Transformers general: 80s edition

>>5717857

Why can't that amount of detail and quality be the standard. Why is everything shit upon by the monster known as "budget", and the assholes who want it to be so low?

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Scorponock's gay.

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>>5717865
Higher quality animation, lower profit.

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>>5717865
cause they gotta make these cartoons quick, anon. detail aint as important

>>5717867
>Implying Trypticon is straight

keep believing that

>>5717867
When will the titian Trypticon be released?

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Anyone ordered a custom commission before? I am tempted to just pay the money for someone to finish off some projects for me, as I don't have the time (and I'm sure they are more skilled than me) but kind of paranoid about dealing with some random from a forum. Anyone have a strong reputation in the community? The only name I know is Cheetimus and Jin (and I think he's hated?)

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The next generation of minicons.

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>>5717876
He's straighter than metrosexualplex.

>>5717865
Good animators cost money.

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>>5717876
btw Akira Amemiya drew that, he's a total Transfag.
here he is kissing an autorooper, with a drawing of metroplex

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>>5717867
>>5717880
>>5717876
>YFW this is his voice actor.

>>5717865
Because it makes it that much harder to earn profits.
Read up on The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers
The show was produced by a non film/TV industry company (Gaylord studios) and they spared no expense getting TMS Entertainment (Company that animated Lupin the Third, Space Cobra and many more) and a full veteran VA cast, actual industry music developer team from both sides of the pond and actual science fiction authors as writers for the show

It aired primed time, was well revived and hails as a classic that even modern companies struggle to meet.
It only lasted one season.
Why?
Because the budget average out that each episode was about triple that of a stander cartoon show of the time and it had no merc/toy tie ins meaning any profits came from rantings and ratings alone. This is nothing new in the television industry but you have no reason to make a high quality production if you can get the same or even close to the same ratings at half the cost.

Also most shows are just selling merc and toys which really can hurt a shows quality because most 7 year olds are not going to be anymore suck in to a show with high quality animation vs substandard. They will either like the colors and shapes or not so again, it leavers little motivation to create high costing quality in the name of selling to kids.

>>5717933
>most 7 year olds are not going to be anymore suck in to a show with high quality animation vs substandard

this makes me appreciate good animation found in "cheap" shows like the G1 cartoon. Cause it might mean that an animator was just that passionate about his craft

>>5717924
>Maaaaaaa!

>>5717948
Likely he was or rather he was hoping that would be a foot in the door else where.
Over all 80's Western Animation in cartoons was the same as writing: it's the bottom feeder start to getting in the industry

>>5717924
i like that they got a tall actor to play a tall transformer

They should get Danny DeVito to voice Huffer or something

>>5717957
"Who the fuck is Huffer?"
-Danny DeVito

>>5717957
Or Gilbert Gottfried.

I hope the TR Galvatron is decent. Especially considering that we probably won't see an MP Galvatron ever.

>>5717957
DeVito and Joe Pesci should do Frenzy/Rumble.

>>5717967
's shit, mate. I'm sure you could wait for a mp.

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>>5717972

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>>5717948
All the TF shows have moments like that. Animated, too. Beast Wars has some great character animation, though I think a lot of people don't see that since it's harder to appreciate older CGI.

While he isn't an animator per se, and really mainly did the designs, Floro dery is an example of someone going above and beyond as far as his work went. His art is so detailed and thought out it was basically impossible to capture it in animation, but he painstakingly drew this stuff with such passion. he really had an idea for how to make Transformers a living universe.

Then Walky and his cronies, nerds who like to say ACKSHUALLY a lot, chased him away because he didn't know someone else also came up with an idea for a transforming planet independently. (Dery said he came up with Unicron on his own, which Walky claimed was impossible because there's an unreleased concept drawing for a Diaclone planet toy thsat never got made. So no one can have the same idea, apparently.) Because god forbid someone who worked on a show 20 years ago doesn't keep up with every little preproduction tidbit from a toy company that didn't even employ him.

>>5717967
Well most likely get a MP Galvatron after all of the Decepticons get MP after of course every Autobot.

>>5717974
What's shit about it? The main thing I noticed as being off in pics was his teeny tiny head.

>>5717967
So what's next after Primal?
Another '84 members like Jazz or Hound?
Cheetor?
Or Ginrai like that MP Star Saber designer wanted?

>>5717983
That'll be in like... 200 years time.

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the autobowl

>>5717988
Wasn't there a silhouette preview of Cheetor for the next MP?

>>5717990
pretty much

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>>5717988
>So what's next after Primal?
>Cheetor?

Cheetor.

>>5717988
>we're gonna get fucking MP CHEETOR before an MP Jazz

Scatman Crothers is probably spinning in his fucking grave.

>>5717988
well this >>5717993 >>5717996 and inferno were teased

>>5718000
It's nice to get some not G1 stuff though.

>>5718003
For some people that's heresy.

>>5718003

Not very excited for any BW stuff to be honest. Not that I dislike it, just theres a long list of shit I'd put before anything from BW.

That said, I'm probably going to pick up a Gorilla Prime just because they included the closed faceplate, assuming he doesn't turn out funky like Shockwave.

>>5717988
Cheetor is hinted at coming next, and we should be getting news on that in the next week or two. Inferno of course has a proto out and that'll probably get a release date soon. Takara wanted 2016 to be the year of MP beast wars, but I wonder if they can get Cheetor out by year's end. That said, technically BW's 20th anniversary in Japan is 2017, anyway.

Generally we where getting repaints in Q1/Q2of the year, then like 3 or 4 new molds in Q4. But this year changed that, with 3 new molds in the first quarter or so of the year, and just Primal at the end of the year so far. I'm guessing they might just be doing it so BW MPs come in Q3/4 and G1 MPs are Q1/2, with some bleed through. We also have Delta Magnus in August. So its all over the place. We may just get Cheetor in November or December, with G1 Inferno coming in January, with a Grapple remold coming in april or so(like Ironhide/ratchet). If they continue last year's pattern, we may also get one small car MP(like Hot Rod) and one large, maybe Decepticon MP(like Shockwave).

Micron Legend/Armada's anniverssary is also coming, and Armada Optimus did well in the MP choisepolls, so maybe we'll get that, too.

>>5717988
>Ginrai
With TR Powermaster Optimus coming this year, unlikely.

What if you have to buy each MP Reflectors by them self to make one camera when they are announced.

>>5718019
That'd need enough people to give a damn about owning him.

>>5718000
Cheetahs don't need to be licensed. Besides, I think Jazz is one of those ones they're saving as to not front-load the MPs. If they did all the popular G1 characters first, the second stringers would have less of a chance because people would feel content in just owning a small team of the most popular guys.

>>5718018
Powermaster Optimus looks cool, don't normally bother with the larger toys but I might get this one.
>>5718015
More new molds will be nice regardless. The more characters they get through the more likely Galvatron is.

