Transformers general: A Transformers can be transformed into

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>>5397397
>>5397401

>never noticing until now the hollow section of bumblebee's arms

OK, I'm going to be nice here, the hollowness SHOULDN'T be there but look at how big he is, a flip panel might make the fit a bit hard, and ...was there any tf's that had sliding fist in the last few years?

If bee was a tad bigger they could of fixed that, damn mp10 scaling man.

Seriously the only transformer I have that had sliding fist was g1 silverbolt, can't remember anything else.

>>5397408

Being an mp sorta justifys his displeasure, they have a bigger budget to work with, I can only see bee's size being his lame excuse.

Not buying it over the gaps in the arms alone is lame but...that's one choice, no one has the right to say who can spend money on what, we can't apologize on toy makers who fuck up, no matter how big or small.

Leave that for the fanboys who'd buy 10 and create shitty customs with

>>5397403
I wonder how those custom figure making guys feel when someone, 3rd party or official, releases the character that they were making. Like say all of the people who made their own combiner. Do you try and sell your mess of a project? Or do you keep it?

>>5397425
the hollowness being there or not being there doesnt effect how good it is as a toy to me. it's tiny as fuck and it's a good toy, who cares.

it's just a toy
it's just a toy
it's just a toy

>>5397428
i guess they try and sell it still?

There was a bigger market for it before, but people are still making shitty partsforming Unicron Crotch combiners

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>>5397425
>MUH HOLLOW

HOLY SHIT FUCK OFF!

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>>5397403
lets talk about SOEMTHING WE LIKE

How about Cybertron Optimus? isnt he cool?

What would an MP Cyb Prime improve on the original? i think the proportions could use some work

>>5397434
>>5397452
It's a Masterpiece figure, autismos. Not everyone shares your low standards for high-dollar collector toys.

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>>5397434
So...I take it you're a fanboy who'd defend not blast off despite being a lazy repaint, generations galvatron for being a shrunken version of what he was supposed to be, or rid2015 strongarm for missing the paint apps to match its show appearance?

I'm sorry, look I believe in constructive criticism, without feedback what's going to stop hasbro from giving us $50 legion class toys touted as masterpiece micro masters or something silly like that?

The point of threads like these is discussion, to brainstorm, critique and perhaps give suggestions and advice over a toy, I can give praise to just about anything in the line, fuck I got all variations of the rid2015 optimus mold for fucks sake, but I am aware of the faults, and I and many others will voice them, it may not solve the problem, but that is human nature.

Its how americans keep their gun power, by voicing their opinions, if we the consumer would get off our collective ass we can have spring loaded missiles as a main stay and bee would have least a cover for his arms.

>>5397452
Wow, such butt hurt, I thought I was in 4chan not some fan club, surely you have a problem with a toy, anytoy?

And I was actually partially defending the hollowness too , I forgave bee's because of his size, a shame really, this thread is already going in terrible places

>>5397458
...I am in total acceptance of this concept, I'd pay in bulk for a perfected cybertron optimus mp

>>5397434
>>5397452
Don't waste your time trying to understand the whiners, there will be always complains about molding, paint or the gimmick.not being the same as in the original toy.

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>>5397403
I'm going to post cool toys, how about that? i'd love it if we could just talk about cool toys

>>5397473
I love toy Tankor so much.
I wish there was just like, a leader or supreme size version of that toy, I'd eat it up so bad

>>5397473
I had the twopack with him and the mini-Obsidian (I'm assuming that's the same tankor).

I liked the eyescan gimmick in tank mode.

>>5397434
>>5397452
>>5397458
>>5397473
>GUYS STOP POINTING OUT LOW QUALITY!!

>>5397425
>Seriously the only transformer I have that had sliding fist was g1 silverbolt, can't remember anything else.

There were quite a few during UC and some CHUG stuff.

>>5397425
>>5397547

There are several sliding fist guys (Gen Scourge comes to mind) There are evenmore with swivel fists, ie the hand is on a pin swivel that spins, you can lift a panel, spin out the fist, often spinning back in some other accoutremont, like terradive's thrusters, then snap the panel back into place.

Both of those are ages old technology perfect to hide an unsightly gap that has to exist, but abandoned to keep parts count down.

Hell, if they'd have made any effort at all, like having his arm orient so the gap was on the bottom and partly hidden by that panel on the armature that hangs out there anyway, I wouldn't say a word about it. But they just don't seem to care anymore about anything but minimizing production costs anymore, even on the showpiece toys like the MPs

>>5397473
I really wish he looked like that on the show. It was a badass design, and 10x better than what we saw on TV.

The toy itself is still leagues better than the Generations Tankor we got; even if it's not screen accurate.

One of my top 3 Tank-formers to this day. The other two being RotF Bludgeon, and CW Megatron.

>>5397566
>Moving jaw
>Cyclops eyes in robot and vehicle mode that move IN UNISON
>Spinning buzzsaws on his forearms so he can give devastating lariats

Toy Tankor is the man

>>5397467
>Don't waste your time trying to understand the whiners, there will be always complains about not getting the food they ordered, paint chips in the meat, or rat droppings baked into the buns.

>>5397566
>>5397569
Yeah it's all fun and games till he can't lift his arms at all due to the weight.

>>5397574
>comparing things that could potentially poison you to lifeless pieces of plastic.
Are you well?

>>5397579
Mine has never had that problem and I've had it for over 10 years. The legs are loose as hell though...

Either way, both my problem and your problem can be easily solved with a little Future or nail polish.

>>5397473
>>5397475

Tankor was Rhinox in a new body, right? Who were the other Vehicons?

>>5397622
Silverbolt in jetstorm and waspinator in thrust. The stupid part was them thinking the flying guy wasn't their flying guy and the bug looking guy wasn't the bug.

I think the rest didn't have preused sparks.

>>5397622
Thrust was Waspinator, Jetstorm was Silverbolt, Obsidian and Strika were themselves.

>>5397464

It's just so tiresome to hear sometimes.

>>5397622

Black Arachnia was convinced Thrust was Silverbolt but when she released him it was Waspinator.

Turned out Jetstorm was Silverbolt, and then he turned completely back into a bird.

I don't think Obsidian and Strika were anything except themselves.

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I wish they'd bring back this color scheme for Prime. That deep red, charcoal gray, and gold chrome. Shame the mold is mediocre at best.

