Transformers general : catalogue edition

>>5609760
beautiful - brings back a lot of good memories. thanks for brightening up the day

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>>5609760
Modern Throttlebots when?

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Shitty day. Not very productive. Got rained on.

Popped into my local toy shop and who should I see but motherfucking WRECK-GAR? I didn't even know this guy was out anywhere, never mind the UK. We're usually 1-2 waves behind, but there he was at the front of the pegs.

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>>5609824
Unfortunately, the Groove mould is a little... low-to-the-ground. Getting a 1986 Movie situation with Junkions riding one another around is going to be problematic with this figure

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DARE TO BE STUPID

>>5604243

previous thread.

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You know what's weird.

trying to find a reissue Beast Wars Cheetors and finding out that the reissues go for more than the originals who are MISB.

that's so fucking strange.

I need one for Ian Corlett to sign at TFCon.

>>5609860
Okay.

>>5609860
The original Cheetor got a ton of releases in the first year(blue eyes, green eyes, and red eyes version) and was scalped a lot back then. so there's probably quite a few mint ones on the market which killed its value. Also 90's toys in general don't really jump in price with a few exceptions(because people where aware of toys growing in value and thus kept a lot of pristine copies,ironically having the opposite effect and sinking the value. Pricy toys tend to be so out of rarity.). Plus BW fans tend to go for show accuracy over vintage, and most Cheetor releases after the first mimicked the show colors.

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Lets say you get to chose who gets an update in the post Titan Wars line. For the sake of variety let's pretend it'll be like thrilling 30, with designs across generations.

I'd have a voyager Polar Claw. Make the bat an automorphing gimmick rather than a launched one, where it can go from being the beast claw, to bat, to a gun. Make the mutant mask a visor like Movie Bumblebee's. Maybe rework the left arm pop out claw gimmick to be a better weapon. And of course make the beast mode a lot better.

>>5609818
They still haven't finished the minibots so it's better that they don't start right now.

>>5609902
Did they have plans to make him Soundwave? So much says it's at least inspired by Soundwave.

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>>5609902
This bad boy deserves an update.

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>>5609902

Polar Claw was actually featured somewhat recently in IDW. He got torn in half and Guzzle drank his energonblood (whatever) like a frat boy at a kegger.

That said, THE FUCKING PREDACONS. WHERE IS MY FUCKING CHUG PREDAKING, HASTAK? WHERE?

>>5609902
I want a MP polar claw 100%.

>>5609902
Transquito

>>5609910
I actually liked the Wreckers attempts at doing Maximals/Predacons. Far better than that colony nonsense Scott and Hasbro has been trying to sell to us for like 15 years.

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>>5609915
I really regret not picking one up a couple of years ago when BBTS had it really cheap.

>>5609931
Didn't he use gold plastic?

>>5609934

Mine's still fine after nearly 20 years.

>>5609873

I just wish I could get one under $40 shipped to Canada.

>>5609902
>>5609909

Sideways is one, I'd also love to have a Classics version of Prime Knock Out or TFA Bulkhead.

>>5609909
>Post Titan Wars

>>5609935
Huh, I wonder why he didn't crumble.

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>>5609943
I don't want him to be in TR, his head/minicon gimmick is too different and I want the full experience.

>>5609967
>Two alternate heads too hard

>>5609971
No, he means like they're their own little bots that can ride him in vehicle mode and what not.

>>5609971
Two alternate heads is one thing, but making them combine and have good articulation is another.

>>5609989
Let's not forget that they could plug in to the side of his arms and be used as targetmasters as well.

>>5609989
You just have the backpack face part have two limbs hanging off that become the antlers in head mode. Armada was done on a shoestring budget, so of could a healthy Hasbro could do it better

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>>5610006
I suppose that's true, but would they bother though?
I probably have to wait 20 years for a Masterpiece Sideways to get it all right.

>>5610043
>Masterpiece of some one-shot character from the dark ages

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>>5610048
>dark ages

Takara's already doing MP Beast wars

>>5610048

Armada/Energon/Cybertron were so not the dark ages.

The dark ages was that period where no new Transformers figures/fiction was released in North America. So 1990/91 to 1993.999

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>>5609902
Battletrap, Voyager class made of two deluxe sized vehicles, each with an alt-mode ala MASK.

>>5610057
>>5610058
>Not know that dark ages means "whatever I don't like"
C'mon son

>>5609934
>>5609955
I don't believe so. Mine had one of his purple insect leg sockets break, but the gold/bronze parts are all fine.

>>5609760
Hello, first time poster. How friendly are you all? I have a question about Transformer toys.

>>5610112
I am friendly as fuck mother fucker, now tell me what you want to know right the fuck now.

>>5610112
Are you a girl

>>5610118
Well I always wanted to buy an Optimus Prime ever since I was a kid but never got around to it. None of the live action movie ones because the design sucks. Looking for one more or as close to G1 as possible and die cast as well. I suspect that what I want is really specific and probably really rare and expensive in today's market. I looked up some Optimus Primes like the Year of the Horse version and they're super expensive, like $190 USD. What I want to know is where should I check from time to time for new transformer toy releases? I suspect when these are available for preorder and such they are much cheaper.

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>>5609760
>>5609770

is this a Brave reference?

>>5610129
http://www.tf-direct.com/free-shipping-kubianbao-mp10-v-with-trailer-and-jetback_p1249.html

>>5610141
Oh this is cool. What does Voyager Class mean? Also I've never heard of this company before, are they legit or is this one of those knock off producing companies?

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>Imperfect Megatron
>Semi-Perfect Megatron-Megatron after absorbing the spark of G1 Megatron
>Perfect Megatron-Megatron after absorbing a third Megatron's spark

>>5610149
It's a KO. The real thing doesn't use as much diecast and costs at least $150.

>>5610150
kek.

but shouldnt Transmetal 3 Megatron be Super Perfect Cell? and Earth mode Megatron be Imperfect Cell?

