Transformers General

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>>5547226
NO NEW FEET, TAKARA BTFO

>>5547226
Hmmm, I just realized nosecone's drill is pointed down in combined mode, I'm guessing it folds down

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Shit - The Fallen is attacking Autobot City? Who can save us now?

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>>5547239

>YOU GOT THE HEART
>YOU GOT THE MOTION
>AND YOU KNOW THAT WHEN THINGS G-

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GIVE ME YOUR FACE

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>>5547242
Go on...

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Fin.

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>>5547233

I'd be getting PE hands/feet anyway. It's the lack of Scrounge that bothers me, since Scrounge probably isn't going to be sold seperately like the other Legends addon figures. Plus it's possible the Takara version is going to use that fucking terrible Blasoff mold on their version judging by that super chunky left arm shadow.

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>>5547226
Hasbro:
>New hands & feet that aren't heels
>New torso paint
>Obscure bonus figure Scrounge

Takara:
>New combiner head
>New combiner gun

Hasbro bros

>>5547226
>takara is wip
>that is takara betatron

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>>5547251

>>5547239
Wait megatronus is that small?

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>>5547254
>>5547256

The WIP thing might even mean it may have the new fists/feet whenever it gets a real product shot and not some ambiguous shadow.

>>5547226
>>5547254

Leaning towards Hasbro on this one, need to see clear pictures of Strafe and Lightspeed to decide.

>>5547263
He's pretty dinky. Taller than Legends figures, but only about as tall as, say, Beast Hunters Lazerback if you compare him to other deluxes.

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>>5547251
noice.

>>5547266
Takara seems big on consistency, because they haven't tried new feet or hands a single time

>>5547254
>A literal who from some of the worst TF fiction in history
VS
>A proper combined mode head
As if it's even a choice.

>>5547295
Yet they then do weird ass stuff like give vortex 4 blades.

>>5547301
Scournge isn't from a James Roberts comic.

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>>5547301
Indeed.
Scrounge, here I come!

>>5547301
To each there own really
I'm going more hasbro because I feel Superions head will be more to my liking then a show accurate Computron.

>>5547306
I know. He's a Bob "Carwash of Doom" Budiansky creation.

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Saw this little fucker yesterday. Worth it? I assume a warrior class might not happen.

>>5547311
His cybertron arc was ok
I feel
He gets a bit to shitted on
Yes a good chunck of his ideas were bad but he hasn't made lasting scars to the community like Bay or the mid range IDW stuff has

>>5547311
Yep. Bob "invented the personalities of every Transformer for the first half decade of the franchise" Budiansky

Compared to James "Transforming is evil, let's sit in bars and drink" Roberts

>>5547319
>still using the "they never transform" meme
Get some new bait, kid.

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>>5547226
At this point, the only thing convincing me to get UW Computron is that fuckhuge drill on Nosecone.

A third party will make their own, right guys...?

>>5547254
Takara looks like 3/5 of the molds are different.
Like, Hasbro Computron uses the Streetwise, Brawl and Skydive molds for Lightspeed, Nosecone and Strafe, but the silhouette of the Takara one looks like it replaces this three molds with the Breakdown, Rook and Blast Off ones.

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>>5547301
>not wanting a repaint of this god tier mold
Come on now

>>5547312
What you see is what you get. Very characterful, but really hard to get any play/pose out of it.

Wait for a sale.

>>5547325
>Rook
Why do you say that?

Takara Tomy should resurrect the unreleased Titanium 6 inch Cosmos and use that as Scrounge, just for the "wait, what the fuck" of it all

>>5547332
I seem to remember the reasoning for those molds never being used in Generations was since they were made for diecast you couldn't just inject them with plastics. I await being corrected.

>>5547254

Helping you out, champ:

Takara:

>New combiner head and weapons
>Standard HFGs
>Blast Off Strafe
>Fuck-huge drill Nosecone
>Wheeljack Lightspeed
>Toon-accurate deco
>Higher price point, and possibly a Takara-Tomy mall exclusive

Hasbro:
>Superion head and default accessories
>Dedicated hands and feet
>Air Raid Strafe
>Narrow drill Nosecone
>Streetwise Lightspeed
>Mix of toon and toy accuracy w/ extra design liberties
>Scrounge and his Targetmaster
>Lower price point, and it will qualify for free shipping on many sites.

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oh shit it IS rook

This is hilarious; it seems as if Hasbro and Takara made their Computrons completely independently other than Afterburner and Scattershot being a Silverbolt retool. And I bet Scattershot will have more retooling on the chest so it doesn't look like Superion as much.

>>5547348
If it is, then that's a massive retool.

>>5547348
Oh wow.
So at this point it's undeniably just personal taste kind of shit since only two of the five molds used are even similar enough to draw comparison.

>>5547329
I see something that looks like Rook or Swindle's shoulders on the Nosecone leg.

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>>5547348
If thats the case, then that Nosecone would turn into Drillhorn for Liokaiser, avoiding the double Brawl.

>>5547254
Gonna just go with Hasbro, cheaper comes with a bonus two team members. Don't have to deal with a poopdown remold. I can't live with a future jet and not a shuttle it's not as bad as Blastoff's downgrade. Worst comes to worse maybe 3P will do upgrade parts.

Too bad no one made a Blastoff shutlte upgrade kit for the CW one. I thought replacing the jet kibble for shuttle kibble would be easy since it's on a screw/

>>5547361
Well, they have these options open:

-Use Nosecone for both Drillhorn, and Killbison
-Retool Brawl to match Killbison more (mostly the arms)
-Make a new tank mold

If they just straight up reuse Brawls mold for Killbison, I'll be disappointed.

>>5547371
Other than having dual turrets when the design allows you to swap out them anyway, what would need a new tank?

