3rd Party Transformers General

>>5631524

Anyone?

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Beefy Blitzy.

>>5631774
I have some symbols from them, they seem quite good, quality-wise.

>>5631785

Damn this looks real nice. I don't collect enough in that scale to shell out for it but I'm impressed

>>5631774

I've been buying autobot and decepticon symbol stickers from them for most of the time that 3rd party figures have been a thing and I haven't had any problems with them falling off

>>5631785
>>5631787

Who makes this one?

>>5631768

Anyone have the newly released set of these guys in the OP? Kind of curious if they're any good.

>>5631801

DX9

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>>5631801

Dx9.

>>5631808
This picture is fucking with my mind because I keep thinking Blitzwing's figure is going to be like 2 feet tall

>>5631921
>I keep thinking Blitzwing's figure is going to be like 2 feet tall

BIGGEST EVER

>>5631921

To be fair he DOES look pretty fucking big. He's gotta be at least 7-9 inches, and he looks wide as fuck.

>>5632054
Oh absolutely, but when I see Devestator and Megatron my first instinct is OH FUCK THIS GUY IS THE SIZE OF A CHILD
But it's not

But he does look fuckin' beefy.

>>5632178

Oh yeah, I get what you mean.

I'm guessing he's probably going to be as big as their Astrotrain.

He looks really good, as a robot. We'll have to see what his alts look like.

I'm just sitting here waiting for the rest of ToyWorld's Constructor...

Just got the Combaticon limbs for Bruticus, and I have the PE hands and feet for him.

I managed to put the original hand/feet guns onto Brawl and Swindle as a type of storage, but where and how can I add in Blast Off's and Vortex's (as well as their guns)?

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>>5631774
I have a few sets from Reprolabels and they're definitely more tactile than normal stickers. I have had a few not quite stay put in the past, but thankfully they released an adhesive applicator to rectify that.

>>5631774
Everything I've ever got from them has been great. The only exceptions were the stuff for FoC Grimlock and Bruticus which ended up peeling after a short amount of time.

However, they have great customer service, just send them a nice letter and they'll fix almost anything. They even did a cool thing last Christmas where they send out gift certificates to anyone who spent a lot in their store. I got $15 free.

>>5631774
They're shit. They're printed on crappy paper that looks like trash on even retail releases, never mind MPs. Ocean designs makes much better decals that aren't just cheap stickers, and they are hard to peel off even if you try.

Reprolabels has a lot more variety, but the way I see it, I'd rather put nothing on my figures than Reprolabels. Besides, most of their sets are pointless shit that ends up making the toy look worse anyway.

Speaking of 3rd party triplechangers, how's that Provider/Octane

>>5631808
>DX9

Hmmm Could go either way with being good or shit. I really hope he'll be good. I love Blitzy

>>5631774

In my experience their stuff holds up well, even in the long run.

>>5632054

That's what she said.

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>>5631808

MUH WALLET

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>>5632630
>getting this buttmad over optional stickers
Cool elitist opinion, bro.

>>5632551
Yep, this. Bought their Devvy set to make CW Devestator not look so damn bland and the hubcap stickers do a fucking lot to help. Got a 20$ off discount from them out of nowhere as well and got a bunch of insignias for all my 3rd party stuff. Considering they make 3D badges now in sticker format as well, they're pretty based.

The only downside I have for Reprolabels is that a lot of their sets are overloaded with things that really should be optional. I don't mind spending a bit more to get the extras when I want them, but I don't like it when I feel half of the budget is going to bad jokes and puns. Like all of the "album art" for MP Soundwave's cassettes. Sometimes they put these extra things on stickers that I'd otherwise want to use (for their base color), but I don't want the writing. I know Generations Springer and Sandstorm had some of that.

Speaking of after-market detailing, did any of y'all see that thread about the guy making Photo Etching kits in the 3P at TFW?
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1064823-dirt-modeler-jot-plates-say-what.html
Could be interesting depending on how it turns out.

>>5632934
>getting this buttmad because someone gave an honest review

hi there, Amy's Baking Company....

>>5633064

My issue with them is they stopped doing repros for toys that originally had them and switched to doing overpriced sets for newer toys that don't really need them. They won't even touch G2 toys anymore. Oh I need some repros for Machine Wars? Screw me, then.

For the G1 sets I do need, TF Kingdom's prices are cheaper and they have free shipping. They're not perfect decals, they tend to only copy the factory sheet and leave off factory-applied decals, but 'd rather buy from them. I can't even get RL to answer CS emails.

What are the best priced 3rd party figures at this point? like, topspin/twintwist were good prices at first, now the legends are fair, but a bit small, warbot defender plummeted in price after Gen 30th Springer came out... so what now is actually reasonably priced?

>>5633233
I imagine the market for the old stuff they haven't done yet is pretty niche. I would love to have more G2, but I could understand the economics of it being poor. So I don't think they are making new stuff *instead* of old stuff.

>>5633234

I mean most of the "best priced" 3rd party figures are just awful figures that are clearanced everywhere for being garbage.

Barring that, one of the best deals is probably Cloud 9 Quakeblast, which is an MP-ish Shockwave that's a good figure and is like $80 for a figure around the height of MP-10 and beefy. Good quality too, I think they just saved on the engineering budget by copying the transformation wholesale from the Fanstoys version. But the end result is better than Fanstoys IMO.

>>5633233
>>5633248
Also, they'd need access to both the original toys and the stickers to replicate them. They may not have those.

>>5633234
The Quantron limbs got a price cut recently. They're still third party prices but I think it's a good discount. I just picked up Blindfire and he's cool as fuck.

>>5634272
If nothing else, being able to get them individually is a price cut if you only wanted one or two of them. Before you had to buy the $300-400+ set and be stuck with members you might not have wanted, now you can get the ones you want for much less.