>>5610150
Every time I see TM 3 Megatron, the sadder I feel for the lost potential.

>>5610155
Oh so if i want like a legit transforming die cast optimus I must be willing to shell out money then. Where do you find news on upcoming Transformer toys?

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>>5610129
If you wait until later in the year, there's a Leader-Class Optimus Prime available based on his G1 Powermaster.

He not only turns into a truck and a robot, but a 'base' mode as well, and his head pops off and becomes a little robot

>>5610149
Voyager class refers to a size class of about 6-8 inches in Transformers. Usually refers to $25-30 dollar retail toys but it's come to be associated with Transformers of that size in general. That figure is a KO of a larger figure.

Anyway, it may help if you say what else you collect, how much you're willing to spend, etc. It would help me find the best option for your collection. As a starter,t he Classics Voyager Optimus is a good G1 Optimus, albeit a non-diecast one.

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>>5610129
Titanium Optimus Prime is pretty cheap and contains Die Cast, but not very G1-esque.

>>5610172
Holy god in high heaven this is exactly what I want. Oh my god yes where can I preorder this? When is it coming out? I need this in my life so I can die with no regrets?

>>5610176
Oh I see. Well I stopped collecting stuff for about 10 years or so. I'll be 32 this year and I was recently thinking about things I've wanted to get done or obtain in my life and remembered when I was around 5 and my die cast optimus prime got stolen by an older kid in school.

>>5610178
Looks like the war for cybertron design.

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>>5610163
HasTak isn't in the business of doing diecast figures anymore. Your best bets are KOs and 3rd parties. If you're rolling in cash and don't care about transformation, try the Ultimetal Optimus. It's a licensed 3rd party figure. I believe the Fewture EX Gokin Optimus also has some diecast, that one is closer to a Super Robot Chogokin in terms of play and feel.

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>>5610129
Might be into the MP-01. It's very large, but it's hefty with die-cast and comes with quite a bit of cool features. It shouldn't run you as much money if you get him pre-owned w/o box (which is common). I got mine for $70 complete with a little bit of wear, for example.

Alternatively, a KO MP-10. It shouldn't cost you $100 though.

>>5610185
Powermaster Optimus Prime is in the first wave of the Titans Return sub-line, which will drop into stores around Summer. No official release date but 3~ months until they show up Stateside?

Legit question about an upcoming platinum edition release. How much will the Cyclonus (and his huntsman) set be, and when/where will it be released?

>>5610112

what is it son?

>>5610188
Wow that's pretty beautiful. I understand now, guess times change and so does the materials used.

>>5610190
I think I shouldn't be using Amazon to price these things because they're super expensive there. Can you suggest a reputable site to buy from?

>>5610193
Okay gotcha. Thanks for the info.

>>5610209
I recommend BBTS or TFsource. If you want to order stuff from Takara (the Japanese supplier/manufacturer of TFs) I would suggest HLJ. (Hobby Link Japan I think)

Excuse me, BBTS is BigBadToyStore.

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So I've never really bought anything online before, what are the best online stores to order from if you live in Scandinavia?

>>5610205
Too much, no where convenient

>>5610222

Probably Kapow Toys or HobbyLinkJapan.

>>5609937
Knock out might be too soon. Comic characters are one thing, but his original mold sat in stores forever not long ago.

>>5610245
Thanks, I'll check them out.

>>5610247
I thought Knock Out was one of the more popular characters from Prime. His toy really didn't do him justice.

>>5610257
Yeah his toy was awful, he deserved better.

>>5609760
I still have that one.
>tfw toys these days barely have cross-sells on the bottom, let alone catalogues

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>>5610172

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Found these cheap little keychains at Michael's.

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>>5610316
I love my MP Shocks.

>>5610205
Way too much. Platinum releases are notorious for being insanely expensive. Expect it to cost over double their individual releases.

>>5609902
Deluxe Class Barricade. A fully original mold that isn't just a black Prowl repaint. Maybe it'd come with a minicon Frenzy, too, somewhat resembling his g1 design in movie colors.

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>>5610303
I'm pretty tempted to pick up pic related though.
Just look at this glorious fucker.

>>5610310
Why?

>>5610316
Man, I don't care for Shockwave and I'm kind of tempted.

Normally I'd just get a third party since they're cheaper now, but MP Shockwave is cute...

>>5610330
Not him, but people have given numerous reasons to not like the toy:

-Cab doesn't transform into regular Optimus Prime
-Not having PM Prime's guns
-Head looks bad
-The empty space in his arms, and just as bad that there's a piece of the trailer stuck to the arm (disappointing they couldn't make the trailer part a separate piece, have the hollow part be on the section the trailer piece covers, and have the trailer piece go over it).
-Chest piece looks, and it doesn't look anything like Hi-0 (I never liked the PM going over the grill, but if the chest was a homage, it did a poor job of it since no one could tell what it was suppose to be when it was first revealed).
-The cab looks nothing like G1 Prime's cab, or his Classic cab (I personally don't like the cab since it looks like one of those deformed hot wheel that came out years ago, with a grill that's too big, and windows that are way too small)

I think that's all. I think PM Prime deserved it's own mold, and had been something like a Supreme class.

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>>5610334
>MP Shockwave is cute
thats part of my problem with him. its difficult to make him look imposing...

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>>5610347
>Chest piece looks, and it doesn't look anything like Hi-0

the chest piece's biggest problem is it's taken almost straight off a movie toy. It's the waist armor from this toy. It's meant for a totally different design aesthetic which is why it's out of place here.

>>5610347
Just wait and see what Takara does with him

>had been something like a Supreme class.
okay, dont be stupid

>>5610185
>Looks like the war for cybertron design.
It came was designed back in the early 2000's.

>>5610329
All the dark energon figures are definitely worth picking up. Especially at the super discounted price. If you like the prime figures, that is. I especially love not-goldbug BB.