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>>5717981
To be fair, that planet looks really similiar to Unicron, But I question the wikis bold claim that it influenced Unicron, do they have a source? I see no reason why Floro dery simply never seeing that design is such a impossibility.

>>5718048
>Besides, I think Jazz is one of those ones they're saving as to not front-load the MPs.

So instead of making money, they'd rather shit out literal "Who?" things like the newest Tracks remolds?

Sounds like a pretty shit strategy to me. Not giving people what they want isn't going to make other random shit sell.

>>5718062
If you don't see why they released Decepticon Tracks over Jazz, you're a idiot.

>>5718061
>do they have a source?

The "source" is that Dery is Hispanic and Walky is a white supremacist. He merely pretends to be an SJW because he believes it'll get him pussy, but his best friend is Jin Saotome.

>>5718062
Things like Tracks remolds are done to maximize profits on existing molds. They're not doing Tracks remolds over Jazz, because the budget for doing Jazz would be entirely different than slapping new heads and arms/thighs on a mold they already have worked on.


Basically its the same principal as why series like Marvel Legends or Black series will mix in some B/C-listers with some A-listers. The A-listers carry the weight. and yes, people will buy it just to bolster up their ranks, if the toy is good, that is. a good toy is a good toy.
This year is actually pretty interesting in that the entire year of non-exclusive MP releases except for Delta Magnus(who again, falls under the remold/redeco thing) are all major and popular characters.

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Last one of the day.

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>rrrrrrrrraymond...

>>5718061
It's more likely that both Dery and that takara designer had the same line of thinking when it came to their designs. Especially if Dery was designing it knowing it might be a toy later. If the planet had no ring, it would just look like a sphere. The ring helps sell the planet look more. How does the ring attack to the toy? the four posts, because it can't just float like it would if you where just designing it for animation. the similar curved arms/legs are just the nature of having to do something with the alt-mode parts.

If you ask two different people to design something with certain stipulations, you tend to get similarities.

>>5718095
Non-exclusive MPs?

Don't you think it's funny how all the Geewunners are just grumpy old guys? Like there's not a single Geewunner under the age of 30, I fucking guarantee you that. Nostalgia glasses are a powerful thing.

>>5718018
Mp ginrai is not needed, the TR variant does just fine as a neo/redux version.

Only reason why people want another ginrai is because wahh the cab doesn't transform.

>>5718114
Ramjet, Loud Pedal, and Anime colors Red alert are all exclusives this year.Otherwise, you have Hot rod, Ironhide, Ratchet, Shockwave, and Optimus Primal, all major characters. And then Delta Magnus who's there to help them break even on the Ultra Magnus mold.

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>>5717924
We sure have had some awesome voice actors over the years.

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>>5718141
Scott McNeil is an absolute madman and I wish he could somehow be on modern shows VA'd in America. He seems like he legitimately loves doing TF voices. He had a BW Megatron costume made just to do a commentary for a DVD(he didn't even voice Megatron)

Not really TF related, but my favorite scott McNeil story is one I herd on /co/ ages ago where he basically NTRed a lesbian by sleeping with her crush at a convention, and then said crush sent a picture of herself the morning after in bed wearing his hat and his con badge, which had a little chibi drawing of Rattrap.

>>5717892
Be careful. A lot of the creative figureheads of the TF fandom are also (unfortunately) scam artists.

>>5718122
>REEDUN!

You "it must be totally changed to make me happy" types are funny. Why not go latch into a totally new franchise instead of asking an existing one to conform to your special needs?

>>5718196
It's people like us that brought TF back from oblivion. How about you just deal with it and accept TF is moving on.

>>5717865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRmx9Rf7NVM
Planning, time, and having a team that actually cares about the project affects quality more than budget.
Not like you can have that coming from a studio that sees your robot cartoons as just a toy commercial they need to shit out weekly.

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>>5718097

I approve. Too bad I don't have any balls of yarn or gators.

>>5718196
Amen. I'm sick of faggots screaming for garbage like Pretenders because they're too stupid/lazy/poor to collect TMNT or HeMan instead.

>>5718208
>It's people like us that brought TF back from oblivion

I have a 13" wiener. See I can make wild claims and not back them up, too.

>>5718225

I'm sick of faggots like you crying because you left /pol/ and felt a need to shitpost the rest of the internet.

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CW Liger when?

>>5718232

When you buy a red and white Gundam marker.

>>5718228
Mine is 24"
My relatives from the whole country are always coming to watch together for some family time.

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>tfw no rooster Fracture

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>>5717892
>spindly frame
>manface

This is not how you do Crasher.

>>5717857
I'm hoping for a TR Voyager or Leader (not Titan) Scorpy.

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>>5717981
>Floro dery is an example of someone going above and beyond as far as his work went
i'm glad to see someone else who admires his work as much as I do

His character models for the cartoon have a simplistic charm to them that I've come to enjoy (Thanks to TF Devastation), but his normal drawings are very nice. His work is just so detailed and his colors are so psychedelic, you know?

Here's a Unicron drawn by Dery on his blog, he drew this in 2014

>>5717865
How do people make it through school, let alone live for any length of time in our society, without acquiring even a basic understanding of how business works?

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>>5718258
>His character models for the cartoon have a simplistic charm to them that I've come to enjoy (Thanks to TF Devastation)

I like how his model sheets have two drawings. One heavily detailed, mechanical version with a lot of cutaways and such, and a simplified version that made it to the final cartoon. It's like going "well, I want it like this, but I guess if you can't handle it this easy way is fine."

>>5718271
>sacrifice everything for a few more cents! It doesn't matter, they'll watch it anyway!

And you wonder why you got no paint on your toys.

>>5718248
I'd love to see a modern take on Crasher that's not a repaint. Fracture is not good enough. I want a bulky fem-crumplezone.

>>5718304
Was there less-shit looking control art like how Transformers had, or is the show version just what it was intended to be?

>>5718304
>fem-crumplezone.

That's still be a cool recolor. Maybe do a headswap, and recolor Cybertron Crumplezone in Crasher's colors.

>>5718190
What sort of things should be watched out for? Anyone in particular to avoid or any feedback to share?

>>5718357
Frenzyrumble, maidenjapan, and nonnef all seem to have a problem with not shipping their stuff out.

Any luck with fixing your figures, CW Prime anon?

>>5718097
You're the best, Maverick.

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I love the automorph on movie1 voyager starscream. It's so cool how the whole center of the plane crumples up into the shape of a giant dorito.

My KO MP Tracks came in today. Superb quality. The Backpack stays clipped on unlike the official, and the ratchets click better. Not to mention the thick hard rubber tires. Well worth $30 for anyone considering.

>>5718386
I've never had a problem keeping the backpack in place on my authentic Tracks. It's too solid of a connection if anything.