>>5634298
Does the individual Scattershot come with the combiner pieces?

Anybody get their Severo yet? That guy looks badass.

>>5634865
He was advertised as coming with them someplace. Yeah.

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>>5635073
I just finished a photo shoot with him, he's a lot of fun. Originally I thought I wouldn't enjoy him that much but he's definitely grown on me. He probably won't be in dino mode very often, the wing pieces tab in so tightly that I ended up damaging some of the gold parts on his chest trying to pry it open.

>>5635442

Think he's worth a buy? Been eyeing all of the Lost Exo stuff, looks so nice in a CHUG way. I gotta shell out for a Feral Rex though before I can even think of anything else.

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>>5635454
I have Vulcan and Severo both, I'll be doing some comparison photos and fight shots.

Vulcan is $120 and comes with enough accessories to pass pretty well, one thing for each hand. Severo DX is $140 and this thing is packed with extras. Two melee weaposn (one turns into 2 minibots), three guns, a crown and a throne. So you are getting your monies worth in my opinion.

As far as playability goes, I feel Vulcan wins out though. This is largely due to the fact that his dino-mode is a lot more fun than Severo's. Vulcan had a pretty smooth transformation for me, but Severo was a definite pain.

Severo is the most faithful of the two when it comes to representing a G1 Grimlock. There were moments when I looked at him and saw Grimlock, it was really nice. To be fair though, Vulcan never tried to be G1.

If I had to choose one, it would be Vulcan. I had the first three LER Dinobots and I just had to try too hard to like them. I switched to the Planet X offering and never questioned it. It really just comes down to preference though.

>>5635495
>>5635442
Ohhhh, that looks so nice. Pictures of him on the throne looks awesome too, it's making me want to get one more and more over the oversized G1 Grimlock.

>>5635495
how tall are they?

>>5635495
>Severo is the most faithful of the two when it comes to representing a G1 Grimlock. There were moments when I looked at him and saw Grimlock, it was really nice.

Same here. One of the reasons I've been getting the FP Dinobots is because I see them as updated CHUG versions of the old Marvel (Us/UK) Dinobots. It helps that they share a lot of the elements of the Marvel Dinobots (Grimlock's red eyes and crown, Swoop's red torso).

Can't wait to get my Severo. Once I get Titans Return Blaster, I think I'll have them fight for nostalgia's sake.

>>5635495

I won't deny the Planet X stuff looks good, but I just can't deal with the FoC aesthetic as my main Dinobots, and the other companies ones are TOO G1, if that makes any sense, as I own the G1 figures already.

So the LER stuff really hooked me in with the looks, but I need to actually buy the things first and NotGrimlock'd be my first buy most likely.

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>mfw just ordered/preordered all the 'bots for Feral Rex

My poor fucking wallet, gonna be eating ramen for a month and a half now, but I had to get it, it's my holy grail.

>>5636176
Don't worry, eventually you will be figuring out how long you can go -without- eating.

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>>5631768
i always hate on 3P toys (especially combiners) for their detailing, and while Gravity Builder does have copious detailling, his minimal color work makes for a very visually coherent looking toy, something Warbotron and others couldnt pull off

I dont want it, but it looks nice

>>5636393
are these honestly the final colors for Tyrant???
apparently he'll be very limited, and only released with Gravity Builder Crane...

There go my dreams of a iron factory Megatron...

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>>5636400

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>>5636262

Well, bills and basic necessities always come first, but shit, theres just no way to get around this being an expensive as fuck toy.

Technically it's 5 toys, but shit, it's a combiner. You can't just buy one or two.

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>>5636403

Please tell me thats going to be re-released by IF in proper colors because that looks fucking hideous and an absolute waste of resources.

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>>5636393
>>5636400
>>5636403
In addition, Dump Truck gains a new G1 accurate head! as opposed to the generic gundam head the prototype had

>>5636428
i have UW Devastator and i dont need another, but i might get his guy. the UW set made Long Haul my favorite Constructicon

>>5636422
You do know what test colors are, right?

>>5636444

Thank fuck I thought for a moment that might be it's actual colors. Usually test shit is done in that plain grey color....

>>5636176
Why didnt you just get the ko version?

>>5636472
those cheap KO versions? Be lucky if they don't break.

>>5631785
Oh god yes, i hope the alts look good

>>5636480
Just handle them gently

I already treat third parties like there made of glass

>>5636500
>Just handle them gently

once a product hits a certain cost, I shouldn't fucking have to.

>>5636503
130 for a figure that size im willing to play nice with it

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Any reviews on this guy yet? I'm kinda digging the Desperado colors.

>>5636613
I think Hasbro is coming out with an official one soon =^}

>>5636542
Is there such a thing as to big with combiners

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>>5636639
Will the official one be able to turn into a bitchin' throne?
I somehow doubt it.

>>5636640

If it's above a foot, yes. Around a foot is just right. Any bigger and you start running into major breakage and weight issues which limit aritculation.

>>5636656
depends on the size, the bigger the better~

>>5636678
I take it you dont like cw devastator or that one third party monstrosity

>>5636613
>Minor remold to make things more G1 accurate
>Cast it in coldsteel soulfucker edge colours
>Still leave the gates on the wrong side of the chest crest

So close.
Is Hexatron at this point a more famous and integral part of 3rd party culture and development than Hercules and City Commander at this point? So many damn remolds and counterfeits.

>>5636403
I hope they put him up for sale by himself. Mightron like all DX9 legends has such weird proportions.

>>5636613
It's Hexatron but better in Shadow the Edgehog colours. If that's your thing he's well worth buying.

>>5636403
I'm getting Crane mostly for just him.

>>5636737
>Is Hexatron at this point a more famous and integral part of 3rd party culture and development than Hercules and City Commander at this point? So many damn remolds and counterfeits.