>>5610362
>it's taken almost straight off a movie toy. It's the waist armor from this toy
you're fucking stupid and i do wish you'd stop making this claim

>>5610363

they'll go with more of a silver than the sand-toned gray, and blue hands. I don't expect them to get rid of the chest piece though and the hollow arms will stay, Tomy is just fucking lazy with the brand more often than not. The headmaster might get better paints.

I can live with the hollow arms, my only real issue is the Bayformers chest. Though Hasbro's colors are a touch bland but Tomy would have to replace the chest before I drop $80 on an import, slightly better colors alone aren't going to open my wallet.

>>5610363
What's wrong with what I said? Adding a transforming cab, and a higher cost could help fix some of the problems.

>>5610367
too bad the FUCKING PHOTO proves it right, you blind asshole. I wish you'd stop being a massive faggot.

>>5610209
>Can you suggest a reputable site to buy from?

Big Bad Toy Store, TF Source, Amazon, Hasbro Toy Shop.

Just you need to watch on Amazon, usually shit will be put up by obvious scalpers before Amazon itself puts it up. That prime you want is going to be a Leader class (around 8-10 inches in height), and around $45-50 MSRP.

>>5610347
see also
>promo art shows the front of the trailer enclosed but hasbro couldn't be assed to pay for a small flip down panel to cover the opening

I would indeed agree, PMOP should have gotten a bit better treatment than "IDW's magnus impersonator cosplaying as PMOP", but of course, we're asking too much. hasbro's gone mold reuse happy with the "collector oriented" side of stuff since they can't do much with half the molds from their "main" line due to the whole "lol decepticons iz aminulls" thing.

>>5610347
>Cab doesn't transform into regular Optimus Prime
Wait what? So the trailer is the transformable optimus? Fucking dropped.

>>5610375
why would they utilize the dick design of movie Prime unto G1 Prime's chest? what is the thought process behind that?

>>5610373
supreme class too big, bro. also i dont think that class is a thing anymore?

>>5610370
Ginrai's pretty popular over there, so Takara might give enough of a crap for some minor remolding.

I can't get over one thing about the new Powermasters Optimus Prime; why go through the trouble of doing an extensive retool of the cab and NOT make it look more like the classic cab? They might as well had use the Ultra Magnus cab, and replaced the roof to accommodate the helmet piece.

>>5610382
Supreme class doesn't always mean bigger. We had a gigantic Starscream in the Cybertron line, and a much smaller Primus. And don't be a jerk just because I stated an opinion.

>>5610379
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I'll answer anyway. The whole thing turns into Powermaster Optimus Prime, while the original did that but also had the trailer turn into a smaller Optimus similar to the original G1 version.

>>5610362
This looks awesome. Which Optimus Prime is it?

>>5610172
need to use better pics for this optimus, the cg shots don't do it justice.

>>5610394
You're going to wait until he's released, or some crazy guy pays a ton of money to get it early. The display pics don't show him off too well.

>>5610399
this ones not too bad, display pics are batter than the renders, tak won't have to do much he looks like super ginrai, don't like the faux hi-q grill? pull it off

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>>5610403
woops, meant to post pic

>>5610347
>people have given numerous reasons to not like the toy:

>almost all of them boil down to autistic nitpicking

>>5610409
>autistic nitpicking
>in the Transformers fandom
And in other news, water is still wet, the sky is still blue and you're still a faggot.

>>5610409
In a line meant to pander to old fans, you don't expect people to bitch when a toy disappoints them by not living up to their expectations?

>>5610409
How about it just looks cheap as fuck as a reason for not liking it?

I'm sure you can understand this free of mental disorder

>>5610406
That looks awesome, but they better make the inside of those arms red.

>>5610403
I'm sure some third party will make an actual Hi-Q to replace the grill with.

So Transformers have been blocky late 70-80s looks, mechanical version of lifeform, cartoony robots, realistic but alien, and tron space look. What kind of design should be used in the future?

>>5610421
>expecting effort from Hasbro

>>5610406
I don't mind the actually look of the figure if a but hollow. But I really don't like Hasbro deco if it looks anything like this. That cream unpainted plastic isn't doing it for me. I'll wait and see what Takara does with the mold.

>>5610425
I'd say steampunk, but we got that already

>>5610425
>realistic but alien
>realistic
>alien

What do you know that we don't, anon?

>>5610425
What about animals?

>>5610431
would it be possible to make gothic punk robots?
Or does it not work on machinery?

>>5610436
Alien as in are not how a human would set about designing one typically.

>>5610431
I mean kind of, but not a big release.

How about sci-fi dieselpunk? Big rusty engines and stuff.

>>5610452
>Big rusty engines and stuff.
Sounds like ROTF Jetfire.

>>5610452
>>5610454

Misread this as 'big busty engine'

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>>5610452
>>5610454
Titanic Tidal Wave when?

>>5610457
I mean, I'd be on board for that too.

Masterpiece Rescue Bots when

>>5610473
Sometime around the 853rd century.

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>>5610469
>Titanic Tidal Wave


>Armada Tidal Wave splits in three halves

>Titanic Tidal Wave splits in two

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>>5610469
relevant

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>>5610425

>>5610496
Vehicle modes are tweaked to look like living organisms despite being things like cars, planes, etc?
I can dig it.

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>>5610477
kek

>>5610427
>That cream unpainted plastic isn't doing it for me.
Have you ever seen the original toy? Aside from a white crotch-plate, that unpainted cream gray is pretty accurate.

>>5610172
Yea, this is one of those cases where the product looks a lot better in person than in those shitty little CGI renders Hasbro has been doing lately.

>>5610550
Nope, don't really care about the original toy. I think it looks bad on this one.

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I'm beyond tempted to preorder UW Computron.

>That badass Rook retool
Shame it still has the regular hands and feet.

>>5610577
I've got it on preorder from HLJ, but there's a better deal on Anime-Import.com. Has anyone ever used them? I don't know anything about them?

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>>5610589
>Anime-Import.com
They're legit.