>>5547371
Oh yeah, they'll probably use two Skydive's. No clue if they'll go the extra mile, and make a new torso using two figures.

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>>5547362
>Too bad no one made a Blastoff shutlte upgrade kit for the CW one

There are Shapeways parts made for it but... yeah, Shapeways. It also involves literally destroying the old jet parts to remove them.

>>5547374
We got more than one car, and plane, another tank can't hurt.

>>5547380
Because there are multiple types of cars and jets.
All tanks are the same.

>>5547378
it looks like it was sculpted from literal shit.

>>5547382
>All tanks are the same.

Not really.

>>5547384
That's just Shapeways parts, everything from Shapeways has that rough grainy texture.

>>5547386
Prove it

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>>5547390

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>>5547390

>>5547393
The only thing different is the gun part

>>5547388

Thus it's not really an improvement, because the parts look like shit.

>>5547393
Hey that one on the left looks like that one Energon combiner guy.

>>5547396
I'm so sorry anon.

>>5547401
https://youtu.be/eunKb6MUYeU
I remember that guy, always wanted it until cw came out

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>>5547382
>>5547386
>>5547390
>>5547396
>>5547402
This is a teachable moment.
On the internet, no matter what is being discussed, when someone says something incredibly stupid, there's no point in trying to correct, educate, or refute them.

Either they're saying something to try and goad you into responding, in which case you're giving in to the troll, or they really are that dumb, and have enough conviction to express it, in which case you're wasting your breath. Don't feed trolls. And don't argue with stupid people -- they'll drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

It's ALWAYS better to just ignore shitposters and move on.

>>5547417

If only people realized this. Sadly, it's also just as pointless to bring this up because the BS will never end.

People dumb as fuck.

>>5547347
Thanks, this list is bit more objective.

Didn't even notice the drill differences really. I like the small hasbro one better. The guns on Hasbros upper thighs look new as well

>>5547473
Those are Groove's guns.

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>>5547473
The guns on Hasbro's thighs are just Groove's but in different colors

>>5547473
Oh, and as other people pointed out, Takara apparently replaced Brawl with a retooled Rook.

>>5547473
The Takara thight guns are accurate to the shoulder guns on g1 Scattershot.

What's the difference between the toon and toy colors of the Technobots?

From what I can tell, Nosecone is orane and red rather than the yellow on the toy.

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>>5547226
>Why bother when neither can compete with the supior Quantron

Other than price point of course... I mean.. Quantron is $300

>>5547305
>weird

Nigga G1 Vortex has always had four blades, UW has been all about G1 accuracy if you haven't noticed.

>>5547498
and a greebly fucking mess

>>5547500
but the new idw g1 has vortex with two blades

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>>5547301
I hated the original Marvel comics, but don't you talk shit about Scournge. I feel so bad for the guy.

>bought the the Rumble/Ravage and Frenzy/Ratbat FoC discs to go with my Trailbreaker order at BBTS as they were on clearance
>noticed the colors are switched on R/F

Now if only I had the FoC Soundwave so I can shoot the discs out. Aftermarket prices on FoC stuff is ridiculous.

Ratbat also seems too big to fit into the case he comes with.

>>5547503
It really isn't that crazy on the greebles. Metal Storms wings are greebly, and sonic drill is a bit greebly, but for the most part it's totally fine.

>>5547506
Yes, but UW is about G1 accuracy, not IDW accuracy, sans Grand Prime and Grand Galvatronus.

>>5547500
>UW has been all about G1 accuracy if you haven't noticed.
Not him, but giving all these G1 accurate things to figures that clearly aren't G1 is definitely coming off pretty weird. Why bother giving him 4 blades when the entire alt mode is different?

>>5547506
Bruticus isn't even in IDW. At least not yet. And if he did show up, he'd have two blades to match the toy, not the other way around.

>>5547226
So to get the best Computron, you'll have to get both, and:

-Use most of Hasbro's Scattershot except the combiner head, and plane backpack, then add those from the UW for the best colors.
-Use Dead End version of Lightspeed (UW is more accurate, but a worse mold)
-Either Strafe depending on preferences.
-Hasbro hand/feet parts
-UW Nosecone
-UW weapons
-Either Afterburner

>>5547529
If he does show up, he might end up looking more like a combo of CW, and WFC Bruticus.

>>5547529
And with Swindle dead (he'll come back definitely, but not for a bit of time for sure) abd Hasbro moving on to a new gimmick that isn't combining, I don't see Bruticus stomping into the comics in the near future.

There was a pic posted on these threads not too long ago featuring CW Bruticus with angry looking eyes. I believe it originated in a Hong Kong Facebook post.

Anyone still have that, or how it can be achieved?

>>5547498
I have it. I'm still buying UW Computron. The problem I have with Quantron is that the transformations on some of them are more complicated than they need to be and Afterburner and Nosecone don't even look that much like the characters in robot mode.

>>5547546
On a related note, am I the only one that thinks Onslaught looks depressed? It's the way his eyes are sloped or something. Does UW Onslaught look any different in the face?

>>5547550
Just curious.. but what figures are more complicated than need be? I really don't have any issues with any of them other than Nosecone being fiddly.

>>5547573
Nosecone and Lightspeed. Nosecone especially is a fucking jigsaw puzzle of parts that are hard to get lined up. All for robot modes that aren't even that accurate to the characters. It's fucking unnecessary and it's overengineering like that that's making me lose interest in 3P figures.

>>5547498
>more than twice the price of the UW, more than 3x the price of the CW
>looks absolutely nothing like the source, other than being a mess of red plastic
>numerous reports of people breaking shit on him because of the fiddly as fuck transformations

Don't get me wrong, some 3P stuff is amazing.

