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Stinky Robots Edition

>old thread
>>55336831

>Mars faction focus. Pack it up lads, this one can't be topped. Burn your Ryza's.

>After weeks of a rigged campaign, Imperials win it.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/the-fate-of-konor-imperial-victory/

>top 5 squigs
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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space wolves arooooo
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>>55341012
Wolves don't go aroooo
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rolling stinkbots are better than flying stinkbots
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>>55341012
>>>/mlp/
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>>55340855
>>55340973

So is more stratagem and DG-character related than loadout dependant?
Are melee Plagues possible?
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>>55341048
>Are melee Plagues possible?
Theoretically, but you're better off taking blightlords if you want melee in your DG, because BL with flail are OP as fuck
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Are ogryns good now?
Scout sentinels with heavy flamers and chainsaws?
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So if DG=Tentacles, 1Ksons=Space Egypt/hard edges and WE=Skulls/chains, what will the EC visual motif be? Mono-tits? Tubes? I hope its tubes.
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>>55341042
What?
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Tyranid raveners and red terror are bloody God like eat a dick imperial guard pussies
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>>55341068
you can certainly make Bullgryns work, but Ogryns with Ripper guns aren't that good.
From what ive heard and seen scout sentinels with chainsaws are pretty good.
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>>55341090

Plumes, leather, trims, gems ( think Eldar ), some spikes, hair and top knots, grills (for the "sound" theme)
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[childish shooting noises]

>>55341068
Ogryns are ok, the main problem is that Bullgryms are better at just about everything. You save a lot of points by taking Ogryns, so maybe if you just loaded them into a transport and threw them into combat they'd be more cost effective, but Bullgryns with their save are far better damage sponges.

Scout sentinels are ok, but again armored sentinels are better. The scout move hardly ever matters, but maybe if you are trying for a melee tarpit unit instead of a cheap turret unit they would be fine.
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So I bought an Ork half of Stormclaw box and gonna get a start collecting box. What should be my next purchase? I want to play 1000pts games and don't need a waacfag list - just something slightly better than casual would be fine
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First for if you criticize genestealers you're a racist bigot. We're loyal citizens so don't stereotype.
#notallgenestealers #coexist #fourarmsarebetterthantwo
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>>55341032
the onomatopoeic spelling of a howl is "aroo"
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>>55341090
>t. Games Workshop designer
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>>55341068
Ogryns need a melee weapon, point for point they currently suck at everything but getting shot.
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>>55341132
Boys for sure, try for 30 atleast. Lootas in trukks are great. Dreads too maybe.
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>>55341158
That's not how you spell awoo awoo is fucking cancer though. worst girl, would not even post
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Could I get some critique on this list?

I wanted to do something with Devastators since they can move and shoot now, and Ravenwing is fucking cool. Only problem I have is, since I'm playing a successor chapter, DA is kinda lean on HQ's suited for biking, but at least Libby gets me mortal wounds.
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>>55341157
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Was it autism?
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>>55341205
seems squishy
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Sternguard is good just with their bolters, right?

Is there any better Chapter Master gear than hammer + shield eternal? I dont want a bike
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>>55341213
Half the reason the original unedited picture is funny is because of the guy's face and how great his reaction is but the full helmet blocks that element and hence makes this photo a lot less funnier than it could have been. A guardsman helmet, not obscuring his face would of been a better choice imo.
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>>55341227
Not until he gets written by ADB.
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>>55341090
Flayed Skin, Ornate Armor/Shoulderpads, Speakers, Shoulderpads with WIngs like BA.
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Good conversion bits to go with BaC and maybe Tartaros Termies to make them look more Black Legion? Want a Chaos Warriors look to them.
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>>55341160
>implying tubes arent the sickest shit ever

Terrible taste anon, just terrible.
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>>55341213
>That one fucking Ork

Every time.
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>>55341132
I want this set so much
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I keep seeing bits of custodes background saying they were assassins and infiltrators as well as bodyguards and Master of Mankind starts with Valdor sneaking his way into some warlord's compound in full banana armour. How is this even possible? It doesn't make much sense when regular astartes like the Raven Guard are capable of feats of special forces ninja shit, but how is something as ostentatious and near-primarch sized as a custodes supposed to get anywhere undetected?
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How shit is my first go at painting flames?
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>>55341257
No, no, the joke was- Christ, I really have to explain this to you, do I? The joke was that they don't seem to know what the fuck to do with the EC either.
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>>55341244
What the fuck did you just say, kid?
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>>55341238
Also, in the original picture there are Termagants not Hormagaunts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg230t9gavQ&feature=youtu.be

Got the first of my audio bits put together for AoP

Editing audio is a pain in the ass
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E-Emperor's Children will soon have their own codex with a model for Fulgrim and plastic Noise marines, r-right guys?
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>>55341202
Is it possible to base my army on dreads and kans? I love orks mechs and I'm also on budget so I'm not sure if I can afford to play with boyz mobs
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>>55341289
I said you were a talentless cunt.
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>>55341160
I'm an EC player and I hope it's tubes.
Our Sonic Weaponry already uses tubes and I customised a plasma gun Chosen by using a helbrute tube to connect it to his armor once.
>>55341303
If we're lucky it'll start being teased next year
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>>55341304
Boyz are cheap as chips on ebay, you could easily get them less than .50p a pop in bundles someplace. Full mech lists can suffer badly versus high damage weapons but a good way to counter this is have a Big Mek with a KFF covering all of your valuable walkers.
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>looking at add more units to my deldar army
>see razorwing flocks
>4 wounds, 8 attacks, 7 points

anyone ever play with a big flock of birds? they actually look good.
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>>55341304
Not sure about now, but it used to have an entire separate army based around that calles the Dred Mob. I know Deff Dreds are a bit overcosted, but there's certainly lore and game precedent. Also, you have the cheapest Titan in the game in the form of the plastic Stompa to cap off a big list.
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>>55341303
>Emperor's Children and World Eater players thinking they're due their own books

The fact that they had to errata in Berserkers and Noise Marines remaining troops for you show how little they give a shit.
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>>55341268
They have stealth field bullshit that can hide their armor and physique and/or disguise them as regular humans. Sufficiently advanced science, etc.

It's a cheap answer, I know.
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>>55341310
Well he is talented, and good writer, but his chaos wank, abby fanboyism and daddy issues make his book bad.
Such a waste of good writer :(.
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>>55341347
Not anymore. Boyz have gotten way more expensive on ebay compared to in 7th. Mainly due to them not being utter shit so people actually want them.
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>>55341362
were...you not around for razorwing meta? They were so powerful they got a point hike and a squad size limit.
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>>55341401
>abby fanboyism

I think that's GW mandate more than anything. Talos shittalks the guy and makes him look like a bitch in the first Night Lords book before apparently getting sent the "Abaddon = cool dude and totally a competent threat to the Imperium; please write accordingly" memo.
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>>55341401
That's probably why people are so upset about the flaws. You don't hear constant complaining about a completely talent less shitheap like Kyme.
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>>55341395
>every faction and subfaction is getting a codex
Pretty sure this is to replace supplements.
Plus the cult legions do kind of have unique units, Sonic Dreadnought was pulled from Forge World, but the Index FAQ produces rules for running one and it's basically a Sonic Helbrute, so I think we'll getting it in the future, not the near future but it'll probably be teased sometime next year.
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>>55341203
No bully momiji
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>>55341203
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>>55341203
Momiji is cute. I can kind of understand you though, awoo brought a lot of secondaries.
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>>55341048
If you want to optimize Plague Marines take five with three special weapons. Either 1 Plasma Gun, 2 Blight Launchers or 3 Plasma Guns. If you Plan to have a Chaos Lord around the Plasma is solid, otherwise favor more Blight Launchers.
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>>55341510
Touhou is 95% secondaries.
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>>55341401
He's you common deviant-art fanfic writer.
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>>55341520
It annoys me to no end that the Chaos Lord has no DR 5+.
Fuck Chapterhouse paranoia.
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>>55341401
>he is talented except for this attributes which make him a talentless hack
stop defending him.
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>>55341535
Yes, but usually the majority of them flock to characters like Cirno or Flan, but the awoo and MAGA shit made Momiji a secondary magnet now too.
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Source for this?

Is it right?
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>>55341401
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>>55341542
>fucking third parties
>using generic stuff that looks like our generic stuff
>they kind of fit in our kit
>clearly it is move to rob us!
>what do you mean we don't make this stuff?!

The amount of triggering GW has right now would be like apple threw a tantrum about some third party company making a phone case.
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>>55341236
How can I make it more durable?

Termies kinda ruin the "mobility and long range support" thing.
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>>55341303
Not until after all the Index factions get their codex.
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>>55341001
>still no Dark Mechanicum
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>>55341451
I think most people just try to forget Kyme's books exist, apart from the one good line he managed.
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>>55341205
Your chapter name's fucking sick, I'll give you that.
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>>55341449
no, I wasn't. was it recently?

they seem viable, since S2 can wound any toughness on 6s now.
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>>55341718
Thank you, it took a long time to come up with.
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>>55341623
>implying SoB will get anything
>implying if they get anything won't be nothing but nerfs
Anon stop. Please it still hurts.
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>>55341612
Come on, some 3rd party is shameless.
I still think GW is retarded and this is one of the three things that made me less enamored of the release (the second is yet another fuck-your-dudes-primarch, and the third is the cheapshot move of the Plague Brethren).
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>>55341451
kyme has flashes of brilliance, which is what makes the entire rest of his novels seem so incredibly disappointing
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>>55341657
>the one good line he managed
Wait what?
Anon explain!
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>>55341205
Twin Ass Cannons are favored on Razorbacks at the moment. Plasma Guns are particularly dicey on vehicles since you can rarely afford to overcharge them. If you can, try another loadout.

