/swg/ - Super Meiloorun Brothers edition

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I'm in the process of making a google drive with all the FFG items as datacards. Yay? Nay?

Check it out here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-JX5GvKHuwJTU9fMmtMX1VGT2M

>>55347135
>my semi-shitpost became an edition
naisu
but seriously what's the fucking entertainment in the star wars universe other than holochess, gambling, and violent esoteric sports
no wonder they're at war all the time, shit

>>55347180
>but seriously what's the fucking entertainment in the star wars universe other than holochess, gambling, and violent esoteric sports

They like to listen to Jizz
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

>>55347257
>jizz-box

Jesus christ star wars was a mistake

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>>55347157
Pretty cool, you might also get some use out of this site-
http://swrpg.viluppo.net/

>>55347180
To be fair, we've only really seen what the space truckers, fringe elements and criminals have for space entertainment. I'm sure the upper classier space traveller has a better selection of holonet, music, hardcore rodian pornography and pro-imperial soap operas.

Hey, so I'm getting into old EU/Legends and I am looking for some recommendations on what to read next. So far I've read the Thrawn Trilogy and the Dark Empire Comics both of which were pretty decent.

What should I read next? Any specific recommendations on what to read/avoid?

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>>55347787
>that spoiler
we middle class rebel-scum can only afford softcore rodian pornography

>>55347312
the fact pablo wants jizz dead and buried killed any respect I had for him
Him being an utter cunt later comforted me in that decision

>>55349557
>Him being an utter cunt
What happened?

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>>55349543

not sure if want

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>>55349543
Luke wasn't going to Tosche Station for speeder parts

>>55349702
Man if Mos Eisley was a wretched hive of scum and villainy, I don't even want to imagine what the nightlife of a podunk like Tosche would be like

>>55349773
>, I don't even want to imagine what the nightlife of a podunk like Tosche would be like
Moonshine, stolen gas station beer, and that cousin of yours who ain't very good looking and has weird ideas from shit she's read, but who's still wet and willing.

>>55350037
>cousin
Shit like this? Shit like this is why we need The Empire

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>>55350352
You think that's bad? Fuckin' Rebels, man.

>>55349584
anon's very sensitive

>>55349584
Standard crap that happens with any given nerd presence on twitter.
Why shut down for the day when you can have a whiny PA meltdown because too many people asked what color Greedo's arms were that day.

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>>55349608
Beats danny devito on the left there

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>>55349773
Y'all talk real purdy, muss be from sumwhere fancy like Anchorhead?

>>55349702
>wanting a cleaning lady that always smells like swamp ass
Odd combo.

>>55350037
A little too real

>>55350382
How do you recover from your first passionate kiss turning out to be your sister
no wonder he's so fucked up in nu-canon

>>55348256
Read Black Fleet Crisis but skip every luke chapter

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>>55348256
>read next
In no particular order:
The X-Wing comics and novels
Tag and Bink
The Stele Chronicles
The Farlander Papers
The Han Solo and Lando Calrissian novels
Courtship of Princess Leia
Tales of the Jedi
Jedi Prince
Skippy the Jedi Droid
But save the Hand of Thrawn duology for the absolute last. It's best read as a farewell to the Bantam era of Star Wars books.

What are the best ships to get in X-Wing that are good with the stuff thats comes with them?

As in, I don,t need to buy a bunch of other ships I will never use but have to because I need the upgrades that come with it to make what I actually want to play viable

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He's back. Starkiller II and Ewoks confirmed for Ep 9.

>>55351758
FUCK

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>>55351758
>Ewoks
Don't get my hopes up like this, anon.

>>55351758
So I'm sticking to non ST stuff now, gotcha.

>>55351655
TIE/fo

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>>55351758

>>55351655
TIE/fo, TIE Aggressor, Imperial Veterans.

I only play Imperials though, so I'm not super sure.

I could probably mail you a handful of cards though if you really need stuff. Did you just get started? What do you have?

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>>55351758
God fucking, fucking, dammit. Arqnwikj;lwjfaionvgailok;n;ejan. *rage* God the sequels are going to end up being worse than the prequels, and that's a goddamn accomplishment/miracle/travesty/how-in-the-actual-fuck-did-you-do-that?

I hate Abrams. I hate him because he is just so goddamn mediocre. He has no sense of the worlds that he's doing movies in, and has no goddamn sense of scale for anything. Rogue One didn't have that problem, which shows it's him and not just modern film making. One of my friends' friends who had never seen Star Wars before asked if it all took place in one solar system after seeing VII. He honestly has no fucking clue what a space-faring civilization would be capable of, and so he never should have gotten into sci-fi. Seriously, two federation starships blasting each other to bits around the moon draws no response from Earth Spacedock? What in the actual fuck?

And that's the hell of it. It isn't going to be straight bad. It's just going to be so utterly bland and mediocre and have no bearing with previous continuity.

I need a fucking drink and it's 9 in the morning.

>>55351655
TIE Aggressor, K-wing, HotR, Punishing One, Protectorate, Shadowcaster, Quadjumper, TIE Striker, TIE Phantom if you can source a copy of VI from somewhere.

>>55351758
NO

>>55347180
From the previous thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE

The holochess is literally just a REMEMBER THESE! thing. They'd rather cash in on the nostalgia than create something unique (or are forced to cash in on the nostalgia).

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>>55351758

>>55347135
What's a good wingman for Fat Han in the current wave?

Do you run Expertise and Gunner (62) or Predator and Luke (63)?

I'm just re-buying my collection now and thinking of showing up with a Fat Han.

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>>55351758
time to kms myself

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>>55352608
Now we know why Galen has a zipline.

To try and escape these feels.

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>>55351758
Aw fuck

>>55349557
He doesn't really want it dead, he just has a good laugh about it now and again.

I remember bringing up the new use of "Jatz" in later legends and NuCanon material and asking if it was a "Replacement for the old music name that shall go unmentioned" or something. I got an in depth history from him and Trautman about how it's all KJA's fault.

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>>55352789
I wonder how did that happen in the fist place, was jizz not a wrod back in seventies?

>>55352894
It was, heck it only got invented in the 90s by KJA, and Trautmann tried to warn them from putting it in anything else, but by then it was too late.

>>55352943
oh, wow

>>55348256
Personal recommendations:

Read:
Crimson Empire I
Legacy (main arcs)
Jedi vs. Sith
Tales of the Bounty Hunters
Outbound Flight
Jedi Prince

Play:
Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series
KotoR 1 + 2
X-Wing
TIE Fighter
X-Wing Alliance
Rogue Squadron series
Starfighter
Galactic Battlegrounds (if you like AoE style RTS)
Republic Commando video game

Avoid:
The Force Unleashed II

RepCom novels (unless you're super into Clones/Mandos)

The Dark Horse "Star Wars" (basic title) comics

Crimson Empires II and III

>>55353207
Avoid TFU 2 but watch somebody walk through the Cato nemoidia casino and then watch the space battle cutscene.

>>55353207
TFU 2 is fine, it's not as good as its predecessor by any stretch of the imagination but if he has 4 hours to kill why not play through the campaign

>>55353353
>it's not as good as its predecessor
Its predecessor set a pretty low bar. Its predecessor set the bar so low it makes TFA look like a vibrant and original addition to the franchise.

>>55353428
Do you even like Star Wars?