Maybe. He is 100% amazing and a worthy addition to any collection. He's pretty much the gold standard others should be shooting for.

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>>5636393

Keep in mind these are colored prototypes without paint. They could go and break it up with something similar to the other bots. The legs and crotch will get something for sure.

Looks like they did the combiner legs fairly well. it appears they space really nicely thanks to the crotch armor wedging in between to space them out.

Also screaming head.

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Begun, the Blitzwing war has.

Too bad no one trusts KFC or Xtransbots much.

>>5636781

Curious as to how this thing will hold up. Looking at some reviews, the Scrapper leg looked like it'll possibly have some issues.

>>5636700

Yeah, they're honestly too big. I do want a UW Devy, but damned if I know where I'll put it AND atop that, I honestly wish it was sized with the other UW/CW combiners.

I'd like to see a downsized KO, but KO's tend to be shit quality no matter the size.

>>5636891
I'm autistic when it comes to scale so cw devy and ko uranos (superion) are pretty perfect for me

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>>5636788
We already had a winner.

>>5636948

How is he? Heard he wasn't as good as some of the other IF stuff. How would you rate him, Anon?

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>>5636973
I really like him a lot, he is definitely worth the price imo. His transformations are pretty easy and fun once you get the hang of them. He just has this presence about him too, he just feels like a jerk.

His accessories cover all his bases and he fits in great with the other IF guys. I'm also super happy to just get more cons.

>>5636613
What is this guy named? And how much does he run?

>>5636656
probably? i mean, its just the tank mode but with the guns pointing up, no?

>>5637071
I don't know what that black version is, but it's a KO of Hexatron, who goes for $125-150 or something like that.

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>>5637071
Apparently, he's called Clone Droid Blackshot, and he seems to run the same price the standard Clone Droid goes for, which right now looks to be around a hundred or so.

>>5636393
Worst looking 3P Dev.

So since 3P stuff is starting to go into the Japanese G1 characters, might we also see them doing proper renditions of stuff from the Brave series? God knows no one else will

>>5637558
>>5637556


At that point why not just get the real thing? I can't understand people who will spend $100 on a KO but not toss in the extra $20-40 for a real thing. You're already blowing $100+ bucks, you really going to cheap the fuck out at that point?

I could understand if the KO was like, $50 tops...

>>5637618
>At that point why not just get the real thing?

Because the clone droid has improvements over the original.

>>5637618
The KO is larger, same quality plastic, and has a couple small mold changes. Mainly on the face and the wings on the chest in robot mode.

>>5637618
Same reason people buy the KO MP Grimlock. It's better than the official.

>>5636781
greeble my shit up senpai

>>5637618
I prefer to view it as "if I'm spending $100+ bucks, I may as well get the one that has more things that I like about it". It's not just about price, it's about which has more accessories, or nicer colors, or better-looking head sculpt.

For as much as I would be spending, why wouldn't I go for whichever one will make me happier to see sitting on my shelf?

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>>5637634

Odd that their sister company is taking the cleaner comic approach. I do like the extra vehicle detailing on GT's Devs. It doesn't come off as bad as Warbotron's greeble. There aren't just lines everywhere. Shit like Long Haul's grill has the actual vehicle's entry ladders and gives you a sense of scale.

>>5637629
It's the same size

Out of curiosity, is there something like a slightly oversized KO Infinitor?
Also how is the normal one/Grant?

>>5637873
I've got Grant, and he's okay. He mostly wins by being a Grand Max that I can actually afford.

He makes a lot of nice improvements on the base Fort Max toy while still staying really close to the G1. As such, he's not rather complex. Articulation is decent though. Grant's decals are alright, but I think I would have prefered paint apps (particularly the missing green on his head). That's not really an issue for the FM colors though.

Overall, if you want a Fort/Grand Max at roughly the voyager size (thus not really working with anyone in city mode), he's not bad. You might want to consider the Kabaya kit too, as it's not much smaller than the regular-size Infinitor/Grant, and costs less than a third of the price. YMMV on making a model kit though.

>>5637895
>YMMV on making a model kit though.
Any photos?

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>>5637899

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Will Gladius be the best 3P Megatron?

>>5638146
If their Motormaster is anything to go by then no.

>>5638146

He looks like Megatron in his freshman college years. Before he was a decepticon or cut his nails.

>>5638146
>Will Gladius be the best 3P Megatron?
If the pictures are anything to go by, no.

>>5638214
He played college ball, you know.

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Took a pic of my Legends scale guys. I think they all look really good together, though the official guys feel like they are really lacking in the quality department =/.

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>>5638332

S-so much jelly in one picture..

Besides the Iron Factory legends, Junkion Blacksmith Headmaster, not-Revoltech, and *shudder* Sonicron, what other third party Soundwave toys are there?

>>5638332
Its ironic that the Legends scale boom in 3P started to supplement the official stuff, but much like how regular 3P has come to overtake official releases(especially in Classics style stuff) the same seems to be happening with Legends.

>>5638376
Mega Steel had one coming but they seem to have disappeared after releasing Megatron and Blaster. It's a shame because they had so much going for them design-wise but their engineering fell a bit short and the figures weren't exactly fun to transform and were a bit floppy. It sucks because they would have been the only CHUG Soundwave on the market that actually LOOKED good. He looked to be a retool of their Blaster which honestly wasn't bad. Definitely less faulty than Megatron.

>>5638376
KFC did Mugen Vox, a remold & repaint of Mugen Scope, their Perceptor.

>>5638332
>That Reflector team with toy fidelity looks
I'm jelly because I can't find that shit at affordable prices

>>5638457
I ended up biting the bullet and buying both for $140 off ebay.

>>5638457
>>5638460
is PE toy Reflector that expensive? has was on sale once at TFsource for 90 bucks

>>5638544
Clearly, I sold mine too early.