Along those lines taking lots of Plasma without a Captain is kind of a no-no. Either switch out some or all of your plasma of fit a Captain in there.
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>>55341719
the FAQ for the razorwings was because of razorwing meta, where people would field around 150 razorwings, yvraine, and a couple beastmasters.

Anyone got that pic of just a massive blob of razorwings vs a massive blob of drones?
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>>55341780

Twin las works pretty well for me

I basically chose razor weapon to complement what the rest of the army is missing, either anti-infantry or anti-tank
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>>55341303

If you count 9th as "soon"

Pretty sure they are gonna dish out 1 primarch per side each edition.
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I have a 6 man sniper scout squad and 8 points I can't spend, is it worth dropping a sniper rifle for a heavy bolter? Or just have the points floating around doing nothing and keep the sniper?
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>>55341753
We can't really call third party shameless with a straight face after the stuff GW has done.

One in particular stands out as a dick move towards their consumers.
#NeverForgetCarnifex

Lets not even talk about their colossal incompetence regarding shipments.
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>>55341831
Oh, please don't misunderstand me.
Calling 3rd party dicks is not meant to understate how much of a bunch of assholes GW is.
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>>55341268
There's a short HH story about the a game the custodes play to see how far into the Imperial Palace they can infiltrate. They go without armor for the he entirety of it but there such lethal combatants that apparently armor doesn't really end up mattering.
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>>55341612
Chapterhouse went way, way beyond that.
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Advice on a BT or BA Primaris army?
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>>55341157
genestealers are essential to replace a constantly conscripted population. Genestealers have large, hard working families.
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>>55341873
>Advice

Don't
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>>55341831
Can you tell some of GW sins?
I'm just curious.
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>>55341873
Well, for BT, don't.

All their cool bits are for regular marines. You can't even take Land Raider Crusaders with Primaris Marines.
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>>55341880

>goystealers
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>>55341863
I don't really recall anything that require this level of tantrums.
It was all made by using generic names and symbols.
Is not like you can trademark a generic hydra or a generic Omega
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>>55341873
Honestly a lot of the power of BT is in the excellent Crusader sqaud, which isn't Primaris. Likewise BA don't do much for Primaris at this point either. You're better off running Primaris under Ultras, Scars, or RG at the moment.
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>>55341873
Honestly you get more options and variety from doing basic marines.

Primaris marines aren't exactly the most interesting pieces, tactically. They also don't have access to most transports, heavy weapons, jump packs, special units like sanguinary guard/death company, and so on.
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How does romance work on hive worlds?

is there forced breeding? I can't imagine the sparks really can fly when you're poor, starving, living in squalor, and/or packed into residences like sardines.

And if there is romance, do they have to worry about slaaneshi influence? I mean, all drugs and alcohol are strongly controlled except in the underhives, I can't see sex allowed freely.
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Is a banner necessary for a Death Korps command squad? I bought the High Command unit to get the Marshal, but the banner brass rod came all fucked upand doesn't much want ro stay fized. I don't care for banners aesthetically, but I guess +1 Ld and A is kind of important.
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>>55341873

If you're gonna have a shooty squad, I'd at least recommend Hellblasters
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>>55341964
People will always want to fuck, especially in places with high infant mortality. Look at the birth rate in shit world countries anon.
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>>55341873
An all Reiver force might be good for BT, right now the Primaris range is just too limited in terms of assault stuff to make anything interesting or particularly good.
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>>55341964
Cities in third-world shitholes are basically exactly like hives living conditions-wise and they still manage to fuck like rabbits. Anything to make existence a little less shitty I imagine.
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>>55341906
>Carnifex kit
>rules intentionally nerf it
>model parts in the kit that used to have rules are not decoration
>new model was hyped and made necessary to play nids

>blaming the consumer for the failure of a product
>expecting consumer to buy the same kit over and over again
>now with less models and more expensive
>WHF was basically GW shooting himself on the foot and blaming his wife about the bleeding

>treating non GW stores, were GW does not have store like second class clients
>sending them random shippings
>getting upset that you can't sell 5 boxes of ethereals
>same bloody ethereal model in 3rd edition
>not sending anything else Tau related for months
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>>55341964
Guess how I know you're a kissless virgin.
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>>55342000
>>55342011
>>55342025
He said romance though, not just fucking.

However, I think it's easy. If the living standards are low, the standard for romance goes with it. They also don't have fantasies of a better life to make them feel distant from romance as some in our world experience (television dramas influencing the views of a Chinese peasant, for example).
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>>55341925
Uhh. No. They literally made named special character models in GW style and sold them under the names of those characters. Stuff like the Doom of Malantai.
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>>55341090
I'm hoping for speakers first and foremost, Noise Marines are the main reason why I even care about Emperor's children.
Thematically, lots of asymmetry and gaudy detail would be fitting.
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HOW WILL CHAOS EVER RECOVER?!
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>>55341001
Holy shit, is that a DG version of an AAT?
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>>55342015
This is all true.
Also the hypocrisy of suing people for writing "space marine" in a sci-fi novel (spoiler alert: is not a concept invented by GW).
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>>55341925
You don't recall because you don't even know what the case was really about. Chapterhouse was intelligently and rightly using holes in GWs catalog to create models for units that had rules but no GW model. Because IP law is retarded, GW has no choice but to take legal action, less things like Tyranid spore pods become a chapterhouse IP. This is why even new "nice guy" GW shuts people down as soon as money is involved. See: picture list builder going patreon. Once you allow another company to monetize your IP, if you don't stop them, you lose exclusive rights to that IP. This shit is far more serious than you think.

It works for property and land too. If you allow someone to squat on your lawn for 20 years uninterrupted, they will have an actual legal case that they now own that land due to using it for 20 years and not having been stopped. This is why people take chasing others off private property so seriously, even if it's just kids or hobos on an empty lot.

Fucking educate yourself.
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>>55342090
>Because IP law is retarded, GW has no choice but to take legal action

And they lost
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>>55341964
It's like living in any tenement. Look up the "Kowloon Walled City" if you want an example of a real world hive city.
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>>55342115
you has the retard
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>>55342015
>>55342086
Can you write some more? Because definitely there is much more.
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Did a thing.

Apologies for poor camera focus. Cell phone.

This took about a month.
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How much is this collection worth?

Its apparently a Blood Angels Battlebox, 100% complete and unopened save for the box it shipped in, which is included, from 1994.

Imgur for more images:
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>>55342127
The lack of support for sisters is a big one in my mind, literally no excuse to have let it go this long.
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>>55342123

>GW won on 1/3 of the claims
>CHS won on 2/3 of the claims
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>>55342115
>GW profits sky high, record highest gainer in UK, no longer makes rules for units without models
>chapter house now a literally who company

When's the last time you even saw CH parts or heard about them outside of the legal context? All the smart third parties like kromlech and puppetswar are smart about it, because look what "beating" GW does to you. They didn't even "win", they lost almost half their cases and ended up owing GW damages.
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>>55342115
They lost on some claims and won on others. The wins were enough to shut down Chapterhouse and the losses were enough to prompt current GW IP policy.

Look, I agree that them trying to do things like trademark "Space Marines" is stupid. But them making sure third parties stay sufficiently generic is entirely reasonable.
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>>55342175
Nobody like sisters except for a very vocal minority.
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>>55342115
>And they lost
there were rulings in favor of both sides

However GW is large (and more importantly profitable) enough to actually go through with a case like that. Chapterhouse, not so much.
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>>55342153
What are you going to use them as? Ogryns?
If so, that's a neat idea, gives your army a unique look.
Are you going to add literal rat ratling snipers based off of skaven too?
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>>55342090
>Chapterhouse was intelligently and rightly using holes in GWs catalog to create models for units
This is all fun and dandy but GW used to create such "no-model" rules when the design team used to write quick-fix or alternative army list and both gave plenty of room for hobby and conversions, and consequently lots of fun for the customers.
After this event GW felt betrayed and suffocated any element of the game not DIRECTLY connected to a specific model thus killing part of the fun. Also it leads to situations like the DG Chaos Lord that does not look like a DG marine since has no DR.
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>>55342176
>he can't claim GW is dying anymore so now he just sucks CH's decaying dick

Fucking pathetic. At least whine about something GW has done post-Kirby administration. It's not like there's a shortage of topics. But your ignorant ass is probably stuck whining about 3E Carnifexes and Mat Ward. It's 2017, nigger.
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>>55342153
Bretty good, bro. Seen you work on those in the paint threads over the summer.

Do you have plans for beastman guardsmen/bestigor stormtroopers, too?
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>>55342081
No. It's a cute little plague puppy.
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>>55342187

The Doom of Mal'antai cited before was among their losses.