>>55353433
Not him, but he's pretty much right. The first one didn't set a high bar, and the second failed to even come close to matching the first. The fact that they litreally said they were going for "quality over quantity" yet still failed to match up to the experience of the first speaks volumes to the "quality" of the second.

>>55353485
I'm not disagreeing that TFU2 was a shallow experience but to say that TFU was TFA levels of bad is exaggerating

>>55353518
I (and many others) disagree. The narrative was pretty painfully dull, and the gameplay was literally God of War for 5 year olds.

>>55352535
I had really good success at a local tournament with Predator/Luke Fat Han and Norra Wexley with PTL/BB-8/Tail Gunner/Alliance Overhaul

I would suggest changing BB8 to R2-D2 and either leaving Crew Empty or downgrade Luke to Gunner

>>55353518
TFA looked pretty cool when it had the X-wings flying over the lake. TFU was nothing but QTE prompts and AotCYoda tier flips and twirls.
In TFA motherfuckers who got hit by lightsabers died. In TFU motherfuckers who got hit by your nerf bat farted little green balls out.
Everything else about TFA was unremarkable and bland. TFU was straight up bad bad. Coruscant police with lightsaber pikes? Imperial guards just sitting around on Kashyyk for no reason, just stroking their lightsaber pikes? Leia being a strong independent pilot woman who don't need no man? That convoluted bollocks about the Rebellion being a ploy by Palps to draw out his enemies and he still fucks it up? Telekinetic vader jesus boss battles? Imagine you were in the meeting when these ideas were suggested.

It's a tad silly in R1 how Leia leaves Scarif and still plays innocent when Vader catches her in ANH. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous for her to have been present for the formation of the rebellion, captured, rescued by a freakin' jedi and THEN have her play innocent in ANH.

Liking Star Wars is something we all do. Liking a bad GoW clone that not only has to contend with being a bad GoW clone, it has to contend with being a bad jedi game when Jedi Outcast/Academy exist, is something only a select few would even consider.

>>55353988
To be fair, Leia has been able to pilot starships since Splinter of the Mind's Eye. She at least knows how to handle a Y-wing.

>>55353988
Jedi Outcast/Academy have awful lightsaber combat mechanics. At least with TFU you feel like you are actually in control and not just flailing about wildly while your engine that was designed for FPS contorts itself to try and accommodate you

>55353988
>Palps to draw out his enemies and he still fucks it up?
Kind of like how he did and Endor. Your points are all valid though. It is an assine idea.

>It's a tad silly in R1 how Leia leaves Scarif and still plays innocent when Vader catches her in ANH
It actually isnt at all. What she is doing is high treason and could result in the execution of her and everyone on her ship just to begin with if caught. Not to mention she does have the DS plans and she needs to do whatever it takes to make sure they arnt taken back. So she bluffs, its unlikely to work but what else is she going to do? Admit to Vader she is a member of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor?

It is unlikely to work, but of course she is going to try it, it would be stupid not to. After all, its not like the Empire had proof she was at Scarif.

"oh but Vader saw her at Scaif." No he didnt. He saw a CR-90 Corvette, but that doesnt mean it was the same CR-90.

The Rebels are trying to bluff that the Empire failed to ID their ship at Scarif. If the Empire failed to ID them at Scarif there is a possibility, though unlikely, they can successfuly argue case of mistaken identity. Notice Vader doesnt say "I have proof of you being at Scarif." It is because they failed to get the ID, but Vader doesnt give a shit because he has the Force and knowns this is the ship, so he doesnt bother with the bluffs.

>>55353988
I have no idea how I fucked that up.
>>55354305

>>55354271
>Jedi Outcast/Academy have awful lightsaber combat mechanics.
Those games had excellent lightsaber controls. Just because you couldnt figure out how to get the lightsaber to attack from the angle you wanted it doesnt mean other people couldnt do it.

I wish TFU had half the control of lightsabers you had in Jedi Outcast and I liked TFU (1)

>>55347157
That would be pretty fuckin awesome of you, anon.

>>55354305
>Notice Vader doesnt say "I have proof of you being at Scarif."

Because the movie happened 40 years later?

>>55354518
Ya thats the reason out of universe. Thats not the reason in universe.

>>55354548
he is very sure she has them though. I mean, if i was leia id definitely try to play up the innocent thing too, its really her only defense

>>55354609
Exactly. Leia has to play up the innocent thing. Just because she is playing it up doenst mean Vader will believe them.

He may not have hard proof tying her to Scarif but he has the Force to guide him on top of other things like the Tantive IV being at the end of the hyperspace jump the Devestator made but he is confident it is her ship and its not like he needs proof.

Oh well, at least Lucasfilm is back up to production levels, so Bad Robot won't shit the bed on half the designs in the movie.

>>55353207
you forgot Empire at War with either of the following mods:
Thrawns Revenge
Awakening of the Rebellion

>>55354843
Remember that little robot bird?

>>55354872
I try not to.

I still can't believe they just remade the shitty RotJ Mon Calamari masks when Lucasfilm had made an amazing animatronic for RotS.

>>55348256
To add on to what the other anons have said, also read the Darth Bane trilogy.

>>55354864
>finally a non alpha release of Remake
>filled with a dozen different ships each doing the same job for each faction

I know that Star Wars is a rich and fleshed out setting but do they really need 4 different anti fighter corvettes and 7 different smaller star destroyers that all do the same thing? I'm looking forward to ICW's purge of redundant ships in later versions, though it's nowhere near as bad as other mods for it.

>>55354864
>>55355230
Remake?

ICW's later versions?

I'm a bit lost. Did ICW split of from Thrawn's Revenge?

Also I only seem to recall the Empire of the Hand and New Republic having Corvette Bloat.

I did think that the Enforcer-Vindicator choice was always a hard one to weigh, the Enforcer was supposed to be a Vindicator that they figured out how to do better by sheer accident when removing the Gravwells from Interdictors, but they give up all their fighters for what, a handful of extra laser cannons?

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>>55355581
Seems like a solid anti-freighter/gunship fighter

>>55355513
ICW is Thrawn's Revenge in this context. The Creator uses Thrawn's Revenge as a loose term for all his SW mods so ICW is Thrawn's Revenge, Ascendency for Sins of a Solar Empire is TR2 and Fall of the Republic, which they've just started working on for EAW, is going to be TR3. Pentastar are losing the Lancer in favour of the Raider I think but all imperials still get the carrack, strike and MTC and all of them still basically do the same shit but some are uglier than others.

Remake is a mod that aimed to just take the normal game and make it better. Better models, graphics, probably the best missiles of any version of the game, and a few new units. A few new units went a bit too far. The empire get pretty much every star destroyer type and Zann has clone wars era fighters, the lucrehulk, venator and valiant class star destoyers and then the Kandosi. While the Kandosi is fucking badass the rest is just kinda redundant.

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>>55355581
>A-Wing with linked HLCs.
>HLCs
>LaughingSienar.holo

>>55354339

I feel like the best Lightsaber dueling videogame is still the vs mode in SW:Episode 3.

That game made Greivious an awesome bastard to deal with first.

>>55355814
That was a pretty good game I agree. Been a long time sense I played it though

>>55355664
In my version of Thrawn's Revenge the Remnant only gets the Lancer, and the Pentastar only get hyperdrive IPVs. (This makes it almost impossible for the AI to capture the Alderaan graveyard because Lancers are too big to chase fighters through the asteroid wall so you can basically just park all your fighters and corvettes there to harass the enemy fleet as they try to circle around the asteroids, then the Golans to get to the station.

