Transformers General: More MP edition

How come we get this but we still don't get a Jazz?

>>5653987
Dunno, but besides Hauler I have no interest in it to be honest.

>>5653987
You don't frontload your releases. If they released all the biggest fan favorite MPs in the first few years there'd be less excitement for the later ones. Now this way when we get Jazz sometime next year it'll feel like a huge thing.

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I do like the tire feet.

Well at least they're doing something other than a car.

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>>5653985
>Even more useless Autobots
Guess I should treasure Shockwave, I probably won't see another Masterpiece Decepticon until 2019

>>5654022
funny thing is that they actually completed MP versions of all the 84 Decepticons. there just aren't that many 84 'Cons.

>>5654022

Who else could they do? Insecticons? The Triple Changers?

Fuck the haters, I'm psyched.
Then again, Inferno was on of my very first Transformers way back when, so I'm a tad biased.

So what are the likely repaints?

Huffer wouldn't surprise me, they've shared molds before.

Maybe Smolder from PCC? He's a literal nobody for a failed line, but a Decepticon fire truck is one of a kind and including him lessens the feel of Autobot favoritism.

>>5654051
cant wait to have them kiss

>>5654026

Aside from those they could do Reflector, Dirge, and Thrust.

>>5654071

Dirge and Thrust are only a matter of time.

Reflector be great.

>>5654026
Exhaust and Road Rage proved they're willing to do Literally Who characters who didn't appear in the show to justify reuse of a mold.

>>5654026
Reflector was in talks once.
They couldn't agree to either doing all three or just a single unit that turn into one camera

>>5654076
That proved they are will to make a quick buck with a retool.

>>5654048
Grapple, Hauler, Artfire

>>5654024
There's still reflector and a need for a currect MP scale Megatron.

>>5654085
Good luck with that
They had a hard time with the large one I don't want to picture what we get scaled down

>>5654085

We'll get Galvatron before we get a new MP scale Megatron...that transforms into a gun.

>>5654096
I doubt they have the courage to make him a tank

>>5654100

Eh, they could market it as Masterpiece G2 Megatron first and then do a grey repaint as a con exclusive or something.

>>5654104
G2 was to well revived
The only reason we got g2 sideswipe was because it was an easy retool
The jap market is worse than g 1 ers

>>5654104
>MP Reverse Convoy
Neat

If we get a new MP Megatron it's definitely going to be a gun again, there just won't be a Hasbro version probably.

MPs have only gotten more and more serious about cartoon accuracy as the line goes on so there's no way they would make Megatron a tank.

Also they're not stupid. They know people want gun Megatron and they know the first one is shit and out of scale with their current line.

MP Megatron redo when? Or MP Seeker redo when? Or MP Blitzwing, or MP Astrotrain, or...

>>5654026
>Megatron
>Galvatron
>Blitzwing
>Astrotrain
>Cyclonus
>Insecticon 3-Pack

I don't think that's an unreasonable request. Combiners would be wonderful, but we'll never see those.

>>5654092
I thought that had more to do with that Megatron needed to be designed in such a short time frame?

>>5654100
Just do the CW Leader class Megs, but competent and with a pretty obvious totally not planned for gun mode. Even pack him with a tiny transforming gun Megatron he can hold.

Then he'd have the proper bulk the leader of the Decepticons should have, and the repaint opportunities would be endless... Armada Meg/Galvatron, Megazarak, G2 Megs, and so on.

>>5654121
Do you believe the engineers could make a competent gun Megatron? Because tank Megatron has more bulk to work with and has better repaint options.

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Should I add a black stripe in the molded crest, too?

>>5654154

Looking at the various attempts by 3P's and official ones of gun Megs, I think they could do it, but it requires a shitton of good engineering and planning. Apolloyon was close to perfect, but those super thin stalks and fiddly transformation that looks scary as fuck could use a redo.

Best I've seen oddly enough is DX9's Mightron Legends class Megs. He's still got transformation stalks, but for a Legends figure I think he's amazing for a G1 gun Megs.

>>5654154
MP-5 did its job as a transforming toy, it just had a very crud robot mode because it had to stick to a specific model of gun in the process. I also suspect the size was necessary for that, because the iGear shrunken KO never came out. I bet the found issues.

Apollyon and Hegemon prove things are possible in a better way. Hegemon though is a bit simple and cheats on the arms, Apollyon is just as much of a fiddly mess as MP-5.

I suppose one way to go it would be a cheat- do the Browning/Legends Class Megatron transformation with the left arm as the front of the gun, ignoring the P-38 mode. Since Megatron never went without the silencer in fiction, having an extra barrel wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Although it'd be just far easier to do a G2 Megatron. It's a simpler design(unless they try to have working treads or something needless like that), they really wouldn't have to do much to update the original toy(since Hero Megatron already did half the work) and it could easily get an international release.

>yes I know "Hasbro version" isn't guaranteed since they have been half-assed on getting even the smaller ones out, UM isn't on any immediate lists and fat chance they will import Star Saber, but a gun would have 0% chance

>>5654159
Yellow seems like a better idea

So after the original cast stragglers are taken care of (namely Reflector, Jazz, Insecticons, Hoist/Trailbreakercutterer, and other forgettable Autobots) where do you think MP will go next?

I doubt we'll be getting anything featured in Gimmick Wars (Gestalts and Headmasters, plus whatever the third part is).

I'm guessing we'll get a bit of the Triple Changers (mainly Blitzwing, Astrotrain, and Springer), but I'm wondering- will we get MP full size versions of the mini bots? Cosmos, Seaspray, Warpath, and Powerglide are relatively popular.

>>5654022
Go 3rd party man. FT figures are on Takaras level.

>>5654202
>believing the 3rd party meme

Kek, whenever I browse the 3rd party thread I have a laugh at how hilariously bad or far from the character they're trying to imitate their products are.

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>>5654048
I wouldn't call PCC a failed line. Yes, drone-combining wasn't well-received. However, it's clear that the Commander two-packs did well, as Hasbro revisited the two-pack idea later on.

>>5654199
Depending on how this year goes, if there's any more BW MPs(2017 is fair game for those, too; Japanese BW didn't debut until '97. Takara was still doing Brave in '96.), they may round out those releases after G1 Season 1-3. Minibots are a certain, too, since they don't face any licensing issues for the most part, besides a few like Cliffjumper(who runs into the SD proportions issue.)

