Transformers General - Combiners Wars Peace Again

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>make an unpainted prototype
>call it a final release

Why is this allowed?

>>5755608
Oh its painted, almost creme blue, dark blue on shins, THEN the plastic blue

Just comes out as 2 and ends up looking like shitty

>>5755621
I kind of like the Hasbro version as it looks more like the comics. I'm getting both Blurrs anyway and I'll just decide on hand. Maybe I'll keep both.

>having daily dreams about finding TR stuff in stores
>its also mixed in with old BW toys
Just release them already

>>5755608
Maybe they know people will be getting Brainstorm any way.

>>5755608

looks good in alt. mode though.

>>5755660
>Brainstorm
>SDCC exclusive
>Walgreens exclusive
Hasbro has become Mattycollector.

I can get a knock-off MP Prowl for around $40. What am I in for? Is it a good deal?

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Who /sword/ here?

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>>5755677
Here is its long box.

If anyone here gets one of these swords please post a pic of him smacking his own head with it

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>>5755608
There's something pleasing about the gray/white prototypes, it's like a marble statue.

>>5755677
>toysrus
Wait, what?

>>5755679
I want to see how it looks with that black Prime combiner with all the Trailbreaker limbs.

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>>5755688
Hong kong tru exclusive, buy fort max from them, and 100 lucky people will get it.

aka ass fucked scalpers going for shit loads

>>5755689
I'm curious too but ain't no way he'd be able to hold it, not without help.

By help I mean my own god damn hands

>>5755689

It's probably going to be too big for it to slot into a combiner, if it's sized for FortMax man. You could probably grip it with the PE hands though.

>>5755700
But would those hands be strong enough to hold it, its big and that's a fair bit of weight to that long sword.

I'd assume it'd drop out of any hand unless it had the tightest grip in the world and the arms wouldn't be able to support it, even if they did over time the arms would flop

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>>5755706

Well, I'd think the sword could be held by the PE hands, all the ones I own have very tight grips on anything that they can wrap around. The arm ratchets on the combiners themselves are likely solid enough, and I've got my combiner limbs hip balljoints futureshined so they could likely tolerate the weight.

>>5755729
>futureshined

I have actually started doing this to all my combiners before I put them together especially the arm guys. As much as I love them ball joints really suck for thighs and that non ratcheted knees also don't help but what can they do at a price point of $15 and I don't really want to pay $100 for a 3p since I'm not planning to get a mortgage just to get combiners.

>>5755670
I'd say got for it if you can get it cheaper.
The real MPs are not worth anything close to what they ask for and it's a KO anyways.

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>>5755593
Question: if there were to be an MP Lio Convoy, how the fuck do you replicate his lion mane on his shoulder? it looks like armor when he's a robot, but it looks like hair when he transforms into a lion.

>>5755740
>The real MPs are not worth anything close to what they ask for
sadly this is true. I'll always say that similarly priced robot toys from other companies are much better deals.

That said, i still dont like KOs. I want these toys to succeed, you know?

>>5755748
Do it like in the picture you just posted.

>>5755748
Maybe all the mane pieces flips around in the 2 modes. One side has hair mold the other side is smooth like metal.

>>5755750
>overpriced and overrated
>I want these toys to succeed, you know?
Why?

>>5755759
because i love transformers and i wanna see them do more characters

>>5755748
Also, the lion face changes from organic looking to robotic looking face. That seems harder to switch within the space allowed. Might have to swap them out.

>>5755763
Just support CHUG lines then.

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>>5755748
Probably focus more on his robot mode, like Takara do with MP Primal and Cheetor, so armor mane for lion altmode.

>>5755782
Is the Big Convoy mold worth it? He looks awesome and he's a motherfucking mammoth but he looks kinda fiddly. The Nemesis Prime version would be my preferred version but I hear it's crazy expensive.

>>5755736

I only really needed to futureshine some of my arm guys-Most have held the weight of things put into the arms with no problem. Just some whose ball tolerances were probably a bit off (lol mass produced figures) needed a tightening.

>>5755759

Because if they don't succeed at the prices they're at, they'll just drop MP figures altogether. You see, when a company shits something out at a price, no matter how retarded or unrealistic, if that thing doesn't sell because of the price, they never go "Oh, the price is too high, if we lower it to reasonable levels it will sell.".

No, they go "Oh, it's not selling. Obviously this isn't because it's a crap product or the price is too high, or both, it's because the market for it is obviously dead. Cancel our plans, time to shift focus". Which, sometimes, is the answer, some lines are just played out and dead. But more often than not, they aren't, and the actual issue is price/QC/overall quality, or some combination of the 3, and always the answer isn't to fix any problems, it's to just move on to something else, because fuck you, thats why.

>>5755787
I like it. Its very kibbly, but impressive display. Be careful though. The brown/gold plastic isn't the strongest.

>>5755802
They are luxury items after all.
There's not such a thing as high prices if we were to be honest. Just a lower bang-for-buck ratio.

>finally open Swindle
>stick him and Rook on Betatron
>it looks surprisingly okay

Looks like ol' Beta might actually get some limbs soon.

>>5755684
I just hate that flat gray Hasbro is so fond of. Would it kill them to use white instead?

>>5755787
If I remember right you can still easily get the Sonokong release for pretty good prices. Like modern Leader class prices.

>>5755670
I think you can get him for cheaper than that on ebay? But I'm not sure if they still go for 30 or not.

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>>5755593
post your favorite alt modes

mine is definitely Beast Wars II Galvatron, dragon mode.
This has to be the most absurd thing I've seen. and yes those are gatling gun knees

>>5755822
Agreed. A nice matte white or even matte grey would look so much nicer than that horrible semi-metallic grey they like to use.