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>>5397642
They toy kinda spoiled Thrust/Waspinator huh.

>>5397659
>Shame the mold is mediocre at best
Sorry man, but it's shit even on it's best day.

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Found Skywarp at Walmart. Why does Skywarp make any plane mold look so much better? The Leader looks dope as hell in this color scheme.

>>5397642
I always thought it was cool that Obsidian and Strika were autobots before they were vehicon-ized, with their Botcon figures paying attention to that. The black autobot symbol with the lightning bolt through it is awesome and it needs to be used more.

What doesn't make sense is how they would have their vehicon heads even if they aren't vehicons. Wouldn't it make sense that they would have something more typically transformers-y?

>>5397622
Thrust (bike) is waspinator
Jetstorm (jet) is Silverbolt
Obsidian and Strika are themselves.

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Just leaving this here.

So Soundwave is checked off the list but we already knew that and people who is pissed about it are dumb cause we knew he was coming and to that anon that gets mad every time this gets posted, better kill yourself cause it's not yet over.

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OH SHIT

>>5397556
>but abandoned to keep parts count down.

Are you sure that is why there were abandoned?

Are you sure you didn't just pull that out of your ass.

>>5397704
They didn't even bother to replace blaster's gun...

>>5397704
The deck chest sticking out on normal Soundwave bothers me, certainly they could have made it flat? Then again I don't know the mechanics of it. It'll be a nice Soundblaster though.

>>5397704
I was going to be all "Woah! Didn't see that coming!"
Then I realized this thread is cynical enough already.

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>>5397705
>>5397704
holy shit I hate it

>>5397704
>>5397705
>>5397708


Not even surprising.

>>5397704
> Time to sell my Tak MP because Hasbro is killing it with this Soundwave
> TFW2000 poster

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>>5397705
This is the dumbest idea.

It was dumb when Power Rangers Zeo did it and it's just as dumb now.

>>5397708
Is your name Soundblaster, little guy?

>>5397721
>implying that baseformers is a new thing

>>5397708
Are these Headmasters supposed to be Humans again, or is this going to be a "little robot version of the robot operates effectively operates a big mech suit version of themselves"

>>5397704
>Play button on the crotch
Lewd.

>>5397723
Oh yeah and there was the pieces that can turn into their mini vehicles as well. Most of them gets it from what I remember except the deluxe figures or was it their weapon for the deluxe figs.

>>5397711
Soundwave has had enough bullying over his flat chest. Let him be busty for once.

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>>5397729
>for once

>>5397727
>>5397723
>>5397718
>>5397708
>>5397705
>>5397704
Better leak all of the other pictures as well now since this are unreleased pictures of the toy still.

>>5397733
Didn;t they come from Facebook or something?

>>5397721
I dunno, I kinda like it. It's very 90s playset. It'd fit in well with a group of Dinoriders toys. Dinoriders vs Transformers?

>>5397718
NOPE.

I could have lived with everything else but THAT

It doesn't even have speakers to look like a boombox for fucks sake

>>5397704
The visor looks a lot better than that other pic.

>>5397718
But this looks bland as fuck.

>>5397741
This is why it took so long for a new Soundwave that had an audio device altmode.

>the first Soundwave since Titanium
>The first Classics/Generations G1 Soundwave ever
>it's this

this is bad comedy

>>5397750
The MP pretty much is "Microcassette player Soundwave" idealized. Better to try different direction.

>>5397750
>The first Soundwave since Titanium
What?

>>5397704
>>5397705
>>5397708
>>5397718
>>5397723
>>5397727
Looks like I'll keep my FoC Soundwave, his gimmick is better to.

>>5397750
>first classics G1 Soundwave ever
>not counting music label Soundwave
>not counting MP Soundwave

If you don't like this one, you have options, pretty good options. That being said I'd love a classics styled Soundwave that turned into a nice chunky van tricked out with speakers.

>>5397706
>>5397706
No, I extrapolated. Which is using existing facts and drawing a logical conclusion from them.

Fact: More parts in a mold means more tooling, more machining, more QC checks, and hence, more money.

Fact: Both the pin swivel, sliding reveal, and panel covered flip out hands require more parts than just a hand that folds out from an uncovered gap.

Fact: Despite the fact that either a swivel reveal or slide out hand would have hidden the gap in the arm and made it look better, neither was used.

From this I drew the logical conclusion that they were skipped in favour of a more cost effective transformation, regardless of the cost on the robot mode's appearance.

That may not be the case. Maybe the truth is they couldn't fit a gimmick on arms that size (depsite clearly having done so on plenty of bots before it, and not at MP pricepoints). Maybe they were afraid it would compromise the transformation or alt mode. Maybe the guy who designed Bee has a boner for gappy forearms.

It is a mystery.

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>>5397754
There hasn't been a G1 or Classics Soundwave since Titanium.

>>5397753
>different directions
This isn't a different direction. It's shit. There are loads of things they could have done as a Reedun Soundwave. They could have done the IDW truck one, or this, or some kind of modern boombox, or anything. This is Blaster with his speakers scraped off.

>>5397759
No, I don't consider Masterpiece part of Classics or Generations. Does anybody?

>>5397766
Synthesizer Soundwave?

>>5397723
People's keep saying this is an iPad transformer but nothing points that it can transform.

>>5397766
>This is Blaster with his speakers scraped off.
Which is hilarious considering the headmaster still has the speakers on the legs.

>>5397766
>"Hello children I have arrived home early".

>>5397772
Maybe it goes from "tank" to data storage thingy with a screen

>>5397704
This makes me really want a Legends Soundwave to go with the rest of the miniature Decepticons.

>>5397789
A legends Soundwave would go pretty great, honestly. Especially considering now we have most of the other major Decepticon players.

>>5397768
See, a Synth might be cool. Keys down his legs, visualizer on his chest...

Or a Satellite, like in the Bay movies. Or a News Van, or a blocky FBI van.

>>5397789
I've been wanting one since the first wave with Megs and Starscream.

>>5397797
Or a stealth plane.
Or a bat/crocodile.

>>5397789
>>5397795
What should a Legends Soundwave turn into? With the Titans Return cassete bots being a thing, it's easy for him to be a music player again, but is that all he should be?

>>5397800
Those two are fine designs, but they aren't very Classics-ish.

Although a redeco of Skullcruncher with that Headmasters head would be cool.

