Monster High General: Waiting for Summer edition

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Out of nowhere, a new two-pack with Nefera and Amanita.

http://amzn.com/B01CV08W8I

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Also a new cafe playset with Cleo.

http://amzn.com/B01CV08W5G

>>5575057
That piece of cake is staring at Nefera's chest.

>>5575074
>no elbows
>softer makeup
Ew. G1 forever!

>>5575074
… Wow, that is one cheap-looking set, Mattel. Not a single, new, original piece.

>>5575087
You're acting like this a new thing. Mattel recycle playsets all the time.

>>5575057
I'm happy we're still getting some of these classic-style MH dolls as Generation 2 gradually comes in.

>>5574461
Someone lend a hand?

>>5575057
Love the color scheme in Cleo's hair - it hopefully will look that way in person.

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>>5575217

>>5575218
>cleo
that's nefera

>>5575057
Wow, I'm surprised we're getting another Amanita doll

>>5575074
wait, their arms are seriously unarticulated now?

>>5575263
I assume it's just the basic, low price dolls and dolls included in playsets who are unarticulated. We're still getting plenty of articulated dolls.

>>5575266
oh good, i was gonna say that's low even for mattel

>>5575074
That face looks so bad. Fierce Cleo is gone now I guess.

>>5575261
>>5575057
Amanita is new to me, just goggled her and now I need her original doll. Nice, wondering how I missed her.

>>5575217
Nail polish remover doesn't always work too well for paint removal, try using pure acetone. If it still is stained, you can use an acne cream to get it out.

>>5575313
Won't pure acetone fuck up the plastic?

>>5575475
Are you aware that standard nail polish remover = acetone in the first place?

>>5575496
It has acetone IN it, but it is not pure acetone. Pure acetone can melt the entire doll's face if you're not watching it.

>>5575509
Acetone is still a strong solvent even with additives. Anyway, my point is that >>5574461 sounds like the plastic has already been melted from applying too much nail polish remover.

>>5575217
>>5574461
Got any photos of what her lips look like now? In general, a bit of the colour smears during removal. Usually a clean cotton swab and a bit more acetone does the trick, but if you've already gone that route, further acetone application could cause the vinyl to shrink/melt as mentioned >>5575509

Whatever you do, make sure you rinse the doll's face really well after the fact, and give her a wash with some liquid hand or dish soap. Acetone may not "smell" still, but can still be active enough to cause little holes in the vinyl if you don't wash it off when you're done.

>>5575057
What the shit? Mind you, this is a 2-Pack I wanted before, when Cleo's hatred/Nefera's obsession for Amanita became clear in the diaries, but why now?

>>5575057
Well they had to do something with all those unsold dolls..

>>5576596
this makes me wonder if only certain characters are getting the facial reboot and not all of them. especially because at toy fair, at least for shriekwrecked, rochelle and catrine didn't look that different.

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>>5575313
>>5575509
>>5576042

I really fucked up

>>5575074
>unarticulated arms
>cutesy wootsy face

garbage

>>5575074
She looks like a burn victim with all that molded crap on her skin.

>>5577053
Is that a basic Duchess?
You really did. ;_;

>>5575074
Damn, they couldn't even change up the colors on the furniture. Bad form, Mattel.

>>5577222
Firstly nice double dubs and trips. Secondly I may have to just buy a new one. I know a shop that sells them thank god.

>>5577053
>>5577670
Well, extra acetone can't do much more damage from here. Try another round of using a cotton swab or maybe a cotton ball, and make sure to rinse her really fucking well after.

>>5577540
has nefera's face always been that glittery?

>>5577873
First doll, no. My guess is that they reused her NYNY release for this prototype, and that the final doll won't be sparkly.

Personally, I'm cracking up at the deformed leg in that photo (I assume they somehow stuck a stand into her leg?)

>>5577889
>NYNY
Sorry. Boo* York.

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Finally got this ghoul home. So excited she's here but am now faced with unboxing and enjoying her properly on display on leaving her mint for bragging rights and value.

Whut do /toy?

Went to buy my first doll a few days ago at the local toy store, turns out they only had two? And one of them were sold out?
Guess they're not really popular here
Where is the best place to get them online? I've been looking some on ebay and such but I don't want to get a wonky replica
What doll it is doesn't really matter, I pretty much like all of them, and I'm planning to maybe customize it as well. Preferably something on the cheaper side

>>5578818
Amazon has good prices on dolls, the only problem is that you can't see what you're getting so you won't know if it'll end up with flaws.

>>5578818
depends on which one you're looking for. in terms of EAH, you can almost always get original release (the gorgeous book style packaging) on amazon for fairly cheap. my first doll was apple and i got her for around $14. MH might be a bit trickier because the older the release, the harder they are to find. both have certain dolls that spike up in price because of rarity (original release Robecca, LD Cerise, etc) but for the most part, amazon is the better option price wise i've noticed. if you have time to browse around on the TRU site, they tend to run sales on MH and EAH.

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image of lady gaga's MH doll, i guess it got posted on instagram

>>5579421
How bland. Maybe it will look better in other pics.

>>5579421
Looks like someone's shitty custom.

>>5577670
Or rather cut your losses and give up now. Removing the factory face is the easiest part and you couldn't even do that right.

>>5579421
its not the official doll, its someone's custom.

>>5575475
I know this is from two days ago, but best method I've found when using acetone is to dip a q-tip in it, tap off on a paper towel so its not dripping, and then dab it onto the paint you want to use. When I say dab, don't wipe or scrub with it, like put it down on there and lift it up. If you wipe it will smudge. If you dab it will lift the paint up with it. If it starts to smudge, use a new clean qtip dipped the same way to clean it up. Once its clean, wash with dish soap. The limited exposure will prevent melting. This only works with soft vinyl by the way. Don't do this on the hard plastic that their bodies are made with, it will melt on contact.

>>5580201
Also, sometimes, under the super vivid reds and darker reds/purples there may be staining, and there's not much you can do about that.

>>5580205
For staining you can you spot cream.I've done it before to great effect. Dab on a bit of spot cream with peroxide in it and leave it in the sun. Not too long though because you'll bleach the colour out of the plastic too.

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Mattel put up the teaser for Welcome to Monster High.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fCrSQBk9_o

>>5582337
The comments are so over dramatic

>>5582352
Welcome to RUINED FOREVER.

>>5583651
Raven got dem bedroom eyes

>>5583651
Shame the art always has better expression than the dolls.

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somebody knows if there is a version of this without those photoshopped bags ?

>>5577540
I hate that Nefera has articulated arms and Amanita doesn't.

>>5584287
Watchoo talkin about Willis? Amanita does.

>>5584287

Amanita really clearly has articulated arms

>>5575217

Try pure acetone.
It's in the same aisle just called pure acetone it's what they use to get acrylics off and what they use to cook meth
Most nail polish removers have like a nail strength shit or something

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>>5584287
Ok

http://pastebin.com/hVQ0YH9i

I thought some of you might like my story

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There is a live action Monster High musical taking place across Germany this month.

http://www.monsterhigh-live.de/

>>5588201
That derp as fuck OC is killing me.

>>5588201
For real what was the point of Briar's weird hair knot thing?

>>5578310
Who is this? First time seeing

>>5588768
Limited Edition Draculaura

>>5588768
Draculaura's Collector Doll. Seems to be $40 on Amazon. Note that it has rooted eyelashes, if that's not your thing.