I don't think we'll get certain things like you said; like any gestalts and city-bots. basically if it's something that'd need to be larger than MP Ultra Magnus or more expensive than Optimus, it's a stretch. MP Optimus remains the most expensive this series has gotten, and takara probably doesn't think they can sell an MP for any more than that unless its Optimus. Magnus and starSaber where both cheaper.
Otherwise I think when they do most of G1, MP will transition into a general best-of line focussing on Leaders and important characters (like movie Bumblebee) from the most popular series. They're probably itching to do Armada Optimus and Ginrai. I expect a movie Bumblebee for the movie anniversary, too.

>>5654244
>Cliffjumper(who runs into the SD proportions issue.)
I'd love to eventually see MP Jazz and Cliff side by side in vehicle mode.

>>5654197
Good idea. Where on it do you think would be best? Just the molded crest, or should I extend it to the forehead or something?

>>5653985
>>5654000
>>5654003
>>5654006
T H I C C

>>5654051
>not posting the TFA yuri version

Here's a (You) for your feeble efforts, dumb phoneposter.

>>5654223
>I have a laugh at how hilariously bad or far from the character they're trying to imitate their products are.

then you should find IDW's redesigns hilarious

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I was hoping for more BW MP news, but this is cool too, I guess.

I'm just kinda hoping to get a new version of my first Transformer ('96 deluxe Cheetor) before the year is up, but I doubt we'll get anymore this year at this point.

>>5654244
>besides a few like Cliffjumper(who runs into the SD proportions issue.)

or they could skip the licensing and just do the damn toys without a needless restriction.

>>5654283
>>not posting the TFA yuri version
what

>>5654292
RiD Sideburn changed the way things are done, since it was implied Dodge made Hasbro buy a license because they saw the toy resembled their dodge Viper but was unlicensed. Otherwise you have to do made-up vehicles which ruins the point.

Anyway, the licensing issue isn't much of a problem because TakaraTomy already makes licensed toy cars, and SD licensed cars aren't unheard of. The issue is more on their end; do they keep the cartoon/toy proportions and stay faithful to the cartoon like the robot modes try to, or do they do real world accuracy, like most of the licensed vehicles? Bumblebee veered to realism rather than the chibi Penny racer proportions, but a lot of people couldn't tell the difference anyway.(the biggest thing being the wheels being much bigger in the G1 toy/cartoon).

>>5654308
Also I forgot to note, while they went for realism as far as proportions go, MP Bumblebee's car mode is still much smaller than it should be. he'd be bigger than the datsuns, for example.

>>5654312
So why is Bumblebee so small then?

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>>5654296
You guys are more useless than Starscream.

>I couldn't stop thinking about it, "What would Inferno be like in Animated/EVO"? I figure that the designs tend to stray from G1 whenever possible, so Beast Wars-inspired design is a must.

>Thus: Inferno was a fire-fighter but then, somewhere along the way got corrupted by Blackarachnia (suppose after S3 on Beastie-Island or whatever?) and she became a fire ant! But clearly, Red Alert isn't all that bothered by it. ;)

>The scene actually looks very romantic to me. Maybe their first night together from a long separation.

>>5654315
Because ultimately they go by cartoon sizing for robot modes. Bumblebee's robot mode was smaller than Prowl or sideswipes, so he's a smaller toy overall. So even if they made Cliffjumper a realistically proportioned caar, he'd be a smaller car by Jazz(unless they do some engineering magic.)

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TAKARA WINS AGAIN

>>5654334
Except that their colors are shit and Blast Off looks hideous.

>>5654341
in terms of colors they all look better except Blast Off. And Blast Off is STILL better by default by actually fucking looking like Blast Off instead of Slingshot with dogshit all over him.

>>5654334

We went over this over a month ago Anon.

UW Onslaught=CW
CW Blastoff<UW in mold, UW<CW in color
UW Swindle=CW
UW Brawl=CW
CW Vortex<UW Vortex, but UW is too dark.

And UW Bruticus<CW Bruticus because CW Bruticus has a better overall color scheme. Cartoon Brutey was ugly as fuck.

If you want the best Bruticus you'd have to paint CW Onslaught the same blue as UW but leave the chest grey for Bruticus, and repaint Vortex's grey.

>>5654334
Man, this would be perfect if they went with a chocolate brown on Blastoff and the chestplate instead of that weird pastel orange.

>>5654347
>UW Onslaught=CW
No, UW Onslaught is better by virtue of actually having paint.

>UW Swindle=CW
Nope. Same as Onslaught.

>>5654334
>tfw buying Hasbro Onslaught and dumping Takara Onslaught to the nephew play-pile

I really hope Hasbro does a toy-colors Blast-off, too. I prefer G1 toy colors so much in general and I wish hasbro was more faithful with their updates because otherwise I'd go for them more.

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>th-the headmaster gimmick is unobtrusive guise!
>i-it would look just as good even if it didn't have the headmaster, r-really!

>>5654334
>orange Blast-off
>Bruticus' chest isn't in cartoon-accurate colors
>Brawl's waist isn't fixed
>"TAKARA WINS AGAIN"

Takaradrones, when will they learn.

>>5654363
I'm really wondering how those helmets are going to be dealt with. Imagine if there's no way to store them at all in alt mode.

>>5654365
>Slingshot Blast Off
>Bruticus has random splotches of purple on him and a black head that isn't accurate to the toy or cartoon
>Vortex's jarring piss yellow missiles
>"H-hasbro is better"

Hasbro cucks, when will they learn.

>>5654363

The grain in that picture could feed an african village Anon.

>>5654344
Blast Off was never a basketball with toothpicks for arms and legs.

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>>5654372
>Vortex's jarring piss yellow missiles

The yellow missiles are meant to be representative of the stickers from the G1 toy.

>>5654373
Yes, I agree anon. Make you buy the official Galvatron™ figure before deciding that the figure looks bad! Giving us-err, I mean them your money will make it look better! Make sure to support the official Transformers™ line!

>>5654376
And it does a fucking awful job at doing it.

>>5654375
Still closer than literally Slingshot in brown Hasbrofag.