Oh well, it was to an online buddy, so I don't really mind charging about retail.

>>5638376
I just hope someone does new versions of the more obscure old cassettes. Where's Slugfest, Overkill, Slamdance, Squawkbox, etc?

>>5638557
oh yes, I too want proper renewed Cassette combiners. But I guess we'll see them in the later age of Titan Returns

>>5638569
They might do them later down the line, but for now it's seems like they're releasing the well known ones first.

Let's hope the Legends class still exist.

>>5638544
>>5638552
No, they go for between $70-90, I got both for $140 together from the same seller.

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>>5638332
No love for DX9?

>>5638405
Yeah it's funny that in the beginning they were basically accessories to Generations Metroplex, but then they caught on like wildfire and completely took on a life of their own

Anyone ever have luck contacting Maketoys for replacement parts? My Left hand for Quantron has a cracked connector. It's still usable, but not for long.

>>5638636
I haven't gotten any DX9 because I don't really enjy their aesthetic or scale. Iron Factory scales everything against their other releases, DX9 seems to make everything the same height as each other, even if that's not the case.

Also, I don't like the overly G1 aesthetic of DX9. That has a lot to do with it. I kind of want their most recent group with Tyrant but they just seem off to me.

Best 3P companies, /toy/?

My votes are going for MMC and IF.

>>5638982
Solid calls there. I'd be tempted to vote for Maketoys as well. Their aesthetic takes getting used to but they know how to make a good toy.

>>5639020
Is that Smallfoot?

>>5639020
I hope they do either IDW Pipes/Huffer next or Rodimus.

>can't find my alternate gears head anywhere
>feels bad man

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>>5639029
Trashtalk and Cogwheel.

Also known as notSwerve and notGears

>>5639034
>IDW Pipes/Huffer

what would their unlicensed names be seeing how they cannot sell them with the official copy righted names Hasbro and IDW have rights to?

>>5639037
Shaft and Miff.

>>5639037

420 and Blazeit

Bong and Puffer

Smoker and Toker

>>5639035
>>5639020

Where do people get those little glasses and trays and stuff? I wish I could find some my guys can hold.

>>5639106
the drinks and tray are part of the set, since in IDW Swerve runs a bar.

>>5638146
My dreams say yes, my brain says no

Its so far my fave looking megs hands down but my hopes are subdued

>>5639108

Oh cool. Which company makes those?

>>5638557
Yes please, Soundwave and his mates have always been my favourite, id love to get a new Squawkbox

Tho now im torn cuz the mp cassetes are dope but that recent cartoon scale Ravage is amazing and now i dont know which I want more of

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>>5639128

Maketoys. The set name is Trashtalk and Cogwheel. Might run you $60 burgers if in stock somewhere though.

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What have we here.

13 bucks a piece hmm.

>>5639397
That looks a little too busy.

>>5639397
The repaint no one asked for. Bruticus Maximus.

I'm not a fan of that aesthetic honestly. But I miight bite the bullet if they ever did Ruination, or the urban camo version.

>>5639397
Link? I want.

>>5639482
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=530527165263&fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7728556.w5003-14037441053.32.Q2gjNR&scene=taobao_shop

>>5639488
Cute chrome won't translate it for me and I can't speak moonrune. I've also never used Taobao before.

>>5639501
13-14 bucks per limb

>>5639537
That's all well and good but i cant read the page to buy it.

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Iron Factory is fun

>>5639919
Nice weird looking tits.

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>>5639928
Yea... Arcee's should be better. I'm trying to put a gallery together to showcase how awesome Iron Factory is.

>>5639928
>Nice weird looking tits.

I like her eggtits.

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>>5639919

>>5638982
FT and MT

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Pole-spear thing confirmed for Hades

Based TFC

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I'm wondering why TW is so secretive about Hook and Longhaul. We've seen plenty of combine pics but none of them individually.

>>5640125
for the life of me, I will never understand TFC.

They started off small with Rollar and some other promising offerings.

They were at the beginning of the 3rd party combiner wars.

Hercules was a solid A for effort, B/B- for execution. I have had Hercules and Green Giant, personally prefer Hercules.

They listen to the fans, make the Rage addon kit.

They then apply NONE of the lessons learned on that for Uranos - which was an honestly terrible combined mode.
TFC Ares was a goddamned mess.
TFC Defensor was just OK, personally I still think Herc was their best execution so far.

Now we've got Hades looking fucking AMAZING, and superior engineering and attention to detail in 3 modes for all bots.

AND we've got TFC Piranacon teasing as just as good or even better based on what we've been seeing.

Seriously TFC, seriously.

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>>5640149
>people think this looks better than UW Devastator

All that partsforming kibble yet the waist looks scrawny.

>>5640251
Agreed. his torso is too small and he's got these long'ass gorilla arms.
I see people saying this'll be their MP Devastator, when aesthetically he's a mess and he'd never fit in with MPs.
UW Devastator is also in MP scale but he actually looks like G1 and wouldnt clash with other toys

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>>5640259
>I see people saying this'll be their MP Devastator, when aesthetically he's a mess and he'd never fit in with MPs.
>UW Devastator is also in MP scale but he actually looks like G1 and wouldnt clash with other toys

>>5640274
attempt to wrap your head around this for a single solitary second, alright?
MPs are big and cartoon accurate, so is UW Devastator. TW Devastator is big but not cartoon accurate.

>>5640278
CW/UW is not to scale with MP. The individual bots are too small and so is the combined mode. TW Dev isn't supposed to be cartoon accurate. He's a mixture of studio ox design and the original G1 toys. The only thing the CW/UW figs have going for them are the head sculpts. Other than that the TW team destroys them.

