/biog/ - Bionicle and CCBS General: Apocalypse Now

Some of the summer set reviews are out.

Opinions?

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>>5653085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYx94mGDm24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLZKjjcvIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkw9XdcDu0g

links

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Anyone having any experience with the pieces of the Knight's Kingdom figures?
I'm curious about how the visors attach to the heads, if they work with any other pieces and also what connection points the shin and shoulder armor pieces have.

>>5653128
The 2006 helmets all have an axle hole at the tip on the back, so you can attach those ones to other stuff through that. Otherwise the main connection literally only works with the Knight's Kingdom heads.

The shin pieces in 2005 and shoulder pieces in 2005 and 2006 attach via peg, but the shin pieces in 2006 attach like a lego brick.

>>5653145
Alright, thanks!
Definitely going to CrackLink some of the speckled armor pieces then. Shame about the helmets, though.

>>5653091
I get what they're trying to do with the beast jaws and the uppercutting-your-face-off trigger, but it hardly seems worth the drawbacks. Hopefully there'll be some good way to mod the head so the jaw opens and closes normally.
Ekimu looks pretty glorious under bright lighting.

I can't help but wonder what the sets for next year will be like. In particular, What will become of the Toa and Creatures? Will the creatures fuck off back to their elemental regions to repair this year's damage? Will the stay with the Toa, and be upgraded alongside them? Or will the two possibly merge together? Although I would think that would violate the "United, but not One" tagline. For that matter, if the creatures disappear, what will next year's small sets be, if the pattern of six toa and six small sets continues? Thoughts, anyone?

>>5653187
>Hopefully there'll be some good way to mod the head so the jaw opens and closes normally.
I'd rather have the jaws permanently closed than permanently open, and I'm wondering if you could flip the jaw for a faux-"closed" look.

You make a good point, though. Some articulation would be nice.

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Squat...

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n' oats

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>>5653187
I started work on this design more or less the day the beasts were first shown at toy-fair and it was obvious their jaws couldnt move. This mostly just works for lava beast due to how the horns mask the ugly sticking out part, and I cant be SURE it will work because I dont have the actual set, but this looks plausible and can be made with fairly easy to get pieces. (all but two of the required pieces can be found in Ikir and there is a way to reconfigure this to use only pieces from Ikir (though doing so lacks the double joint for the jaw I have here which is done because I highly doubt the jaw will line up in a close position on its own.)

If there is some obvious reason this wont work, let me know.

>>5653250
>>5653262
I'm getting major L-Gaim vibes.

>>5653192
Whetever the line continues beyond the next winter wave I doubt we we will get as many sets as this year.

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>>5653128
>>5653145

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>>5653192
>Toa are missing; trapped by Makuta
>minions are the small sets
>creatures are the big, Toa-sized ones

>Toa are the summer sets + Makuta

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Such promise. Such disappointing result.

http://vahki6.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>5653403
Are you kidding?
That's a really impressive cosplay.

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>>5653418
Not him, but the final product looks fucking disgusting.

>>5653425
He looks like somebody skinned a Ninja Turtle.

>>5653425
I mean, i can see where it could be better but its looks pretty good to me at least. Especially the subtle detail in the mouth to make it look more accurate to the animated versions.

>>5653425
The armor looks too flat. It wouldn't be too late to fix that as you just need some padding under it.

Is there any way to make Ketar's unity-piece not wobbly as fuck?

So /biog/, what are the sets you've regret buying the most?

Mine are pretty much all the Av-toran/Agori sets.

>>5653574
Toa Phantoka/Mistika

bizarre designs + super simplified build * fragile joints /2 Toa being redundant due to vehicle sets = FUCK.

>>5652695
An example of the gimmick eating the set. I'd really like to see some arm and leg fixes...and a General jaw mod.

>>5651464
Ekimu looks great, but the redundant second gearbox confuses me.
Lava Beast just seems...very plain. like...he had the least thought put into him and was just sorta shoe-horned.

let's see how Quake Beast manages to fuck up and if the second Umarak set is worth keeping on its own, or if it should be combined with the first Umarak to make a perfect set, much like Kulta and LoSS

>>5653583
I like to see the waist gearbox as just a waist swivel - another point of articulation - more than a gearbox. After all, it's pretty damn tight.

>>5653574
Ehlek and Hahli Mahri
I sometimes look at my Skull Squad in disappointment but at least Scorpio has a cool function and doesn't CRUMBLE INTO DUST

>>5653587
True. maybe I'll just build Ekimu's waist with a smaller bar so there's no gear to get in the way.

as for the fixes...more gold armor, more Clear Blue bones...

and I'm flip-flopping on whether or not to keep the torso shell it comes with, or use a Chima Gold torso with a Blue Zamor. I saw it done on tumblr and it looked damned good.

>>5653589
Hahli Mahri was cool as fuck though. The only issue were her fragile joints.

Are the beasts worse than Hordika/Visorak?

>>5653574
Tarakava, but not because of the set itself. Like ten years ago I found a store that had older sets: Jaller & Gukko, Nui-Jaga, a bunch of collectible packs, 2004 canisters (which I already had), and the Tarakava.

Years later, they still sold Tarakava but not any of the others. I could have held off buying them to get the rest, then purchase them later.

It's a great set, though.

>>5653633
not at all, hell they are better than then quite a few waves, like 2003 wave 1, all of 2005, 2006 wave 1, and 2015 wave 2

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man. I missed out on the best sale my local Walmart will probably ever have.

1 Umarak: $15
1 Tahu 15 and a bunch of Tahu 16s: $15
Skull Slicers: $10
Kopaka/Melums: $20
Protector of Stones: $5

fug. I wish I had my paycheck. I could totally use Tahu 15's parts on 16, and Umarak's just a parts-pack that keeps on giving.

kinda wish their Onua 16s were on sale though.