Not Quantron, though.

For anybody looking for CW limbs Hasbro Toy Shop now has Sky Reign's limbs and still has Combaticons in stock, and the SPRING16 code gives you 15 percent off figures.

>>5547503
>and a greebly fucking mess
You don't actually know what that means do you.

>>5547584
Let me guess, they still haven't added the new voyagers.

>>5547586
If you mean Sky Lynx and Onslaught, nope.
Can get those in a case from BBTS at least.

>>5547322
A drill that can't drill knee is useless no matter how big it is.

>>5547584
Does the code give free shipping as well? I know they've done codes that do that, and I've been meaning to pick up the Combaticon limbs.

>>5547559
You know who looks depressed? Defensor?

>>5547601
*Defensor.

Dunno why I put a question mark there...

>Trailbreaker's handfoot has brand new molding for the fingers part that.. removes the fingers

That's random as fuck. Why bother?

Also the back of his comic calls the combiner team he's part of the 'Sky King' team while Hound's calls it Sky Reign. Guess King was going to be the original name?

>>5547226

I can't pick now between Hasbro or Takara.

fucking hell.

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>>5547253
Anon, you can still get CW Computron with Scrounge and buy him the PE head. It's cheaper than the feet kit

>fucking terrible Blasoff mold
Come on man, dont judge molds that you dont have in-hand. You're better than that

>buy both Computrons
>keep Scrounge
>keep Hasbro feet and hands
>use Takara set as base
>keep Takara Scattorshot
>probably keep Rook-into-Nosecone since it looks better executed
>probably keep Takara Lightspeed since the Wheeljack mold is a better match for Lightspeed despite being a shitty figure
>keep Afterburner since it won't have stupid random green color on it
>possibly sub in Hasbro Strafe for Takara's since using the shuttle mold is dumb

>combine the leftovers into one Computron, sell

I don't understand what the big problem is.

>>5547616

So you're gonna spend $200+ and try to recoup some of the loss on eBay or something?

That probably won't work out very well for you at all, man. You'd be better off just buying one or the other.

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>>5547301
>Hating Scrounge.

He died for your sins for nothing.

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If you don't want Scrounge and his special arm get the heck out of my face.

>>5547613
What are the chances of someone setlling bootleg hand/feet parts from Computron.

>>5547616

The only real thing that really bothers me about Hasbro Computron is that Brawl's horrible toy gets another chance to sadden people. Swapping it out for UW's Rook retool is all I would really care to do.

>>5547582
Nosecone is really goofy, yes. Lightspeed is really fucking simple after you transform him once or twice though.

>>5547617
You'd be surprised. I might lose out a bit in the end, I could cut even. People will buy a Computron, even if it's a mix of Hasbro and Takara releases. I sold my Frankenstein'd Energon/Movie Bruticus Maximus with the add on for $100, same for the Aerialbots. Some of those guys were literally a mix of three different toys into one.

>>5547625
I really want to see how they handle Leokaiser. I'd be amazing if they make a new torso, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>5547613
still no back cannon...

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>>5547624
It's not gonna happen

>>5547635
They'd buy it if you sold it for $50
Otherwise they'd just get the actual Computron set.

>>5547625
I bet they'll retool Silverbolt.

>>5547643
It might happen since ROTF Optimus had a number of his add-ons sold on their own by Third-Party groups.

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>>5547638
They could remold SIlverbolt again, I was working on a custom until they announced the oficial, I mean the mold even works alright for Blacker.

>>5547652
Sweet. I'm so jealous dude.

>>5547652
>better retool than Hasbro puts out

If only budget constraints and laziness weren't a thing.

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>mfw retards compaining about Groove never coming to the US cause it's "too complex" and has clear plastic, so it must cost more money
>mfw we get a remold of said toy in the US, with clear plastic

>mfw I said months ago that Takara would replace Rook and Takeoff in their sets when Hasbro unveiled theirs
>mfw people scrambling to sell off inferior US versions to have complete teams when Takara unveiled theirs

>mfw people thought Hasbro was only going to do Scattorshot as Betatron and no Technobots

Calling it now, Takara will do Lio Kaiser, and if Sky Lynx doesn't have an extensive remold that make Leozak into a proper robot, Takara will one way or another. Screencap it now, autists.

>>5547668
Silverbolt Leozack, UW Nosecone Drillhorn, and a retool of UW Nosecone as Killbison. Calling it.

>>5547378
Robot mode pic?

>>5547645
Like I said, you'd be surprised. I'll get most of my money back. Some people just don't care about Hasbro/Takara mixing even in sets. They're not autistic like that. Especially if you make it $10-$20 cheaper than retail. I've sold plenty of figures and sets like this.

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>>5547660
Thanks, RC is still a work in progress, heres a quick shop, still need to draw the stickers and find a way to atach the arms without spending on more deluxes.

>>5547668

Good. Now try being proud of something that actually matters.

>>5547681
>arms attach on instead on forcing extra members on for accuracy
I came

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>>5547681
Huh, that actually looks pretty good.

>>5547676
They may use Brawl for Killbison, just so they don't have to include 2 of the same mold, for Hellbat they could use Skydive, he has the same wings and you can fanmode the g1 configuration rotating the shoulders, Then just repaint Air Raid as Guyhawk.

>>5547681
How's he gonna bend his knees with a configuration like that?

Looks impressive, though.

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>>5547133
Sachiel Starscream when?

>>5547706
Only when we get Rei Arceenami.

Are we definite that nosecone's a rook remold? seems like a odd thing to do, considering we already have Brawl (with tread arms and all).