>>5610592
Oh fuck me. I mixed it up.

anime-export.com not import.

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>>5610477
>Three halves
>They package one and a half Tidal Waves in each box

>>5610589
They're legit. Just fyi you need to pay upfront for POs.

>>5610596
It might be a better deal from there. If I knew the weight I could work out the shipping cost for a better rough cost.

>>5610606
After working it out I'd save about £10.

wonder how long liokaiser will take to be officially revealed, will he be a giftset too?

>>5610624
Computron is a giftset in all regions. I'd imagine Liokaiser would be too, considering TR is beginning in only a few months.

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>>5610624
Could the "also look for" part imply that he would be released around the same time as Computron?
I mean they usually do that for figures in the same wave.

>>5610642
sometimes it just a future wave thing

>>5610496
I'd be up for appliance tfs desu

>>5610502
So... transmetals? it had hybrid beast-vehicle modes.

>>5610596
I've preordered one thing from them and they shipped me the wrong item, refused to do an exchange, ignored emails, spent months trying to get in contact and nothing.

Before you say do a charge back on paypal, it was a preorder done in the summer and past the limit when it was out in the winter.

>>5610393
Ultimate Optimus Prime from Dark of the Moon.

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My Deadlock custom turned out pretty close to what Takara ended up doing. Only took them like 5 years to make it happen.

>>5610710
Did you end up getting something more expensive or better than what you ordered?

>>5609824
That should mean that Shockwave is also out over there, right?

I got the transformers RID battle pack of Grimlock and some ball guy.

Minimal paint apps aside I like it.

Any other good ones from the two packs?

I'll probably get Strong Arm for sure and maybe Sideswipe's repaint.

>>5610848
If they include extra stuff for free, that's generous, but there's no such thing as "better" and "more expensive" shouldn't be a factor.
If you order something, the package should contain what you actually fucking paid for initially.

>>5610863

They're all pretty good. Sideswipe's my favorite.

>>5609903
Fuck that.

Modern Throttlebots WHEN?

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>>5610870
They released a new Goldbug in Thrilling 30 (Named Goldfire), but that's about it.

>>5610868
I'll get Swipe Alert because he comes with a weapon minicon.

>>5610870
inbefore goldbug repaint using Blackjack.

>>5610865
Of course, but if they fucked up and didn't do anything to fix the situation, I'd rather have something that I can resell to recover the costs, than something that's wortless.

>>5610870
Don't take it the wrong way, I just don't want them to release Goldbug, and another Throttle both (like Chase) only for them to stop for years.

>>5610870
I want a new Wideload. We don't get a ton of construction vehicle tfs that aren't the Constructicons.

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>>5610870
>when

A few years ago.

>>5610178
it's also heavy. Not even the arms stay on

>>5610935
So still nothing yet.

>>5610947
No, there's clearly five Throttlebots in that photo.

>>5610950
Where?

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>>5610967
Stop being a moron. There's 5 modern takes on the Throttlebots in the picture, just what you asked for.

>>5610970
Takara or Hasbro.

>>5610978
>?*

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>>5610978
You didn't specify that. All you said was modern take. And who cares if Takara or Hasbro makes it, only autists care about company loyalty.

>>5610878

They also named Goldbug Goldfire in his alt costume in Devastation as well.

>>5610978
Toyworld, unofficial 3rd party company. If you want em, expect to pay ridiculous prices.

Several of them have gotten decent quality knockoffs, though.

>>5610980
Oh you mean a question in a thread about name brand transformers asking for modern versions of the throttlebots means we can answer with the wrong answer?

>>5609902

Id like to see Pretenders come back

>>5611004
If they come back, don't expect they'll probably be vehicles that fit inside a larger toy's chest, be Megapretenders like Thunderwing, attack themselves on a backpack, or just continue making them mixtures of their robot and pretender shells.

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>>5610150

>>MFW They never put G1 Megatron's spark back, causing a continuity hole.

>>5610347

So in other words, the primary reason they don't like the toy is because they're complete and utter faggots.

Gotcha

>>5610347
>I think PM Prime deserved it's own mold, and had been something like a Supreme class.

You have to stop thinking in these terms. From the design pov the one mold was designed for both characters (UM and PMOP) in mind.

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>>5610416

>>5610863

Optimus is pretty good, too.

But dont bother trying to combine the armor together. The end result isnt worth it.

What would be a good CHUG/HFTD-styled head for Movie Barricade to make him look less like a Bayformer?

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>>5611030
Yeah, the "deserving its own mold" train of thought worked when all "retool" meant was a new head. Nowadays retools get 70% new parts compared to what is considered the first use.

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>>5611053
Is Onslaught Demolishor the second unused pretool head we've seen of late?

>>5610409
Fuck off, Jin, take your blind Hasbro love and your MUH ADVICE and jump into the nearest lake with a weight on your ankles, you fucking ass.

How dare us not buy things we don't like!

You fucking fag. No wonder you're friends with Walky and back GamerHate.

>>5611021
It was strongly implied since they did that with Optimus' as well.

>>5610403
>don't like the faux hi-q grill? pull it off

too bad the side bits holding the torso together are part of the Bayformers-waist chest piece so you really can't take it off without affecting the toy.

>>5611059
Holy shit, if they released this as Transmetal 1 Megatron I would've bought it up pretty damn fast.

>>5611053
That's a bit of an odd situation. For me, a lot of the appeal in a Transformer is the engineering, and only the most drastic of remolds (like Hot Spot to Onslaught) can significantly alter a figure's transformation. It's why I still get antsy about picking up the CW Aerialbots, because they mostly break down into being almost identical bar a different backpack.

>>5611021
they did. but cut the scene.
it's in the extras in the dvd box set.

who knows why they cut it?

man, transmetals was an exciting time to be a fan

>>5611097
The episode was running long, hence why the scene was cut.

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Got Tarantulas in the mail today!!!! Been wanting this baby ever since he was announced last fall!