>>5653425
Everyone's a critic. Could you do better?

>>5653721
I don't know about that. The Piraka were pretty ace, and the skeletons were not nearly as bad as people made them out to be (honestly only Skull Slicer was even close to bad).

>>5653801
Even then, I would argue Warrior was the worst set of the bunch for being rather bland and unappealing....but you're supposed to Armybuild them, so of course they're not going to be very distinct.

>>5653799
Maybe. It'd probably take me a lot longer than he got that done in, but I definitely wouldn't post it on the internet or wear it to a con before it looked better than that.

There are a few people bitching about a certain set or some shit being a store exclusive? What's that about?

>>5653872
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=85312556&cp=2255956.2273442.2255962.3696486.3686922&parentPage=family

Did they dun goofed or not is the question.

>>5653881
Eh...It might be a problem for some, completionists for sure, if there isn't a Toys R Us nearby, but if people want the set bad enough they can still order online.

>>5653881
>>5653887
To be fair, it's not like many Targets stocked the entire Winter Wave, and I guess Walmart just didn't like that set.

It'll still show up at LEGO stores, so in the end I still get VIP points.

>>5653887
I don't really care if SB is an exclusive or not and don't actually believe it is.

But if this is the way they want to start handling the sales with regular sets it tells an awful lot of how bad the sales are.

>>5653896
I was honestly expecting Quake Beast to be the "exclusive" since retailers usually want red/blue-tone pairings, or even Umarak since he's the "flagship set" for the summer wave (i.e. he's the most expensive one).

I'd be surprised if Year 3 gets even close to as much effort Year 2 got, in the chance LEGO doesn't drop it suddenly because of sales.

>>5653799
Not an argument

>>5653904
The thing is that TRU doesn't even have a page for Quake Beast.

Would be nuts to think that a site like TRU wouldn't have it.

>>5653947
What are the chances Quake Beast becomes the Target or Walmart "exclusive"

>>5653192
In the winter wave, I'd like 6 Normal size sets, 6 small sets, and maybe 1 titan set
In the summer wave, I'd like 6 normal size sets, and 2 titans.

You know, like good old bonkle had.

Just picked up Lewa + Uxar.

Quick, someone post the Lewa shoulder fix!

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Notice how they are making less and less sets each year

>>5654138
Fuck which one was 14? LoSS?

>>5654142
Tahu's trans white mask

>>5654142
Err. I think that's the NYCC mask, right? That was the only Bonkle item distributed in '14.

>>5654138
You can't seriously be counting special event masks as ACTUAL sets, right? That's not fair.

>>5653266
Not gonna lie, I've never seen that before, and it looks a LOT like what I imagined my mech to look like.

so with the 2016 sets...I gotta think of how I'm gonna build a Voriki that better reflects the new build...

the weapon's gonna be the hard part, since '15's Energy Spear was as simple as it gets due to limited parts...this time, I gotta do something...less shit. also, get that shapeways mask. no excuse not to use it now.

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>>5654433
Give it a try sometime. The subs are bad for the first half, sadly, which sucks some of the enjoyment out of it, and the ending is very odd.

You may or may not also like the Five Star Stories, by the same fellow who designed the Heavy Metals for L-Gaim.

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Heavy Metals gave way to the Mortar Headds
This was followed by the Gothicmades but this didn't go down as well.

>>5654138
Bait.

>>5654602
>>5654610
Loving these designs, ty.

>>5654621
It's nothing. Torrent L-Gaim and FSS, maybe see if you like 'em, and then hassle /m/ if something doesn't make sense.

You could also check desustorage for some of the older Nagano threads. I enjoyed L-Gaim, I've yet to delve into FSS.

>>5654596
SHOW ME THE WAY TO YOU
LEAD ME NOW WHERE YOU ARE

>>5654675
IMA
IMA
KAKEN UKERO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYaXGbiZpxE

>>5653425
>feels bad man

>>5653627
Exactly. There's no point saying something's cool as fuck when it disintegrates like that.

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Some time ago in another thread an anon thought it would be cool to have a figure that's covered in masks or something like that, so here's Makuta the Masked Calamity.

Why is the movie edition kraahkan so expensive? It was just a bonus with the takutanuva two-pack.

>>5654945
Gee, a bonus exclusive thing in a limited set not many people bought? I sure wonder.

>>5653574
All of 2008 other than Icarax and Pohatu. I don't know why I like Pohatu. He grew on me for some reason. The Mistika are awful though. Bitil is the only one I don't hate.

>>5654138
What the hell happened in 2006? Were there that many polybags?

>>5654899
The hands and feet are a bit dodgy, but I like it.

>>5654900
>>5654899
needs more gold and purple, scrap it and try again

>>5653091
Were they even trying with Storm Beast's arms? So much is wrong with them. Why are his shins built like that anyway? Wouldn't it be easier to use a CCBS bone?

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I tried to fix Storm Beast's limbs. I don't know what they were going for with the lower legs, but I assume it was similar to Lava Beast. You could replace the wing piece with a crystal blade and the fingers with the Skull Spider legs. I couldn't get them to fit onto the bars in LDD, so I made my own fingers.

>>5654985
maybe something instead of a wing that looks like an ice pickle?

>>5655071
Nice. I'd have changed the thumb and simplified the neck, but this is good. I'll get back onto LDD when the Quake Beast review comes out.

>>5654988
>an ice pickle

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Inspiration struck at last

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>>5655080
no need, here's the base

>>5655105
She's adorable.

>>5655154
The only thing that truly looks like shit on Quake Beast is the assembly atop that green circle piece. Slap one of Korgot's 'drill' pieces on there instead of a mess of spikes and shells and it'll look a lot better

>>5655154
That is a weird build. Is that how the drill is connected? The more I look at the arms, the less I like them. The clawed arm has a weak shoulder connection and the thumb should have used a T-bar. The other arm should have had a shorter upper arm bone, a lot like Storm Beast. The spinning eye blades should have been the geared action feature rather than the shoulder. When are we getting the rest of the G2 parts in LDD? Having the brainstalk on its own is pointless.

