Critical role - /tv/ or /tg/

>>55384068
>How do you feel about Roleplaying games becoming pop culture?
It'll go the same way as videogames, so prepare your fucking anus for /v/'s dick.

>>55384087
I kinda like the video game scene right now. Autists screeching around in their teens buying EA 'n shit, hipsters in their twenties having their own, slightly more expensive games and the 30+ crowd has a full library of their favorite systems library from one to two generations ago.

Replace EA with D&D5, hipster games with Pathfinder and favorite system with oWoD, Cthulhu and aD&D

>>55384153
Great comparison, thanks for reminding me why I want to stab my friend every time he discovers some new piece of Steam-powered crap and tries to goad me into playing it.

>>55384304
Is there an age difference?
I find when playing with a younger group, it tends to go loldudeweed a lot. I use those groups as a rare treat, not to be overused.

>>55384389
I wouldn't mind the loldudeweed kids, actually. Few I've met had their head in the game more than the others.

And the Steam-asshole is in his early 30s but without any real future after he broke up with his gf of 4 years. Dude's regressing into a manchild.

>>55384510
And he's into Steampunk or what do you mean by calling him Steam-asshole?

>>55384590
That he's addicted to games on Steam, and will try out any piece of shit that's in their library.

>>55384068
>How do you feel about Roleplaying games becoming pop culture?
Unless you are in your late 50s, they became pop culture before you ever were born, you stupid millenial shit.

>>55384068
Daily reminder that one Critical Role fan is worth ten /tg autists because Critical Role fans actually buy merchandise and products the designers make, create a safe space for people to play and enjoy themselves and share their enthusiasm for the game via social media, Twitter , vlogs, YouTube, blogs and streams thus promoting the hobby as a fun thing for everyday people to do, not a niche, nerdy, scummy little boys club.

Meanwhile the so called 'superior' gamers on /tg pirate all their content so don't support the game designers and screech endless complaints out which only promotes an environment of hostility and negativity that nobody wants to get involved in, hence killing the hobby dead.

>>55384766
If the roleplaying system you are playing has not been out of print for more than 10 years, then you are what is wrong with the hobby.

>>55384687
Maybe where you grew up, but there are hobbystores in some villages now, rural critical role fans.

>>55384687
>le epic millennial meme
Fuck off and drown.

>>55384068
>Critical role

I watched 10 minutes of those tards on twitch once.
They needed to climb a tree to see which direction they needed to go.
One girl turned into a fucking bumblebee. On guy used massive strength.
They spent 10 minutes using various abilities to all climb.
Then they laughed and went back to texting on their phones.

Fuck. That. Shit.

>>55385558
As I said, quality discussion aside. I don't enjoy em either, but I can respect what they achieved nonetheless. I don't know their target audience, but I suspect we will get hordes of millenial roleplayers thanks to them.

>>55385986
I wouldn't doubt that you are correct.

I cannot for the live of me understand how people can listen to actual play podcasts. I draw or paint several hours a day, so I'm listening to a shitton of podcasts during that, but this? This shit is a mystery wrapped in an enigma to me. The only play podcast I can tolerate is a fucking Gamma World game with a DM that tries to be half-serious and the three players doing their best to fill the game with as much asinine bullshit as possible. One of the players is a squid stuck in a tank. But the ""serious"" bottom of the barrel improv theater is fucking intolerable. And they all sound like directed by Joss Whedon, what the fuck is up with that?

>>55385558

I started to watch them on youtube, first episode, thought that surely this must be at least somewhat good and entertaining, they are voice-actors and I like role-playing... cringed so hard I had to stop watching after 10-15 minutes.

>>55386078

The Joss Whedon-vibe is a spot-on description. The kind of 'non-offensive, trying real hard to be witty and edgy without being actually edgy'-vibe.

>>55385986
I'll fully admit me and my friends got into DnD because of Critical Role, I've had an interest for a while to no one to play with. My issue now is that everyone who has gotten into the hobby, even here in bum fuck nowhere Nebraska, expects their games to be just like CR. Me and my friends made that mistake the first time I DMed and we got bored after a bit. When I scrapped that campaign and had us start fresh with little to no influence of CR everyone started having more fun.

I don't mind CR anymore I listen to it to try and get better at painting a picture with words as a DM. While it does bring new people to the hobby, it gives an odd to bad impression of what DnD should be.

>>55386203
As a long time listener/watcher you really only stay for Sam and Travis. Mercer is good for helping new DMs learn how to describe their world but he has some habits from pf, especially early on, Travis is stuck playing a retard, despite being the smartest of the lot, because Grog is literally his first character. Sam's whole stick is a quick joke, some pop culture references and pointing out how bad the group is at planning.

>>55386287
>When I scrapped that campaign and had us start fresh with little to no influence of CR everyone started having more fun.

Gratz anon. I am glad you had the senses to figure that out. Many don't.
I hope you have a shitload of good times.

Matthew Mercer is contributing more to the downfall of the D&D community than anyone else in history. Not even Monte Cook, not even Lorraine Williams, not even Michael Mearls, not even Gary Gygax himself have done as much damage to D&D. Mercer has made the game palatable to the kind of person who spends his Friday nights playing Cards Against Humanity while slobbering microbrews all over his beard while his wife's son is sleeping in the next room. The kind of moron who thinks mirthful laughter is the end goal of everything, and fails to understand the potential that RPGs have as a fulfilling hobby. Instead, he shits on that creative potential by turning the entire game into a joke, refusing to take anything seriously and making gimmick characters, bringing along his fat girlfriend to make a shitty elf druid character that she hardly roleplays, screeching autistically whenever she rolls a natural 20 because that is the only aspect of the game that her tiny female brain can comprehend, taking copious pictures of the game and posting them to Snapchat and Instagram to show what a geek she is, before getting tired at 11 and tugging at her cuck boyfriend's shoulder so that they both leave and disrupt the immersion even further, because the game doesn't matter to these people at all. It is a mode of entertainment, nothing else. And by entertainment, I mean they consider it nothing more than a Netflix special that they can pause at any time, because it is meant entirely to pander to their enjoyment and make them laugh to cover up how empty their soulless lives are. This hobby used to be full of passionate people who cared about the game and weren't afraid to show it. Now the hobby is being diluted by hordes of casuals who couldn't give a fuck.

>>55386613
Originally it was because none of us had any clue what we were doing so it was fun, then the polish wore off and I could tell people were getting bored. Luckily i get bored in my free time so I'll have random YouTube "DM tips" playing in the background while I'm doing whatever.

It's really the biggest thing that needs to be addressed with new players coming in, don't pretend to be a bunch of professional pretending to be their characters, don't expect your DM to be Mercer. Make your own thing, yes if you take inspiration that's fine, but don't get bogged down trying to play someone else's character. Also the nat20 meme needs to be addressed, I don't know how many times I've had people complain because they don't auto succeed some social encounter because of "dude nat20!" Mercer has gotten better at this but the damage has been done unfortunately so it'll take a bit for people to catch on.