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>>5640299
>CW/UW is not to scale with MP. The individual bots are too small and so is the combined mode

i guess its up to personal preference, i find the scale to be nice for Devastator

>The only thing the CW/UW figs have going for them are the head sculpts
i'm sure the TW ones are more substantial but the UW constructicons are still good toys

>>5640151
I don't get it either, anon. Anyone who so stubbornly ignores the signs of the time like TFC did with Superion through Defensor usually never turns it around so far like they have with Liokaiser.

I've held a lot of TFC products, and own Hercules and 2/6 of Liokaiser. It's strange how everything after Herc feels stagnant and even in decline, but then Liokaiser feels like TFC had been learning all along and this was them at top level.

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>>5640310
It is nice if you put him in your CHUG collection. The set isn't bad for what it is but, has no place on an MP shelf. I will admit the arms on TW are a bit too long but, posing him you won't notice.

>>5638982
Maketoys
Iron Factory
MMC is good but they need to stop announcing shit years in advance and actually finish some projects.

>>5632630
Hahahaha Oceanshill. Repro will print them on vinyl in any color you want if you ask. Their paper ones are meant to match the G1 stickers so you want the vinyl kind meant for customs and newer molds

>>5640356
Really? That's pretty cool. Can you just send them an email and ask?

I've been thinking of getting the CW Devy, Gen Metroplex, and the upgrade sets for G1 Metroplex and Trypticon. Anyone have any experience with those ones? Worth it?

>>5640299

It actually is about to scale in combiner mode. Look up the G1 cartoon size chart. MP10 comes up to about where he should.

>>5640125
this is the only good TFC combiner. I like how the feet are integrated like the original toy and the hands turn into guns so you're not left with pointless hand/feet kibble in the individual robot modes.

allow me to leak this, a 3p no- dino/mirage is in the oven

>>5640470
I remember seeing a custom 1-years ago that they kept saying might get mass produced. If it's as good as that one, I'm in.

Maybe we are entering the age of good movie third party. The KO Evasion Optimus is a fantastic toy and I say bring on more.

>>5639919
>>5639977
I want to like them but they're just so weird, as if they were added later, it's like the don't fit the chest- you can really see it from the side when you hold her arm up.

>>5640497
When's 3P Prime/RID toys? Knockout still hasn't gotten a good figure and he's in dire need of it.

>>5640745
I say this every time it's brought up but come on 3rd parties, make an actual good Knock Out and you can have all my fucking money.

>>5640497
Man, there's a lot of toys I'd like to see picked up and made even better.

Can't imagine what they'd do with figures like Generations Springer or ROTF Mindwipe.

>>5640764
I don't have anything against the official one, but I'd love to see a third party one. I hope he becomes part of the canon and gets a generations figure too.

>>5640847
>I don't have anything against the official one,
Really? He looks awful.

>>5640764
>I say this every time it's brought up but come on 3rd parties, make an actual good Airachnid and you can have all my fucking money.

fixed

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>>5640893
Airachnid is a wimp. Helicopter and yet tiny AF and lacks firepower.

>>5640856
I mean, yeah. I think he looks fine and I think his transformation is neat, especially his forearms. What's awful about him?

>>5640149
>>5640310
>>5640329

>HB/UW Devastator is a cheap shitty child's toy with garbage robot modes to make devastator as big as possible. Shit proportions.

>TW is a giant partsforming mess with garbage proportions despite fucking partsforming and a turbo lank aesthetic. Also scales with nothing.

>Hercules is outdated but still a decent toy

>Giant was pretty gud but a lot of the robot modes were kinda shit

>GT is just a bigger giant and an actually unique aesthetic

Winning by default is still a victory, I guess.

>>5641180
eh, doesnt look like the show. would be nice to see a more accurate 3P one, right down to Knock outs weird, glossy white face. he had a very shiny face

>>5638772
>>5638772
>>5638772
Anyone? I have this question too, albeit for a different part and different figure.

>>5641641
You are shit out of luck probably. If you bought it from a retailer try asking them to contact Maketoys, as MT usually doesn't respond to customers directly.

>>5640251
>>5640259
You're the reason the official lines are so shitty. TW Devastator is definitely flawled but the UW is Playskool level kiddy shit.

>>5636393
>something Warbotron and others couldnt pull off

I have bad news Anon....

>>5642218

UW Devy is amazing. CW is too, given you can find it for like $100 more often than not.

A lot of the 3P Devy's are straight up overdesigned or don't look like Devy. Either the colors are off or they add too much detail to a 'bot thats mostly flat clean surfaces.

Yes, there is such a thing as too much detail. And I'm saying this as a guy who loves MMC's stuff, which a lot of people say are very greebly (or whatever the fucking term is for "lots of details").

>>5642218
>but the UW is Playskool level kiddy shit.

and yet it's the only one that gets Devastator's look spot on. If it were a bit larger and removed the hollowness it could pass for a MP.

Damn, that 3P Dirt Boss is pretty big (that's the leader sized Bulkhead for comparison)

>>5642623

forgot pic

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>>5642623
>>5642628

haha holy shit

>>5642585
Some people like the greeble over bare, flat surfaces. I prefer it because I don't like the look of a shitty 80's cartoon with an animation budget of $3.50 and a stick Juicy Fruit.

>>5642731

The 80's cartoon had some pretty nice detailing at times though.

Dem Japanese companies were great when you paid them to be great.

>>5642594
>UW Devy is amazing
>A lot of the 3P Devy's are straight up overdesigned or don't look like Devy.
>and yet it's the only one that gets Devastator's look spot on
Kill yourself. Right now you blind idiots.

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>>5642629
>make 3P animated toy of a character no one wants
>no one buys it
>I GUESS ANIMATED JUST DOESNT SELL

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>>5642821
it's true though? the colors, the heads, everything about him screams G1 cartoon, helps that Shogo Hasui designed him.