>All these fags arguing over CW or UW
>Not buying both since they have such big differences you can actually justify that for once

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>>5547704
Thats how the g1 was, like the "g1 fanmode" for superion, thats how they'll be displayed, but for posing just need to do a quick knee turn.

>>5547681
You gonna steal menasors sword for rc?

>>5547713
Brawl has design issues, limited articulation on the shoulders, the arms disappear if you bend his elbows and the lack of real waist, Rook on the other hand is one of the best on the line, not saying that they listen to the forums, but almost everyone hated Brawl.

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>there are people who hate the opportunity for a remold of Cosmos

I don't know who Scrounge is and I don't give a shit, my country finally getting a UFOformer is the best news I've had all week

>>5547732
I guess, but it'll require a lot of remolding to work, same with Strafe.

>>5547740
This. Idgaf about Scrounge but I just want another iteration of that mold.

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>>5547723
Nah, I'm using movie Skyblast weapons to keep the G1 gimmick of 3 weapons fusing into one, but now into a lance instead of a sword.

>>5547714
>wanting two of the same guy just because there's plenty of differences in mold and coloring

No. Pick and choose the best parts, put them together.

Anyone preordered MP Ratchet? I'm on the fence since my only MPs are Prowl and Soundwave ( + cassettes) and I'm not sure how well Ratchet would mesh with my Generations toys and it's pricey, but my shelf is missing a proper Ratchet. I'd rather get one that's closer to IDW design, though.

I had a dream where I bought MP Ironhide and thought it was amazing, despite the odd pelvis.

Is he really good, /tfg/?

>>5547786
You could always just buy it and pretend it's good like people have been with all MP's since Star Saber.

>>5547788
>bait.jpeg

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>>5547652

>>5547810
They basically showcase the different mentalities the two companies possess now.

>>5547681

this is great.

finally a use for Energon Prowl.

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>>5547347
>tfw you prefer the UW version by far but want Scrounge really bad
I hope you'll be able to buy him separately pretty cheap

>>5547842
This is my situation too. The molds Takara is using are better and I'm replacing the hands/feet with the PE ones regardless but I still need Scrounge somehow

>>5547844
Accuracy aside, the Streetwise mold>Wheeljack mold.

I dunno about the Blast Off mold, though.

>>5547842
people are already splitting up the G2 aerialbots and stunticons, so I'm sure someone somewhere will sell it off.

>>5547848
Splitting them up for what, Wildrider and Slingshot?

>>5547842
>>5547844

We got a Takara version of Powerglide and some other legends in Transformers Adventure so maybe we'll get an individual release from Japan?

>>5547855
They already released Cosmos, and Takara isn't to keen on repaints.

>>5547846
Accuracy is the problem though. The Hasbro one is guaranteed to have the stupid lightbar on top and possibly no new head.

e.g. Even though Universe Hound is a better toy than Universe Ironhide I wouldn't want an Ironhide that's a repainted Hound just because Hound's mold is the better toy.

>>5547855
Scrounge is a literal who even in America, though.

>>5547864
Come to think of it, why does Smokescreen have the light bar? Wouldn't they have had to use the original mold to make the G2 Dead End and Brake Neck toys anyway?

>>5547871
Because he shares Prowls mold, like always. It would have been weird for them to use different molds.

>>5547866
Funny enough, Takara is probably more prone to make some obscure Marvel thing than Hasbro, even if more of the fans of that character are western.

>>5547871
I guess they wanted him to share all the parts with Prowl. There's more parts different on Dead End and Streetwise/Prowl than just the roof.

>>5547871
the absolute height of laziness.

>>5547828
Playability vs Collectability

>>5547875
TH=hey could have just used Dead End's mold piece for the roof and that's it.

>>5547866
Wipeout is even more of a complete nobody and Takara did a repaint for him.

>>5547887
Not really, they both have the same playability, It's more like whatever works versus a attempt at accuracy.

>>5547498
>Claims superior
> Posts a pic of Quantron in shambles, left leg falling apart, right leg misformed, can't even actually transform his superior figure

At least you tried champ

Hasbro's will work just fine and with pe's kit added will be spectacular

>>5547895
Playability, being translated to easier for kids to get into/parents to aquire

>>5547901
True.

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>>5547511
>Now there is not even one like it!
I've read that issue, and it was pretty good as Transformers fiction goes, but fuck, I cannot stop laughing.

>>5547498
Dust your fucking shelves, you filthy animal. I'm actually surprised that the amount of dust hasnt made quantron fall apart, considering how much of a fiddly mess it was.

How they went from Giant to that mess is beyond me.

>>5547917
I think the real tipping point for me for not nabbing Quantron was the fact that he was paper thin from the side. I absolutely hate when combiners are only in inch deep, it's my number one peeve when it comes to that. Guardia looks like an improvement though, I like the way he looks save for Hot Spot.

>>5547895

it's budgeting above all else, not that Hasbro literally does whatever

>>5547395
My sides.

>>5547741
>I guess, but it'll require a lot of remolding to work, same with Strafe.

They can literally repaint it as Drillhorn to make back the costs so it's a double whammy.

>>5548025
I guess they could do that.

Anyone else skipping Liokaiser? the fact he's not a six man team and doesn't have the breastmaster partners sullies it (which will most likely be true of any UW release).

>>5548038
Nope getting liokaiser, he's tall enough ti fave off against mp star saber. Just gonna wait and see if taktom does color accurate

>>5547512
No they aren't. I sold off a bunch of FOC stuff recently and made back barely half of what I originally paid for them at retail. Where the fuck are you looking?

>>5548057

Nice. I'm missing a Kup figure though.

>>5548057
All you need now is the Titan Wars Wheelie when he comes out and you're golden.

>>5548082

And he'd need a Grimlock.

And the other Dinobots.

And Cyclonus, Scourge, and Galvatron.