>>5578310
I kept mine boxed because it's a cute coffin.

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Some promo pics of the new dolls have been leaked.

Draculaura and Moanica in box.

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Dance the Fright Away Draculaura.

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Dance the Fright Away Cleo and Clawdeen.

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Signature Draculaura, Frankie and Ari.

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Transforming Draculaura.

I'm glad this one has articulated arms.

>>5588971
So conflicted, i enjoy the new body work on Clawdeen and Cleo - but aint here for Cleo's wider eyes.

>>5588977
Swear this looks like a budget doll with a gimmick. I get what they are going for, but i wish it wasnt as child like in terms of the outfit and wings. They didnt need to go down that hard on the designs.

>>5588964
i'm in love with moanica, it's official

>>5588758
it's supposed to be a rose, anon

>>5588964
Moanica is cute. CUTE.

>>5588972
those dressess like like shite compared to the originals holy fuck would not collect/10

>>5588972
Those are some ugly ass basic dresses.

>>5588972
god why is ari such a boring character

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>>5588977

At first glance, it looks like Mattel is using the same wing popping gimmick as seen on the DK 12" Action Cape Batman they released back in 2008. But I doubt that Lala's body is big enough for the wings to "roll up" inside of her. I'd imagine that the wings when folded down make up some sort of long skirt. Activation is done by the flip switch on her torso.

>>5590495
Yeah, that's how it's been described, the wings tun into a long skirt. I'm sure Mattel have done similar things with Barbie and fairy wings.

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Also, the High School playset is being re-released with new colours.

>>5590501
I'm surprised they kept the coffin windows, that is still a little macabre for a kids toy.

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>>5590515
Oh, those poor children. My heart bleeds.

>>5590948
Why give the dolls crappy new 'child friendly' designs if the play set keeps the creepiness of the old style? Should have just left it as it was if that is the case.

>>5588972
I always thought some of the dolls had unnecessary bitch-face, namely Ghoulia, but these faces look like toddler dolls. I think Mattel's going to learn that dumbing down the edginess that made the brand popular in the first place is going to shorten the age range where girls will want to buy new dolls.

>>5578310
I bought it too.
She's very nice. Especially the umbrella.

>>5588972
damn, I concur that the new dresses are hideous...

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the new signatures have accessories, in case anyone was worried

>>5592256
Why does she have semen on her face?

>>5592275
I feel like I'm missing a joke here or something

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>>5592362
She has glue smeered on her face

>>5592456
that's part of her make up

>>5592474
It looks awful. Why does it need the gloss?

>>5592481
i think it's just supposed to look shiny, i didn't really notice it on her other pictures

>>5592275
hotglued to death

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Thought I'd share the hyena custom I'm currently working on. I need to do touch ups, and add some details here and there, but overall her face is done! I'll be adding in tribal face paint and finishing her off with a mohawk with flocking.

>>5593128
>hyena

Will it include a humongous she-cock?

>>5582337
The animation, texturing and modelling is a little better than before, might actually be alright, just wish they kept their original outfits and styles, would've looked great in this.

Doll-wise though the reboot is garbage, I always considered the package art one of the strongest aspects, now it just looks cheap.

>>5593378
why not a cute bulge?

>>5593128
You'll have to remodel the ears too as hyena ears are rounder.

>>5588972
is that a human girl in the red shoes?

>>5594436
Ghost.

>>5593378
Sorry to disappoint, no cock or bulges on my girl.

>>5594036
And I did plan on rounding out her ears. I'm still debating on whether or not to give her a little tail.

>>5588310
That;s Blondie, before her redesign. For, you know, obvious reasons.

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found a misprint darling today

I think it's in May when Mattel reveals their SDCC exclusives right?

Nothing's been revealed yet but people still complain about their prices. Honestly you know this happens every year. You should be saving at least $110 by July. The more popular the exclusive, e.g, Cerise Wolf vs Queen Raven's popularity, the quicker you should get them after the con is over.

>>5596355
someone mentioned that they hope that Ramona is the SDCC exclusive but fuck I hope she isn't. i love collecting the signatures but I'd rather not shell out that much for her.

>>5596102
Could just be a box swap

I was in my local Tuesday Morning today and decided to pick one of these dolls up for repainting purposes (have long been a dollfag, just not really into MH dolls). I ended up getting the Haunted Draculara for $7 and man, I wasn't expecting it to be so nice. It's a playscale doll, but the body poses so well and it feels really sturdy, too. I was expecting kinda meh hair like Barbie has, but the hair is actually surprisingly soft. I don't even know if I want to repaint the doll at this point either since the default face looks pretty great, too. Now I understand why people end up with 30+ of these dolls. They're pretty great.

>>5597245
While swapping is a shitty thing, accidents can happen. You were born, after all.

>>5597752
>You were born, after all.
Goddamn powerbomb out of nowhere

>>5597269
It's how I ended up with 27 at least....

>>5597922
Same here, I bought two to repaint, and now have around 20 or so.

So, I've been out of the hobby awhile and was wondering if anyone could recommend some repaint artists? My friend gave me three dolls that she got halfway through customizing before giving up on them, and I'd like to finish them up. I know NoNapTime closed or I would just go with her.

I'm not worried about reroots, since I have an asston of BJD wigs I can use.

Thanks in advance!

>epic winter dolls don't come with stands
it's the beginning of the end

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>>5600812
DAMN you Mattel

>>5600812
>>5601200
Saw that coming as soon as people started reporting Dragon Games dolls sans stands.

hey not really into MH but i got one as a gift a while ago, it's been opened and everything. anyone know a good place to sell it?

>>5603379
could do ebay, but depending on what line/doll it is depends on the money you get.

>>5603379
Monster High dolls are not worth anything unless you have a mint and sealed in the box original release wave 1 doll from 2010.

So eBay is your best bet.

>>5603542
>>5603623
it's a Scaris Catrine DeMew if that helps lol. it doesn't look like it's worth much so i might just give it to goodwill or something. thanks though!

>>5603782
She can still be found on store shelves in some places so yeah, not really worth more than $15.

>>5603623
There's a handful outside the wave 1 that are worth money. MIB Bloom and Gloom Jinafire gets $40-80 in auctions.

>>5603623
Nah, certain ones will go. A couple threads ago, there were anons talking about how they were looking for an original Robecca but she's hard to find for a low price. Also, EAH Legacy Day Cerise was and still kind of is one of the hardest ones to find.

>>5579421
If the real Lady Gaga doll isn't some abomination that would fit in one of music videos. I would be disappointed.

>>5604133
Speaking of which I managed to get Legacy Day Ashlynn for 24 bucks on Amazon because the box was shitty. Which I don't care because she's already ridiculously expensive and I take my dolls out of their boxes.

>never even heard of let alone seen Amanita before these threads. Give it up to never getting her.
> walks into toy store today and there's freaking 2 on clearance.

Feels good to be getting close to grabbing all the gals i wanted. I just need original ghoulia now, the pink haired gorgon chick, skelita ( where the hell did mine go? ) and clawdeen's older sister. I was going to get the other vamp chick but she and draculaura look so similar it seems pointless.

Also freak de chic clawdeen and Twyla for $30 together, worth?

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Cover for the final MH Diaries book.

The plot involves Cleo's mother being revealed as still alive after being sealed in a tomb.

Monster High Live promo https://youtu.be/HUqz8pYGc90

Some of them look like they belong to monster nursing home, am I right?!?!?