If you can find a more cartoon accurate Devastator (other than that non-transforming one) I'm all ears

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>>5642830
>>make 3P animated toy of a character no one wants


>tfw this is the second time this has happened

>rip animated huffer and pipes

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>>5642796
>The 80's cartoon had some pretty nice detailing at times though.

this

people have this perception that it was always shit. it looked alright usually, but when it was nice it was really nice.

The same studio worked on Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory, getting better on each series

>>5642830
Honestly there's probably more of an interest in Dirt Boss than Huffer and Pipes. Especially since that would mean the other Constructicons are in the pipline.

Still though, where's leader class Strika?

>>5642926
>Even more of a literally who

>>5642594
>overly long legs
>knees look like a mess
> totally inaccurate Mixmaster
>puny forearms
>shoulders looked fucked if you do anything besides an arms straight down pose
>spot on

You're one of those people who insist on putting "G1" Leader Megs on your MP shelf, aren't you?

Seriously, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying any 3P Devestator really passes for MP but jesus, to say CW/UW Devs fits the bill or even comes close is pure and utter delusion.

>>5642977
he's just saying its more G1 accurate than 3P Devastators, which i think is true.

might not be the best one, but i think its the most accurate

also mixmaster only looks wrong in vehicle mode, and you can even get upgrades for that if it bothers you so much

>>5642955
>Strika
>literally who
What would you want then? Other stuff that could be done is a leader class Lugnut, voyager Slipstream, and an actually good Blitzwing.

>>5642977
Still closer than the others.

>>5642987
"closer than the others" doesn't make it MP though or make it anything more than what it is. A group of upscaled Legends class figures that make for a big fun toy but still look cheap as fuck and are presented poorly.

>>5642990
Didn't say it does, but its still the closest.

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>>5642977
Lets look at 3rd party devy's then?

>Fucked up looking head with no homage to any version of devastator other than black with red visor
>Gorilla arms
>excessive detailing making the figures far more visually complex and confusing than needed.
>totally inaccurate everything other than the fact they are green and construction vehicles
>excessive parts forming

If you want something cool for a CHUG collection 3rd party is the way too go. If you wan't GEEWUNNN devastator for an MP Shelf CW/UW Devastator is the best there is at the moment. It has its issues like any toy does, (except maybe MP Wheeljack, that guy is perfect imo) but 3rd parties are not offering anything G1 like for G1 fans.

>>5643002
The delusion is real.

Go circlejerk in the hasbro thread.

>>5639034
i want pipes so god damn bad

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>>5642921
>have this perception that it was always shit
To be fair, it was shit more often than not. Im not saying there wasnt ANY good, but it was few and far between. And it wasnt just Transformers, just look at Mobile Suit Gundam.

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>>5643002

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>>5643002
>Fucked up looking head with no homage to any version of devastator

actually its a reference to Studio Ox Devastator.

They still fucked up the head tho, and i agree with your other points

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>>5643248
>They still fucked up the head tho

Erm no.

>>5643276
the face is not as handsome though..

>>5643276
Erm yes, only thing the head has in common with the art us the shape. They really fucked up a simple concept.

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>>5643289
>>5643308
The official thread doesn't even have to put up with shit like this....

>>5640125
Just ordered Not-Leozack and Not-Hellbat as my first 3p guys. This guy looks too good to pass up.

>>5643362

Here, have the generic recommendation to get MMC's Hexatron.

Seriously, probably the best single purchase 3P thing available.

>>5643387
>Seriously, probably the best single purchase 3P thing available.
Sure if you ignore everything done by fans toys as well has Feral Rex.

>>5643405

Feral Rex is amazing but he also isn't a single purchase. Whats Fanstoys done thats good?

Not mocking, just never bought anything from them.

>>5643011
Where is this Hasbro circlejerk thread? I'd love to see it.

>>5643416
Their the only 3P company to not only nail the MP aesthetic but also the quality.

>>5643422
X-transbots did too with Appollyon and Not-scourge?

>>5642955
Damn I'm sorry that G1 is all that you know.

>>5643452
Wasn't the point of this that Dirt Boss was a minor character in Animated, so he would kill off interest in Animated-based toys?
Strika was even less of an important character who was not even seen by the protagonist group in Animated.

>>5643457
Dirt Boss is the core of a hypothetical Devastator, and remember what the big fad in 3P is right now?

>>5643464
That makes the case for Dirt Boss stronger. Where are you trying to go with this?

>>5640329

God I will never get over those fucked proportions. If those were better it'd be my all time favourite Devastator.

Ordered Nero Rex today.

About how much will he tower over my Green Giant and Quantron?

>>5643428
Their quality isn't the greatest though.

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>>5643523

Not my pic, but heres something.

I just got IF Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen and now I really want them to do a similar set of Starscream/Skywarp/Thundercracker

>>5643523

Not enough to not fit in depending on where you leave the knees extended to. He'll be at least twice as bulky everywhere though.

>>5643362
I want to but TFC's combiner pegs history is really spotty. Thankfully it seems to be holding up pretty good with the guys that are out.

>>5640151
What happened with their Superion and Predaking? They don't look great, but I didn't bother with them - did something really disastrous happen?

>>5643742

Uranos is their Superion, Ares is their Predaking. If you're gonna get a Predaking, it's pretty much MMC's Feral Rex or nothing. Other companies Predaking's are plagued with joint problems.

>>5643796
their is the Weijang Into The Sky Feral Rex KO. But if you get a shit one you're s.o.l. gotta cross your fingers for one without qc issues.

>>5643805

Yeah, I don't like playing lotto with my figures.

>>5643807
>Doesn't like playing Lotto with figures
>follows a 3rd party thread

This isn't at you in general, but everyone including myself. Why do we spend so much money on these 3rd parties when every now and then a figure is complete and utter shit and no one knows until they buy it for a crazy price?

