803
That's not close to true though. People have been whining all Combiner Wars that Superion, Menasor and Defensor aren't MUH GEEWUN enough because the designers took some creative liberties with a toy line which is supposed to homage, not emulate, G1 and related continuities. That's why T30 had multiple Armada and Beast Wars figures.

>>5864804
So you prefer the shitty genericon blank face over something that looks at least slightly unique? Man, talk about poor taste.

And read above for the G1 update bullshit
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>>5864804
Not him, but the hasbro and takara heads are subject to opinions, I like the sharpness of the hasbro faces but ended up buying the takara faces just because they're crisp and a damn good cut homage, yet people keep referring to stock images of the takara ones and or just have lips.

Both are good and homage well, well the headmaster characters anyway guys like blurr suffer
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>>5864807
So you're telling me the autistic fanbase wasn't happy with the homage that the generations lines have done even though outside of mp's they can't get any closer?

What else is new, I must say the TR line is an interesting beast, the only creative liberties is slight proportions, nothing original to it like deluxe galvatron turning into a tank unless you count galvatron's flight mode.

It makes me worry, I liked the creative liberties they've taken because the damn point of the generations lines is to homage g1 characters in fitting forms, not replicate.

Fucking fanboys are cheapskates, they should stick to mp's if that's the case
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>>5864807
They are meant to be updates though, a homage is a reference to something, when they're based on something, it's a update.

>>5864809
I know, but he's too stupid to realise that it's all opinions.
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>>5864814
Well people have been whining all Combiner Wars about the 4 main combiners not being geewun enough, what do you think?

TR has so far been fairly G1, with the exceptions being some of the head designs and previously non-headmaster characters now being headmasters, and not to mention some of the new third modes for voyagers like A3 and Aspergo.

I'm not worried at all, as long as they can deliver good figures that manage to resemble G1 and still be a modernized rerepresentation of it, I'm fine. That's why I like Hasbro's Hardhead's slick faceplate and mean visor combo over that blank geewun accurate smile of Takara's.

What Takara doesn't get is that Generations was never meant to be a faithful recreation of whatever character is being done. They want everything to be super duper uber accurate to an underfunded 80's cartoon animated by fucking Sunbow when the designs would look bland as all hell doing so. And not to mention, with figures like Blurr they pull the paint equivalent of greeble. Do we really need 10 different shades of grey, white and blue just for one figure?

>>5864818
They're not updates. They're reinterpretations. Like how John Coltrane's My Favorite Things sounds absolutely nothing like the original but yet uses the same chord progression and melody.
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>>5864822
>They're reinterpretations
I can somewhat agree with that.
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>>5864822
>TR has so far been fairly G1, with the exceptions being some of the head designs and previously non-headmaster characters now being headmasters

Being a geewunner this bothered me until I realized (for the most part) they converted the power masters/target masters into headmasters with a few throw ins like a3 and sentinel just to push the comic link, therefore this does fit in with the generations aesthetic, and something we can learn to like.

>What Takara doesn't get is that Generations was never meant to be a faithful recreation of whatever character is being done. They want everything to be super duper uber accurate to an underfunded 80's cartoon animated by fucking Sunbow when the designs would look bland as all hell doing so. And not to mention, with figures like Blurr they pull the paint equivalent of greeble. Do we really need 10 different shades of grey, white and blue just for one figure?

You do realize they're catering to a different audience, yes?

The Japanese make our autist look harmless in comparison, they have less budget restrictions and KNOW adults are going to be buying what hasbro is marketing towards kids (who may or may not have a parent who may better know the characters), if anything takara wants to break free of the size class restrictions

>with figures like Blurr they pull the paint equivalent of greeble

This is the problem though, not with what takara is doing, but HASBRO is doing, it ends up being nothing more than a blue block without actual variance, I shit you not a marvel legends repaint of spiderman in venom colors (black and white) would demolish blurr because of the contrast.