>>5608467
this is really unsettling for some reason

>>5608458
Damn, that's dark.

>>5608458
Sometimes I realize how fucked up Monster High can be for a tweeny franchise.

>>5608720
Not anymore. Gumdrops and rainbows from here on out.

>>5608458
>still alive
So, huh, alive as in biologically speaking? I mean, beating heart, breathing, have to sleep and shit? Does that means she literally fucked a corpse and gave birth to a mummy?

Or alive in MH sense, as in she's a mummy and was sleeping or something?

>>5608148
Worth it, yes. They were both exclusives at Target, so they'll likely be harder to find later on compared to the others.

>>5608791
I would guess that the same trick used to trap Cleo, Nefera and their father was used on the mother as well.

"Here, put on these wrappings for safety... BY THE WAY. You're now an undead mummy and can't die unless you take those wrappings off. BWAHAHAHAHA."

If memory serves, Cleo's Gloom and Bloom diary didn't say that their mother died specifically, just that they got separated from her and thought she might be.

>>5608837
> just that they got separated from her and thought she might be.

How can anyone die in the Monster High universe when there are actual ghosts, zombies, reanimated corpses and shit happily strutting around?

Cleo is a dead teeager who got mummified otherwise she wouldn't be a mummy but rather a girl dressed as one and therefore not a monster.

>>5608863
The MH universe makes little sense. Ghosts and Zombies have parents instead of being raised from the dead, but Cleo was mummified, Frankie was assembled, and Draculaura was turned.

There's not much consistency, really.

I haven't seen the Haunted movie, but the diaries all seem to imply that Ghosts live in a different realm entirely from the rest of the Monsters, and that Spectra and Sirena were some kind of weird exceptions.

Again: consistency, not their strong point, and why I really only pay any attention to the dolls, and not the media relating to them.

>>5608895
spectra used to be in the ghost realm but her parents got her out of there, sirena is the daughter of a ghost and a mermaid which makes even less sense but she's cute

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>>5588201
Who the fuck is the chick by Duchess?

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>>5593128
>thinking tribal face paint is cool
>any year

>>5609275
Someone's shitty OC

>>5582337
The style and animation quality have gone WAY up, I'm really happy.

>>5609515
i think that's the only thing that i'm excited for aside from moanica for G2. their animation quality for their movies is low budget tier CGI so i'm glad they finally bumped it up

>>5609081
>but she's cute
Pretty much all I care about.

>>5608895
>Draculaura was turned ???
i need an explanation

>>5611271
She was dying of a plague when she was a teen, her father turned her into a vampire to save her.

http://monsterhigh.wikia.com/wiki/Draculaura's_Collector's_Edition_diary

>>5609275
Just some random OC, I think.

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>>5609081

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>>5609277
Good thing it's not your custom then.

I like what I'm doing with it, and that's all I really care about. I just thought it'd be cool to share, since other folk do too.

>>5612238
Lot better than I could ever do, anon.

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>>5612238
Looking good so far! Not a huge fan of the fully outlined eye socket, but I assume that's mostly because of how hyenas look than anything else?

>>5611435
>diaries have this level of thought put into them
>the animation only seems to focus on "fashion & boys" typical girl cartoon crap

why can't the toon be as mature and as focused as these diary snippets? The diary feels like lore-building is actually being carefully planned and almost none of it shows up in the animation. Even the social commentary from the early webisodes and specials like Fright On have vanished, to make it as generic, non-threatening and bland as possible.

>>5612238
Unless you suddenly lose your mind and start smearing shit all over the face, that looks better than 90% of the customs I've seen itt.

well just spent about an hour putting Amarnita's hair into finger waves. Hopefully in 3 days after it dries it won't look like total shite. She literally has the worst hair of all the MH dolls I own.

some leaked pics of the new fashion packs turned up. reused accessories, reused fabrics and even reused dress patterns.

>>5615499

Pics or it didn't happen.

>>5612369

Just went on a MH movie binge recently, and it seems to be like they're just waiting to use the feature length specials to flesh out the main characters. Fusion covered Frankie, Haunted was Spectra, Reef covered Lagoona, Booyork kinda covered Cleo.

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Hey guys, /vr/ trooper here, I'm new in /toy/.

I recently got into MH, something about the designs and the fact it's classic monsters for a theme really got my attention.

I got Picture Day Draculaura last month, and just ordered the Scaris Catrine DeMew.

I seen the upcoming redesigns and... Is it me or they're just basically making dolls of the flash-made anime version of Monster High? They seem really similar, with the round eyes and tinier lips...

[spoiler]Have you ever made your own clothes for your dolls?[/spoiler]

the latest dolls are kinda ugly.

>>5612238
Your custom looks a lot better than most customs I've seen. It's obvious you have a clear idea of what you want to do unlike most people.

>>5612369
I wouldn't say the later movies are completely bland and non-threatening. How many other movies based on girl's toys have things like teachers literally enslaving their students, giant squids trying to murder them, and the main character actually temporarily dying to save her friends?

>>5615984
Not who I'm replying too, but I haven't seen the Flash episodes.

I've only seen the halloween movie and the 6 subtitled episodes of the Japanese version.

Are the Flash-made web episodes available elsewhere? Seems like YouTube has them either incomplete or blocked in my country.

>>5615989
I mean, not who you're replying to.

Ugh, I need to catch some sleep.

>>5615989
You can find them all on Youtube, or Monster High's official website. Here's a list of all of them:

http://monsterhigh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_High_(cartoon)

Why do people constantly whine that Barbie is anorexic and promotes unrealistic body image when Monster High dolls have waists that are half the size of Barbie's yet I have yet to see anyone complain about that, MH makes Barbie look fat in comparison. Just an odd observation.

>>5616016
Maybe because MH focuses on a fantasy world where monsters are real while Barbie is usually thought as a more "realistic" franchise (despite the princess and super heroine movies).

That's what I think anyway.

>>5616016
People bitch about it all the time. Maybe you're just lucky and stay away from annoying cunts.

>>5587058
Oh wow, seems nice.

>>5615835
they're trying to make them more appealing to younger girls so cuter, i guess. MH/EAH dolls have a lot of shops where people sell clothes they make or the patterns for their clothes. very popular if you're not into their outfit for whatever line they're from.

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>>5615668
They're floating around, but here you go.

I honestly thought it was someone's loose lot sale until I read "fashion packs".

>>5615835
Not every doll is getting the reboot, so if you like Catrine, you're safe. Ish. Only the "core" ghouls are getting the new faces and body detailing (Draculaura, Frankie, Lagoona, Cleo, and Clawdeen so far). Other dolls are still coming out in the old style, it looks like.

The biggest drawback is that accessories are being cut everywhere, and the overall quality is continuing to drop (it was already on the decline before the reboot announcement).

>>5616016
But people do complain about that? An the fact that the dolls are apparently "Satanic" and worship devils. There are some hilarious blog posts out there from angry mums trying to protect their little darlings from the evil plastic.

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>>5616600

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>>5616601

>>5616049
This is my only source for MH news and discussion so I guess I must thank you all for not being annoying.

>>5616600
>Not every doll is getting the reboot, so if you like Catrine, you're safe. Ish.

ah, good, Catrine's design is good as-is IMO.

I don't really mind the redesigns much, but I believe the classic designs had a bit more of a "personality".