Unless they drop an Executor class you can usually run away with your own capital ships fast enough to hide them past the asteroids near the golans.

>>55355814
That always did look like a pretty decent game. I don't have the systems for it and haven't found an emulator.

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>>55354843
yes, lucasfilm is so much better

>>55355914
Other than going all out with the hand-feet I don't mind the At-Ape-T

>>55355898
2.2's due out soon. He's playing through the Shadow Hand GC on his youtube (CoreyLoses) and they've done some awesome work with campaign scripts. Taking out Skywalker as the remnant actually gives you Skywalker as Palpatine's apprentice in that GC. Once they release that version I'll be reinstalling it and probably never bothering with any mods ever again (until Fall of the Republic).

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>>55355581
I see your HLC A-Wing and i raise you a Y-Droid Fighter. Essentially a scavenged Astromech with combat software hard-wired into a Y-Wing frame married to TIE Droid panels

>>55355581
crazyenoughtogetusallkilled/10

>>55356308
that is some damn good photoshop work

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>>55356425
It's not a photoshop job. That's a Cut N Paste job i made in MSPaint from this...

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>>55356482
and this

>>55351225
Just finished reading Black Fleet Crisis.

Alternatively, only read the Lando, Fifth Fleet, Yevethan, and Admiral Drayson scenes. Read the rest on Wookieepedia.

Its a boring fucking slog of one conversation scene after another. The bad outweighs the good by a large margin


>>55348256
Rule of thumb is you can't go wrong with Zahn, Stackpole and Allston
Han Solo Adventures
Lando Calrissian Adventures
Han Solo Trilogy
Truce at Bakura
Courtship of Princess Leia
X-Wing (books, comics, vidya, just soak it all in)
Tales of the Jedi comics
Darksaber

>Avoid
The Crystal Star. Its got some fun stuff, but its boring as fuck for most of it.

>>55356482
>>55356499
is there an album of these schematics anywhere?

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>>55356724
Various WEG d6 sourcebooks had black & white diagrams as well, but nothing collected together.

the hungry ewok has what you need

>>55356724
I found them by googling [Ship name] schematic

>>55351758
FUCK

>>55356513
>Courtship of Princess Leia
Did anyone actually enjoy this? Han is written as a massive beta and Leia dumps him for some horrendous Marty-Stu

>>55357026
I think a lot of people liked it. I personally HATED the book. Han just saying fuck it and kidnapping Leia was really fucked up, which had the added result of Leia hating Han for the whole book taking away any enjoyment I could get from the book.

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>>55357026
That book is a bundle of crazy space fun, comedy, romance and rancors beating the shit out things.

>>55357026
>>55357089
>>55357102
The book's initial intro with the fucking mindrape gun was terrible, but the rest of it was pretty damn fun.

>>55357026
The only bad thing about the Wraith Squadron books is that they lead into that turd.

>>55357026
CoPL is pretty much a cheesy romance novel set in a Space Opera setting.

>desperate spurned lover kidnaps his love interest away from rival who seems better in all ways
>rival rides out to the rescue
>desperate lover and love interest goes through adventure
>rival catches up to desperate lover and love interest
>they all have to adventure together to survive
>desperate lover goes all chivalric and decides love interest and rival are meant for each other
>desperate lover does something stupid and/or extremely dangerous
>love interest realizes too late that she really loves the desperate lover and not the rival
>love interest rides to the rescue
>que happy ending

This formula is a bog standard action/romance trope that hollywood milked a lot in the 40's and 50's

>>55355581
Should be a single ventral centerline mount to leave room on either side of the cockpit for side-firing proton torpedoes...

>>55357089
Leia is also horribly written, she's incredibly disloyal to Han for someone who risked her life and freedom going into Jabba's Palace to rescue him.
Even Luke doesn't seem to give a fuck that his family is about to break up. Han is practically his older brother, yet he seems disinterested in the possible fallout.
I think the shit-cherry on the shit-cake is that Isolder doesn't get outright rejected. He's already moved on to the force-witch by the time Han and Leia get back together, because the writer couldn't have his Marty-Stu lose.
Anyway, fuck that book

>>55357528
Ya basically how I felt. Leia pissed me off and Han pissed me off. Luke seemed like he was in a different story and Zsinj came off nothing like the Wrath Squadron books. (I know they were written later, but I read those books first so it was a shock)

>>55357633
Really? He was slightly goofier in Courtship, but not excessively so.

Lol at how salty people are about Abrams. You guys a proper nerds. TFA was good

>>55357744
Of course it was good. A New Hope was good and it's the same movie.

>>55357744
TFA was acceptable

It would have been really good if it wasn't a rehash of New Hope

Still, TFA could have been worse

>>55357744
You should have posted that in /co/

>>55357744
I can't wait for Episode IX to be a remake of both Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens.

Abrams is a derivative hack who will never be more than a poor man's Spielberg.

>>55357744
I guess they were really excited about the Jurrasic World director

>>55357913
I'd have taken Treverrow over Abrams again. Monkey's Paw I guess.

People have a real pole up the ass when it comes to movies. EP 7 was great and Jurassic World was fun too. Unless it's actively boring or awkward like Attack of the Clones just loosen up.

I recommend it

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Rev up those bingo sheets, boys.

>>55358172
7 was actively boring though
I was like seven when I saw AOTC on a shitty tv for the first time and it held me more than TFA

>>55358200
>Professional Wrestling
Nani?

>>55357913
I wanted Trevorrow gone, but not at this price.

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>>55358317
If you smell what I'm cookin'

>>55354864
>Awakening of the Rebellion
Mah nigga.
Only mod that gets cap ships right imo.
Losing a MC80 in GC feels like a devastating blow instead of a minor inconvenience.

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>>55358317
An old /swg/ mainstay topic, starting with the early days when we still joked about Baron Fel looking like the Rock.

>>55351758

Well, fuck.

Guess we're in for some more ridiculous bullshit and complete misunderstanding of scale.

>>55358172

7 had dumb issues out the ass that couldve been fixed in five seconds if someone half-conscious had been directing.

Disclaimed ; I still enjoyed it, but it had some serious bullshit.
Rogue One was way better.

>>55358624
Before the dark times, before the shitposters

>>55354864
I prefer Absolute Corruption, even if some of the new heroes are shite

FFG dropped the ball with ship modifications.

Aside from starfighters and capital ships, most of the famous Star Wars ships are heavily modified light frieghters. The Falcon, the Hound's Tooth, the Ghost, the Slave One.

But the rules don't really allow for that. The degree to which any two ships of a given model differ are extremely limited, with meaningful modifications left up to DM fiat. Why's there no mechanical framework for retrofitting a freighter's cargo space with a bigger reactor for more guns and shields, to create a covert gunboat that can fly under the radar? That's right up the games' tonal alley, but is left up to the DM for some reason.

>>55360115

Isnt that supposed to be part of the next splatbook?
The mechanic/engineer based one?

>>55351655
If you're just starting out, the Force Awakens Core Set and Heroes of the Resistance will give you a nice Rebel list that's pretty fun and viable. PS9 Poe and Rey with Finn is a great combo. If you're into the Empire, good luck because the meta has been against us for a while

>>55352337
A Defender and Imp Vets are pretty great for an Imperial list. Not too viable but Tractor Beam and TIE/D are amazing

>>55352535
Play Rey instead

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When I run a Star Wars game, it's set in a mish-mash version of the EU that leans heavily on the Droids cartoon canon and the Ewoks movies and is usually set just before Ep4.