>>55386613
>>55386639

The issue is that RPGs are being turned into a venue of entertainment for the masses, sacrificing everything on the altar of 'is it funny?' The vast majority of us are not actors or comedians, and shows like Critical Roll implant the idea that you have to be and it is the expected method of play. It is not.

That being said, if you want to play comedy games, congratulations, the number of people who expect you to entertain them instead of engaging with them is rising daily.

Every GM should have a session 0 where they sit down with the group and go over expectations.

>>55386287
I mean isn't that always the best approach to a hobby?

First you enjoy something from afar, then you watch some other people do it from up close and then you find a way to make it your own.

I used to listen to NSync and Backstreet Boys, which motivated me to try singing, failed, and found the violin for me.

>>55386287
This is the cancer right here.
Most live play shows/podcasts are both heavily scripted and played by one-bit voice actors or theater people. They get their role, do their stupid fucking voice and "play" the story that is a one-way railroad, as dictated by what the DM thinks is fun for the audience.
>That one Vin Diesel Episode that is just two hours of sucking Vin Diesel's dick

>>55386253
Also this

>>55384884
Yes, and?

I know more "rural" players than I know "city" ones. And it was been like this as far as I care to remember. Maybe, just maybe because the kids in the village had to find a creative and relatively cheap, one-buy-makes-you-happy-for-decades, way of killing boredom.

Seriously, what the fuck, anon?

>>55384940
If you just knew what millenial means, you would understand why it fits the context.
Unfortunatelly, you think it's a meme.

>>55387158
>I can't roleplay, so I will bash anyone doing so
>Lel, who needs roleplaying if you can just roll dice
It must be sad being you.

>>55384068
It's stupid shit, it's for normalfucks who think RPGs are all about "le ebin natural 20" and laughing hysterically. Holy fucking shit, the amount of retarded sperg laughter makes me want to drive my fist through the wall whenever I listen to it. If I was in a Liam Neeson situation where there were armed men coming to take me and I needed to get psyched up to kill, I would just watch about 30 minutes of Critical Role and their stupid fucking laughter would be enough to whip me into a blood frenzy. The cunts are the worst, they are airheaded, stupid pieces of shit, lack self-awareness, they are everything that is wrong with women, they are why I gave up on dating because every cunt I met for coffee was so goddamn fucking boring I wanted to kill myself. Left one of them with the check once and just went to my car and drove home and deleted her number and facebook. Also Matt Mercer is hardly a good DM, given the amount of work he has to put into this. For fuck's sake I barely prep sometimes and I DM as well as him, description and everything. The only thing he has is a good voice. He looks like a greasy skater fuck, too. His hair is trash. Marisha whatever-her-name-is is so fucking stupid she's a prime example of why eugenics should make a comeback. And thanks to Critical Roll, I now have to DM for hordes of normoniggers and roasties who come into the store. I wanted to run fucking Curse of Strahd and figured I'd help out the FLGS at the same time and now I'm fucking trapped in hell. These pieces of shit come in two groups: video game autists who treat it all like a video game, and normos who don't even understand what's going on, but they liked a bunch of critical role nat20 pages on Tumblr and upvotes nat20 stories on Reddit so now they're nerds and shit. Fucking hell, this crap has started creeping into my other games, too. I am so sick of players saying "lol I just rolled a CRIT on my spot check" well it's a 23 but it doesn't matter cause I rolled a CRIT.

>>55386078
>I draw or paint several hours a day
NEET?

CR main character power rankings:
1. Taryon
2. Grog
3. Scanlan
4. Percy
5. Vex
6. Pike
7. Vax
8. Keyleth
9. Tiberius

Will they finally end the campaign today? Will Matt hold back and let them all live?

Will Keyleth gust cantrip her way into a true final fight with the Raven Queen for Vax's life?

>>55389864
Oh my fucking god, Keyleth WOULD try that shit, too.

>>55388370
Explain? Technically Vax has two sneak attacks per round, Keyleth has a lot of shapechanger options, and Percy's max DPR is way higher than anyone else's.

>>55384865
underrated post

>>55384068
>How do you feel about Roleplaying games becoming pop culture?
if it leads to other RPGs becoming household names, it's great. if not, it's utterly plebish.

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>>55384510
>Dude's regressing into a manchild.

>>55390052
Not actual character power, but the characters I enjoy most on the show.

>>55384068
I think its all a mistake and makes my job as a GM harder, especially CR. The mainstreaming of nerd stuff is a godsend, but the mantling of nerd culture by corporate funded outsiders is a blight.

>>55384865
There are some good reprints out there, Anon, but you're mostly right.

>>55386343
>as a long time listener
Kill yourself before the disease spreads.

>>55386639
This, because I dont have the time to type out a diatribe of my own.

>>55384865
Check out Stars Without Number

>>55386812
Yes but most people aren't getting pasted the "watch some other people do it from up close". They've developed the idea that that is DnD and if it isn't like that then it's wrong some how.

>>55387158
Even if they are scripted people still enjoy them and it gets them into the hobby. The issue comes up with most people not trying to make their own way or feeling they are doing it wrong because it's not like CR. What needs to happen is more people need to be active in helping newer players realize "hey every game isn't going to be CR, if that's what you want then you're probably not going to have a good time." Also I do agree that episode was obnoxious as fuck.

>>55390713
It's ok, I'm a DM and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

>>55390937
I think what more people should realize is that no game should be CR. See above tirades about tone.

>>55390960
I'm in agreement the issue is some people are utterly confused by this. They think that IS DnD, if someone seems reasonable then yeah you explain it but sometimes people just need to learn the hard way.

>>55390991
I find that often people dont learn, and that you're better off trying to court normies that enjoy a good story than meme-nerds who collect popcap figures and worship le-ebin-nat20.

Ive only go so many hours of free time and I wont spend it re-teaching people. I think the problem CR creates is that it makes DnD entertaining for people who should never play it in the first place.

>>55384068
critical role is heavily scripted and put heavy expectations on the few GMs in existence. that is bad but if it brings in more gms and players that understand that critical role is the porn of sex in the rpg world, then good.

>>55391126
That implies that CR is even that good. Its entertaining, but Id never want to play a game GMd by Mercer.

>>55391024
The first part absolutely

>meme-nerds who collect popcap figures and worship le-ebin-nat20.
These are the ones that I normally just turn away because they are dead set in that they know how it works. If they learn good on them if not no skin off my bones.

>Ive only go so many hours of free time and I wont spend it re-teaching people.
This is understandable, personally I haven't run into too many situations where I have to completely reteach. Mostly it's teaching from square one or just correcting a few bad habits.

>I think the problem CR creates is that it makes DnD entertaining for people who should never play it in the first place.
That is a really good point I hadn't thought about, it explains the people who try a game or so and think it's completely shit because it doesn't live up to x show.

>>55391149
I'd only do it if Travis is involved, but that's because I have a man crush on him.