>>5397804
Hell, I'd be fine if they redecoed Rewind into Soundwave as long as they gave him the proper weapons.

>>5397804
>Soundwave, deploy! Operation: Double team!

>>5397811
>Soundwave with Soundwave Headmaster deploys Soundwave from his chest

>>5397817
>Soundwave has a little Soundwave van and Soundwave planes hanging out in his base mode.

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>>5397817
>>5397826

>>5397403
Thanks, man. I've been waiting for this edition

>>5397830
It is okay, some of those are just similar looking guys from other universes.

>>5397718
Im keeping my music label soundwave.

>>5397878
It's hard to outdo him really. He could go for size enlargement, but other than that he's pretty much what you'd want from a CHUG Soundwave who turns into a ghetto blaster.

>>5397817
I'll take it.

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>>5397817
>>5397826

>>5397725
Maybe that's why this is Titan Wars. The Head master is the actual character and the rest of the toy is a giant mech they had to create to fight Titans/each other.

I just want to see a picture of the new Weirdwolf..

Remember when the classics line actualy tried to do modern updates of classic characters instead of this shitty Turd-Party tier g1 guys with kneeds direction they have now?

>>5397929
Remember how one guy got so butthurt about that modern update part that he started calling it "REEDUN" and tried to make it a thing?

>>5397929
Not really. There was the time they changed them up to be more realistic and then the time it was just an assortment of guys.

>>5397929

Those "Turd party" guys improve existing figures you know. Stuff like MPs, or the CW combiners. (Articulated hands on a figure like Superion are a god send)

Of course, there are some downsides too. (Price for one)

>>5397942

The first wave of classics was already aiming for modernization with new sleeker takes on the original designs.

Shit like the Blurr and the Soundwave we saw today just screams uncreative, stiff and boring.

>>5397929
I liked the the original classics line. Bullet train Astrotrain, wind vein Prime, skinny Mirage etc.

>>5397943

Not talking about the actual quality or work they do, just that alot of time they seem to be satisfied with doing bland sculpts that reek of nostalgia but not much else, while until now the classics line actualy made an effort of updating the old instead of boringly reviving it.

The few times the new design staff bothered with updating was when they just copied the IDW design instead of the G1, these guys are just flat out creatively bankrupt.

>>5397704

Meh.

This is fine. He'll go good with my Leader Megatron.

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PE hands can hold Shockwave, just gotta angle the thumb to wedge him as flat as he can go. He'll always be at an odd angle though, but you can cover that up a bit by posing it well.

>>5397989
or you can cut off the useless square peg

>>5398008

I'd rather not damage my toy.

>>5397895
Yeah. His minions might not turn into cassettes but there are updated versions of them too that are awesome. And soon a ravage hopefully. The one that came with hound is the one i currently have.

>>5397704
Don't care about the base because that's a forced in idea, but I'm liking the bot mode.

>>5397704
Too big, if he and blaster were voyager sized, it'd work better for me, but the fact they're headmasters just kills it altogether.

>>5398039
>if he and blaster were voyager sized, it'd work better for me
Same. I'll probably still buy Soundwave because I need one, and the FoC is too expensive now, but I'd much rather be getting voyagers without the gimmicks.

>>5397739
Soundwave wasn't a boom box, that was blaster.

>>5398070
FoC Soundwave is not an acceptable toy, at all.

>>5398093
Yes, and now Soundwave is a Boombox too.

>>5398111
Why not? I really enjoy mine.

>>5397704

Well who didn't see that coming?

Still hype though.

>>5398119
How dare you enjoy things! :^)

>>5397927

Is that a thing??!?

>>5398119
I enjoy mine too. Is that illegal?

I went to Target and TRU (after Target didn't have what I was looking for, TRU did) today to pickup a CW toy for future modification purposes

Target had NO Generations toys aside from Blackjack and two Skywarps, TRU only had 5 CW deluxes from the Prime combiner. Aside from this, they were overstuffed with RID toys.

I don't follow RID, are the toys not selling?

>>5398132

TRU has exclusive rights to a bunch of RiD redecos, so they're pushing them extra hard.

>>5398127
It was in the podcast leaks, and so far they've been right on the money.

>>5398146

Then all we need is Mindwipe and I can die happy...

>>5398111
Why should we care about your opinion?

>>5397704
>fairly new to the hobby and still have no Soundwave.
>current options are bricks or cars (or MP, but-)
>in price range
>"cassetes" incoming
>ankle articulation and all

I'm OK with this

>>5398111
What's so bad about FoC Soundwave?

>The MP soundwave is really good.
>This thing with an inexplicable base mode that scales with nothing.

Why? For who?

>>5398191
People that want a leader-class Soundwave to got with Leader Megatron and Starscream that came out last year

Pretty hyped we're getting a proper CHUG Soundwave, even if he's a bit big. He's my favorite character. I know some people were bitching about him looking too bulky, but that's the definitive look of G1 Soundwave for me. Maybe it's just because of the old toy.

I think the reason the eyes looked so weird on the test shot of Leader Soundwave is because the helmet wasn't fully pushed down. It looks fine in the cad render, so I suspect that the in hand pic is mistransformed.

>>5398176
Wonky arms and diaper crotch. And the data disks (excluding maybe the winged ones) are shit.

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>>5398111

Opinion Ejected...

>>5397878
>>5397895
>>5398021

It's pretty much THE Classics Soundwave, until Unique Toys remolds their Blaster. Who is pretty much THE Classics Blaster.

>>5398009
>I'd rather keep a useless and intrusive peg that serves no purpose

And damage the toy? So what? These are toys, not cars. Nobody cares you if cut a piece off.

>>5398114
That's a cop out.

>>5397704
>people will defend this and proclaim it "best ever!"
Sad times.

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>>5397704
>people crave a G1 style Soundwave for years
>we finally get one
>it's stupidly oversized, is a Headmaster and doesn't even do tapes at its size

>people will hail this as the Soundwave

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>>5398231
>>5398240
So did everyone just go stupid and forgot this guy was on the market for over 2 years
I feel you are being drama babies over nothing.

>>5398245

> On the market for two years.

Nigga he was on the market for like 2 minutes and they produced like 3 of them.


But hey, there is always the creamcicle version!

>>5398245
Poorfags couldn't afford him and the big mean scalpers took them all from their Toys R Us' so they pretend it doesn't exist.