I never bothered watching Rogue One. Was it any good?

I need some tips on how to beat Fenn Rau. Ideally with an Imperial list

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>>55360753
RAC with VI, Hot Shot, Gunner, Vader, EU. Throw in a seismic or thermal for fun so he can't chase you if you have the points.

He comes within range 3 of you you shoot him twice and give him two crits. Helps that it's also good against a lot of other things.

I apparently have no art of a decimator. Hmm.

>>55360736
Rogue One was more of a war film in space. Its worst parts are that the characters aren't really all that deep, but the same can really be said of the other seven Star Wars films.

Quite frankly I and pretty much everyone I know IRL thought it was a much, much better film than TFA, and most of them put it in their top two or three Star Wars films.

>>55360736
Rogue One is better than TFA, that's for sure. Its also got some tonal inconsistencies from reshoots, and Jyn and Cassian are terrible lead characters.

Its a great sourcebook of ideas though and the Battle of Scarif is badass.

>>55360784
Never thought about combining Vader and Gunner that way. Thanks! HotCops is nice there too

>>55360823
>rogue one
>top two or three

It's definitely better than TFA and AotC, and probably equal or better than RotS, but it doesn't come close to the original trilogy.

>>55360978
RotJ is a notable step down from ESB and ANH. It's not terrible, but it's definitely where you can see the beginning of the problems that people had with the prequels.

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>>55347135

Any tips for running starfighter combat in D6? I was thinking of putting together a squadron campaign with my buddies.

>>55361022
What problems are there besides the Ewoks? Personally ROTJ is my favorite, even if it's not the best

>>55361152
The ground on Endor does drag a lot, (both before and during the battle) even though I have genuinely zero issue with the Ewoks and actually think they're neat as hell.
Some people also aren't apparently fond that the Jabba shit has basically nothing to do with the second half besides getting Han back but I've never understood that one.

>>55361180
Yeah, I don't get the hate. Plus Space Battle of Endor is easily the best space battle in the saga

>>55361080
Every combat will be one on one or one on two. Per character.

>>55360736
They turned Vader into a dad joke making, rebel murdering juggernaut I'm kind of ok with it

>>55360736
>Was it any good?

Unfunny quips, bad writing and screenplay, and a sense of "we're only doing this for the money" that's heavier than even the worst of the prequels.

>>55353518
>>55353563
TFU is horribly boring to play and the story is the written equivalent of ass butter.

>>55361390
>strangle a nigga over space skype in the most critically acclaimed film of the series
>PSSH, APOLOGY ACCEPTED KID
>people think Vader being a quippy shitbird is a new development

>>55361462
but enough about TFA, we were trying to gauge thoughts on Rogue One

Star Trek Attack Wing has 4 banks and a 6 straight. How do you guys feel about Tie Interceptors and A-Wings having access to these maneuvers? I was thinking of increasing their greens on the maneuver dials as well, A-Wing gets a 6 green straight, and the Tie Interceptor a 5 green straight.

Definitely going to give it a shot for fun in the coming game.

>>55362525
It sounds hella fun either way, hope it goes well!

>>55362525
I almost feel like 6 maneuvers should be red just because the pilot would be pushing their ship to the absolute limit

>>55362723
I might try that too. I just wanted them to be white and green to emphasize that A-Wings and Tie Interceptors are the fastest little shits in the galaxy.

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Why does felicity jones always look like she has a frog in her mouth and she is trying to keep it from escaping?

>>55363072

I'd trap my toad in that mouth

>>55363072
Big teeth. I know her pain.

Can anybody tell me where to find the Mercenary skill tree for the Soldier in Star Wars Saga? I've nearly driven myself insane trying to find it.

>>55360448
Splatbook for which game?

>>55363104
There's a probably a joke about tadpoles in that one, but I ain't going there

>>55364958
Think it was in a campaign guide, but its been so long since I ran saga

>>55363072
Keeps the (((cum))) from dribbling out.

>>55364958
Force Unleashed CG, page 28

PSA: http://www.starwarsrpgindex.com/ for all your saga edition indexing needs

>>55365394
>>55365727
You're both saints. Thank you so much.

>>55360736
>I never bothered watching Rogue One. Was it any good?

Watch the first 45 minutes of A New Hope.

Watch the final 45 minutes of Seven Samurai.

You've now seen Rogue One, except the version you saw was better made.

>>55366210
Why do you people keep talking about TFA in here? He's asking about Rogue One.

>>55366465
No, TFA is the entirety of A New Hope, except dubbed into Chinese and then back into English.

>>55364971

I cant remember quite, it was EotE or AoR.

>>55361152

I do love RotJ completely, though it's my least favourite of the original trilogy.

I guess my issues are
>death star 2 becuase why not
Always just seemed unimaginative
>the entire ground battle hinging on teddy bears who arent threatening at all, when originally it was going to be a whole bunch of wookie construction slaves
I mean come on, how much more badass would that have been? Find a couple of escapees, negotiate with them for their help against the empire if you first bust out all their buddies.
Plus, the fact that for the gang to be captured you need all of them to go completely retarded. Chewie just suddenly stops being a space-travelling mechanic, pilot, and soldier of the Rebel Alliance and literally becomes a dog who just goes LMAO MEAT GIB and gets them trapped. It's always annoying when characters have to be retarded because the plot demands it even when it makes no in-character or in-universe sense.

That said, yeah, the space portion of the Battle of Endor is absolutely fantastic in just about every way I can imagine.
Add to that, my favourite piece of SW music from any film is Light of the Force from Vader's pyre.

Of course, those are both ruined by the bullshit musical that Lucas added. I have to fast-forward that section every time.

>>55366747
I like the idea of the Death Star 2.

It's become even more played out now that we have Death Stars 3 and 4, but ignoring the sequels, it made sense.

It's an even bigger superweapon, even more powerful and ridiculous... but it's unfinished. Rather than the Empire bringing the fight to the Rebellion, this time, the Rebels are bringing the fight to the Empire. I think it's a fun idea, fitting in with the relatively simple story arcs of Star Wars.

>>55366611
Pretty sure Backstroke of the West predates Jarbrams.

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>>55351758
Is this a joke?

>>55366909

Oh, I love the Rebellion going on the full offensive finally after two films of varying levels of defensive, dont get me wrong.

I just kinda wish they'd been attacking something other than just another Death Star.
Especially with some of the other possibilities and superweapons that came out of the EU.

But not the Sun Crusher. Fuck the Sun Crusher.

>>55366747
>judge me by my size do you? and well you should not
>so sage
>wtf why is the empire getting beat up by teddy bears this is dumb

>>55366931
Nope, tweeted by official SW twitter.

>>55347135
So I'm doing an Escalation tournament soon for X-wing, and I'm wondering if this strategy is good.

In the first round (60 points) I'll bring a standard Omega Leader, Howlrunner, and Wampa. I fly like a strange janky TIE Swarm of 3 ships, with OL being able to deal with things like Fenn Rau, and Wampa over a Black Crack to deal with/threaten things like Corran and Poe.

Then, each round after that, I'll bring in 2 more Black Squadron Pilots with crack Shot, until 150. I may bring in Inquisitor instead at the 90 point round though.