>>5755842
RID Megatron/Gigatron's double-headed dragon is fucking awesome. That said my favourite might be BW Rampage's crab mode. I need a BW Rampage, shame complete ones are so expensive.

>>5755787
Hell yes. His transformation is way simpler than it looks, and pretty satisfying.

>>5755822
>>5755843
some plastics are more economic than others. I know that black plastic is cheaper than the colored ones. Maybe the same holds true for "games workshop gray" on Transformers?

>>5755844
>. I need a BW Rampage, shame complete ones are so expensive.

Seems like you missed out on ViennAnon.
He was here last year or the one before it. He's an anon in Vienna who found an old warehouse full of MISB 90s toys, and he made regular threads and he would sell it all for retail price. some of the few TFs he found were BW Depth Charge and Rampage, which i got

>>5755849
can it be metal if its pink?

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>>5755842
These guys stepped right out of a metal album cover.

>>5755854
Fucking Ben bent the front legs when he shouldn't have.

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>>5755842
This nigga and Animated Lockdown.

>>5755850
Yeah, I'm relative cancerous newfag and rarely go on BSTs because I'm a Britcuck. Also I'm a fucking slowpoke, and in any case I can't really afford to buy any more Transformers until we've moved house and have more space.

>Excuses excuses

Simply put, yeah. I missed out. I'm an idiot. Oh well, maybe one day.

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>>5755842
The full Armada Optimus/Jetfire/Overload vehicle mode is a doozy. I like the futuristic/ bulked up aesthetic of Armada's vehicles. Its also a neat homage to the StarConvoy/Sky Garry/ Grandus combo in RoC.

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>>5755871
Armada Blurr is also really cool

>>5755871
More optimus trailers should have treads.

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>>5755842
People rip on Optimal Optimus' alt modes, but this tank mode was so much fun. You could load up deluxes on it and just tear through Decepticons. Yes, the front is very obviously his arms, but the fist ram thing is one of my favorite aesthetics of it. He is literally punching through blockades.

>>5755894
it reminds me when Matt Teiger described FOC Prime's alt mode as a "fist on wheels"

>>5755809
That's a new apology. I didn't know you could ignore market signals if you classify your product/service as a luxury.

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>>5755842
These two goofballs.

>>5755871
Armada Optimus in general is one of my favorite molds. Wasn't it in the voting for a potential Masterpiece release but Star Saber got one instead? I would love a Masterpiece Armada Prime just to see how they would engineer a trailer that turns into actual legs for the super mode. If it came with sparkplug then that would just be a bonus.

>>5755905
Armada Prime was in second or third place behind Star Saber.

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>>5755905
He had 24% of the vote so maybe someday.

>>5755913
>Star Saber was 100x more popular than Fortress Maximus

>>5755901
>updated Scalpel with non-breakable legs never

>>5755919
>>5755913
>Primal, Ginrai, and Fort Max still got new toys before everyone else

>>5755913
how often do they hold a /pol/ like this?

>>5755928
MP vote doesn't affect the normal lines.

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>>5755932
>/pol/

>>5755938
sorry, force of habit

>>5755936
True but,
>"they made Star Saber and now those awful furry beasts and took slots away from MUH JAZZ AND CLIFFJUMPER"
>people actually believe this

>>5755905
>>5755913
I would kill for an MP Armada Prime. Question is, how would they do the trailer-legs? I guess they'd have to sacrifice the "base mode" for it, though that never appeared in the anime anyway AFAIK so eh. The cab robot should be a piece of cake to engineer.

If they did do him though I'd want a Nemesis Prime redeco, even if it didn't come with the trailer. An MP Laser Prime followed by a Scourge redeco would be great too.

>>5755850
I gazed upon my sealed BW Rampage just yesterday, remembering fondly the bro-ness of ViennAnon

May Primus always guide his way

>>5755932
Once so far for MPs. her's a few others for other things, like this one here for the Generations 2014 exclusive. Too bad Goshooter won, since they'll probably make a new version that's an actual Headmaster soon enough.

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>>5755913
>>5755928
>>Primal, Ginrai, and Fort Max still got new toys before everyone else
>Grand Convoy getting a homage in Optimus Maximus
>obligatory Lio Convoy redeco for every lion molds
>meanwhile Dai Atlas' newest toy is some bubblegum kit thing
>Big Convoy's first toy is the only toy he has

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>>5755956
Forgot my pic. Anyway, goshooter was one of the more dull options.

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>>5755965

>>5755969
>dat Silverbolt
Tough luck of the draw for Camshaft though.

>>5755969
So grimwing in to silverbolt was a legit idea? I remember when I first got mine from target that I felt like he could have easily been a silverbolt. That's awesome.

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I finally got around to picking up the combaticons and I was really surprised at how much more solid onslaught is as a torso than hot spot. I'm using the pictured fanmode for the hips and shoulders because it looks nice and he can actually support them quite well, but I'm a little worried it might be putting extra stress on them. The hips particularly basically have the weight of two deluxes and a voyager resting on two pin hinges. Has anyone had him like this for a while and can say if anything got loose?

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Is Skyquake worth getting? I like the orange minigun.

>>5755981
Yeah, he was a fun figure.

>>5755981
I mean if you like weapons that don't work really outside of cyberverse scale then go for it.

>>5755983
can he hold it in both hands?

>>5755969
What were your preferences, /co/?
>Silverbolt
>Alpha Trion
>Smokescreen
>Movie Drift
>Police Sunstreaker, provided it was as a different character
>Goshooter
>Overdrive
>The Fallen
>Downshift
>Camshaft
>>5755971
The Omnibots got a really tough break. They could've been popular if 2/3 of them hadn't had really bland and horrible color schemes.

