Competitive Modern General

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Any fellow Gx Tronfags running Emrakul, the Promised End? I initially ran her for kicks but after awhile I realized I really liked her - I've found that she performs admirably against combo and control (both of which were prevalent in my local meta up until a month ago), and is at the very least serviceable as another hard-to-deal-with fatty in other matchups.

>>55351864
>her

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>>55352050
Emrakul is a legendary creature that always appears female in the story and wizards always refers to her with female pronouns. Wouldn't you refer to Thalia or other legendary female creature as a her?
Also she is my waifu pls no bully.

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Does anybody know a good Hatebirds list? I'm interested in playing Favorable Winds.
>SaffronOlive's list
I don't want to scoop to Chalice and I know that White has useful birds, also Birds of Paradise is a card. Although I admit Psionic Blast looks surprisingly useful and I do like the idea of playing a non-Red burn spell as a gotcha card.

>>55351537
>not posting the updated version

>>55352221
Thalia is a girl tribe card

>>55352221
Eldritch horrors don't have genders. Fuck wizards

>>55352473
this is the "Real" version now

i just saw ad nauseam combo on the original under "wincons should be surprises" and got confused

>>55351537
This sorely needs updating

>>55353012
This desu

Still playin Tezzeret. Tested Shackles but I realized most of the time when I cast it or Whirred for 3 I would have rathered it be a bridge and dropped it.

>>55353012
>Fuck wizards
Can I fuck the eldritch horrors instead?

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Reminder that Shaun McLaren is LITERALLY /ourguy/

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Need some opinions. Thinking of doing some altered art cards. Mostly as a source of money for this hobby. I'm mostly looking to see what the general opinion on altered art cards is, how easy it would be to actually sell them, and what would be good staple cards to do.

I'm planning on mostly doing them in the style of pic related, with more or less detail. Mostly just pen and ink style since it seems like the most fun for me. I might also do some border extensions with paint as well. The first test set I was thinking of doing was a set of basic lands. Just taking a full art, erasing the middle and doing some black and white illustration.

I'd also be following wizards rules for league alters. So cant cover up the name, cost, rules text, and p/t. The art also has to be relatively close to the original as well so that its recognizable. So if its goblin guide it should have a goblin on it.

>>55355531
Looks nice, I would buy that in an unglued mountain frame or something.

>>55351537
im in the anything else
i play coalition victory

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>>55355594
I was thinking of leaving the frame in pic related and doing it in the middle, but removing the whole frame and just leaving the bit at the bottom wouldn't be too hard.

>>55355901
That would also be sweet, your linework looks great so the only question and the make or break part is coloring.

>>55355901
>>55355531
How do you do this? Do you glue your drawing onto the card? Do you cover the card in correcting fluid and draw on that?

Gearhulk should drop price when it rotates out of standard right?
Kinda want one for my mono blue tron

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>>55355981
That one above is a random one off of google. I'm decent enough to do relatively similar though. Pic related are some of my early unfinished alters from before I quit. They're not done and there's a few mistakes I could have fixed, but they're from a couple years ago.

The set of pens I was looking at comes with a number of acrylic based pens. I would like to pic them up but its like $80 for a decent set. I'd like to start with B&W to see if I can actually move them before diving into it. I'm also putting together burn so I don't have a ton of money to invest into other things. Let alone things that might not actually pay off.

>>55356093
Some people do the glue method but I don't like to do that. You can actually erase the image of the card with an eraser. In particular 'Ink' erasers like Dixon's Pink'n'Ink or Stadtler's Duo Plast. After that lightly sketch out what you want to do with a pencil, trace over it with pen, and erase away the pencil marks after the ink is dry. You can also free ball it but thats risky.

So what are some cheap modern staples that a lot of people use? Things like lightning bolt that see play in a bunch of decks.

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I haven't played in a year and I'm thinking about hitting up some Modern tournaments and maybe even a GP.

Is Affinity still worth playing? If not, what is?

>>55357300
>Is Affinity still worth playing?
good news robotard, your deck is still top tier

>>55357349
thx m8, I'll be sure to keep playing it to piss people off

>>55352473
You know, you could probably mask duskmantle mindcrank as grixis control pretty easily and still win around turn 6.

Does iconic look like it has enough value to warrant buying a box?

>>55358898
No, unless you want to hold on a bunch of baubles for 10 years.

>>55358898
stuff like AV and Cryptic are at rare if you want to try your hand at a box

>>55356811
Lightning Bolt, Lingering Souls, Path to Exile, Serum Visions, Opt (a new print coming soon), Mana Leak, Fatal Push, Monastery Swiftspear, all come to mind.