>>5718380
I have Skywarp and Ramjet, they're both amazing. I feel like the mold is also a stealth homage to G2 Dreadwing (head shape, proportions, SIX MISSILES) and G2 Smokescreen (alt mode)

>>5718228
Just like you shit up TransFormers? Kill yourself, you limp wristed closet case.

From /co/, what ever happened to the Transformers General there?

>>5718404
REEEEEEEEEEE *ahem* GEEEEEEWUN

>>5718404
Shut the fuck up, Jin. All you do is wipe your feces on an action figure and call it a custom. Stop pissing and moaning because Zoe Quinn left the kitchen.

>>5718406

They only stick around when there is something new-Comic, new episodes, movies, etc. There was a big one or two threads the past few days with the movie stuff.

/co/ moves REALLY damn fast, most people don't realize.

>>5718410
Best part is when you won't even buy BW or Pretenders or whatever because abloobloobloo $17 deluxe is rape....

Is this the most shit-posty thread on /toy/? Has it always been this bad?

>>5718406
Have you read Transformers #53? I know have a strong need for additional CW limbs...

>>5718403
Speaking of missiles, he's got serious hair-triggers on his guns. Accidently shot one off and had to dig around my room for it. Thank god I found it, though.

>>5718429

No, and no.

>>5718434

Thats why I never liked spring loaded or firing anything parts on toys. People complain shit like Headmasters when they cite lost parts, but a Headmaster won't shoot his fucking head across a room under a couch when a fly farts two rooms away.

>>5718462
What kind of fucking toys do you get to have that issue?
I've never had any problems with missiles and I've been collecting since BW.

>>5718460
Does this thread get heavily effected by the summer rush then?

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>>5718473

Nah, just sometimes retards take the bait because theres at least one dedicated troll.

Trolling+Autism=A nasty mix at times. Still better than some other boards though.

>>5718471
Ones with hair-triggers for missile firing, like movie starscream and generations roadbuster. Figures with guns that will fire off the missile if you barely touch it.

>>5718471

I've actually had a ton of toys in my life with hair trigger missile shit. Was really annoying. Nowadays I just remove any sort of firing part from a toy and store it away just because as a kid I kept getting pissed that they're launch themselves across the room under stuff or my idiot stepbrother would get ahold of'em and shit would never be found.

>>5718476
It often seems like just speaking low of Geewun is enough to make the thread explode.

>>5718476
Will G1 Starscream ever get a good figure?

>>5718484
Maybe I'm lucky.
I think the only one that gave me any issue was HTFD Tomahawk, but I hate that figure anyways.

>>5718489

The revoltech one was nice, but I don't think thats what you mean. Just gotta wait for a MP redo, or a 3P to not fuck it up.

>>5718492

I've had figures that would set themselves off, never knew how. Guess something was wrong with the spring.

>>5718386
does it fix his apparently shitty elbows? I feel not

>>5718499
>The revoltech one was nice
I wish, it was based on Pat Lee's horrible mutated designs. Despite the fact that IDW was already out by the time the Revoltechs came out

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>>5718499
>a third seeker mold

My wallet can't sustain more seeker variations anon

>>5717972
>Joe Pesci voicing a Transformer

i would cry tears of joy if that happened. One of my favorite actors.

He's not doing anything now, just get him on RID2015 or something. That show already has Sylvester Stallone's brother and some woman from House of Cards.

>>5718508

nb4 Joe Pesci Optimus VS Gilbert Gottfried Megatron.

And Bobcat Goldthwait (sp?) as Hotrod.

>>5718471
Laser Rod Optimus Prime has a gun on his trailer that does that.

>>5718506
Displays like these show that transfags have no standards.
Though all of Classics and Universe prove that even further.

>>5718531
That's some weak bait right there.

>>5718489

Maybe if you go turd party.

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>>5718258
I really love his environments - he really knows how to put together some cool looking structures.

>>5718546
Of course something that's not bait is going to be weak bait.
That mold is garbage and so was most of Classics.

>>5718584
And what isn't garbage?

>>5718476
> Still better than some other boards though.
You mean threads. Toy seems to have the most polarized generals where they are either real bros that know how to ignore bait/shitposting or they are as you put it retards and baiters ruining any chance at good discussion.

>>5718591
It depends some people like classic prime and some don't like it. The others where bad.

>>5718591
Cybertron, most of Beast Wars sans Beast Machines, most of the 07 movie line, the gimmickless parts of ROTF, DOTM, early Prime, early Generations, some of Thrilling 30.
Combiner Wars is garbage but entertaining garbage at least.

>>5718488
or highly really. Just saying "series ___ is good" is enough to send the thread a blaze and is a big reason you have TF generals where people get defensive if a person brings up non toy TF stuff because that's normally when it gets it nastiest here baring the rare "shit toy" (see >>5718531) but again that rarely has any weight and it's usually the same attention seeking retard who is trying to bait autist and sometimes I suspect the anon just argues with himself.

>>5718572
Agreed. It's no wonder that Cybertron mostly looked the same throughout continuities. Barring the movie one of course~

>>5718597

The people here can be real bros. Just sometimes the threads go full retard.

>>5718489
The generations legends is a head swivel away from being perfect. But it's also pretty small.

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>tfw trying to fix cracked windshield hinge on movie ironhide to no avail
Fuck me. I'm gonna have to buy a new one, aren't I?

>>5718488

you will respect yer elders, dagnabbit.

>Keep want to stop buying CW stuff
>I keep finding specials online

Damn it, this is too addicting. I'm almost tempted in getting another Onsluaght to create another franken combiner.

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>>5718620
>Just sometimes
every other time and it's likely the same other site TF form rejects that come here to bitch. You are right that some people can be fun here but we have some dedicated retards that want to pick fights and bitch for bitching sake on a r9k level. To make matters worse we don't have a bigger user count then other generals on toy yet we can burn through generals namely when to retards start throwing shit at each other. So I guess I'm just trying to say I wish those rejects would either leave or mature/get the stick out of their ass.

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>>5718622

More like a thigh swivel away. The head is forgiveable, but having no thigh swivel (or balljointed knees, whichever) makes them pretty static.

They're still great figures, just missing the last bit that would make them Shockwave-Tier.

>>5718638

We seem to top around 60-70 unique users. So theres a decent pool of people for a /toy/ thread focused on just one thing. TF's aren't like figma's or revo's or NECA's where you've got tons of properties under 1 toy line, TF is just TF's, we don't have (new anime moe girl of the month) to draw those extra randoms asking about X in.

>>5718601
I'll give Classics Mirage, Hound and Ravage; even if I don't like the formers' arms at all. Onslaught was an alright toy.
Classics OP has a really impressive robot mode and the vehicle mode looks pretty good, including the genius inclusion of the gun in vehicle mode as an exhaust, but that fucking arm kibble is inexcusable.