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>>5655175
Quake beast is a strange model. It kind of feels like the designers had a bunch of ideas and just kind of squashed them all into one set. And what the fuck is up with the shoulder blades? They don't appear to be functional, but they don't look good aesthetically, so why are they even there? Such a strange design choice.

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Okay, dicking around with the Knight's Kingdom parts that just got delivered I come to the following conclusion:

We need fucking Nexo Knights figures.

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>>5655192
The blades are obviously just there to poke holes into the box.

>>5655192
>what the fuck is up with the shoulder blades?

The only reason for them to be there that I can see is so the can become a pair of fingers for the UtD combiner.

Otherwise, even their alignment on QB is awkward.
I tried to build the model once with actual bricks and rotating the blades by 90° so that they point backwards when put in a neutral pose made it look way better.

>>5655198
we absolutely do need to get Nexo Knight CCBS sets. I would KILL for some CCBS sets that used some armor-plating like the Knights Kingdom sets had....with less awkward connection points of course.

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>>5654151
>trans-white

>>5655198
This. Hell, I'd be fine with Ninjago CCBS if it means getting more red shells. Bionicle keeps using gold and trans neon orange for their fire sets.

>>5654954
6 Toa/Piraka/Matoran.
4 playsets.
4 titans.
2 combiners.
2 parts bins.
10 good/bad guys and some other polybags.
Several combo packs with two or more normal sets.

>tfw swapped Pohatu's trans-neon and silver shells with dark orange ones

It's amazing that such a simple change can make the world of difference.

And how the hell am I supposed to pose Ketar on his back? I wrapped his legs around the torso and pointed the blades downwards so they look like wings of sort

>>5655265
Kids don't like brown because it reminds them of shit and niggers.

And the uniter version added piss

>>5655214
Trans-yellow :^3

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>>5655265
>And how the hell am I supposed to pose Ketar on his back?

like this

>>5654138
>counts the Tahu mask, villain pack, and hero pack for 2015
>excludes Gali mask
>excludes that weird cloth polybag for 2016

Yeah nah, aside from promo shit, it looks like LEGO's giving us the same amount of sets every year.

>>5655200
While the others just need fixes.
I don't think anything less than a complete overhaul can fix Quake.

>>5655305
It does count both Gali mask and Accessory pack, and Tahu-mask is listed for 2014

>tfw tempted to buy Villain Pack for 7€+shipping

Should I pull the trigger? I only truly want the mask. I can't fit the stand in my mask-display.

And even then I kinda want to just give the mask to Kulta.

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Are the new sets out in america yet?

>>5655333
If you're lucky and manage to order from TRU when they accidentally put them up for five minutes, then yes.

Otherwise no. Be patient, faggot.

>Last year's summer wave came out in August
>This year's summer wave is coming out in June
>People are still scrambling to get them as early as possible
Guys chill.

>>5655198
that looks fucking excellent

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>>5655198
>CCBS mechs that are minifigure compatable
Sign me the FUCK up.

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>>5655352

>>5655352
So, Invasion from Below? They just need new cockpits.

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>>5655354

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>>5655358
Purple Dave's MOC ideas were the bomb, it's a shame he fell off the grid. I still have no idea exactly what went down there.

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>>5655265
Like this

What's your opinion on bonkles with clothes? Not just capes, but full on outfits.
Can it work or should they stick to just armor?

>>5655385
Depends. I'm personally ready to drown Kopaka in fur but not so much with the others.

>>5655385
I'm not one for robots with clothes, it just doesn't make any sense. Armor is fine.

>>5655452
Robots with muscle tissue.
Armor does a shit job at protecting from cold for example.

>>5655071
what program is it?

>>5654976
Yeah I'm probably going to change his arms (and neck but that's unrelated), but the parts probably went toward the torso insanity that looks like it'll be awesome to build. The legs are for simple build diversity, which is nice for kids.

>>5655071
I cannot think of a single reason they did not armour the back like that for.

OFFICIAL SUMMER POWER RANKING LIST:

Lava Beast > Umarak the Destroyer > Ekimu > Storm Beast > POWER GAP > Quake Beast

>>5655200
If nothing else, it's a cool box

>>5655265
Like this >>5655291, but you can point Ketar's front legs forward.

Also base Pohatu 2016 is better than any mod, fight me.

>>5655543
Power gap is before Storm Beast.
They are almost equally worse.

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>>5655473
LDD.

>>5655543
Lava Beast > Umarak the Destroyer > Ekimu >>>>>>>> Storm Beast = Quake Beast
Fixed.

>>5655563
Excellent job, anon.

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>>5655551
>Also base Pohatu 2016 is better than any mod, fight me.
I'll only respect your opinion if you think that the random stud on top of the ball's chain is stupid.

>>5655607
I always thought /biog/ had a shit taste yet this place is almost spammed with JJBA.

>>5655674
/biog/ has been turning to shit for the past few months.

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>>5655551
the arms on base Pohatu '16 are horrible. likewise with Lewa '16's legs.

>>5655361
That actually looks excellent. God dammit, Lego.

>>5655674
Can you rephrase this?

Does /biog/ have shit taste in general or /biog/ has shit taste because people in here spam JoJo pics?

Either way, I'd agree.

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Bought this today along with M-tron's particle ionizer at a yard sale. Got this one for eighteen dollaroos. Today was a good day.

>>5655882
>eighteen dollaroos
>Jetrax
Join the Dark Hunters anon.

>>5655882

Post the M-tron set pic.

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>>5655891
>>5655858
Posted it in the /lego/ thread, here ya go

>>5655950

Huh. So that's what it felt to be amazed back in the 80s. Your finds are beatyful. Complete sets, no apparent damage or pieces missing...Whoever used to own those really cared. I feel bad for the guy.