>>5548091
>other dinobots
Don't tease me that that anon!

So, the other Anon who in the other thread and this one (maybe? Didn't check) who had the stress marks in his CW helicopter limb-bots handfootgun ports, I checked mine on a whim.

Both Blades and Vortex both have stress marks. I have no idea if they'll eventually break or not, to be honest. I figure they would've broke already if they were going to break, but it's not like I'm an expert on how stress marks and shit work. Anyone else have stress marks on theirs? Is this a just-getting-noticed problem?

>>5548146
Yeah, my Blades has developed a hairline crack in the port (along the molding seam). Makes me scared to try putting it in combined mode again.

My Alpha Bravo seems okay so far, though, but I think I've used Blades in combined mode more often and for longer periods of time.

>>5548149

I don't think mine has cracked. If it has, I can't see it. But you could probably repair yours with some superglue, or maybe plastic glue if you have it.

I hope none of my combiners break. I love them so much.

>>5548153
>repair with superglue
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping I can do if the piece ends up breaking. Kind of afraid it won't hold up from the friction even after superglue, though.

>>5547539

You didn't see the last page of the 2nd Windblade series.

>>5548146
Mine are all fine, and I mess with them all the time. My Vortex has a barely visible stress mark on the side of the port but that's all. Par for course.

>>5548157
>reading IDW

I'd rather be totally illiterate

Dammit.

I am never gonna find Shockwave for < $20.

I would probably bite at $15 w/ free shipping from Amazon, but anything over that is rewarding a fucking scalper.

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>>5548166

>>5548166
boy you get around dont you

>>5548169
Patience, padawan.

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>>5548166

>wanting to be illiterate.

>>5547498
Nigga DUST YO SHELVES!!!!

>>5548169
hasbrotoyshop

Best Beast Wars Neo figures?

Hard mode: no leaders

>>5548188
Stampy

>>5548183
I wish I could get my hands on this guy for a good price. $40+ for a deluxe is too much.

>>5548208

Oh wow. I think I have two of them? One has a gimpy arm so I leave him in vehicle mode. Didn't realize he was so valuable now.

>>5548202
The alt mode looks neat. Would you recommend the figure overall though? I think I can get him for $15-20.

>>5548216
Eh. I really like him, but hes legends size but less articulation. 15 is fair enough but anything over is a bit much.

>>5548057
>>5548091
And don't forget a bigger Wreck-Gar.

>>5548222
RTS Wreck Far?

>>5548224

I love the look of that mold but it breaks so damn easy.

>>5548218
Cool, cool. Maybe I'll try to haggle then. Do you know if Heinlad is any good/what a decent price for him should be?

Speaking of price ranges, anyone know a fair price for a used green RTS Lugnut? I got one but he's just gathering dust..

>>5548057
It's Always Sunny in Cybertron
>Hot Charliemus
>Ultra Macnus
>Denner
>Sweet Cee
>FranKup

>>5547511
Someone has to recreate this with Gen Darkmount when Computron comes out.

>>5548225
I've had both normal release versions of the mold since they were out and nothing about them has broken.

>>5548306

I think they made a running change. I think it was something about the hands? or the handlebars?

It's been a few years.

>>5548308
Yeah I believe it was the handlebars, but I haven't had any issues and I've transformed them many many many times.

>>5548308
It's the handlebars. The nubs that lock them in place put too much stress on the plastic hinges when you move them.

You can easily fix these by slicing the nubs off with a blade.

>>5548308
As for the hands, the problem is that the melee weapon's shaft is not an even 5mm. So placing them on the hands stresses the fingers. Just be mindful on which part of the shaft can be held properly.

>>5547356
You can clearly see treads in the silhouette. I'm 90% sure the differences between their nosecones is just because of transformation. With takara's turret moved up on the double-hinge like it should be and their drill pegged onto either the hole or peg on top of the turret and pointing down.

>>5547348
Those are just Brawl's feet, they're just flipped down to height-match breakdown/lightspeed who also have the feet folded down..

>>5548402

It could be either. I'm more inclined to say it's Brawl until proven otherwise though.

Unless they REALLY want a seperate tank-type and REALLY remolded Rook into one. Which is possible, I mean, stranger things have happened. Plus Japan never got a 'pure' Rook type mold, they got only the fairly heavily altered Swindle one.

>>5548406
They got a straight rook repaint in the galvatronus box-set

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>>5548406
>Plus Japan never got a 'pure' Rook type mold
They in fact are, and with the original Rook head too.

That doesn't confirm which mold Nosecone's gonna be though.

>>5548406
They got one via Roller from the Grand Galvatron set

>>5547611
So you can slide it into his backback to emulate his shield generator.

>>5548412
>>5548414
>>5548415

Shit, I completely forgot about that! My mistake.

Either way, I'm interested in seeing what the Takara version will look like. I wish they'd stop fucking around and just show it though, Even just a 3D mockup or unpainted prototype would be fine, so I know where my money is going.

>>5548441
My guess is that we'll hear more about it close to Grand Galvatron's release.

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Bit the bullet and bought crazyfroglizardcar. Anything specific about him you guys want to know?

First impression is that he DOESN'T feel or look like previous cheap deployer toys. He can easily pass off as a Warrior-class figure.

>>5548523
>articulation
>paint vs sculpt detail
>does the gimmick get in the way at all

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>>5548526
You can still tell that he's a gimmick toy once you flip over and see the hollow bits. There's also no ball joints, only hinges and swivels. But due to the transformation, there's quite a lot of them. Each limb has at least 3 hinges to work with, including the tail.

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>>5548523
Is he compatible with actual Bakugan?