>>55385558
lel, i wanna see that

>>55391173
Let me give you an example of somebody who should not be playing:

Ive been running a bunch of one-shots to try to find some new folks for my big game Im going to run next year, and there's this one guy. This guy doesnt understand the concept of personality. He doesnt understand that two characters with the same stats can act differently. Its the craziest thing. Ive tried explaining it to him in the simplest terms and he just doesnt get that theres more to a character than what's on the page. Its people like that who would normally be a million miles from anything creative that CR throws into my wheelhouse on a weekly basis.

Doing tryouts for a new party has given me a new appreciation for the damage Matty bo batty has wrought.

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>>55391261
>He doesnt understand that two characters with the same stats can act differently. Its the craziest thing. Ive tried explaining it to him in the simplest terms and he just doesnt get that theres more to a character than what's on the page.
Jesus fucking Christ that sounds horrifying

>>55386764
it's not hard to out-GM Mercer because his plots are really mediocre trash. where he excels is in narration and voice-acting. you'll find it hard to beat him there but writing better adventures and better settings isn't hard.
that said, i find the dude likeable even if i can't watch the show because it's waaaaay too gamist.

>>55391344
Its not even gamist, the show lives well beyond the fourth wall.

>>55391344
Yeah, luckily I realized that early on, it doesn't help that WotC is really trying to keep them in the spot light because of their success and the attention it brings.
There's another DM in my area who hasn't and tries to inject CR references and campaign style as much as possible.

>>55391315
I talked to him and he basically believes that there's one personality for each spot on the alignment chart, and even went so far as to categorize everybody in the party IRL to prove his point. When I brought up things like specifics in background and motivation he said, I shit you not "how am I supposed to know about their past experiences?".

>>55391414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsuMsPIzJUY

>>55391419
Does he have a mental problem? That sounds like a lot more than just being new. I'm curious now how he functions in everyday life.

>>55390730
It's pasta

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>>55391414
>There's another DM in my area who hasn't and tries to inject CR references and campaign style as much as possible.

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>>55384766
>Do you remember the kid that claimed to know someone who gets paid to GM?

That's pretty true.

Although Marisha and Keyleth is everything that is wrong with casual players in RPGs. She's definitely the worst. I'd love to play with everyone else in that group, but not Marisha.

>>55391474
Doesnt make it less true.

>>55391457
He owns a small landscaping business in the local area. Average intelligence is a horrifying things, below average is positively mortifying.

>>55390115
Easy for the reasonably ealthy intellectual to say he didn't give a shit. Most people have to give a shit in order to survive or live at least a normal life.

>>55391530
That's a problem with the player, not the game, cunt.

>>55391379
i just took a glimpse into a random episode and, damn, Mercer's pacing is poor there.

>>55391691
Its a problem with the player base, which is arguably tied to the game. What the relation between the two is, well thats up to you.

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>>55384068
You know I never see discussions on the homebrew classes that Matt made in these threads. What are your thoughts on these classes?

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>>55392205
Pt 2.

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>>55392205
>>55392212
Pt.3

>>55392205
>>55392212

The gunslinger is poorly designed & under-powered. A crossbow wielding battlemaster fight do both do more damage and more trick shots, with less of a headache in terms of book keeping.

>>55392212
Isn't that a port from Pathfinder? Seems ok to me, even if it did come from Pathfinder.

>>55392205
>>55392212
>>55392238
According to 5eg they're all shit.
Gunslinger takes Pathfinder-type design of big pitfalls compensating for big benefits, which is bad.
Nobody really cares about the other 2. Blood Hunter seems OK from some of the subclasses, but I forget which ones. Make sure you have the correct version, it's been revised a lot.

>>55392242
>A crossbow wielding battlemaster fight

But crossbows aren't guns.

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>>55392268
>According to 5eg they're all shit

According to 5eg, 5e is shit.

Much like the Pathfinder general, that's a containment thread.

>>55392298
But I like it there...

>>55392252
Yes, with all of the Pathfinder design baggage associated with it as well.

>>55392273
There's this thing called "imagination" and reflavoring items/abilities. I'd suggest it.

>>55392329
>There's this thing called "imagination" and reflavoring items/abilities. I'd suggest it.

Cool, so I want my class to be a gunslinger, not a fighter. So I make my own class.

>>55392350
What is a gunslinger?

>>55392507
A chucklefuck who insists on having their cake and eating it too, I.E. throwing around fireballs and lightning bolts while Two-Gun Tony-ing it like it's the Wild West.

>>55392619
That doesnt even sound like a gunslinger, that just sounds like a wizard with a winchester.

>>55392643
It is, gunslinger is not chucking fireballs around, at best they are dealing arrows worth of damage.

>>55392350
>I'll pretend to be retarded that'll show them

>>55392643
>>55392803
Sorry, clarification. I didn't mean they were flinging spells, I meant they existed next to people flinging spells. Swords and Sorcery, not Wild West Witches, y'know?
Not that that sounds bad or stupid by any means, it's just not D&D.

>>55392831
Fine, whats wrong with just playing a crossbow fighter and fluffing the crossbow as a gun? What changes? Dont they have hand-crossbows?

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>>55392968
Reload speed for one. Two, don't tell me how to have fun just because it doesn't fit into your preconceived notion of what 'good fun' and 'bad fun' are.

>>55393018
1. Quick reload feats.
2. Play a different game then.

I have nothing against you having your kind of fun, the game does and you can only bend a broken system too far before you're just freeforming with some weird shapes on the table.

>>55392968
Well, I will preface this by saying I've never run a game where someone asked to be a Gunslinger. Currently I'm playing with a guy who is a Gunslinger, but he couldn't care less about the campaign and doesn't want to be there, so he's pretty much a non-person.
To get to the point, my guess is that many people would argue that "a gun should do more than D6", and "should have more range than 60 feet". God forbid they want to channel Percy (a character from Critical Role) and be the chucklefuck in question who invents gunpowder in the first place. Bonus points if they're unwilling to put anything more than a 10 in INT.

Mary McGlynn is and always will be best guest

>>55392831
> it's just not D&D
We're talking about the same game system that has literal space ships flying to other totally not planets (but they're really just fucking planets) so you can fuck green alien space babes. Everything is D&D. Just because it doesn't fit your narrow as fuck definition of generic stagnant medieval Tolkien doesn't make it not D&D.

>>55386078
How you gonna throw shade at System Mastery and not mention the podcast name

Also it's fucking Gamma World, how are you supposed to be serious about the game?

>>55393044
>2. Play a different game then.

No, you go fuck yourself.

>>55393054
1. People who say that probably dont know how accurate smoothebore firearms are and how range works in D&D.
2. Damage is an abstraction, they can get bent.

>>55393122
>Waaah, I want to play a gnome in VtmB.
>Waaah, I want to play a sentient mouse in Engineheart.
>Waaah, I want to play as a conquistador in Paranoia.

I've never played an rpg just war games I came across this show on twitch and watched an episode or two.

It just seemed .... so fake? It had the greese ball manlet DM with long hair trying to be be cool, I thought he was ok to begin with but the longer it went on the more I disliked him, he seemed to over act alot of the voices I dunno hard to put a finger on.