>>5398245
I already have an MP Soundwave, moron. That's not what the complaint is about.

>>5398248
if Americucks jsut preordered shit like Japan they'd secure their orders and not have to roam around like on some soulless venture lurking through stores

>>5398252
That isn't what I heard on /v/ about pre-orders

>>5398173

I'm with you man. This is great news. Though if you like the FoC Soundwave, you can still find him pretty cheap if you scour eBay.

>>5398224

I do. I just don't want to do it.

>>5398240

Has anyone said the tapes won't fit inside the chest? Or is there something I'm missing here. Leaders are pretty damn big compared to Legends, and the tape dudes are gonna be Legends.

>>5398252
Nip version cost like 3x as much as the Hasbro version

>>5398245
MPs are not toys. People have asked for a Soundwave toy that will fit with their Classics collection.

I have an MP Soundwave and I still want a decent fucking Generations Soundwave.

>>5398270

And it doesn't include the tapes

> InB4 LEL Poorfags

>>5398268
They fit not inside the chest but inside the whole body, as they go in vertically.

>>5398281

Huh, thats weird. Will they still be visible inside the chest then, or do they just sort of slot in and you can't see them?

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>>5398268
He can store the "tapes" the tank here >>5397723
is the tape included. I seriouslly can't understand whats the problem with him besides the size and reused weapon, he looks great in robot mode, the altmode is ok, it looks bland, but I had a boombox with speakers like that back in the 90s and headmasters are awesom, diferent strokes for diferent folks I guess.

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>>5398246
>>5398248
>>5398251

But how does that translate that boom box here will be seen as the best?

Also he was floating at MSRB online for the longest time, Really right up until Soundblaster was made he was staying at that $150 range.

>>5398272
>MPs are not toys.
>People have asked for a Soundwave toy that will fit with their Classics collection.
you anons are unbelievable

>>5398298

Hold up, can he store G1 tapes as well? That's really all I care about.

>>5398298

Oh, thats cool. Wonder if the Legends "tapes" can fit in there. Guess we won't know until someone can get their hands on a mold of him or Blaster and some of the "tapes".

I think this Soundwave is pretty good looking overall, definitely going to pick him up. I wonder if he and Blaster are going to come in the same wave? Did they release the Megatron's (Megatroni?) or Magnus/any of the Seekers in the same wave? Or do they usually only drop 1 Leader per wave or something?

>>5398305
yes but they will be smaller so there will be size issues.

>>5398298
>>5398293
Soundwave has more translucent part than Blaster, so somewhat visible.
https://youtu.be/7GYk75d0-J8?t=69

>>5398307
First wave of Titan Wars Leaders is Blaster and Powermaster Prime.

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>>5398305
Pretty sure he can, the new "tapes" are a bit bigger and wider than the G1, right now the only avaliable TR tape is Buzzaw, get him and compare it to your G1 tapes.

>>5398307
The legends tapes were designed for it.

>>5398322
What guns are those? CW Fireflight's?

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>>5398332
Yes.

Waiting for Takara version with proper paint apps and red visor

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>>5397704

This is great.

>>5398322
>>5398332
>>5398340
Looking good. Can it be balanced on a leader class arm or is it too big?

>>5398320

Aww, shit. Not planning on nabbing PM Prime because I never liked the G1 toy and the new one is just, to me, a bigger Prime in the wrong color scheme. Well, maybe at some point. Blaster I'll probably get. But it'll be somewhat disappointing to have to wait to get his rival.

>>5398322

Thats great to know. Can't wait for Eject/Rewind and Rumble/Frenzy. They look like they'll be decent Legends figs, unlike the bird mold.

>>5398343
Depends on what you want, G1 toy accuracy=Hasbro, cartoon accuracy=Takara.

>>5398351
Can't say, mine is still on the mail and I could't find any picture online, but is should.

>>5397732
That's the one I have. Based on the look of the new onw, I suspect I'm better off with the version I have. I assume he uses the Soundblaster chest so he can hold two tapes at once, since he comes with both Ravage and Laserbeak.

>>5398248
Well, yeah. Isn't that a rational decision?

>>5398384
Beats me. Found mine at a TRU and I had a coupin.

>go to target today
>there's like 6 motormasters
lel

Is Legends Groove the new big shelfwarmer or something? I've seen him on shelves more than any other Legends figure.

>>5398393
At least your country got Motormaster. Though I did get a Wave 4 fixed hips version from waiting to see if it would come to New Zealand, then buying from Amazon when it became apparent he wasn't going to.

>>5398396
Yeah, all the smart people bought the proper one from Takara.

>>5398396
Its the seekers and warpath for me.

>>5398132

TRU employee here, we've gotten horrible CW stock for months now. We get boxes and boxes of RID garbage and if we have more than 4 units of CW stuff in the shipment then we're lucky. Guess stores are so busy stocking star wars stuff they don't have interest in buying stock of TF stuff thats not for kids.

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>>5398300
Nothing unbeleivable about wanting a Soundwave to go with Classics. MP is perfect, but it's not for Classics. It's a whole different game with that figure. I took his MP tapes and gave him to this Soundwave for my Classics collection.

Legends scaled rook when....?

>>5398464
Could be a redeco or remold of Flak from DOTM, or HFTD Breacher if we're talking modern Legends.

>>5398427
where are those figures from?

>>5398480
One is Music Label Soundwave, I think the other is Unique Toys Blaster.

>>5398535
Why does Blaster look like Soundwave and Soundwave looks like Blaster?

>>5398555
Haven't they always looked pretty similar? Even though the g1 toys weren't retools, the transformations were pretty similar, right?

>>5398464
Why do you want a forced nobody in a novelty poorfag scale?

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Aye Lmao, could it be true or a digibash?

>>5398600
Nigga that's a really obvious digibash. Anyway, Hasbro's Liokaiser has a black helmet.

Friend of mine told me his favorite TF was 'the one that turned into a tractor'. Anyone know what he's talking about?

>>5398604
Scrapper, maybe? He's technically a tractor, right?

>>5398603
but i want to believe

>>5398600
I kinda want the torso, I was upset with it not being able to slpit apart like the original sky lynx but this repaint makes it look worth it..

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>>5398604
Thunderhoof? theres not many tractor tfs, unless he meant a bulldozer, ask him what color.