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>>55357300
it's gotten possible upgrades depending on what ur "colors" are but it's still stock oppression

>pic only kinda related

>>55359385
I was actually thinking of some jank mono black with thoughtseize and/or fatal push, but that seems spicy

>>55351537
Which of the following can be built on a budget:
>Pyromancer Storm
>Eggs
>Vigor Bloom
>Mono-U Tron
>BW Tokens
>D&T
>Cruel Control
>Duskmantle Mindcrank
>Scepter Control

>>55359430
Bw tokens is nice on a budget if you have the right tech

>>55359430
That image in particular is outdated so I wouldn't give it to much thought. Most of the the images in those types aren't very good desu. Out of those decks you listed the only ones I can recommend would be
>Baral storm since pyro storm is outdated ~500
>D&T ~ 580
>U Tron ~450

All of them are already relatively cheap compared to the rest of the format so you should be fine unless by "budget" you mean like $100 bucks.

>>55359611
Would there be ways I could build them for less and slowly upgrade? Also, is there any deck that uses Grave Titan?

>>55359639
Depends on your budget which you should probably have stated in the original post. If you don't have a lot you might be better off just saving for a little while and then buying in, especially since those decks are relatively cheap. There aren't any good competitive decks that use grave titan in modern.

What's the cheapest way to buy cards other than ebay? TCGPlayer looks like it has the best prices.

>>55359430

Build owling mine

>>55359750
What's that?

>>55359831
A terrible meme deck

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>>55359840
Not with this spicy new tech!

>>55360017
Sure thing champ.

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Just ordered a playset of Invasion Opt. Looking forward to all those pretend-OCD memester tears

>>55360171
What's wrong with the card?

>>55360171
Nothing, but some people get pissy when you use non-Modern borders on cards in Modern.

>>55359750
I hadn't heard of that deck, but it looks like stupid fun.

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UB zombie hunt jank: 1 or 2 infestations in mainboard? runing 2 kathari remnants cause im short one treasure hunt atm. also, what are some spicy lands that are not manlands? thinking about a desert package, maybe be able to sideboard splash some of the other colored ones by playing survivors encampment and painted bluffs.

Keldon Megaliths is good additional land damage/removal, so maybe call this "grixis zombie hunt in the desert"?

>>55360434
Cole? Run 2.

I'm new to modern. Is there a way I could build around Metalwork Colossus/Salvage Titan and mana rocks/artifact stax/tax pieces?

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>>55360451
>salvage titan
Here's my pet deck that uses salvage Titan, it usually goes 2-2 but it's a ton of fun.

>>55360542
How important is Mox Opal? Because the rest of that deck looks pretty cheap and fun to throw together. Also, Crack the Earth is great.

Updated my shtibrew after some playtesting, gunna take it to FNM this week.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-08-17-mogis-control/

Any ideas for me?

>>55360571
Mox opal creates a lot more keepable hands, but I have tried configuring it without mox opal before. I'm not exactly sure about the numbers, but adding some number of darksteel citadels, springleaf drums, and replacing frogmites with memnites is probably the way to go. If you want to go maximum jank you can also build 100% manaless affinity, but then you don't get to play slag fiend. My attempt was -4 mox opal -3 memnite, +2 signal pest, +2 mountain, +2 faithless looting, +1 springleaf drum.

>>55360649
Consider Mind Stone, Talismans, or Signets?

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>>55360820
I'd be very cautious of adding any rock that costs more than 0 mana, because the goal is to vomit your whole hand out on turn 1. However, I'm pretty certain that there's a budget deck waiting to be discovered involving atog, atog2 (ravenous intruder), and stuff like ichor wellspring.

>>55360893
I've tried brewing a budget deck using Auratog, the Ordeals, and Hatching Plans.

>>55360447
lol nope, not that guy. dang i though i was the first guy to think of this since everyone does the UR landshock version.

i was thinking i only need one zombie infestation main unless i know someone is running counters, but better safe i guess. also quicksand and cabal pit for even more removal. its funny, this deck is so structurally bare bones jank you can make it any way you want it. need counterspells for some reason? just use muddle the mixture! you can search for hunt if you dont need it! splashing a few cards cant hurt it if you use the right ones.

>>55361138
>cabal pit
This is the modern thread kiddo

>>55361177
oh whoops. forgot to check

>>55359430
You could make a shit-version of BW Tokens and Mono-U Tron for around $40-$60 or a decent base version for around or less than $100. They can be upgraded piece-by-piece.

