Transformer General /tfg/ Hold on to your hats!

>>5687296

Do we have any plantformer figures? I'm not aware of any, not even 3rd party. I'd love some though.

>>5687300
I can't even think of any dollar store oddity that turns into a plant.

>>5687300
The closest would be Saberback, who has a disguise mode of a plant emerging from a Dinosaur carcass. Takara also wanted to do a triffid Transformer for Beast War's 10h anniversary, but plans fell through.

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>>5687301
Pretty sure that anon wasn't the one complaining.
And what does "good guys/bad guys" have to do with edgyness?
Also it's called black/white morality.

Hot damn, can't it be monday already? What's up with these posts lately?
Post some Ravage instead.

>>5687314
You can keep the threads pure by not replying to little shits.
Also no, Ravage reminds me of how much I was disappointed in FunPub.
Again.

6th!

>>5687318
>You can keep the threads pure by not replying to little shits.
Like you just did you asshat?

>>5687325
Pot, kettle, etc.

>>5687332
As long as it's admitted.

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>>5687318
Uhh, this one? I don't see anything wrong with it and it's Botcon, but I've never dabbled in that stuff.
Or are you referring to SG Ravage? That one's just Willis' pet OC, but nothing Funpub or /tfg/ related.

>>5687338
It looks okay there, but wait until you see the side-profile of the head.

>Hint: The back is totally flat.

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>>5687297
>Scalpers, what they are

Shitsuckers.

>how they work

By giving handjobs in the parking lot of Toys'r'us to lonely neckbeard store managers.

>and how do they sleep at night?

Poorly, because they're trying to earn a living on a piece of plastic that may or may not shoot up in value.

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>>5687340
Ahahaha shit, it is!
Looks like something out of fucking anniversary Ironhide/Ratchet.

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>>5687348
I mean, damn.
Thanks for the pics, you unlucky nip blogger.

>>5687338
I thought they made his OC canon.

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>>5687350
Were Botcon exclusives always this bad?

>>5687354

Most con exclusives in the US are shit. If you want good con exclusives, you need to look to Japan and some of the wild shit they put out for their cons.

>>5687354
2007 sets were GOAT
and holy shit what the fuck were they thinking?

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sweet FUCKERY

>>5687357
>Wild shit
>mostly just MP Diaclone/Generations repaints

The craziest thing they've ever done was that G2 Dreadwing/Smokescreen set out of Mindwipe and Skystalker. The rest isn't really that out of the ordinary. The last con they just had redecoes of Takara's already show accurate Beast wars Thrilling 30 figures. They also don't get remolds, for better or worse.

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TAKARA WINS AGAIN

>>5687360
Finally a meme-combiner that actually looks cool. Good job.

>>5687363
Yes we know.
> summoning wastedmolds.jpg

>>5687363
So, honestly, how many people are gonna buy a TR toy, swap out its head for one that they don't like, and then return it to their local Wal-mart?

Maybe I'm being paranoid but I feel like it would be good practice to make sure your TR toy has its actual head.

>>5687361

I meant they generally have better stuff, not specifically at TF conventions

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>>5687368

Not me, because I'm only buying the ones with the heads/deco's I like in the first place.

>>5687360
This is awesome! I was already going to get two grooves (hopefully) to go with my two rooks but now I need to get whitimus prime too.

>>5687363
Hardhead is one of the few I'm going Hasbro with. I just really don't like that brown at all.

>>5687368
Not me because I'm not an asshole.

>>5687360

Do that with 2 Rook's on Skylynx for arms, and 2 of any of the jets for legs.

>>5687369
Oh yeah, agreed on that point, especially considering theres companies that make entirely new toys just for conventionss. That said, there's a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't thing about con exclusives. Make good ones and people get pissed that they aren't available for more people(see, the Botcon 07 Seekers). Make bad ones and people just get upset in general.

>>5687300

>>Plant Transformers.

Fuck off with that Beast Machines shit.

>>5687348
>>5687350
>>5687354
>>5687338
AND IT STILL SELLS ON EBAY FOR $100+ USD

I swear, this community has some seriously wealthy autistic faggots in it. I've never me them, but just to know that someone out there is buying shit like this at those prices makes me want to sell off my collection to run as far away from this hobby as possible.

>>5687379
Sometimes we just need a breather from cars and jets all the time.

>>5687378

Honestly they should just stop the con exclusive shit, and instead just release stuff early there. That way you don't get shit tier stuff like Ravage there, but you do come away with something months before others.

>>5687384
This would be nice, or maybe have something a little extra with them, like figures before release but they have a little stamp or something on them under a foot to say like "Botcon 2016" just to make it stand out some from the standard retail.

>>5687388

Yeah, that would be a lot more acceptable. Give something the collectors can jerk off to, but also don't work yourself into situations like the Seeker one.

>>5687384
That just seems like sour grapes because you can't get something from a convention. They had the right idea in the 3H era. Make two-four nicely decoed exclusives with a nice presentation. FP just got greedy and overloaded their cons with crappy exclusives and things that went obsolete after a few years(Ironhide/Ratchet, Kup, Scourge, etc.). But actually getting an exclusive toy at a con is a nice treat.

Going hasbro for headmasters, Not paying 32 dollars for a deluxe just because it has more paint and a target master.

>>5687391

Nah, I don't care about con shit at all because most of it is terribly made. What I said is something I think would benefit everyone though, especially seeing the shit this last con turned out.

You can't honestly tell me you'd rather have that fucking hideous red combiner over getting a shot at the TR stuff long before others, for example.

>>5687360
mechashiva-mechashiva-mechashiva-mechashiva-mechashiva-mechashiva

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>>5687360

>>5687398
I'd certainly rather have my Botcon 16 Megatron than just getting a TR figure a few months before. I'm patient enough to actually wait for something like that. Megatron, however, is something I'd never get from retail, especially not today.

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>>5687345

>>Implying there aren't corrupt businessmen in any other countries.

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>>5687354
even G1 Onslaught wasn't this bad, what the fuck happened?

honestly, if clearances were such an issue, why not use the Deadend body?

>>5687338
>>5687348

Using one of the weakest CW molds was kind of the deal breaker for me to start with.

If they had used Dead End and gave it a decent headsculpt Id me much more likely to look one up on Ebay

>>5687354

Many are pretty decent, if grotesquely overpriced. But that are a fair number of those they dropped the ball on.