>>5655912

Btw. Is that you, cafe?

>>5655958
Yeah, despite my shitty picture, all the prints and parts are in great condition. The only issue was that it came disassembled, so I was worried there would be missing pieces, but turns out the only missing parts were the two 2x2 slopes on the cargo, which were easily replaceable.

>>5655692
Your MOC's worse, the arms on the base one really are fine

>>5655607
Considering it's one piece, I would have to say I don't really care

with most everything Winter 2016 being on clearance, which set would make the best parts-pack for MoCs?

especially considering making a Takanuva or possibly one of the Toa Hagah,

>>5656031
That's a load of shit there, anon. those arms fall off all the damned time. they're not built well, unlike Kopaka.

>>5655305
dude, fuck no. Remember back in 2008? We had like a shit ton on sets. Takanuva, Toa Ignika, 6 Makuta, 6 Toa, and even all those fucking vehicles.

They are making less sets than before, and this is fucking clear as light of day.

>>5656073
I meant for G2's run, dingus.

Winter
>6 small
>6 large
>one villain

Summer
>4 large
>1 titan/doublepack

Aside from LEGO combining Kopaka and Melum into a doublepack set, the formula held up for 2016. Chances are, 2017 will also follow the same pattern.

>>5656088
except that it should be 6 fucking large sets, not 4. So still less sets.

>>5656100
2015
>Scorpio
>Slicer
>Warrior
>Basher

>Kulta+Ekimu

4 large, one extra large, 5 in total

2016
>Lava
>Storm
>Quake
>Ekimu

>Umarak

4 large, 1 extra large, 5 in total

Umarak trumps Kulta size wise even in comparison to Kulta's combo model.

Regardless of the ratio of heroes to villains, set wise it's the same fucking thing. Stop comparing it to G1, that was a totally separate run with years spanning in between them. If anything, you should compare this shit to Hero Factory, as this line is a direct follow-up to it.

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Is it wrong to use to pins as gears?
It's really only Lego's fault for not introducing many compatible gears without axle-hole in the middle.

The purple crystal part spins into the direction you spin the gear but the green spikes go the opposite.

>>5656303
what's the fucking point of spinning the crystal.
This is so dumb and makes no fucking sense. That's why Protector of Earth was the worst protector.

>>5656303
Use the pins that have a small ball-joint style bit at the end instead of the ones with an axle end, that should make it more "legal"

>>5656303
Wouldn't the technic connector bar get blocked by the knobbed gears?

>>5656384
I actually tried it and it works because it isn't put as close as your regular knob gear.

>>5656303
Fucking. Genius. Great job Anon.

>>5656303
What does all of this actually accomplish? I can't really figure it out. Doesn't twisting the gear at the back spin the front part anyway? What's the point of the additional gears?

>>5656337
Uh. What? You know drills don't have to be cone shaped to work properly, right?

>>5656450
The additional gears make it so that the big part with the green bohrok eyes spins to the other direction.
It just looks cool.

S-so anyone have any cool mod ideas to make UtD's proportions look better?

Ok here's a question for you /biog/: how would you improve the current storyline?

The existing characters and basic plot structure have to stay, but you are allowed to elaborate and expand as much as you wish.

>>5656666
Checked.

>>5656666
Honestly the framework for the storyline is pretty solid in concept. I just want some more elaboration and quicker answers to questions that immediately surround the current plot.

I never thought I'd see the day where I actually wished for Greg levels of pointless lore detail. Maybe a happy medium would be nice.

>>5656666
The plot does have potential. I choose to believe that Lego is able to flesh it out into something great.

Although, villanous scheming in G2 could use some work. Maybe not as complicated and drawn-out as Teridax's plan, but I want something more than generic "bad guy takes over world."

>>5656666
Backstory and details, backstory and details. Short stories about other squads of protectors, the origin of the Skull Villains, a glance into the lives of Skull Slicer, Skull Basher, and Kulta in their glory days. The day to day struggles of the villagers trying to survive in a world taken over by hoards of skull spiders. The setting just isn't organic enough. It feels as if the world only exists when plot relevant events are happening. It's too stiff.

>>5656666
More worldbuilding

I'm not a MoCist, but I can't wait to get my hands on those trans-black pieces.

Is there a Bonkle you regret buying? Hard mode: Genwun only.

I'd have to say Bahrag. Don't get me wrong. They're not bad set at all. They look menacing enough and the build is pretty clever.

But they just don't want to stand properly because they're so top-heavy, Muaka does the action feature so much better, and having two identical builds in same set got boring in 2001.

Are they good? Kinda. But definitely not what I was expecting them to be for 14 years. Still, I aim for complete Bonkle collection so it was a necessary thing to do.

>>5656811
honestly the Bahrag are my holy grail set right now. I've been patiently waiting for a set to go up for under fifty dollars.

>>5656811
this is an interesting mentality to have from my perspective. To me, bionicle have always been an art supply with a story and setting, I always considered the idea of bionicles and the things made from technic/ccbs parts something separate from figures, so I never got the idea of gathering them as parts of a collection, only gathering them as parts, with certain parts being more important than others. If it's something you can put into words, what can you tell me about why you choose to collect them as whole figures rather than as resources?

>>5656811
The Phantoka commercial got me SUPER HYPED when I was a kid, enough that I convinced my parents to get me all three toa, all three makuta, and all the matoran sets for a combination christmas/birthday gift. It was the only time I had a complete set of any wave.

Imagine my disappointment when limb pieces started snapping one after the other.

>>5656811
Canister Mata Nui after not having bought a set since the Vahki.
The proportions were awful, the sockets all broke over time and I wasn't a fan of the shooter.
I guess the only reason I bought him was because they slapped "Mata Nui" on the canister.