Holy FUCK does this game hate you if you don't fork over the cash. Even this "budget" $40 RDW deck is getting my ass handed to me because some chucklefuck got his hands on that God-Pharaoh artifact that lets him bring out 4/4 haste tokens every fucking turn. Goddamn. How can I outspeed that shit?

>>55362265
That all sounds good to me. Where should I start for each?

>>55362786
Sideboarding artifact hate :^)

>>55362810
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-95-36-tix-modern-white-black-tokens
Inquisition of Kozilek and Stony Silence should be in budget range.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-mono-u-tron-modern
Replace Crucible of Worlds, Wurmcoil Engine, and Snapcaster Mage with other cards. You could try going away from Tron and just make a Mana Rock ramp deck ft. Metalworks Colossus.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-95-30-tix-modern-mono-blue-colossus

You could check out others.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/decks/budget/modern#paper

Tell me what kind of deck you want, what you want to do well in, and what you don't mind having difficulty against.

>>55362932
>what kind of deck you want
Something slow-paced and resource-based, especially if it has interesting card interactions/room for tech
>what you want to do well in
Controlling the pace of the game and having consistent mana supply
>what you don't mind having difficulty against
Fast combo/storm, maybe slow control?

>>55356811
>>55355531
I think you'd do better making counters and tokens. I'd buy an energy token in your style.

>>55362985
Try U tron

>>55363071
I already have a Solemn Simulacrum, at least one Condescend, a Dismember, a Fabricate, a playset of Thirst for Knowledge, a playset of Expedition Map, and a Mindslaver. I used to have playsets of the Urza lands, but I traded them off because I didn't think I'd ever play outside of commander again, and not competitively at all.

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What deck should I play if I want everyone I play against to tilt and hate me? Especially if they get more frustrated the longer the game goes.

>>55363109
lantern

>>55363121
Lantern is only boring against shit decks like tron, burn, jund, and merfolk. Control and tempo matchups with lantern are insanely fun.
>>55363109
I would recommend turbofog, because 1. it's a shit deck 2. your opponent has to wait it out to see if you whiff 3. its only good against a narrow type of deck

>>55363150
>merfolk
>shit
Say that to my face fucker

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>>55363150
>tron
>shit
Say that to my face fucker

>>55363150
>Control and tempo matchups with lantern are insanely fun.
Eh, those tend to skew in lantern's favor. The slower a deck is, the better lantern does.

The only control decks that lantern I'd say has a disadvantage toward are stuff like Sun and Moon, though that's largely because Chalice really fucks lantern. But Sun and Moon is arguably as unfun to play against AS lantern, so...

>>55363190
>T1 Pithing
Your move rustbucket

>>55362932
I'd also like a deck that could use Sun Titan, Grave Titan, or Chancellor of the Annex. I just really like those cards. If there's not a decent deck that uses them, that's alright.

>>55363203
Not him, but drop a different planeswalkers T3/4, drop a wurmcoil T3. Karn isnt the only finisher.

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>>55363203
>trying to interact with tron
just kill them

>>55362985
For Budget
>Nevermore
>Mono Blue Colossus
>Enchantress
>Trading Post Tron

Otherwise go with U Tron.

>>55363228
Sun Titan has
>Emeria Control
>Pan-Meria

Grave Titan has
>Mono Black Panharmonicon

>>55363373
I like the sound of Mono Blue Colossus, Enchantress, Trading Post Tron, the Emeria builds, and MB Panharmonicon.

>>55363396
Look at their lists and keep in mind the meta you are in. If you are facing a lot of Stony Silences (perhaps Affinity is popular there), then make sure your sideboard is filled with answers to them. If you are dealing with a Storm-heavy or Dredge-heavy meta, then make sure that you have more graveyard hate than usual.

The only budget deck I've actually played was Stake Sisters, and that was because I like the idea of winning with joke cards like Norin and Genesis Chamber. Also my meta was full of Burn and Zoo at the time.

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>>55363190

>>55363485
Most popular decks around here last I checked are Burn, "we wish we still had Twin", and various mono-color Tribal decks.

>>55356811
Most of the time alters are done on a commission basis, people don't usually buy random alters online. Start doing alters on cards you already have with art that interests you, build up a portfolio and post it online to facebook or something. Then you can start getting people to commission you for alters. Lookup Klug alters for an example.

Don't start buying staples and altering them, you will almost certainly lower the value of the card and lose money.

Will ticking up my Ally of Zendikar trigger my Auriok champuon/Soul Warden?

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>tfw blue staff will never make it onto the flowchart
whyyyyyy

>>55363682
no

>>55363686
Blue Staff?