Thoughts? Do I get fucked by Nym?

>>55366747
>>death star 2 because why not
It makes decent strategic sense. The Rebels have gone mobile after Hoth, flitting around the galaxy doing hit and run attacks, and the Imperial Navy can't catch them and bring it's enormous power to bear.

Enter a target too important to ignore. It forces a decisive battle on the Alliance, for if they ignore it the Empire can blow up all the planets openly supporting the Rebellion - Chandrilla, Mon Calamari, Bothawui - they die, and so does all support for the Alliance.

So the options are let the Empire win, or let the Empire have the Kantai Kessen that the Imperial Navy should win almost hands down, either way the Rebellion is fucked.

Then the Empire fucks it all up worse than the Russians at Tsushima.

>>55368827
>Thoughts? Do I get fucked by Nym?

Completely. Also OL has such a colossal target on his head that you'll never get him past the initial joust in the early games, and he'll get screwed over in the later ones by there just being too many ships. He's probably not that good in escalation sadly. Consider Duchess for the same number of points.

You will end up with a pretty fearsome TIE swarm by the end though, I'll give you that.

>>55360736
>Was it any good?
From a filmic perspective? No. If it didn't have the Star Wars gloss no one would look twice at this underwritten, over-produced crap. But because the bad guys wear white armor and it references the seventies films more shamelessly than TFA people give it a pass. As a Star Wars film it ranks in the 75th percentile, coming in somewhere above the prequels. As a sci-fi film you can put it with Oblivion and Avatar in the 'painfully mediocre' pile.

>>55360736
>Was it any good?
The first half is boring as balls and just them throwing in as many references as they can hoping to make it feel like it will bridge in naturally.
The second half is pretty cool, especially the stuff that doesn't involve the main characters. Basically just watch it for the battle of Scarif.

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>>55351758
Yeah, its the safe route. With the billions of dollaryroos they're trying to make its not really a surprise with Kennedy at the helm.
We could luck out and maybe he'll have learnt from previous mistakes. or a rabid trekkie mauls him to death in the meantime
Or it just turns into another lot of yes-men and he'll just go and fuck it up, well maybe not fuck it up completely but stick it in the genre all those superhero movies end up in. Safe, dull and a bit forgettable, which sucks because he's not a bad producer, but just got to try to keep him away from directing... and for fucks sake, don't let him write anything- ban all pencils, pens and mechanical transcription devices away from this man or you end up with a story with plot holes you can drift a space truck sideways through.

What they really needed was a clean break and just re-make the franchise from the bottom up, I think having the old actors in it didn't add anything but being a bit patronising and repetitive. If it was all fresh faces you can clear the decks so to speak, of all the old things that didn't really work in the first place- then just make a whole new saga to stand on its own. Sure reference the clone wars, battle of Yavin etc, but trying to run it on along 30 or so years after. Just too much of a stretch to try and meld the two eras.

>>55369311
OL and wampa are just there for the 60 point games. I'd figure it would be pretty hard to deal with both at 60 points without bringing Miranda or Nym.

But OL absolutely fucks people in 60 point games.

>>55366747

to be fair, those teddy bears are cannibalistic hunters who managed to capture a Rebel who made it to General status, a veteran wookiee warrior and a Jedi knight in their trap and planned to murder and eat them.

>>55369486
>more shamelessly than TFA
Ponda and Evazan were jarring but still less blatant than YOU'RE HAN SOLO (TM) AND THIS IS THE MILLENIUM FALCON (TM) (C) THE SHIP THAT FLEW THE KESSEL RUN (TM) IN 69 PARSECS (TM)
68 PARSECS (TM) (C) (CO) (LTD) (TM AGAIN)

>>55360115
FFG is aware charOP boards exist and given any system the collected spergs of the internet will break them, hard. See magic item crafting in 3.5

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>>55368863
I wonder what space-/k/'s threads about that are like. Alternatively, I wonder what sort of shitposting space-/k/ gets into over lightsabers.

>>55370929
I wonder if space-/mu/ exists given there's like three bands in the entire fucking galaxy

>>55370929
Space-/k/ probably lost it's shit when Mon Mothma ordered demilitarization.

They probably also have GoPro footage of Endor from a dozen different angles.

>>55371155
There's waaaaay more than three bands
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Music_genres

>>55371363
>grab DC-15, go outta rim

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>>55371363
>Space /k/'s collective faces when Starkiller Base proves them all correct

>>55371388
>disputes number of bands
>posts genres

>>55371429
What's the closest star wars equilvalent to nuggets, I wonder.

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>>55371514
Slugthrowers exist in-universe, so bolt-action sluggers shouldn't be too far-fetched. The Bryar rifle might count as the blaster equivalent, since the Bryar pistol is explicitly an Obrez'd version of the former.

>>55371471
>Someone's playing Ride of the Valkyries over comms as the B/SF-17s start their runs

>>55371363
She also allowed planets to defend themselves, so I'm sure they'd be happy still.

>>55371530
Some days I wonder if I'd love the Bryar as much if it wasn't attached to my nostalgia.

Then I remember the fact it's an Obrez IN SPAAAAACE and everything's fine.

Does the SW FFG require improv from GMs due to the setback mechanic?

>>55370929
Are we talking before or after space /pol/ ruined the place?

>>55372196
Yes. It really, really does. I cannae improv for shit please help

Why exactly don't you guys like J.J.A.?

>>55322833
Nigga I don't know what sort of sith you are used to but that doesn't feel like a terribly good fit at all, what with the whole 'play at being a capitalist' stuff.

>>55372584
There's more than one type of Sith out there. You have dumb brutes like Maul, schemers like Palpatine, scholars like Wyylork, combinations like Bane, [spoilers]and pussies like Vectivus.

>>55372510
Short answer: He can't write plots for shit, and apes shit from other people without understanding what makes it meaningful/likable, Into Darkness being the most painful example but TFA having hell of a fucking lot of it as well.

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Hey sorry to post again but I was just wondering if anyone wanted to join another anon and I sometime for a game of Force and Destiny?

Ive got a link here >>55370619

and email in the name

>>55372692
>character that almost pulled off scheming the sheev and was the only thing until the Jedi knocking on his front door that made him get off his ass and take care of business personally
>dumb brute

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>>55372584
>Implying pic related isn't the sort of shit Palpatine would pull for giggles
Sith are all about "Fuck you, I do what I want because I have the firepower to do it." Going mad with power and doing hilariously cruel things because you can is part of the fun of being a Sith Lord.

>>55372948
Ancap memes are certainly the purview of some sith, but it's not an expression of the sith at large.

>>55372510
He reduces his cast to cartoon versions of their characters, which works as light entertainment fare but precludes serious character development. He is absolutely horrible at world-building, and seems to not even really think about it. He knows how to write about three different action scenes, which he reuses over and over in his films.

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>>55372359
Somebody's gotta break the Imperial Conditioning

>>55373141
>sees to not even really think about it
Literally the series head loremaster eventually had to shake his head and go "yes I know Starkiller is fucking retarded, we just have to deal with it, hyperspace doohickies, Idunno"
AND THEY MADE THIS MAN COME BACK TO WRITE ANOTHER FILM
WHERE'S THAT 40K FAG TO SHITPOST ABOUT LEGION TELL HIM I'M SWITCHING SIDES BECAUSE KHORNE'S THE ONLY FUCKWIT THAT CAN ADEQUATELY ACCEPT MY RAGE AT THIS MOMENT

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So, my GM has given our group a Citadel freighter, and 100,000 credits to customize it. My group has assigned me, as the one with the best handle on crafting and modification rules, to spend that money.