>>5654318
Isn't Inferno a boy in Animated?
Flashpoint seems like it would be the one to fit in this grouping yuri

>>5654334
>Takarafags will defend this

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>>5654379
>thinking people won't wait for crystal clear close up in hand reviews first rather than basing everything on some overexposed shit tier grain filled picture

>>5654363
wow what a terrible figoh its takara's version, it looks fantastic

>>5654370
Galvatron's and Blaster's (and by extension Soundwave) are confirmed to hide in alt mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Dz-0nSKm0

I just hope there's a way to keep Galvatron's helmet closer to his face. If that doesn't work, well I hope 3P could at least make a replacement head that'll fit better.

>>5654264
To be safe, I'd try the crest first to see if it truly looks good there, if it does, that's when you decide if you want to extend it to the forehead too or wherever else you might want

>>5654387
No It ain't.

>>5654289
I don't read the IDW comics.

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>>5653993
Also Korea bootleg film and best korea president being fan boy of inferno

>>5654405
>completely wrong head
>completely wrong alt mode

>BUT THE CHEST IS SLIGHTLY FAT AND THE COLOR ISN'T THE RIGHT SHADE, NOT MUH BLAST OFF!

holy shit, I forgot how deluded hasbro fanboys are. I almost hope hasbro releases blast off just so I can see all you fags suddenly backpedal just like you did with groove.

>>5654473
How do I become this bitter about collecting toys for children?

>>5654476
Why would I be bitter about watching poorfags make up excuses for why the western releases are better? It's not bitterness. This is entertaining.

>>5654473
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>>5654387
>>5654372
>>5654365
This is why everyone hates transformers fans. Your all a bunch of insufferable twats.

>>5654473
>slightly fat
This denial...

>>5654473
>right shade
You mean a whole different color than what he is supposed to be?

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Remember, buying plastic toy robots is serious business

>>5654244
>Cliffjumper(who runs into the SD proportions issue.)
They solved the problem pretty well with MP Bee.

>>5654228
Damn, this stuff was so awesome. Even Tailgate, who gets more shit than he deserves. How did we fall so far, so fast?

>>5654516

We didn't, the current crop of Legends from CW was pretty good.

>>5654516
>How did we fall so far, so fast?
What are you talking about? Legends are still pretty high-tier, the only upcoming ones that look iffy are the neo-cassettes. But the recent Legends are pretty fantastic.

>>5654341
Thankyou.gif

>>5654508
>hehe yeah...those takara fans...actually trying to get value out of their money by buying different toys instead of the same shit in different colors..they're just taking the hobby too seriously! that must be it!
>I wonder when that red superion is coming out?

>>5654561
>I like bad figures and because they are different and cost more for less it makes me feel superior

>>5654561
>>5654569
Please stop.

>>5654569
>cost more

They cost equal or less unless you're in burgerland. And they're not bad figures. Brown Slingshot is a bad figure.

>>5654575
>Orange fat guy that doesn't look like blast off is a better blast off than the one that looks more like blast off.

>>5654575
Brown Slingshot is a good figure. Whether it's a proper update is a different story, but from the standpoint of it being a basic toy, its fine.

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>>5654516
When did that happen?

>>5654585
From the standpoint of "I already have this exact same fucking toy in different colors" it's awful. As an update it's even worse.

Just because I like the Generations Springer mold more than most of my figures doesn't mean I want every toy in my collection to be the Generations Springer mold in different colors.

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So, I'm thinking about getting into Beast Wars again after all these years. I only ever had some of the early guys, and just kinda tuned out, but looking back some of these guys look pretty badass.

Been thinking about getting me old Grinny McDrillarms here, but are there any others that are considered "must haves"?

>>5654590
>Just because I like the Generations Springer mold more than most of my figures doesn't mean I want every toy in my collection to be the Generations Springer mold in different colors.
No one was saying this.

>>5653987

No third party release to copy off of.

>>5654590
The nature of combiner wars AND unite warriors means you're still double dipping on things even if you stick to the G1 purist combiners. Its inevitable. Shuttle Blast-off is a better update,but not necessarily the better toy.

>>5654591
Insecticon, Either cybershark, Razorclaw, ultra Optimus Primal,Transmetal Cheetor,Tigerhawk,Big Convoy,to name a few.

>>5654599
>The nature of combiner wars AND unite warriors means you're still double dipping on things even if you stick to the G1 purist combiners

no I'm not. Maybe Hasbrofags are, but every single UW figure except for the black Prime has at least one mold difference. And at most I'm only getting 2 mold reuses. Meanwhile Hasbro is literally 1:1 reusing shit and just changing some colors.

>>5654593
then you should know why Brown Slingshot is a bad toy.

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>>5654228
I freaking love PCC commanders. I've even stopped letting those ugly combiner pegs bother me. Not only did they have the most articulate targetmaster minicons, many of them also had neat alternate heads from the combined mode.

>>5654183

God don't remind me about Horror Monarch that is still my most wanted figure.

The only time scale ever matters with transformers is when the alt mode is tied to roleplaying like Megatron or Shockwave. But seeing as Shockwave is scaled perfectly for this I think HasTak is starting to realize it.

>>5654594
I have read this a couple times over the past few years. Is there any truth or just 3p shitting?

>>5654604
Everyone move on. Hes trolling for the sake of trolling.

>>5654612
Keep sucking that Hascock,hasfag. You will never have good toys,just half assed shit. You are poor. You shop at Wal-Mart. I win. Takara wins.

>>5654613
Is this nigga serious?

>>5654616
You're the one who wants a shit colored repaint of a toy from another team over an actual new mold.

>>5654616
I don't think so. I can't tell.

>>5654334
I'm still angry over how shitty Blast Off looks in robot mode.
Having a Blast Off that could have the turbines hang out of the arm like in FOC was one of the main things I was looking forward for this Bruticus, but at the same time I like to play with my combiner team members individually and Blast Off just looks like ass in robot mode.

I guess I'll try customizing the CW one.

>>5653985
>MT/MMC on suicide watch

>>5654619
Look, Takara Blast Off may be a new mold, but it looks nothing like Blast Off.

Hasbro Blast Off may just be a Cadburry Slingshot, but he looks like the actual character and is leagues cheaper for burgers, which most of us are.

All this yelling and bitching won't make mommy not kick you out of her basement.