Some attractive women that barely seemed interested in being there. Typical hipster faggot with bow tie and generally retarded looking clothes that no normal person would wear. Some buff dude trying to show that they can be closet nerds epic XD too and to top it off token person of colour also dressed like a hipster faggot.

It seemed very contrived and designed to appeal to normies. I wasn't sure if this is how normal dnd plays but I assumed not. The way the game was portrayed in stranger things seemed more genuine than this pish.

Normies ruin everything. They will ruin your hobby too, the extra exposure and new blood it brings doesn't outweigh the sheer cancer that comes with it. Neckbeard autismo's have always been a part of tg but they don't have the power to completely take over your hobby and shit on it from every angle.

It will slowly start forcing shit like making it more inclusive, using more pc language an other such nonsense terms.

if a game is a reprint, is it still out of print then?

>>55393515
What episode did you watch?? The whole cast is white.

>>55384068
Percy is a whiny fag
Keyleth is a dumb bitch
Tiberius is a bro
Grog is an alpha and LITERALLY the brains of the group

t. someone who started the first episode about a week ago

>>55394650
Percy and Tiberius will surprise you. One is a good surprise and one is awful. Not telling which is which.
The other two remains the same for HUNDREDS OF HOURS of content.

tonight's episode will end on a cliffhanger and matt will bail them out of whatever the fucked up trying to do

>>55394650
Percy stays a whiny fag forever.
Keyleth gets stupider, if you can believe it. (She also starts cucking Matt with Percy sometime between episodes 20 and 30, watch how often they're all over each.)
Tiberius is the opposite of a bro. (Spoiler: The actor has AIDS now lmao)
Grog is truly an alpha, you are correct there.

>>55394939
>The actor has AIDS now lmao
what the fuck happened to him i remember him leaving critical roll then disappearing for a while

>>55394968
He left Critical Role after he got AIDS and cancer at the same time, started doing hard drugs, and called a fan who tried to make a Tiberius shirt a "leech".

Not only that, but everyone had gotten sick of him in-game long before that. The "1500 mirrors" incident is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

There's rumors he tried to hit on Marisha "Cuck My Shit Up" Ray, but I haven't found any evidence she's fucking anyone but Talisman Jefferey (or whatever his name)

If you care more about RP and telling a story CR is awesome

If you care more about rolling dice and killing things in fun encounters CR has done nothing but destroy you

I get a ton of people in my shop who came in from CR. God fucking damn most of them are retarded. However you find the few who will learn how to play well and tell the rest the game types you are playing aren't what they are looking for. If they still insist on playing with you don't change a fucking thing and they will either get pissed and leave or adapt.

People who hate CR because it introduced unwanted players are too fucking socially retarded to say no to people/choose who to play with.

That said I feel meh about CR. Some of the players annoy me and I can't honestly tell if they are RPing annoying characters or just annoying. That say Marisha deff is the weakest of the bunch, but I can at least respect how much she dedicates to her character.

>>55394939
>>55395004
Marisha and Liam's characters hook up, not Taliesin's (Percy)

>>55395004
>There's rumors he tried to hit on Marisha "Cuck My Shit Up" Ray, but I haven't found any evidence she's fucking anyone but Talisman Jefferey (or whatever his name)
Um she's married to Matt.

Literally DM's girlfriend.

>>55395004
>>55394939
I love the meme where people think Matt is getting cucked by Taliesin.

Taliesin has been with the same chick for like 6-7 years (Unless the creepy reddit stalkers are wrong) and has mentioned his girlfriend in Q&As and shit before.

I highly doubt that if him and Marisha were banging they would flaunt it over Twitch to 25k people, in the same room as Matt, and somewhere were his GF could see. (Unless they are swingers, and if so more power to them).

Plus Marisha and Taliesin have been friends since before CR so they are probably just super comfortable with each other.

>>55395223
I think thats next month

>gust cantrip

mark it off bingo

What the hell are they even doing right now? Is this supposed to be a puzzle, or are they just trying to bore the fragile morons that form part of their audience so they go to sleep before a TPK?

>>55395234
Correct me if I am wrong (My only exposure to 5e is through CR) but isn't that a legit use?

https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/54001/cant-seem-to-find-restrictions-on-cantrips

Essentially the only time it would be an issue is if someone cast a Blade Ward cantrip right before a fight and tried to pass it off as a non-combat action (Which I will tell them to get fucked, and give up their first action)

>>55395022
Thanks, that's a great answer.

Same thing that goes for Marisha goes for Laura too though. Her fucking bear somehow gives her the honor of being a player running two mary-sues at the same time.

>>55384153
D&D5e is good, though, and I can't recall the last time EA released something that wasn't shit served with a side of DRM.

Def Jam: Fight For New York was the last one, I think.

>>55395261
I think Matt is throwing them a bone with a way to slow down/stop the titan from progressing for awhile.
That or they THINK thats whats happening and they are wasting their time for the umpteenth time since they got here.

>>55395230
tal has a gf? i would have bet my foot he was gay

>>55395316
According to Reddit he does, but I sure as shit can't be assed to follow up on their evidence

Here is the thread if you actually care.
https://www.reddit.com/r/criticalrole/comments/432sgb/no_spoilersi_feel_like_a_total_moron/

So a month ago I tuned in, and it looked like the campaign was a few sessions off wrapping up.

I decided i'd check it out later when they start the next campaign, are they close yet or...?

>>55395295
It is, it's just that at least once an episode recently Marisha often tried to use it for nonsense and situations bigger than the spell itself. It was almost a post out of habit but it was the first time that I can remember she used it properly.

>>55395331
Could be tonight but at this rate it may as well be a few weeks from now. They're not very bright when it comes to puzzles most of the time

>>55395331
They've been "close" for almost 2 months now.
So who knows.

>>55390115
That has nothing to do with what the term "manchild" evokes, and you damn well know that, you disingenuous twat. Get C.S. Lewis's name out of your mouth before I reach through the fucking series of tubes and slap it out.

>>55395331
In theory they should be done with the campaign within one or two episodes.

However Matt has made the finale pretty fucking complicated (it's pretty ingenious if it weren't for the fact the cast and fans are ready for it to end) and the players are taking their fucking sweet ass time trying to find every secret.

According to wikipedia Matt and Marisha are supposed to be getting married in late October so I can't imagine Matt letting it hang on past that (Since they will lose time for the wedding/honeymoon)

Matt's sciatica may really fuck everything over, but that is way out of his control. I'd imagine if he is still flaring up into October he may take a complete break so he can at least enjoy his wedding/honeymoon.

>>55384068
>How do you feel about Roleplaying games becoming pop culture?
quantity of people to play with increases but the quality of people to play with decreases exponentially

call me a hipster all you want but when something gets popular its not long before its ruined. just look at video games, comic, and TCGs like magic

>>55393064
I never understood the people who say this. I always find that she doesn't know when to stop when she joins in with breaking character. Whenever she speaks out of character I just have to skip through because she tries too hard to be "in" with everyone else.

Plus haven't all three of her characters been essentially the exact same? Just some generic woman with the same voice?

After hundreds of episodes the rogue just figured out how Reliable Talent works.

Oy vey .