>>5718627
no

>>5718638

This never helps my bias that a lot of Transformer fans are NEETs/robots but that's from having friends that are still leaching off their dying parents and both are in their late 20s KVs that think the world is always out to get them

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>>5718647
We have 35 right now.
35 and the thread has stayed for the most part together.
>TF's aren't like figma's or revo's or NECA's where you've got tons of properties under 1 toy line
That's what I mean, other threads should be smoking us in post talk and talk back they have way more product in their generals to bounce around and yet these TF generals are constantly getting post when their have been no new toys out for months and every talking point has been exhausted.
It's almost like pic related is a some of the TFG users

I want to make it clear Im not against an active thread it just bothers me those days/nights when a thread goes from 5 to 200 post and most the posts are just two retards fighting over dumb shit that adds nothing to the topic.

>>5718664

Older threads usually get to around what I said. The last was at 86 uniques.

I guess the reason the other threads don't have as much discussion is probably because A: Less shitposting (though still a good amount) to burn through threads faster and rile up the retards dumb enough to respond, and B: Kawaii uguu anime figma/revo girls don't have 30+ years of multimedia bullshit and nostalgia going for them to help propel things along, or a ridiculously thriving 3rd party presence to provide even more stuff and options.

I mean shit, when we get actual info here on new stuff we burn through a thread in an hour as we pick everything apart and muse on stuff.

>>5718675
>A: Less shitposting (though still a good amount)
What other toy general has anywhere close to here?
I lurk most generals (don't really have the time in my life to discuses in them but I like reading them) and TFGs seem to always been the one that gets really stupid with little work. Yes it has happen to other generals but nothing ever as bad as here. The other threads don't have a constant spam of the same pic over and over like the TFGs due. The constant fights over manufacturer. The closest I ever saw was in December with the Star War generals where revos and black series were starting to relase the same movie heroes near the same time and even then in less than a months time it got cleared up and the shitposting bot stop working and stop happening. Where as her on TFG it doesn't stop unless a new shitpostable bait takes it's place.
>B: Kawaii uguu anime figma/revo girls don't have 30+ years of multimedia bullshit
most of them do. Star Wars, Marvel, GiJoe(now just 3.75 figures general), He-man, hell even many of Necas properties are long string 80s IPs that never really fade from the public. There have been a lot of constant generals with history just as rich as here and again, it's why I feel these TF generals are just cursed with a few retarded eggs that have no where else to go.
>a ridiculously thriving 3rd party presence to provide even more stuff and options
Note a point to be made because Third party has their own generals born from the awful shitposting when TFGs allowed it. 3rd party collectors got smart made their own thread and mirror close to TFGs user count with much less stupid going on.

>when we get actual info here on new stuff we burn through a thread in an hour as we pick everything apart and muse on stuff.
Again, that is fine and makes sense. Every thread does that but they even out and they don't try to turn it into a fight most of the time where here on TFG any fresh news seems to lead shitposting.

>>5718698

Well, then the only answer is to just report shitposting and hope the janitors take care of it and toss bans. All you can do unless you know whoever runs the site now.

>>5718709
I do that. I'm aware that's all I can do, but it's still interesting how strangely retarded this general is to the others. Maybe people here by majority don't do what you shared well enough or perhaps we are just cursed with two time free dummies that just argue and it makes the whole thread look bad.
All the same it's just strange that Transformers attract this and say Bionicle doesn't.

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Who else would pay good money for MP Omnibots?

Overdrive would be rad as fuck.

>>5718718
Bionicle's fanbase is relatively well adjusted humans that have understanding of engineering and world-building while Transformers are a mess.

>>5718721
I'd buy camshaft just for the irony of his name.

>>5718232
This guy will look great with Exhaust and Loud Pedal.

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>>5718733

I honestly think it's just one or two trolls at this point responding to themselves.

>>5718815
I am 100% for sure thats whats going on.

>>5717924
I can only hear him as Lobo, so him as a new version of Death's Head or Lockdown would be cool.
As for my picks:
Jack Black as Swerve
Charlie Day as Blur
Mike Judge as Runamuck, Runabout, Beachcomber, KUP, and Hound
Michael Ironside as Tarn
Ron Perlman as Overlord

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>>5718833
>Ron Perlman as Overlord

He'd be good, but you know who else would be?

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I don't reply to or read most posts in these threads anymore unless they contain a picture or are responding to a post that contains a picture because the shit-posting is so god-damn high.

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>>5718837

It's a shame because a lot of the current artwork for TF stuff is really nice.

ordered Masterpiece MP-30 Ratchet from Amiami as it was cheap as fuck, as well as a couple more things. It's my first time buying from them, but now that I paid rent I don't wanna dig through my last resort money.

If they confirmed my order by email, but I didn't pay yet (paypal is slow to process bank transfers), can I just not pay and wait until "payment due" date, and that'll cancel my order?

>>5718187
TJ, what are you doing?

>>5718858
Just pay for your order and let it be a lesson not to impulse buy.

>>5718875
but anon it was 30 bucks off. I still want it, I just saw it on ebay for even cheaper

>>5718858
Just pay for the order, replace the money from your next paycheck.

Also, why do idiots think it's okay to simply not just pay their orders if they don't want to pay for them? Just contact them.

>>5718506
And yet no official deluxe classics Sunstorm.

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>>5718878
Or Clorox and Purpledrank

>Ok, I'll finally get to start collecting soon because payday is next Friday, so let's scope out some Combiner Wars figures! The Defensor and Superion sets look breddy dope, so let's find those teams!

>BBTS doesn't sell the teams as a set; only thing available for me is G2 Supes and good lord is the color scheme a fucking eyesore

>TF Source has Defensor set sold out and has no way to get either the AB-Supes team or the G1 Supes with Quickslinger as a set

>Fucking Robot Kingdom wants my fucking scalp; good lord look at those prices; also NO TEAM SETS

>Buying direct from Hasbro would leave me without crucial teamates such as Skydive, Rook, Hot Shot, Firefly, and AB

The suffering is real.

>>5718894
>BBTS doesn't sell the teams as a set; only thing available for me is G2 Supes and good lord is the color scheme a fucking eyesore

Pleb.

>>5718894

Look up Unite Warriors man. Full sets, in cartoon deco.

Which is a plus for some and a minus for others.

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>>5718894
>get G2 Superion
>get the inevitable PE upgrade set
>paint Slingshot's corresponding combiner hand gold
>??????
>THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RE—profit

>>5718894
I feel you, scalping is on crazy levels with this line, most places still have the UW sets tho, tfsource has them all bbts has menasaur and defensor

Also ebay, it may seem expensive as a solid purchase but buying them all individually can end up being higher, especially with special ones like quickslinger, groove etc

Side note, fuck you and your taste, my G2 superion is a boss

>>5718962

Still wondering if in 5 years he'll crumble to dust. GPS is a constant shadow of doom hanging over any even slightly gold colored figure.