>>5656811
Probably the visorak at release. I distincly recall buying vohtarak fresh, opening and building it and then going "wow it's fucking nothing."

>>5656811
Probably Stars Takanuva. I only bought it to have at least SOMETHING out of the 2010 wave. Call it a goodbye purchase.

People may shit on G2 all they want, but at least we'll never see shit on the scale of Stars.

>>5656852
The Visorak weren't too bad if you weren't trying to collect all six IMHO. Problem is they were trying SUPER HARD to be the New Bohrok, and the ripcord launcher gimmick is pretty fucking stupid.

>>5656852
Really? I remember buying an Oohnorak way back when it was released. I was fucking pumped to get it.
I wish I still have it around.

>>5656858
Yeah, and considering in the EU we got those first and the Hordika second, it kinda destroyed all my enthusiasm for the line briefly. I got a couple more since as gifts or hands me downs and I don't mind them, but at the time it was a downer.

>>5656844
Honestly, I don't know why. I just have a sizeable collection from way back when, I just need to fill the blanks.

I've always been a collector of various things, and having a complete collection of something that has been so important for me for over a decade just is a no-brainer.

I also have almost complete collections of Slizers and Roboriders (only missing Millennium and three if those fucking dumb polybag Roboriders), so having Bonkle too just feels natural

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>>5656877
I feel your pain, those small roborider polybags are so wildly overpriced. I did manage to score this and an unopened Boss Roborider for super cheap though, so I can't complain.

Does anyone have that collection checklist template?

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>>5656913
Here's the latest iteration.

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>>5656928
Huh, I have slightly different version.

>>5656928
>>5656950
Well, thank you to both of you.

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Long ago, my collection was taken from me, thrown away by a family member "helping" us by "cleaning".
But it is never too late to rebuild. Slowly but surely, I am taking back what was once mine.

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>>5656957
Many brave troops were lost.

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I don't even know.

But to be fair, most of the green ones are somewhere in storage in millions of pieces. One of these days I will put them back together.

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God, I fucking LOVE those armor pieces.

>>5657038
>that hard black gorilla cock
10/10

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>>5657164
Nice

>>5656877
Yeah, I'm in the same situation. I was about to drop $200(?) on a box of those sealed polybags.

>>5656877
>>5656887
>>5657229
I'm no expert, but wouldn't it be much cheaper to just part out those polybags? They don't seem to have too many exotic pieces.

>>5656811
I agree that their function is badly done, but I love them. They were my holy grail for over a decade, and I was satisfied when I finally got them.

Yeah, the Muaka and Kane-Ra did the gimmick better, but at least the Bahrag have actual bodies, some amount of articulation, and durable rubber bands. A middle-road between the two designs would be best.

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>>5656957
Гдe дocтaл? Oй, пoгoдь...

Where can I get ?

>>5657451
E-bay should still have some villain packs, I personally got 2, mainly for the stands.

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>>5657164
nice mod, though I feel the friction extenders on the feet are unnecessary.

I recently finished figuring out a Lava Beast mod, Lava beast doesn't need much to be fixed, but main thing was to give him jaw articulation and better legs, while making it still look like a set and meet Lego standards.

whoever keeps drawing porn in the bionicle tumblr tag needs to work on anatomy, god fuckin damn

>>5657599
I suggest changing the technic connectors on the knees to more round ones.

I still feel there must be a simpler way to make the jaw move. Would it be possible to just remove the eystalk altogether?

The head doesn't seem to use it for eyes anyway.

>>5657487
Hmm, okay.

>>5657617
I know it myself but for some reason people don't even want to point it out, thus I get the feeling that what I do is "enough".

>>5657626
The reason the jaw needs to be done this way is because the mask gets in the way of moving it unless the actual articulation point is moved lower, this is pretty much as small as I can make the jaw mod without it having no friction or using illegal techniques.

As for the legs, I wanted to keep them as thing as possible while still meeting lego durability standards and stuff, hence the choice of technic connection.

>>5657640
Ancient Fertility Idol/10

>>5657617
Why are you going on Tumblr in the first place?

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so I've been digging around Tumblr and various boards for Bionicle Mocs, and I'm really surprised.

for all of the Takanuva and other "Let's make an old Character in the 2015/2016 style" Mocs that are out there, NOBODY has done a Norik or a Iruini.

this needs to be corrected....as soon as I get myself two more 2016 Torso skeletons...and probably some other HF and/or Knight's Kingdom parts.

where's the UTD review?

>>5657681
after Quake Beast

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>>5657646
Not him but I'd really like either a posable Pochaco or a figma venus of Willendorf like they did The Thinker, the Vitruvian Man, and the other armless Venus.

>>5655705
He was saying he's surprised people use JoJo pics because most people here have shit taste and wouldn't like something good like JoJo.

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>>5657646

>>5657729
Jojo is cancer, familia. It's the anime equivalent of MLP. Jojofags spam it everywhere and make tons of retarded crossovers.

>>5657867
I only see this on /co/, anon.

The /a/ general is cancer though.

>>5657663
Go for it. That sounds cool.

>>5657867
>tons of retarded crossovers
That's basically every fanbase.

>>5654142
I retardedly sold my old tub of Bonkle parts about 3 years ago.

If I wanted a good MOC-Stock again, should I buy a miscellaneous part lot off eBay?

>>5657819
What's this?

>>5657947
Umarak the destroyer torso tweak?

>>5657875
the thing is...where would I start? I want it to look good alongside the official '16 sets, but given Norik is Silver+Red and Iruini is Gold+Green...augh. the torso shells alone are aggravating me.

the shields are easy. just use Tahu 15's shield for Norik, then paint the same shield gold. PoJ energy parts. done.

the spears, also fairly easy. there are tons of possible blades to use if I want to avoid the original blades. hell, Shapeways has made parts to use older heads on newer bodies most likely....even if they haven't made a new head that uses old masks.

it's the torso that is driving me up a wall...any ideas for specific parts I could use?