What the fuck do I buy, /tg/?

>>55373685
100,000 credits worth of glitterstim

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>>55373685
Torpedo launchers. As many as possible, DS9 numbers of torpedo launchers

>>55373685
Are you using the stock space combat rules or a set of house rules? This is important

>>55373992
Stock, unfortunately.

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>>55373723
Mount walker legs on everything

Everything.

Anyone have official sources that talk about the potency of the X-wing.

I lost my star wars folder. Anyone have a webm with sad Republic Commando squad?

>>55374062
Then what you need are enhanced sensors and a light turbolaser on an oversized mount, so you can BVR murder fighters and many freighters literally before they know you are there

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>>55374115
There is an entire wiki dedicated to that sort of thing, anon.

>>55374187
Does "enhanced sensors" have a more specific name? I can't find anything like it in OggDude's.

>>55373638
When Pablo Hidalgo says you've screwed up, you've REALLY screwed up

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>>55375049
Pablo really didn't like TFA.

>>55351758
Better than Trevorrow.

>>55368827
I played an escalation recently with vessery and omega in the forage round and had a great time. I added blacks with cracks later and they pulled their weight, though admittedly I only had 2.

If I were you I would save howlrunner for a later round and consider other options. A Defender or a sf make nice shops in 60 points. Howlrunner and an academy is 30 points which isn't an awful late addition.

>>55355581
eh, we've tried crazier things - A-wing pilots

>>55375164
>rating rogue one over rots AND rotj
it's shit

>>55375263
Trevorrow didn't rape logic or canon anywhere near as hard as Jarbrams did with TFA or Into Darkness.
Granted I don't like him either and DID wish he'd be replaced or made a co- or something but monkey's paw I guess.

>>55375533
It's a great looking shit movie with really good worldbuilding that all got blown up by the end.

>>55375559
Ok, Jeff.

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>>55375559
Shame that Disney didn't pick Chris Roberts instead and throw enough money at him to drag him away from Star Citizen.

>>55375619
Star Citizen is acting as quarantine. Don't you dare break it!

>>55375533
RotJ is a lot worse than you remember it

>>55375659
How much you wanna bet that Star citizen will become the highest budget game of all time and still be shit

>>55375781
I'm personally betting that it never comes out. Does that count?

>>55375759
Last time I watched it was in Februrary so unless there's been a Super Duper Special Edition I missed I don't think so Tim.

>>55376265
Were you not paying attention to how the film grinds to a halt when they get to Endor? Or that there is time in this movie for 3PO to recount the entirety of Episode 4 to the Ewoks?

>>55376278
>Or that there is time in this movie for 3PO to recount the entirety of Episode 4 to the Ewoks
Considering they appeared to overnight in the ewok village, is it that surprising that they had time for some yarn spinning?
...Though where it's a moon, I don't know enough about whatever branch of physics covers that to have any sort of guess on what that does to a day/night cycle.

>>55376278
t. ADHD

>>55376366
>t. nostalgiafag

>>55376375
>only a nostalgiafag can handle a movie that doesn't have shit exploding every four seconds
:thinking:

>>55376328
The day-night cycle would be basically the same, but with a shit-ton of eclipses.

>>55376696
But the gas giant would also reflect/generate a lot of light.

>>55375164
>>55375533
>>55375580
>>55375759
I think it's more that Pablo got his start in WEG, which Rogue One get a lot of the "Feel" of just about right, and Lucasfilm wasn't getting cockblocked by Robot Monkey or whatever running interference for JJ.

>>55376805
>But the gas giant would also reflect/generate a lot of light.
Still a day-night cycle, unless your gas giant is somehow shitting out a fuckton of energy in the form of light. In which case you'd have a day-dayer cycle instead.

>>55376847
Pardon, day-night-dayer-nighter cycle.

>>55376805
I can see that. Can't fault him for his personal biases, given both of those two films he had an actual hand in making, in whatever way.

If you're not Pabby and that's your actual list you need to kill yourself though. He gets props for putting ANH as his top.

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>>55374083
Mr. Seinar, KDY presents this machine to strengthen the Empire's resolve against the Rebellion. We recommend field tests on Lothal.

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>>55377673
Not so fast, Sienar. Industrial Automation and KDY defectors have been hard at work on their own joint project.

>>55377807
More like IA working with Taim&Bak

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>>55366747
My main gripes with movie Endor were solved by EU Endor, even if EU Endor caused even more problems itself.

The issue of "the Empire's best troops" being beaten by teddy bears is fixed because after the ambush the tables turn completely and the Imperials stomp in the ground battle.

The issue of the Imperial Navy + SSD losing to Ackbar's fleet is fixed because they still take heavier losses and can't do anything because Palpatine ordered them not to attack, then literally forgot to tell them otherwise, which is mentioned in the movie anyway since it's a reference to the times in Vietnam when the U.S. Army wasn't allowed to fight without severe restrictions.

But then you have the stupid shit like the droid revolution and it ruins it anyway.

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>>55377919
>mugs assault mechs in a back alley with a streetline special AC10
>steals their lunch money

Pity the urban mech that goes to visit their country cousins though

>>55378144
>then there's this fucking guy
It might be because my eyes are complete shit, but those proportions on that trooper armor make "him" look quite feminine.

>>55378196
Yeah its from deviant art and they'll stick tits on anything

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>mfw playing Empire at war for the first time in about five years.

>>55379154
It's one of the best Star Wars games.

Try Awakening of the Rebellion and Imperial Civil War. Top tier mods.

>>55379154
Veers murdering literally everything is always great

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Quad mounted T21s would be pretty scary.

>>55379171
Republic at War and the Clone Wars mods feel so-so for me

>>55372747
>and apes shit from other people without understanding what makes it meaningful/likable
Zuck the Cuck Snyder in the nuttshell.

>>55379154

I had genuinely forgotten just how much fun it was.
Petroglyph really are great guys.

>>55380957
I disagree but Snyder's entirely irrelevant to star wars so I'll leave it at that.

How much worse off would the empire have been if anakin didn't turn, and therefore they had no Vader?

>>55386359
If Anakin hadn't turned, there would have been no empire whatsoever thanks to Mace.

>>55386434
>>55386359
This depends - if there was no Anakin, period, then things really wouldn't be that much different. They just wouldn't have the singular face to be Palpatine's iron fisted enforcer.

If Anakin existed but didn't turn, then there's a larger set of possibilities - why didn't he turn, what is he doing in the interim when the Empire was created, so on and so forth.

How shit is SAGA at OT style adventures?

I like the system but I haven't played around with Jedi all that much, are they really OP?

>>55386434
Imma need a hot source for that, because I've heard both that Palpy was throwing it as part of the keikaku once Anakin showed, and that mace was actually about to rek his shit in

>>55386813
Palpatine lost the lightsaber duel itself legitimately - it was everything after that that he was faking. You can hear George's explanation in the audio commentary track.

>>55386725
Meh. It's d20. Jedi aren't AS overpowered as they were in d20/Revised, but they're still pretty potent. Most of the actually more dangerous builds have no Jedi/Force use at all, though.