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>>5718964

Yeah, you know somethings fucked when a JPN import set with (sometimes) better colors/paint apps is cheaper than just buying the "normal" sets.

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>>5718966
Try buying a protoform Starscream to test it.
They seem to have fixed it since there aren't many known cases of that figure crumbling though it uses gold plastic for the whole thing.

>>5718981

Looks like Streetwise took tips from Turmoil on what sort of paintjob he should get.

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>>5719011

That makes me sad.

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>>5719011
damn ebay scalper wants 40$ on a buy now for him, but opening bid is 15$ so might get him cheap

>>5719015

Speaking as a fa/tg/uy, this is an abortion of painting.

>>5719011
>>5719015
god that painnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt

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>>5719013
I didn't think Steeljaw could look any sadder

>>5718141
>>5718187
My favorite cast will always be for Animated.

>>5719011
>>5719015
Isn't this the kind of thing people have airbrushes for?

>>5719011
Not a bad idea, but a terrible execution

>>5719055

That describes a ton of these. Alright idea, pure shit execution.

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>>5717867
Gotta buy a scorponok then.

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>>5719011
That's awful.

>>5718078
Dery is actually Phillipino.
Walky couldn't stand the fact that a Phillipino has contributed and influenced transformers more than a white guy like him so he went on a smear campaign belittling Dery's talent and work. He even made sock puppet accounts pretending to be Dery to disparage transformers and fans.

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>>5719030
Them getting Weird Al to voice Wreck-Gar was fucking amazing.

>>5719068

Not the first time Weird Al's been in something TF related. Kind of cool they got him for Wreck-Gar though.

>>5719075

First time it was up to him though. He had nothing to do with dare to be stupid being in the TF movie. He was a great wreck-gar though.

So much about TF:animated was well thought out and produced

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>>5719065
I've never heard this before and was under the impression they were both assholes.

>>5718516
>That botcon script reading where animated siren was voiced as bobcat goldthwaite
This is now how I imagine Siren's voice to be in all G1 fiction

>>5718858
Ok anon, its 30% off at 7,500yen, at hlj its 8,000.

Its not as cheap as you think considering the postage, I'm waiting on hlj's sale to include it.

As for what happened to you just send them an email, I made some bs excuse about life circumstances changing and they let me cancel the order (I just didn't outright want the item thanks to reviews), but don't do it again, infact be more wise when ordering through them.

Otherwise just pay it and learn from your 2 mistakes, you make a bad impression setting up and order than crying about it as a new member

>>5718606
So you're just one of those colossal REEDUN faggots? It's like you're not even trying anymore.

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>>5718721
I'd go for new classics versions of them, it'd be cool if the weapons flipped out but I'd forego that if it messed with articulation.

>>5718894
>I waited a year and a half and now I can't find everything I want for cheap. Who could have possibly forseen this?!

>>5719217
>Anyone who likes anything other than MUH GEEWUN is a "REEDUN faggot"

McFucking kill yourself.

>>5718833

Charlie Day I honestly see as Swerve.

Ironside is more of an Impactor voice IMO. Tarn has to be Keith David.

Overlord is either Ron Perlman or Paul Dobson.

JK Simmons is Ultra Magnus, John DiMaggio is Wheeljack, Keith Silverstein is Barricade and I have the crazy ass idea of casting Garry Chalk as Quake (Targetmaster) in his Metalhead voice from GI Joe.

>>5719132

Well technically it was Jon Bailey (Jon3pt0...a.k.a the Honest Trailers guy) but he was doing an impression of Bobcat and it works, his voice is perfectly loud for a dude like Siren.

I wouldn't mind Bobcat voicing him for reals.

also remember Hosehead was Canadian.

>>5719281
>Tarn as Keith David and not Idris Elba

>>5719338
Fuck off, he's shit as Shere Khan, if tarn had that london urbanite accent, he'd be unable to be taken seriously.

>>5718650

>no

Why though?

>>5719343
He is taken seriously because he is a big guy that wears a mask, not because of his dialect.

>>5719373
He should have a voice that reflects that, not one that is borderline cockney.

Just because you have a hard one for theactor doesn't mean he's the best one for the role.

>>5719343
>taking Tarn seriously
>the guy who fostered an un-Decepticon kind of brotherly love
>the guy who micro manages his team to hell like a retail store manager
>the guy who became so buttflustered by Overlord he overreacted and tore off Kaon's head
>ever taking Tarn seriously
The guy is edgemaster gordita crunch supreme because if he wasn't no one in universe would take him seriously ever, like Overlord doesn't take him seriously because Overlord sees through that whole facade.

>>5719338

Idris Elba wouldn't be a bad choice either.

I mostly use David since Alex Milne does and to me it works.

>>5719075
Yeah but that's why they got him for wreck gar.

I just love how 2 of the Bots were Brooklyn and Broadway from Gargoyles.

I'm the complete Allspark Almanac they have an ad for a fake video game (starring snake eyes) that has Hudson as a playable character.

>TFW posters insist that GEEWUNERS don't really exist and they're just strawmen created by by G1-haters

haha, well meme'd

>>5719457
found the geewuner

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Remember the hamfisted moron from yesterday who destroyed his own prized possessions through impatience and thoughtlessness?

Turns out there is a god for fools and children - and it's called 'Perfect Effect'. Domo Arigato, mr.Roboto.

>>5719068

...Why? Al is a great guy. It's not amazing, it was a good idea to ask him though.

>>5719471
Wasn't all the "damage" all in the hips?

Guessing the new hip helps because I often forget its more than hands and feet.

About about the other prime?

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For a remold of Ultra Magnus
Why does the new prime look so bad?

>>5718833
>>5719281
I don't know who the voice actor is, but Mass Effect Thane's voice would be my pick for Cyclonus.
>>5719343
Tarn's super power is weaponized oration though.

>>5719482
Solid red arms and boring chest paint apps
Shins could use more details picked out in paint as well, but I think the other two are more important.

>>5719484
>Solid red arms
Don't forget they're hollow where's UM was not, also its grey inside showing how cheap it is.

>>5719482
For me the stupid shit on the chest and the two solid planks behind the arms wreck it. Why couldn't that crap go on the legs like the original figure?

>>5719483
Then get someone with a formal voice.

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>>5719477

I'll do the same thing: open the hips up again and remove the ratchets altogether. I wanted it for two reasons: for the legs, and to use it for this upgrade (although I doubt it will ever arrive). It's just a display piece.

I also bought Battlecore, and fortunately I didn't have occasion to destroy THAT (yet). So I do have one CW Optimus with functional hips...

>>5719496

Transformation purposes. The vehicle mode is pretty much a box.

I like it. I am waiting for the Takara version.

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>>5719387
>like Overlord doesn't take him seriously because Overlord sees through that whole facade.