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>>5616600
>But people do complain about that? An the fact that the dolls are apparently "Satanic" and worship devils. There are some hilarious blog posts out there from angry mums trying to protect their little darlings from the evil plastic.

People still do this? God damn. I still remembe parents here in my third world shithole saying the Smurfs, Pokémon and Dragon Ball were all satanic and bullshit proof of how Pikachu meant better than god.

>>5616646
As long as there are bored, fundy housewives, there will be angry, anti-Satanic toy boycotting campaigns.

My sister-in-law didn't want me buying them for her daughter because they're creepy and she genuinely thinks they'll invite evil spirits into the house. Her husband laughed and told her that the true evil spirit is commercialism, and that the house is already doomed.

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>>5616653
>Her husband laughed and told her that the true evil spirit is commercialism, and that the house is already doomed.

I want to invite that guy a beer. I'll keep that phrase in mind next time my cousin bitches about these things as well.

>>5604133
my little cousin has cerise, her hair is a mess but she has all of her add ons besides the purse and stand.
it's a really pretty doll.

>>5604125
I have bloom and doom jinafire and Cleo, a couple of my favorite dolls. I'm surprised any MH doll besides the comic con ones are worth anything.

>>5616655
He can be a bit of a tool sometimes, but it was pretty funny. He did back her on not buying the dolls for their daughter, though. Not because he thinks they'll invite evil spirits, but because they're too mature for her.

SIL is a sweetie and we hang out a lot, but she's kind of weird too. She goes on spiritualist retreats and stuff on the weekends, and reads a lot of home-made-medium kind of books. She also did some past-life regression thing? And has a spiritual "mentor" that she pays to help her keep her home clean of bad mojo.

I dunno, it keeps her happy and doesn't put them in debt, but sometimes it's a bit weird.

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>>5616667
Eh, if it makes her happy and doesnt put her in debt it's fine.

Especially the latter, I had a HORRIBLE time finding Catrine at a decent price (most prices were circa 120 USD in my country).

Speaking of which, it should be here tomorrow! I'm excited.

>>5616845
Catrine's a cutie! I am a real sucker for the werecats. Her GnB release is probably my favourite in terms of overall looks, but her Scaris release has such great hair.

I also had trouble finding her for a nice price, but managed to snag one with a scratched up leg for about $20 after shipping. Gave her a little bit of TLC, and she looks brand new.

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>>5616849
Woah, I nabbed it for the same price brand new... at least the seller says it's brand new.

However there's also the extra price of shipping... Ah well, I regret nothing.

I am a sucker for cute characters in general, it also works than in most fiction when there's an adorable french girl I'm an instant sucker for it.

I'm actually downloading Scaris: City of Frights in French, I'll watch it tonight.

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>>5616600
>>5616601
>>5616602

Wow. At first glance, these dresses look like examples from the "For Dummies" doll dress patterns. They're so fucking simple and bland.

>>5616660
there's always the original release sweet 1600 cupid

>>5616913
I really hope the designs are not final...

>>5616885
The joys of living somewhere not-America.

Shipping was a good $12 from the US, so the doll itself was just $8 due to the damage. It doesn't hurt that domestic sellers weren't budging below $40 with missing accessories.

>>5617009
Why is Scaris Catrine so expensive anyway? O went through pages of incredibly expensive sellers until I found the one I ordered.

I paid the same amount for shipping. It's next-day delivery though so it's all good.

>>5617031
I think she was a store exclusive? I'm not 100% sure, but I think she was only available at Walmart (and the associated stores abroad). So fewer of her were made/sold as compared to the rest of the line.

>>5617200
How odd, considering they were introducing her with the tie-in movie.

>>5616934
is she worth much nowadays?

>>5617031

Multiple Catrine dolls are still sitting on the shelves of my local Walmart.

And looking on Ebay, you can find her for $10~$20 depending if you want her boxed or unboxed.

So no, not rare or expensive. You just got wallet raped for not living in Freedom Land.

>>5617646
I wanna think $22 bucks (plus shipping) wasn't that bad.

But I had better luck with Picture Day Draculaura, she was just $8.

>>5617447
the last time i looked her up, she was going for $80~ in box. considering that was her only MH release, i'd say she's a pretty good sell.

I got my Scaris Catrine DeMew today.

It's... It's new yes, but doesn't come with the box, it was opened to fit a smaller box. All accesories are there though and the doll doesn't seem to contain any sort of harm.

>>5618666
Was she advertised as 'in box'? If that was the case then you are entitled for a refund due to being mislead.

>>5618692
No, it was merely advertised as "New."

And it is technically new. It even has that "new doll" scent, so it was opened yesterday when it shipped.

The accesories are still on their sealed bags and all as well.

Eh, doesn't matter, I'm just glad she's here in mint condition.

>>5618976
As long as you are happy.

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Found these at Walmart shoved behind a bunch of Way too Wonderland dolls. $15 a piece for Fairest on Ice, $7 for Skelita. Feeling really good today.

>>5619015
Well, I wasn't gonna keep her boxed anyway, I'm gonna try take photos of her when there's daylight.

It's a very nice doll, she's so adorable, her hair style is cool and I love the sunglasses she wears over her head, as well the scarf around her neck.

>>5619037
Nice finds.

>>5619037
Nice find dude. You managed to avoid the ass-rape prices on ebay and amazon for those FOI dolls.

>>5612249
>>5612753
>>5615855
Thanks guys, you're all ace! It's always a needed boost. That's why I always try to have something positive or constructive to say when others post.

>>5612340
I wanted to keep it close but still a bit stylized

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has your collections coming along? finally finding MH threads on /toy/ makes me soo happy, i loves these dolls but i have no to really talk about it with,

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>>5621647

>>5621647
>>5621649
that's an impressive collection

>>5621647
I only have 2 dolls.

[spoiler]I don't have my own place yet, so I don't want my family know I have these, I have them hidden.[/spoiler]

That's an impressive collection, m80. I personally haven't gotten into EAH, but I'm still impressed by people like you who collect and take care of them.

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>>5621893
i find that interesting to hear, i started with EAH because of the more complex costumes, and thought MH were childish in comparision, it wasnt until i looked online and the diversity that MH had that i took the plunge. i do have more roughly 30 not pictured.

i would also just say own man, people have heard about my collection from others and they usually say "really dolls and girls toys?"
>yeah i think the fairy tale designs are cute af, and the costumes are quite complex and well detailed (probabley sounds autistic)

"oh ok" they either lose interest, or get curious and ask questions, which is nice cause then you gush about your autism without revealing your power level by inserting it into every conversation like brony's love to do,

>>5621751
thanks anon,

also does anyone know about the clawdeen red riding hood i have pictured here? i picked it up when i got my special edition draculuara, but i cant seem to find if they did other fairy tail crossovers.

>>5621930
fuck me and typos, but if its not obvious if you just take precautions to not allow people to bully you over what you like, then most wont press on.

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>>5621930
There were two others, Draculaura as Snow White, and Frankie as Cinderella. (Though Clawdeen is arguably the best)

They rereleased them back around Halloween at TRU, so you might still be able to find them at decent prices.

>>5621930
>and thought MH were childish in comparision

When I saw EAH first-announced I thought immediatly they were on the same level. It was a "Oh boy, here we go again" kind of feeling, and I don't mean it in a bad way at all. I guess because I had a semi-decent comprehension of MH despite not owning dolls back then I quickly associated both on the same level.