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>>55363742
B L U E S T A F F

Okay so can I actually win shit in Magic Online or is it just one big meme because their scheduling stuff makes it seem like you can actually participate in Draft Open and win shit and I'm starting to wonder whether if I should really get involved in this game since Konami has decided the players don't matter for YGO.

>>55363824
What is Blue Staff?

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>>55363109
Take your pick, my child.

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>>55362985
>Something slow-paced and resource-based, especially if it has interesting card interactions/room for tech
>Don't mind losing to Fast combo/storm, maybe slow control?
It sounds like you need to play Martyr-Proc my dude.

After Ascendant gets reprinted in Iconic Masters it should be pretty cheap to run the deck without Crucible and with a budget manabase.

>>55365080
How important are Flagstones and Cavern?

Sucks that Modern seasons almost over

>>55365171
Cavern is just a hedge against counterspell decks and Chalice. It's worth running because it's tutorable with Wayfarer, but it's not mandatory.

Flagstones are good because they increase the effective plains count for Emeria, and fetch the Mistveils, but the deck works fine without them.

As a cheap Martyr-Proc manabase I might run:
16 plains
2 Mistveil Plains
2 Emeria
3-4 Ghost Quarter

Is forest Belcher even a fun meme or am I going to be wasting my time

>>55365471
I thought is was fun to play on Xmage for a day or two, then it got boring

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check this shitty deck
have a giggle
it's all good

I'm thinking of building a jank Kiln Fiend deck. Am I stuck in UR? is it even any good?

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Field of Ruin
Land
T: Add ◊ to your mana pool.
2, T, sacrifice Field of Ruin: Destroy target nonbasic land your opponent controls, each player may search his or her library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle his or her library.
I like it

>>55366286
Can see me replace a couple of tectonic edges for this on D&T

>>55365080
I don't like new Ascendant.

>>55366265
Yes, you're stuck in blue red besides mutagenic growth and apostles blessing.
No, it died with the probe ban.

Anyone have good Burn sideboard guide? RDW seems more difficult than I thought

>>55366830
That's a shame, I sold all my shit back in the day and I've been looking to get back with an old collection of a friend of mine. The only actual deck I have right now is Disciple of the Vault/Atog deck and I'm pretty sure it's not as good as it was when it was made. Anything I can salvage from that?

>>55366286
Better than quarter if you have the mana.

>>55360635
Bump?

>>55366913
-bad cards
+good cards
Lava Spike is the first thing to fly out in 99% of matchups, replace with interaction. I mean seriously, it's the most intuitive deck to sideboard in all of Modern.

>>55366286
Should be 1 mana desu

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Anyone know what happened to cardboard crack? He hasn't updated anything in months.

>>55367134
>taking out spikes instead of rift bolts
Gitgud

>>55367394
It really depends on the match up.
>>55367134
Is correct here. Take out the bad put in the good.

>>55367394
Rift Bolt can be pointed at creatures and goes around Chalice, get rekt shitter.

>>55353012

Yes, neither do spiritual entities but people refer to god as He and they refer to earth as Mother

No reason emrakul couldn't be She especially since her method of injury is a lot less like a man (non violent, passionate and psychologically wounding, stockholm syndrome esque, has an obsession with being loved/worshipped)

>>55366929
You could always play pauper friend, izzet kiln fiend is decent there
As for your other question, I don't know. Budget decks to get into the format are mono red burn and green stompy. There are also others I can't remember

>>55364188
Its funny this combo can be interacted with if they fuck up by not making enough mana to play around spell pierce.

>>55367524
I don't really mind budget, I was looking for something I'm familiar with since last time I played was the Ravnica block. I was hoping I could make something that isn't just going face and was hoping there was some way I could update my old shit.

>>55367566
Check out mtggoldfish's budget magic stuff. He proves that jank can work.

Coming from standard playing blue white monument, is there a way to have it not be shit in modern?

>>55367922
U/W spirits or bant spirits. U/W control. Modern isn't that fast of a format if you have permission spells. Monument might be viable. Who knows because bitter blossom is a card that was banned.

>>55367922
There's also this.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-70-20-tix-modern-monumental-quest
You can play other colors, but it's best if all the creatures are at least white.
UW Spirits has a competitive advantage of tempo-flash and removal fizzling.

>>55368031
>>55368088
Thanks guys.

>>55368088
I liked the idea of that deck, but the quest package felt really clunky to me. I also toyed around with a red splash for Stoke the Flames, since the creature tokens have vigilance anyway.

>>55359430
Summer Bloom is banned, but Bloomless Titan still exists. No clue how budget it is, though.

>>55360427
Personally I try and use the original printing of a card wherever possible. My Tron is as old-border as the deck can get.