>>55384068
critical role is shit and the people it attracts to the hobby are even worse

>>55392507
A miserable little pile of bullets.

>>55395437
I could of sworn that matt specifically said, like when he first got it, that they'd houserule still have 1s be 1s because they like crit fails on ability checks?

>>55395472
Im pretty sure they did but I think Matt forgot or just wants them to keep fucking going

>>55395485
Or maybe he just realised thats not how it works, it's reliable talent, not 95% reliable

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>>55384068
The normies this kind of shit attracts can't be any worse than the insufferable autists that already populate this hobby.

all it does is give new player an unrealistic expectation of what dnd is which is honestly pretty shitty. everyone always forgets that all these people are professional actors and that even when they cant RP for shit its still going to be better on average than your normal group of basement autists you are actually likely to play with

>>55395498
I doubt that because they already run a bunch of weird as fuck homebrew rules (Like their ressurection rules)

>>55395472
That is correct.
>>55395498
>>55395510
>>55395485
My guess is that he changed his mind.

>>55395004
Which episode is the 1500 mirrors incident in?

>>55391149
>but Id never want to play a game GMd by Mercer.
mercer is honestly a pretty meh gm with a pretty meh world but he figured out how to use a thesaurus so people think he is amazing. in reality its grog taryon, scanlan, ashley and on a very rare occasion when he isnt trying to be edgy as fuck vax that make everything bearable

>>55395534
iirc ep 27, which was his last episode

>>55395510
I actually like some of their homebrew, while im not super heavy into the characters (maybe my campaigns just havent gone long enough for people to get that attached) but the fact that resurrection can fail is nice to me. His other rules seem to mostly be to help with the large party/leftovers from pathfinder.

1s being a "crit fail" on ability checks makes sense to me, because if a 1 would succeed, theres no real reason to roll. (unless its like a time based roll, like how long it would take). However reliable talent should specifically ignore that, so im glad he changed back

>>55395534
I forget the episode number but the episode name is "The Path to Whitestone"

>>55395543
He didn't even learn how to use a thesaurus. He just read through one one day and saw a bunch of cool words and decided to use the same handful of words to describe everything even if the word makes no sense.

>>55395561
Take a shot every time the man says "entity" and your liver will fucking melt.

And I say that as someone who actually likes the show.

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

I just tuned in and they are talking about some magical mcguffin sword to kill Vecna with.

Did I miss something in the past or is Matt starting his "baby them to victory" because this is the first I am hearing of it.

>>55395508
>unrealistic expectation

>Underdeveloped characters based on singular ideas and silly accents
>Regularly slipping out of character
>Metagaming
>Inability to comprehend the rules
>DM who can't control the pace of the game
>Cliched plot

For what it's worth, I'd say it's a set of perfectly realistic expectations. They're real people and are real players, it really is D&D, not bad and not great either - just a bunch of guys and gals.
Although Sam and Travis are at least two leagues above everyone else I ever played with.

Oh my lord, they're going to take a long rest and let Vasselheim die.
They're gonna fucking do it.
Good old VM.

>>55395580
nah, they know nothing about the sword of kas, it got mentioned and MAYBE its somewhere here, but its not like that would instakill vecna or some shit.

>>55393515
You don't even play dnd and you feel the need to comment on this? Neck yourself

>>55395580
They've heard about the Sword of Kas a few times in-character, but haven't found it yet.
Some are thinking that it's the cursed evil sword that fucked them up earlier, but most aren't thinking that way.

>>55395577
Same. I like it but his ability to describe things is very limited, along with a number of other things that often make watching it a chore.

Cascading, entity, form, hits the shoulder, maw, obsidian-like, etc

>>55395594
To be fair letting Vasselheim get destroyed is better than dying and letting the world get fucked.

I think at this juncture they have a better shot at killing an ascended Vecna after a long rest than killing him with everything already blown.

>Had the stream muted
>Unmute it
>They are all flipping out and Matt looks like he just got cucked

What did I miss?

>>55395632
Vex has a ring that prevents them from being scryed upon. A plan was afoot to split the party, and they changed their minds at the last minute.

Oh okay I guess they're streaming it now then. Guess I'm out of here to avoid spoilers :(

>>55395644
So what, if they split the party was Vecna just going to gank the group without Vex?

>>55395658
We don't know, but I would assume something along that type would happen.

As someone who started playing during 2e edition I think every single person on here sperging out on this shit needs to fucking chill and go find real life stuff to care about as much as they care about this.

Because it's just a fucking game, and you literally sound exactly like what my own parents sounded like when they "harrumphed" and frowned at me for playing D&D in the first place, and you are so far up de Nile that you are drowning in it if you lack self-awareness so much that you can't even see it.

I demand that Vax Hastes and Double sneak attacks at some point before this ends.

>>55395424
There were SO many shitty players playing D&D before even YouTube fucking existed.
I mean how fucking new ARE you to this? This board on the subject of D&D has been FILLED with irrational spergy shitlords with zero social skills and somehow even less rationality or self-awareness since for-fucking-ever.

>>55395594
Needs of the many, man

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>>55395768
>>55395795

When the fuck did Vax die AGAIN.

I cant wait till this crystal is a keystone to Vecna and half them end up in front of him

inb4 that crystal is glued to the wall

Poor Matt clearly wants to be a leader but is still stuck as Grog.

>>55395812
I don't care if people don't like it (didn't find it too funny myself), but I just REALLY hate hypocrites.
Especially ones who go around blathering about how new kids ruin their hobby like they heard their entire fucking lives and suddenly they lack even a drop of self-awareness about the subject.

You get old, you die, and new kids replace you doing the things you did; it's called LIFE, motherfucker. Either learn to deal with it or take the express checkout system so we collectively don't have to listen to the same bullshit from our generation that we heard from the prior one.
Bullshit like that is why I'm convinced that despite the stereotype of "nerds being smart" most nerds are just as fucking dumb as everyone else, because they do the exact same shit everyone else does. They just have not-popular hobbies and are dumb instead of having popular ones and are dumb.

>All this work for something they have NO IDEA what will do to them

>>55395906
Grog's player is Travis. Matt is the DM.
But yes, you're right.
>>55395918
It's what they do.

>>55395874
I missed the first chunk of the episode, are you talking about something that just happened or did one of the players reference him dying?

>>55395918
its shiny so Laura wants it

So I've watched maybe the first 7 or 8 episodes of this (I don't remember exactly which) and I've gotta say, itsl's profoundly... ok. Like, not bad, the characters seem fun enough, and of course Matt Mercer does an amazing job DMing, but as a show, I can't say that I either love it or hate it.

Does it get better? Or should I just not bother?

>>55395935
show is legit good

>>55395935
If you start on Episode 24 and then skip the episode "Path to Whitestone" you will get an idea if you will ever enjoy it

>>55395935
Honestly, it's just okay in my opinion.
Good instruction for the new kids as a way to dip their toes in the stuff if they want to give it a shot, but beyond that it's shruggable.