This whole thing is a gamble. We are gambling our money on tiny pieces of plastic where we lose money regardless of if the toy is shit or not. Yet we can't stop. I can't stop. It's plastic crack.

I want off this ride. I want off I say!

>oooh a 3rd party mp quality blitzwing
Okay I'll stay.

>>5643796
I know, I was asking because I was curious if it was something like widespread joint failures or just "they look real real fugly."

>>5643962
>This isn't at you in general, but everyone including myself. Why do we spend so much money on these 3rd parties when every now and then a figure is complete and utter shit and no one knows until they buy it for a crazy price

Because I watch several reviews for and ask on several forums as to the quality, imperfections, and possible issues about anything before I buy it.

...And despite all that my very first 3P figure, new in the box, was missing weapon parts. The company replaced them right away and the figure is otherwise perfect, but shit happens I guess.

>>5643971

I know the Ares and (whatever the other 3P Predaking is, I forget) both suffer from joint issues and breakage issues. One of them has possibly the scariest fucking wing attachment for Divebomb ever. MMC's is the only one thats generally solid all the way through.

Other random shit I know is Quantron is difficult to get set up and has some bitchy transformations that also are apparently easy to break to boot.

>>5643975
I've seen pictures of Uranos and I've never liked them. The vehicle modes are pretty good, but the combined mode... cripes. Ugly headsculpt, weird broken-up chestplate, the legs are just a mess (yes, yes, I know they're G1-accurate but that doesn't mean they look good), and the whole thing just looks awkward as all get out.

It seems to suffer from what I'm going to term Warbotron Syndrome: greebles add up so much that the final robot just turns into a mess.

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>>5643962

At least they're easy to get most of your money back for unless they're universally considered complete garbage. And if that's the case I wouldn't have bought it cause reviews would have been negative. But yeah I do occasionally end up with something that's kind of crap that reviewers just all sort of shilled for cause they got it for free and it's only really crap when you consider the price. But like I said I just sell it for about what I paid so it's mostly just disappointing and an inconvenience more than a real loss.

>>5644050
Who'd be the most definitive 3rd party Devastator?

>>5644304
Maketoys Giant

>>5644304
No, it depends on what you want and your budget. Personally, I like how GB looks and the fact that it's parts are integrated. TW looks very G1 in individual modes, but the combined mode is just a off enough to make me disinterested. I will wait until all the GB cons are released to see how stable the combined mode is.

I currently own a Hercules I bought for $170. At that price it's pretty fantastic, but it's hot gardabge for $500+

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>mfw my Feral Rex full set is in stock, paid for, and awaiting shipment

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>>5644748

>Waiting for Generation Toy not-longhaul to drop

>>5645732

Don't worry Anon, I'm sure it'll come out soon. You're pretty brave in investing in a combiner before everyone has torn apart every aspect of it to make sure it'll work well though.

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yes

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very yes

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Oh bb

>>5645954
>Add more articulation to your Magnus!

YES

>Add uneccessary greebles to you Magnus' shins! with five paint apps on that one part!

NO

>>5645954
>>5645955

Hey, what's that then?

>>5646068
Oh. Oh yes. This is such a cute little set, I want it already. Hopefully this Dr Wu things actually happens.

>>5644304
Maketoys Giant is the better toy but still not definitive. Truth is, we don't have a perfect Devastator yet.

>>5646068
Oh god I hope Legends Kickback is finally made because having the three Insecticon Legends with these guys as guns would be too much. In a good way.

>>5646068
Oh no they're so ridiculously bitty, I need them.

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>>5646068
WOOT, now i dont have to buy the $35 WST Kickback on Shapeways

i've wanted tiny Insecticons since they showed up in TF Devastation

>>5646068
Dr Wu? What the hell, have they just completely scrapped that Mixmaster then?

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>>5646068
Hopefully these actually go into production. unlike their WST Perceptor, announced years ago and never saw the light of day...

>>5646075
they added a dab of yellow and black and there is almost no extra greeble I noticed. you need to unclench your ass.

>>5646211
Those things on the bottoms of the shins are pushing it a bit though

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>>5646211
>>5646285
same company also made new forearms for CW Devastator, the forearms also have five different paint apps on them and clash with Devy's heavily G1-based looks

>>5645954
I want to see how it works with the transformation first, but this looks promising.

>>5644304
Depends on what you want out of it: maximum playability, type of aesthetic (G1 accurate, more like a UC toy, realistic, typical 3rd party aesthetic, etc), size class, level of integration of combiner bits, emphasis on gestault, individual bot, or vehicle modes?

Each NotDevastator has different strengths in each of those properties, but which property you value the most is what'll be the deciding factor.

>>5646199
Awww,he's so cute.

>>5645743

I really like the crew so far. Mixmaster poses like a bitch but everything else is pretty top shelf.

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>>5645732
>waiting for Toyworld not-longhaul to be shown in color

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>>5647596
>tiny hands

>>5647596
>far right
THIC

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>>5647610
>Manletguar

He's beef as fuck but a good 3cm shorter than the rest of the team, especially Leozack.

>>5647596
this seems like a great effort by TFC.

i hope it inspires other companies to tackle the team though, as im not a fan of TFC's aesthetic

>>5647643

MMC Liokaiser when?

>>5647643
Sadly at this point it's getting obvious that the ye olde combiner setup is not cutting it anymore, especially at this size. Dry fitted everything today and while /everything/ locks super hard the leg combiner port is just a bit floppy and not nearly as solid as it deserves considering how strong the rest of the combiner parts are. Almost don't have the strength to yard apart Jallguar and Leozack from torso mode and Hellbat can't actually even make the shoulder joint budge out from between them with his ratcheting

>>5647660
After Lockdown, Overlord, Tarn, Drift, Wing, Obsidian, Strika, Cyclonus, Thunderwing, Rumble, Laserbeak, Grapple, Artfire, Diaclone Mirage, and OX Defensor

Plus any black repaints of the above plus con exclusives.