But I know what you mean.

Personally, MH appeals to me (more than EAH) because I'm really into classic Universal Monsters, and the classic novels they're based upon (unless they're created-for-movie like Lagoona/Creature of the Black Lagoon).

Heck, sometimes I wonder, if I ever have a daughter I'll introduce her to MH just as a gateway to introduce her to classic Universal.

On a sidenote, as EAH costumes compatible with MH dolls?

>>5622067
Yeah. EAH bodies are a bit thicker and a little different in the bust but they both fit each other.

>>5622258
Neat, that's good to know.

>Draculaura with elegant EAH dresses

Yes.

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>>5622258
It depends on the outfit in question, but I find EAH dresses fit best if you can find a way to "cinch" them. The shoulders and waist are the biggest issues I've had with those dresses on regular MH bodies, so putting a belt or similar tends to help. The tights are also generally a bit loose, as EAH legs are thicker through the knee and calf than MH, but similar in the thigh.

Pic related, Venus in Briar's sig stock. Wydowna's belt thingy used to snug up the waist.

I have only tried a couple of things on Big Sister bodies, and they generally are a "better" fit, but the bust is sometimes problematic.

>>5621930
they did snow bite (draculaura) and a cinderella frankie. not sure if you'll find the original release ones but the did rerelease them in november i believe. i know what you mean by EAH, i love their outfits to pieces. what mattel is doing with them with epic winter is killing me softly.

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>>5622258
>>5622303
as anon said, the only notable size difference is the rounder and slightly bigger heads compared MH, but they do stand at the same height so the dress/ costume will be to correct scale

>>5621995
that frankie looks pretty great as well, too bad laura looks so cheap, perhaps its just the photo though

being in canada I have to go between walmart/ toys r us, while both usually have good current stock, i notice people in the states have better luck on more obscure finds.

also does anyone follow the media? MH i havn't given a chance yet, but i find EAH short webisodes to be kinda cute and fun. Another thing, is there a more mature MH/EAH following? ive found a few but i dont really feel like talking with children, that are like 6-12 lol.

>>5622448
You'd think so, but after that whole chimpout the internet had after Apple and Darling kissed I'm doubting the ages of a lot of them...

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>>5622439
ive been able to find a few online, just looking, did they just do a straight re-release or did they get hit by the mattel budget,

normally not a big fan of the budget dolls, but i really liked the "book party", found them to be pretty cute, especailly getting another lizzie hearts, kitty cheshire, and Ginger. I am quite enjoying the new flood of characters though, like rosabella, darling, and courtly jester, kinda iffy on the new dragon game redesigns though

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>>5622507
i think out of the new signatures, jillian is my favorite. i think she has the best face mold.

>>5622519
>>5622519
I still think most of the EAH dolls have too much of the Bratz oversided head thing. The MH more angled narrower head have always been more to my liking.

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>>5622519
i havnt seen her yet, but that is a great design, seems like they release a lot at once, i have over 80 Mh/EAH dolls and sets but it seems im always behind lol

>>5622507
They got hit by some budget changes. They still come with their stands and diaries and what not, though.

I have both releases of the Clawdeen/Little Dead Riding Hood, and there's definitely noticeable differences in the fabrics used. For example, the original is a short velveteenish fabric, while the new one is a stiff satin. The dress fabric is also a bit stiffer than the original.

I don't have re-release Frankie, or either of the Draculauras, but I do have the original Frankie and she's adorable. I saw from reviews that she didn't change much, but that Draculaura/Snow Bite's fabrics were on the thinner side compared to the original, and that the top layer is somewhat see-through.

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>>5622507
I got Book Party Lizzie and Kitty for the theme. Love how cute it is.

I just wish that Kitty's shoes were the ones from the prototype (black cat shoes). Does anyone know what release they're from? Or if they were just modified into the current version with the book pieces added on?

>pic related, the prototype shoes

>>5622562
I have something like 150 now and I'm still hunting down releases, both new and old. It feels a bit Sisyphean at times and I'm currently on a no-buying-for-a-month break, to focus on other stuff.

Before the break, I was thinking of keeping stock, but selling dolls and going back to my original one-doll-per-character rule. I haven't made up my mind yet, but I really was considering getting nice photos of all the dolls, and selling the ones I didn't want any longer.

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>>5622563
mine has a 2012 copyright, so i may have a 1st release clawdeen, may do some wiki searching, but im not overly concerned as long as its not a blatant drop in quality, like when they tried removing the brushes, which oddly enough i noticed right away with rosabelle, which had one
>autism

>>5622928
im going to chalk this up to a budget cut, probably a bit cheaper produce the plastics in fewer colours,

>>5622933
thats pretty amazing, i only got into collecting MH/EAH around xmas 2014 when i found a maddie and a cerise for cheap, and thought oh cute fairy-tale characters, decided to do research on them and ive lovingly regretted it ever since.

also, i could never imagine selling my collection, just yet at least. despite them all in box, its not about reselling value its about keeping quality, if they were resealable, akin to japanese figures, id love to pose and display them.

Even then, i find them in package to be nice aesthetic, clean polished shaping, printed backgrounds, side art, in a "artsy" kind of way, and they stack nicely without shelfing in a manner i can still keep them compact but fully visible.

just looking at how some are packaged with cute back drops, like the thronecoming cupid or blondie i couldn't imagine tearing in that.

they should release a lecture hall or sports themed bleacher playset for displaying whole student bodies worth of dolls for the major collectors. maybe then id open them.

>>5622970
I got into the dolls because they're so poseable and have such cute outfits. Leaving them in box feels like a bit of a shame, especially when so many dolls have such bad box hair. The longest I've left a doll in box was a few months, because the first one was a duplicate of a doll I already have that I got for cheap (and was going to customise), and the second was because I'd spent about a year trying to track down a 3Pack in which all three dolls had nice faces. It felt weird de-boxing them for a while, but eventually I wanted to display them with the others, so out they came. lol

In re: background art, somebody was scanning backgrounds out of art a while back, and fixing them so that they were "seamless" (ie: patching up the folds and holes left by plastic tie-downs). The end goal being that people could print the fixed up scans to use in shelf displays/photos. I'm not sure how far they got, since they were relying on volunteers to send them scans. I think they were being uploaded to Flickr upon completion.

Need some help here. So I moved to a new house a year ago but hadn't had a place to store my dolls until now. Most of them only needed a little brush to the hair and Jinafire lost her little dangly thing to her hair accessory. Three dolls however, have little black smudge marks that I can't seem to remove with regular soap. Will the acne cleaner or acetone trick work in this situation?

If worse comes to worse I was planning on using them as my first faceup guinea pigs, but at the moment I'd prefer to keep these specific three unchanged.

>>5623113
Acetone is a double-edged sword here. On the one hand, it can remove the marks. On the other hand, it can make them worse. It depends on what kind of marks they are.

Were the dolls faces pressed against black fabric or plastic while in storage? Do you know what caused them to get marked up? I'd recommend going with something a bit milder than acetone or acne cream first for that reason.

You said regular soap doesn't work, but was it hand soap or dish soap?

>>5623129
I used unscented hand soap. I was super paranoid and ran out to buy it. Needed it for an irritated piercing anyways. Should I go for dish soap next?