That and it took all of 0.002 seconds for him to literally make Tarn eat his balls.

>>5719535
i don't read the comics but i gotta know what went down
what did overlord do??

>>5719474
It was a reference to that "Dare to be Stupid" song he did for the G1 movie. That song is associated with the Junkions, and one of the most recognized Junkions is Wreckgar.

So yea, having him voice Wreckgar was a pretty good callback to the movie.

That's what I loved about Animated, it paid homage to SO much of the franchise (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Bayverse, Armada, G2, etc) that it was pretty obvious the writers were huge Transformers fans themselves.

>>5719540

Showed up and quite literally t-bagged Tarn's tank mode with his tank mode right after that panel.

>>5719543

...Yes, I was aware that Weird Al had written 'Dare to be Stupid'.

Geesh.

>>5719543

Shame about the art style. Not that it was bad, I like the DCAU look, but it just really didn't fit Transformers at all.

>>5719543
or they just really understand feeding a fandom.
Beast Machines had a lot of references and call back with many on the team being fans of the 80s TV show but they really didn't think things through and just forced G1 references in there with little regard to how people would respond or even if it made sense to the plot.
Also Animated was made with Hasbro on a much personal level then even the G1 show.

>>5719545
Is that not cool to you?

>>5719540

He shew Tarn that he wasn't Black Shadow, basically.

>>5719545
Well since you knew that, why in the world are you surprised people liked the fact that he voiced an Animated Junkion?

>>5719548
>or they just really understand feeding a fandom.
...because they were actually fans themselves.

Many of the writers and artists have openly said they were big fans of the franchise as kids and were excited to be a part of the series.

>>5719558
The current TMNT show is the franchise equivlant of TFA and it's great.

Hell they even reference things outside of the franchise like ghostbusters, big trouble in little China, and Kaman rider.

I know TFA referenced at least GI Joe often.

>>5719498
No matter who Tarn is, I can easily see him faking a more posh accent to sound cultured (since he tries so hard to appear cultured) and when he loses his shit he would shift more into the 'London urbanite'.

>>5719483
>I don't know who the voice actor is, but Mass Effect Thane's voice would be my pick for Cyclonus.

Keythe Farley

>>5719549

Yes. Yes, it is.

>>5719557

I wasn't! I objected to the term 'amazed' since it denotes surprise, nay, astonishment, as if Al would not deign to do the voice.

>>5719565
>I wasn't! I objected to the term 'amazed' since it denotes surprise, nay, astonishment, as if Al would not deign to do the voice.
So you were really that confused over a simple mater of semantics?

>>5719563
I like that idea, I thought he was just picked because he's popular right now, but I like your reason for having him.

>>5719558
Not really.
Read up on it. Even the main artist said he became after working on TFA.
Hasbro just made sure they got passionate creators that would invest in the work
Also fans don't usually make good products. Look at the last 20+ years of the comic industry. The big two are housed with nothing but fans that grew up on Marvel and DC and quality has been horrid for those last 20 years.

>>5719584
>The big two are housed with nothing but fans that grew up on Marvel and DC and quality has been horrid for those last 20 years.

Thats the fault more of shitty writers than them being fans of what they're writing for. Now add being a shitty writer on top of influence and you see why Bendis, for example, is still writing for anyone instead of being broke off his ass and sucking cocks at a truckstop to make ends meet.

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>>5719586
Most fans are shitty writers. Sometimes you get pic related but even then they understood "what I think is awesome for the character" doesn't equal what's actually good for the character. Most big fans make shitty products about what they are fans of. Again, getting passionate story creators makes better shows then getting fans on it. Beast Wars team nobody baring Hasbro had any history or attachment to Transformers. Same with Transformers Animated. The team that made those horrid Movie concepts? Huge fans, some with the writers, the animators the story boarders. I think Bay and the main cast were the only not fans/grown up on Transformers. Beast Machines team on both season were people that grew up and enjoyed G1 cartoon.
Im not saying 1 for 1 but for the vast majority of the time, fans are the last thing you want in creating new stories and adventures for your brand.

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>>5719606

>>5719606

The red eyes make it look horrifying holy shit.

>>5719606
So they remolded the tail, but couldn't be assed to remold the rat face?

>>5718835
Such a shame about Curry's current state though...
I wish he'd voice Overlord or Dio, he'd be perfect

>>5719095
Dery really had a bad experience working with transformers. Walky just kicked it up notches to highlight it. He really thought that Transformers was an all american production. This is why he's still snarky with takara stuff and people who prefers henkei. He also thought Dery was white. He really flipped his racist shit when he found out otherwise. He gets his kicks portraying Dery as some bigbad asshole to the fandom.

>>5719622

Wasn't he doing better since the stroke? And yeah, seriously, seeing him in the chair was really disheartening. He was always a great actor and has an amazing voice.

>>5719621
I wish I could read that article, but I have theories as to whats going on.

Easiest option is to avoid some sorta lawsuit toy wise, another is the additions could of been ripped off another toy, glued on then painted on, getting a pikachu face wouldn't be easy.

Finally, they still wanted it to be rattrap just retooled, course the drawn version would carry his face alot better (though its a little bulbous) but not so for the toy.

This was posted here long ago but did anyone translate what was going on?

>>5719606
I was right to hold off on my generation rattrap purchase after all.

>>5719617
I don't mind the eyes so much as those pink hands. Why the fuck didn't they just paint it yellow?

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>>5719623
>He really thought that Transformers was an all american production

Even though the toys were made in china, animated in japan (g1)?

Talk about delusional

>>5719570

I wasn't confused, I objected.

>>5719628

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tim-curry-relies-humor-recovering-stroke/story?id=31620996

>>5719630
What article? It's literally just a few lines saying "we're doing a Transformers/Pokemon crossover".

>>5719265

Fuck you; I was afraid of being scalped right out of the gate.

>>5718964

Still is an eyesore for me, man. Big dealbreaker in my book.

>>5719606
I would have prefered it to use the Generations Rattrap mold, even if it would need more retool (the head and tail but also the feet) but it would have looked way better, IMO.

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>>5719617
>>5719621
>>5719630
>>5719632
>>5719642

...You guys do realize this shit is YEARS old and was proven fake a long time ago...right?

>>5719095
>>5719635
So all this time on the Wiki when they were saying Floro's episodes were some of the more QUALITY ones, most of that is inflated due to fucking Willis? Like, I can accept an animation studio rushes things or isn't all that good, but as a flip myself that's just another strike against that faggot Willis.

>>5719651
Well you reminded me, thanks for the clarification

>>5719597
>Beast Machines team on both season were people that grew up and enjoyed G1 cartoon.
What? Beast Machines was another clean break that after first season that pissed off fanboys had some research done in the second season to toss some references into the past.

>>5719676
IIRC Didio or some other BM producers told the writers not to watch BW/G1.