>>55369242
>not just using the best art the card has

Older Opt looks good, but for something like Path, I like the other arts way better and run a playset of Guay's.

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>>55369548
I guess. I just enjoy my style of pimp.

Just sold my entire MTGO collection except for pauper Affinity.

The interview with Marshal basically said "we're canning MTGO if Arena is popular" and I'm not taking any chances. I'm fine with playing paper modern and killing time with pauper for a year or so.

>>55370976
You make any money on it or did you break even?

t. Sold out for $200 profit months ago

>>55370976
Link to interview please

>>55370976
Moving a database isn't hard you know.

>>55371002
I probably made no more than $40.

>>55371023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTpG5ldVx4

It's long, and the first twenty minutes is talking about cube, but it's there.

>>55371037
Neither is making a client that doesn't look like it's coded in C from the 90's. This is Wizards, I trust literally nothing they do digitally.

>>55371103
They made Duels be an excellent introductory program that's also aesthetic and user-friendly at no charge to the players.

>>55371130
They not only haven't released full sets, but also dropped support after only 2 years. Yes it's technically "free to play" but people put a ton of time and money into it, just to be scrapped for their new project.

If I were a Duels player I'd be very upset.

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>>55371130
>They made Duels be an excellent introductory program

It was full of gamebreaking bugs like a 1 mana enchant giving your lands infinite mana, people could abuse the timer to stop the game forever and there was 1 hacker that has been reported with video and screenshot proof to both steam and wizards dozens of times and was never banned, duels was pure garbage.

And I forgot they didn't implement Emrakul because it was too hard to code.

>Neither is making a client that doesn't look like it's coded in C from the 90's. This is Wizards, I trust literally nothing they do digitally.

They have a big financial interest in MTGO, if Arena is successful I fully expect them to move over it and code in modern/legacy/vintage cards.

>>55371263
>They have a big financial interest in MTGO
Thing is, if Arena has a /bigger/ financial interest, then the resources get moved accordingly.

It's so simple:

Wizards keeps coming back to MTGO because it makes them the most money. Wizards keeps letting all their other digital products die because it doesn't make as much money as MTGO. If Arena makes more than MTGO, MTGO will be left for dead, ESPECIALLY if people who play Standard and draft on MTGO make the switch, dwindling MTGO numbers more. And this isn't taking into account new players (which is this marketed towards) who will bolster Arena numbers more.

MTGO's life depends on whether or not Arena is shit, because I guarantee you (and history shows) that Wizards isn't interested in keeping to big digital platforms afloat.

>>55371103
>Neither is making a client that doesn't look like it's coded in C from the 90's. This is Wizards, I trust literally nothing they do digitally.
MTGO looks simple and fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBVKDzti4TI
This looks like overdesigned trash, it's vomit inducing

>>55371964
>MTGO looks simple and fine

MTGO is clunky as fuck and not fine at all.

>>55371263
There's nothing wrong with C

>>55372071

Compared to everything else its solid fucking gold. It could be much better, but it's not terrible.

>>55372071
Nice meme
It could use some improvements but it's pretty fine

New player here

When cards leave standard, do they rise in price, drop in price, or neither?

Also, for cards like Thoughtseize and Bloodghast, how much should I expect those prices to drop when the Iconic Masters reprints come out?

Thanks.

It turns out literally any retard can win with even the worst tron deck because windmill-slamming down turn-three Wurmcoil Engines and turn-four Ugins makes up for the rest of a piece of shit deck or player.

https://youtu.be/_N_WQZBGjXE?t=15m50s

>>55373052
Leaving standard means these cards only have a few playable formats to go, right? Modern, Legacy, Commander, Vintage(?) or someone's collection, unless a card is mildly or heavily played in one of those formats, their prices will always drop, if a card hasn't found a home in a deck in any of those formats, they will drop in price a lot.

Cards within that price range you mentioned usually lose between 20-45% of their price, when there's a lot of stock the older versions prices get cut before the reprint and the prices are at their lowest at most the following 2 months of the set release date, then they start slowly climbing to a "middle ground" between the lowest price and their price before the reprint.

>>55373132
Thank god Tron exists to keep autistic shitbrews from the meta.
If your deck isn't prepared for Tron it doesn't belong in modern. Stay mad.

>>55373514
every tron and titanshift player i met irl smell like shit

Does anyone get tilted about hearing some obnoxious pro whose expertise in Modern is limited to some top64 in a GP no one cares about talk about what's the "best" deck(s) in the format? The whole point of Modern is that its such a fucking shitshow there's no set metagame equilibrium at any time and thus no deck with the best overall win percentage vs the field.