A lot of streamed DnD games are heavily rail roady.
Crit-Role, Role-Play, even smaller ones like Anime Campaign and the Unexpectables. Rely on that format.
But here is the thing that's not a bad thing. When you are playing a game to entertain people it's important you have some kind of story structure. I have run sandbox games and they do not lend themselves well to a week by week gaming format. They require 2-4 weeks prep before big events or complete improv which can be inconsistent and shit.
Anyone who complains about these DnD podcasts being rail roady has never GM'd or done a shitty job at it.
Even if these streams don't reflect what a typical game is I like them as great improv radio drama's.

>>55395614
Sigil.

>>55395935
It does get better around ep.24 and so on. Whitestone ark (15 or so episodes of dark vampire-hunting subterfuge) and Dragon Ark (world-spanning series of events) are damn good. Parts after that, IMO, are meh, but still better than the first two dozens episodes.

>>55395935
Kraghammer arc is ehh. Story, sound and picture quality go up as the episodes go on.

>>55395658
Matt has done that to them before, so yes.

Fucking Liam

It's a shame Shadow of War looks like P2W trash (I liked Shadow of Mordor for what it was)

Neat to see them get a big sponsor tho

God Matt must be fucking dying right now

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>>55395967
>They require 2-4 weeks prep before big events
I think you're just overthinking things anon.

I can't get on the stream, what has happened since the start?

>>55395230
>(Unless they are swingers, and if so more power to them).

If I could put a bullet in you, I would.

>>55396101
Well if you have no job and nothing outside of game prep it could take a week. Or if your just using modules then I suppose less than that.
But as someone with a full time job already that is generally the time it takes between games for me to be confident.
Even then though there is a lot of shit you need to have down to run a sandbox good game.

>>55396136
>Lots of dicking around
>Liam almost died
>They stole some crystal from a church and threw it in the bag of holding with no clue what if anything it does
>Now they are flying through a big cave and it seems like they are going to be getting close to the top

>>55396151
>Giving a fuck what consenting adults do with their bodies when it will in no way effect you.
Ok friend.

>>55396155
But anon I have a full time job and run a sandbox game for my group even stream it too and at most it takes like 3 hours of planning with frequent breaks.

I'm legitimately confused what would take you so long. Are you trying to take into account every single action your PCs could take?

>>55396202
I'm generalizing, in terms if I am doing back to back planning and nothing but that I'd say its more 5-7 hours, but I break it up over the coarse of a week. Sorry if I was unclear.
But my point is if your say someone with a extremely busy schedule and little free time. Planning a bunch of various plot threads your players may never reach is a incredible waste of time especially when your going to be streaming for a group of people who want to be entertained.

>Like a jeweler analyzing a... jewel.
Shit Sam, it was so bad it was good

>>55396202
Care to give a noob gm tips on running a sandbox? I'm starting a campaign soon on an island so I can keep it contained. There are several factions and I don't know who the players will side with, so I've been trying to flesh every one of them out. Is that not good?

>>55384068
Where are the black people?

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>>55396331
The best sandbox trick I've learned is asking what my players are planning on doing next session. It's something I've picked up after GMing Shadowrun for a bit and it's honestly really helped how I run games with a looser plot. This still lets them steer the plot how they want while giving me time to flesh things out for them.

For factions I start with a small number like one or two and add the rest later based how the story goes, if the PCs latch onto any particular detail, or as foils for the PCs actions. You can also "cheat" and have the players start the game already aligned to a faction and let them, within reason, design the faction.

Try to go for a wide spread of NPCs, and if your players don't attach to them in a session or two let them fade away and move on. If the NPC entertains them or gives them some sort of advantage they'll stick with them.

Don't try to plan out every possible thing your players do. Paint in broad strokes and be flexible for the little details.

This might not work for everyone but I've had great luck with it.

>>55396380
Who cares?

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>>55396380
In prison.

>>55396451
>>55396455
I'm constantly told those guys are super sjws and it's just a bunch of nerdy white people.

>>55396472
Geek and Sundry most definitely are. You'd pick up on this pretty quickly if you follow any content outside of CR. Take Shield of Tomorrow, their Star Trek RPG, for example. The XO has pronouns that you have to use in chat when referring to them or be banned. Or Ashley's Signal Boost, where she whined about wage gap and other stupid shit. Thankfully, CR itself tries to remain apolitical, with varying degrees of success.

>>55396472
They are, and they are.
>>55396498
> Ashley's Signal Boost, where she whined about wage gap and other stupid shit
Well, when you make your living making fiction, I suppose you'd be unable to figure out when something is fake.

>>55384068
They are good enough to be background sound when at work for me
Who is the podcast version of them only up to episode 40

>>55396498
Jesus. I've never actually listened to them but that sounds pretty fucking awful.

>>55396428
Thanks a ton, anon! As for the NPCs, how much work do you put into fleshing them all out? Doesn't it sting if you put in a ton of work, and then they just fade into irrelevance?

Are they dead yet?

>>55396583
No, but the sphere of annihiliation just showed up

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>>55396566
You just need a few basic things at first; a physical &/or personality trait, maybe a stat block if they're going to need to roll something. If the PCs keep coming back to them you can expand on them. Random NPC tables are a dime a dozen or you can write your own so you can very quickly come up with NPCs on the fly.

>>55396620
Inb4 Travis is beyond relieved that he can end grogs existence by jumping into the sphere. All without the party being able to revive him. He then proceeds to roll a wizard and stomps Vecna, ending the campaign on a high note.

What are the best non critical role dnd podcasts?

>>55385558
Bait. Not even good bait, and yet here I am.

>>55396921
Rollplay is fun.

Just got here. What's the situation? Are they fighting Vecna?

>>55396982
>thinking they're going to actually make significant progress today

oh sweet summer child

>>55396991
I want to believe.

>>55396982
They're fighting some Vecna mooks with some decently high levels in Wizard and were getting owned by a Wall of Force until Sam rules lawyered his way past it (Dimension Door shenanigans) and broke the Concentration on the guy having the Wall up.

>>55396943
It USED to be fun. Or maybe that's the nostalgia talking. The only things I could stand were the Dark Heresy games, and those went off rails so hard that the GMs quit.

>>55396921
Thrilling Intent is good for a while. The End of the Ohonerant Arc isn't that great but it's got a few great waifus like "Don't, Firi, and that other girl with the scar who should start being relevant any time now.

>>55386639
If this isn't pasta, this absolutely should be turned into pasta.

You fucking turbo nerds.

>>55386639
>a Netflix special that they can pause at any time
But you can pause Netflix at any time too.

>>55397153
It's been pasta for months. It's not even funny anymore.

>>55386287
Replace "CR - Critical Role" with "CR - Challenge Rating" and you summed up my experiences with DnD/Pathfinder. But to be on topic... the only person I know RL as a Critical-Role--fag is my brother, and he's gotten over most of his obsession with it.

>>55395395
>C.S. Lewis
>implying i wouldn't brutally murder you if you tried to

>>55395909
only a subset of the people who call themselves nerds are really nerds

So I missed everything after break, and it sounds like shit is FINALLY hitting the fan.

What did I miss?