>>5687350

LOL Wut?

>>5687383

Gaaaaay. Plants have no place in Transformers.

How much are these worth? This seems like a good price and I'm tempted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/European-Transformers-G1-Protectobot-Groove-NEVER-OPENED-Defensor-/172211979278?hash=item2818a2440e

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>>5687348
>>5687350
>>5687354

that reminds me..

guys, please read pic related

>>5687396

Same here. Takara stuff does look nice, particularly those targetmaster mini-vehicles. But I dont have the deep pockets

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>>5687426

>>5687425
But its a world transformed, where things are not what they seem.

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>>5687428

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>>5687428
In 10 years, they at least managed one really nice headsculpt, at least.

Lets talk about the actual best TF headsculpts.

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>>5687446
the Autorooper was very nice I think

>>5687446
what are the odds of someone recasting the head for those of us without 600 fucking dollars for the botcon exclusive?

I have a spare RID megatron I want to mount it on.

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>>5687446
Breacher has a very handsome, anime style face

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>>5687446
>>5687454
so does Jetfire

>>5687454
Everything about this mold is great. Although I might actually prefer the Brawl repaint. If it was ko'd and upscaled it would still be great.

>>5687454
i really wish some one would knock that toy off and make him at least deluxe sized

>>5687468
i think it works as a "kid brawl"

transformers age, dont they?

>>5687454
Some takara guys actually wanted this mold to be the main hero of their version of the 2010 line, "Braveformers". Basically the 2010 Classics/movie hybrid figures redecoed as Brave style mechas. Sadly, it wasn't approved.

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I know no one actually cares, but I'm just gonna say fuck it and get UW Superion. I like the colors better and it's got Quickslinger. I figure I can get at least $50 for the three limbs I have and I'll probably keep Silverbolt, though.

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>>5687479
he's quite nice.

i actually had to get him cause he's much cheaper to ship than the american one

>>5687479

I care Anon. I got a UW Superion myself because it was actually a shitton cheap ($126 at the time, shipped) for me to get than to get the CW one.

>>5687523
Yeah, it's looking like about $135 shipped is the norm for right now. So I'm just gonna bite the bullet.

>>5687471
>transformers age, dont they?

No.

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>>5687532

so how odd would it be if I bought a YotG Masterpiece Soundwave and just fuckin' painted it like the standard MP-13? I'm really close to doing that since each month it seems less and less likely he will get a reissue.

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>>5687314
>Best Ravage toy is a 3p
>for 60$

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>>5687558
I love Iron Factory's tiny Ravage.

>>5687428

This was written by Willis, wasn't it?

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>>5687454
>>5687468
>>5687471

Bodyblock never ever

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_lhhyHlhI

One of htose crazy australians put up a review of fortmax, but I stopped watched when I saw this.

>the titan master head that forms cerebros also forms the connector point for fort max

Looks like its already damaged, am I right?

Should I be worried about fort max?

For those who don't like video reviewers doing stupid shit its minimal, very drone-y like peugh though

>>5687446
Fuck Fun Publications. I'll be satisfied if I can get this from a UK person for $300, but I'm worried that those fucked-over guys are going to want $100 as a middleman service, and if the quantities produced are a lot, that will end up pretty much being market price of around $400. Market prices have already dropped back down to around $500 after going up to $700 or $800 for a little while.

Then again, I'm not sure how large or small Roll Out Roll Call is as a convention. I only found one forum that even has this year's convention on it.

I hope Brian Savage and his family are ravaged by some horrible disease and he watches them die before he succumbs himself, all his fucking over of his fellow human for money amounting to nothing.
I need to make sure I'm not tempted to follow in his footsteps. I keep justifying it in my head like "Well, if the goyim are going to throw their money away, who am I to turn it down??", but where's the dividing line? Do I sell all my toys at cost?

>>5687552
Clear plastic doesn't age well. Painted clear plastic is a death sentence for the toys durability.
Settle for Soundblaster.

>>5687360
>2 black HFGs
>2 silver HFGs
>2 PE hands

7/10

>>5687582
>Tells the viewers the legs open
>doesn't open them
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off, if you're going to review something actually fucking review it.

>>5687582
that figure wiggles and jiggles a fuck-load.

>>5687472
Pics?

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Has science gone to far?

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>best Dragstrip will NEVER EVER get a Generations toy

JUST

>>5687625
>Chinformers
>best anything

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I'm feeling groovy tonight! I'll open this guy up tomorrow afternoon when I'm not busy.

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>>5687454
>>5687458
Did someone say handsome anime style faces?

>>5687582
I hope Trypticon turns out better, even Metroplex was a better figure.

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Why do Third Party TF's get their own thread? It gets one post every twenty minutes.

Do any of you people own any 3rd party tf's? Is there really that big of a split between marketplaces?

>>5687645
>It gets one post every twenty minutes.

That's practically turbo speed for /toy/.

>>5687368
Probably the same amount of people who part swapped for Combiner Wars. It might be present, but not huge or worrisome. Just remember to briefly inspect the packaging.

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>>5687645
>Why do Third Party TF's get their own thread?

No idea. Autists shitposting both sides in a sad attempt at trolling, is the only thing I can assume.

>Do any of you people own any 3rd party tf's?

Yes, and I'm going to own more of them if they keep putting out stuff as nice as IF and MMC do.

>Is there really that big of a split between marketplaces?

I doubt it. If I see something I like and it's within my very limited budget, I'll buy it.

>>5687472
>Some takara guys actually wanted this mold to be the main hero of their version of the 2010 line, "Braveformers". Basically the 2010 Classics/movie hybrid figures redecoed as Brave style mechas.
HOLY SHI-

>Sadly, it wasn't approved.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>5687645
I own a handful of 3rd parties. Most of the people in this thread will say that the 3rd party figures/companies are shit-tier quality. I would have to agree....IF this were like 4-5 years ago. Right now most 3rd parties produce much higher quality figures for just a little bit more than an equivalent price of a HasTak figure (talking Masterpiece 3rd party figures here, not CHUG stuff.)

Pic related, MX-II Andras (Behind the MP-28 Hotrod) is a $150 figure, a figure of the same size and quality from Takara would be the same price, maybe more considering the amount of die-cast this guy has, and those individually articulated fingers.