>>55373514

This is a tron shitbrew though.

Tron has BECOME the shitbrews.

>>55371964
I dunno, I don't see much that's really objectionable other than the dino-playing guy's Magic skills.

>>55373636
I don't know why you need a pro to tell you that DS is the best deck.

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>>55351537
>saving up money for a modern deck
>playing decks on xmage to see what ones i like.
>try dredge
>sideboard had LoS
>play agents a burn player
>loose game 1 and side in >LoS
>instantly concedes and we go to game 3
>i chill while he bitchesabout hate cards in the chat

He seemed nice at least...

>>55373714
It's not?

>>55373729
It is. Name a better deck.

>>55373744
Well there's-

...oh you're right.

>>55373744
Titanshift, Eldrazi Tron, Burn, Storm, UW Control, Affinity

>>55373664
How is it a shitbrew?

>>55373876

>Trash for Treasure
>Pyromancer's Goggles
>Banefire

...what constitutes a shitbrew, if this isn't a shitbrew?

>>55373822
Not that guy but Affinity and Titanshift are the only other better decks. The rest simply win the matchup.

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>>55373876
>How is mono red tron a shitbrew?

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Can dinosaurs PLEASE be a thing in modern??

>>55373978
Not with that one drop it won't.

Looks decent for standard.

>>55373715
It blows my mind that people still complain about that specifically about modern, yeah, there's a ton of graveyard decks really strong that fold or lose enough tempo to lose the match against grave hate. A single thragtusk or kitchen finks can stop burn on it's tracks if it didn't exactly god draw, add other life gain effects and without skullcracks burn will most certainly lose too, the same can be said about a bunch of other strategies, if you finished building burn, which I'm not even sure that guy did since it's xmage, he should be aware and prepared for LoS, period. It's like some people want to play modern relying heavily on a single strategy and demand that no cards should be able to stop them.

>>55373920
>>55373947
It has an effective and doable game plan. How the fuck is that a shitbrew?

>>55374493
>bunch of winmore do-nothings instead of actual tried and tested payoffs like Karn, Ugin, Ulamog and Oblivion Stone
>effective
>doable
I mean christ just watch mtggoldfish' video about it and count the times he'd win by drawing cards that do something.

>>55373220
>when there's a lot of stock the older versions prices get cut before the reprint and the prices are at their lowest at most the following 2 months of the set release date
Not the guy but this is exactly the information I was interested in.

>>55373978
Why is "be a thing" such a prevalent expression in /tg/ circles compared to the general population?

And why is it especially prevalent among retards who think wacky shit like dinosaurs vs pirates is "awesome"?

>>55374616

But anon, it DID have Ugin. It just had a bunch of other crap in there for lulz because Tron is an unfair deck.

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>>55376060
He lost multiple times when he could have won with any normal Tron deck, that makes it a shitbrew anon and I'm sorry to tell you this as a shitbrew enthusiast.

>>55374914
Go get those sweet Darksteel vials my dude.

Newish player here again

I'm upgrading my previous version of my Mono Black deck with Thoughtseizes, Surgicals, Phyrexian Obliterator, and Relentless Dead. I kinda feel like I have too much removal and discard now, and Ghost Quarter might just be bad in this deck now. I could use some advice, Thanks.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/758398#paper

>>55376998
Play Nykthos, Shrine of Nyx instead of Ghost Quarter.

>>55373220
>prices are at their lowest at most the following 2 months of the set release date
In this limited sets, it's actually 3 weeks, as seen in the MM cases, at least in Europe

>>55377097
Forgot to add, usually it's at the forth or fifth week that the prices start to increase since there isn't enough offer to compensate the high demand.

>>55371263
If I knew for certain MTGO would be scrapped for Arena I'd sell out, even if I was promised my cards would transfer over. There's no way buying those same cards will cost as much as they can be sold for today from MTGO.

>>55376998

I like putting some number of Evil Presence and /or Contaminated Ground into the mainboard/sideboard. Lots of decks have greedy mana bases and turning off colors can stop a deck in its tracks. Contaminated is not quite as good as Spreading Seas, but at the same time taking 2 damage to tap the land every time can be relavent. They enchantments also feed devotion.

Do open drafts require a buy-in?

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>>55365924
Alright, so currently it whiffs by like 2 cards mainly due to the lands but other than that it works. Gonna trim some fetches, maybe a plains, for 2 more cycling deserts. swapping beneath the sands for another resounding wave (bounces cycle lands to hand to not whiff), and cutting 2 haze (probably hieroglyphic illuminations for now )

Feels like it has potential for shitbrewage, and combo-control is funmode. The worst part feels like the lands, the limits of New Perspectives on the landbase. determined to make it work without running Shadow of the Grave because fuck gravehate.