>>5755913
>Galaxy Convoy only 7th place
Fuck this shit, man.
Fuck.
It.
Also
>YWN own a Masterpiece Ultra Mammoth

>>5755991
Silverbolt.

And police sunstreaker just because black and white is sexy.

>>5755969
>>5755991
Silverbolt and maybe Alpha Trion are the only ones that don't bore me to tears. al the others would be a pass even at retail.

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>>5755969
>dat silverbolt

>>5755898
No, you idiot.
I'm saying that they are not things that need to be affordable.

>>5755969
>Downshift from Wheeljack
Fuck, I never knew I wanted this. Kinda weird as Downshift was just Wheeljack anyway but still, awesome.
>Sunstreaker Police Type
I would have killed for that.
>Fallen from FoC Onslaught
That mold almost looks good in that deco. Almost.
>Silverbolt from Grimwing (I think)
HNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG-

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>>5755991
>>Police Sunstreaker, provided it was as a different character
IIRC cop Sunstreaker is the tentative name and it was supposed to be a different guy, with a lightbar retool.
So, Clampdown I guess?

>>5755969
>goshooter won over silverbolt, alpha trion and pseudo-clampdown
Why does japan have such shit taste?

>>5756085
Wasn't Go Shooter from Victory? IIRC the Japanese absolutely adored Victory so that might explain it.

>>5756113
nah. goshooter is masterforce

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>>5756067
>>5756079
Theres an easy cheap way to get him.

>just ordered Blaster and Powermaster Prime

Fuck it. Fuck everything.

>>5756152
>buying wave 1 toys for full price
>buying the inferior hollow powermaster prime instead of ginrai

good hasbrocuck.

>>5756157
I don't approve either, but Ginrai's going to be really expensive, since he's coming out in December.

>>5756157
Man, Takara fanboys are making collecting Transformers exhausting. They're the cheap fastfood of my collection, I don't want to be paying import prices for fuck's sake. I already buy SHS,SAS, and the occasional Macross/Chogokin thing.

>>5756060
Fortunately, your approval of my posts is also a luxury, so it's clearly because something's wrong with you and not a reflection of my posting.

>>5756157

I don't really have an attachment to Ginrai. Not enough to import one anyway.

>>5756161
And the constant runaround due to distribution and having to fix faulty toys right our of the box isn't exhausting?

>>5756167

That happens on both sides.

>>5756161

Just ignore the trolling, theres a reason why like all of the 4chan extensions gives you post hiding bro. Once thats in effect it doesn't matter what they do, it's wasted effort on their part trolling people who'll never even see their dumb shit. And buy what you want, I get a mix of stuff myself.

>>5756167
I just buy what I find, really. Hell, I've passed up Sky Lynx a few times. Not really trying to be a completionist.

>>5756079
Clampdown uses the Sideswipe mold originally, so I think they would have used the Sunstreaker head and a different name. Surveillance? Chainbolt?

>>5755994
To be fair, Cybertron mold is nearly perfect anyway. Bonus articulation would be nice, but eh.

>>5756162
u wat?

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>>5755991

Alpha Trion.

oh well at least he's getting a new toy this year.

>>5756258
Shame it's a piece of shit.

>>5755969
>Katakana says Camshaft
>romanization says Downshift
>Katakana says Downshift
>romanization says Camshaft
how do you even fuck this up

>>5756264
At least none of them are a Wheeljack called Cliffjumper.

>>5756264

Japanese don't care about English.

>>5756173
Lucky. I've only seen maybe 10% of the line in person. Turned out to be so much easier just to buy the box sets online.

Really the only ones I thought Takara dud better on where Wheeljack (white, painted details), Motormaster (not swirly grey), Lightspeed (better mold), and the Combaticons (painted hubcaps).

>>5756161
I'm not sure how people stay excited about Transformers when alongside every new reveal or release there's always fighting over which release is better.

>>5756377
Simpler collectors simply decide on their own which paintjob is better, or if one side has better limbs or locking mechanic than the other. No need to go autistic over owning or not owning the japanese version.

>>5756161
I'm always sort of baffled by people who want to pay Figma/Figurarts prices for the exact same molds as the US releases. Two or three extra paint apps are not worth double the price.

>>5756389
>double the price
Up until the Yen went nuts this past month or so, we were almost at price parity. Legends Arcee was $20 (vs $17), UW Superion/Menasor was $95 (vs $90), and HLJ had Magnus on sale for $35 (vs $45). And have you seen how TRU is pricing the MPs they hardly get van stick of? Even BBTS looks cheap, especially when you figure you get them 2 years earlier.

>>5756399
>van stick
Any stock, you fucking retarded phone.

>>5756389
Pretty much this>>5756399 and it doesn't help that Takara stared stepping up their game by actually altering things. Some UW releases had entirely new figures added (sure, Groove got released over here, but we didn't even know it would happen, and the same goes for UW Blast-Off), Devastators components got some extra articulation, some Headmasters got anime accurate heads, and Super Ginrai has significant changes compared to PM Optimus Prime.

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>>5756179
>Clampdown uses the Sideswipe mold originally,

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Can your hasbro Onslaught keep gliding?

>see ridminicons on sale
>Nice now i can build that energon shark
>All items are ratbat
>Get one

Fucking waste of money even at half off. Are the other minicons better?

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Choose your fruiticus

>>5756259
Oh you own it already?

>>5756553
I have beast box, slipstream, and the purple imp guy. Beast is the best, but the upcoming ones that are also weapons seem to be much better.

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Whoa hasbro rips off BMOG? Kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPluzUoUt8s&feature=share

While english reviews exist for the other titan masters like pm prime and other deluxes this is all we get for galvatron

18:46 is where he messes with the head, looks like you can't force the crown closer to the face

>>5756562
Goddamn i want beastbox. I also want velocirazor, but maybe add some white paint and make him overkill.