>>5687645
I own the cheapass TFC/Star Cats Dinobots. Do those count? I don't like them very much- I should probably test out painting with them, give them more red and black like dinobots should.

>>5687653

It can't be because of price. Big MP's are well past the $150 range and can have the same quality issues 3rd parties have.

Takara only releases a new figure twice a year or so, I don't see why people can't branch out.

>>5687656

The answer to any big expenditure is to wait for reviews honestly. And ask about their reputation.

3P generals pretty up front with which companies produce raw shit and which make solid gold. Theres a reason why MMC (and usually Hexatron) and Iron Factory are spoken of so much, and it's because damn near everything they make is solid gold.

>>5687653

>3rd party companies having shit-tier quality

If every third party company was KFC I would agree.

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>>5687665

Theres a lot of shit tier 3P's though. Theres also a lot of top tier ones.

Just gotta ask around is all. Just like you have to ask about any given official figure, since some are shit and some are great.

>>5687656
>It can't be because of price.

First day in the fandom? You never heard the vocal whiners who go "Meh, I'll wait for the US release of this Masterpiece toy, it'll be CHEAPER and EASIER TO GET"

Nevermind the "FIFTY BUCKS for a Masterpiece car? THAT'S HIGHWAY ROBBERY, It's a fifty dollar DELUXE" gnashing of teeth.

>>5687675

Not that anon, but I can kind of understand the bitching in the case of MP BB. He's just tiny for the price.

Speaking as someone who also collects animu shit figures though, I'm used to paying $40-80 per figure.

>>5687673

>Omnigonix

My fucking sides that thing is garbage.

>>5687675

My entire (meager) collection is 3rd party stuff. I'm very used to a 100 dollar price dag on even small things.

>>5687665
Top-tier
>Fans Toys
>TFC
>Maketoys
>MMC
>X-Transbots (only the newer stuff. First run of Apollyon and back aren't good)
>Unique Toys

Decent Tier:
>Igear
>Toyworld
>Fansproject
>Voodoo

Bad Tier:
>Warbotron (fragile qc ridden joints, known for coming with double left arms, etc, model kits break easy-peasy)
>KFC (add-on hands are alright though)
>Perfect Effect (add-on kits are really good though)

Steaming pile of shit tier:
>Omnigonix

>>5687682
>My fucking sides that thing is garbage.

The reviews of it literally falling apart in the hands of reviewers is gold.

>>5687656
>Takara only releases a new figure twice a year or so, I don't see why people can't branch out.

We have like, 4 new MP molds this year, possibly 5 if cheetor and Inferno manage to slip out by the end of the year. Plus repaints.

>>5687683
>Fansproject
>Mid tier
holy shit what a world we live in
it seems like just yesterday that Fansproject was the king of 3rd partys

>>5687682
>My entire (meager) collection is 3rd party stuff. I'm very used to a 100 dollar price dag on even small things.

That's interesting, when did you start collecting and why? It seems the usual thing is that 3P collectors start buying 3Ps to fill gaps in collections, but have started moving on to 3P exclusively.

>>5687685

Shockwave, Iron Hide/Ratchet, Not Shit Hot Rod...

Who else am I forgetting?

>>5687690

Monkeymus Primaltude (aka: MP Primal). MAYBE Inferno.

>>5687690
Primal in September/October.

>>5687686

Where theres money to be made, there will be people to fill the void.

>>5687683
>forgetting Impossible Toys

Just because they're defunct doesn't make them not shit.

>>5687689

When I was a child I loved transformers (I'm only 20 so not long ago). I got into collecting a few months ago because the idea of super high end TF's with crazy joints and articulation got me excited.

I'm a weird one because I have no allegiance to the cartoon nor any comic so I just get whatever looks cool.

>>5687686
Other people started out-doing them to be fair. I haven't seen a fans project figure someone else hasnt done that I thought was better.

>>5687683
Adding Iron Factory to top tier.

>>5687645
listen here boyo
it was not bayformers, or the shitty IDW comics, or hastak toys that made me get into TF toys, but Vangelus's review of 3rd party Energon Bruticus add-on by Fansproject, so there

>>5687704

I like their Dinobots better than most other 3P offerings. The others stick TOO close to G1 ones, including the bad aspects of them.

>>5687683
dont forget DX9 in that top-tier.

Also:

Transformer Want List

Expensive 3rd Party Shit
Unique Toys Y-02 Runman $104.99
X-transbots MX-III Eligos $169.99
Mastermind Creations R-17 Carnifex $189.99
Mastermind Creations R-13 Spartan $ 84.99
Mastermind Creations R-16 Anarchus $ 84.99
Mastermind Creations R-12 Cynicus $ 84.99
BadCube - OTS-09 Grump $ 69.99
BadCube – OTS-10 Slick $ 64.99
FansToys FT-16 Sovereign $154.99
Unique Toys Y-01 Provider $119.99
KFC - EAVI METAL Phase Five - Reflectrons Opticlones $119.99
Oversized KO Reximus Prime MP-08X $~120
OcularMax Perfection Series PS-01A Sphinx $ 87.99

TFC Toys Combiner Set: $99 Each $600 Total
TFC Toys Hades H-05 Aiakos
TFC Toys Hades H-04 Rhadamanthus
TFC Toys Hades H-02 Thanatos
TFC Toys Hades H-01 Minos
TFC Toys Hades H-06 Hypnos
TFC Toys Hades H-03 Cerberus

Official Takara & Hasbro Products
Hasbro MP-11 Acid Storm $100-120
Hasbro/Takara MP-13 Soundwave (needs a reissue) $300+
Takara MP-29 Laserwave $120-160
Takara MP-30 Ratchet $ 89.99
Takara MP-27 Iron hide $ 89.99
Takara MP-17 Prowl $ 69.99
Transformers Combiner Wars Victorion $ 99.99
Transformers Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus $ 99.99
Transformers Generations Springer $ 30.00
Transformers Generations Scourge $ 20.00
Transformers Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus $ 45.00
Transformers Titans Return Hot Rod $ 15.99
Transformers Generations Kup $ 20.00
Transformers Combiner Wars DELUXE Groove $ 17.99+
Transformers Titans Return Wheelie $ 9.99

>>5687715

>Wanting MP Ratchet and Iron hide

I mean opinions sure but why.