If anyone knows a creative way to work the landbase I'm all ears

I am a relatively new player coming back. Which of the following would you run? I used to play splinter twin and haven't really played constructed besides edh since the ban
U/R Storm
U Tron
Merfolk
Burn
Affinity
Scapeshift

>>55366286

For that cost it should either not need to get sacced or it should hit basic lands. What a garbage fucking card.

>>55380050
I think in G/W CoCo/ghostquarter.dec it might be sweet as additional copies of ghostquarter that can also do some tricks for yourself with Courser etc

>>55379688
Storm, Affinity, Burn and Scapeshift are all tier 1

U Tron is fun

>>55351864
I once used her to make my opponent sacrifice his whole board to his arcbound ravager. My opponent promptly scooped.

I think she's underrated, but not amazing. It requires a lot to use her right.

>>55380534
What is this meme?

Are any of the gods, Theros or Amonkhet, playable in Moderns?

>>55380569
Rhonas has performed admirably for me in mono-green stompy and I've seen him show up as a 1 or 2-of in some CoCo decks and even Bant Eldrazi.

>>55380569
Hazoret is super good, people are just sleeping on her. Play her in Jund or Burn.

>>55351537
Anybody got some spicy Lantern Control tech?
I just started fucking around with the deck and I'm really enjoying it but I want to see how far I can deviate from the known decklists before it goes to shit.

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>>55354705
>i sphinx rev for a thousand and beat off all over my elspeth soldier tokens
yeah nah

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>>55366330
dont be a retard, homie. that card is awful.

it turns on turn 3 and taps you out for the pleasure of a symmetrical ghost quarter. takes hitting drops until turn 5 to play it through your own arbiter to make the extra text relevant and THAT taps you out, too. fuck, dude. if you were going to go through all that you might as well just play tec edge or fuckin' encroaching wastes.

the whole rest of your deck disrupts tron just fine and 'turn 3 take you off a color' against greedy bullshit like shadow is a losing proposition because you might just not have an aether vial to do anything else on your 3 if you're tapping out to do this. if thats your turn 3 you've probably already lost, honestly.

How do I convince people that taking God-Pharaoh's 7+ inches of big black zombie dicking is fun? I keep getting mean looks when I whip out my deck against the newbies.

>>55381558
Thanks for using this name, it surely makes your post look bette.

>>55376778
Eh.
>tfw was into Magic at the time and bought many Mirrodin packs but didn't like Darksteel and only got 1 (one) pack
I didn't even get a good Mirrodin rare, for fuck's sake. Lately I've been thinking that the vendor mapped the boxes because out of all the packs I bought the only hits I got were Infernal Tutor, Blood Moon and Bloodstained Mire.

>>55377097
>>55377129
Precious info, thanks.

Can you study this trend from the mtggoldfish diagram? Or from the magiccardmarket one?

>>55381558
I can see it being useful against Tron. Doesn't look that bad

Are there any cards that you wonder aren't played in modern?
>Vryn Wingmare
>Elder Deep-Fiend and other Emerge creatures
>Forked Bolt
>Non-Jace Flipwalkers (can combo with Goryo's Vengeance)
>Ulamog's Nullifier
>Misthollow Griffith
>Eternal Scourge
>Herald of Kozilek
>Athreos
>Quicksilver Fountain
>Flashfreeze

Can anyone think of any other cards that might have potential?

>>55383390
I've seen flash freeze and forked bolt on some sideboards

>>55383390
Vryn wingmare and thalia 2.0 are 1 mana too slow to get the job done.

>>55383021

Turn 3 is too slow versus Tron, if you're on the draw. Turn three is when they windmill slam Karn or Wurmcoil, then on your turn three you're going to play a land that requires you to tap out to attack one of their lands that already played a threat?

where is the Saheeli poster

i need more images of them destroying Modern

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/chicken-soup-for-soul-sisters/

How's my souls sisters deck looking /tg/?

>>55383917
I do notice Scapeshift and Grixis decks in my meta being the plurality. Should I try Flashfreeze in sideboard? What does Flashfreeze also do well against? My other hate card is Ceremonious Rejection as Affinity and Tron hate.
I ask about Forked Bolt because I see Electrolyze in budget Izzet decks a lot. Forked Bolt seems very efficient against eliminating dorks.