Also want the autobot dog. He'll be Rook Bolton's hound.

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>>5756553
Rainbow shark and Rainbow lion are not worth it imo.

Get something to use with Crazy bolt

>>5756558
>one is a clusterFOC
>the other has the wrong symbols

Easy choice.

>>5756571
So Crazybolt is compatible with the missiles?

>>5756569
Good luck. The first 2 waves are boring so please don't go by anything but if you like their looks. I got slip because I love samurai themes and got beast because he's a rad looking little gorilla. I got the imp guy to have one bad minicon and I regret it. Hes useless to me.

>>5756562
I was going to pass on them all but I picked a few up on a whim because I wanted the Shark and they're actually a lot of fun. The armor adds a lot of playability to them. Plus several of their armor pieces have 3mm handles so they can be used as weapons by other figures, like the swords on the scorpion's tail.

I still need Dragonus and Slipstream to be able to make the lion guy, but I'm really excited about the upcoming Target Master guys.

>>5756558
CW obviously but goddamn are those wrong symbols a disaster.

I'm going to have to buy shitty reprolabels now.

>>5756581
>The armor adds a lot of playability to them
Can not agree with you there. It only changes how they look. Adds nothing else.

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>>5756577
Anything that fits between those grippers. Divebomb does but ratbat doesn't. Disc minicons, you can rest them vertically on the lower jaw. The jaw is flexible enough to accommodate many random objects. Maybe even bakugan would work.

He has quite a powerful spring. There's an additional safety switch on the bottom like those b-daman toys.

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>>5756584
They don't do much for the flying pucks but they are nice effect parts for the weaponizers

>>5756584
Most of the armor are weapons and stuff though, like guns.

>>5756583

Too bad you won't be able to completely cover the Decepticon symbols and make it look good, due to the shape difference between the G1 and G2 symbols, and the spacing of the existing symbols.

Whomp whoooommmppp

>>5756568

Shame about the crown not being molded to fit flush enough against the head. Still, it's easily kept inside the chest so hopefully a 3P will crap out a crown that just slides over the headmaster, or just shits out an entirely new head you can just plug in.

Rest of the figure looks decent enough.

>>5756619
That make no difference though.

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So who's your favourite cannon mix'n'match combiner?

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>>5756646
can't wait to get UW Computron, these three are actually the only combiners I dipped on, the decepticons all have better 3p options

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still bummed that we didn't get a CW update for my man Road Caesar, even if it meant he'd get two random OCs or something it'd be nice to get him an update

>>5756646
>>5756648
Japanese Combiners are more fun than US Combiners.

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Speaking of combiners, anyone got any idea how the fuck this was pulled off, outside of extra parts?

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vortex aint that bad under the right light

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>>5756730

>>5756730
The new rotor and HFG gives me Movie Blackout vibes

>>5756565
Wasn't BMOG ripping something else off to begin with?
>mentioning this gets you banned on Allspark

>>5756588
When is this suave fucker coming out in the states?

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>Disproportionately long legs
>Easily dislocated, extending shoulders
It's like they were made for each other.

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>>5755842
Batmobiles...

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Target AU had this Starscream on sale for 40 bucks so picked one up.

Any kangaroos who wants one/another one might want to check their local Target.

>>5756748
>$40aud

Last I saw was 69, wtf

But I got the mp already and would of rather have the jetfire version, fucking scalpers beat me to it when reject shop had the last ones for $10

>>5756754
I keep hearing about super cheap stuff from the reject shop but every time i go there, there's nothing.

>>5756748
I live in the US and I've had Skywarps everywhere around here for ages. Last week for some reason every store had tons of Starscreams for some reason, and I finally got him.

I'm happy with him. Coronation Starscream is one of my least favorite Transformers I own and I didn't collect during Classics, so it's nice to finally have a set of G1 Seekers that are larger than Legends sized.

>>5756628
How the fuck do you nig something up that bad

>>5756762
My local store only ever had the one but they had shit loads of the power battlers for what $5 or 10 at the time?

Speaking of which big w had them for $5, some stores still have some if lucky if you're into that sorta thing

>>5756558
They got the symbols right on the FoC one, and on the other G2 CW combiners. What the fuck possessed them to fuck with the symbols on these?

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>>5756765
Years of experience.

>>5756768
I have no idea. The deco is perfect except for that.

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>>5756765
>>5756768
The foc version is guilty to an extent due to lack of chest plate thus missing that color set.

Which didn't have the symbol on the g1 toy, only the individual members did (which the cw version fucked up as well).

Really none of the newer ones do it right, the foc had engineering issues and lack of the chest plate homage which the cw fucked up the symbols, just not doing the faction symbol on the chest would of at least been accurate

>>5756772
I'm not autistic so I don't really care if it 100% matches the source as long as it's a reasonable take on things.

Adding the classic Decepticon symbols on a set that's supposed to homage the neon G2 series is just fucking stupid.

>>5756776
This, especially in s series where the symbols were correct on other sets.

>>5756777
I wonder how they managed to cock it up.

>>5756778
When you know people will buy your product anyway, you stop putting effort into things.

>>5756777
>>5756778
It has to be intentional. Maybe they're futureproofing so that they can release other G2 Bruticuses in the future and not have a previous one be definitive.

>>5756780
Except they LITERALLY put the correct symbols on the other two. This is the opposite of "not putting effort into things." They put more effort into getting it wrong.

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I'm still getting him as he is color accurate, its just the faction symbols.

While superion and menasor are accurate I just thought their deco was boring, I am curious as to how well they glow under blacklight

>>5756781
Bad theory.