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>>5398604
Thunderhoof

>>5398618
"mainly orange with a yellow head and hands"

>>5397739
I can understand not liking this mold, but you don't see the fucking speakers that take up a large portion of the front?

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>>5398272
MPs not toys. Are you 8yrs old anon? Do you still make the sound when you transforms your TFs? Why would you need another Soundwave when you have been given perfection already? What, your ham hands can't handle MP soundwave so you need a cheap alternative made to be played by 4 yrs old?

>>5398629
Scoop?

>>5398643
Looked that one up and showed him, it is indeed scoop (although he doesn't transform into a tractor).

>>5397704
I like the botmode apart from the visor being just a bit too big, a nit pick of course.

But as alt mode no, it looks like my old stereo.

I bet its just as shit too.

I hate to say this but my year of the GOAT soundwave still trumps this

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>>5398642
>Do you still make the sound when you transforms your TFs?
C'mon, anon, you know that's fun.

>>5398645
He recently got a modernized "Generations" toy if that interests your friend at all. He didn't sell super well so you can get him pretty cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Combiner-Superion-Collection/dp/B011MIX29E/

>>5398711
Is there any word as to if takara are doing a g2 set too?

>>5398712
Was G2 even a thing in Japan?

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>>5398711
Hasbrooooooo

>>5398719
Yes, but I'm not sure they acknowledged the recolors from old figures, since those figures aren't sporting their G2 colors after the events of G2 (and they weren't present when the story was happening either).

>>5398719
no. they won't. they're make more weird G1 combiners like a proper Leo Kaizer combiner with two deluxes that make a torso mode

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>>5398646
Agreed. Both he and Blaster look ridiculous in alt mode, like the equivalent of having tiny head on a gigantic body. There had to be a way for them to end up with better proportions.

>>5398721
>air raid
But that's skydive, anon.

I think I'll be skipping out on this set. I have no nostalgia for these decos and:
>fireflight looks almost the same
>skydive and air raid have far too similar decos
>slingshot's gold color is god awful

Kinda like Silverbolt, though. Reminds me of Smokescreen's colors.

>>5398711
just bought, did I make a mistake ??

>>5398732
How much did it go for? It's unavailable now.

>>5398735
$100.

>>5398736
If you get free shipping, then that's pretty good.

>>5398749
good. wish P.E released a recolored set..

>>5398735
>>5398736
Which is a pretty good price, considering. At the least, it's the same as getting the individual figures at retail.

I don't have any memory of G2, so it doesn't make me want them(aside from the awsome legends recolors) but I might pony up for a G2 Bruticus to use as Ruination or something...

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I really like the gold limb, but the rest of this set isn't gaudy enough to scratch my G2 pleasure centers. Could have grabbed one a little while ago, but for $100 it's hard to justify. Sold out now anyway on Amazon now.

I'm happy spending the 100. I love G2. The all gold limb will look awesome. And superion is the best CW Combiner imo, so it's a win win.

>>5398778
>tfw you love G2 Superion's colors
>tfw it sold out immediately
>tfw it's probably been scalped to hell and back
welp, looks like I'm gonna have to wait until spring to get it at a decent price.

>>5398795
The colors look amazing on the boxart but once the toys are a hue or two too bright and playschooly. Instead of feeling like Americabot who's right hand glows with an awesome power, he feels more like Fruitcus.

>Blackarachnia has tits
>Nightbird has ass
>Slipstream has ___

>>5398778
> but for $100 it's hard to justify
Really? Four deluxes, a voyager, and a legends size for $100 is hard? That's a pretty damn good price.

>>5398809
That's what G2 is all about. Gaudy but adventurous color schemes, if G2 had a new animated series, it'd have a theme composed by Perturbator.

>>5398812
Face?

>>5398813

It's weird they're not giving a discount with the box set. Everything in the box adds up to about $100 if you bought it seperate (before tax). They could've set the price at $80-90.

>>5398813
60+25+10=95.

>>5398831
Wow, how could hasbro do this?

Now no one's gonna be able to afford the set, they shouldn't have marked it up so high

>>5398835
It's not a bad price, it's just that the whole point of a box set is getting it cheaper than buying the figures individually, and getting the whole team at once. This one only gives you the whole team conveniently, which isn't bad, but its not great either.

>>5398842
>whole point of a box set
Not really. Its to get them all together.

>>5398842
Yeah, but it's only 5 dollars more, also it's a limited version set, so there's that too

>>5398831
Some places have deluxes >$15 in which case it becomes a very fair deal.

The main issue is $100 for another Superion after most people already have the CW/UW version.

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>>5398898
>>5398904
I'm assuming we're looking at customs?

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>>5398911

>>5398911
Quick search says it's turd party Unique Toys.

>>5398911
Unique Toys Warlord/Beasticons.

>>5398917
Oh, mods

>>5398939
No, i just deleted the pic, and reposted.

>>5398917
Oh okay. Someone trying to make us think there's a CW predaking. Gotcha.

>>5398943
Oh, ok

Thought it might've been deleted for being a turd

>>5398813
It's just personal taste for me. Like I said, most of them aren't gaudy enough to be worth the price. If I'm dropping $100 on a mold I already own for a G2 aesthetic, it better be the G2-iest G2 toy to ever G2.

That said, G2 Menasor is a lot more tempting. I hope Perfect Effect is planning on making their hand/feet sets in more colors. This combiner train is barely half over it seems.

>>5398898
>>5398894
>>5398904

Too bad Warlord has fucked up legs from what I've been reading. I actually wanted him over Feral Rex since he fits in way better with Hasbro stuff AND he's like half the price. But I'd rather pay $600 and get something that works than pay $300 and get something that can't stand up right.

>>5399050
He stands up fine, the thighs are just disassembled. Swapping/trading sides fixes it.

http://strawpoll.me/6507989

Reposting for anyone who missed it

I wanna get into the combiner wars but it seems superion is too out of date to collect. Anyone know when the next wave with skylynx will be released? I know about the amazon thingie but I don't like the colors.

>>5398904
The limb bots look decet enough, but Razorclaw is just... meh. He looks too stumpy. Is it just the camera angle?

>>5399105
Buy UW Superion instead. It's cheaper than CW is right now.

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I figured some of you guys would take an interest in this. Hasbro is trying to hire a new Transformers designer. So, if you think you can do better, now is your chance.