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>>5687645
Everytime I think about getting a 3rd party figure, I always hesitate and end up buying Macross, soul of Chogokin, and other stuff instead. The polish just isn't really there for me to justify the price. The designs always feel a bit off to me. I prefer the best of the official stuff to the best of 3P, design wise.

Ultimately, while I do own MPs and all, Transformers fall n the realm of "cheap" toys, for the most part. Just like how I wouldn't spend $10+ on a Marvel Legend, I don't really see myself spending $100+ on Transformers(unless its an MP.) Plus most 3Ps tend to be designed in Classics style, which I'm heavily trimming down on. As for the MP style stuff, I'm actually patient so I'd rather wait for the official takara releases, rather than something that doesn't match the MP aesthetics.

When we get 3P stuff on the same level of SoC Gaogaigar, then I'll bite.

>>5687715
Why do you post this as if anyone here cares?

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>>5687715

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>>5687724
How about this Scourge?

MX-II Andras

>>5687683
I'd put TFC in decent tier. They've come along from from Superion and that hot mess that was PK but, they've got a ways to go. XTB and UT maybe on the decent tier but at the bottom. Igear is dead bro.

>>5687741
Yeah,no. Looks nowhere near as good as some other high end Japanese stuff. Of course the character design is partly to blame,but still.

Here's what I ordered lately/have on order,for example; SoC Daltanious,Arcadia YF-19, VF-1S, SoC Big O

>>5687715
Apologize to your wallet right now.

3P wants:
MMC Carnifex and Kultur
GT Gravity Builder (Devy)
TFC Poseidon (Seacons)
IF Evil Lord (and notBlack Shadow if they also make a Sixshot)
DX9 Chigurh if TR Astrotrain just sucks too much

Hastak:
Fruiticus
Maybe G2 Superion
TR these n' those, whatever I end up finding and liking
TR Soundwave and Blaster
TR Astrotrain if it doesn't suck too bad
Flesh out pre-2007 toys

My plans are fast and loose.

>>5687767
>>5687715

The last two GT members
MMC Carnifex
DX9 Gewalt
FP Assaulter
MP 10

>>5687724
Get any offering from Fanstoys. Their the closest to official in terms of both aesthetics and quality.

>>5687715
>>5687772
>>5687767

MMC's Overlord, Tarn, Kaon, Turmoil
DX9 or IF's Legends size Megatron, Scorponok, Optimus
FP's Dinobots

Most every official TR figure coming out except Fortmax.

>>5687767
>TFC Poseidon
if only
if only 3rd party Ginrai wasn't so fucking botched I swear

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>>5687645
>Why do Third Party TF's get their own thread?
We had a lot of shitposting
You know that "Takara wins again" bullshit? That "what we could have had" TR pic posted every thread? The retard that post Jesus dashboard stupidity? Multiply that by eleven and that was how things were when the general tried to hold 3rd party and TFs. It was just an endless sea of bait. Some threads were pro Has/Tak efending them and calling third parties over price knock offs that ruin the industry, other threads were praise to 3rd party painting Has/Tak as going out of business and calling anyone that had issue with a 3rd party a poorfag. It got very old very fast and the only solution to stop the stupid was top split the topics in two.

>It gets one post every twenty minutes.
Yet has the same number of users in a thread. Shows you how "chatty" TFGs can get. Sadly I like 3rd party threads more because they are more on topic and don't melt to shitposting as easily as TFGs do. It's clear there are some retards here that just want to pick a fight/shitpost and their are just enough autistis to respond to it rather than ignore.

>Do any of you people own any 3rd party tf's?
I own the two Sharkticon sets made by the two companies Unique Toys and Fan Projects. The fans project Shark leader. The Unique Toys Galvatron and the 3 KFC perceptor micoman like figures.

Is there really that big of a split between marketplaces?
Just in cost. Beyond that it's about the same, one group wants really original takes the other wants more G1/source inspired. But due to the high cost and the fact there are several 3rd party makers everyone gets along rather well and is willing to call foul when a bad toy is made.

>>5687778
They come close,but they still feel just a little off. Honestly,I'm picky. I also don't mind waiting for official MPs since I have a backlog of other stuff to collect,anyway.

>>5687428

> GIGA and MEGA make up Overlord
> GIGAtron comes out one year as a tank
> MEGAplex comes out the next year as a jet

It's like Pottery.

Also, this is the only Botcon set I own. I kind of like every piece in it but I can see why it's not popular.

>>5687767

Piranacon was my favorite g1 combiner because of the gun gimmick. I still can't justify a six hundred dollar purchase though. Despite it appearing tfc finally pulled their heads out of their assess

>>5687791
Dude we're never getting closer to g1 representations of the dinobots.

Gigapower looks awesome too but they're sticking with the g1 toy aesthetic. I love the size and feel of giga but ft is fucking phenomenal

So I was watching Bobby Skullface's review on Omnigonix Sunstreaker/Spinout, and he said how he heard that it was probably another 3P company in disguise? He mentioned cassettes. Was he referring to KFC?

>>5687828
That's the ticket

Though it's still a rumor, not confirmed but damned close.

Still, terrible result regardless of who made it

>>5687828

People are assuming KFC in disguise simply because the quality is so hilariously bad it could only be KFC.

>>5687840
Don't some of their cassettes' joints literally crumble or something?

>>5687468

Aren't KO toys subject to toxic, horrible-ass plastic?

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>>5687840
>>5687842
>>5687828

>Omnigonix

>>5687842
I got Fader/Rover and Fader's paint started rubbing off in short order. The actual plastic quality seems decent but the paint is just barely "Walmart acrylic applied 15 minutes ago". I'm currently using simple green to remove the tape side paints and sealed over the robot paints with Pledge.

The fact Reprolabels has tape decals for those two when they have them factory painted should have been a sign something was fucked.

REMINDER Just because they cost $50-$100, they are still just Bootlegs.

>>5687865

Some bootlegs can be really top notch though, so much so that oversized KO's are becoming a market.

>>5687865
So?

>>5687870
>oversized KO's are becoming a market.
with that MMC Feral Rex KO being a complete disaster I don't think so

>>5687540
That first image reminds me of somebody.....

Last time on Beast Wars...

>>5687865
so is the shit that Jin tries to pawn off on eBay.

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You guys be careful. My Autobot counterpart is nearby... REAL nearby...

>>5687828
>Bobby Skullface

I tried watching him, he's a bit of a douche in a lot of his reviews.