>Games Workshop had to update their codexes to reflect this, stripping out the Mycetic Spores from the Tyranid codex, as well as the Doom of Mal'antai and the Parasite of Mortrex, which also had models made for them

Of course GW won in the grand scheme of things, as any large company that buries a small one in legal costs, but every single instance of CH making models for units without existing models was judged in their favour.
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>>55342176
How is CHS doing lately anon?
Retard.
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>>55342179
>no longer makes rules for units without models
You mean, reduced amount or rules. There are still a couple left. Shrikes say hello.
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>>55342153
Project turned out great, nicely done anon
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>>55342205
They have a bigger player base than AdMech and GSC had when they got full releases.

It's also like arguing people like apples more than they like lobster.

Next argument.
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>>55342000
>>55342011
>>55342025
>>55342118
alright, even if they would fuck, would the fucking not be incredibly controlled by the arbiters?
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>>55342166
A fucking lot.
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>>55342166
Probably quite a bit, pristine 2nd ed. models are pretty rare. That said, I have no idea how to price it exactly.
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>>55342229
>>55342211
Fuck no, those models are ugly as shit and this took a goddamn month. I'm burned out.

I still have another six to convert into Bullgryns. That'll wait until I can muster up the fortitude.
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>>55342153

Minotaurs: space furries edition
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>>55342237
The result is a good number of really cool and fun to convert Dark Eldar characters trashed.
This also happened when DE needed some of those characters, badly.
Chapter House ruined it for many people, like it or not.
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>>55342175
>Muh sisters
The bigger crime is having to listen to all the sister bitching on every random 40k update
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>>55342251
Admech and GSC had no miniatures, of course they had no playerbase. Still, people liked them.

Nobody likes sisters. Nobody likes sisterposters.
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>>55341787
ehh I didn't realize they were currently FAQ'd in this edition.

I would probably still run some at 14, but it seems like an overadjustment.
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>>55342245
Shrikes had models from FW. GW's 8E policy of supporting legacy OOP models says hello. Educate yourself, you dumb fuck
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>>55342254
No. What the fuck?
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On a scale of 1 to BURN THEM ALL.....

Orks 2000pts
HQ
>120pts- Big Mek on Bike: Kombi-Skorcha, KFF
> 99pts- Warboss: Kombi-Skorcha, Klaw, Attack Squig
> 62pts- Weirdboy: Da Jump

+Troops+
>x2 148pts- 1 Nob:Kombi-Skorcha 19 Boyz:Shootas
>x1 30pts- 10 Gretchin

+Elites+
>x2 168pts- 12 Burna Boyz
>x1 154pts- 11 Burna Boyz

+Heavy Support+
>x3 197pts- Big Trakk: Supa Skorcha, 2 Skorchas

+Flyers+
>x2 156pts- Burna-Bommer: Skorcha Missiles

Wha'chu think boyz
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>>55342166
Each box is about 80-100 usd
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>>55342256
>>55342269

Yeah, thats my problem. Ive had offers between 500 and 600 for it, but I have no fucking clue how much its worth because its a unicorn, apparently. Time to call PawnStars I guess. Actually fuck those guys.
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>>55342254
Anon, your magical realm is showing
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>>55342239
>muh p-pyrrhic victory!

CHS vs. GW is merely a foreshadowing of what will happen to Konor, Imperial lapdogs!
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>>55342348
B-but I just started DG
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>>55342254
The thing about the Imperium is that if you do what they tell you to, they'll leave you alone for the most part. They're greedy tyrants, not control freaks. As long as a world pays its tithes, the Imperium doesn't care how its ran. As long as the workers do their jobs, the boss doesn't care what you do. As long as you obey the law, the Arbites doesn't care what you do in your spare time. Also, knowledge of Chaos is not common knowledge, it's on a need to know basis, and the planetary governor and Arbites don't need to know as long as the people go to church and obey the law.
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>>55342339
>>55342315
fuck, that came out wrong.

I merely meant that in the context of the imperium, even many of the simple pleasures that can easily lead to excess, such as smoking and drinking, and even stuff like caffeine, are controlled and limited by the Imperium...would that not extend to stuff like sex?

This wasn't meant to be a sparking of fetish discussion.
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>>55342297
This is the part where some SoBfag will go "and guess how you solve that problem?" Iike some smart Alec to try and get plastic models, failing to realize that you could solve it in a variety of ways, such as murdering all SoBfags or simply squatting the faction.
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>>55342223
>SoB hype
>lol just copy pasted rules from a copy pasted WD rules
>gutter rules for Inquisition
>we don't care use what ever rules you like

NuGW is just as retarded and incompetent as old GW.
They got fucking trigger about Brazil for fuck sake
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>>55342337
Of that is what you have gotten offers for, throw a price tag of 1k on it and see what happens.

I feel like that is high balling it, but I'd give it a go and see what happens.
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>>55341623
>mfw empy kids and planet munchers were delineated in the index
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>>55342315
Your parole officer doesn't restrict your conjugal visits?! Lucky dog!
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>>55342166
>nothing primaris
>invalidated in 2 years

Zero dollars.
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>>55342386
Yeah I might as well, if somebody wants to pay 1k for it, and I didn't sell that would be the day to idiots met.
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>>55342383
I've been waiting the squating since WH.
They didn't have SoB plastic models when everyone was getting at least their troop choice.

If we spouting memes. Marines got squated before the SoB! :^)
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>>55342337
See this post>>55342336
500 to 600 is about right. The 5 man box would sell a lot less though. Altogether you could sell it for 600.
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>>55342384
Cause no one buys shit in Brazil so they're second class for events
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>>55342311
emphasis on had. They haven't been selling them for years.
Also, having to go to forgeworld to buy a codex unit is a shit practise.
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>>55342383
People who think Sisters should be squatted will then unironically defend having 5 marine codexes

And yet if I killed you, I'd go to jail
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>>55342377
> merely meant that in the context of the imperium, even many of the simple pleasures that can easily lead to excess, such as smoking and drinking, and even stuff like caffeine, are controlled and limited by the Imperium

No it isn't you retard, they only ration lho sticks and recaf because the military rations EVERYTHING. Poor people can't get enough simple pleasures because they're poor. Nobles fall to Slaanesh and hedonism parties specifically because they can afford all the shit they want.
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>>55342153
Dang I remember seeing these in /WIP/. Great work, sort of reminds be of Brutes from Halo with being all furry and bulky with the spiked gun.
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>>55342377
No. In general the Imperium is not like that at all. There are ascetic warrior cultures that we see in game like the Astartes and Sororitas, but the general population is very different. As long as you praise the Emperor and pay your tithe you can fuck who you like. Now maybe there is a planet here or there where the Planetary Governor tightly controls vices for local cultural reasons, but those would be the exception rather than the rule. Plus that would likely be extremely difficult in a population as large as a Hive City. At least in Necromunda the bulk of the Hive is self governed by the houses, and the lower levels are entirely lawless.
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>>55342384
Only faggots care about anything you listed.

Fuck off and die already, SoB are gay.
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>>55342333
Any kind of armor is gonna steamroll you
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>>55342466
Hey man I agree with you, murder should be made legal under certain circumstances.

Because I'd fucking kill you first, you pussy ass SoBcuck.
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>>55342445
>I know nothing the post
The rich elite of Brazil alone can support a 40k player base than the UK
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>>55342311
>GW's 8E policy of supporting legacy OOP models says hello.

Where is my squats index?
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>>55342492
Unlike marines that are super gay.
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>>55342510
Yeah but they're not buying GW shit, that was the point.
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>>55342384
Aside from no Veridyan, SoB's Index rules are fantastic. You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>55342283
GW ruined it for trying to force their way through when they were wrong.
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>>55342166
Id figure thee right collector 1-2k easy.
Personally, not a big fan of the older models.
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>>55342532
Couldn't even be bothered to read the thread that spoonfed you the information you were missing. This is why idiots like you will stay this hyper ignorant.
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>>55342271
Bullshit Anon. Those are fucking fantastic.
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>>55342544
No one is going to drop that much you grognard
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>>55342544
>Personally, not a big fan of the older models.

B-B-But 25mm based terminators to deepstrike nicely into tight spots!
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>>55342527
We are talking about rich elite not poorfags.

>>55342529
Imperial Agents fiasco from 7th. 8th are just boring but super good rules
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>>55342566
I've been in this thread since it started, what are you even trying to say?
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>>55342333
Don't take the skorcha missiles on the burna bommers, they don't auto-hit and thus become on average 3.5 shot per round heavy bolters firing at ork ballistic skill for 20 pts. definitively not worth it.

Make the burna squads smaller so they actually fit into the big trakks and use the savings to buy more boyz. Put the warboss on a bike if he's not going to ride in a big trakk.
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So there are 3 Deathshroud in a box, what the fuck. I was expecting 5. Shit sucks. I wanted to use them in 30k..
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>>55342510
I'm basing it off Hue posters talking about stores full of proxies
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>>55342652
Yeah, well every DG player and their Waac mom will own an army of them, so no surprise. The fuckers will hit like a truck and will take serious pains to kill

Looks like the only thing stopping DG consistently will be the mighty grey knight and the humble scout
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>>55342529

Depends

Overall the army is strong (I'm, 19-2 with my list), but the rules are still meh-ish

6++ is basically useless on 90% of the army.