>>55386893
Ah, fair enough. Knew George had mentioned at least part of it was legit, just couldn't remember what or if it was still 'canon'.

>>55387194
Technically, they haven't mentioned the canonical nature of the movie commentary since the reboot, but before that it - along with any interviews that George did - were considered the same "level" of canon as the movies themselves were.

And given that Pablo and Dave and the story group have been saying things about how they're still sticking with George's ideas, it's not out of question that the commentary is still canon.

>>55387337
As long as le hatman is around I'll keep that stance, bless that man.
Damn shame everything else non-book coming out of canon seems fucking awful or at least very nerve-inducing.

>>55386359
Extremely fucked, because such a circumstance would almost certainly mean rebel anakin, and that's a danger level 13/10 situation for them

>>55388464
>Anakin, Padme, Luke, and Leia become a force-using rebel family
Fuck, is there anything in the Old EU about that scenario?

>>55388497
Nope. Closest was Infinities: RotJ, which instead of Palpatine being killed by Anakin whom subsequently died, instead Palpatine manages to flee the scene and Anakin is still redeemed, so he promises to help Luke hunt down Palpatine and end him and the Imperial regime. He wears the Vader suit same as before, except it's in white.

>>55347135
So there's an X-wing tournament near me in a couple weeks, and I'm not sure what to bring.

The rules are a standard game with some exceptions.

- each squad may only have, and must include, one unique pilot.

- no ships that are non-unique may equip any unique upgrades.

I'm going to be bringing Imps, and was thinking of bringing this.

Darth Vader (VI, Engine, ATC, Cruise missiles)-38
3x Omega Squadron pilot (Weapons Guidance, Crack Shot)-3x20

98 points.

What stuff would I have to worry about in this format? I figure I would do pretty well against Nym, but i'm not sure about Miranda. I'm also kind of scared of double-Jump+Fenn.

Thoughts on serious threats in this format besides stuff I've mentioned?

>>55388581
Jess and the snaps seems good

What do you guys think about having all unique pilots given an EPT if they don't have one? Are there any that would be overpowered on?

>>55389966
Biggs getting a native EPT will lead to considerable bitching among the player base.

>>55390077
Ignoring the party crasher that is Biggs, who seems to ruin everything, are there any other uniques that would be broken with an EPT?

>>55390077
But what would he actually take? There really aren't any good defensive EPTs. Also any more points spent on him is not on ships he is protecting.

>>55390776
Probably Kir Kanos with his evade -> one extra hit result ability, making PTL a near must on him

Red Ace maybe

Any of the Rebel Y-Wings

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Don't mind me, just the best imperial officer passing through.

>>55391160
Look at that nose

>>55391211
Pretty typical Brit noggin. If you have a British accent you're either a pirate or a bad guy in most Hollywood movies.

>>55388975
Huh? Jess and Snap A's?

>>55389966
K-wings off of the top of my head.

Thweek.

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>>55391054
>Horton Salm survived Endor, shot down Baron Fel, trained rookie NR pilots, and has PS 8
>Not considered elite enough for an EPT
>Fucking Ezra has PS 4 and an EPT
There's no justice in this galaxy, I tell you.

>>55392962
This is basically why I wanted to add EPTs to all uniques. But I did want some input one who would be OP.

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Scum in Armada when?

>>55393125
Aside from the rather divisive Zann Consortium, are there even any Scum navies with the tonnage to go toe-to-toe with ISDs and MCs?

>>55393158
I was exactly thinking Zann Consortium with Hutt escorts

>>55393158
The Errant Venture.

Fuck Zann.

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>>55379154
>>55379154
>Smashing rebels fleets in the Imperial campaign
>Suddenly Rebels have ground based ion cannons
>Lock down half my capital ships, and devastate my fleets whenever I engage them
>I just throw my remaining Acclamators at them
Good night, you noble progenitors of the Star Destroyer line. You serve the Empire, even in death.

>>55392962
Only Force-Sensitives are allowed EPTs

>>55379154
I wish the game didn't use hardpoint exclusive HP. The ability to target systems should reduce overall "damage" done, but disable/destroy said system.

I really hate when an SSD overshoots a hardpoint for 3/4 of its shots every single time it destroys one.

>>55393158
Other than the Errant venture in the Warlords era.

>>55393195
>>55393562
It wasn't THAT bad but yes the scale it was given to fit into the gameplay was a poor fit for the setting as a whole.

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what does /swg/ think about Oola?

Why is she so perfect


Yes im aware its a cosplay

>>55386813
>>55386893
>george's explanation

Imma stick with Palpy throwing it. It makes more sense. Remember that the same guy claims Han didn't shoot first.

>>55394518
>It makes more sense.
But Windu is canonically a badass. One of the best fighters period, while Palpatine is a schemer who throws around force abilities and lacks sword practice. It makes far more sense that Windu could overcome him, similarly to how Vader does the same in RotJ.

>>55394518
The later, and canonical version, of that encounter has Han shooting at the same time as Greedo.

>>55394544
>lacks sword practice

Canonically, as per TCW, he's a fantastic fighter. He completely wrecked Maul and Savage without even really trying.

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>>55394518
Eh, I think the Windu victory angle still makes sense. As good as Palps is, he doesn't get a whole lot of opportunities to stretch his legs. He's effectively out of practice and feels more at home scheming and throwing lightning around. A swordfight is more Windu's turf than Palps'. Mace is one of the OJO's heaviest hitters, known for being an expert swordsman, and has been on the front lines for much of the war. He definitely has the skills to challenge the Sheevmeister.

>>55394544
>>55394590
Palpatine wipes the floor with Yoda, who wiped the floor with Dooku, who is one of the best duelists around.

>>55393158
>>55393195
>>55393562
Zann Consortium was a mistake.

>>55394627
Palpatine didn't really wipe the floor with Yoda. You should rewatch the fight. The two are pretty much even right up until Palpatine and Yoda are separated by the explosion from the lightning. In fact, given that Yoda is injured right at the start of the fight and still manages to force Palpatine to retreat several times, it's more likely that Yoda is superior to Palpatine, but still loses because he couldn't beat him in time.

>>55394590
Also, of course Palpatine could handle Maul and Savage. He taught Maul basically everything he knew (and knowing Sheevy, he almost certainly left in weaknesses for Maul's fighting style he could take advantage of).

>>55394544
What? In either canon Palps is said to be one of the strongest Force users ever and arguably the strongest Sith ever, overshadowing Yoda and only ever losing anywhere else because he (explicitly) throws his duel with Luke to turn him to the Dark side, just like he does with Mace to turn Anakin.

Windu put up a fight for sure and definitely made Palps try, but Mace wasn't winning that duel.

>>55394575
>The later, and canonical version, of that encounter has Han shooting at the same time as Greedo.

Which is a good thing, even if it's unfortunately not the original, but my point is taking word on canon from Lucas needs to have a few truckloads of salt with it. He's a guy who really doesn't know what his own canon is and would switch it around on a dime.

>>55394717
Being strong in the force is a boon, but it's not the sole determining factor in a duel. He slaughtered the other masters, but that still required effort. He also clearly underestimated Windu, allowing him to get in close and engaging directly, expecting to dispatch him just as quickly, but it didn't work out for him. Windu was the better swordsman, even if he was weaker in the force, and once he backed him into a corner, Palpatine was done for.