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>this thread

>>55395022
>telling a story CR is awesome

Yeah because let's save the world in the most generic fantasy world ever created from a cliche copied villain sure is great story telling.

>>55395909

You will understand when a small niche-hobby that you love suddenly becomes invaded and changed.

>>55400707
Some people want to live that anon, how hard is it to understand? Sure it's generic, but some people really want to get into the RP of being a Gnome Bard trying to save the world

>>55400952
Not him but I probably won't. Then again I am an adult who can tell people whose interests do not align with mine no when they ask to join.

Just explain to them that the game you are running is going to be like this, and if thats what they are looking for they are welcome to join, and if not sorry no.

For a game with so much social interaction you guys sure seem inept at it.

>>55384153
>Pathfinder
>Hipster

The real hipsters play numale fantasy games like Dungeon World and spend all their money on Kickstarter. Pathfinder is Grognards and Normiebait.

>>55400952
YOUR hobby is not getting changed. Noone's personal hobbies are getting changed by anything or anyone until you allow them to. Play the way you want, that's pretty much the point of RPGs after all.

Neither.
e-celeb shit doesn't belong on 4chan.

>>55395545
god damn.
Grog: I buy a shovel and pick axe.
Everyone else: We go make a cannon/buy chainmail necklaces/get wooden spikes.
Tiberius: I buy 10000 mirrors. I train my dragon to train my dragon. I make 20 sleep arrows (oh? It takes too long? Okay I spend 15000 gold to make 2 arrows that won't affect things at my level anyway!), also i mary sue up and send a message to my father to send troops to help us.

>>55401332
The best part was that Vax did just as much as him, but came prepared and got it all done in one fell swoop. Meanwhile Orion had a million ideas and he kept forgetting and then bringing them up and taking forever. (It was probably the HIV/Cancer meds but still that 15000 mirrors was inexcusable)

Also that "send an army" shit REALLY pissed off Laura to begin with (especially after the weird as fuck comment about getting an erection which was so out of character)

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>>55398538
Hi, I'm Chet from marketing, and it turns out I really don't give a shit, because you both have disposable income.

So can I get all the juicy gossip I can't read in plebbit because there they censor everyone mentioning it?

Was Orion kicked out because he was a cunt? Or the excuse of his substance abuse and he having other plans is real? Is Matt a cuck? What else should I know that is not easily find in the internet.

>>55401658
>Was Orion kicked out because he was a cunt? Or the excuse of his substance abuse and he having other plans is real?
It was a mix of
1. Being an obvious and super obnoxious metagamer in a very heavily RP based campaign (See Ep11).
2. Having too grandiose plans for his character and stepping on the toes of everyone else
3. Having trouble playing (See the shopping incident >>55401405) because of his meds and being miserable

>Is Matt a cuck?
Doubtful, I think people read into shit too much. People seems to think he is being cucked with Taliesin, but I just don't see it. Likely either Taliesin and Marisha are just super good friends who are comfortable around each other, Taliesin is gay, or >>55395230 is true. I don't understand why people care either way to be honest.

>What else should I know that is not easily find in the internet.
Laura is the best girl

>>55401794
Oh come on I want juicy gossip not level headed analysis

>>55393115
>How you gonna throw shade at System Mastery and not mention the podcast name
Didn't want to come across like a shill

>Also it's fucking Gamma World, how are you supposed to be serious about the game?
You aren't, and this is why it's the only play-podcast tolerable to me. They aren't going out of their way to be extra entertaining, they aren't scripting their game, they just play and say dumb bullshit facilitated by the game. Their fucking mutant squirrel is nothing but a comedy of errors starting at minute one. I don't think that guy had a single good roll in four sessions, all the while Squid-Tank is shitting on everything the DM has put in their way. Meanwhile, their third guy is pretty much just there, gameplay-wise, but that's not stopping him from doing a silly voice and having a good time. Shit likes this would never fly with these heavily scripted fuckfests, which is why they don't feel "real". Sometimes when you play a game, your mutant squirrel can't climb a tree to save its live while the fucking tank drives up a vertical rope.

>>55384766
Pirate nothing, I often make use of the quickstart rules companies release for free for their games; I read books my friends have for the games they run, and I support my local FLGS by preordering the games and books I do budget to buy.

Got the piracy bug, for gaming and anime, out of my system back in college.

Now I'm just thinking about this past week's dragon talk podcast from WoTC where they interview Matt Mercer and he kind of harps on what he views as his faults as a DM for a little while.

>>55403024
The dude is so fucking hard on himself. Just look at last week when he was tore up over having to cancel the session due to his sciatica.

I don't like the show all that much but I appreciate the fact none of them really have a big ego even after being on a show that 200-300k views per episode on Youtube (+20-25k live views)

>>55402476
There was a tweet Orion made a few months ago asking fans to convince the CR few to take him back. He made a video telling people what happened (not sure if it was before or after the tweet) and still kinda blaming everyone else for his problems. I could be misremembering a few things but that's about it.

>>55403579
Honestly I wouldn't mind having Orion come back and give it another shot in the new campaign, especially with Ashley probably getting designated as a side character.

Just don't like him play Sorcerer or Tinkerer

>>55403702
>I wouldn't mind having Orion come back
Fuck that meta gamer, also Travis might actually rip him in half this time around.

>>55403767
Why the fuck was Travis so mad about that when they all flirt with her in game anyway? Fuck Liam stole her phone and posted shit last night and Travis just laughed

>>55403896
I forget the exact words but it was far more creepy than flirty and Laura was obviously uncomfortable. My guess is Travis, Laura or both had asked him not to and he did anyway.

>>55403896
It didn't help that it was already a shopping episode so Travis was pretty annoyed already

>>55403988
I'm wondering if he's annoyed more with how they scatter like cats and can't seem to get anything done or just is bored out of mind.

>>55403767
Now THAT I would like to see.

>>55404121
I only hope he takes on group leader in the new campaign. I'm tired of everyone ignore his plans when he has something solid and doable compared to everyone else's. Travis is really nice but he needs to kick their ass into gear more often.

>>55404431
I know Travis has said he likes the idea of the Blood Hunter class that Matt made, of a person who delves into forbidden knowledge to combat the evils of the world, walking that fine line between fighting the creatures and becoming them. I think the class itself is a STR/DEX - INT one to act as a melee DPR. But this time he'll actually be able to contribute to battle planning.

My personal hopes for next series is the following:

> Taliesin
Warlock or Wizard.

> Travis
Blood Hunter or EK-Fighter

> Liam
Ranger (I doubt he can play it not edgy though)

> Laura
Cleric (probably War or Tempest)

> Sam
Paladin (I think he likes being the face but doesn't want to deal with a full caster after Scanlan)

> Marisha
Monk (get her onto something a lot simpler than a Druid, please).

My guess is Ashley will guest spot for a few months whenever she's not filming Blindspot, and will play a Paladin or Ranger. I think she likes having some healing but wants to be in the front lines more often than Pike usually is.

>>55405042
>Marisha
>Monk
She'll be dead more often than alive, champion fighter would work better for her.