>>5756791
prove me wrong cuckboi

What's with transformers that attracts the most autistic and reviled kinds of scumbags like walky and the typical botconfags? Not even trolling here. It's like the sonic fandom.

>>5756808
Idw probably, easy to get into and now is supporting pc culture.

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>>5756808

Transgender g1 toy accurate mp sanic when?

>>5756786
Buy a g2 repro and quit bitching, everyone in this hobby nowadays should know that most likely they will have to get stickers or a addon kit to finish a figure. Its just second nature.

>>5756816
I was just stating what I KNEW what was wrong, if I was that troubled I wouldn't of even touched it.

I also don't see the repro labels working looking at>>5756628

I will only buy or even use stickers if they were included or at $2, stickers only have so much of a life span.

Which makes me ask, water slide decals when?

>>5756818
Why do you want decals of a water slide?

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>>5756820
>Why do you want decals of a water slide?

Gah, should of expected this kinda response.

Ok, I build models in my spare time, waterslide decals are basically water activated, they slide off from their backing, onto their chosen placement, allowing perfect placement (as you can move them around until the water is gone) and seemless surface adhesion (stickers always pop, these just blend in).

That and a topcoat of clear paint prevents flake off, stickers come off even with a topcoat (though it can help until all of the adhesive backing is gone).

Infact just generic g2 symbols of any size and scale would be awesome, some more gundam homages with g2 symbols would work well when used correctly.

I wouldn't want rub transfers either as like temp tattoos they come off on touch all too easily

I mean shit it wouldn't hurt for water slides, some noob builders don't even bother with topcoats and just go straight for water to plastic and still looks better than stickers.

I guess it won't happen, but I can dream like the autist I am

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>>5756823
Found some

>$13

Not cheap but it'll work, being from china I bet they'll be tedious to work with

Alas, too small for bruticus

>>5756823
So do you put a topcoat down for the decals to stick to or do you put them straight down then put the topcoat over them?

>>5756807
Why get it right for the previous two and then fuck it up for bruticus? if they planned on selling a correct version in the future then why not make the same mistake for the previous two, in order to sell "correct" versions of them?

>>5756831
A smooth glossy surface works best, so topcoat of gloss FIRST, then decal, THEN another to seal it in, for safe results semi gloss or another full gloss for the final coat.

Only a retard uses rough matte textures first, can get away with no topcoats at all but longevity is crippled both in adhesion and preservation

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>>5756748

My Wal-Mart has practically nothing but this and a lone Ultra Magnus I returned 6 months ago because it was a defect.

>>5756825
Those look like Ocean dry transfers. They're actually really good.

>>5756838
>Ocean dry transfers

Damnit, well the ebay listing did say ocean decals, didn't mention what type, guessing you'd be correct.

Better than nothing in giving the combaticons correct symbols bar bruticus at least

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Dunno if anyone else has realized but you know how TR fortmax is missing the hip guns?

Turns out the round dots on his hips homage them, hence why they're colored as this on the takara version.

Clearly retooling metroplex into fortmax had limitations so they opted to homage them at least

>>5756842
Woo?

>>5756842

Is this the most disappointing figure ever?

>>5756149

I didn't know I wanted this until just now.

>>5756857
Not really. But maybe that's just me since I don't have plans to get it.

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>>5756857
It's certainly up there, so's this guy.

>>5756868
>Walgreens exclusive in America
And I thought Hasbro hated the UK.

>>5756873
Walgreens isn't Toys r' Us. They tend to have massive overstock of their exclusives.

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>>5756873
Atleast it'll look better as it's based on the g1 colours than the sdcc one's comic deco.

I doubt we Ukistanies will even get him, though I'd rather get him than that crap getaway repaint which we will get.

>>5756882
Kapow Toys have gotten the Walgreens ML exclusives, no reason to think they won't get this too.

>>5756891
Imports aren't domestic releases.

How will takara handle their brainstorm?

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>>5756895
Hopefully by making it actually look like him.

>>5756897
Only thing that's gonna such is the head.

I like the mouth plate, headmasters brainstorm doesn't work for me

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>>5756897
Deluxe Brainstorm looks like a much better toy than the Voyager. I have the Voyager and he sucks.

The only things wrong with the deluxe are the one tailfin rather than two, and the dark windscreen instead of an orange one on the vehicle. The robot mode on the deluxe is infinitely better.

I mean fucking compare >>5756868 to this piece of shit.

>>5756905
You're legit retarded if you think that.

>>5756910
Do your eyes not work? How can you think >>5756905 looks any good at all?

>>5756926
Because I own him and think he's great, I understand if the issues the stylisation, but that's really subjective. it's a great update unlike the deluxe who I'd still want to get if he checked off all these points: 1.isn't a crap retool 2. resembled the g1 design 3. able to hold his vehicle mode guns, as of current it fails at all of them.

>>5756893
True. An actual domestic retail release would be preferable, I'm just glad we'll at least have some means of getting Brainstorm that isn't ebay.

>>5756934
Agreed. Anyone know are there any other shops in the veign of Kapow? it's the only one I ever hear of.

>>5756937
bbts for america, premium collectables for australia, robot kingdom...

All work internationally but you know, exchange rates, note the aussie dollar is shit

>>5756932
Well I own him too and he's a gangly piece of shit.

I think it's pretty funny that you knock the Titans version for not looking like the G1 design when the robot mode for the Voyager literally looks nothing like the original at all. The inhuman Lanky Kong proportions with a tiny pinhead certainly doesn't help, and the heads are well known to be awful.

>>5756940
So your issue is proportions? Ah. Again that plays into stylisation, it's based on idw Brainstorm so what do you expect? he's gangly. I think the head's the right size. On the issue of the head not connecting properly that's a legit issue to take with it if you got the initial version, But I got the fixed version and I've had no problems with him.