As for what caused it I did have an old black puffy skirt that I used thinking it would help with storage. Although I don't remember the order I grabbed them out but I wouldn't be surprised if these three were on the bottom. They also had the worst hair out of all of them and need a good warm water soak. (Maybe the fabric softener trick?)

>>5623138
I'd try dish soap, then a tiny test application of the acne cream. You could also try a bit of shampoo before the acne cream.

I've used that to get transfer stains out of fabrics before. Might work on vinyl as well, and certainly can't damage the rest unless you leave it soaking for an extended period.

>>5623143
Thanks for the help! I'll try it tomorrow at the same time I do their hair. I'll check in if it doesn't work.

>>5623138
Did some reading: a vintage toy restoration blog recommends baby wipes, baking soda solution, and Mr. Clean magic eraser (if you're stateside and can get one). For baking soda: put a thick paste of it on the stain (mix with water until you get a heavy consistency), then scrub it off with your fingers or a tooth brush. Apparently it can lift the stain without damaging the vinyl, but requires a few tries.

I've heard other people say that Mr. Clean things can take off doll make-up, so be careful around the eyes and lips.

As for why I recommended acetone last, it can cause "holes" to form. Instead of lifting the stain, it can eat into the vinyl and just cause the stain to go deeper into the material.

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>>5623113

I feel you anon. I kept my Twyla in a storage box for a few months and when I pulled her out to air she had developed weird discoloring on her face from a sticky patch on her bangs. I think the glue melted and travelled down to her face and somehow stained it.

Couldn't get it out with soap, acne cream or baking soda. So I sold her on ebay for ooak customising and got another one.

I hope the new owner is treating her well.

Where's a good place to bst MH dolls and parts besides ebay? I need the cam harpy and some other random bits.

>>5623622
Nice dubs.

Bumping because dubs anon has a good question.

>>5623150
Gonna have to try these next since dish soap didn't work.

>>5623614
When I pulled them out I murmered "my poor babies...." At least now I've learned to make sure you store your dolls correctly if they aren't going to be out for a while. I've already given up on my Ghoulia, but my Power Ghouls Spectra was my all time fave. And of course my Power Ghouls Clawdeen had to have the most damaged hair. (Not that she didn't have messy hair when I got her...)

>>5623622
Also seconding this for accessories and stuff. (Like jewelry replacements...)

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>>5623622
perhaps craiglist or kjiji? parents and children try and sell off their toys as they grow older, usually for pretty cheap, at thrift stores you can usually find dolls and toys of assorted but similar genres bagged up for a few dollars.

>daughter of the joker card
>joker card
>card
shes one of my new favorite dolls, but seriously wtf.

>>5623622
>>5624232
Mattel will sell replacements for some pieces. You have to email their service department to find out if they have them (for example, they have most hand and arm replacements and some accessories. I was able to get Sig Rochelle's earrings replaced for 50 cents). As for CAMs, you'll have to just hunt them down. The Harpy was popular as an add-on, so she rarely sells for under $25 even used.

Various forums have sales pages, like the MH Arena or Facebook groups (too many to name), and people will sell loose items for pretty cheap, or in bulk lots. I've gotten replacements for doll pieces I was missing that way (Sig Howleen's backpack and safety pin earring, tonnes of belts and necklaces).

It's just a matter of trawling through the piles of posts to find what you're looking for.

>>5624243
because queen of hearts, card soldiers, etc

>>5624628

Go watch the Way to Wonderland tv movie.

> The Joker can be anyone you want it to be.

awesome line. much evil.

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>>5624628
i know, just the premise of having child with a card soldier, its out there to say the least, even in a universe, or like how little red riding hood had sex with the big bad wolf,

>>5624637
ive only seen the first 2 seasons, i need to catch up, on the next few, is dragon games any good? i sorta wish it was more popular, but i dont want it to get fucked like bronies/mlp, maybe its just where i live but ive never met another collector/ fan of EAH/MH, only a few shy looking older teen girls quietly browse them.

i draw a lot of similarities with the two fandoms, but ive always felt good about the insularness and normalcy of EAH/MH, like ive never seen a 22 year old neckbeard wearing a draculaura shirt in xxxl. like it just makes me wonder how mlp got fucked over by neckbeards and autism, im pretty sure the show is just about cute ponies being friends and tolerence, and from what ive gathered from MH/EAH, is being different and proud individual.

tl;dr i want a full length cartoon, but i dont want bronies and autism to fuck us over, what do?

>>5624653
>tl;dr i want a full length cartoon, but i dont want bronies and autism to fuck us over, what do?

I don't think that'll happen due to the wildly different nature of both franchises, despite both being aimed at girls. Plus, I honestly think the interest on MLP began MERELY because Twilight Sparkle's mane was so strangely similar to Anarchy Stocking's hair.

Not only that, but I doubt the cartoon would have the "big" 90s Cartoon Cartoons names on it's staff (Rob Renzetti, Lauren Faust, etc.), probably it'd have the same people staff as the CGI movies.

Personally, I would've loved the japanese MH cartoon to be full episodes, I kinda liked the takes on the characters in that miniseries.

tl;dr: MLP in it's entirety is a deliberate semi-nostalgic meme, the fanbase wouldn't get toxic like that.

>>5624662
I think there's a bit of the obnoxiousness similar to Bronies already in MH fandom, but not to the same degree. /toy/soldiers aside, I'm wary of any man who is into the line openly, because I've had too many negative experiences with their bullshit. The ones that have been particularly bad are also self-proclaimed Bronies, so that doesn't help either.

Anyway. I doubt it would get as bad, but the fandom already has some annoying factions in it, and those little pockets are the reason I avoid MH tags on Tumblr.

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>>5624662
very true, the animation studio that does the EAH shorts are surprisingly well paced and scripted, so i have no problem except that they are not simply longer, sorta like the format in lucky star or (generic slice of life anime)

i remember just waking up one day and MLP,Fim was the hottest shit around, posters were saying, it had high quality art, great characters, cameos, references for the older viewers, so i dove in stoked on a good cartoon, and i had trouble sitting through episodes 1-3 and called it a day. Im usually pretty open with most animes/ cartoons, unless its toddler tier or simply a badly made show, and i couldn't find the appeal that so many found.

>>5624674
i havn't looked to hard, as im opposed to chatting with most likely children about toys, i have seen stuff similar to what you are talking about though.

> /toy/soldiers aside
i think for a fanbase to spergout they have to be more into the media, like i bought a few, watched the EAH shorts to learn about the characters, and that lead me to collecting them pretty hard, i have over 80 EAH/MH dolls but it is by no means a deciding factor in my life, and i guess thats it. Its the difference in thought process, thats why i like /toy/, the dolls come first then its kind of nice to remember we have a cute little show to watch now and again

on the flipside, i see majority of people, bronies, who seem to orbit around re watching the same seasons of shows, im sure there is some major collectors out their but it seems like a vast majority just wanna erp online with other bronies rewatching the same shows, struggling to buy 12 dollar toys of solid color plastic with a mane.

>when you stare into the autism long enough, the autism stares backs

>>5624701
They're not children. They're fully grown lunatics. Who argue about shipping, scream obscenities at one another in tags, and so on, but also post #noshamesunday photos with their collections of dolls.

It is a strange, strange pocket of the internet, and I avoid it as much as humanly possible.

>>5624637
i...did? i don't get what you meant by that

>>5624653
dragon games is one of the better movies, imo. my personal least favorite is spring unsprung.