Never had the Rook mold so it's a new experience. The Tarantulas color scheme makes the mold come alive IMHO.

That said, one big problem: the hand/foot attachment does not work with the other CW molds I own/tried it with. And the hand blaster pegs? Only the left one seemed to hold hands/feet Hulk hand style.

But it's a fun standard figure and a worthy remake of such a classic BW figure

>>5611111
you say "hence" but the scene was all of 7 seconds. i'm sure there was something *not* plot-hole inducing they could have cut instead.

>>5611119
i'd love to see him next to the darksyde crew. anyone have both?

>>5611046
Might as well stick any head on there if you insist on killing his unique look. No CHUG head is going to look any more or less like Barricad' s head so use anything.

>>5611080

They were like that in G1 too. Most planebots are the same anyway: Robot underside, jet backpack.

>>5611046

May as well just look for the FSS Barricade then

>>5611139
Yeah, I know they were like that in G1. And I didn't really like them in G1, either. I understand why they're like that - it's just being accurate - but it doesn't exactly entice me to pick them up.

>>5610061
Wait for DUAL WARS.
Two vehicles form one robot.
But all toys are 1984 characters again.

>>5611154
So like Prowl would be a Datsun for the boobs and legs would be from a motorcycle, APC or F-1 car?
Sounds like it might be interesting, but the naming scheme doesn't make sense except for ones that have compound names for cross combinations. Like how the original you could make a FlyTrap and BattleWheels.

>>5611159
Like that stopped hasbro.

You could also swap the legs and torso parts.

>>5611159
>>5611160
ENERGON IS BACK BABY

>>5611030
if it was designed with PMOP in mind it does a pisspoor job of showing it.

and who the fuck do you think you are to tell people what terms to think in, faggot?

>>5611148

It's hard to make a jetbot that isn't just a robot with a plane on it's back, though. Like, there just aren't that many ways of doing it, especially when so many of them feature the wings prominently in their alt modes to boot.

>>5610061
A sudden thought on the subject of duocons:
>Get TR Overlord
>Paint it using Skytread Titan Master for reference
>Attach Skytread
>CHUG Flywheels

>>5611206
There are thousands of cases of just that. Just looking at G1, you had Powerglide, the Seekers (though they partformed to pull it off), Blitzwing (who crammed in a whole extra mode), Broadside, Octane, and a ton of others. And if you look at the more modern stuff, "plane backpack" engineering is vanishingly rare - Animated had Lugnut, Blitzwing, and Starscream, who (though they had backpacks) all had different transformation schemes and incorporated most of the jet into the robot mode.

The reason the Aerialbots are like that is a mix of G1 accuracy and their combiner parts taking up so much of their engineering. Like I said, I know why it is - I just don't really feel like picking up four robots that transform identically.

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>>5611211
I think my favorite plane transformer in terms of unique scheme has to be Reveal the Shield Lugnut.
The wings becoming his arms without looking weedy amazes me to no end.

>>5611206
>>5611211
Not to mention CHUG Terradive, Armada Thrust, and Armada Starscream, both new and old. Also, really any seeker mold.

>>5611273
>CHUG Terradive
It's not a CHUG. It's ROTF. don't confuse people.

>>5610935
I'm not crazy enough about them to pay that much for the full set.
If Hasbro did the Throttlebots as Legends class then I would buy them all in a heartbeat.

>>5611207
Honestly, I think Overlord is just gonna be a triple changer so they could retool it into Blitzwing.
The Skytread head would probably look decent on Blitzwing though.

>>5610733
im impressed, and you painted this?

Not bad, your paint apps are better than most of hasbro's attempts, yes that's a compliment before you read that wrong!

...does it handle transformations well or too thick to risk it?

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Any mp-11NR owners?

No, or just too scared to talk, k den.

I posted last thread about takara tomy doing a recall because of the shoulder issue, here is a diagram of what is correct, and what isn't, next I'll post how to identify it via what this causes

>>5611292
It's not a ROTF. It's HFTD, don't confuse people.

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>>5611319
Basically if this peg that clips into the wings doesn't work you're fucked.

I better contact my distributor, mine hasn't come (mine is from hasbro asia) but I am concerned for me and my other fellow collectors.

Its tough being a fan of seekers, but am glad they began the recall, they care enough to get this shit sorted.

...shame generations blitzwing never got recalled, that was just as bad, if not worse and even takara back then ignored it.

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>>5611321
Dunno why but the post from seibertron is gone, but while looking for it I found ANOTHER issue, one that might end up being ignored.

The circled bits are apparently on the wrong way around

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>>5611325
They even slope the wrong way around, they can be fixed in less than 5mins as the guy who reported it said, but first of all that shouldn't be up to us.

Second it involves drilling, something I know I'd fuck up

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>>5611327
Here they are "corrected", I can see why they might fuck them up judging by the panel lines but that might be the angle of the shots.

Apparently when folding the wings they make a audible "crack" sound until they're fixed

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>>5611328
The "final" result, they do look a little better but its autism if it ticks you off, I could live with this since I'd hardly touch my mp's

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>>5611329
The owner even presented proof of the miss-assembly, seeing how the panel lines on a regular seeker are the same as the "correction".

This is one of the few times I've personally seen (since I only come back to tf once combiner wars started up to be honest, still catching up) where takara has failed.

I'll stop talking about ramjet now since few people show interest (in general not my current postings), but is good (looking up in the thread) people found new ways to enjoy mp shockwave, even if he's more cute than imposing.

Looking at my cw shockwave, I worry if they made a hasbro "toy accurate" version, that purple plastic has a few too many swirls for my liking and best for smaller uses, but the purple paint is pretty, but I doubt they'd paint all of an mp hasbro shockwave, they're known for cost cutting, to paint what takara didn't would be out of character.

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>>5611080
How drastic is drastic, though? To my eye, it seems like Rook/Swindle has more changed parts than Hot Spot/Onslaught. The main difference between the two voyagers is in the backpack, which does change the torso transformation, but is otherwise the same toy.