>>5756940
I'm guessing you're waiting for the mp then

>>5756937
ID Toys and TFS-Express are the only others that come to mind.

>>5756944
That, the horrible looking shoulders, the ungainly elbows, the lack of a waist swivel, and the enormous clown feet.

>>5756948
I'm buying the one that actually looks good to replace the shitty one.

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my only gripe with Brainstorm is the loose wrist joints

>but you can fix them

I shouldn't have to fix toys right out of the goddamn box.

>>5756944
>>5756976
Oh yeah and no wrist articulation either.

Literally the only thing the Voyager has on the new one are the nose guns and the rear of the vehicle mode.

>>5756976
Like I said, that's mostly subjective. Wrist and waist swivel at the cost of everything else? no thank you.

>>5756986
Waist and swivel articulation at the cost of... everything else also being better?

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>>5756988
Sure. sure.

>>5756991

Are you one of those autists who gets buttblasted when a toy shares one or two of the same parts as another one? I recommend hitting up your local mental health clinic because autism is a serious problem.

Would you rather have a good toy that shares a transformation scheme with another one or a completely original toy that is utterly garbage?

>>5756994
>Would you rather have a good toy that shares a transformation scheme with another one or a completely original toy that is utterly garbage?

Of course, if that was what we were talking about.

>>5756823
You could print your own decals.
I buy a waterslide decal paper from a craftstore.
After printing the pattern, you spray on a layer of fixative or clearcoat. Cut out the pattern and use it.

>>5757031
Looks fun. But I really do not want another Optimus Prime if I can help it.

>>5757031
>blue bike
who's that?

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>>5757039
Override

What are some good tradtional style jetformers?

>>5757042
>tradtional style
elaborate

>>5757039
Override from Takara's Transformers Adventure line. Repaint of legends groove.

>>5757043
Cockpit chest, jet wings become robot wings, that kinda stuff.

>>5757046

This guy >>5755860 is pretty good. I quite like prime voyager Dreadwing/Skyquake, voyager Brainstorm.

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>>5757042
Legends class Starscream (or any of his three redecos) is good. Decent spread of articulation, solid modes, and there are enough weapon ports to have fun with.

It's a small figure, but it's a good one.

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>>5757034

Then get Takara's Ginrai. Ginrai is technically not Optimus Prime.

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>>5755842

I like the way you can press the gimmick button on his back and it turns his owl head in that creepy way that owls can do.

>>5757077
>prOWL
Oh, I get it.

>>5757077
>>5757081

not to mention Smokescreen inspired deco too.

>>5756980

They're not all like that, but I had to pick up a second one to get some parts to correct mine. I know the neck joint was extremely floppy on my first one as well. The quality control on mine is nearly perfect now.

Moot point since I'll be getting the deluxe version, since it will go with the other Headmasters as a set.

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>>5757067

If only they had balljoint knees or thigh swivels. Literally the only things about my set of them I don't like. They're basically perfect for what they are otherwise.

>>5757092

To add to this, unless you're a super laid-back collector, picking up a couple of toys to pick and choose parts is kind of a reality of Transformers collecting. With all the different types of parts connections, joints, and paint applications, there's just a ton of room for inconsistency in quality control.

>>5757067
>AWAKEN MY SEEKERS

>>5757077
Fuck, man. Those wings are beautifully colored. I shouldn't have got the white one. Damn it.

>>5756650
non scramble combiners are pretty cool IMO
>Magnaboss
>Rail Racer
>Road Caesar
>Landfill
>Landcross
>Safeguard
>Gokenzan

Too bad Gokenzan's actual toy looks iffy.

>Smyths Toys in the UK has Titans Return
>but none of the Smyths in the South

bloody northerners

>>5757147
>no on in the US has any TR shit at all

Fucks sake Hasbro, we're your target audience, why do all of these foriegners have this shit already?

>>5757148
Northerners are basically foreigners to me too
Though UK TRUs are getting the Titan Masters and the Leaders in a couple of weeks

>>5757148
Part of me is glad that other countries are getting a new line in a timely manner instead of having to sit on their thumbs while the US gets everything immediately. It's frustrating that we've still got nothing here, though.

>>5757170

Thats the perk of living in a first world country that is the home of the company that makes this shit. We should be getting it first. They should be putting in the effort to make sure our shelves are stocked long before anyone elses.

Instead they've got people selling Wave 2 shit swiped off the fucking assembly lines while we don't even have Wave 1 yet.

>>5755913
> Fortress Maximus MP

At what scale?

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>>5757179
>effort
>Hasbro

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>>5757185
>FortMax MP

I mean, sure, if you want a $400,000 chunk of plastic as big as your house, maybe.

>>5757179
>Instead they've got people selling Wave 2 shit swiped off the fucking assembly lines while we don't even have Wave 1 yet

Hasbro hong kong are having events where people are given the chance to try out the new line, a marketing thing they have.

I don't see any for sale, on ebay all I find are pre-orders from taiwan at insane prices

>>5757147
what about west-midlands, are we likely to have anything here?

I might make the drive to castle vale tomorrow if there's a chance

Despite all the shitty complaints, I gotta say that I really liked the CW line.

It's cool to have modern articulated combiners. It just sucks that they never made beast and monster groups but this is better than stealing crotches from unicrons.

>>5757197
>Fortress maximus than BECOMES your house.

Sign me up.

>>5757228
I have no doubt we'll get those eventually. The groundwork for combiners is there now, as well as proof that they will sell. CW/UW was a very ambitious line considering it crammed nearly all the g1 vehicle combiners in a year, plus some new additions, and repaints.