>>55405093
You say that like her character dying is a bad thing.

Honestly I think she just can't handle playing a spellcaster class, which basically restricts her to Rogue, Fighter, Barbarian, and Monk. I doubt she'll make a Rogue unless she wants to be edgy, Fighter won't let her roleplay outside of combat (which you know she'll try to do), and I think she'd dump INT super hard if she went Barbarian. Which is why I went for Monk.

>>55405139
Not saying it's a bad thing, but she'll think she's playing her druid and able to face tank damage. I like monks and don't want her to make them look worse then people think they are, even though they're decent if your not an idiot.

>>55405042
>Talisen
Honestly, Taliesin is pretty diverse so I can see him pull off any type of class, all I ask is that it is anything that is the opposite of Percy, as he is a pretty solid Role Player and I think a change of pace would be interesting to see.

>Laura
A Tiefling, Sorcerer, Warlock, or Paladin would not be too bad. Again anything that is not Vex would be pretty cool to see.

>Ashley
Fighter, Revised Ranger, or Barbarian. Not sure what race though.

>Liam
A non-edgy Monk, Swashbuckler, Fighter, or Cleric.

>Marisha
A Barbarian, Fighter, Swashbuckler or a Warlock.

I believe that her issues stem from having too much on her plate and not really being able to play to her strengths, these classes are not too tough and fit her a little better IMO.

>Travis
Eldritch Knight, Swashbuckler, Blood Hunter, Wizard, or Mystic. Someone with some tactical knowledge and brains would suit him well, similar fashion to Taliesin I would like him to play something that is completely opposite to Grog.

>Sam
Wizard, Sorcerer, Mystic, Warlock, or Swashbuckler. More control or something where he can continue to have fun just being him.

>>55405242
Taliesin has the most experience with tabletop games of anyone at the table, so he can definitely pull off anything and make it fit the group. I just think given his inclinations so far (tending to favor the schemers and smarter people), he'll want to go Warlock or Wizard.

> Travis playing a Mystic
God, that would be amazing to see, just him killing people with intense stares and firing mind bullets.

>>55405366
>>55405242
I hope he doesn't go Warlock, but if he does, I hope he goes Archfey, as that would be something I'd love to see played up for what it is- cruel, manipulative, evil fuckers.
Marisha should be a Barbarian, full-stop. One not necessarily tied to nature though, or at least one that doesn't give 2 shits about the forest.
Liam I feel is leaning toward and would work well as a Cleric, but I swear if he goes Raven Queen I'm going to give Kim Jong Un Geek&Sundries' address and say it's the White House.
Travis is a fuck yes on anything with intelligence, though I'm 90% sure he's going Bloodhunter, as you can see him pop a boner every time Werewolf is mentioned in the current campaign.

Op here, thanks for the great discussion guys, learned a lot.

Anyways, without wanting to sound like a shill, anyone here listen to "Revival"? I find it oddly enticing, despite not enjoying the setting too much. Good characters.
https://youtu.be/kcOdwIqNs3A

Travis = blood hunter
Liam = cleric
Laura = sorcerer
Marisha = barbarian or fighter
Sam = ???
Talisen = ???
Ashely (guest star) = barbarian

not saying this is what I want, just what my gut tells me they'll do

>>55409096
Assuming that your list is right, they'd be lacking a martial DPR (as I think Marisha will go Totem Barb.), which I think Sam would enjoy being. Which leaves Taliesin to be whatever the fuck he wants, which is arguably the best case scenario for the next campaign.

Travis plays the badass Simon Belmont monster hunter, Liam probably plays an edgy Cleric of the Raven Queen, Laura probably plays as one of the Aasimar babies they rescued while in the Nine Hells, Marisha plays whatever (no one cares as long as it's not a caster), and Ashley plays someone claiming to be Grog's son/daughter, which no one believes because it's Grog. She actually is, and only Travis is in on the joke because he agreed to it and wants to be battle buddies w/ Ashley the entire time she's there.

>>55409593
It's sad because they won't do anything nearly as cool in reality. It'll just be Marisha picking wizard and Travis picking a sub optimal rp class. Then the CR stream will fizzle into non existence over the next year with a disappointing finale.

>>55384068
>How do you feel about Roleplaying games becoming pop culture?

Super butthurt. I don't like that these people get to have dream jobs and I don't. Ree, etc.

>there are people who actually still watch this show in the 9th month of september in the 2017th year of our lord

i legit dont understand how people can still find this shitty show entertaining. none of the characters are good and are RPed like shit, mercy is a lack luster GM who only knows how to talk well and do voices, and the plot is boring as fuck. seriously someone please tell me what the appeal is

>>55410443
I swore Marisha has gone on record saying that she only picked Druid because of the one-shot aspect of the original game, and it was more so to explore the Druid class as a whole one last time, as she'd done it before for a couple games run by another friend that Matt, Marisha, and Taliesin have, and just couldn't get acclimated to the class.

Just... I don't care what the rest of the cast picks. For Marisha, anything but a caster, please. I don't think I even want her on something like a EK, Paladin, or Warlock because she'll get paralyzed with options other than, "smack it as hard as you can."

>>55410607
For many people it's their first introduction to D&D, and they get to see it being done by a group of voice actors and theatre people who can roleplay better than probably 75% of normal players.

>>55410865
This is correct. None of them expected it to turn in such a long-running campaign.

>>55410890
>a group of voice actors and theatre people who can roleplay better than probably 75% of normal players

is this b8?

>>55410965
Other things to note from said home game:

- Travis and Laura arrived late due to traffic, but Laura had worked with Liam ahead of time on the twins angle. Travis didn't look at the resources emailed to him by Matt ahead of time so he asked for, "something that'll let me smash shit really hard in fights."

- Taliesin originally rolled up a Dragonborn Paladin for the one shot, but when people got bit by the tabletop bug and it turned into a home game asked Matt to let him switch over to the Gunslinger.

- The home games were roughly once or twice a month but lasted a lot longer, usually in the 6-10 hour range, and everyone drank a lot more then compared to now. Even Matt drank, which he rarely does on camera now.

- Matt running the game in a high-magic setting is probably due to the game's roots being in Pathfinder, where it was expected that players would get magical items early on and scale them into higher levels.

- Percy's Pepperbox gun was enchanted by a NPC mage who was also starting to develop firearms of their own, but that got dropped when they switched to 5e and consolidated everyone's backstory for the start of the show.

>>55411139
- Marisha wasn't originally a player, instead she was a co-DM helping Matt guide such a large group, most of whom were brand new to RPGs at all. It was only after they decide to turn the one-shot into a campaign that she joined. Even then they expected the game to fizzle out after a few sessions, especially when sessions were once a month, so she picked something outside of her wheelhouse just to try it.

- Ashley wasn't in the first few games, and joined later on, after the campaign was already well underway. Matt invented Pike's backstory and ties to Grog whole cloth to bring Ashley into the group quickly.

>>55403702
Respect, the others have probably earned it through friendship. Orian is a creepy fuck. Everyone one else can pull off funny, he's just a fucking crack head.