Act of faith does not scale unless you take a 40pt model that uses an elite slot for a 50% chance of an extra one.
Incidentally, this makes a single SoB unit in an imperium detachment op as hell.

Mistress of repentance does not benefit from their own aura

Seraphims deepstrike 9" away. All their special weapons are 6" range
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>>55342652
Yeah. Deathshroud are 3-6. Blightlords(Grave Wardens) are 5-10.
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>>55342655
Not much different from other poorfags
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>>55342610
There an entire conversation explaining why GW did it you dumb fuck
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>>55342652
They come in units of 3. Why would they sell you 5?

If you wanted two units or a bigger unit, you would need 6. So would you rather pay 60£ for 5 and need another box just for one extra or 70 for 6?
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>>55342684
>Seraphims deepstrike
No they don't. At least not if you're doing it right.
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>>55341863
>Chapterhouse went way beyond that

Gil Stevenson, please.
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Do people actually think the Mars 'tactic' is good?

It gives you about a 56% chance of getting a decent random canticle (most of the time you want shroudpsalm and benediction of the omnissiah) and about an 11% chance of getting two at once. Not worth it if any of the ones you want are still available to choose, so only really useful after the second round. Taking Cawl makes it a bit better, with about a 89% chance of getting one good one and around a 28% chance of getting two good ones, which is a bit of a risk but probably better than choosing.

Still, most of the benefit is in the late stages of the game, while the early shooting phases are generally the most important. Overall, I would say the benefit is less than doubling the effect of the canticles even with Cawl's ability.

So, in order for this tactic to be as good as a marine tactic, you need the best canticle to be a little better than the marine tactic. Honestly, I don't think that's the case. Cover bonus is going to give you maybe a 25-33% increase in survivability on some of your units. That's better than the worst chapter tactics, but inferior to the raven guard one.

Stygies is very much looking like the strongest forge world at the moment.
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>>55342681
>the only thing stopping DG consistently will be the mighty grey knight
Why? DG do small elite army and mortal wound spam better than GK.
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>>55342685
Any specific word on blightlords? Everybody keeps saying the terminators are super OP but I missed seeing the rules
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>>55342696
And I'm saying they didn't need to make those specific claims you illiterate fuck.
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>>55342700
Terminator units have always been 5 dudes in a box.
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>>55342710
What is Stygies's tactic?

And anon, yes, it's good, balanced. Not gamebreaking. Which is what you mean when you say good, isn't it?
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>>55342736
Well not any more.
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>>55342734
>hues caught cheating
>btfo
>y-you are just triggered by our hue ways
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>>55341276
Not as shit as that unpainted fishtank basing
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>>55342153
Stonkin!

>>55342231
So cute!
Imagine being a lil poxwalker child and raising a plague puppy, what a nice universe.
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>>55342700
Because the other DG unit comes in 5-10 models, I was expecting GW to sell a pack of 3 Deathshroud and a pack of 5 Blightlords, maybe that'll be the case? I dont know but that would be great so I can just buy one of each and kit bash them together to make two Deathshroud units plus a Terminator Lord or a bunch of Terminator lords and some Deathshroud.
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>>55342763
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>>55342744
Stygies tactic is the same as raven guard / alpha legion.

How is it balanced when it takes a weak army and gives them a weaker bonus than the one they just gave to one of the strongest armies?
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>>55342792
They probably will, Anon.
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>>55342792
They do seem to be separate kits.
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>>55342717
Mostly due to a combo of multi-damage melee with tons of attacks, good durability themselves, smite spam, and getting Daemon bonus on a fair portion of the army. Plus sticking the odd ancient or grand Master sends the numbers skyward.

I'm really happy for DG though, aside from an abysmal m4" the terminators look great, unless they get chucked out of all flails (1 in 5 ruins it)
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>>55342792
any pics of the Blightlords?
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>>55342807
How do you know? Sauce.
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>>55342807
Source?
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>>55342429
honestly i doubt its that much.
the models are not really rare or in any way special. and collectors usually go for old or rare, not that common.
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>>55342825
They can be shooty or melee. There are more pics in the various group shots out there.
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>>55342827
>>55342831
A guy leaked Stygies, mars and metallicas chapter tactics as the mars one was correct we know the others are too

Metallica is 6+ fnp for the interested
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>>55342837
Yeah but thats because you are a grogtard. I collect 2nd edition. Thats the price they go for.
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>>55342502
true enough but then again this list isnt made to be very competitive

>>55342625
point taken on the missiles

The Burna squads can fit in at 12 boyz
the third Burna squad with 11 boyz is so the Warboss can ride with them
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Have faith children of the omnissiah, for our Codex will be legend!

fuck I hope they don't screw us again
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>>55342837
He already said he's gotten offers in that range.
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>>55342870

>No transports has been pretty much confirmed

The dex is shit.
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>>55342827
>>55342831
Someone posted some of them with Mars tactics earlier. Before the WH update today. And it was right about Mars
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>>55341780
So I was pretty easily able to swap all my HQ`s for Company Masters, which is a DA Captain. (Outrider CM has a Jump Pack because DAngles don`t get biker Captains because of Sammy. And successors don`t get SAmmy.) The issue now is gear. I can give them pretty much anything as long as all three don`t use Storm Shields, Power Fists, or Thunder Hammers. Two of them can afford to though.
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>>55342819
5 flails in a unit would be idiot strong. Assuming similar stats to other terminators, thats 11d3 S6 AP-2 D2 attacks that re-roll 1s to wound and carry over damage.
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>>55342153
>Literal bullgryns
Picture me surprised, excellent job anon
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>>55342868
>The Burna squads can fit in at 12 boyz
>the third Burna squad with 11 boyz is so the Warboss can ride with them
I'm retarded, I misremembered the transport capacity.
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>>55342894
Thats pretty similar to the DA terminator flails which can also be given to a whole unit iirc.
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>>55342765
>store can support 100 players playing at the same time
>reporting 80 Konor games in a day
>not impossible

GW got assblasted when everyone has a bigger player base than the UK
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>>55342905
No problem anon
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>>55342920
>gaming the system
>can't understand why you get ding dong bannu
This is why your region sucks
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>>55342916
Incorrect. Flail of tge Unforgiven is master only, and doesn't get d3 per attack.

Flail of Corruption is a stupidly good weapon.
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>>55342765
>>55342920
>>55342943
Can someone explain these? I'm missing the context and would like to know more
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>>55342943
>i-I'm not mad though!
Jesus man, give it a rest. I'd be playing 40k all day too if I lived in a third world country that sucks so bad they had to make a giant Jesus to remind them God's watching
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>>55342970
Yeah, that'll suck of they all get flails. Plagueswords or whatever are trash, but if everyone can take these on like 50pt models it'll be fucking nuts
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>>55342205
Non Astartes imperial power armour would be welcome, perhaps a dual kit for =][= power armour henchmen to make it more generic and less fetish fuel.
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>>55342863
Meh. I hope GW isn't planning to stick -1 to hit over 12" in every faction.
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I spoke about sisters a couple days ago, here are some new tidbits.

The main thing to remember from the last post was that sisters regain command points whenever a unit with the Acts of Faith rule passes a morale check.

Chaos Sisters.

Yep. You can devote your army to chaos. They lose the imperium tag, and gain the Chaos tag. Instead of the normal acts of faith, you get a selection of 4 based on which god you devoted to. This is on a per detachment basis. Celestine and other named characters cannot be part of a chaos detachment or benefit from this rule.

Additionally, you gain new wargear options based on your choice.

Khornate Sisters gain chain swords and axe options for their all infantry models, not just the squad officers.
Khornate Acts of Faith
1. Can immediately fight (same as the standard one)
2. Can immediately charge (even if you're within 1 inch of a unit already)
3. Until the start of your next turn, enemy psykers within 8 inches of this unit that attempt to manifest a power take 1 mortal wound.
4. The unit manifesting this act of faith can fire its ranged weapons this turn even if it is within 1 inch of an enemy or an ally is within 1 inch of the target.

Slaanesh Sisters can upgrade their bolt guns to sonic blasters. This can get rather costly, but it has seemed worth it so far.

Slaanesh acts of faith
1. Can immediately move and advance (same as normal)
2. Until the start of your next turn, enemies within 1 inch of this unit cannot fall back unless they can fly.
3. Until the start of your next turn, enemy models within 6 inches of this unit cannot fire overwatch.
4. Until the start of your next turn, anytime an enemy unit destroys a model of this unit, reduce the killer unit's leadership by 1 until the end of the turn.

Continued next post.
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>>55342237
Don't remind me that, I'm still salty as fuck because of the CH assholes my Deldars were needed into the ground losing equipment options and most of our characters being discontinued and erased
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>>55342710
It's good with Cawl, and Cawl is good enough to consider taking just for him. Missing him by going non-Mars is a real cost. It's kind of a Ultras + Rowboat vs. Raven Guard situation. And at the very least it's something unique to Admech, which is nice.
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>>55343038
Tzeentchian sisters can upgrade their flamers to warp flamers.