>>55394717
>his duel with Luke

He didn't HAVE a duel with Luke. Luke threw his lightsaber away after defeating Vader, and Palpatine immediately started in with the lightning. There was nothing TO throw.

>>55394717
Palpatines trump card is lightning, its what he used when he became desperate with Windu, it's how he managed to overcome Yoda, and its what he used on Luke. The two people that overcame it, via lightsaber with Windu, or willpower with Vader, are the ones to manage to bring him down.

When your last card is trumped, you lose.

Anyone got any Decimator builds for current meta?

>>55394763
In the Expanded Universe he duels with Luke but lets Luke win so he can turn him to his side right afterward.

>>55394785
>trump card

You mean him using a power and letting himself be scarred so he had "proof" the Jedi tried to assassinate him in cold blood?

>>55394785
>When your last card is trumped, you lose.
Too soon

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>>55394759
>>55394785
Zoners BTFO. Rushdown is the true master race. Jedi Evo when?

>>55394817
The EU which was never truly canon to begin with, and is doubly so now?

Dark Empire doesn't have him fight Luke and give up the fight to turn him, anyway.

>>55394817
I'm sure weird lightning scars, and not being a politician with a living witness, and having SECURITY CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, was how they fingered the jedi.

>>55394816
VI, Sheev, Kylo, Engine Upgrade, Dauntless

Run around at PS10, dodge arcs, Kylo what you can't dodge, Palp supports your wingman.

>>55395601
This got like 12th at Worlds if I remember correctly

>>55394493
Oola awakened my sexuality. I remember little me rewinding that scene in ROTJ a lot

>>55394493

Im still surprised that ratings boards didnt notice her nips were visible and force a change.

>>55394816
Current meta is-

RAC at as high of a PS as possible. He carries Kylo, Engine, some combo of (gunner+vader/hotcop) or palpatine. Dauntless optional.

>>55395601
Chumbala is right too.

>>55395601
>>55395830
So unfortunately I don't have Palp or Kylo (yet)

I made this fooling around; how does it look?

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
· Agent Kallus (2)
Systems officer (2)
Gunner (5)
Firespray-31: Bounty Hunter (33)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Guidance Chips (0)
Tail Gunner (2)
· Slave I (0)
Extra Munitions (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

>>55396086
Also made a second
just got the Decimator if you haven't noticed

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
· Agent Kallus (2)
Gunner (5)
· Dauntless (2)
TIE Punisher: · "Redline" (27)
Extra Munitions (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Fire Control System (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

>>55373685

Look into getting some fighters ASAP. The Citadel's main draw is that it can launch fighters on it's own.

>>55394704
>>55394702
>>55394785

I think there's the factor of fighting styles you guys aren't factoring in.

Maul and Mace both used form VII in one form or another. But whereas Maul had mastered Juyo and was strong enough to kill a master like Qui-Gonn, Mace was better becasue he completley reinvented Juyo into Vapaad and was probably the single strongest combatant in the order, and one of the few who had actual combat against an enemy force user under his belt.

Mace is above Maul, hands down. In the EU Obi-Wan makes it clear Mace is the better of the two, even if Mace tries to be humble about it. Even in NuCanon jedi fucking gush about how Mace is a super amazing fighter who can fucking destroy basically anything put in front of him. Yoda may be a bit better or worse, but Yoda isn't a frontline combatant the way Mace is.

If literally ANY Jedi who's ever existed actually stood a chance against Sheev, it'd be Mace.

Running my first Star Wars Saga game tomorrow, anything I should be mindful of?

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Hmm, a group of mine is expecting me to GM the FFG system, but I dunno what to do.

Since they're all coming out from DnD 5e, I might just run one of the beginner sets, give them the premades, and see how it goes.

I'm guessing I should just bring each of the beginner sets, ask them who they'd like to play the most, and run it?

>>55396086
>>55396161

Alright, let's go down the building of a Decimator since you don't understand why the stuff we mentioned is good.

RAC is the most popular decimator, and for good reason. Each of his upgrade slots is highly contested, and has a group of cards that get cycled through depending on the meta and the like. Here they are slot by slot.

EPT- Rac has 3 main EPTs, VI, Adaptability, or Predator. Predator goes on if you can afford it, and there is no PS race above 8 going on. VI goes on otherwise as the default, and Adaptability goes on if you can't afford VI. Currently, there is a crazy PS race, so VI is the way to go here most of the time.

For his Mod, Engine Upgrade- You need to to stay out of arc and stay alive.

For his Crew, you have 2 types of crew "Live Longer" and "Hit Harder" Currently, people take 1 "live longer" and 2 "hit harder"

Live longer crew are Kylo Ren, Rebel Captive, and Ysanne Isard. Kylo goes on if there is a 2-ship meta, a Pilot Skill race, or an alpha-centric meta. (Currently we have all 3, so Kylo is the standard). Rebel captive if there are lots of formation lists or single aces, and Ysanne who has fallen out of favor, but would make sense if you just want to be tanky.

The Hit Harder crew are Palpatine, or Gunner and one of the following (Vader, Hot-Shot Co-Pilot) Palp is for having a single hyper-accurate shot, Gunner is for ensuring something goes through. HSCP is for control, and Vader is for fucking aces.

The Dauntless title is only good if you have an action that you can't allow to be stopped by blocking and you don't have Ysanne. The only time you really NEED to action on RAC is for Kylo and sometimes to boost out of arc.

Note, since you seem to be new-

Kallus is bad on RAC- both manipulate focus on offense, and RAC has no agility for defense.

Support crew that cannot buff the carrier like Systems Officer is better on something with "Shuttle" in the name.

con't below.

>>55396482
In the ROTS novel too, Yoda is specifically outmatched against Sheev because he realizes that the ancient Jedi ways just won't work against Sith who have adapted. As Mace had adapted to the new form of the Sith, he was able to beat Sheev where Yoda couldn't.

>>55396979
>>55396161
>>55396086

Then, the wingman for RAC is almost always an ace that can token stack (get focus and evade at once) or Whisper. This is because RAC burns down fast if he gets shot at, and you need something to be able to survive the late-game.

Also, on Kylo- Kylo is a bully on the table- against a 2-ship list, he effectively tells them to stop playing the game for 2 turns. Against new players, it's massively un-fun for them. The saddest game is Rey+Regen Poe VS Rac(HSCP, Gunner, Kylo). Blind Rey twice in a row so she doesn't shoot, lower Poe to PS 0 round 3, and then pump 2 more Kylo-crits through his shields and the game ends.

>>55383652
Hello, fanboi. How can you live with such shit taste? I bet you also like prequels.

>>55393125
Fucking never, along with clone wars armada. And good riddance. Scum in x-wing was a fucking mistake.

>>55396513
Do you know what your players are playing? Do you know what your general plot outline is?

Different poster than the other one asking about Deci builds. If I have
RAC
VI
Gunner
Vader
HotCops
EU

Is it going to be better to keep HotCops or swap it out with Kylo? Just found out ISYTDS activates even if it hits shields

>>55397627
Swap out vader or Hotcop to Kylo. I'd lean towards keeping the cop.

Who is RAC's wingman here?

>>55397845
Playing with a few different ones. Currently is Inquisitor with PTL, V1 and Autothrusters. Tried Fel with PTL and Autothrusters/Stealth and it hasn't been going too great. I'd consider Whisper or Echo but then I'd have to lose something on RAC