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Yall arguing over has vs tak like the money doesnt go to the same belly

Who gives a fuck which mold u or anyone likes

>>5654623
Was FOC Bruticus THAT bad? He looks pretty decent to me desu.

>>5654624
They can still pump out random femmebots to thrive

>>5654627
It was decent at the moment, but it was just so fucking flimsy and thin.

Just so you know, I was talking about the game Bruticus, not the toy, back there. FOC Bruticus using Blast Off's jets as a flamethrower and Vortex's blades as a shield was fucking amazing.

>>5654363
I don't get your comment
I was on the fence on him until these pics came out.
now he's a sure-get

>>5654635
Just got WFC and FOC from the huge steam sale a few weeks ago, also found a WFC Optimus on eBay for cheap. Loving that series atm. Really wish I was in the fandom at the time.

>>5654625
>Hasbro Blast Off may just be a Cadburry Slingshot, but he looks like the actual character

No he doesn't.

Careful not to fall for it.

>>5654654
More than uw Blast off does.

>>5654657
I don't remember when Blast Off was ever Slingshot.

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>>5654644

Just wait until you try Devastation.

>>5654662
I don't remember blast off being fat and orange

>>5654669
No, but he is a space shuttle with a mouthplate and thrusters for feet.

>>5654669
And giant engine clown shoes.

Jesus this Takarafag is retarded.

>>5654671
He was an orange shuttle with arms hanging off the side?

>>5653987
It's a licesensing issue. Porsche considers transformers "War toys" and they won't affiliate with them for an MP.

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>>5653985

At this point I'm ready for them to take another shot at Optimus with this new fully-cartoony aesthetic.

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>>5654683
Yes, he was a space shuttle.

And not Slingshot with ZERO paint app differences.

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>>5653985
Yikes.

>>5654024
Sure, the first few decepticons we have but we dont have:
>decent scale megatron
>Insecticons
>Constructicons
>Blitzwing
>Astrotrain
>Ramjet's other cone head friends
>A reissue of soundwave
>Galvatron
>Scourge
>Cyclonus
>Octane

We have a lot... and desu most decepticons need a reissue too (Mp-11 Skywarp, Soundwave, Thundercracker)

>>5654687
So when was blast off a fat organge robot that had a shuttle mode with limbs hanging off of it?

>>5654691
>yikes
I see nothing wrong. Especially considering you won't see the back of the head in display.

Also glad the kibble folds in the back.

>>5654695
You said it yourself, space shuttle. That's Blast Off.

>>5654696
The kibble just seems a little tall for me. The head situation is fine.

>>5654699
Just push the pin with a small screwdriver, no kibble and no forced "spaceship" mode.

>>5654697
So motor master is optimus? Hot rod is a prime vehicon? I mean if an alt mode is all it takes to try and justify that garbage then everyone is everyone else no matter how much they don't actually look like that character.

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>>5654691
Considering the only other good Voyager Galvatron is Superlink Galvatron/Energon Megatron, the TR is still a good alternative.

Still keeping my Jet-Galvatron though.

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>>5654705
>So motor master is optimus?
Yes, he is. Except they actually made the effort to give him things to differentate him from the other tooling. Unique molded parts. A different layout for paint applications. New accessorries.

Hasbro's Blast Off has NONE of that. It has NOTHING of Blast Off's. It is Slingshot in BROWN. And with the G2 deco, it is Slingshot in WHITE.

>>5654707
I'd go for the TR version if his chest wasn't so weird. It's too big, so he ends up looking goofy. Same goes for the arm cannon.

I'm probably still using my Superlink Galvatron.

>>5654711
>has nothing of blast offs
Yeah okay.

You say that uw blast off is blast off because of his alt mode. That's the one thing that he was in common with what blast off should be.

CW blast off at least has the correct colors. One thing.

Soooo you still have nothing.

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>>5654718
>One thing

Only thing.

>>5654711
I think motor master was designed first. He looks so much more cohesive.

>>5654724
And after everything I pointed out wrong with uw blast off all you can say he actually shares with blast off is one thing. You have zero argument.

>>5654694
well don't expect any 86+ cons for awhile except MAYBE galvy
We got shockwave, and the coneheads can be released whenever, to fill lulls in production.
But you also have to remember, they've done a similar percentage of the 1985 autobots, there were just a lot more of them.
Also, a masterpiece devastator has got to be waaaaay too high a price point to be effective.

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>>5654291
you know what? an MP cheetor would be awesome.

>>5654711
I still wonder how they managed to fuck up Menasors leg transformation. How did no one think "we have to fix this somehow, it looks terrible".

>>5653985
Look at all those smooth surfaces! That's awesome.

>>5654736
So you're just ignoring everything UW Blast Off has to justify your Buyer's Remorse?

It has Blast Off's head. It has his chest design. It has his feet. It turns into a space shuttle. It is not color-swapped version of toy with no other changes beyond that.

Combiner Wars and Unite Warriors is FULL of mold reuse. It is an inevitable fact. I already own Slingshot's mold TWICE now. It needs offer more to convince me to buy it a THIRD time. And Hasbro's offering in that regard does nothing. Rook offers unique tooling compared to Swindle and Hound. Hound doesn't just use Swindle's head. Mirage isn't sporting Drag Strip's.

This is the exact same reason everyone was sore about Betatron: Nobody had a problem with Scattershot. They have a problem with how the Superion parts are unchanged.

Even Alpha Bravo, the most "sod off, here's a wave filler" of the entire line, isn't JUST Vortex unchanged and his own deco.

>>5654755
>lists things that thinks are in common
>none are in common

>>5654755
How high did your mom drop you when you were a baby?

>>5654738
>Also, a masterpiece devastator has got to be waaaaay too high a price point to be effective.

Okay, how about this?

>Take UW Devastator, add typical wrist articulation and opening hands that all MP's have.
>Add better elbows
>Add jointed flaps to cover up hollow chunks
>slightly better plastic
>Profit

MP Devastator done.

>>5654684
I thought that was Volkswagen and Takara was eventually able to convince them to allow MP Bumblebee.

>>5654684

Porsche is owned by Volkswagen though, and they gave out the rights for bumblebee.

>>5654791
>>5654790
Porsche has their own people calling the shots though. Furthermore Porsche is considered their like, high-end stuff so they want to keep the best image they can.