>>5648061

Don't be cruel Anon. Overlord and Tarn first is OK, but the rest of those? Fuck no, Liokaiser deserves it more, especially after MMC proved it makes probably the best combiner around.

>>5648066
MMC already said their next combiner is going to be Abominus.

What's more likely to be harder to get down the road (like end of summer). MX-II Andras, or MP-08X Reximus Prime?

I want to pick up both but unfortunately weird things are going on right now and I can only get one. Which would be wiser to purchase first? I dont want to miss my chancs on either.

>>5648166
I think you'll be fine either way. 3P stuff selling out and going for crazy aftermarket prices isn't really an issue anymore except for rare exceptions.

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Toyworlds new Prime

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>>5648526

>>5646068
YES. That Chop Shop Targetmaster is one of my favorite little dudes to play with. A whole set of tiny Insecticons would give me the warm and fuzzies forever.

>>5646068
this better be the other insecticons and not the lame brain purple black and yellow ones

>>5648574
>hating on purple, black and yellow
Nigga, what?

>>5648526
Do we really need another fucking G1 Prime?

>>5648577
Do we really need another lame brain purple back and yellow insections? Change it up a bit turd parties.

>>5648580
They're just targetmasters. Having them to match their Legends counterparts would be the biggest appeal here. Barrage, Chop Shop and Ransack should get their own legit toys first.

>>5648526
>>5648531
I guess this is for people triggered by fake grill and sausage truck bed.

WHY ARENT YOU WORKING ON MID IDW MAGNUS AND BOMBER MEGATRON TOYWORLD

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>>5648526
>>5648531
>nobody asked for this.
>tire butt

>>5648526

It looks nice and I know I will probably end up getting it.

But I don't understand why this was needed.

>>5647596

Crap in a hat. Wait, is it six or five?

>>5648750
Six. There's still one leg and one arm to be released.

>>5648813
It would be cool if they made Deathcobra as an optional 7th member you can use in place of Hellbat.

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>>5648694
>tire butt
That actually originated from Prime's Studio Ox design, Toyworld's Devy is also base don Studio Ox

its funny, Toyworld seems to be going with a Studio OX route, but they're not doing it accurately

>>5648531
>>5648526
The only thing I really like about this is the grill and the bumper.

I'd love a more realistic looking truck mode, like the Evasion movie Prime but some bastard hybrid release that looks like a real truck.

>>5648580
We'll get the purple black and yellow ones first because it'll have the biggest audience and then we'll get g2 bugs. That's how it always go. Assuming these come out at all.

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>>5648526
His legs remind me of ice-cream sandwiches

well, mmc seraph and spartan shipped. cuz fuck tfcc. so the wait begins

>>5651295

Nice.

Oh hey, apparently PE is restocking their original CW hand/foot sets soon.

BBTS is taking preorders, noticed while browsing.

Speaking of PE, aside from then and noneff do we have any other hand and feet from 3p?

>>5631768
i'm hoping there's going to be a 3rd party strongarm
after debating and debating, i finally broke down and decided to get RID strongarm. and it's just so hollow and preschool.

dinobot (the one in g1 color scheme) is okay.

>>5651380
>dinobot (the one in g1 color scheme) is okay.

you mean grimlock?

>>5651386
snap. my bad. yeah. i don't know why typed it like that.

>>5648813

Noice.

>>5631768
anyone pick this set up?
how is Galvatron?
can you post pics?

>>5651501

Got the set yesterday. Fun little set, worth picking up, would be real fun with official Unicron.

Cyclonus appears to have an upgrade, a peg and hole in the back of the head to keep the nosecone in position. I don't see any changes to Galvatron and Scourge.

>>5651530
>a peg and hole in the back of the head to keep the nosecone in position
i heard they also gave him thigh swivels for this release

>>5651534
I didn't know that was a change. But yeah, he has those too.

>>5647596
How's the bend on Not-Liokaiser's knee and are his thighs as stumpy as they look in pictures?

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>>5651633
Knees bend to 90 degrees, perfectly acceptable and I'm pretty confident the feet will hold him up too. Thighs are a bit stumpy but it's obvious to me that they were aiming for a Brave-esque Obari aesthetic for him, and with the wings everywhere and the shape of everything from the waist up, it works.

>>5651649

From looking at some review vids, the feet look like total shit. Way too skinny. Any idea how they'll actually perform since you've got it in-hand? Or no idea because theres only one leg guy out?

>>5651658
Well there's a massively strong ratchet in each direction, so no worries about stability there, just worried that they don't have the width to keep him up. That being said, won't know till I get Drillhorn in hand. Since each limb is essentially a heavy, heavy retool, he's gonna at least be extremely balanced since even his backpack isn't very big.

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>>5651649
>Thighs are a bit stumpy but it's obvious to me that they were aiming for a Brave-esque Obari aesthetic for him
seems that way to me as well.
but it doesnt have Obari style lovely large thighs, so it undermines it...

>>5651671
True, but I only care is he can crotch thrust, and since his neck joint extends and seems purpose built to be able to angle his face down menacingly, I don't think that Gravion/Compachi Kaiser/Dancouga/etc pose will be impossible.

>>5651530
Does Galvy have an ankle swivel?

>>5651649

>clear decepticon stickers put halfway over gold paint/grey plastic seperation
>also partway over a tiny little greeble nub

Ya fucking blew it.

>>5651976
yeah but

>decepticon logo on the crotch

that earns him extra points

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>>5651976
How else would I replicate the original without resculpting the wings to remove the nubs? Guyhawk and Hellbat will work but Leozack has too much sculpted detail.

New thread >>>5652071