>>5611358
>head
>shoulders
>chest
>toes
>ladder/back pack

Not easily noticeable as they carry the same vehicle form (mostly) and similar silhouette in robot form

Rook to swindle had the vehicle mode drastic alter by changing the hindged section from an apc top to...what the roof of a 4x4

>>5611119

probably the least worst part of the set.

everything is garbage, this guy is somewhat passable.

>>5611119
You're gonna spoil the surprise!

>>5611394
I actually like the set, but the price it's going for is absolutely ridiculous.

>>5611395
This was a botcon fig, anon. Not one of those "keep it a secret" subscription figs.

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Official predaking when?

I'm amazed we got computron but not predaking, so lets help ease our pain, and come up with ways to bring him into our toy riddled lives.

>repurpose the predacons into vehicles with new heads and colors
>retool select vehicles into animal forms
>while less of a possibility, a gestalt akin to cw/uw devastator, an all original non-play pattern compatible figure

I vote heavy retools as the most realistic possibility, since liokaizer who should be 6 bots is 5 and we know who the next titan figures are.

>>5611417
They could just retool some of the animal headmasters in TR.
Alpha Trion into Razorclaw, Mindwipe into Divebomb and Wolfwire into the remaining ones.

>>5611422
...AND the combining gimmick?

Those bodies aren't made to combine, and while I'm no engineering I'm sure suddenly ramming a combiner peg into them may have some effect on the toy, hell do we know if the headmaster bodies are solid or hollow with only enough emptiness for the head to click into?

>>5611399

considering how most hate it, hopefully it'll go down in price.

>>5611424
I'm pretty sure they could replace the headmaster gimmick with combiner pegs for the limbs, but we'll have to see. I do think the Predacons should get original molds though.
Worst case scenario is non-combining headmaster Predacons, which would suck.

>>5610848
Kinda. I ordered the DMK-03, they sent me DMK-01 who is now more expensive than the AoE body Prime.

I'm more pissed that they refused to do anything about their mistake and ignored me when I would contact them.

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>>5611365
>>5611358
Looking at the Rook mold.. It looks to me like there are more levels of retooling than we'd previously considered.

Rook and Swindle are two vastly different versions of the same basic body, essentially a full reshelling.

Hound is the simple head retool we had grown accustomed to since 2010.

And Nosecone is a weird retooling, replacing parts of the Rook mold, but not enough to make it as distinct as Swindle.

I know toy engineering isn't as intricate as it was at the height of ROTF/Generations, but those designers sure know how to make good use of a mold.

>>5611319
>takara tomy does another misassembly
Ugh. I'm still annoyed that they botched their recent Blackarachnia.

>>5611427
>most hate it

Really its mostly sour-grapers here. combiner Wars is one of the biggest lines in years, and Botcon BW homages tend to hold up well in price. The Tripredacus trio will probably stay in the $300 range, Tarantulas will probably hover around 80-120, Ravage is the only one I can see truly sinking in value.

>>5611506
What's wrong with it?

>dur hur the neck has a gap
Apparently you need to give it more force and it covers the gap, worked for me, VERY common this one

>>5611522
Legs were misassembled on a large number of samples.

>>5611525
Oh my, never knew this one, thankfully mine was fine

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>>5611417
What I'd really want is a Titan Predakng. He should be huge, like Devastator. Not really a citybot fan; I really wish we were getting this over Trypticon.

>>5611320
Which is part of the RotF line. Sorry to upset you.

>>5611537
Would a Titan Predaking look alright battling our Voyager Sky Lynx?

>>5611545
I don't really care about Sky Lynx, honestly. My main attachment to Predaking is through the Dreamwave comics that where coming out when I was a teenager; mainly through that Lithograph, and the reissue toy.

>>5611545
It would look like Overlord stepping on Pipes.

>>5611417
Predaking would require 4 mew molds, mainbody animal, "large" animal(like Rook), regular(car bots) and bird type(Airialbots), and would need to be molded vague enough/retoolable to be used for other combiners. Let's say they do get the go-ahead, Predaking is made then it can be redecoed/retooled into a pseudo BW Magnaboss, with Rhinox and Cheetor(?) as added members.

Maybe Abominus, but Hun-Garr would need to be a new mold. along with maybe Blot.

>>5611552
That lithograph and nightmare planet made Predaking look like a total badass.

>>5611560
I would love for Hasbro to retool a hypothetical CW Predaking or Abominus into an actual animal-based CW Predacus.

>>5611564
>CW Predaking or Abominus
If they can get one mold going the other can easily be retooled into it

>>5611564
>Hasbro

>>5611560
>Predaking is made then it can be redecoed/retooled into a pseudo BW Magnaboss, with Rhinox and Cheetor(?) as added members.

Going with the G1 veterans theme, I'd do ramhorn for Headstrong and catilla for rampage. That said Ramhorn would add the confusing bit of both Tripredacus and Magnaboss having a "Ramhorn". If remolding is allowed I'd nix Ramhorn and make Tantrum a bear to work as Chainclaw.

>>5609936
>$40 shipped
>Canada
There's your problem.
$20, minimum, shipping means your budget is really $20...for a toy that, 11 years ago, sold for $15 plus tax.

>>5611570

Ramhorn and Tantrum are similar size, so go the Ferel Rex route and change animal heads/legs, that means BW Ironhide would be an elephant head/legs instead either bull or rhino. All of these are G1 styled robo-animals BTW, no mutant BW stuff here.

>>5610129
>I suspect when these are available for preorder and such they are much cheaper.
Most non-exclusives are cheap for a very long time. Toy collecting just has a lot of "lifelong" fans who were born yesterday, coincidentally after that long cheap prriod, and claim they can find anything (in new condition for half MSRP) that kind of skews the picture.

>>5611537
>>5611560
IF HasTak ever made a Generations Predaking it probably wouldn't be like CW since Predaking isn't Scramble City.