>>5624674
Personally, I've never met ANY real fans of MH anywhere other than /toy/, so I didn't knew.

Also, I find Tumblr cancerous as a whole, I just... hate that place.

>>5624701
I'm not gonna lie, I liked MLP a lot, but after a while, the fanbase obnoxiousness just killed my interest. I never liked the whole "brony" thing from the beggining, I saw it as a "Sonic fanbase 2.0 in the making", and I was right.

I know what you mean though, I really wished the japanese MH shorts were Lucky Star format. Lagoona was my favorite in that version with her silly demeanor.

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>>5624718
>They're not children. They're fully grown lunatics.
guess i should have assumed kids would playing with toys and not shit posting on mattel forums about them.
>>5624728
thats good to hear, i was a little put off by the doll designs so i wasnt sure if that correlated to the movie or not, and on the latter, thats shitty, spring unsprung of some of my favourite designs

>>5624730
i can see where your coming from as well, by second hand learning of the characters and their fan art human forms, i think the ponies are cute characters with good personalities, but as you mentioned with such a stigma around bronies, or i guess any well sized fanbase that are represented by "that kid", ie naruto, cool manga, kinda ran long, anime sucked till they finally threw a bit of budget at it and it became tolerable if you skipped filler, enter that kid from school with the head band, segueing every conversation into how thats similar to kakashi's dream in chaper 420, now you cant really bring it up without sounding like you have major shit tastes.

>got these anthro pony dolls at a walmart 2 for 1 at 50% clearence,
>paid like 20 dollars for like 7 dolls that i thought looked cute
>dont like the show, at least seen a few episodes though
>literally the first thing people see in a room with 300+ toys
>really anon? ponies?
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you

>>5624761
>dont like the show, at least seen a few episodes though
>literally the first thing people see in a room with 300+ toys


That reminds me of the old man story.

>I made that wooden bridge. Do they call me carpenter? No.
>I build that house, do they call me builder? No.
>They all say the same thing
>"You fucked one goat"

Oh man, Naruto. To be honest, I personally thought it went downhill extremely fast after Zabuza.

Also

>Mattel having forums

What did they expect? Kids don't post in forums.

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>>5624779
>zabuza
great arch, for me it wa the chunin exams, they story kinda slowed down, and only getting a chapter or 2 a month from shonen jump really killed my interest, it wasnt until grade 11 my good friend revealed he was a mega narufag in disguise, so i obliged him and let him show the good parts i missed, and it let me it in a more neutral light.

>mattel
i use to order most of dolls from them, until they sent my a smashed asshole of a box with the 6x4 shipping label sticker on the back, and then expected me to pay for tracked shipping because they sent me garbage, i know im a speck in their business but still when a customers placing weekly 100 dollar orders, i kind expect assurance of quality, NiB dolls are usually cheaper and better condition on ebay, compared to order a mnib straight from mattel, its pathetic.

>>5624730
>I find Tumblr cancerous as a whole
If you know how to curate the list of people you follow, it can be a really nice place. Just like any other format of social media, really.

The problem is, I've yet to find even one MH blog with any real following that doesn't get sucked into the annoying aspects of fandom. There are some photo ones that are good, but they don't update regularly, and the actual tags are just a goddamn mess.

>>5624825
I know what you mean about Tumblr, but sadly it seems to me that the "bad" parts of Tumblr have expanded more and more compared to 2-to-3 years ago.

>>5624845
Yeah, it definitely has changed a lot since I joined. I got on there for a different hobby and, for the most part, I've managed to avoid all the dramabombs and stupidity associated with fandom, but it's getting harder.

I've started removing more and more blogs in the last few months, because their content has just completely changed. I followed them for one reason, but now they post completely different content. And because the tags for the things I like are often a landmind of cow pats, I have a hard time finding new ones to add to my dashboard that aren't going to do the same thing in six months.

So many people are driven by how many notes they get on an account that they'll change focus completely in a short span of time, trying to grab onto that Tumblr fame. It's really annoying.

>>5624953
As someone who doesn't Tumblr much, if at all, what Monster High tags should I avoid there?

>>5624761
well spring unsprung the dolls/designs were absolutely gorgeous. the movie itself was just boring to me unfortunately

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>>5625729
yeah i got cherise and through the woods set and just never remembers to finish getting the 3 other SU dolls, at least its not as vicious as forgetting to hit the comic book store and missing like 20-50 issues, cause you didnt show up their 10am every wednesday to cherrypick.

really im only upset about not being to find a bunny blanc, or whoever. that and i really fucked up by not getting all 4 throne coming dolls, managed to get blondie and cupid for 20 cdn opposed to their regular listing of 35-39 dollars, but now i cant find the last at all, and mattel took them down.

>>5626043
>bunny
i've still seen bunny in a few different stores, i think at my target we still had one or two in the last month or so. thronecoming might be a bit harder but i was only interested in the TC apple and raven

>>5625487
Honestly? All of them. You can find good, individual posts in there, but it's mixed in with complaints about stupid shit and fighting.

Darth-Alinart posts updates on leaks and when things are put up on Amazon, so that's pretty much the only MH Tumblr I follow at this point.

>>5622563
I read somewhere that the Epic Winter dolls don't come with stands.

>>5627502
i think he meant the signatures and the featured lines, but yeah. rayedelsol did a review on EW Blondie and she didn't come with a stand. from what i've seen, the EW dolls are like super cheap looking too.

>>5627502
>>5627556
yep no stands but thats not a problem for me i usually keep my dolls in box and the only dolls i want from that line are Crystal and Crystal with the sparklizer

>>5627677
for me the only ones i want are the daring/rosabella 2pack and crystal, otherwise they're just not doing it for me

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>>5627691
>>5627677
from the sounds of the varied tastes it seems like if we all lived together we could have the best collection in history lol

>>5627502
Epic Winter no have no stands, and "rereleases" of Dragon Games do not either. Which means most international releases are standless, and that standless dolls started popping up in North America as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZq5_2HMFww

>>5628505
thanks for the post, I don't watch robot chicken so wouldn't have seen it otherwise and it was great.

>>5612369
I really hate how serious and thoughtful Deuce was in his diary and how in the episodes they turned him into a dudebro. I just want to see more of his personality.

>>5624728

I think of Spring Unsprung as part 1 for Way to Wonderland. They both go together nicely, but on their own it's not as great.

Dragon Games, however, is awesome even as a standalone show.

I wonder what they'll do next. Seems like most of the big issues they introduced in Ever After have run their course (Raven's story, curse on Wonderland, Wicked queen).

>>5627556

THEY CUT HER BEAR EARS??
Ok I don't care as much about the stands since I can buy extras elsewhere, but the ears have me pissed.

>>5588964
I thought Moanica was Ghoulias sister? Their last names are different though.

>>5629431
>Ever After have run their course (Raven's story, curse on Wonderland, Wicked queen)
yep EAH its ending :,(
>>5629682
maybe its her nickname or maybe they gonna change their last name

>>5629431
i feel like EAH is going to turn into MH now in terms of movies - various adventures, new characters. i liked that EAH sort of told a story but it had to end at some point

>>5629682
Moanica isn't Ghoulia's sister, she's a completely standalone character
>>5629441
i know, i HATED that. like part of the reason blondie's EW doll was so cute was because of the bear ear hood and now she doesn't even have that.

>>5629953
I thought as much. I was just curious because it was mentioned in one of the books that she had an older sister named Moanica.
I guess the toy line decided to go in another direction.
Either way the doll is really cute and I can't wait to get it!