Tzzentch acts of faith.
1. The unit can immediately shoot (same as normal)

2. The unit can attempt to manifest the Smite psychic power. If they do, you may choose the target unit (within range), instead of defaulting to the closest target.

3. The infantry unit takes d3 mortal wounds. If at least one model is slain this way, you may place a chaos spawn within 2 inches of the model that was slain's original spot. That chaos spawn has the Acts of Faith special rule.

4. Until the start of the next turn, you can reroll a die that you rolled for this unit.

Nurgle sisters can take blight grenades as a free upgrade to normal grenades. Infantry can also take as a costly upgrade nurgle's blessing, which increases their toughness by 1

Nurgle acts of faith:
1. The unit immediately restores d3 lost wounds, or you can return a slain model to it with 1 wound remaining (same as normal)

2. The unit cannot be shot outside of overwatch unless it is the closest unit to the shooter. Lasts until the start of your next turn.

3. Enemy units within 7 inches of this unit have their toughness reduced by 1. Lasts until the start of your next turn.

4. Enemy units within 7 inches of this unit have their movement reduced by 3. Lasts until the start of your next turn.
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>>55343006
Looks like they'll have access to baleswords and bubonic axes, which are just plague versions of power weapons
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>>55343038
I hope not.

It'd be cool as a one-off character or unit (like the one--let me repeat that--ONE Chaos Sister in fluff), but it'd be real fuckin retarded to have that be an actual thing.
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>>55342973
Basically GW removed RoW from accessing and publishing results.
Mostly because a random store in Brazil had more players than the UK, that is not an odd thing considering the population. Hell even if just 0.1% of the rich play it would be more than enough.

So GW got assblasted and accuse them of cheating.
Hue said fuck you GW and sent video tape of the day it happen.
GW removed RoW out of spite.

Classic GW hating their consumers
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>>55342973
those drones look sweat my dude
shame we can use them yet
how did you get that glossy look?
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>>55343038
>>55343066

You're not even trying
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>>55343038
Like literally every new Sisters rumor, I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>55341001

Stink Bots! Roll Out!
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>>55343014
inb4 Alaitoc gets it. as much as I desperately would enjoy Saim-hann giving windriders the troops role so I can play my bike/skimmer force more easily, I would be fine with giving up loads of CP for that -1 over 12 :/
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>>55342883
>probably no real new stuff like predicted
>only few new strategems / forge world boni / stuff

I always thought this can't happen. But those anons were right. They were to busy petting their new toys of DG+Codex to give Skittles anything new.
Time to commit sudoku.
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>>55343038
>>55343066
Laughable. Just post it as your homebrew dude.
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>>55342511
>Where is my squats index?
Rolled into guard, expect 10 new squat units on the guard release, two characters and four dual kits
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>>55341090

Its gonna be tubes; and I'm ok with that. I like me some tubes.
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>>55343098
But this time its real, trust me.
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>>55341090
Speakers, tubes and hopefully snake shit. They need to play up the serpent = temptation aspect more with Slaanesh.
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>>55343014
I think they heard that shooty orks were still somewhat playable and they need to come down hard on that kind of thing. Can't have any playstyle other than goff-horde actually be viable, ever.
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>>55343082
I used that pic for inspiration, pulled from a youtube vid, but the original painter was using tamiya clears like many do for Heresy thousand sons.

>>55343075
huh, you'd think if proof was provided that would have been the end of things.
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>>55343038
>>55343066
>>55343142
Next you'll say Orkdari are going to be a thing or something silly like that
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>>55341090
Grills
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgDIhI-ixPw&feature=youtu.be

Level 2 done, now all thats left is the squig pens
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>>55343156
Chaos sisters will literally never happen because it would mean giving Chaos something new
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>>55342333
>not giving the mek two kombi-skorchas
>mfw
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>>55343014
with how bland 40k is, this might happen

i want some rules or ideas ported over from whfb. compare the stats of skarbrand or the keeper of secrets to their AoS counterparts. note that i'm talking out of my ass and don't actually play AoS, yet.
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>>55343014
It will be. You can't have balance with incompetent designers and unique features.

You have to pick 2, and incompetent designers is mandatory.
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>>55343182
looking forward to seeing this done
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Who here bought Dark Imperium? I heard that the primaris book inside had some heraldry art that isn't in the codex proper and would appreciate pics.
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>>55343115
completely off topic but here is one of the more recent WIP shots, currently working on some shadow spectres and the rest of the corsairs.

scorpion has proven good, but has the problem of showing just how terrible the rest of the Eldar anti-armor options are. Hoping for some sort of buff to the Fire Prism in the codex so it doesn't feel like a waste of points.
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Do you think GW will put in 5 blightlaunchers in the grave guard termie box?
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>>55341310
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Abbey Community College, and I’ve been involved in numerous competitive 40k games, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in the art of keyboard warfare and I’m the top troll in the entire Black Library stable. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. Then I'll write you in as some shitty stock character that gets his head blown off by Abbadon the Despoiler, whike some lesser demon is butt fucking you. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting network Administrators at 4-Chan, and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can write about killing you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands, and, a pencil. Not only am I extensively versed in Chaos Lore, but I have access to the entire library of Games Workshop Black Library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable faction of choice off the face of the thus earth, you priviledged CYS male. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>55343185
>implying Chaos never gets anything new
>large slew of Death Guard releases upcoming.

k
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>>55343182
I feel like this isn't that good, Anon.

It sounds too sterile for Orks.

Where's the grots running about and dropping things? The gunshots and roar of engines outside? The muffled shouts and arguing of the boyz?

You can do so much more, Anon. I believe in you.
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>>55343265
The plague beep boop rovers are making me real tempted.

I might just buy a box and convert them into scout sentinels
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>>55343182
Needs a bit more shouting Orks and the sound of gunfire in the background but other than that, pretty fucking solid.
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>>55342684
Post List, 19-2 is some crazy shit.

How many repressors are in there?
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>>55343325
>>55343290
I'd add more, but im not sure how the actual speaker is going to sound yet. i feel like a lot of detail like that would be lost
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>>55343014

You'll have your copy-pasted reroll morale tactics and like it.

>>55343265

Whining and chaos go hand in hand.
Factions other than chaos getting releases is unacceptable
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>>55343176
Actually slaves units will be available for Deldars with orks, humans and Tyranids as options with beast handlers to prevent them from running, they lose their factions alliance and replaced with Dhrukari
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>>55343437
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>>55342254
Autism.
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>>55343168
This is GW they still think SA lives in caves.

The amount of fights we have with GW regarding their incompetence is austinishing.
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>>55343075
I wonder if their game volume was out of whack with their sales volume compared to the UK.
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>>55341090
I'm thinking about taking elements from these guys for my conversions. They fit slaanesh narrative as well. Arrogant, fancy, pompous, suppose to live hard and die early, cloaks, tassels.
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>>55343437
Enslaving nids and orks sounds deldar like and would actually be cool
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Looking to get into 40k with a start collecting box, glanced at Skitarii. What playstyle would they entail?
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>>55343437
>orks
>getting looted
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>>55331138
>>55333604
>>55334223
He's referring to the time Dante died as part of a campaign.
Naturally, having died, he got better.
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>>55343437
If this were true they'd just need my routing number for my bank account.
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>>55343602
which campaign was that?
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>>55343456
>>55343437
I also forgot, diggas are making a COI in the ork codex which would include digga boyz and digga buggies with ork pilots option fir normal buggies, digga nobz and digga bikers, imagine the Tzeench cultists from AOS with ork bits instead of tzeench
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>>55343621
The Armageddon global thing back in, shit I think Bush had only recently left office
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>>55343631
Lemme guess, we're also getting chaos tau and chaos eldar?
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>>55343502
It is hard to say. Since 4 guys in South America buy from GW and then sell to the rest of the region.
A guy in Chile basically supply Peru, Chile and Argentina on his own.
GW can't ship fast enough to meet the demand.
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>>55343636
that was Tycho, not Dante
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>>55341090
Slaanesh has been squatted guys. You all know in your hearts an Emperors Children release won't be happening.
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>>55343676
Dante did 'ded' at the end of the campaign.
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>>55343690
Pfft With the Yannari added slannesh has been reinforced more than anything my man.
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>>55341276
Great things in your future anon.
It's rough, but for first time you are fucking miles ahead of losers on this thread like peach guardanon. His shit is fucking terrible.
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>>55342652
>$20 per Deathshroud
Whelp guess I'm not getting any of those any time soon.
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>>55343695
sauce? Can't find anything saying that
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>>55341303
If they're making a fulgrim they will make plastic noise marines.
Shit if they get a release like the DG they are set for like 2 editions
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>>55343729
Why?
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>>55343690
we'll get a slaanesh update before plastic sisters
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>>55343690
They've been saying that since AoS, yet there's a Slaanesh daemon starter box. Explain that.
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How's your Armies on Parade entry going, Anons?
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>>55343759
Slaanesh wasn't squatted in AoS either.
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hey /40kg/ im a newbie who has been just been painting up stuff from first strike starter set and a box of tactical marines. I decided i wanna do a company of Mantis Warriors. Would Betrayal at Calth be good to start if i wanted to run something like tactical squads, termies, rhinos, assaults, and dreads at 2000pts? pic related
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>>55343771
Well, that's where the 'Slaanesh is being squatted so that the game is more family friendly' came from.
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>>55343765
>entering Dioramas on Parade
I respect those who do but I have no interest. If I'm going to build a board and sink days of loving attention into it then I'd do it 6x4 and make it something for my group to play on. God knows we need it, current host has nothing but gray buildings to populate featureless slats
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>>55343437
And the next faction will be imperial civilians, with grav-limos and daemonic mounts right?
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>>55341012
Fenrys Hjolda!!!
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>>55343695
No, that was tycho.