Hasbro is using the g1 toy looks as an excuse to cut corners , granted, some look fine, but others suffer, it needed to be broken up, and it doesn't have to be to takara's extent (which is still a blue blob, but its an extremely light blue and a very dark blue over 2 very similar shades in which are show up in vehicle mode)
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>>5864836
Let me put it this way. How many cars do you see in real life that are made of multiple shades of blue and gray and white? Unless you or your neighbors have a thing for custom paint jobs on cars, I doubt you'll ever see one. Now tell me, how many cars are there that are one consistent and metallic shade of blue? While they might not all be in Blurr's shade, I can gurantee you that you'll find plenty.

The argument here is this: Hasbro's using a more modern and realistic aesthetic. Takara cater to an incredible outdated and painfully cheesy look that's 3 decades old. Sure, it might have contrast and variation, and that's cool and all, but does it actually look good? Or is it just an eyesore mishmash of colors that should stay in the past where it belongs?

I'm leaning towards the latter.
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>>5864843
And how many cars do you see that look like Blurr's space hover car mode?

Besides, the least Hasbro could have done is made the bits of his robot mode that don't show up in car mode a different colour. He's literally a mass of solid blue in robot mode. And it's not even paint- it's just hideous, cheap looking sparkly blue plastic.
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>>5864836
>Hasbro is using the g1 toy looks as an excuse to cut corners , granted, some look fine, but others suffer, it needed to be broken up, and it doesn't have to be to takara's extent

I agree.
>>5864843
>Hasbro's using a more modern and realistic aesthetic

Some of them like Scourge and Blurr are actually solid blobs of colours in their robot mode. Parts like Scourges lower chest and upper legs should still be painted in.
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>>5864843
>Let me put it this way. How many cars do you see in real life that are made of multiple shades of blue and gray and white?

Talking about blurr who's based on a fictional vehicle in the future right, not the best way to start an argument.

>The argument here is this: Hasbro's using a more modern and realistic aesthetic

Looks more cheap and toyish, literally

>Takara cater to an incredible outdated and painfully cheesy look that's 3 decades old.

...but they're using hasbro designed molds for the most part because even they know they look good, PMOP could of just been a slavish repaint if they wanted too.

The toys, MP or generations, are still modern interpretations, even generations blurr and takara's paint job worked fine, its the form that works and takara's paint works better for making it look something worthwhile rather than something that's kid safe, because the more, complicated paint jobs are the worse off they'll be when a kids ham hands them.

>Sure, it might have contrast and variation, and that's cool and all, but does it actually look good? Or is it just an eyesore mishmash of colors that should stay in the past where it belong

Its called preference anon, as a kid I would of laughed at blurr because I was never a fan of that blabbering idiot, but as I grown up I realized I liked the design, the lack of paint hurts and I would only have the hasbro version for car mode.

Its preference in the end, you might find the appeal of injected gloss glittery plastic that's very toy like, I myself prefer something with some variance, I don't want it to be just the blue guy, or the red guy (which is why, despite his abilities, I hate the dare devil design, maybe some red pants would help but traditionally he's just all red).

I'm afraid no one wins this argument, for preferences of our own makes the others preference invalid.

There is no right or wrong answer (unless takara added 15 shades of blue, or made him rainbow colored)
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>>5864862
>how many cars do you see that look like blurr's altmode?
f zero nigga
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>>5864875
Other guy was talking about real life, but hay, I wouldn't mind 30 other transforming blurrs as long as c.falcon stays the fuck out of it so someone else can win
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can this pose?

Every shot I've seen is always like this.

Gonna track him down tomorrow, I feel like lion but not if its lyin
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>>5864862
But that's besides the point. We're talking about the colors, not the actual car design itself.

Could you honestly tell me what this obsession with robots having different colors is? It realistically speaking serves no purpose. It's perfectly logical for a character like Blurr, who has never shown any care about his aesthetics, to both have Takara's color scheme or Hasbro's in robot mode.

And like I said, Takara's paint job looks like paint for the sake of paint. It's unecessary and overdone, and just looks ugly.

And the plastic actually looks quite nice in hand, the same way that Takara's heads are not mushy shite in hand. It's just the right shade of teal and it looks absolutely gorgeous.

>>5864865
See the argument on paint greebles.