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It transforms by doing some origami with the limbs, then rotating the top body panel 180

>>5548526
>paint
You can tell from the pictures. It has moderate amount of paint apps.

>Sculpt
It has quite a lot of sculpted mechanical details even in the insides of the hollowed-out bits you see in >>5548530 similar to mainline toys.

>Gimmick
Doesn't seem to affect much. Other than looking a little silly with 2 flanges at its sides.

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>>5548539
Sorry I have no Bakugan toys. I can tell you that the diameter of the spherical minicon is 35 mm though.

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>>5548545
One shot with the family.

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>>5548545
Aw darn, 3mm more than these little suckers.

How fun is the deploy function?

>>5548553
Good looking group, anon. Now you just need a green bipedal Decepticon to complete the shot.

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The deployer gimmick ruins the back of the car mode with all the bits sticking out.

>>5548559
Maybe you could line the gripper with some foam tape or something? Make it slightly smaller?

As for the deploy function, it's probably more fun with something that rolls better. This Hammer minicon it comes with has bits jutting out.

>>5548523
he can actually close his mouth! hooray!

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>>5548218
Is he legends class? he seems bigger..

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>>5548582
Anon might have meant the current Legends class (ie Shockwave), which is analogous to the Basics of Beast Wars. The older Legends class (Soundwave) is currently called Legion.

>>5548186
I would so totally buy one from HTS if they got them in stock and they lasted more than 10 minutes when they do come in.

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UKfag here with a boner for mini-cons

How can I get my hands on as many mini-cons as possible for as little money as possible (bar building a time machine to the Armada era)? Targetmasters and PCC partners are also A-OK

>>5548631
Stalk the aftermarket for people offloading entire collections.

>>5548631
Dont forget Arms Microns, those things go for pretty cheap

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>>5548631
I assume you're looking for 5mm-compatible Mini-Cons, rather than the current RID variety (which you can amass pretty quickly if you bought ttwo or three a week).

Generations had Legends 2-packs two years ago, featuring Cyberverse Commander-size figures and cute Targetmaster partners; you may or may not still be able to find them on shelves.

The Deluxe range from Generations also brought us the Mini-Con Assault Team, a trio of Armada-style Minis that can plug into Powerlinx pegs as well as combine into pic related. Once again, shelf sightings may vary.

Otherwise, visit garage sales, flea markets, and toy conventions; you're bound to find Mini-Cons from 2013 all the way back to the Armada era for relatively cheap.

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>>5548523
>he DOESN'T feel or look like previous cheap deployer toys
Well damn, so he's not hollow then?

>>5548606
Again, have patience.
He will become more common as time goes on.

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>>5548692
He's still hollow here and there, you can tell from the rest of the pics. Vehicle's mode pretty tight though.

>>5548188
Sabreback, Dead End, Guiledart, Survive, Killer Punch, Archadis and Heinrad k?

>>5548692
If someone tell me this is a cheap bazaar chinese toy I will believe him

>>5548716
It is a cheap bizarre american toy.

>>5548638
>>5548648
>>5548680

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll keep a weather eye as I go around, and go into London the beginning of next month to check FP out

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Hi, I recently got skylynx and noticed the damn failed ratchets, I thank the anon who directed me in the last thread on what to do to fix.

The fix however took half an hour because I stuck his head back on backwards and the confusion of getting his skyreign pelvis on in the right direction...I then realized how retarded I became half way through from the frustration.

Anyway the point of this post is, if you want to know what a good size for the gap filler between the ratchets (as in what you put behind them) use what would roughly be the size of a gunpla runner name plate (as in the letter bar that identifies each set of parts from a gundam model_, I lack the ability to measure as a standard ruler can't do shit, but I just cut it so it was in line with the ratchet part and so it can fit in between where it...just sits inside.

Which is good, if takara makes their own skyreign now I won't need to rush up for it unlike the other UW combiners.

Otherwise feel free to ignore me, just thought I'd share my own cheap ass way of knowing what to use behind the ratchets and by how much rather than fuck around with plaplate and cutting it for size and thickness

someone have a screen collection of all the RID minicon toys?

In the second season of RID we will have a car/harpy and insect female Decepticons, I supose is too soon to have images of the figure toys

>>5548231

This is win.

>>5548751
>all the RID minicon toys?
This may help.
http://www.hasbro.com/common/documents/dad2d6781c4311ddbd0b0800200c9a66/5909819C50569047F5B60F610BC24118.pdf

>>5548767
Ooh, I didn't know they still made cross-sells for Transformers. Do they also have them for Generations?

>>5548751
Much of the S1 decepticon baddies don't have figures yet. Then again it'll be amazing if they did. RID is pretty much a MOTW show, churning out a new decepticon every week or so.

It's kinda amazing because coming up with new transformer assets was the chokepoint for Beast Wars' and TF:Prime's animation process, which was why they had to minimize the cast sizes.

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Safe to assume then that Takara will be taking a crack at Liokasier too? Possibly with lots of heavy retooling?

Also maybe Victorion?

>>5548774
>coming up with new transformer assets was the chokepoint for Beast Wars' and TF:Prime's animation process
I've always loved the model "retooling" those shows had to do to introduce new characters, especially Prime.

Tigatron was an existing upcoming redeco that they brought into the cast later, but for Prime, Hasbro already released a unique Magnus mold. Budget constraints on the show side made them do the more obvious Optimus redeco/retool, and that is just endlessly amusing.

>>5548783
No one knows how much retooling a UW Liokaiser is gonna get, but Victorion will definitely remain the same moldwise.

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>>5548786

Well at the very least they can fix the colors.

>>5548789
a brown or more rust color instead of red would have worked

>>5548786
>but Victorion will definitely remain the same moldwise.