The third war was the conclusion of his character arc that started with the second war.
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>>55343846
I really like Tycho and Culln beacuse of this, they have actually arcs and we follow them over their career, with different models even in the case of Culln
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>>55342153
Fuck yeah good sculpting. Paint those fuckers up nice
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>>55343800
whenever I enter I generally do a whole table and just use one of the parts as the entry display. Helps with the motivation to do otherwise boring play peices to a good quality and add some original work.
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Would a Vindicare Assassin be a good TAC addition to a list? Seems like he would deal with Girlyman/Mortarion just fine
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>>55342166
> manlet marines
Maybe you can melt them down into plastic or something anon
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>>55343656
No, the T'au that disappeared were killed to a man but they drawn the attention of slaneesh forces and the Daemon Prince that was defeated by them(the one they mistook for slaneesh) and is coming back for revenge, chrone world Eldars will be a thing though, they'll replace the current daemonettes kit, imagine diazmonettes with a new weapon option, the extasic stingers, basically diazmonettes with bows S3 ap- but get ap -4 on 6 to wound, with mounted daemonettes, harpies (flying daemonettes) sirens(daemonettes with wips and bondage armour with a "alluring" special rule), a new mask of slaneesh duo kit for generic character and the slaneesh character, keeper of secrets plastic kit with an optional build as Ahll'urien Scion of the fall, basically the leader of the cults of excess before the fall of the eldar and main pursuer of the Aeldari
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>>55343765
Nonexistent boardwise until I order the foam and tubing on Thursday
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>>55343891
yes. all of the assassins are actually useful, but the vindicare most of all.

pain in the ass for eldar more than any other faction right now (most of the characters just have invulns for protection unless it's a heavy phoenix lord)
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>>55343785

Only if you run them as Carcharadons.
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>>55343785
It's a good way to start a marine army yes, primarines are good but too limited in options and marines are more versatile and with lots of options.
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>>55343905
>>55343765

any thoughts on a decent displayboard idea for eldar? general army comp and color scheme is in >>55343231

I've been thinking about entering to kick in more motivation, but I'm completely blank on decent ideas for a board. would probably leave the on foot stuff out of it and just do things with flying bases.
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>>55343729
Shit, compared to 60 dollarydoo characters that's a bargain.
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>>55343901
>No, the T'au that disappeared were killed to a man
Doubt
Mainly cause I'm pretty sure they exist solely to justify versing things on the opposite end of the galaxy
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>>55343832
Not as a faction, no, there will be Imperial citizens tokens for objective counters though and destroyed imperial vehicles as scenery for the next necromunda update.
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>>55343961
If you're gonna eschew foot troops entirely you should do some kind of 'jetting through the spires' display that goes multi-level with your skimmers
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New and bad, how are the Ultramarines tactics with a Primaris only force?
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>>55343920
space sharks are basically the galaxy equivalent of hurricane looters for neophytes

>>55343953
cool I figured that with tacticals I could really build them however I wanted to unlike buying Dark Imperium and being stuck with a few shooty bolter guys, a few shooty plasma guys, etc...

do you know how many points roughly does the set would be sans special weapons and gear?
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>>55343759
There's also a manlet marine starter box too. Want to tell me they've not been squatted and we'll see new manlet releases in the future?

When was the last time a new Slaanesh model of any sort was released? Either 40k, AoS or WHFB?

There has been literally dozens of other Chaos kits across both systems since then. GW won't openly say they're squatting them, they'll just let them quietly fade away.

Slaanesh is the Half Life 3 of war gaming.
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>>55344018
you can fall back from combat and shoot which is a huge advantage for non <fly> models
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>>55342894
NO way. Then they would out fight the fucking deathshroud.
It will be one or two per. Like most squads
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>>55342859
Holy fuck I'm glad I don't play DG and have to buy those horrendous piles of trash.
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>>55343961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Fa4os4FCo

Make the entire force coming onto shore from over top water
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>>55344037
I thought it was SoB
Token release (Celestine and Vyr) but nothing of what the consumers want
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>>55343765
Im adding button- activated audio to mine as ive been posting in the thread. ive been mixing random youtube sounds all day. Theyre not quite done yet. Its going to be a 3 story board with lighting.

>Surface level, Warboss addressing the boyz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg230t9gavQ

>Level 2, Mek Workshop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgDIhI-ixPw

>Level 3, Squig Pens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHlNmQb-rII
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>>55342973
> two of the most broken fucking units in HH
Take your cancer back to your dead game thread you cunt
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>>55344075
I've always wonder how a game about marine vs marine that was FW only could survive long term.
Unless the entire thing was made as a cash grab that grew way to fast
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>>55344042
Isnt falling back kind of something Space marines dont do too often? Like fluff wise
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>>55343075
What is Row? Who is Hue?
Can someone link to his video?
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>>55344068
This is my point, even SoB has has more releases/acknowledgement
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>>55344107
tabletop =/= fluff

if a unit of bloodcrushers makes it to combat you really don't wanna be fighting it out with them
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>>55344071
And the board as it is now
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>>55344075
>>55344103
>HH dead
Woah back the fuck up a sec, I just came back after like two years away, what happened to HH? Did they pull it?
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I'm new to the hobby, and I've been made aware that Citadel glue is overpriced, what glue should I be using?
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>>55344119
Rest of World

Hue is a term meaning Brazilian.
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So, on a whim I decided to buy a monolith. My Necron army only just reaches 1400 points (more like 1000 built and the rest WIP).

How bad did I fuck up? I'm kind of committed to Necrons even though they're apparently trash tier now. Is the monolith at all viable?
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>>55344148
Personally, I use this.

Revell Contacta Professional is also great.
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>>55341001
Finally built up a 2000pt army.
>2x 30man cultist squads
>2x 10man berzerkers squads
>chaos Lord with power sword and plasma pistol
>chaos Lord in terminator armor with lightning claws
>helbrute with twin lascannons
>30 bloodletters
>6 blood crushers
>skulltaker
>Herald on throne
>skull cannon
Total of 1996pts
I want to add a rhino or two and drop the Lord in termi armor down to a normal Lord though. Still need to prime and at least wash all of them.
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>>55344148
I love Testors plastic cement, has worked fine for me and its cheap.
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>>55344119
This was basically a traditional GW shit show with SA. We hadn't had one in a decade. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

We had one every 5 years. Due to GW going full retard
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>>55344103
It started as a passion project that, as soon as it made good money, immediately translated into FW being FW, and ruined itself with power creep.
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>>55344180
how are the bloodthrone and skulltaker in the game?
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>>55344148
Loc-Tite's been working for me. As with all glues, beware of glue-finger.
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>>55344139
forgeworld hasn't updated them for 8th and will be putting out a rule book what i think is 7.5 to continue the HH
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>>55344139
The fact that it is stuck in some shit 7.5 limbo, Blights complete mismanagement and death, and the remaining authors admitting they had no good plan for the future torpedoed the game. Look at how pathetic their threads are.
8th being extremely well received was the final nail in the coffin.
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>>55344052
Agreed. One per 5 seems reasonable.
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>>55344148
Anything with the needle applicator
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>>55344075
I paint them because I like the look. they've never seen a table and probably never will with how fires of cyraxus is eternally delayed, don't even play HH.

your salt levels amuse me though.
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>Entire game just has been rewritten from the ground up
>GW is releasing 10 codexes between release and the end of the year
>At least two of which had quite a substantial amount of new models to go alongside it
>High probability that all factions will have their own codex and no longer be reliant on the indexes within one or two years
>Whilst balancing is far from perfect, at least there isn't an utter disregard for the impact particularly overpowered units
>That's quite something different from back when armies had to do with no codex but a WD dex (BA, SOB) and even some codexes not being updated for up to a decade (DE)
>And yet every time an army doesn't get new models alongside the codex release, or a codex that hasn't been finely tuned to the current meta, we get angry and accuse GW of not caring or wanting to squat the army

Now don't get me wrong, I hate GW as much as the next guy (their prices are bloody daylight robbery) but aren't we maybe getting a little bit entitled already ? Are people aware of the time between writing a codex, going to the printers, being shipped to stores, and release day ? Do we know GW's capacity for designing new models, getting the molds and sufficient initial production ?
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>>55344268
It just sucks a bit when DG get 10 new plastic kits for their release and Admech gets nothing
I agree it's better than it has been in the past
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>>55344138
I have never been a fan of the tri level boards... they just look a little strange to me maybe something to do with looking unnatural?
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>>55344288
Admech is a fairly recent addition though right?
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>>55344288
DG are getting their actual release. Ad Mech got their full release recently, so won't be getting much for a while.
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>>55344288
Jesus Admech was a new range while DG is ancient. Get off your entitled mobility scooter already.
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>>55344107
Falling back is not retreating.
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>>55344075
>its a dead game but I still care about balance!!
> For a "dead" game.
Ur a cunt Harry.
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>>55344268
I expect something new to buy with each new rule release.
They can't be this retarded and pull another WHF
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>>55344366
faggots like you are the reason its dead.
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>>55344381
It's dead because they aren't updateing it you daft twit.
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>>55344288
There's that entitlement anon mentioned.
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>>55344373
Except it doesn't work like that, Anon.