>>5687921

Is this supposed to be an MP Autotrooper or something?

Why the fuck is Takara making this thing rather than doing another run of fucking Soundwave already.

>>5687933
>black Decepticon Tracks
>Autotrooper

>>5687933
>>5687921
It is a Diaclone repaint of tracks. Tbh I like it. I welcome an edgy new decepticon to the MP Shelf.

>I would much prefer a soundwave reissue as well, don't get me wrong.

>>5687933
More like an MP Vehicon.

>Why the fuck is Takara making this thing rather than doing another run of fucking Prowl already.

FTFY. Wonder why Takara hasn't done any rereleases for any of the Datsun bros.

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>>5687938

>>5687935

Yeah, I meant whatever the 'con equivilent is. I just end up calling all the generibots Autotroopers.

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Blaster is now in Microchange colors, Track's Hetero-life-mate in the "oops we lost the color models" deco.

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Diaclone stickers to cover the Decepticon symbol if you prefer your Diaclone display shelf PURE.

>>5687938
because they are still in stock at a lot of online retailers?

>>5687921
Okay. I didn't care about this mold till now. That face color scheme is orgasmic to me.

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>>5687921

I would buy pic related so bad if they did it

>>5688040
Pretty much the same thing, just wait for a 3p head, plus Vehicons are supposed to be black.

>>5688051
>plus Vehicons are supposed to be black
I guess the toys were black for some reason, but in the show they're purple

>>5687921
why do the proportions look so bad here?

it's doing that MP Shockwave thing where his forearms are reaal long, and his biceps are real short

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>>5688062

>>5687921
Shit, I'm a sucker for "evil repaints" with different heads.
Kind of wish that there was a Decepticon Fairlady or Lamborghini though, my MP Decepticons look kind of pathetic with just Soundwave bossing around Exhaust until Shockwave gets here.

>>5688069
Uhg. I WAS digging the colors for a while, but now it's looking really garish. Not a fan of that sickly green with red. Red, blue, gold. purple & gold. cyan & red. purple & red. It's just all over the fucking place.

>>5688040
Can't even repaint the black one into this, since the purple will blend in with the windows and you can't change it to pink.

At least there's a cool toy-accurate masked face. I hope people make recasts of it for Tracks and Road Rage.

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>>5687366
Hm?

>>5687601
Hate cunts that do that.

>>5688069
I kind of wished his face was red, perhaps he'll include another one to put on the first tracks.

>>5687881
freddy mercury?

>>5687540
huh.
I am just realizing that the reason Alpha Trion's TR toy has a horn on the lion head is because he doesn't have one on his regular head, but should.

>>5688140
this pic is fucking stupid.
There is absolutely no reason that they should create an entirely new mold for Brainstorm when we JUST GOT ONE.

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>>5688154
We don't have a good modern one based on the classic design.

>>5688054
the concept art for them was black, and a dark dark blue, and a little purple.
the toys started production based on the concept art.

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>>5688157
Implying this isn't a great modern update to the classic design

>>5688157
what are you talking about?
the new one is basically just the old one with sleeker lines. Even the transformation is almost exactly the same, just with the legs underneath instead of attached at the side, but they even went out of their way to make the arms tranform in a way that mimicks the leg kibble of the old one.
I mean, what more did you want, other than just a rerelease of the original?

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>>5688164

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>>5688166

>>5688154
They were either testing the waters on how people will perceive a new headmaster that doesn't have any of the original gimmick but has articulation, or they just want a new mold that will fit better with the new TR headmasters.

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>>5688157

You could always get Fansproject's SmartRobin.

He's a very good and faithful redo.

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>>5688164
>>5688165

It's based on the IDW design, plus it's not interactive with the new figures and he's massive compared to his mates.

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>>5688168

>people still complaining about a Deluxe size Brainstorm of which Blur is a pre-tool

Do people just hate choices?

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>>5688172

>>5688173

Have there been any pics of the non-Plat Brainstorm, or any idea when he's coming out normally, not as part of that set?

>>5688140
Still can't understand how someone would preffer the bunch of nobodies on the lower row.

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>>5688176
>>5688172

Pls no, that looks worse than the new deluxe, perhaps thats how I should look at it, it could be much worse than it already is.

>>5688168
They even bothered to mimic the stickers for the most part.

Seriously, we don't need another Brainstorm for a while.

>>5688173
so?
the IDW design was based on G1
this isn't chromedome here. Brainstorm wasn't turning into a flying octopod or some other wildly different alt mode like Chromedome did.
What, do you think we need a new ultra magnus so we can get one not based on IDW, who has a white optimus toy included?

>>5688184
Well, we didn't get an Ultra Magnus toy, we got corpse armor.

>>5688182
IYO

>>5688180
They actually fit the titanmaster pricepoint, whereas with the current, I'm sure most everyone would rather they get better figures.

>>5688184
I'd go for that, and a Powermaster prime retool would actually work better.

>>5688186
>>5688187
so you two dont care whether the toy is good or not, you just care whether it reminds you of the G1 toy enough?

That powermaster optimus is amazing, and he closest we'll get without legit powermaster gimicks. It's literally going to be the first tf toy I buy that is a remold of another I own.

>>5688190
But the new Brainstorm being shit is point being discussed, a new accurate Ultra Magnus wouldn't automaticlly be shit, don't be so pessimistic.

>>5688194
no, the discussion is that we got a great, faithful brainstorm in 2014, and a smaller, less faithful one is coming with TR. But some people are mad because they don't like that the good, faithful design happens to come from a comic's design.

It's literally them not liking it because they don't like the people who made it, not because they don't like the product.

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>>5688194
>But the new Brainstorm being shit
>opinions

>>5687645

The third party thread isn't just for Transformers related things but Transfags can't keep shitting themselves with shitposting wars between Takara and Hasbro. What hope was there for the unofficial market? It helps that there is so much stuff getting churned out that it would necessitate its own thread.

And to answer the other question, yes I own too many Third party things and I buy more of it than official stuff, but I still don't buy a whole lot.

>>5687828

There was a huge shitstorm over the news that they were using a KFC factory. KFC has already rebranded once and Xtransbots is just them by another name.

>>5688196
Wait what? "they don't like the people who made it" did anyone say they hate the IDW design? what's wrong with wanting a non-influenced Brainstorm that's accurate to the original? like what the new Blurr is getting (from a visual standpoint atleast).