>>5399105

Buy UW Superion. You can find him around $120-140, which now is a lot fucking cheaper than buying the CW version, and even if CW wasn't scalped to Hell and back, would still only be a bit more than buying CW Superion pre-scalperfest.

>>5399109
Honestly, Razorclaw IS pretty derpy. The weakest figure of the set, but makes a mean torso.

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>>5398248
there's some fuck from canada up on ebay who is selling hte MP TRU soundwave after 2 years, with an undisclosed amount and his listing photo is literally a ROOM filled with soundwaves at over 200% markup from retail.

that thing got scalped like no one's business. the ONLY reason I got mine was I was walking in getting my nephew something from power rangers and I saw an employee bring it back from the stockroom to the shelf and just picked it up.

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>>5399121
That he does.

>>5399129
Bad form, fellow Canadian. Bad form.

>>5399129

I actually got lucky and snagged one off the TRU canadian website for the short time they were available there.

I missed the first shipment orders, and then the second time they put him up I got one. I dont think he ever went up on the website again after that.

>>5398427

Nah, MP Soundwave would be great for classics.

The same way MP Grimlock is a great Classics Grimlick. Yeah, he is fuckhuge but he is GRIMLOCK

>>5399171
I exclusively display MP Grimlock with Generations Kup.

>>5398248
>FUCKING POORFAGS!

is this the go-to boogeyman for everything on /toy/?

Come the fuck on, are you really pretending MP Soundwave wasn't scalped to shit?

>>5397499
It was a repaint, but otherwise the same. I got that two-pack, too...in fact, I've had a bit of a joke mini-collection going because of it.

The "Universe" backstory says that version of Obsidian actually overthrew BW/BM Megs and ruled Cybertron (until Unicron grabbed him)...then the "Shadow Blade" repaint of TFA Voyager Megs came out in the same colors as Universe Obsidian.

Then so did WFC Darkside Megatron. Then so did Thrilling 30 IDW Megatron.

I've got them all standing on my toy shelf as my Obsidian collection, sort of a "Nemesis Megatron" group to go along with my Nemesis Prime collection.

>>5399179

Anon, if you were a "true fan" you would check the stores as soon as they open each day and have all of the major retailers on auto refresh.

>>5398600
Drillhorn isnt even purple, he's blue

>>5398304
Upvoted, my good man! *tips fedora*

>>5399179
I lucked out on my MP Soundwave, TRU fucked up a transaction so hard that I complained to corporate and their district manager held an MP Soundwave for me and discounted it down to $40. Thanks for fucking up so hard I got a cheap Soundwave!

>>5399234
Please, please, do us all a favor and
SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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>>5399234
>Things NEETs do
>Something to brag about as a qualification of being a "true fan"

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When does the next wave of combiner wars come out?

>>5399446

No one can even find this wave's stuff in stores reliably yet other than some of the limbs.

I'm tempted to get Vicky when she comes out, try to persuade me otherwise. I think she wouldn't look that bad if you used the copters as arms and rotated the torso bits so they were upward like with Bruticus. Still though that color scheme is so tacky, why do I dislike that color scheme when I love g2 stuff?

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>>5399234

>Anon, if you were a "true fan" you would check the stores as soon as they open each day and have all of the major retailers on auto refresh.

Haha. When the bigass new Metroplex first came out I was coming back home from a plane trip and stopped at a TRU on the drive home because why the fuck not.

They had 2 Metroplexs and I grabbed one, and right at the cashier the girl asks if Im the guy thats been calling the store every morning asking if they have Metroplex yet. I fucking laughed and told her I just got off a plane from the other side of the country and thought id stop in to look around. Didnt even know these things were out.

Ive seen them though. Scalpers. Greasy fuckers sliding their claws deep into the wall of toys on the rack, digging around to find the right ones and shoving 5-10 of the same figure into their cart and then screeching at the guy working the floor to get all the ones from the back too.

Many of them are straight up afraid on confrontation though. If they are elbow deep in the rack digging for toys just walk down the isle and stand beside them and pretent to look for stuff. They fucking hate it. They feel they may be seen, or outed. They'll almost hiss and scurry away. And then I swear to fucking god, if you stand in that isle and pretend to browse right in front of where they were digging around, they freak the fuck out. They'll walk around the store and pass by that isle over and over again checking to see if you are still there.

I had one guy literally pass by the isle in quick succession about 8 times like he was just pacing back and forth and as soon as I left the isle he rushed back down there. He didnt seem like a scalper, but was some super autismo collector that didnt like people or something. He was looking at the hotwheels shit.

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>>5399453
Takara will release the molds as the G1 fembots, they worked with hasbro on the design.

>>5399461
>Many of them are straight up afraid on confrontation though. If they are elbow deep in the rack digging for toys just walk down the isle and stand beside them and pretent to look for stuff. They fucking hate it. They feel they may be seen, or outed. They'll almost hiss and scurry away. And then I swear to fucking god, if you stand in that isle and pretend to browse right in front of where they were digging around, they freak the fuck out. They'll walk around the store and pass by that isle over and over again checking to see if you are still there.
I can confirm this exact phenomenon, I've had it happen twice now. Once I vaguely knew the guy because I'd seen him multiple times at a local toy fair selling new hard-to-find items at a premium (he didn't recognize me hilariously). The other dude has a basket partially full of stuff that was rare or difficult to find, slowly going aisle aisle cleaning out anything good and buying all copies of whatever it was.

>>5399463
The car fembots have actually grown on me a little. They have a cute boxy style, almost like Gobots, the one that uses the Breakdown mold looks like the nerdy fat one who gets tired too often, the copters are still bleh though.

>>5399101
wait, is this what age we are, or what age we think the people in thread are?

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>>5399461
thanks for the laugh anon I can actually see these kinds of people being a thing

>>5399461
>all this dweebish behavior

I exhibit all of these and I don't scalp, I just want a figure that's fucking intact.

Damn kids ripping the front boxes apart

>>5399477
Your age

>>5399234
That's stupid.

I will admit though, when I had free time, driving around to all sorts of different stores and going to new towns miles and miles away was really fun.

>>5399559
When I was a kid every Toys R Us in my area had new shit that none of the other TRUs had and usually I had never seen it anywhere before, as an adult I expect that and drive around to every fucking Toys R Us around just to be disappointed.

>>5399563
This, fucking this.

I guess as kids we don't notice the stock rotations as much and as adults where we can see more stores we notice how fucking slow they are.