They can't release every fucking book within a year and a half plus have new models for each faction. It's impossible.
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>>55344268
Makes me feel bad for for Nick.
He has to put up with all this non-stop whining every day
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>>55344214
Kinda underwhelming. The skull throne isn't bad, but trying to fit it anywhere is a real pain. Skull taker while bitchen looking really should be cheaper or have the same abilities as a normal Herald, plus his snowflake ones.
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>>55342601
>tiny bases
I rebased all my Marines when they changed the base size because it just looks better, they're not hanging over like my beergut
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>>55344403
>>55344341
Where am I entitled? I don't even play Admech. I'm just saying it sucks to compare the 2 releases in excitement. Or would you rather see the other codexes this year drop with no model support either?
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>>55344373
>Buy the codex
> CONGRATS YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING NEW.
> Have a party.
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>>55344426
Some will some won't it'd be impossible to do brand new stuff for everyone is what I think he's getting at.
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>>55344426
GK and Chaos didnt get anything new, DG is technically their own sub faction and I personally dont expect Tyranids to get anything new. Eldar and Guard does need to have new plastic infantry but its not "unfair" or particularly bad that some books wont get anything new when the priority is to have every codex out in a year.

AdMech got their plastic release and so did Thousand Sons, there are some armies still waiting for new plastic infantry to replace the old 10+ year old sculpts. Get some fucking perspective man.
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>>55344139
>8th comes out
>hugely successful
>FW says it has big announcement
>proudly says they will still be using 7th rules and will be releasing an updated HH rulebook
>everyone abandons ship
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>>55344563
most of the larger HH communities are still going uninterrupted. and there have been many credible rumors that there is already a move to 8th mapped out once the rules for all legions are released (basically making it a complete ruleset before moving on)
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So from what's been shown so far how will you be running your DG? What are you must have units?
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>>55344107
Space Marines absolutely fall back, unless they're mad with bloodlust or deceived into thinking they've already won the battle.

Falling back is just moving to a more defensible position, usually in a structured and orderly manner that covers your rearguard while you retreat. There is no glory in a pointless death.

Just because you're retreating doesn't mean you're a coward. It means that the fight is not worth the amount of resources you're going to have to spend to win it, and if you can better apply those resources elsewhere on the battlefield or at a better time, then a controlled retreat is usually the better option. It's not cowardice to retreat in the face of an unwinnable battle if your life can be better used in another aspect, and as a commander it is the honorable thing to not waste the lives of your men in a futile stand for little benefit.

Note: It's still entirely possible to fight a last stand or charge head-first into suicide missions and still have this belief, because some objectives are worth dying to accomplish. It is in these situations that retreat in the face of an unwinnable battle is dishonorable.
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>>55344712
At least 9 Blight-Haulers
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>>55344712
Terminators led by a couple of Terminator lords, 1000pts of them. Then when EC get a release I'll add 1000pts of that to make a list.
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>>55344617
>rules for all legions released
Anon, the Horus Heresy will actually be happening in real time by the time all the legion rules are out.

Also,
>still going uninterrupted
I don't believe this for a second. We had three groups vanish overnight.
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>>55342684

Been trying out Celestine in my BA army and she's been doing so well that I've been pondering dropping one of my squads of assault Marines for a 10man squad of seraphim.

You think the extra act of faith for double shooting/movement would be worth it?
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>>55344770
>most

he didn't say all, a bunch of the smaller communities have been hit, but as long as the big ones are still kicking the game can tick over until the 8th conversion, just as it did for the 6th > 7th
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Thinking of getting back into 40k after a long haitus.

How would Grey Knights be for a novice?

How about Chaos? Any chapters in particular have fun stuff?

I am mostly interested in small model count, badass individual models; big things (vehicles, demons, mechas) optional.
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>>55342579
no, not THOSE. The Skaven models.

I like minotaurs. I don't like rat-people and goat-people.
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>>55342819
DG vs GK would be a brutal matchup. Both are extremely geared towards wrecking each other's shit and both can dish out multi damage weapons and mortal wound spam like no other.
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Any Necron players test out their C'tan shards yet? It feels like every time people talk about 'crons they kinda just forget about the C'tan.
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>>55344425
>using squatting legs

I always make my power armor with running legs from FW kits or melee box sets. Costs more but I like the look. Probably doesn't work for shooting style chapters.
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>>55344865
GK is a good beginner army, that is, other than the painting part.
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>>55344766
Do we know the exact options and costs of the Blightlords?
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>>55344952
there are people that have problems painting metal? weird.
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>>55344952
>prime with silver spray primer
>blue wash
>you're done nigger
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>>55344918
It was nerfed to Oblivion and has been shit since and is still shit. Hasn't been good since the days of 6E when it was a Reaver tier titan in a tiny model.
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>>55344975
>>55344986
That's not the hard part. The hard part is the nemesis force weapons and the personalized heraldry
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>>55344952
GK is most definitely NOT a good beginner army. I started with them and got THRASHED on the regular because my tactics were shit coupled with the unforgiving nature of an elite army. Even though I play much larger model count armies, every model loss feels like it stings almost as much as it would if I were playing GK. I love the GK models/fluff to death, but they are definitely not good for beginners unless you're going against a similarly elite army.
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>>55345000
>nemesis force weapons

I don't even try to do that fancy airbrush/NMM/blending/OSL crap, I just paint all my power weapons deactivated silver.
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>>55341906
Took some lady to court because she wrote a book about a dog who was a "space marine". This despite the fact that the phrase "space marine" predates GW.

Took Chapter House to court for 800+ different things (some of these were totally legit, but many weren't), despite the fact that some of their stuff is less then original.

They charge preposterous amounts of money for inferior hobby goods (glue, paint, files, brushes, airbrush flamers etc.)

They consistently kill anything fun or affordable (Mordheim, Necromunda, GorkaMorka, Epic, Warmaster).

They constantly cut costs while increasing prices.

They didn't let Juan Diaz sculpt the latest generation of Daemonettes.

They charge stupid prices for 10+ year old sculpts.

They've had some serious proof-reading/editing issues lately.

They forgot that Lelith is too perfect for drugs.

Some of their more recent sculpts look way to fragile to play a wargame with.

They didn't give Orks rules for looted tanks.

They charge certain parts of the world much more then others for the same product.

Overly generic, non-nonsensical, and/or worthless chapter/warband rules.

Models with current rules are out of print. (Sonic Dreadnaught, Scout Tanks, Grot Tanks)

Selling "rare and limited' models for limited amounts of time.

Killed that one guys nice army builder.

Put the point values at the end of the codex so you constantly have to flip between the unit rules and the points.
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>>55344975
The details
Differentiates it from painting something like Necrons
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>>55345010
Thanks. Appreciate the warning. I dig the fluff of GK but if I'd losse 90% of my games it wouldn't be very fun.

How would chaos be for a novice? Or any other suggestions for low model count elite unit armies?
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>>55344024
Probably between 1500 and 2000 points
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>>55345124
Low model count elite armies in general are just hard to play if you think GK sounds hard.
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>>55345124
I don't know much of Chaos other than a good majority of the players whine about EVERYTHING. I think a more forgiving army would be AdMech, they have the potential to be slightly more elite than something like non-conscript IG or Sisters. If you're dead set on an elite army though, Harlequins are fantastic this time around. They're still pretty unforgiving, as is the nature of elite armies, but they pack a FUCKING PUNCH. I believe they also have army wide 4+ invuln saves. If it's not army wide, it's a damn good majority.
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>>55345151
Noob question: when a Lord of Skulls uses its Slash attack is it three actual attacks per one of its attack stat or just three chances to hit per attack. I watched one mulch its way out of ten Termies in one round with it and I wanna know if that's legal.
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>>55345151
GK is probably the best low model count army right now that's not something like Knights or Dreadnought spam. They have the best small elite infantry due to psychic powers, good stats, good wargear.
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>>55345199
slash is 4*3 so 12 attacks (at full health) and at the lowest tier it's 8*3 for 24 attacks
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>>55344563
>Implying AoD rules weren't better than vanilla 7th
Only by restricting LoW to 25% only the game was improved greatly
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>>55344479
AdMech could really use a transport option or two. As it stands they are desperately hurting for one. Even one based off the Crassus Carrier would be neat, though I'd settle for walker based transport too.
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>>55345151
I'm only asking because a previous poster said GK was hard. If it isn't *that* hard I'd be willing to grind through games until I figured out how to not get wrecked.