And I don't own Scourge (yet) so I can't commet on him.

>>5864867
Again, this is about the colors, not the design of the vehicle itself. Stop trying to derail the topic.

It doesn't. It's exactly what I'd expect a sleek car from 2050 to look like, especially since minimalism in visual design has taken over like wildfire the same way minimalism in classical music took over like wildfire after Steve Reich.

So your argument is that more complicated paint jobs are better because... reasons?
Time to let Warbotron off the hook with their greebles then.

Of course it's just preference in the end. There is no such thing as objective taste. The whole point of this, rather, is to justify preferences. I like futuristic and minimalist designs on Blurr. Rather than a paintjob that looks like what a person from the 80s would think cars in 2011 look like.
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>>5864879
So does this look good to you?
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>>5864881
Not him, but at least it's not all the same shade of red.
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>>5864881
God no. Why would it?
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>>5864878
I thought the top of front legs would be able to swivel, but it seems like they can just rotate fowards and backwards. I don't think the hind legs would look good doing anything other than standing there.

If you get him, please post pics, if you can.
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>>5864879
Remember, these are toys, kids and collectors appreciate things being broken up ever so slightly.

Would you like it better if blurr's body was all one solid color but the robot mode least had a more predominate tone, because the hasbro one has AS MANY tones, just printed differently and in a more obvious contrast.

Pic related here works better than blurr, most cars, modern or not, are yes, one color.

But the robot also being in one?

Or you know what, why doesn't we actually use some paint on blurr, if the whole body were in a solid blue PAINT rather than the plastic used, and REMOVE the other tone no one notices...how would you feel about that one?
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>>5864881
It looks like the most popular toy ever made in different colors. Yes.
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>>5864867
>I hate the dare devil design, maybe some red pants would help but traditionally he's just all red

What if he had large areas of black? like he does in the artwork?
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>>5864397
I don't know about Japan in general, but the people behind the show love all aspects of Transformers. Throughout that episode there were plenty of references to different eras, and the girls get upgrades by the end that reflect almost every faction leader in the franchise.

Heck, some of the artists went on to make art based on FunPub shit for that art book from last year.
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>>5864884
>>5864893
Think I've found something.

See this works better than hasbro blur because of the color variance, its still one color...but varied, and aside from the camo stripe its not even that complicated, that and in robot mode it helps pop.

I honestly think the only robot that works in one solid color are the ones in silver because the details pop, if blurr was in silver, then yes take my wallet, but plastic anything else, no
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>>5864879
>But that's besides the point. We're talking about the colors, not the actual car design itself.
You're missing my point. There's no point complaining about unrealistic colours on a car that isn't realistic to begin with. It's like complaining about a strawberry not tasting of banana.
>Could you honestly tell me what this obsession with robots having different colors is? It realistically speaking serves no purpose.
Colour breakup, visual interest, preventing him from looking like he's wearing a blue onesie etc. Having him be all one colour with almost no breakup at all makes him aesthetically boring.
>See the argument on paint greebles.
>Paint greebles
Jesus Dashboard, not this buzzword again.

If he were covered in G1-style multicoloured tech detail stickers I could understand, but Legends Blurr? He's got 2 shades of blue and a bit of white and that's it. Not exactly a riot of colour.
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>>5864898
That works only due to artist design, I admit this, of course that's just shadowing and I don't see it as color variance.

Especially in a physical form unless its a shaded statue
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Can somebody explain what paint greebles are?
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>>5864907
Paint details that serve no purpose.
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>>5864907
Paint greebles? No clue, but greebles are like molded tech detailing
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>>5864910
The only thing that fits that description on him, I'd say, are the blue on the feet connectors.
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>>5864892
I don't understand what you're saying
>Would you like it better if blurr's body was all one solid color but the robot mode least had a more predominate tone
>but the robot mode least had a more predominate tone
The fuck? That makes the entire paragraph gibberish.

And Optimus Prime needs at least two colors (red and blue) because that's his distinctive style. If they were to release a toy of prime entirely in red, or blue, it wouldn't fit the character at all, and would look terrible.