It sucks growing up

>>5397580
>I don't get the point so I'll attack what he used to make it
wew lad

>>5399590
Some of it probably had to do with how little I went to Toys R Us but I distinctly remember in like 97 a Toys R Us 30 minutes from my house had a bunch of DBZ toys just shelf warming and I didn't even know they were available. This was before Cartoon Network got it and few people knew what it was in my area because Fox Kids aired it at like 6am on Saturday. It was the same with early Car Robots, only the Gamestop an hour away in a fancy mall had them for a few months before they showed up anywhere else. Does anyone remember Lionel Toy World? Every one of those in my area was completely different. Batman Returns had just come out and I fucking remember I found Super Powers toys at one of those along with some Return of the Jedi stuff on deep discount. I keep trying to recreate these awesome discoveries to no avail. I'm a fucking man child hopelessly chasing a nonsensical dream.

>>5399608
I think we all are anon.

I used, and still do, love going into new shops that have a toy/vidya game display, some larger chains have clearance stuff that have sat there for years, others may just have a figure that I never thought I'd ever see, like the time I first saw a combiner wars deluxe (it was breakdown) or last week when we finally had a cw leader class that isn't a god damn megatron variation (we finally got starscream, threw my hands in the air out of rage of missing ultra magnus)

I haven't found anything good or new, not even the over priced "geek store" that marks their hot toys figures neca and all that for insane prices just never has anything new.

I envy americans, they get shit before australians and they get more of it (or so we believe), nothing hurts more than walking past a full display and next day someone guts it, doesn't matter what it is, if its something I see talked about here its fucking gone or never existed.

I missed out on a $10aud generations jetfire few months ago because of one little message that some discount chain had them on a local forum, and for the few I heard that went up ended up on ebay for $40-50, scalpers still trying their luck.

I'm glad I started checking that chain but I don't think I'll ever find a bargain like that, nor will I find anything amazing (with my UW devastator in the mail the few sightings of the cw version just don't excite me)

>>5399608

Probably because as time goes on, toy stores had to compete with ever advancing shit. In the 80's, they just had to stock some NES/Master System/Atari shit along with whatever regular toys were hot at the time, GI Joe, Thundercats, Cabbage Patch, etc. They could afford to let shit shelfwarm, because you just didn't have as many options as you do today. If a toy store in your area didn't have it, guess what?

You were shit out of luck, had to drive to another in the middle of Buttfuck, Nowheresville, if you even wanted to do that in the first place.

Now, toy stores are up against fucking iphone games and literal instant gratification, online retailers, Walmart (yeah Walmart's toy sections are kind of shit, but they will kick your dick right off in pricing VS traditional toy stores), and more. They have to shuffle inventory more and chuck the shelfwarmer shit ASAP.

>>5399446
>>5399446
Dude, the protectobots are barely out in some places, the autobots just now in others, and a few lucky people are finding the combaticons in the wild. Hold your shit while retailers perform the retailer equivalent of tree shaping that is stocking transformers.

>>5399618
>I envy americans, they get shit before australians and they get more of it (or so we believe)

Probably because the companies making the stuff you like are all US companies. Same reason why Japan gets all of the crazyawesome shit it does that we never get in the US, because it's made by Japanese companies and if you want it, you gotta import it and suck the dick of import fees.

>>5399622

My local shithole in Bumfuck, Nowhere on the east coast US is already on the Combaticon stuff, but still missing Onslaught/Scattershot, and never saw any of the Leaders except regular Megatron and Armada Megs.

>>5399153
He has the look for a perfect chug predaking

>>5399153
is that thing expensive?

Might be the only hope of a good predaking

>>5399618
It's about the same in the US except in regards to distribution. I mean we had some of the stuff you haven't seen 6 months ago but in my area it wasn't on shelves very long. Most of my toys that I buy local come from WalMart or Target and their TF sections are 90% a single shelf warmer (some still have Rhinox) with the deluxe pegs gutted and rarely restocked. It's odd, because they sell out so well you'd think that they would stock more and devote a larger space to them. Nope.

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>>5399619
You're probably right. You know what I miss more than anything? Weird events. Meet the Ninja Turtles. Meet Jeffrey the Giraffe. Meet Darth Vader. Does TRU still do that? Check out this particularly devious move for getting kids in the door.

>>5399626
I live in Pennsyltucky (the redneck, flyover nonsense of PA that isn't Pitt or Philly), and my roommate and I lucked out when we swung by the Johnstown Walmart on the way back from seeing Star Wars in Altoona, they had combaticon limbs and nothing else. Our town, Indiana, still has one regular Crosshairs and two power battlers Crosshairs. They had 2 sets of Autobots a month ago (there's a single Suntreaker left) and nothing since, but god forbid an RID peg isn't full.

>>5399641
A friend of mine who used to live in Indiana once found a brand new NES at K-Mart in 2002, I feel like a lot of stuff shelf warms there.

>>5399640
kek, people in costumes in suits don't work on kids that know the characters, Santa and bank mascots ok sure maybe even darth vader or batman could fool because they're human sized, shit like ninja turtles I doubt would work on this more informed world of today unless they're stuck in a stroller.

I don't think many people have the ability to bother with suiting up for that shit anyway, its hot, hard to see, and for some people it creates an awkward atmosphere.

I walked past some suited rabbit man during last easter and kids were running away from him, he must of got bored because he kinda waddled up towards me to try and give me a hug, and being the awkward autistic fuck I am wearing all black and sunglasses in doors and a thick black jacket second I stopped to look he kinda scurried away.

I felt bad for him but people were staring at us both even though all I did to stop and look what was approaching me.

>>5399641

Yeah, RiD shit is on the pegs. Last time I was there, it was all RiD and 2 Combaticon's left. And before that, all they had was Protectobots. Nothing of the G1 crew, though they had one or 2 Battlecore Prime's, and the ever-present Silverbolt's that will probably be there until the end of time.

It's too far for me to travel just to see meager offerings, so I mostly buy stuff online.

>>5399642
That's AWESOME, both in the epic fail and "Holy shit a sealed NES" kind of way, but yeah it does, I go there because they usually get what Walmart doesn't, like the Protectobots, Whitebread Prime, and unrelated, but worth mentioning, the Halo Notnerf guns. I work in the Walmart electronics section and I found out we still have six copies of the ps2 gta boxset and two other ps2 games lying about.