Given what they did to Galvatronus. I suspect we'll get repaints of the individual limbs into different characters probably from G1.

>>5548789
Is this thing suposed to be "female"?

>>5548799
Would be funny if they are genderswapped back to guys.

>>5548802
Possible considering the shit that happened to airrazor from beast wars.

I just find it funny that they had no warning air razor and tigatron were gonna make out so they had to drop their shitty little bromance out of no where.

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>>5548803

>>5548806
We need translation of all Takara comics... who is the cute bat girl?

>>5548802
Easy, just change the head, this thing is only considered female because it have lips in the face, femformers? mote like lazyformers, at least I supose this will keep feminist pleased, they had their combiner female even if is a male with lips, at the end sounds like a win-win for Hasbro but bad for xenophile fans

>>5548810
>who is the cute bat girl
Nightscream.

From the wiki: As an extension of his gay characterization in Japan, the Transformers Legends manga depicts Nightscream as a crossdresser whom the male characters constantly mistake for female. Nightscream's odd nickname, "Bat Aunt Chama" (コウモリのおばちゃま Kōmori no Oba Chama) is a reference to Japanese film critic Kazuko Komori (小森和子 Komori Kazuko), whose nickname was Komori no Oba Chama (小森のおばちゃま).

>>5548810
>who is the cute bat girl?

>In the jovial Japanese dub of Beast Machines, most of the characters underwent major changes to ratchet up the satirical comedy. Nightscream was turned into a, well, flaming homosexual in the Japanese version. Like all characters in the dub, he had his own vocal tic: A habit of chanting and repeating "Fuu!", which was the catchphrase of Japanese comedian Masaki Sumitani when performing his "Hard Gay" persona (which was popular in the early '00s). Nightscream also became obsessed with fashion and style, making various comments like an effeminate, preening fashionista. His petname for Rattrap was "Aunty". Silverbolt spent more time with Nightscream than he did Blackarachnia, as they were both flyers, which often incited angry commentary from the jealous fembot (who derisively referred to them as the "homo-tachi" or "gay boys"). Silverbolt would constantly deny her accusations, insisting he wasn't gay. Stay classy, Japan.

>>5548799

They did that with a Voyager mold that was released without set limbs, Takara had to make it cohesive in some way to make a boxset. With Victorion it's a done set and it's not like they disregard IDW character uses. Better colors, or possibly different plastic choices (translucent), makes more sense for speculation. If they do it at all.

>>5548811
>>5548812
well, this sounds... lewd a "trap" transformer is not.. "common", we have a good toy/figure of this devious boybot?

>>5548823
no. now go fap to the comic

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>>5548823
He had one fuckhuge toy that no one really understood why it was so fuckhuge when the character was one of the smallest in the show.

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>>5548823

I like how "fuckhuge" has become a recurring descriptor.

>>5548834
>>5548838

thanks, at least his face is better in the toy than the show, he looks like a vampireformer version of Michael Jackson

>>5548783
>>5548786

They'll probably use the Takara Nosecone for Drillhorn and make him and Killbison different.

I'm interested to see how they'll do Leozack and Jallguar.

Definitely going to get Takara version for him.

>>5548801

yep. The fans voted for it.

>>5548811
>>5548812

I'm not a SJW by any means but Takara Nightscream makes me sick.

Is it so hard and wrong to wish we got Newtscream instead.

>>5548834
>>5548838

I don't get it either unless they were aiming for a life size Nightscream.

>>5548834
>>5548838
I had that for the longest time despite it breaking apart like sugar glass. Seriously, what were they thinking putting that much translucent plastic on a large figure?

>>5548851
No but its cool and basically glows under any light source its totally justified.

Honestly the ongoing tradition of making ghost starscreams out of translucent plastic is what turned me away from Grand Galvatron.

>>5548814
>With Victorion it's a done set and it's not like they disregard IDW character uses.

I would remind you that Offroad, Alpha Bravo and Rook all appeared in IDW too. And they are certainly not in Unite Warriors (unless you count Prime Breakdown, Vortex and Roller as substitutes). There is a limit to what they accept from Hasbro. But they are not above doing their own thing as we saw with Groove, Blast-Off and Galvatron.

Given that they have a "female" combiner from Hasbro. it's more likely they do homages to the g1 female transformers or something to sell it to their adult collector audience.

>>5548854
>g1 female transformers

We need elita 1, chromina and whoever else for the rest asap.

Just no arcee, they can't top that generations

>>5548854

what characters would they use?

>>5548834
>He had one fuckhuge toy that no one really understood why it was so fuckhuge when the character was one of the smallest in the show.

If you haven't noticed. BM basically tried to disregard everything from Hasbro to the point they wanted to make Nightscream a female character and wanted 100% organic transformers and wasted their budget on a plant transformer. I think from the size classes Hasbro probably wanted him and Jetstorm to be more prominent in the show. Given who was running the show, what they wanted was probably disregarded entirely.

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>>5548858
Elita 1, Chromia, Strika(The pic related that was apparently retconned into her), and potentially two random-ass background ladies.

>>5548866
you mean Botanica? I think we never had a platformer toy

>>5548889
I mean plaNtformer toy

>>5548866
BM also had a seemingly rushed and haphazard production. Rushed enough that the Beast Wars writers didn't even know a 4th season wasn't on the table until after they finished writing the last episode. Colors and designs changed rapidly from near finished promo art, and even the name changed from planning to production. For what its worth, the second year of toys tried to be way more show accurate; probably the first toyline to try and replicate the show models rather than vice versa.

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>>5548889
>Platformer toy

>>5548889
>>5548896
Hasbro had no intention of making her. But the story editors blew part of their budget on her. Which I think shows the misaligned priorities. It's more telling if you read the Botcon 1999 reports when the first episode of BM debuted there and what Hasbro THOUGHT BM was going to be about and how it pretty much was totally different from what they wanted (a premise closer to the transformer colonies plotline in Windblade or the discarded storyline in BH/Prime).