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>>5658127
>paint the same shield gold

>>5658138
You got any better ideas? Iruini's gold is hard to work with.

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I'm kinda dumbfounded where I should go with this.
I don't care if the set is shitty or not but I don't like changing the overall design, rather improve some aspects but not change them entirely or remove them.

It would be easy just give him a six-shooter but it's become too overused at this point.

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Built a couple of Prototypes from my shortage of parts.

the torso structures are Lewa's and Gali's.

constructive criricism is wanted. I know a LOT needs to be changed. bigger shells, more proper colors, different use of shells.

again. rough prototypes. I want to be told how to do it Right.

>>5658317
In general these MOCs are just way too simple. Experiment with parts, stray from the boring standard HF build.

>>5658317
If you're going to make super basic mocs, either make them small or make your own torsos and limbs. Prefabs suck for anything bigger than a $10 set.

>>5658624
well do mind that my variety of parts is EXTREMELY limited since I only have the 2015 and 2016 sets to work with.

I will keep that in mind though when I eventually nut up and devote a hunk of wallet to binge-shopping bricklink.

...though what to buy....

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>>5658669
Posting this again as something of a counterpoint, I used about five prefab torsos to form the main body.

>OG combiners were actual giant Toa with unique personalities and names
>2016 combiners are called Twotoa 1 and 2

>>5658912
The difference between being something that exists in the story and is advertised in the instructions and being some bullshit the designers came up with on the fly for no particular reason.

>>5658912
I still want to see masters of wisdom and valor as last ditch effort against Makuta and MoUP.

But then again, they made pretty big deal out of the fact that elements must never be combined.

>>5658912
It's not like it's a current issue.

Bohrok Va and Kohliitoran had combiners that never appeared anywhere, but they just were a thing to do if you were bored. 2004 and 2005 the combiners were just things that existed in the wild. 2006 had Jovan, but everything else was practically non-canon. Same thing for 2007, but with Zyglak. I can't even remember any combiners for 2008 and 2009, but on the final year there was that fucking that was ugly as sin, and it of all things was made a canon character.

tl;dr: combiners have been shit for a long time now

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>>5655160
Thanks! I'll have to come up with better feet for her next weekend.

>>5659025
which one of them has the rare kabuto medal?

>>5656928
Wasn't the fikou spider a 2002 set?

>>5656811
>and having two identical builds in same set got boring in 2001.
You were supposed to go halfsies on the rahi with your sibling and make them fight. That how my brother and I got the Manas.

>>5659083
Not so easy to do that when you're 9 and 11 years older than your brothers

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>>5659049
That's a medabots thing right
(I still know jack about the series other than metabee being way too expensive of an action figure secondhand)

>>5659081
It was originally a Pohatu/Onua "combiner" but was released as a polybag later for some reason.

>>5659177
Black one was the combiner and even then it was one Technic ball short.

Orange one was in Rahi builder set and later released as a polybag

What if the "masks" of the beasts end up being Krana of G2?

The jaw being connected to the eyestalk for quick removal seems similar to Bohrok Krana-launching. Having to knock off just half of the face feels a bit odd, even in Bonkle, and the beasts are a horde after all. Even the poster mirrors the old one a bit.

And stealing the masks could be reference to Kal stealing the symbols, but it's like grasping at straws

>>5659291
idk, they are bohrok in a way I guess but I doubt they slap their own masks on the toa.

>>5658707
See, that's alright, because you're not using them as the central torso.

>>5659291
More like their masks look like Umarak's original mask and they have shadow trap pieces incorporated into their bodies, so all they are are Umarak's corrupted shadow clones.

>>5659177
>>5659184
Thanks, I knew that. It doesn't answer my question though, which I'll repeat:

Wasn't the fikou spider a 2002 set?

>>5659483
Pretty sure it was released as a happy meal like the Mctoran, so no. I think it was 2001.

>>5659515
Fikou was not a Happy Meal exclusive

>>5659519
Okay well, I've got your answer. All it took was going to the Bionicle wiki.

Instructions for the Black combo model were released in 2001, the Rahi builder included the model in 2002, and the polybag was released in 2003.

>>5659184
Pohatu came with a spare ball in his canister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE16UK2o1Yk

>Bionicle Summer 2016 in a nutshell

>>5656811
All of the Avtoran/Agori sets.

Sometimes getting every set wave isn't worth it.

Anyone else find it a little worrying that the third graphic novel apparently comes out May 31st and it doesn't even have cover art yet?

>>5659660
The author doesn't even know it exists. He said he was asked to write "3 chapter books and 2 graphic novels".

>>5659672
Could this mean that all the stuff in it is just recycled?

It could just mean they got a different writer as Amazon hasn't updated it yet.

Or, he was mistaken and wrote enough content for two graphic novels after Gathering of the Toa and mistook it to be released as one.

>>5656337
>Protector of Fire
>worst protector
Fixed it.

>>5656852
I got a Vohtarak and I thought it was brilliant. I don't see why people hate the Visorak so much. The Hordika were a bit shit though.

I retardedly sold my old tub of Bonkle parts about 3 years ago.

If I wanted a good MOC-Stock again, should I buy a miscellaneous part lot off eBay?

>>5659386
I thought they were Protectors mutated by Umarak's Shadow Traps when I first saw them. Quake Beast has Korgot's drill and Lava Beast has fire blades on its hands like Narmoto. I don't know how Storm Beast can be connected to any of the other Protectors, but two out of three is close enough.

>>5659771
I mean, I initially thought it was the 3 gold creatures mutated. Lava is a bird like Ikir, Storm has a swiping feature like Melum, and Quake could kinda pass as Terak.