>>5654489
This. A million times this.

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>>5654794
Takara is just working to get the engineering to high enough level they can make show accurate transformable Jazz.

>>5654687
>ZERO paint differences

Are you really that stupid?

>>5654813
>omitting the word app

Are you?

>>5654815
No. You do?

>>5654334
>bruticus's head is metallic
Awesome, I hoped for this
>dat chest plate color scheme
Its subjective, personally more colors the better
>silver painted guns
Yes, yesss

Now to wait for a sale so I can get the UW cheap while seeing if anyone wants an incomplete cw bruticus.

Mine is complete but I want not-blast off

>>5654813
>the face
Look carefully at the face, the placement is different, so are the thighs but those are plastic.

I wanted to defend you but I can't

>>5654801
...they just need to port the engineering from the datsun cars into a porche and have the doors fold down.

That way it would homage the g1 toy which I own, when I got my smokescreen first thought was my g1 jazz

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>>5654755
Fuck the hasbro cucks defending the CW, I'm glad someone feels the same way.

>>5654778
And they'll charge another 10k yen for those little changes, especially the "slightly better plastic", or dare I say more for profit

>>5654691
Oh that's not as bad as I thought. It's only as much back kibble as OG Galvatron.

Probably getting the Takara version for once though because I like that the tank treads on his arms aren't purple

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>>5654839

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>>5654691
Thank fuck, I thought it may of had awkward angles.

But how much does it stick upwards, it could emulate his back pylon with it...shame about the back of the headmaster head but I...guess it can't be excused.

UNLESS THEY CAME UP WITH A MORE ENCLOSED HELMET RATHER THAN A FACE COVER, JESUS

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>>5653985
>>5654000
>>5654003
>>5654006
Is it wrong not to not care about the character but to find the toy of him sexy?

The head, the profile, how can they get it wrong with those proportions, even hot rodimus and shockwave had proportion issues, surely they'll give him red glossy paint right?

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>Ojo con Shockwave MP29 KO, porque lo están ofreciendo a prácticamente el mismo precio que el original.
Apparently there is already a ko of shockwave, I can't see shit so I'm posting what I got

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>>5654853
Maybe its a factory defective one that ended up being nicked from the factory?

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>>5654854
I don't understand shit, was posted via a chink facebook page but they're mexican or...something, I don't know

>>5654839
>another 10k yen on a 20k figure
>that's like $340ish USD
>Divide by 6
>$56.60

That's under $60 amerio-freedo-bux a figure pal. Sounds like a dealeroony to me.

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>>5654856
Its discolored...yay

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>>5654853
>>5654854
>>5654856
>KO Shockwave
I really hope this fucker is cheap. I'll buy one to customize, and one to keep normal. No fucking way am I paying Takara for one of those hollowed out fuckin shockies.

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>>5654858
>nubs
As expected since the ko starscream's have those...on the god damn head.

>>5654861
...in that case why not get one of the third party ones for your normal shockwave?

Even I'm impressed by them, I'm just a transformers cuck to ever touch them...for now, nearly bought mpp10 an hour ago until I saw my bank balance

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>>5654866
>swirls in plastic

Always hated that

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>>5654868
I don't get it but there is a black...mark or hole?

>>5654866
I have a quakeblast coming in the mail. I still want this mold though due to it's cartoony look.

Also I hope this isn't made by the people that made the KO Starscream, that KO is a floppy shitty mess, and far too expensive for a KO. It has huge nubs as well. Those nubs on the shockwave aren't that bad at all. I have official KO's with nubs like that.

>>5654877
official MP's I meant to say.

>>5654877
I...think the issue with the ko starscreamsis in every ebay listing I've seen they're not listed as ko's, as passed off as the real deal at a "steal" of a price.

But there was supposedly improvements to the mold like diecast on the thighs...what the fuck happened to all of that?

>>5654489
He's right though.

>>5654884
Here is a review of it on Youtube. It's trash. Also sirtoys.com has it for $120, same with TF-direct. It's trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDWI4cwzwCo

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>>5654868
i always like swirly patterns in my toys.
made it seem futuristic and then i found out about this stuff, and it made it even more awesome.

>>5654892
now I want a transformer made out of Damascus.

>>5654839
>hasbro cucks defending the CW
And yet you two think uw blast off is good

>>5654869
>>5654866
>>5654861
>>5654858
>>5654868
http://www.tf-direct.com/ko-mp-29-masterpiece-shockwave_p1327.html

$120 for a KO of a figure you can get for a like $20-30 more without swirls, poor QC etc. What a fucking joke. What happened to Takasa Tony? Are they gone now? They made nice KO's. Whoever this new company is clearly wants to sell them off as officials.

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>>5654891
>120
That's fucked, wouldn't mind a bootleg coronation set though
>>5654892
You like swirls on in plastic?
How's this gendum?
>>5654894
Neither is good, but a shit repaint shows a lack of thoughtfulness towards the fans, a new head is all I asked for and they gave us that shit.

UW blast off is hideous, but its got a better head design that isn't slingshot, the fact they tried to homage him in the deco AND design (key note, homage, not show accurate, cw and uw are toys not mp's so some toys end up having odd dimensions, take dead end for example).

I'd rather they try hard rather than hardly try, besides since they're using the same mold for strake in UW computron but with the torso backwards I'll just be displaying my blast off back to front with the limbs twisted to advert the egg shape

>>5654409
And you're a better person for it.

>>5654747
"We just don't care 95% of the time."
-John Warden

>>5654913
>key note, homage, not show accurate, cw and uw are toys not mp's so some toys end up having odd dimensions, take dead end for example
>takara is allowed to make stupid mistakes but Hasbro isnt

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>>5654924
Well I could just post UW war breakdown and its missing paint apps or the fact he's just a simple repaint of another toy without even a new head.

The fact of this matter here is takara TRIED, hasbro didn't, both are horrible abominations, and I'm (about) to own BOTH, but I know which I appreciate.

Its like this my friend, you got a choice between a new pink mustang with my little pony porn on the side or you take your dad's old shitty ford that's known for breaking down with a new coat of paint and no body damage.

You may enjoy your shitty repaint, I'm enjoying him as a new character, but for my blastoff I can do things to him WITHOUT spending a dime that'll help me enjoy him better, as a blastoff

>>5654928
Good day, TFWanon.