>>5399653
One of my local walmarts still has copies of .hack's 3rd ps2 game at full price, those gta box sets, and some other random ps2 games wtf is up with that? a few launch wii games as well, also full price

>>5399658
Some launch 360 games as well, which are coming up on their 11th birthday wtf why are they still on shelves? I guess the dot hack game is even older now than I think about it... WTF?!

>>5399622
Here in New Zealand we have Protectobots out the ass at the moment, even Legends Groove if you know where to look. '84 Autobot limbs are starting to appear in some parts, and I gather Combaticons are beginning to drop as well. That said, we didn't get anything from Wave 2 except Blackjack (who I'm pretty sure reshipped in a later wave, so will be the one that we have). Currently Wave 3 Voyagers are on shelves, and the occasional Leader Starscream, but no Thundercracker or Magnus. No sign of fixed Motormaster or Bsttle Core Prime either.

You're only permitted to buy one version of each base Combiner Wars mold, but you can choose any version of it, including exclusives (though you'll still pay standard exclusive prices for them) and upcoming figures like Liokaiser. Swindle and Rook count as one mold, as do the other retools.

Which figures do you buy?

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>>5399704
Do you need to be able to build a full combiner with the chosen figures?

Is this about choosing which version of each mold is best, or also which molds are best among the others?

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>>5399704

>>5399707
Full combiners are optional. Basically which version of each mold is best or which you prefer.

>>5399704

Spend the 100+ dollars on a third party combiner limb instead.

>>5399704
When in doubt, UW superion

>>5399129
>>5399153

yes because that's the last thing Canada needs.

it's hard enough, I get little respect from my American friends.

>>5397499
>>5399203

funny enough in the cartoon both Tankor and Obsidian had the same VA. It's a Paul Dobson two pack.

>>5399532
>I just want a figure that's fucking intact.
>Damn kids ripping the front boxes apart
Good thing the packaging is just trash

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I have an honest question and I expect honest answers.

Are you/know any women who are into transformers and or own any of the toys, current or old?

I know one of the younger co-workers is interested and has some of the legion rid2015 but that's it, they also have some sort of gender complex but since I don't follow that shit I broke off topic and went on about the Japanese g1.

REALLY didn't want to get political at work, just seems odd every time transformers and women are mentioned they don't identify as a straight up lady, is it because they want to "transform" their gender or does the "women" need to have a male mindset to even like hunks plastic that can transform from fishbot to a haiku bot?

>>5399737
>buy 1/6th of a toy instead!

Turdcucks, folks. You can't make this shit up.

>>5399970
I think he was joking.

>>5399967
A lot of tumblr has leaked onto the TF fandom with the advent of the MTMTE comics, as good or bad as they are. To be honest that sort of person has been in it for a while, they were just quiet and stuck to their own tiny forums and chatrooms. crazy, LGBT obsessed TF fangirls have been a thing since the earliest days of the internet, but now since the internet has become so integrated with our lives, they are as loud as possible. I mean fuck, they write the official canon now.

>>5399985

I can confirm, they've always existed but they were always on DeviantArt.

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IT'S HAPPENING.

>>5400033
I like that 20th anniversary logo they have there. What do the runes underneath BW20 say?

>>5400033
Don't like the ape mode silhouette, unless the bot mode does something the old ultra class can't I'll stick to that.

That said I do lack a beast wars megatron...takara, if you hear me, any of them will do, yesssss

>>5400041
yes? yes

>>5400041
Have any MPs had any electronic sounds? I'm 100% sure Kaye would be so on board for that.

Even on the Takara release.

>>5400048
I believe only a variation of the mp-01 did but that was a separate stand.

But remember a few key notes

>mp's are intended for adult collectors and electronic noises/quotes don't work for everyone
>gutting an mp for a voice box may affect transformation design as it needs to work around the box
>any spoken dialogue would be based on japanese actors while a shittier hasbro release may either give us the english actors or scrap the gimmick due to cost/safety concerns

Not impossible, but I HIGHLY doubt we'd get any noises

>>5400041
>does something the old ultra class can't
This. The bot mode was very good. Pretty much not much needed to added except some articulation in minor areas.

Also the MP better have all the weapons.

>>5400033
It'll be interesting to see what they do with this. But wake me up when I get an MP Dinobot.

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>>5400041
>>5400043

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>>5400041


Better?

>>5400033
Are the gorilla feet bacwards?

>>5400060
Would you rather have skull mace or double arm cannons?
Looking at Takara's track record for cartoon accuracy they may go for two guns.
>>5400140
That's robot kibble sticking out the back. You can see it in the prototype picture.

>>5400235
Honestly I'd rather have the mace. I always thought that was the coolest weapon.

But it looks like the kibble is actually gorilla toes.

>>5398248
>defending scalpers

literally cancer

I asked this in the 3P thread, but if Hasbro starts enforcing their copyrights, does that mean 3Ps are dead?

Most of the people in that thread said they aren't interested in original bots, just adaptations of G1 characters.

>>5400287
It would hurt the 3rd party, mostly distribution if hasbro comes with a "we don't allow you to sell our stuff if you sell theirs" but it would cost Hasbro/Takara way more than is worth, 3rd parties have limited releases for a niche market that Has/Tak mostly ignores.

>>5397704
just to be clear, i have the PDA Buzzsaw, this fits in Soundwave's chest, right?

>>5400389
Yes it does

>>5399704
>one version of each mold
>literally impossible to make Menasor or Superion like this

You already failed on the premise.

>>5400565
No if you use Offroad and Alpha Bravo, also Air Raid and Skydive share parts, but are not the same mold.

>>5400588
>Air Raid and Skydive share parts, but are not the same mold.
Try convincing /tfg/ of this since they always say Air Raid is a remold of Sky Dive. Even in that 'mold list' someone put Air Raid under Sky Dive remolds.

>>5400592
Because they are the same base mold with different components. However, the parts used with only one version are significant.

>>5400588

Thats still not the official teams. You can't make either Superion or Menasor from that because they innately reuse molds.

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>>5400033
Why are you even surprised about it? Unless you never set foot on this thread for like the past 5 months then that might be the only time you might have not known it was coming out.

>>5400660
>>5400660
>>5400660

New thread

>>5397425

> Hollow arms.
> But here's Daniel in a stupid mech suit to raise the price.

Swing and a miss.