>>5688200
>what's wrong with wanting a non-influenced Brainstorm that's accurate to the original? like what the new Blurr is getting (from a visual standpoint atleast).
what are you even talking about
the new brainstorm is no where near accurate to the original compared to the 2014 one.

Is your complaint that it's not boxy? Is that it?

>>5688201
I like the old one, but it's much too big compared to his compatriots, and can't interact with the new Headmasters, If I could swap the voyager with the new deluxe, I would, cause it's better than what we're getting.

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>>5688178
Here's the card art next to the art for the SDCC Titan Force Brainstorm. It should let you know what the deco differences are, although the SDCC art seems to have a different saturation compared to the IRL Brainstorm from Botcon.

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>>5688210
And here's the leaked CG render. It's in greyscale, but you can tell it's the individual release because of the wings tampos.

No, we don't know when he's coming out, and we don't have any in-hand pictures either.

>>5688207
Well that's fine, but that's really the fault of them for making the other headmasters not voyagers.
Let's be honest, the only "good" autobot headmaster being remade in TR is hardhead.

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>>5688213
Different anon, but I like both Hardhead and Highbrow. There haven't been enough pictures of Brainstorm for me to form an opinion, but I don't like Chromdome because of his chunky lower legs.

The Cons are all around great, though.

>>5688219
highbrow's altmode is what ruins it for me.

>>5688211
No matter how much I look at it, I can't figure out why he doesn't have the short fins on TOP during his alt mode.
that cockpit has got to move around or something.

>>5687870
>PRID Wheeljack got a leader-sized KO
>FE Megatron never got a voyager-sized KO
Fuck you too, China.

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>>5688222
What about it, the greebles?

>>5688227
the greebles are bad, but not compared to Chromedome.
Nah, I think it's the overall flatness of it. I don't like that they did away with the water-landing type gear, and flattened it out. Now it just looks like a chunky jet with helicopter kibble.

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>>5688222
>highbrow's altmode is what ruins it for me.
I like the chunky chopper look. It has a retrofuturistic feel to it that appeals to me.

Also having a cockpit that actually looks like a cockpit is very satisfying.

You're free to dislike him, though.

>>5688232
I will say that, like blurr, he looks better in photos than in renders, so maybe I'll wait for reviews.
I can't spend too much on TR though.
I was originally only getting galvatron.
Then Powermaster prime got announced.
Now I'm thinking of picking up 2 of the deluxes.
and they're not done yet.

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>>5688232
It'd be cool if chromedomes headmaster could enter through the door, instead of having to lift the roof up.

>>5688234
>I can't spend too much on TR though.
Yeah, me too. I had been out of the TF game for years now, and only wanted to dip in quick for a single CW team.

Now I'm steadily building a Legends collection, and currently have plans to get the Decepticon Deluxe Headmasters, Hardhead, Crashbash, and more Legends.

>>5688235
There would've been more unnecessary kibble though, given the way Chromedome's design works.

Maybe if TR had a Datsun mold.

>>5688184
>What, do you think we need a new ultra magnus so we can get one not based on IDW, who has a white optimus toy included?

Absolutely.

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>>5688256
They could release a legends powered buggy to go with it.

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>>5688232
I like how, no matter what, they're gonna fit a bonus second Titan Master seat into every Deluxe.
>Hardhead - base of the cannon
>Skullcruncher - gator cranium
>Chromedome - second gun
>Weirdwolf - bigass cannon
>highbrow - half a seat on his two guns
>Mindwipe - on the shield thing?
>Blurr/Brainstorm - car hood/nosecone
>Scourge - doublebarrel gun

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>>5688267
I don't like it when it's on the guns, they look like they have no guts to them.

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>>5688268
I think it works best on Weirdwolf.

>>5687403

Brother.

>>5687428

Truth has been spoken.

>>5688172

I love the transformation.

>>5688174

Oh that is sweet.

I wish Devastator hadn't been so gigantic so he could have fit in better with the rest of the combiners.

>>5688279
Devastator was made from the concept of a MP Devastator. He's MP scale.

>>5688279
It's cute that Hasui took CW/UW Devastator as his chamce to take a stab at MP Devastator; I do agree though that we could have used a smaller Devy.

Maybe at some point later on there will be a six-Deluxe Constructicon team that uses the CW port for its limbs.

>>5688268
My idea on the gun thing is for emulating a targetmaster

>>5688286
Well that's a stupid idea.

>>5687921
>>5687942
>>5688069

Looks great but Loud Pedal is a shitty name, funny enough a few days ago FunPub used the black Diaclone Tracks in one of their stories and they called him Vivisector.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Vivisector

>>5688227
>>5688232

I had an idea.

Headmasters Animated Megatron anyone?

>>5688333
It'd be a good exclusive, but I wouldn't want to see it in the mainline.

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>>5688333
>Highbrow body
>voyager Megatron head
>voyager Megs cannon
Sounds like a fun con exclusive.

>>5688340
Is that thing confirmed for triple changer, like the rest of voyager class?

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>>5688342
Neither of the leaked Voyagers are confirmed for anything, because they're leaks. However, Hasbro did state that all of the Leaders and Voyagers in TR will be triple-changers, so it follows that Prime and Megs are as well.

Megatron's red triangle stickers imply a jet third mode; there is no indication of what Optimus's third mode is gonna be.

>>5688342
>>5688347
The popular guess is that Megatron and Optimus will be remolded into Blitzwing and Octane, respectively.

>>5688349
Megatron being blitzwing doesn't bother me, its optimus into octane since (least g1) he didn't have the shoulder pylons, only the generations due to design limitations did that.

Gonna need a shitload of retooling, I could accept generations octane because its smaller but not TR octane, least based on this current form

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>>5688284
>He's MP scale

>>5687454
>Breacher
I wanted that guy, but I heard ROTF scouts were floppy messes.
Was it the ball joints or something?

>>5687364

I thought you named it "HandJob" and lol'd.

>>5688365
If they're floppy, they're not mess-level. My Breacher has some loose ball joints, but not loose enough to keep him from standing.

>>5688365
RotF/HftD scouts are all GOAT actually.
As for the joints, easy fix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_lhhyHlhI

Lol, what a shit figure, and what a shit reviewer as well, It's the video equivalent to shouting FIRST! in the comments.

