Why is gonzo fantasy so hated nowadays?

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>>55351289
People are worried that it makes them seem immature, so they dress the fantasy up with gritty 'realism', adult language, and real world issues to convince other people, and to an extent I expect, themselves, that it can be a 'mature' genre.

>>55351289

It's not. Some people like it, some people don't, that's how it's always been.

OPs like these are almost the classical form of the logical fallacy of begging the question.

>Why are houses made of bread?
>Why is my opinion so true?
>Why is OP not a fag?

>>55351289
The average layperson thinks they know enough about science and technology that gonzo settings are today viewed as more implausible than in the past. 50 years ago, the idea of walking on the moon was ludicrous to most people.

Regular fantasy dominates because "a wizard did it" invites less criticism than "a machine that seemingly defies Newton's laws did it".

>>55351289
It's also easier to work with, mechanically speaking, stuff that's more realistic because we have a frame of reference to build off of.

>>55351380
Or ,you know, aren't so socially insecure and infantile that they can get entertained by guarantee omnipotence and safe space.

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Gonzo has always sucked.

>>55353675
False.

>>55351289
What the fuck is it?

>>55353972
That's Gonzo the Great.
Are you actually so uncultured as to not recognise a Muppet?

>>55354000
He may mean what is Gonzo fantasy which is a decent question. My definition of "Gonzo" anything is a work that embraced the surreal and ludicrous with an earnest zest that demands attention

>>55354092
PS: on that note

>>55351289
JoJo is pretty popular Op

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>>55351289
Fantasy stories about people offering incoherent social commentary while high as fuck?

>>55353660
That's not what gonzo means you gigantic dumbass

>>55353972
http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/2015/04/just-what-fuck-is-gonzo-gaming-anyways.html

>>55351380
Fpbp

>>55355920
>therpgpundit
I don't trust this man

>>55356089
Agreed, he seems like a cunt.

>>55351289
Because the pig and that damn frog got their side of the story out first!

>>55356203
Agreed.

>>55355920
So it's just a pile of thematically asymmetric things treated as normal? What's special about this? I feel like I'm missing something, because this explanation has failed to show the difference between regular fantasy shit (which is just weird shit we've gotten so used to, it no longer seems weird) and 'gonzo' fantasy shit (which is weird shit that's...unexpected?).

>>55358407
it just means crazywild over-the-top

>>55358407
Have you ever read xanth? Or Discworld? Kinda like that.

>>55351289
Because it's really hard to genre - smash while remaining good.

>>55358586
Lemme smash. Please.

>>55358613
Only if you're a cute girl (female).

>>55352313
>50 years ago, the idea of walking on the moon was ludicrous to most people.
50 years ago was only 2 years before we actually did it.

>>55353660
You're an idiot.

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>>55352313
>50 years ago, the idea of walking on the moon was ludicrous to most people.
This particular piece of literature is from 1865.
The author also had pretty good idea about submarines, biological weapons and couple other things

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>>55351289
It's not, Gonzo even got a bigger, zanier part 2.

>>55359207
>Pathfinder compatible
Instantly ruined. Or perhaps instantly fixed Pathfinder?

>>55359279
3rd Party Pathfinder stuff is actually pretty legit in a lot of cases. Like it's unreal how much better the game gets if you ban Paizo classes and just pull from 3pp, or shit just ban Paizo core classes.

Gonzo is good as far as PF material goes.

>>55359279
What >>55359337 said. Ban the usual PF stuff, run a game of Henshin Heros, Atomic Adepts, Sparkle Princesses, Multimen, Ungermaws, Croupiers, Guides abd more. Also replace the WBL with mecha for everyone.

>>55353675

He's not as good as Rolf, Sam, Kermit etc, but he's better than Fozzie.
I'd put Gonzo firmly middle of the pack.

I will say he'd be nothing without the chickens, though.

>>55351289
>Why is gonzo fantasy so hated nowadays?
Anything that remotely smacks of lulrandumb is often reviled and despised, as it should be.
Even if it is an established setting.

>>55351289
Because people realized Gonzo would never feel the same way about them unless they were a chicken.

>>55353972
Is Spelljammer gonzo?

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>>55351289
Lazy and inconsistent. audience no longer take 'It's magic' as the end all of worlds anymore

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>>55351289
It requires a sort of whimsy which is frowned upon in current mainstream roleplaying culture.