>>5719482
Because hasbro didn't want to paint it beyond the bare minimum.

>>5719679
didio of dc or someone else?

>>5719693
Yes, that Didio. He was a producer on BM. Skir had wanted to watch BW beforehand but he was told not to.

>>5718981
I wonder what they'll do for the legends figure for G2 Defensor? I'm going to assume they won't use Hook and legends Groove, but who knows.

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>>5718981
>mfw orange Rook

>>5719659
Not sure about the episodes. those "crazy troll dery" stories were invented and hyped by willis until his circlejerk loser friends parroted it as truth. The bastards an admitted racist. He trying to act all sjw but he is still an arrogant racist fuck in his core.

>>5719623
Being a patriotic SJW makes no sense. Nothing about Walky seems to make sense.
What a fake ass nigga baka.

>>5719217
I'd count MP but I'm not too fond of its meme logline and prices.
Movie lines were perfectly capable of getting licenses for a lot of shit, mostly Chevrolet and GMC though, and they were pretty cheap even after adjusting to inflation.

>>5719368
You're too old to take fat transforming robots this seriously.
Go to your side of the room and don't attack people that don't like your preferred take on the franchise.

>>5719730
>Don't do any research on what you're making
>just shit it out, who cares, those fags will watch it anyway

Jesus Christ, Beast Machines was Bayformers before Bayformers.

>>5719986
The only issue I had with Beast Machines was Rhinox becoming a petty technosupremacist when he was so reasonable and badass that his will survived Megatron's brainwashing.
Maybe turning Rhinox against him was the plan all along since Megatron went full keikaku on Beast Machines but I haven't watched it in ages.

>>5720002
>technosupremacist
Kinda weird that the guy who liked smelling flowers would be the one that hated organics, plant included.

>>5720008
it's called character development :^)

>>5720009
>making characters do a complete 180 is now considered character development

I know you're trolling, but the sad thing is, is that tons of hack writers these days actually consider it development. The quality control for comics, shows, and movies these days is bottoming out hard.

>>5720009
The only ones who are actually developed are Cheetor and Primal.
Everyone else is either a wuss, the most sour fuck or "muh silverbolt"

>>5720011

are you sure it's

>these days

because yeah everything is mostly shit but the ratio of shit to not shit in media seems barely different than it's been for decades

maybe there's a bit more shit media out there because there's more getting made of everything but the amount of mainstream shit vs mainstream not shit isn't noticeably different, the trends in both just change.

>>5718386
>>5718386
Excessively relevant to my interests. Where doth one get one?

>>5720029

The ratio is different simply because now there is more media, and shit far outweighs good stuff.

>>5718078
>>5719065
>>5719095
>>5719623
>>5719635
>>5719659
>>5719891

its such a shame, I think Dery is a very talented individual. First time I saw his work was when I saw Pirates of the Dark Water as a kid.

His interviews are great too, here's one of my favorite bits:

>Interviewer: How excited are you for the new live-action Transformers film?

>Dery: Nothing excites me anymore other than the coming of the apocalypse

>>5720034

eBay, Amazon, probably.

>>5719024
Why not have the Warrior versions, and where is Quillfire?

>>5719651
It's a real scan but its a joke from the magazine

>>5719659
>So all this time on the Wiki when they were saying Floro's episodes were some of the more QUALITY ones, most of that is inflated due to fucking Willis?

That's silly, Dery didn't actually work on the animation of any episodes. His role was to provide character designs, both for the toy based character and for the original characters the script called for. Actual animation was done in studios he wasn't a part of.

>>5719676
It had key to victor sigma in season one as well as lore about Optimus prime
Dickie hated BW and wanted a more G1 style series

>>5719679
It was just Beast wars
He had them watch key to victor sigma and ultimate doom

>>5720002
>>5720008
I think it could've been done right if they had explained it better. Make it so that Rhinox is a separatist; he appreciates organic life and nature but he doesn't think it has a place on Cybertron, which has always, as far as he knows, been robotic. Make it so that he wants to preserve Cybertron's natural state, and maybe even add that history has shown that merging the two has had disastrous results(the BW writers considered the idea that humanity was wiped out after the Great War due to the Transformers bringing their war to Earth).

>>5718278
he was micheal bay before we even knew micheal bay

>>5720108
>Rhinox wants to secure the existence of his people and a future for a traditionally technological cybertron
>because he is EVIL!!!!!!1!
Imagine the brownie points. Emmys galore.

>>5720115
You're thinking of Josh Nizzi.
Bay only designs panning shots and explosives.

>>5719482
He's got that disgusting kind of unpainted greebling that the AoE Bayformers all suffered from. They can't design an angular toy to save their lives and budget won't let them paint anything.

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>>5719075
>>5719068

Eric Idle from Monty Python voiced Wreck Gar.

Weird Al performed the song "Dare to be stupid" which played during the battle with the junkions.

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Got my Groove today, ayyy!

Is there a book that collects all Floro Dery's Transformer art? This stuff is really cool.

>>5720241
>Weird Al performed the song "Dare to be stupid" which played during the battle with the junkions.

Thats exactly what I referenced, bro. >>5719075

>>5720246

Nice. Still waiting on mine, it's sitting in BBTS' warehouse until the TR Legends come in. Fuck paying shipping twice, right?

>>5720281
yea that's correct move them bastardos.

>>5720281
Trust me you will be disappointed with Groove.
I got him for 16 free shipping on Amazon when he first pop up and I felt really disappointed in him.
I can only imagine how much worse I be feeling if I paid 20+ and shipping. Hell I would have likely just tried to flip him fr the cost because he is just a shit mold with a lot of fox grape hype behind him.

>>5720389
Can you explain how bad is it?
I plan on getting UW Computron and there's a Groove there.

>>5720417
>>5720389
I think he's decent, myself. A nice break from constant repaints/retools, but overall he's very average as a transformer.

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>>5720241
Nice reading comprehension there anon.

>>5720455
>he's very average as a transformer
Oh.
That just sounds like the good molds of CW so it's not so bad I guess.

>>5718225
But Pretenders are part of G1. It's hardly in the category of changed for arbitrary reasons. I mean, I don't like Pretenders either, but make more sense when shitting on the Reedun fags.

>>5719787
I'd rather an orange Legends Groove and give a "G2" Rook a different, more obnoxiously neon color. Blazing purple maybe?

>>5720558
If Rook is a chess piece, why not just black repaint with the blue bits red or orange?

>>5720585
Chess combiner when?

>>5720558
Color him after the G2 comics Rook character. Darkish turquoise green with Silver and black.

>>5720594
You know it is weird no china company has gone bonkers and made a six chess piece combiner with the pawn as the weapon
I mean we got super cock and deformed wheel man

>>5720623
This.
Also, a darker shade of those colors would be somewhat similar to some APCs which ties in into the theme of loosely realistic and seemingly crazy color schemes of G2 Defensor.