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From a chink transformers page, looks like the ko mp11's have turned blue.

>>5688377
You're a bit late m8, i posted it already >>5687582 but more love for Aussies is cool.

Gotta give him something, he ain't optibotimus trying to remember shit he doesn't know, he ain't emgo trying to cater to 12yr's with adhd, its just some guy doing it casually and his sub count seems to enjoy that sorta thing.

I just find him boring like peugh, yet still retarded enough to pay $360aud for a lump of shit that we saw coming miles away, that's his biggest crime coming in at 2ft tall

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgJUca2fio

Part 2 of the fortmax review buy the crazy aussie, he talks ALOT about the crotch, and mentions about the wheels being replaced by a simple cover.

Still doesn't open up the legs, feel free to ignore, the previous video which has been posted twice does all we need at this point

>>5687370
Are there any wasted molds in TR?

>>5688389
See
>>5688140

>>5688386
To be fair, don't the legs open exactly the same as Metroplex? And it's not part of any of Fort Max's official modes?

I get that it's annoying to talk and not show something in a video review, but I don't know if there's really anything to see honestly.

>>5688396
That's what I was thinking, its just annoying, nothingmajor

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>>5688389

yup.

>>5688401
Change the retool of blurr comment to a type of mold.

>>5688401
>being this assmad someone insulted your precious Hasbro

so how many hundreds of dollars have you spent on ponies this month to support the company?

>>5688417
Seems more like someone got assmad about a picture that gets posted every thread.

>2016
>no Chinese knockoffs of TFA Dragstrip for $20-30

It wasn't supposed to end like this.

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>>5688417

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>>5688436
>replying to a "u mad" post with a "i not mad" macro

wew lad

>>5687425
>Not wanting a rosebush that turns into a humanoid knight with a whip of thorned vines

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So I've been trying to figure out all of the hasbro cw figures that have a alternate head that we haven't seen yet.

Brawl and Skylynx haven't seen either a head only retool or a extensive retool.

The silverbolt mold has been extensively retooled three times, but we've not seen a head only retool of any of the three.

Hot Spot hasn't had a head only retool.

Trailbreakers a oddity, he could be considered a head only retool of Offroad/Ironhide but he's got a new arm (and remolded HFG) so he might have a head only retool.

Rook has no head only retool, Unless it's one of the funpub releases (doubt it though)

Motormaster and First-aid's alternate heads saw release as funpub figures Toxitron and Ratchet. Onslaught had a alternate head as Armada Demoisher which never saw use.

I don't know if the Torchbearers and the takara guys count.

I wonder what the unseen heads where, or if they even existed, what would you guys like to've seen from the above?

>>5688467
skylynx and brawl will both be on liokaiser, did the american computron brawl not use a new head? I wasn't paying attention

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>>5688470
CW Nose cone didn't have a new head.

You made me remember, Sky lynx has remolding for his Liokaiser release, but so far it seems it's just the Combiner head, so I guess he's a head only retool?

>>5688470
CW Nosecone keeps the Brawl head.

Are any of the RID autobots any good? Everyone raves about the 'Cons but is there anyone who can be classified as more than just 'generic' on Bee's side?

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Is the japanese Weirdwolf worth it if the only noticable difference is trans-red plastic vs the Hasbro's trans-pink plastic? There's also Yellow Apeface, but he's forgettable

>>5688548
If you think Yellow Apeface is forgettable, you can just stick with the Hasbro Wolfwire.

I think part of the appeal of the Takara Deluxe Headmasters is the bonus color-coded vehicle, besides the anime heads (and even then, your mileage may vary). Buying a Hasbro deluxe plus an individual Titan Master pack may end up being cheaper, plus you get an extra head.

>checking mandarake
>refreshing as I look for certain things
>the lg-ex beast war guys show up
>7000k yen
>click refresh again
>all but rattrap are gone

Well someone had money and good taste

>>5688543
I've heard good stuff about Drift, but don't own him. I like my Strongarm, but mostly because I like Fembots. Objectively, she's mid-tier to weak.

>>5688548
The heads are different. All of Takara's match the Headmasters anime. Plus, the head's robot modes generally have a lot more paint.

What's considered a non-rape price for Groove?

>>5688543
Strongarm, drift, and bee. Prime isn't bad once you fix the arms. Jazz is neither good nor bad. He just is. Ignore grimlock (BORING) and sideswipe (can't transform properly)

>>5688574
$36aud is what I paid (thats including shipping), was 27.95aud before that.

Basically anything higher than a cw deluxe is rape

>>5688574
Anything before your buttwallet starts to hurt, just sell your cw and go for the uw set.

Somewhat of a casual fan here, what do people use to clean the metal hubcaps of recent or older figures? I heard of using rust remover as a fine choice, but I want to know if there's a safer way of doing it.

>>5688594
I'm gonna put this in here before someone else does.

>Stop buying toys with diecast

>>5688594
>metal hubcaps
>recent figures
Usually they're chromed plastic, you don't use rust remover on that.

I suppose if they have rust already on the older toys sure but I'd consider simple metal cleaners provided it is metal and not plastic seeing how certain versions had diecast replaced with plastic.

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>>5688543

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>>5688610
>tfw this never shows up on mandarake
The one good TAV release that isn't just a straight repaint and not only did I miss it but no one seems to want to sell up

>>5688610
>new weapons
>remolded chest
>still don't bother fixing the car roof hanging off the back of the legs

Takara-Tomy drops the ball AGAIN

>>5688607
>>5688601
I don't mean die cast, I'm talking about the metal pins that usually keep wheels in.

Plus I live in an area where the weather constantly fluctuates, and apparently that's not good for the pins.

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>>5688467
>Rook has no head only retool, Unless it's one of the funpub releases (doubt it though)
Tarantulas

>>5688645
Anon meant that there's a possibility that the Tarantulas head is the official backup head that HasTak designed ahead of time (like CW Ratchet or Legends Reflector). But it seems very unlikely.

>>5687446
The original RID Megatron/Gigatron has a pretty GOAT headsculpt. He just looks plain evil. The chromed eyes help of course.

>>5688574

$18

Anything after that is unnecessary markup.

>>5688618
Try to scrape the rust with aluminum foil.
Then add some wd40 to prevent it from rusting again.

>>5688474
That's one stupid drilltank.