>>5611598
That would be the best case scenario, but CW would make more sense financially in getting more use out of a single mold.

>>5611598
so once omega scorponok tripticon and for max are out we get a titan predaking?

aww yiss

>>5611609
Yeah. He'll be metroplex with a new paint scheme and head with wings added on.

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>>5611623

>>5611607
HasTak isn't getting any more use out of Devastator outside a G2 repaint. The current lead designers seem fairly in tune with what fans want in concept. The execution leaves something to be desired however.

>>5611635
I blame the budget. The last design team had a fantastic budget but largely squandered it all on movie shit and overthinking the Classics style toys in Universe. Universe Galvatron is a good example; they made him a realistic tank because they wanted to follow the movie's emphasis on realistic alt-modes.

Fuck, my PCC Bombshock's arm socket cracked.

Any tips on how to repair hairline cracks? I smeared a little superglue inside the crack and I'm hoping for the best.

>>5611665
he was also meant to be bigger than what he was and have a cannon alt mode

>>5611424
>>5611429
They'd all need to have collapsable legs that can peg together and waist swivels too so they could have arm modes. Not to mention a fairly flat chest for clearance and a 5mm port on the bottom of the foot.

>>5611417
What mold did they give for Waspinator?

>>5611670
Fuck. Just so happens I've been worried about a PCC toy of mine too.

How did it crack? Arm joint too tight? And did you see stress marks before it happened?

>>5611692
There was a small chip on his chestplate, so I popped off the arm to scratch off the stress marks and stuff. Popping the joint off made the socket crack.

>>5611310
Apparently when they showed off the sillhouettes of the tank and jet mode, they showed the two colliding as if to say it'd be combining.
So we may likely get Double Powermaster Duocon.

>>5611670
Mine's been making this hideous creaking noise when i try to move the torso into place. I stopped messing with him for the sake of just keeping him intact.

>>5611724
If that's true, good for the three Flywheels fans out there.

>>5611736
Not Bombshock anon, but I've had more PCC's break than any other Transformers I own. So far I've had Huffer, Searchlight, Leadfoot, Skyhammer, that yellow excavator guy and someone I'm forgetting succumb to cracked pieces.

I hope Smolder at least doesn't suffer.

I love that little Decepticon fireman.

>>5611724
Remolding Flywheels into Overlord would be nice, but what class would they be?
Overlord should definately be Leader, but that feels a bit too big for Flywheels.

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So I got me one of those legends wreck gars, but it's left me wanting more.

Should I chase down a singular wreck gar generations or should I get the platinum set?

I don't have any of the molds featured, but I do have an mp hot rodimus, I'm also aware generations wreck gar carries a steep price

>>5611791
>steep price
Not really especially if you're considering buying the overpriced platinum set.

>>5611797
$120aud is the cheapest I can get the platinum set.

Cheapest of just wreck gar or the other retool is $60.

I don't get it

>>5611769
can someone take a pic of Smolder with his combiner head in robot mode?

>>5611801
Could've pointed that part out. When you aren't specific people will assume that you go by the prices they see.

>>5611810
I often forget prices can vary around the world, its just the fact...what am I gonna do with that hotrod in the set, he'd end up in the box.

I kinda wish takara made an mp of wreck gar, that'd solve everything

>>5611801
>>5611810
Especially when theyre asking a question about if something is worth it.

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>Be britbong
>Local TRU isn't on a new wave of any damn brand of any franchise for like 4 months now
>Drive an hour to get to a Smyths, nothing else worthwhile for a long ways around
>Walls full of lego, wrestling figures, all kinds of junk I've never heard of
>About a meter square of shelf space for transformers
>No fucking CW legends classes whatsoever, just oversized or oversimplified RID non-warrior garbage and CW voyagers I've already got
>Return home shockwaveless

It's been a rough day, TFg

>>5611832
Okay.

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>>5611832
>mfw I just bought a second one to make a reflector
>mfw I got it and a rare hotwheels for a combined total of LESS than a regular legends class

Australia is catching up to the yanks

>>5611837
I can't believe it, the day has come where I'm jealous of an aussie for a reason other than the fact yanks constantly attribute shared lingo/slang of our countries to yours alone

a-at least you have big spiders, hah, h-hah, yeah... aw man.

>>5611832
Almost every single store in my area had the exact same figures on the pegs for two months straight when I started looking for Legends Shockwave. It got depressing after a while to see the same handful of Grooves and Skywarps every single time I went out hunting.

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>>5611839
Yep, our spiders are bigger than yours.

...gonna suck when they eventually bring in import tax though

>>5611844
Man, importing things is such a pain even to england, i bought from BBTS ONCE and i regret it still, ended up paying a combined total of £50 at least on the shipping and customs costs, what a fucking ridiculous pain.
[spoiler]It was on the platinum edition bruticus and grimlock, as well as the X transbots' boosticus set. actually really solid,brutes+addon set displays like a champ but I'm considering selling the grimlock off to pick up either Vulcan from Planet X or just a plain-colour once off ebay[/spoiler]

>>5611850
Businesses here actually want that shit so we'd stop spending online.

Not my fault asshats overcharge on shit locally and when they import and sell locally they end up gouging on the price.

mp10, $400aud from tru, hlj after shipping, $260aud.

Dafuq were they thinking, and we still got people willing to spend so much

>>5611855
>Dafuq were they thinking, and we still got people willing to spend so much
You answered your question in the same sentence.

So I have the complete CW Superion with quickslinger that I'm wanting to sell, would it be better to sell them all together, or individually?

>>5611855
We're lucky enough to have Kapow Toys cutting out the middleman of importing and stocking the good stuff, but unfortunately they don't care for things like western-release RID, and the way they sell the CW legends waves is weird. Sometimes they're a pack of 4 and sometimes they're on their own, which wouldn't be an issue if shockwaves didn't come in a wave of two repaints I don't want.