>>55384096
I ask about Vryn Wingmare because I'm considering making a Bant Hatebirds deck. I know Wingmare would be slow, but Birds of Paradise, Mausoleum Wanderer, Judge's Familiar, and Spell Queller would allow me to tilt the pace of the game in my favor.

>>55384937
Not good.
Suture Priest is fine as a SB card against go wide strategies but it shouldn't be in your mainboard.
Replace them with Squadron Hawk.

>>55385004
okay sounds good

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I don't know how things went so wrong so fast. One moment I was 100% competitive and now I'm a shitbrew. Coping with this change will be difficult. Since I'm playing with Whirs, Ratchet Bomb might be better than EE, right?

>>55384965
Flashfreeze is probably pretty decent against burn, 8 whack and GR Tron. Haven't tried it though

What is the best sideboard card for abzan company against burn?

>>55385365
Flashfreeze only hits Sylvan Scrying in conventional Tron. Worldbreaker is devoid.
My meta definitely has Burn and Storm, but I like Dispel since it also snuffs Fatal Push and Path.
Affinity and Eldrazi Tron are also in my meta, which is why I have Ceremonious Rejection.
Death's Shadow, something Grixis, and Abzan Delirium are played, which is why I'm considering Celestial Purge as Path 5&6.

>>55385471
I'm using Burrenton Forge-Tender.

>>55385471
Sanctimony is hard to deal with, but you can't CoCo into it.

>>55384965
Thalia is better than wingmare. You only need one on board to abuse the advantage anyway, more is just overkill.

>>55386547
You only need of that effect!? Dude, you are dumb as fuck. If there was was another playable thalia effect at 2 or less we would most certainly play it in addition. The effect can lock games in multiples.

Random question, but why doesn't thrun see more play? Dodges most removal, doesn't die to most sweepers like pyro and anger, and the few that do hit him he can just Regen. The only thing that hits him are edicts, and some sac effects like Lilly, but you can just sac a Mana dork or something.

>>55387139

Simple: he's not a fast enough clock that comes down early enough. Goyf can come down sooner and can be bigger. While Thrun is hardier, aggro decks want creatures that come out swinging quicker than he does. In Modern, by turn three you're staring down either an Ugin or a Grapeshot.

Why would a deck like Titanshift that folds to Blood Moon not run Blood Moon hate mainboard? I'm not that frequent of a modern player but I was thinking really hard about playing a turn 3 blood moon into open red and green mana. I ended up doing it and I won off of it and afterwards my friend told me that they don't run any type of hate for it so there's no reason to think about it in that spot.

Seems real questionable to be willing to drop game 1 to it regularly. Even the old rug scapeshift lists ran some amount of permission.

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This looks pretty ok

>>55388185

It comes down to which would you rather play, Echoing Truth or Perilous Voyage. Both have pretty conditional upsides.

>>55379688
i would run merfolk or titanshift
people dont really 'pack hate' for it, i dont like storm/burn/affinity because i dont like getting silver bullet'd.

>>55388185
Nah thanks, vapor snag/echoing truth are both better.

I'm just getting into Modern, been borrowing a friend's Gruul stompy deck to play, and now I'm trying to build my own deck, hopefully including the Fatal Pushes and Collective Brutalities I've got from standard. A friend recommended 8 rack, but I'm not too psyched for buying 4 LotV.

I tossed this together instead. If anyone has tips on improving it, I'd appreciate that. If not, any advice on how to make 8 rack work without Liliana?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/759212#paper

>>55388335
>Fatal Pushes and Collective Brutalities I've got from standard.

Look into b/w tokens, b/w death and taxes.

>>55388335
>>55388361
BG Tron also plays those cards.

I've seen some abzan company lists running fuliminator mage in the sideboard, does this card do enough against tron/scapeshift to justify including?

>>55385471
Your 4 maindeck Kitchen Finks. Forge tender is great, Eidolon of Rhetoric is okay too.

>>55374469
it was my first time playing it too.

dead thread

>>55391377
new thread
>>55391438
>>55391438
>>55391438
>>55391438

>>55391452
>haven't even hit bump limit yet
What the fuck are you doing retard?

>>55388015
Because blood moon isn't prevalent enough in the meta to warrant maindeck hate even if it does hose the deck. They usually have something in the side for it though.

>>55382901
It was mostly from memory desu, specially when I was told to wait 2 months to buy MM3 cards and while I was waiting, started to see price increases after just a couple of weeks in, forgetting g it had limited printing. But we'll check websites like that to conclude.

>>55383390
Eternal scourge is played in Skred depending on the build.

>>55388185
Probably better than Echoing for Modern.

>>55383021
By the time you're using this against tron you'd have better things to do.