>>5688474
If this guy were available separately I'd buy a few of him, make some replacement weapons on Shapeways and have him as a mass-produced Autobot goon. I just ain't feeling him as Nosecone. The UW version just looks better (though I'm not buying that either, as the fate of poor old UW Defensor put me off official combiners for good).

I'd totally buy Brawl retooled into Armada Demolishor though. Just give him a new turret and headsculpt and he'd be good to go.

>>5688698
Thanks, really appreciate the help.

>>5688714
>as the fate of poor old UW Defensor put me off official combiners for good
what was that fate?
His questionable higher cost or that fact that Groove isn't a good model/figure?

>>5688725
Just use a little wd40. Just enough to coat the metal surface. If you get some on the plastic, wipe it off quickly.

>>5688731
I was the anon whose Blades suffered a nasty case of "shatteredHFGportitis". I suspected it might be the Nonnef feet I used...until Groove and Alpha Bravo suffered the same fate from the regular HFGs. A shame, as I really liked the design and engineering of 'em, but the plastic just wasn't up to scratch. I'll just get the Maketoys version when I have the money I guess.

>tfw Maketoys Superion, Bruticus and Predaking never

>>5688743
Fool you once, shame on them.
Fool you thrice, shame on you.

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>>5688743

If you want a Predaking, go with Feral Rex. Fucking amazing.

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>>5688775

>>5688798
Worst girl

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>>5687297
>make a highly poseable Optimus Action figure

>give him wheels on his hips that hinder articulation

>forwhatpurpose.jpg

>>5688814
DUDE GEEWUN LMAO

>>5688743
Hasbro reformulated their plastics to save money on oil.

>>5688782
I actually don't like Feral Rex that much. He is cool and I agree he's the best Predaking on the market, but there's things about him (Leo Dux partsforming, the combiner proportions, the general derpyness of the beast modes) I can't bear. I would have gone for the TFC version but then I saw Skullface's review and just went "fuck that".

>>5688814
I don;t see them hindering thw waist, what the outer leg movement?

Wasn't there a pic of this thing doing a high kick?

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>>5688834
>what the outer leg movement
exactly

>Wasn't there a pic of this thing doing a high kick
here ya go

>>5688840
So I guess he ain't kicking any bots from the side then, a pity

>>5688831

I love Feral Rex, but I can see how the aesthetics might bother some. After all, that'll always vary according to taste.

What partsforming on Leodux though? The sword bits (which are more meant to go on Talon's wings as guns than to be Leo's lion chest since the chest is hidden by the lion mane unless you flip him over), or the buttshield? Given how many official TF's have a "weapon is also a part in altmode" I can't really fault that.

I originally was looking at the cheaper NotPredakings myself (because I'm a poorfag), but after I saw they all had some bigass flaw somewhere, I bit the bullet, saved up, and got Feral Rex.

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Just gonna leave this here

>>5688866
The angle of TR Max's right airstrip in the top pic will never not look like missiles being fired from his chest.

>>5687921

Anon, apologies for my stupidity, but how do I get one of those?

>>5688864
I thought 2 big chunks of the lion belly have to be moved to Divebomb when he's in robot mode? I don't mind the buttshield (for the reasons you mentioned) but having a part of him having to be attached to another robot when he transforms between his two basic modes is kinda weird.

>>5688866
>Hasbro version has more paint apps

DELETE THIS

>>5688877
>nipple missiles, activate

>>5688878

You wait for it to be released, then you buy it from any of like a dozen sites.

>>5688879

They do, but most people just remove them and keep them on Divebomb unless they're forming the bigass combiner sword no matter what mode they keep Razorclaw in.

Mine personally don't even fit on Razorclaw because it looks like a bar inside him was put in upside down, which affects nothing other than fitting those two bits in. Kind of disappointing I got one with a QC issue, but I only discovered the issue long after I bought him so I can't do a return, and since I never put those pieces there in the first place it doesn't bother me.

>>5688878
Depends, I'll be nice, regularreleases do show up on a shit tone of sites, depending on country you might be better off with amiami/hlj, straight from japan, bbts/robot kingdom premium collectables etc if abroad.

If its an online exclusive unless you have someone in japan/can access hasbro asia goods/have a willing proxy the later options I mentioned before (bbts, robot kingdom, premium collectables) can get them, but they'll be higher in price compared to domestic releases

>>5687363

Man without the nostalgia goggles like this looks like dogshit.

>>5688891
What do you mean looks like?

I smell it from here

>>5688880
Those are stickers, anon.

>>5688882
>>5688890

Much appreciated, my concern was if it is a Japan exclusive; can't speak moon runes to save my life.

Shall wait for further info.

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>>5688866
Why didn't they tried this?

>>5688909
did hasbro fire you or something?

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>>5688909

it's not perfect but I'm sure you can do it a bit better.

>>5688909
Seems like it needs more than just that existing hinge. Like, a sliding chunk of plastic in the lower leg that keeps the "knees" flat on the ground, for stability.

>>5688880
stickers aren't paint apps hasfag

>>5688909
Not perfect, but that looks loads better than just leaving him doing the splits.

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>>5688911
Not sure if thats a good or bad thing.

>>5688912
>>5688929
Sure, adding pieces would be better, but what i was trying to say is that theres an easy way to get the towers.

>>5688936
wouldn't he be more a takara cuck if he wanted the pic showing the "paint" apps be the one he wanted deleted

Okay so I missed out on Beast Machines and I want to know which of the toys I should pick up.

I know the line was pretty hit-and-miss with shit like Silverbolt, but I'm really digging the overall aesthetic of the Maximals. Very alien. I was thinking that Longhorn would be a good place to start

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>>5687921
I would rather have had this scheme.

>>5688929
Just tried it with Metroplex, he can't get his hips into position, but the knees will bend front and back like chicken legs, they are deep enogh to keep the pose, it work, but the shin guns will point only to the sides.

>>5687428
that head looks like sylvester stallone all beat up in Rocky 3.

>>5688967
Are you basing that on anything in particular? Is that the main Japanese Diaclone look as opposed to the Finnish one Loud Pedal is closer to?

>>5687921
I kinda wished they used the Roadrage variant of the mould for this, just so I could have a femme decepticon on my MP shelf

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>>5688909
>Metroplex is still technically taller
>Metroplex has a better base mode

ahahahahahaha