>>5757266
I really hope we get them and the remaining headmasters in futher generations lines.

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>>5757228

The only real complaint of the line was the repaints. Which were a necessity due to budget, and honestly, if you're just sticking with pure G1 combiners, isn't that bad. Between Menasor, Defensor, Superion, and Bruticus, you end up with 2 of most molds, which is hardly that bad. Even less, if you throw in UW Groove and UW Bruticus. Computron fucks up the ratios more if you're going with the CW though. It all depends on your "loadout" so to speak.

Still, CW was honestly the best line in 10+ years. You'd be retarded to say otherwise. We got fantastic updates of old as shit characters who haven't had a good toy EVER. We got them for good prices, and they perform their jobs well. On top of that, theres good 3P support for them in terms of extra customization options to boot.

AND we're getting G2 recolors of most/all of them.

>>5756684
No extra parts AFAIK.
Only good knowledge of where are all the pegs and slots.

>>5757272
We stil have well over a year to get the remaining headmasters. We didn't eve know of some things in CW until a few months before we got them. No idea why people think we've seen all of TR already.

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>>5757324
I know, but there's no way all of them will get proper representation, that's why I said remaining.

>>5757331
They already got Hardhead, Brainstorm, Chromedome, Highbrow, Fortress Maximus, Wierdwolf, Mindwipe, Skullcruncher. What more do you want?

>>5757336
Uh, the rest of them? that's why i'm saying I hope they release them in a future line.

>>5757339
They just did most of them. Since Apeface got one in the smaller scale, would expect Snapdragon as well. And you people voted for Trypticon instead of Scorponok.

>>5756868
I only hope this gets a Saber repaint/retool so I can have a Star Saber that doesn't hog all the space I don't have; also that I don't want to pay for the MP as of now, though most likely it will be a convention exclusive so at that point I'd rather just take the dive with the MP.

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>>5757345
Actually, they've done less than half of them, and the head only ones don't count for obvious reasons.

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>>5757347
IDW Star Saber or vanilla?

>>5757347
that'd be a letdown for most everyone other than you, so hopefully it doesn't happen.

>>5757353
Just Saber.
Star Saber is Saber with the armor.

>>5757355
Did people bought the fucking Orion Pax figure?

>>5757361
>Did people bought the fucking Orion Pax figure?

What?

>>5757351
Headmaster Juniors are 1988 product, not 1987. Might as well ask for Brave Maximus, Animated Sentinel Prime or Bulkhead and Sideways lol

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>>5757347
>>5757355
Alternatively, do Robotmaster revisit with modern engineering, but that's very unlikely and seems redundant with MP and CHUG.
Fuck, new Dai Atlas when?

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>>5757364
I don't see why the year they were made is relevant, but you seem a bit thick as you don't get what my point was.

>>5757363
Damn, I always fuck up the did's.
Yeah. The under-whelming, overly-heroic, and honestly pretty ugly Orion Pax we got like last year or two years ago?
I don't remember. It was shit anyways.

>>5757365
I'd love a new Dai Atlas, bonus points if it get repainted into Goryu from Might Gaine.

>>5757365
tr galvatron mold would make a good dai atlas
just swap the cannon for drill, retool the chest along with the headcrest, add some removable wings, and there you go

>>5757372
It really wouldn't.

>>5757368
>it was shit anyways
Weird. You seem to have not owned the figure you say you know what the figure was like.

And no. It was one of the better deluxes in thrilling 30. Sturdy, well articulated, well armed, and a good transformation.

>>5757374
Admittedly I had it for a really short time for being tiny as fuck so I barely remember what it came with.
It was like buying another 20 dollars commander. Fucking FOC Optimus.

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>>5757368
>>5757374
I get that it's just, like, your opinion man. And I can understand if you don't like the sort of workman's truck mode.

But calling it shit implies that nobody should like it because there are technical things wrong with it. Like it or not, it does what it's meant to do well enough.

>>5757383
>workman's truck mode
What kind of working truck has wings on the back?

>Titan Masters and Powermaster OP come to TRU next weekend

baseformers more like basedformers

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>>5757381
>Fucking FOC Optimus

I can understand someone saying FOC Optimus was shit, though. It was fucking tiny. The vehicle mode struck me as unintentionally cute (dare I say "darling"?)

But the robot mode had a real issue with the shoulders/head assembly not staying up, which meant he was constantly trying to put his head back down into his chest. You have to cram something into the cavity in his back to make the robot mode work properly.

Fuck me for buying the Ultra Magnus repaint as well. Oh well. He makes a good Lil' Brudder to CW Ultra Magnus.

>>5757390
The kind that never actually uses them, so they seemed to me more like panels for covering up equipment in the back.

>>5757390
One for an alien planet.

>>5757381
FoC prime is considerably less good. Apples and oranges between the 2.

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>>5757067
>>5757093

>>5757393
>Fuck me for buying the Ultra Magnus repaint as well
At least that one has an awesome combining sword.

>>5757393
And there's the stupid looking waist and the awkward proportions.
At least there will be a Turd Patty one but the harm is done already. Brabo Hasvro.

>>5757395
Those are wings.

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>>5757401
>Those are wings

Maybe they're just broken, so he couldn't have a flying vehicle mode, like Tracks.

>>5757396
So should I get FOC or WFC if I wanted an alt dimension Pax to get along with my 30 Pax?

>>5757401
>Those are wings.
Just because you think they look like wings does not mean they are. You're stupid if you don't realise they can be normal panels like on work trucks that we know.

>>5757408
Im not a fan of either toy, but WFC is the better of the 2. he just feels like he should be voyager.

>>5757408
WFC Optimus is really cool, in my opinion. I recommend getting that one, if the choice is among those three.