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What could takara do to change this deco?

>change forehead on helmet to white
>change helmet design to open face
>change headmaster head-mode face to have a smile
>color headmaster in actual twin cast colors
>change clear part on cassette cover to clear colorless
>make thigh color close to original
>use a darker grey plastic for grey sections
>remove toy detailing present on hasbro version

Any guesses?

>>5654932
Was this the thing you read that makes you think he's from tfw? "Neutral. The updates of the original headmasters look nice, but Hasbro(or more specifically, the new head of the TF team) is blowing half the figure slots on characters who weren't headmasters. It's a thorough mismanagement of the line, and I'm frustrated with that to say the least.

We could be getting a new Nightbeat, Fangry, Horribull, or even IDW Sunstreaker, but instead we're getting Hot Rod, Astrotrain, Sentinel Prime, and so on. Some of these even look terrible as headmasters because their round head silhouettes have a giant block making up the back half. Before you know it the line will transition to another gimmick and we still won't have a complete set of classics headmasters since the line was pumped up with so much filler. They should've just waited a year to start retreading the line's covered ground. "

>>5654741
Easy retool for a Tigatron as well.

>>5654956
No It wouldn't be. Cartoon accuracy means that cure for would be a very skinny cheetah while tigatron has tiger proportions.

>>5654913
I like the shiny effect that the swirly metallic plastic gives.

>>5654950
it's just Hasbro fanboys crying bitch tears because someone isn't praising the company 100%

>>5654308
>Bumblebee veered to realism rather than the chibi Penny racer proportions, but a lot of people couldn't tell the difference anyway.(the biggest thing being the wheels being much bigger in the G1 toy/cartoon).

if you ignore the huge backpack that's not on the animation model, the ugly arm kibble, the oversized clown shoes....

>>5654861

There's nothing hollow about him except for his shins in alt mode you see in the pic, retard.

>>5654983
No. Just a geewunner.

>>5654684
Look, it's that post again. For the last time, fucking imbecile, EVERYONE AND THEIR MOMS, heard about this. Truth is it's nothing but some idiot's speculation.

>>5655002
That was originally volkswagon's excuse for bumblebee's mp despite their history.

Not sure what came off of that after he came out considering the game model in devastation went back to using the generations toy again

>>5655001
Who, you?

>>5655010
Please make sense if you're going to try and stir people up.

>>5655020
Who's the geewunner?

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>>5655022

>>5655027
Please answer the question.

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>>5655029

>>5655030
hm.

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>MP Inferno, based on a cartoon model sheet from one of the worst animation production studios of the 80s and drawn to be simple, is somehow better than a 3P Inferno that has actual details, because "they own the property"

Idiot logic, folks. Shit, with Sunbow quality, I'm surprised they haven't tried to add in actual animation errors to the toys. Shit, if you want to be cartoon-accurate, Inferno can't be done as Grapple, because Grapple was fatter.

>>5655044
Technically they do always win since they make the most money out of it all.

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>>5654987
>if you ignore the huge backpack that's not on the animation model, the ugly arm kibble, the oversized clown shoes....

Prowl also doesn't have a small, compressed chest and no back kibble and bigger feet than the animation model. It's a physical object. What do you want, magic?

>>5654513
It worked for MP Bumblebee because a VW Bug is actually similiar shape to the look of the SD car/cartoon car.

Cliffjumper is a Porsche. Something that is absolutely nothing like the shape of the toy/cartoon car.

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>>5655044
Seems pointless to buy 3rd party MPs when the reason people buy them is to fit in witht heir MP collection. naturally the official release would fit in better than a 3P. To be honest I feel the same way about most 3P stuff. I actually think a lot of it looks great, but it most don't really it in with official existing toys.

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Brainstorm came in the mail today - and this is one SEXY figure, man.

>dat articulation
>dat colour
>dat Headmaster gimmick

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Oh, and the altmode. The ALTMODE. Combiner Wars more like Lylat Wars, right?

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Sadly, my Arcana has the figure's infamous QC issue of the paint rubbing off him way too easily.
But you know what? With the 80s-as-hell shade of teal I can live with it. He feels like a much older toy than he actually is.

Oh, and his head isn't floppy and doesn't get stuck in the socket. That's a plus.

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>>5655044
Well for a start as bad as the animation is you don't take it literally, they have a basic blueprint to follow from the design board, what happens in motion is another story, you....wouldn't jump off a cliff just because anyone would of told you too now would you?

Secondly there is such thing as "too much" detail, alot of third party toys tend to over stylize their toys, some look amazing (the shockwave ones and aplyon for example) while some just look like shit (most of the third party combiners that aren't just addon kits), its subjective, but some people find better attachment with something simpler, otherwise bandai would of lost their battles with third party companies ripping some of their designs and even the bootleggers who've been ADDING detail to existing model kits.

Finally, loyalist, some can't stand "unauthorized" products and no matter how awesome they may look (which is again, subjective) and would rather spend it on a company they know, trust (not that even takara themselves is innocent though 3p's quality can vary heavily) and prefer.

Enjoy what you like and let other's enjoy what they like, another man's trash is another man's treasure, this also goes towards people who can't stand over priced mp's in comparison to the ACTUAL toy lines like cw rid2015 etc

>>5655064
>>5655065
>>5655069

Love the figure, still a bit strange to me that we're getting a deluxe of him in Titans Return, the voyager is so good.

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>>5655060
That would interesting, to see a Cliffjumper that goes from a real world-esque Porsche into a condensed cartoon accurate cliffjumper, they sort of threw themselves into a corner by licensing the altmodes.

>>5655074
Brainstorm is one of those iconic Headmasters. I think it would be a little strange not to have him.

Plus MTMTE is still as popular as an ice cream in July, so it's not a surprise that a lot of the cast are getting figures in TR.

>>5655074
It's so he can interact with the new ports, plus, the new one is a half assed remold of Blurr, so the Voyager's worth keeping.

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>Generations Brainstorm can fold his legs up and have his nosecone where his legs are supposed to be in robot mode
>wasn't retooled into Jetstorm with a little BW Megatron Headmaster

fire everyone at Hasbro
fire everyone at BotCon
fire everyone

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>>5655082
According to the last BotCon panel, one of the planned exclusives for this year before they switched to Combiner Wars was an extensive remold of Generations Armada starscream as Jetstorm.