However, since we've seen how Umarak can make full on doppelgangers of himself and the Beasts are a horde; I strongly believe they simply come from Umarak directly. Either that or they're just guardians from the Maze of Control, but I doubt that.

>>5659752
>Protector of Ice
>worst protector
Fixed it.

>>5659786
They seem to be coming from under the volcano, the green masks are called "masks of corruption", and they're all dripping with green crap, so I'm guessing there's something akin to Antidermis under the island, corrupting the undead Okotans underneath.

>>5659810
>Not Protector of Water
I will fight both of you.

>>5659817
>implying the green crap coming off of UtD isn't the same thing as what's on the corrupted masks and beasts and he's just jizzing all over the island and creating walking spooge monsters

>>5659825
>>5659817
Umarak is oozing trans neon green. As are the Beasts. Remember that the Skull baddies all had bits of red throughout their armor just like Kulta, the one who revived them? My bet is they're copies/spawn of Umarak.

I mean, even the teaser for summer 2015 with Kulta's mask floating above the forge served no purpose in the story. It was just visually appealing. I bet the volcano/island is being corrupted by Umarak. The Skull villains showed their mask pop off features on their boxes, but their masks didn't do shit. We got the facehugger/krana gimmick with the Skull Spiders. And why would there suddenly be evil shit under the island for no reason? Stop grabbing at straws.

>>5659810
PoI at least had the shield. PoF just had the flame pieces that were in a bunch of HF sets.

>>5659819
At least PoW has elbows

>>5659855
At least PoF can pose.

>>5656084

Oi, is that you Pomatoranon? Not that guy but I think you're alright. You never made a big deal out of being trans.
Personally, I think people who want to undergo sex change should first see a few psychologists. This is too big and irreversible a thing for a person to later have regrets about. You must be absolutely certain it's what you want. Especially in an age that it's prettyfied so much.

>>5656092

Respect. I'm sick of people who express an opinion and take it back as soon as they are confronted by a person who is offended by that opinion. That's two-faced and cowardly, which imo is usually a worse than what the offended person is.

>>5656811

Carapar. I bought him for his yellow armour pieces. Turned out the mixed black dulled them to the point they couldn't be combined with other yellow pieces and they made no contrast with black pieces. And he wasn't an appealing set on his own.

>>5656666

Worldbuilding obviously, but with locations that are repeatedly visited or mentioned. I'd like an open, non linear world. One of the problems with Greg's run was the throwaway locations.
Another thing I'd like to see expanded upon both in storyline material and the sets is aesthetics.

>>5659855
Any amount of arm poseability on PoW is rendered almost entirely useless by the way he has to hold his weapon.

>>5659941

Doesn't his weapon also cause stability issues?
Personally I liked Korgot and Narmoto better than the other protectors because their piece count went towards a better body build rather than a complex-ish weapon and a very basic guy to hold it.

>>5655198
>>5657038
make em fight

>>5659933
Who was 5656092? What was their post? I don't remember.

>>5656811
Probably canister Mata Nui for the same reasons another anon mentioned. His head is entirely too damn small. I'm also gonna say the Bohrok-Kal, mostly because they're the exact same as the regular Bohrok but silver.

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>>5655882
>not yellow

>>5659961
>liking Korgot and Narmoto better than the based as fuck Jungle and Stone Protectors

>>5660052

Disregard that, I suck cocks. I posted my reply a day and a half too late.

>>5660090

>Stone

I'm a huge fan of PoH&S. I love his colours, but his build isn't great. His staff's business end feels like a fan, while the shaft doesn't feel sturdy. His body suffers from the same issues as below.

>Jungle

The bow is nice. The protector himself suffers from long, thin limbs, narrow shoulders, and a belly. So in short he is an ethiopean kid. Fists look hideous in such a build. The belly is something only Korgot doesn't have desu. But damn if it isn't ugly. At least the creatures come with a piece that fits the body better.

>>5656666
Nice quads...

As for improvement? I'd say go the route of Dark Souls or Berserk. What I mean is give some small backstory with some missing details that are left up to the kids.

>>5659535
I can tell you right now both mine and my brother's didn't.

>>5656666
The heroes need to lose by the end of this year. Not entirely, but they need to get taken down a notch. I vote for either Ekimu sacrificing himself leaving the Toa leaderless, or just massive damage done by Umarak at the end of his raid.

>>5659530
The Lego wiki has it as a 2002 set.

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Here's an idea. I think replacing 2016 Ekimu's body shell with pic related combined with 2015 Kopaka's chestpiece, and replacing the trans blue MoCr with the golden one will make Ekimu's colours blend more.
Can someone with the pieces moc this?

>>5660240
That's regular trans blue, not trans light blue

>>5660193
https://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?S=1441-1#T=S&O={}

Bricklink also has it as a 2003 set.

This month's Lego Magazine has literally ZERO mention of Bionicle in it.

I'll keep telling myself not to be worried...

>>5660312
Just got mine the other day. About 75% of it is licensed shit, so I wouldn't worry.

I know it makes money but I hate how lego's original lines are dwarfed by all the other shit.

>>5656811
Basically the entire toa hordika line. The pointless stubby left arm and its almost nonexistamt articulation trigger me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrfOr_wIUoM

>>5660444
Not bad, actually.

>>5660444
The neck and the lower legs really bug me, not to mention the gappy look overall. I can see this set being cool but some of the design choices really not work in it's favor.

I'm not a fan of stickers. Any way to cover up Umarak's chest so it isn't all black? I put one of Stormer XL's purple drones on Onua and it covers the chest well. I'm out of ideas so I'd appreciate the help. Thanks.

>>5660444
After watching this plus his Ekimu review I'm convinced I need both of them right fucking now.

>>5660444
Looking fab
I wonder if it's possible to put an extra set of bones between the beams and the unused ball of the uniter torso for some extra support.

Also is there a comprehensive pic/guide to uniter 'fixes'? I wanna get more but also know what to watch out for. Already have tahu but he's more or less perf.