Blurr on the other hand does not really have a "trademark color scheme" save from blue in varying shades. That's why TR Blurr can get away with primarily being in one shade of blue, it cuts the filler and gets straight to the point with a minimalist style, rather than being senseless and all over the place. Whereas Optimus Prime could never get away with the same thing.

>>5864903
We're talking about colors, not designs. The color scheme is realistic for a car. It doesn't actually matter what the actual car looks like because that's completely irrelevant.

I said realistically. That is from a design perspective, and a very biased one at it.

But that's the point with Generations: It's supposed to be a modern design. That's where the minimalist style comes into play. This is like the equivalent of complaning that 90's alternative rock does not have the same excessive and glamorous production as 80's glam and hair metal. That's the style that it's aiming for. You can call it "aesthetically boring" but that's just you not being able to appreciate minimalism as a design style.

So I'm incorrect? Takara's Blurr doesn't have an excessive amount of useless paint that realistically and design wise looks dated and terrible?

But that's already unnecessary. Not only does the color placement seem arbitrary, it doesn't enhance or pick out any details. If it was like a dash of silver on mechanical sculpting to make that stand out it would be perfectly fine. This is useless paint.
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>>5864910
I don't even understand this.

Look at the toy, ignore the colors, its covered in surface detail, lost to its molded plastic.

Panel line it, heh none of the 2 would do that, but adding color variance may help it become more noticeable.

But I wonder, anyone here a photoshop wizard?

Shop out the surface detail on>>5864918
and make him all flat, I want to see if colors alone can save blurr
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>>5864907
>>5864912
Greebles are criticized for being unnecessary extra detail that add nothing to the figure's design and make it look visually unpleasing. Paint greebles follow the same concept.
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>>5864923
Now you're adding distinct styles to the argument?

The fuck you doing, you can't give anyone special treatment, all optimus needs is a silver faceplate at best if that's your logic
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Got TR Galvatron in the mail today. He's pretty cool. Feels sturdy enough- wasn't sure cuz a lotta people were complaining about build quality. Love the cannon mode and even the starship mode.

Nucleon is super lackluster, helmet is weird, and cannon placement is weird, but nothing paint and mods can't fix.

Those shoulder assemblies were scary the first time I transformed the toy, though. Some mold flash came off so it sounded and felt like I was breaking something.
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>>5864928
How is that special treatment? The same appies for every transformer ever. Megatron needs silver (or grey) and black, Starscream needs red, blue, and grey, Jazz needs white with blue and black stripes. Different designs are subject to different design styles. You can't generalize one argument onto every design in existence
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>>5864791
That wasn't my intention. I'm just saying the guy who asked for a favor (however how small) didn't deserve it.
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>>5864923
>We're talking about colors, not designs. The color scheme is realistic for a car.
Are you actually retarded? You are missing the point COMPLETELY. There is NO POINT in wanting "realism" on a design that isn't realistic to begin with. You can't isolate design from the equation.
>But that's the point with Generations: It's supposed to be a modern design. That's where the minimalist style comes into play.
But it isn't "minimalistic". It's just cheap and dull. Besides, the actual sculptwork is anything BUT minimalistic. There's a tonne of sculpted detail on there, it's just not been picked out with paint. If he were all smooth, flat surfaces devoid of surface detail you might have a point. Might.
>You can call it "aesthetically boring" but that's just you not being able to appreciate minimalism as a design style.
>Y-YOU JUST DON'T GET IT
>So I'm incorrect? Takara's Blurr doesn't have an excessive amount of useless paint that realistically and design wise looks dated and terrible?
Yes, you are completely incorrect.
>But that's already unnecessary. Not only does the color placement seem arbitrary,
That's what G1 Blurr is supposed to look like.
>it doesn't enhance or pick out any details.
Did you actually look at the picture? No, seriously. Do you have-

Wait a minute. I'm arguing with Subjectanon again aren't I.
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>>5864938
>are you retarded for focusing on the argument rather than sidetracking?
Probably not.