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>>5654913
>swirly metallic plastic AND translucent plastic

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So I'm not a big fan of Brainstorm's underwing kibble and I just came up with a bit of a jury-rigged solution.

>turn the arms joints to face upwards
>the arm stubs are now engines
>your Brainstorm is now a little less Arwing and a little more Gradius

>>5654987
He meant in car mode, genius.

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>>5655061
I always forget Inferno is like Grimlock in that he had an early head design that got replaced by the good one later.

The head sculpt of MP Inferno was my biggest worry, and I'm glad it's going to be using the more toy-based refined head from the good animated episodes.

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>ko's still happening despite shift in countries
>quality on newer ko's are going back to shit tatus

Must be a leaker in the RnD team or something, shit shouldn't be happening still.

Just seen a review of ko starscream and christ, well if anyone is crazy enough to get one please sell me the crown and cape, its the ONLY good thing with that ko.

And the upcoming (or already out) ko shockwave looks worrisome

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>>5655122
>tfw most of the Transformers I buy are too cheap to warrant KOs
It's an abstract kind of feel

>>5655006
>That was originally volkswagon's excuse
No, it never was. Search for an official declaration, you won't find any.

>>5655061
Unless Takara tells us "we're gonna make everyone" it's not pointless at all.

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>>5655126
Let me guess, cw?

Those have been made already, the issue is WHEN are they leaving china, I posted them already.

Pic related, why they retooled it into iron man I don't know but the cw knock offs are abstract repaints, good for original combiners and customs provided we get seeker heads somehow

>>5655130
Toy companies don't really put out official declarations for the reasons why the cancel toys before they even hit the early stages. We have fragments of a second-hand statement said at Botcon, which is the best we're gonna get.

>>5655135
Not that guy but I'd be totally ok with more Rook remolds/recolors/retolls

>>5655138
>the best we're gonna get is something heard by some nobody we should trust just because
Yeah, no. He made it up. Jazz will happen. Officially licenced Porsche Jazz, just like we got Bumblebee which was also impossible because of muh imaginary world war stigmatas the same idiot made up.

>>5655139
I can't find it currently but they had an outright defensor duplicate with the only hint of it being a ko being the "hotspot" tampos on both of defensor's thighs.

They shown off an "army" variant of rook, dark blue but said army on it.

I have no idea why its taken so long, but I've always felt a bootleg of the cw line would be a great idea considering how cheap they play and feel, the real question is would the combiner pegs and plastic be enough to survive supporting a full gestalt?

No good an all seeker home made combiner if he shatters quicker than shattered glass's appeal

>>5655143
I'm sure it will happen eventually since VW eventually recanted. It's been a decade since then and things and more importantly, executives, change. I'm just saying there's certain things you have to take on merit. I've been collecting this stuff for ages, I was paying attention to all the news and info coming out back when alternators was still new; multiple people said VW Bumblebee was nixed because of the "war toys" issue.

>>5655149
You weren't the only one back then but you obviously didn't learn a thing during all these years. People parrot hearsay all the time like it's fact when it's actually nothing but some stating bullshit just because. The same attention whores are still doing it and the same idiots keep parroting them. I mean just look at all the Beast Wars MPs we're getting, Primal was definitely not an offshoot! And those Meg v2 and Galvatron, how awesome it is to have them just like -everyone in the know- told us.

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>TransFes 2016 rumours, MP Cheetor in the making?
No proof, but is this what we wanted?

>>5655166
Not what I wanted.

>>5655166

We were lucky to get gen rhinox and rattrap. Can't say it won't ever happen but there's zero reason to believe an mp cheetor is in the making considering Primal was only the result of a poll.

Hopefully if they do make one it'll be in a future where they can do better than Primal. Cheetor has a pretty friendly transformation for a toy but given the way takara approached Primal's beast mode Cheetor would be even more of a brick.

>>5655173
But Star Saber was the result of a poll.

Primal had nothing to do with that.

>>5655177

Primal was on the same poll.

>>5655166
Its not Dinobot, which I think is the most requested thing but it's fine. MP season 1 Megatron would be cool, but I wouldn't be thrilled about it; he has better designs. Cheetor is sort of the Datsun of the BW figures; its got a ton of repaint potential, and is an iconic design.

>>5655173
>>5655178

Primal also ranked way down in the middle of that poll. The MP Primal isn't a result of that; otherwise they'd be doing Armada MPs because Armada Optimus came in second. Takara just really likes Beast Wars.

>>5655166

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68FunFCQ0jQ

With Gutgun? Yes please!

>>5655181
>Takara just really likes Beast Wars.

Well I'm glad somebody does.

>>5655185
Will he be pronounced like cheater, or cheat-tor?

>>5655170
Congratulations

>>5655194
What?

Fuck Cheetor, I want Masterpiece Tarantulas

>>5655217
Fuck Tarantulas, I want Masterpiece Megatron

>>5655220
Only if the toys has electronics, as you push a button and it says "yeeees"

>>5655224
That's honestly all it would need to say.

>>5655224
...but these are made by takara, what does the japanese version say?

I want this believe me, but no way they'd give us both the yesssss and whatever the japanese one does

>>5655181

I'd say it's a result of the poll results and it being anniversary time.

>>5655235
More like anniversary and being a good guy leader is why, being ranked in the middle doesn't assure his status.

Lets face it, sooner or later every autobot leader will get an mp, their upgraded forms are another matter

>>5655240

I'd love some beast wars mps but I know even takara gives fuck all about the transmetal designs which is what I really want.

>>5655244
Good, the original designs were superior. Transmetals were shit.

>>5655251

K.

>>5655235

But he barely got any votes in the poll. After the first 3 there's a huge drop in votes.

1. Star Saber (Transformers Victory) – 31.2%
2. Convoy (Micron Legend) / Transformers Armada Optimus Prime – 24.3%
3. Super Ginrai (Chojin Masterforce) / Powermaster Optimus Prime (Generation 1) – 18.6%
4. Dai Atlas (Transformer Zone) – 8.0%
5. Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots) / Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime – 4.9%
6. Beast Convoy / Beast Wars Optimus Primal – 4.6%
7. Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force) / Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime – 2.5%
8. Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo) – 2.1%
9. Lio Convoy (Beast Wars Second) – 2.0%
10. Grand Convoy (Transformers Super Link) / Transformers Energon Optimus Prime – 1.5%
11. Fortress Maximus (Generation 1 / The Headmasters) – 0.3%

>>5655251

TM Megatron is leagues better than the orginal. Same with Tarantulas, Dinobot, Rattrap and literally everyone I can think of except Primal.