>>5611858
Aye, tis true.

>>5611861
And we got premium collectables, same deal since rid isn't "collectable" so again I have to turn to hlj for those (well, the superior adventures versions).

Same deal for the cw legends as kapow, right now the wave 1 assortment for titans returns is up, this is mostly aimed at collectors I guess, lucky my stores nearby keep local supply flowing...mostly.

>>5611863
Everything local-store-wise has been slowing down more and more after 2015 ended, TRU coming to an instant stop, ASDA cutting back their selection and never restocking after having half the new RID wave in once, and Smyths clinging on with a tiny shelf area.

The only reason we ever got shit beyond 2012 in the first place [no exaggeration, until the event the shelves were still junk from the third movie and the FoC videogame] was when Smyths accidentally got a shipment of CW wave one before it even released in the US totally by accident when they were supposed to get the new movie stuff. Best shipping mistake ever, man.

>>5611751
Interesting. Out of the ones you listed the only one I own is Skyhammer and he actually seems to be in pretty good shape.

But I have an Undertow that was covered in the worst stress marks all over right out of package. And the thing is, none of those marks are on parts that actually move, so I'm inclined to believe I got fucked in an extreme case of manufacturing defects. Regardless I'm worried about how long he'll stay in one piece for me.

>>5611804
Don't have a pic, but I can tell you while the combiner head looks great and has really good light piping, it is far too large to serve as an alternative head for bot mode. Unless you want some cartoonish proportions like Rook with combiner hands.

>>5611598
I thought he was scramble city as a toy and it was just that everybody used the default combination

>>5611860
Silverbolt has gotten a fair amount of circulation compared to the limbs, and Slingshot would definitely net you a pretty penny solo, so i'd say try to sell them as a set first, and if no one takes the shot for a full set, then divide it up.

>>5611870
Our tru's (well those near me) have fuck all, nearest to me went from a whole rack (full of cheap/old tf stuff) to just a very tiny squeeze.

We missed out on waves of cw but we're getting stuff like legends before americans do

>>5611875
Nope. They could change positions a bit within a self contained Predaking build, but the Predacons were just naturally too large to work with other combiners.

>>5611273
The CW Seekers have a pretty heavy plane backpack, but they're retools of Jetfire, who had it because they wanted a Macross vehicle mode and a Skyfire robot mode and one has a hard time fitting the other.

>>5611880
Talking of, I found a fairly cheap Platinum Predaking. I certainly want him, but I've heard some horror stories of him breaking.

To whoever makes the new thread, be sure to actually tell us thus time, eh?

>>5611736
Mine does that too.

>>5611751
I'm pretty upset that the whole line seems to suffer from shit quality plastic. I really like the looks of smolder, sledge, and undertow but I don't think I should get them if they'll break on me...

>>5611751
>>5611920
This is interesting to me as I have almost the whole line and have never had a break. I even carry undertow around in my glove box for fiddling with.

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So I found that new revision wave (sky reign and combaticon wave mix) at Wal-Mart today.

Just picked up Swindle and Brawl for now cuz I'm a poorfag and I wanna make sure I'll have money to spend when Deluxe Groove is released online. Haven't opened Swindle yet, but I'm really liking Brawl.

Lack of actual stomach/abdomen aside, he's pretty cool. Fun transformation, decently articulated, and the whole waist assembly seems to tab in on mine fine. It holds, anyway.

>>5611922
Well, I hope he at least holds up. I love me some boatformers.

>>5611925
Me too, and we get so few good ones. Undertow and Seaspray are some of favorite figures.

Hah, im at work and we have this tshirt that comes with a dinosaur toy, and guess who the toy is, a blue knockoff BW Dinobot

Tempted to buy it just for fun

>>5611936
I've saw those. They had them in multiple colors back at my local JCpenney. I was tempted to get them, but I never liked that mold.

>>5611936
Pics? I'm just curious as to what it even looks like. Like the bold bw dinobot?

>>5611936
>>5611945
Also requesting a pic. Curious to see it.

>>5611936
Where at? I need me a cheap dinobot yo

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Sears btw

anyone know when the platinum heroes set comes out? seems like it will be a wave mate with liokaiser.

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>>5611963
He also comes in green

>>5611963
Shit. I better go to Sears.

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Any idea who this poor soul is? He also comes in green

>>5611963
>>5611965
Wonder what the robot mode looks like.
Also I take it children's xxxxl wouldn't fit an adult?

>>5611972
Maybe if ur going for a belly shirt

>>5611963
>>5611965
I wish the cheap shops where I live did these kind of knock offs of older molds...

>>5611923
I can't wait to see how Killbison and Drillhorn will look using Brawl's mold.
I don't mind them using it twice in the set at all.

WFC/FOC for £10 or Devastation for £15?
It's more of a question for /v/ but >Going to /v/

>>5612027
Devastation if you want a fun beat em up. Wfc/foc if you like gears of war.

Should I wait for Warrior Quillfire or fuck it import the Adventure version for an extra $4-5, I got a big order in april so shipping shouldn't be an issue.

>>5611963
>>5611965
>>5611970

what country.

Canadian Sears doesn't have toys anymore.

>>5612044
At that difference just go by the color you prefer.

>>5612045
There's a difference between having toys and having shirts that include a toy as an incentive.

>>5612006
I don't mind Killbison from Brawl, but I'd rather see Drillhorn from Takara Nosecone (muh giant drill). I'll cross my fingers for UW Liokaiser to be a thing I guess. I don't really like all the black on the Hasbro one's torso bot.

>>5612034
Cool thanks m8

Is it just me, or is basically every part from CW Swindle brand new except for the crotch and thighs?

>>5612061
>is it just me
Jesus Christ. I swear some people.

Yes. It's just you that's noticed there obvious changes in the retools.

>>5612061
And the wheels!

New thread:
>>5612139

>>5611319

I just saw this. Thankfully, mine is correct. Whew. I'd hate to have to send it back to BBTS.