The majority of him is smooth flat surfaces. The mechanical detailing primarily is in his seat area, which neither Hasbro nor Takara pick out. They instead either opt for full minimalism or paint greebles. If Hasbro had bothered to use the silver paint on the gun to paint the inside of Blurr's chest the figure's paint scheme would be perfect.

And why am I incorrect? Elaborate. What design purpose does unnecessary blue and white give?

And this is not G1 Blurr. Sorry.

I have. Show me where on >>5864918 any details are picked out. The majority of Blurr is flat surfaces, and Takara didn't bother to paint the mechanical detailing on his abdomen either, rendering the entire paint scheme useless.

And who the fuck is subjectanon? I keep hearing about him but have no clue who you guys are talking about. Is he an actual person or just a strawman?
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Where do I plug on Nucleon so he can man Galvatron's cannon mode?
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>>5864946
On top of his legs while in cannon mode, there are 4 pegs near the "hole"
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>>5864946
Flip the piece with the 5mm port towards the back of the gun. That'll push the back up and reveal the cavity for seating
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>oh canada~

Some nifty tf art there, but isn't it a bit early to use this art?
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>>5864951
First official look at doublecross.
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>>5864951
It is, considering that Hasbro haven't even offically revealed Doublecross yet
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>>5864954
considering how quick wave 2 has shat out I can see wave 3 coming out this year.

What are we gonna have for christmas since we all have mindwipes pumping out?
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>>5864956
Fuck no, I want wave 3 to be delayed to feb next year so I can buy CW shit that I missed out on while completing Wave 2
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>>5864957
>CW shit
Kek.

Here in Australia only 2 chains keep any cw stuff and that's because they kept their prices up far too high, tru (despite similar pricing) and kmart here have cleared out most of their cw stuff.

Traveled by train for 2 hours just for a second blastoff and this was when the voyagers earlier this month started showing up.

What are you missing anyway, I can't imagine more than onslaughts beta's and the skylynx wave being left
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>>5864963
>>5864963
I stopped collecting right as T30 ended and only just came back so I basically missed out on the entire line. I managed to collect all of Bruticus' components and I've spotted all the remaining combiners I want online but I don't have the money to get that many figures just yet. So I'm going to be finishing them up as I slowly buy wave 2.
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>>5864966
I'd say keep going with bruticus if you can, BUT get the rest of the UW releases, if not paint its the characters you may know better, otherwise good luck trying local retail
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>>5864973
I'm already long done with Bruticus famalam.

Also, not a fan of the UW releases. I'm probably going Hasbro with the rest with the exception of Computicon
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>>5864980
Oh man, Computron's gonna be out in like a week. I'm pretty excited.
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>>5864956
>considering how quick wave 2

In Asia, the rest of the world is still waiting, we only just started getting wave 1.
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>>5864012
holy fuck I want
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>>5865007
Australia is part of Asia?
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>>5865068
Australasia (yes I spelt it wrong, its 2:30am!)

Sometimes its confused with europe, other times people think everything is trying to kill you.

The truth is we're fucked m8
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>>5864956
>I can see wave 3 coming out this year.

Wave 3 is coming out at the end of the year.

Wave 2 will start appearing in the US around September as planned. They only started appearing in the Pacific Rim around Early August/Late July because shipping time from factory to store is less while it takes over a month to ship from those factories to America.
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>>5865075
I think the distribution in Aus is tied to Asia somehow, some of the RiD stuff I buy say "Hasbro of Australia"
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>>5865080
Isn't that a bit fast? America didn't start seeing Wave 1 until late June, earlyl July. I expected to start seeing them in October/November.
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Fresh bread >>5865095
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>>5865082
I thought each wave was spaced three months apart? Is it four months? I guess I have to factor in land transport & distribution before arrival to retailers then.
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>>5864646
>only BW fans can hate Warden
Wrong.
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>>5864945
>And this is not G1 Blurr. Sorry.
The design clearly says otherwise.
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>>5865539
So Animated Blurr is also G1 Blurr?

...Well, they lool extremely alike, don't they? And I don't recall G1 blurr being a headmaster either.
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>>5865081
Woah, I suddenly want that
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