The lowrider classic truck styling on the vehicle mode is pleasing to me, so if you're into that...

That said, the engineering in the Pax figure is quite nice too. It's mostly about which one you like better.

Don't get FOC unless there's a very specific place in your collection for him.

>>5757408
WFC is a bit fiddly and the gun is kind of loose, but it's pretty good so get that one.

>>5757408
I don't know what you have in mind but avoid FOC at all costs.

>>5757411
Have you seen a pickup truck before?

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>>5757424
>Have you seen a pickup truck before?
I grew up in a farming town. So yes. I've seen many of all kinds of shapes and sizes.

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>>5757419
>>5757421
>>5757423
>>5757424
Cool.
Also I just found out Pax got retooled into Leo Prime for Botcon or TFCC or something.
Would be interesting if the other Primes were retooled into Primal and/or Big Convoy(Big Primal?) too.

>>5757428
Then how the fuck does that look even remotely similar to Orion Pax's altmode?

>>5757434
We are talking about the panels. The designers may have been influenced by an earth work truck as shown and the panels on pax are like the panels you see on the earth truck. Not wings.

>>5756905
Voyager Brainstorm is pretty much perfect for an IDW Brainstorm. IDW is why I like Brainstorm, so it works for me. I can see why a G1 fan wouldn't like him though.

>>5757433
>Leo Prime
everything was almost perfect EXCEPT for the fucking headsculpt, goddamn.
what's worse, that same headsculpt was used for the rest of orion pax retools that year.
fucking funpub.

>>5757433
Seeing this picture makes me want to get all three guys out of storage. Two to play with, and one to STOMP ON

>>5757433
I feel bad for passing up on WFC Optimus due to Optimus fatigue. I kind of want it, but I'm so far into other things I'm collecting and not really collecting TFs as much as I was back then that I don't think I have room for it in my collection.

>>5757483
>Optimus fatigue
Out of the ones you own which one is your favorite?

>>5757491
The MP-10 takes the prize, but thats almost cheating. If Laser Optimus had a redeco with G1 colors, he'd be No.2. As is, I'd probably rate TFP First Edition Optimus as No. 2. I don't see it get enough love; its a really cool and interesting transformation, fake windows aside, and not so stylized it won't fit in an IDW classics collection. Classics 06 Optimus is #3.

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>US reviews for TR Wave 1 rolled out when I wasn't paying attention

>>5757507
>TFP First Edition Optimus
That's for the moment the only Optimus I've needed, though I'd love to find Battle Blades and WFC for non-scalper prices. Also props to it for making the same transformation scheme that made DOTM garbage work

No interest at all in MP-10, though. I just can't get over how friendly and goofy it looks.

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>>5757528
>that optimus

>>5757528
Sentinel's orange looks too bright.

>>5757528
"We had gains once, all of us!"

Sorry, not good at the jokes.

>>5757548
It's almost like KO orange. All of it look like Ko colors.
Let's just hope they don't fuck up Astrotrain, I'm kinda hype for this mold.

>>5757553
>Let's just hope they don't fuck up Astrotrain
That train already left the station, my friend.

>>5756910
>>5756926
>stop liking what I don't like

>>5757557
Like, the colors on Astrotrain look alright so it's not so worrying.
Sentinel's are just the kind of colors that can look cheap under normal photo light, and it being half-hollow doesn't help.
TR might just be when KOs go back to being on the same page quality-wise with official releases like it happened with some of early BW.

>inb4 the figures look sturdy
Y-yeah, no.

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>>5757557
>toy colors
Nah, it's good.

>>5757567
My only complaint would be the weird Cybertronian train mode - that is, if it didn't look like a Metal Slug boss.

>>5757568
>Astrotrain or Sentinel Prime vs Turmoil

>MISSION ONE: START

>>5757528
wow, for some reason in my head that mold felt bigger, but seeing them side by side ruins that.

just the look of his build, all long legs and slender but built torso, makes me less hype for astrotrain

>>5757578
Anticipation always makes things seem better than they are.

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>>5757575
>TR Tidalwave will turn into this

Are these two in scale with each other in real life? Or is not-Megatron too small a tank compared to the jet?

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>>5757623
Fuuuuck

>>5757625
What's the box underneath? It looks like Megatron on the front?

>>5756857
People say that now but watch this guy skyrocket in price once the ten stores that get any go through their half case allotment.

>>5757567
>expecting that many paint apps from Hasbro
We'll be lucky if his eyes are colored in.

>>5757663
>ten stores
More like five.

>>5757668
>being this retarded

He's 90% unpainted white or purple plastic with some black paint details.

>>5757668
But not on the head master though. Got to save that nickel.

I heard you guys used something to tighten joints? What is it, and does it have any negative effects on the plastic?

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>>5757651

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>>5757685

No negative effects.

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>>5757685
This is what you want. It's an acrylic floor polish, and it's kinda like a clear paint. I don't think it affects plastic any more than acrylic paint does, if at all.

>>5757695
Thanks.

>>5757625
pretty sure its actually the other way around, tanks are decently small compared to F-15s

an F-15 eagle is about 64 feet long

making an assumption about Megs here, but a standard Japanese type 90 tank is about 30 feet long, not sure about height though

can't find any images of an f-15 and a tank side by side though

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New toy when?

Do any of the movie seekers have their torso crumple up like the first voyager did?

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>>5757719
>searching pics of tanks and jets
>google gives me animated blitzwing irl

thanks google...

>>5757728
According to funpub he's got an MP coming out

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>>5757733
alright so this is the best I got, just use the humans in the pics to get an idea of scale

F-15 eagle

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>>5757740
vs a japanese type 90 kyu-maru which seems like a likely candidate for Megatrons basis