Umarak the Destroyer steals the fucking show. I can't wait to build him. Shame Stipling couldn't get a decent combiner pic though.

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There are HD versions of these posters on the website now.

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>>5661014

>>5661016
>Ekimu's mask isn't actually attached to a head in the poster
>yfw this is actually foreshadowing Umarak the Destroyer thrashing Ekimu and holding his mask up in victory

>>5661032
Maybe Ekimu is supposed to be in some crazy astral form

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>>5660444
>Do you like my custom torso?
>Oh, that's a hand?

>>5660444
>3 weeks until I can get this beast of a set

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>>5661032
Except he doesn't have a weird translucent head or anything to hint that.

>>5661165
I hate his jokes too but the overall quality of the review easily tops BZP and most people alike.

>>5661222
I was actually amused.

He needs some work, but he's definitely superior to most of the other Bionicle reviewers on Youtube.

>>5661222
Some of his banter is trying a little hard, but his heart is in the right place. I like him. He could do to dim his display down a bit though, I can't see shit when it comes to white parts or the manuals.

>>5660444

Where did this guy get his sets? And how come bzp who gets them months earlier isn't rushing to review them? They're usually the first ones to do so, and now their first has been taken.

>>5661561
Probably ordered them while they were available on the TRU site. You usually get your stuff even if they set it to "Out of Stock" afterwards.

>>5661568
Would explain why he hasn't reviewed Quake Beast yet, but he's already done the first three out of set order, so who knows?

Maybe he's saving the worst for last.

>>5661573
Didn't he say something about saving the best for last?

>>5661584
No. All he said was that he couldn't get a hold of Quake Beast right now because it's "limited" at this time.

As in "TRU didn't have it up when I ordered these."

>>5661573
Arguably this year's worst set. Why you need to see it?

>>5661606
So I can hear someone talk bout news trans purple pieces like the invention of sliced bread.

>>5661590
Not in the Umarak review, one of videos before it had it.

>>5661606
You said it yourself, anon. Because it's ARGUABLY this year's worst set. Which, by definition, leaves room for an argument.

I love UtD but he is far too different to UtH. Without paying attention to the story or names it would be hard to tell they're the same character.

>>5661715
Certain parts of his original design are almost unchanged, but the whole looks completely different. Actually makes a lot of sense for a corrupted mutation.

>>5661766
I get the idea of growing in size, but his thighs have shrink instead.

>>5656064
>those arms fall off all the damned time

No they don't. What are you doing with them?

>>5661032
Where do the eyes come from then?

>>5661978
photoshop

>>5662150
he's asking where the glow from the eyes is coming from if it's not attached to a head

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Hey guys so I,m having some problems with a Moc im making, so ive decided to build 2 different torsos to help combat this problem but they both have different issues and im not sure what one to use, so i thought i would just ask you guys.

Torso one here has amazing poseability and can do pretty much any pose but i feel that the torso looks too small and the arms stick out a bit and the proportions dont look quite right.

1/2

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>>5662342
Torso 2 fixes many of my complaints in torso one, but loses all poseability and the arms do look a little to far in

so what one do you guys think looks better
Good poseability or good proportions?

>>5656303

could I get a view of the other side of this? also how long is the axle? Im a dummy and cant tell

>>5662342

Seems like you should try to find a bigger chest piece and put some bulk on the arms. It looks okay to me as is (sans the weird color combinations). Maybe try to add a little something underneath the blue biceps to fill in that area. I was thinking something like how Tahu uses the old Borok eyes along his sides to fill in the gaps in his armor.

My first thought when really looking at it was Reinheart from Overwatch (take that as you will).

>>5662347

Why does it lose posability? Are the biceps overlapping the shoulder pads too much? If that's the case try making the shoulders separate from the arms like Onua.

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little guy i've been having fun with

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I need more parts to flesh out the back

>>5662780
At first I thought it's a sort of insect than I saw the huge claws on the forelegs, but overall it doesn't look bad.

>>5661573
Because the Toys R Us site only had Ekimu, Lava Beast, Storm Beast and Umarak for sale before putting them out of stock, which is probably where he got it from.

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>trying to remove a ball socket from a Rahkshi's head

>>5662472
sorry for the late reply but yeah the skulls do overlap and lock up the arms and thanks for the idea i will take a look at Onua builds.

the blue skulls were just for show as i didn't have enough sliver skulls, but yeah i dont want to bulk it out to much at the moment.

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>>5662362

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>>5662957
push a technic axle through the hole in the top

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homages are cool and all but why you had to choose one of the worst HF sets for it?

>>5663089
while it does seem questionable, I gotta say the beast looks infinitely better to the original HF set. Honestly, I'd be cool if they just went through all the shitty HF ideas and remade them with proper bionicle flavor and color. Sorta give all the good ideas with bad toys at least better parts and more reason to buy them.

>>5663098
Or better make bonkleversion of good sets like Dragonbolt

>>5663100
Just get original DB and pretend he's Thunder Dragon of Okoto or something.

Everyone can make something good out of somethings that's good to begin with. Making bad things good is much impressive

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>>5663100
Hello

Does anyone have pictures of the modded uniters?

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So last night, I dropped the screw separator filled with 1/2 liftarms in while doing some spring cleaning, and inspiration struck while I was picking up the pieces.

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>>5663197
3 hours later, this. Might redo or touch it up later.

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>>5663198

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>>5663200
Accident-Chan a cute

>>5663068
That might work for the original heads, but those darker colors' axle is way too flexible.

>>5662957
That's not even too hard.

Now, removing the liftarm from Rahaga head is whole another story

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>>5663172
I have Onua saved, the rest I deleted that got posted, but I could take pictures of them if you want.

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>>5663338

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>>5663340

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>>5663342
Also got some Kopaka tweaks saved oo

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>>5663345