>>5548866
There's an interesting, albeit dubious, rumor that Jetstorm was meant to be a new body for Optimus. He has a few shared design ques with Optimal Optimus, namely the chest guns that become a rotating turret in vehicle mode, the vague Optimus headsculpt(antennae, faceplate split with a mouth),and wings on his upper arms like OpOp.

>>5548910
I remember that rumor (as well as the fact that the techno-organics were suppose to be bad guys created by Megatron). I just don't buy it. I think both sides (Hasbro and Mainframe) hammered out the organic vs technology theme early on and that there was actual agreement there. But Skir/Isenberg went their own way with making Primal more fanatical and all the material about balance while Hasbro wanted something else. If anything imo these rumors and their acceptance were a clear sign of the fan backlash towards BM and its themes (exemplified when parts of the fandom thought Skir and BM had overstepped with his anti gun message though that was more a result of Foxkids Standards and Practices at that time).

>>5548921
>Foxkids Standards and Practices at that time
Like how mikey in next mutation didn't even have his signature weapon.

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>>5548858
>>5548854
>>5548863
>tfw there won't be a Nightbird repaint of this

>>5548183
hey, that's cool

>>5548946
Not very agile.

>>5548946
And that's bad because?

>>5548953
Who said that it was a bad thing?

>>5548902
well, that was unexpected, good job anon

>>5548946
>wanting nightbird to be a tranny

Fuck off Kira

>>5548946
That's one bland KO-tier color scheme

>>5548783
>Also maybe Victorion?

Acree, Elita-1, Nightbird, and Road Rage as limbs, torso ????.

>>5548974
Optimus Prime.
Because Convoy needs Concubines

>>5548978

I can see it.

Harem Prime, master of bitches.

>>5548838
I have this toy and even though it isn't really that great, I love 'im. He's just so big and goofy and daft, and his bat mode is strangely cute.

That said I would love it if Iron Factory or someone gave us a cute to-scale lewd trap Nightscream.

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>>5548974
>torso ????
I think Flip Sides would look pretty nice with Onslaught's mold, but it would be a weird af choice.

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>>5548986
Give him a big hard cock and I'm sold.

>>5548879

Looks like Kup used to be a girl.

>>5548999
Her name was Cup.

>>5548999
What do you mean "used to?"

>>5547239
Megatronus looks like a generic decepticon.
Can't believe that this guy is supposed to be some big shot.

>>5548983
Don't you mean "BitchMaster?"

>>5549005
If the mass release version was the masked one, I'll be tempted to get a few to act as heavy-vehicons.

>>5548946
there's already a pretty good Nightbird though..

>>5549012
I believe tru's website has him.

Also it seems the exclusive one is more abundant than the normal retail version.

>>5549015
Kek

>>5549012
There's a masked version?

>>5548967
The post did. Mentioning that it won't happen at all shows lament on the poster's part.

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>>5549035

>>5549055
Sure, if that's how you wish to interpret it.

>>5549061
There's no other way to interpret "tfw this thing won't happen"

The mold would be a poor choice for a Nightbird, there's no indication it will happen so bringing it up at all is pointless unless you thought it was a good idea and wanted it.

>>5549080
That's how it would be interpreted without context.
People were discussing possible female G1 characters for Vicky, and I brought it up to say that if Nightbird won't happen then they might not go in that direction at all.
But I guess that message got lost, so pardon me for not being clear.

>>5547668
The only reason Groove can be sold in the box set is because it's a box set and doesn't have to fit into $15 budgetary constraints. Groove can't be released seperately.

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>>5547254
To me it depends a lot on how they do Scrounge.
If he's just a totally bland yellow Cosmos with the same head then I'm gonna go with Takara.

>>5549116
Personally it looks to me like the only reason Groove hasn't gotten a CW release is because Takara designed and produced him too far along into the line for Hasbro to be able to get him out before TR.

It might be the most reasonable excuse Betatron Scattershot has for existing: Hasbro had already locked in the last two waves of CW before Takara decided to make a new motorcycle Deluxe, which means that they hadn't counted on actually releasing a full Computron.

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>>5549121
Who started the trend of posing Cosmos's shoulders that way? The yellow detailing should have been enough of a clue as to how they should be oriented.

New old rhino ass thread
>>5547224

>>5548729
A bazaar is another word for a flea market anon.

>>5548750
>Anyway the point of this post is, if you want to know what a good size for the gap filler between the ratchets (as in what you put behind them) use what would roughly be the size of a gunpla runner name plate (as in the letter bar that identifies each set of parts from a gundam model_, I lack the ability to measure as a standard ruler can't do shit, but I just cut it so it was in line with the ratchet part and so it can fit in between where it...just sits inside.
I used fucking folded up paper. Why do you autists use shit like styrene or gunpla or whatever?!

>>5548900
>Rushed enough that the Beast Wars writers didn't even know a 4th season wasn't on the table until after they finished writing the last episode.
This was every season of BW. They actually thought Season 2 was going to be the end and said, fuck it, let's have Megatron destroy all of G1.

>>5549176
How bizarre.

>>5549202
They even went as far as to try and kill off Inferno too soon in a blaze of glory and just kinda retconned it.

So is BotCon done forever then?

And when are they gonna deep discount all their leftover stock from past cons and subscriptions?

>>5549128
Pretty sure there was an official photo with them mistransformed like that.

>>5548789
but no one can fix her male figure, she is definitely a TRANSformer

>>5549352
Funpubs, sure but hasbro is intent on keeping it