>>5629682
She could be adopted? Or maybe their parents are different, related via marriage. (that is if they're going to keep them as sisters)

>>5629953
>>5629999
Ah, that explains it then. She's still super cute, can't wait to see her doll in person.

>>5629995
>>5630002
I think she was supposed to be originally? But I guess she's supposed to have graduated so maybe it wouldn't have made sense. I agree though, I didn't think I'd like her but she's so cute.

>>5630002
>>5629999
>>5630054
Reboot.

They changed her name when the "Monstrous Rivals" two pack was announced, but some of the early survey leaks were for Moanica Yelps. It looks like the reboot will be seeing Moanica and Ari replacing Ghoulia and Spectra, at least in terms of the main line/movie line release for We Are Monster High.

It's likely Ghoulia and Spectra will still get dolls in future, though. Spectra has a couple of fashion packs that are trademarked and prototyped in these: >>5616601
>>5616600

(Apparently; I only see the one with silver shoes and the purple dress that's super Spectra)

>>5630264
yeah there were some mattel reps that said that ghoulia and spectra will still exist, but i doubt they'll still be main characters

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>>5630264
Somebody say Spectra?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65HcZAb4WFs

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>>5630382
That fire hydrant dog though

>>5630382
>Sees Mattel logo

So not only reusing plastic molds, but also names? Sneaky!

>>5630769
because Clawdeen wasn't just a trademark grab on one of the old She-Ra names.

>>5630854
Wait, there was a Clawdeen in She-Ra?

I only remember He-Man clearly, not She-Ra that much except for She-Ra herself and the Horde.

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>>5631253
there you go

This doesn't look too promising for the future of the franchise:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/monster-high-best-ghouls-collection/id1097980742

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>>5631585
That's hilarious.

Do you prefer Monster High or Ever After High?

>>5632043
Monster High, just can't get in to Ever After High which comes across to me as too childish and I just find the characters really ugly looking with their big fat round faces,

>>5631688
the fact the dolls don't actually sell out like they used to was already a sign. The fiction going from social commentary to lame girl cartoon about fashion was another.

>>5631585
>jealous beauty

I love the fact Filmation totally ignored Mattel's plans for the toys and made a totally unique fiction using a newer set of He-Man villains instead. Instead of being some jealous bitch, Catra was more Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS, to Hordak's Hitler.

>>5632043
Monster High has better doll designs, but Ever After High has a better story.

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>>5632093
>The fiction going from social commentary to lame girl cartoon about fashion was another.

Why did this happen? Did they change writing staff or Mattel interviened?

>>5632043
Monster High because they have more unique characters (in terms of design)
Ever After High because I like fairy tales and I like the plot/story much better although that's probably going away. plus the characters are adorable to me

>>5632043
Monster High. Didn't like the looks of Ever After High, so never really bothered getting into the fiction.

>>5632101
Mid 2014? Sales went down in 2015 as well, so that has also had an impact. With the reboot, they've pushed even harder to try and reclaim the younger audience they had with the Disney Princess IP.

Likewise on the dumbing down of toys in the EAH line. That IP was never as lucrative as MH, but they want to try and make it so.

>>5632194
EAH could have been good. not as good as MH but it had the potential. mattel ruined it when they decided that if they couldn't have both EAH and the Disney line, they would try and get the audience back with EAH which would tank it even further. coupled with the lower quality over the past year or so, they basically ran it into the ground.

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>>5628505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McXPTjia7vQ

Whilst we are at it.

>>5632194
Hm, maybe they needed to focus on other characters to sell more dolls, as I see it, MH is still REALLY popular among girls, I see them all the time with MH Backpacks when they get out of school.

Realistically, how many times will a girl rebuy Draculaura in a different outfit.

>>5632411
Quite a few times, actually.

When I was a kid, Barbie didn't have much diversity in terms of repeat characters. You sometimes had a black doll, or a brunette doll, but most of the releases were just Barbie with different gimmicks, and that's the route they're trying out now.

You've got Diner re-release Draculaura with food and seating. You've got Transformation Draculaura with a high-low skirt that turns into batwings. You've got Draculaura Basic, but also Rivals, and Welcome to Monster High Dance Party.

It's the MH equivalent to Fun in the Sun Barbie, Crimp and Style Barbie, and Bath Bubbles Barbie, basically. All those Barbies? Looked the same, with some simple hair changes and a few gimmicky accessories. Little Girls still bought the hell out of them. MH at least changes the hair and make-up with most releases.

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>>5632587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

Sums up Barbie releases.

EAH suffers the same problem that Equestria Girls suffered form- it was a line that the consumers didn't ask for, or even want when it was offered to us.

EAH was mostly "public domain" fairy tale knockoffs that tried to ride on Disney movies made about those same public domain tales, that anyone only ever looked at because of some superfluous connection to Monster High.
Meanwhile MH had its plot dumbed down.

It's a shame that Bratzillaz failed. You can buy the 5 initial release dolls for less than retail and they came out 3-4 years ago. They were a better made doll with inset glass eyes and some effort out into the clothing that almost felt like top quality 1:6 clothing. The web toon they developed even seemed like it cared more about being watchable, but that got canned fast. MH really needed a strong competing line to keep it in check and it never got it.

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New image of the Draculaura and Moanica pack. Moanica's starting to look better.

That vagina looking purse though...

>>5632826
I'll second the flood of variant dolls as a big issue with the line. Mattel ditched standard clothing packs pretty quickly.

The webtoon plot changed. It strated out that humans and monsters were still separated, and even monsters were separated by a racial divide, with MH opening to try to be the first social experiment to break those barrriers. Early specials really focused on that. Now they seemed to have forgotten about any of that, so much so that the fact these are monsters is irrelevant.

>>5632093
I'm not sure what you've been watching, but the MH movies still deal with a few real life issues, and they're still a hell of a lot more varied and original than other cartoons for girls. At the least, it's not focusing on fashion all the time.

>>5632405
If Bratz killed Barbie and MH killed the Bratz, then whose killing MH?

>>5632829
Unpopular opinion incoming. I actually like this Draculaura more than the original because she looked like she had a fat, swollen face.

>>5632826
Bratzillas were hideous, though. The nice clothing and inset eyes couldn't make up for those ugly faces and weird proportions.

I've bought a few fashion packs to put on MH dolls though, I will admit. The clothes are also getting recycled by MGA. The "backpack" moulds have shown up in the MC2 line for sure, but also a couple of other accessories.

>>5632871
Mattel.
But if you want a doll franchise, then Frozen. Yeah, the popularity of Frozen has already gone past its peak, so really, an established franchise like Monster High could just ride it out and wait, but Mattel is also desperate to try to reclaim some of that Disney Princess doll money.

>>5632991

It's sad to know that a good franchise can be changed or stopped just because it doesn't make enough money

>>5632829
>That vagina looking purse though...
THAT'S KIND OF HOT!

>>5632826
>MH really needed a strong competing line to keep it in check and it never got it.
Yes, this so much. Mattel never really had a serious threat to MH, so they had no incentive to actually be innovative. They essentially had a monopoly on the fantasy doll market.

>>5632405
Ghouls Rule doll but wears her signature outfit under the coat? Weird

New thread: >>5633574

>>5632043
I like MH for the unique character sculpts on the dolls and EAH for the detailed clothes.