>>5655251
Megatron and Tarantulas' were improvements, though. The Maximals, yeah, didn't fair as well. Rattrap is an either-or situation, his Transmetal beast/transportation mode is memorable, but his robot mode is about the same as his first in terms of quality. Cheetor loses the cool head-chest, but otherwise felt like a natural change(his TMII self is hideous, though). Primal was a huge downgrade in his first TM form. If Optimal Optimus kept his saeson 1 colors, he would've been perfect.

>>5655244

Yeah. Mp versions of Primal and Megatron (Yessssss.) would be boss as hell.

>>5655266

I love the generations designs especially Rattrap's except for the weird feet. Toy -> show -> back to toy seems like the perfect design process.

>>5655166
I can totally go for a new Cheetor. We need a representation that has a good bot and beast mode. Universe had a shit bot mode, BW had a shit beast mode

>>5655229
>what does the japanese version say?
あなたはホモです。

>new "takasa tomy" ko maker is shit
>i'll never get a good ko of ironhide now
Sigh

>>5655322
save up 70 bucks you fucking cheap nigger.

>>5655322
>good
>ko

Pick one

>>5655258
>Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots) / Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime

Why even bother putting this guy in? He's nearly perfect. At best you could add a bit more arituclationg, and slight better armor connections, but it's really not that necessary.

>>5655347
Ah, but what about Omega Prime?

>>5655347

The visible head in the back always bugged me.

>>5655348
Ultra Magnus/God Magnus could use an update.

>>5655351
But would you pay MP prices just to cover that up? It's not like it's guaranteed, since Star Saber still had his visible helmet in the MP design.

>>5655347
Same with Primal, Galaxy Convoy, Lio Convoy and Big Convoy. They all had at least one pretty much perfect figure already.

>>5655368

The base convoy would have to be fucking amazing but if they ever make one I hope they'll take care to make the siren button work better. Can't tell you how many times I accidentally hit that thing while transforming him spurring my cat to tear ass across the house at 3am.

>>5655372
-Primal's MP is trying to bring him closer to the CGI model, but yeah, it's not that necessary if you're satisfied with his updated toy from a decade ago, or the robot masters
-Lio Convoy needs an update
-Agreed with Big Convoy
-Galaxy Convoy is close, but could probably improve him a bit to make it more accurate to the CGI model.

>>5655374
>OPTIMUS PRIME- MAXIMIZE
>AUTOBOTS- TRANSFORM!
>*siren sounds*

>>5655382
All of them could be improved but they're definitely less in need of an MP update than the G1 bricks.

>>5655390

Around 3 out of 4 times the siren would be the first one too.

Come to think of it I can't think of a more annoying quirk except for OptOp's neck missile that makes you pull the same tab to both light up and shoot so you were guaranteed to shoot yourself in the face at least once owning the toy.

Whoever designed that was a troll of the highest order. That was straight Caligula shit.

>>5655322
Takasa Tony isn't doing the shockwaves or starscreams. The last KO they made was of tracks, it came out last week. They will make an ironhide soon.

>>5655516
Mine's like near-complete (still need the elusive wheel gun) but I've never fired the missiles off for some reason.

>>5655533
Oh, I see. Good to know.

>>5655550
they have to make road rage, hot rod, and then Iron Hide should be coming up next.

>>5655135

I got to buy that fucking Iron Man Jetfire.

There's also an oversized bootleg of Age of Extinction Galvatron that turns into Captain America.

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>>5655599
Don't forget rescue hound!

...ok ok this is shit

>>5655618

Where the heck does the ladder go in robot mode?

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>>5655599
I still don't get the appeal of this one but hay, C.A fan's might get a kick out of him

>>5655619
dunno, where the sun don't shine?

Which G1 Autobot car toy is the best?

>>5655654
I can't pick one from the cars themselves, though I always loved fiddling with Dead End, but for me the best G1 'toy' was Devastator, as a whole.

There was always something magically lovable about the constructicons, they oozed personality, their combined mode was fucking awesome even if it's an 80's brick to a god damn T, the fact they genuinely make a little 6-part play set of construction vehicles with at least some functionality in each one [long haul's bucket tipping takes his wheels with it, but still].

I loved G1 Devastator, man.

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The flatness of this design is pushing MP into a pop art territory that's really doing it for me.

>>5655683
Yeah, I feel its a little too close to the cartoon, such as thing as 'too much of a good thing' and all. Hopefully some decals and paint apps will spruce it up a good bit, Maybe they'll go two-tone on the reds or something.

>>5655618
Dude thats awesome.

>>5655669
Those aren't Autobots m8

>>5655683
Is the designer allergic to line details or what?

>>5655683
fairly confident I'll skip this MP for a 3rd party... he's too bland, and those hips could birth a moose.

>>5655750
>>5655669
Yeah. Thanks for the suggestions anon, but I'm specifically looking for toys released under the "Autobot cars" line. You know, the Diaclone "Car Robots" subline.

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So /toy/, just ordered pic related.
What I am in for?

>>5655853
Fishing.

>>5655853
A Hot Rod figure.

>>5655853
What a deluxe transformer would feel like without a sliding economy

>>5655087

it pisses me off that didn't happen.

that would have legit been amazing....then again it is FunPub. they could have ruined a brilliant idea.

>>5655618

holy shit, I like it.

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>>5655654
Tracks because flight mode.

I get why it's not done, but I wish MPs were in sold on shelves at places like wal Mart, target, etc.

Waiting on TR I'm just seeing all CW retools and RID figures I either have or dont want and it's getting old as fuck.

When are we supposed to get the new weapon minicons?

>>5656139
>>5656139
>>5656139

New thread.

>>5654694
>Based Octane

>>5655683
I hate that they're moving away from the "cross between cartoon and toy aesthetic". If I wanted them to be identical to their cartoon models, I'd buy those stupid statues that don't transform.