Why are there still no Classics Dinobots? You'd think characters like them would be higher priority than most -masters (I love headmasters but come on).

>>5720683
Maybe Hasbro can release a Titan box set since they always say five Dinobots in the same color scheme wouldn't be appealing on shelves.

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>>5720698
I gotcchu fampai

So the past few days around 1:30pm EST to 2pm EST Groove has been going up on Amazon for 16.99 and selling out by 3pm just so people who don't know can nab one.

>>5720711
Oh wow good lookin out

>>5720702
Is it worth getting this set for, say, $110? I've been on the fence for a while and the price is probably as low as it'll go until Hasbro makes Classics iterations of the other four. I know the molds have some quirks, but the only AoE dino I bought was Scorn and I like him well enough.

>>5720727
personally no, that set is way too steap in price for the quality of the figures

I love the aoe dinobots, but you really need to love them for how they are, power ranger dino knights, slapping some g1 colour on them doesnt make them worth it

Good news is the regular realeases are dirt cheap and there are some oversized (voyager) kos with improved quality

But as g1 dinos, play the waiting game or go 3p

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>>5720043
Ordered! For 28 bucks and free shipping it's gotta be a KO.

Will report back on quality.

>>5720739
It is, it says takasa tony on the box.

>>5720739
>For 28 bucks and free shipping it's gotta be a KO.

Yeah, the fact that box says TAKASA TONY might also be a hint. But it's just a theory. A toy theory.

>>5720770
Too be fair the takasa tony ones are pretty damn close, the exhaust is a fantastic piece and has better qc then official

>>5720739
No transformer logo in the upper left and says TAKASA on the upper right. Its a KO for sure, but still as good as the real thing.

The legit(I think) Hot Rodimus I bought was a fucking nightmare of quality control, while this was great.

>>5720739
>>5720768
>>5720770
>>5720771
>>5720774
Thanks, you guys, I didn't even gnotice that (not that there was any doubt it's a KO)

>>5720770
>A toy theory.
What's the difference between a toy theory and a pet theory?

>>5720739

Hope you get one thats decent quality Anon.

>>5720739
>>5720794
I got mine in the mail yesterday. It was $30 shipped on Amazon. Got here in 2 and half weeks.

First off mine has tight joints, one small joint on one of his backpack rockets was put in backwards, but sanding it a little bit fixed it.

The BIGGEST difference is that the KO has really nice thick rubber tires as opposed to ABS plastic.

The paint had some dust issues on the roof, but nothing that a Takara one couldn't also have. Sadly the blaster that comes with him was scratched up, but I wasn't going to even display or bother with that accessory anyways.

Any questions?

>>5720802
None from me (the guy who just ordered it), but I appreciate your information.

I'm glad I happened upon this tip: I was going to spend the money on that Headmaster, Brainstorm.

>>5720802
>really nice thick rubber tires as opposed to ABS plastic.
So they went out of their way to ruin the one thing that Takara was getting right?

>>5720683
But there is a Grimlock. They just haven't made the rest.

>>5720815
I don't think so. These tires don't feel like the kind that rot over time. They feel better than the MP-10 tires for sure. I fail to see how rubber tires that actually roll in car mode vs slide is a downside.

Groove, Amazon, right now. Buy it now.

>>5720827
>These tires don't feel like the kind that rot over time
ProTip: All rubber rots over time.

>>5720835
Maybe it's a nice slow-rot rubber?

>>5720847
>slow-rot rubber

That's catchy. Like a band name or something.

>>5720835
I know it all does. If you use armor-all on it though it lasts a long ass fucking time. Longer than I'll live.

>>5720739
If they start pumping out all the repaints I might as well start collecting these.
Do chinamen give free shipping to unamerican countries?

>>5720856
civilized ones I believe so. The issue is how long it will take. Mail in most European countries takes MONTHS to show up once it reaches the destination country.

>>5720856
>chinamen and free shipping

Heck, I wouldn't know. Good question.

>>5720827
Anon all rubber degrades
Even the top shelf cost stuff used in home cracks and splits in as little as 5 years
Hell even car tires can't last a good decade without serious risk of cracking or damage
Rubber has its perks and needs but in a toy it's just better to have plastic.

>>5720856
Often, unless you're in one of those places with really rough/odd postal services like Italy.

Generally, I tend to see a lot of "Free Worldwide Shipping" labels on these type of sellers.

>>5717857
god i wish the level of animation was this good for all of the g1 transformers

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>>5720847
I find it depends on where you live more than the quality of the rubber. I live in the Northeast where it's pretty humid all the time, and even the tires on my MP-01 are still intact, meanwhile there are collectors elsewhere that already have MP-10s with destroyed tires. Could just vary from toy to toy. Who knows?

>>5720854
>armor-all
Never. I don't use it on my car, either. There's actually a chemical in it that causes plastic and rubber to look moist and shiny for a while, but as it dries out, it actually causes faster damage to the material. If you look it up, a lot of armor-all products are actually solvent-based, which is retarded.

I use Aerospace 303 on my car's dashboard and vinyl. It's probably one of the best products I've found. I think Wal-Mart carries it, maybe? If not, you can order it online.

>>5720880
I'm in Peru, which is on South America.
Our post office is pretty rough but things arrive mostly in time.

>>5720885
>depends on where you live

I'll have to dig out my MP-01, but I never noticed any degradation, and I live in a pretty dry area (southwestern Idaho)

>>5720711
It's 12:34 am EST and I just picked one up, there were four in stock when I saw the listing and three when I placed the order, so if there's any stragglers out there, go go go.

>>5720888
That would be a neat comparison. Mine is from 2004, I think. It was the second version that came with the trailer and the gray gun, Takara, that is.

Of course, I wonder if storing them away makes a difference, too. Mine has been boxed up and in a closet pretty much since I got my MP-10.

>>5720893
Mine was the first American release.

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Finally completed the forsaken combiner

>>5720905
>forsaken combiner
Forsaken? How?

>>5720913
All the figures he used m8

>>5720913
All of the 5-th member figures and Betatron who never got a team.

>>5720917
Take Off isn't forsaken until Blast Off gets a CW release, also, you should use Galvatronus as the torso, he's the only one that it would make sense to have mixed faction limbs.

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>>5720073
That pic was from 2015 when RiD just started.

>>5720927
I had them on Galvatronus before I took that picture, but I like this more as with this, Scattershot is a rejected torso too.

>>5720885
Don't get the petroleum armor all. Their are small $1 packets of this goop the sell that is silicone based that helps preserve stuff.

>>5720928
That pic really makes me wanna get Thunderhoof and Fracture.

>>5720928

When is that blue frog guy in the middle getting released? Haven't seen it anywhere.

>>5720928
Where can I get that scorpion thing?