I haven't played in ~15 years, so functionally I have little idea how the different armies operate anymore outside of lore.
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>>55345124
Chaos is fine, you can use mass bodies, you could summon daemons, or you can use elites.
Daemon engines aren't efficient but they're powerful. Our elite troops are pretty good too.
Be prepared for Imperiumfags to scream obscenities at you on /tg/ and call you Carnac if you even consider disagreeing with them though, most Imperium players aren't screeching retards thankfully but they're a very loud, very annoying minority and they act like they're in the right all the time plus they outnumber reasonable players on /tg/ itself and pretend to play for other factions a lot so they tend to trick people into thinking Chaos players do the most trolling but honestly I don't see it.
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>>55344892
Have you considered lizard people?
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Wanna play a guard army as my starter army but hate the catachan and cadian models. Anyone know some good alternative troop models?
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>>55345284
Vostroyans look cool.
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>>55345284
Is price an issue?
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>>55345284
Stormtroopers are awesome in both rules and models, otherwise I'd just wait for the codex to see if they get new plastic infantry.
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Hey guys, getting my new (almost all Dark Eldar) Ynnari army together. Let me know if this list is fun/playable.

1499/1500 points
Ynnari Battalion

HQ:
Yncarne (Warlord)
Yvraine

Elites
Bloodbrides (10) (1 Agonizer, 3 Hydra Gauntlets, Adrenalite)
Trueborn (5) (2 Darklances, 2 Blasters, Venom)

Troops
3x Kabalite Warriors(5) (1 Shredder, Venom)

Fast Attack
Windriders (3)

Flyers
2x Razorwing Jetfighter (2 Dark Lances)
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>>55345284
Steel legion are beautiful models and their tanks have the best colour scheme.
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>>55345259
You just gotta do your alpha-strike the right way with GK, so that most your army is the one that shoots first. Which isn't that hard when most of your units can deep strike or teleport. And know your target priority. GK right now are in a funny place where their shooting is perfect for clearing infantry, and their melee is better at dealing with monsters and vehicles.
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>>55345051
>Killed that one guys nice army builder.

he was dumb enough to use their trademark, the one thing they are actually obligated to enforce. they might have been able to give him a waiver to use website images, maybe, but as soon as he used the trademark he was fukt.
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>>55345300
Little bit. If I can get the models on the cheap though that'd be good.

>>55345296
Yeah, loved their book. Love the models a fuck ton too.

>>55345309
You think we're gonna different plastic models anon?

>>55345314
Love the aesthetic of them but dislike the models sadly.

Thinking about going through victoria miniatures for the highland moss guard but... those are expensive as fuck.
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>>55344426
Nigga, I play Deldar. I'll be happy if I still have all the units in the index for what our track record shows.
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>>55345394
He tried to make money off it too.
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>>55345402
>Love the aesthetic of them but dislike the models sadly.

Hoping for plastic steel legion with Codex: AM
Currently have Cadians but you bet your ass if they release plastic Steel Legion i will swap my infantry
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>>55345051
>all these decade old whines
>all these non-arguments like Diaz who doesn't even work for GW anymore so how the fuck could he sculpt them
>complaining about druggie Lelith

Holy shit you're a fucking autist. Protip: just because some newfag asks for you to expound on something doesn't mean it's open season to murder your self image.
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>>55345402
>You think we're gonna different plastic models anon?

Its a possibility and GW could easily do CWE with plastic infantry, then Tyranids with nothing and follow that with IG with plastic infantry and then release the last two codices in december.
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>>55345410
>DEfag complaining about loss of models
Nigga you only lost shit that didn't have models. As far as I remember that was only characters like Vect and Sliscus RIP who were fluff players and nothing else. You'll be fine.

t. bitter Corsairs player
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>>55345284
Death Korps of Krieg. Hands down the most beautiful army in 40k.
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>>55345410
you already lost your options, expect a copy paste
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>>55345423
I never heard about that, but if that's the case no wonder they pulled the plug.

for those wanting to do fun fandex/fan project things:

1) make sure to include an appropriately worded disclaimer crediting GW with the rights and trademarks they do possess even if the work falls under fair use or derivative works.
2) for fucks sake don't monetize it in any form
3) don't use the big trademarks, ever
4) generally avoid images, especially ones farmed from an unknown source.
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>>55345313
Replies are slow, so here are my thoughts on tactics.

Forward wave would consist of the Kabalite warriors whose Venoms would work to protect the Trueborn in their venom. This wave would make targetted attacks in the early game, the trueborn against hard targets and the Warriors against hordes.

Second wave would consist of Yvraine and her Bloodbrides (fluffy, huh?). I figure 10 bloodbrides are pretty scary to most things, kitted out the way they are.

The Razorwings are there to do what they do, circle the board and hit enemy hard targets with their dark lances.

Windriders are there because I needed to fill 60 points. They'd act as flankers or a distraction carnifex since people really hate Eldar jetbikes.

The Yncarne is a good way to come back from an enemy alpha strike, IMO, and Strength From Death heavily benefits a list of spammier, massed MSUs like I've got in the kabalites and Bloodbrides.
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>>55345246
>a solid turd is better than a runny turd!
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>>55345453
>>55345434

Anons I just want new guard regiments. Give me something that looks like these guys.
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>>55345482
He put up a Patreon to support it.

Got the cease & desist a day or two after
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>>55345313
Faggot
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>>55345465
sure let me just sell my kidney
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>>55345051
>They charge preposterous amounts of money for inferior hobby goods (glue, paint, files, brushes, airbrush flamers etc.)

Companies can charge whatever the fuck they want. In fact, it's smart to charge as much as the market will bear.

>They consistently kill anything fun or affordable (Mordheim, Necromunda, GorkaMorka, Epic, Warmaster).

Necromunda is literally coming back you fucking moron. Other games are returning/have returned too. Bloodbowl, Titanicus, etc.

>They constantly cut costs while increasing prices.

Name the last company-wide price increase year. Not only do I bet you can't, but even if you could, you'd notice oh shit it's fucking old as shit news because they haven't raised prices in multiple years.

>They didn't let Juan Diaz sculpt the latest generation of Daemonettes

Diaz clearly doesn't know how to use CAD.

>They charge stupid prices for 10+ year old sculpts.

Lump all your price complaints into one, faggot, don't just spam them multiple times. This isn't even getting into the fact that price complaints aren't actual arguments. Other companies charge shit tons of money for their stuff too. Even Mantic, who used to be super cheap. Ever look at Privateer Press or X-Wing prices lately?

>They forgot that Lelith is too perfect for drugs.

Kys

>They didn't give Orks rules for looted tanks.

Kys

>Overly generic, non-nonsensical, and/or worthless chapter/warband rules.

Kys

>Models with current rules are out of print. (Sonic Dreadnaught, Scout Tanks, Grot Tanks)

You have this backwards you dumb piece of shit, GW is supporting no longer sold models. They COULD have just said fuck you and left you with useless models.

>Selling "rare and limited' models for limited amounts of time.

A lot of companies do false scarcity, but I'll give you this one.

>Killed that one guys nice army builder.

Babby's first picture builder was shit, and he absolutely deserved to be shut down for trying to profit off others' products.
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>>55345503
>Give me something that looks like these guys.

They're called Skitarii.
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Is it worth getting a Thunderhawk to stuff full of DW Knights? I need the turbolaser, too, but I'm trying to keep everything in my list as mobile as possible -- I need something to get my termies nice and close, but fuck relying on a 9" charge.
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>>55345507
top kek.

>>55345460
well, bitter corsairs player, have this that my local group is currently playtesting at the request of one of the guys in it. It works pretty well so far.

I'm sure more feedback can't hurt, I think his plan was to eventually send it to FW via email after we get done with it.
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>>55345535
Hello Dark Angel, this is Chaos

Why not come over here, I'll teach yuh Warptime
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>>55344760
Jesus, going a bit overboard don't you think? How will you run them?
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>>55345560
Your warptime can suck Ezekiel's cock.
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>>55345527

Anon, no skitarii are machine wrought fags.

Give me a man, his kit, his trusty las rifle, and brigade of tanks to open and exploit a breakthrough any day over some cogmen.
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>>55344969
according to rumors, 38 ppm, same stats as deathshroud but without the +1 attack rule or the bodygaurd rules.
can take flails (that's what you'll be taking most often) reaper autocannons, the various plauge weapons, combibolter or blightlauncher
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Can somebody post the little nurgling with the helmet on?
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>>55344969
From B&C

Deathshroud:
Come in units of three with an option for three more
Everyone has plague reapers
75(!) points per guy
3 attacks each (4 on champion), T5 with two wounds apiece.
Cataphractii armour
Everyone gets Plague weapon hand flamers
All DEATH GUARD characters within 7" of the Deathshroud (excluding Morty) get +1 to their attacks.
If a DEATH GUARD character within 3" would be hit by an attack, on a 2+ these guys can take it instead. This can be used on Morty.
Melee monsters, but also able to help Morty survive turn one shooting. Solid...but expensive, and I feel they will be too easy to kite.

Blightlord Terminators:
Come in a unit of five
38 points per model (not including wargear...but still much cheaper than Deathshroud)
Can take special weapons (Blight Launchers e.c.t.) but limited to one in five (I think)
Can be kitted for melee too, with options for Baleswords (Plague Power Swords), Maces of Contagion, Bubotic Axes, Flails...e.c.t.
I think these guys will be better than Deathshrouds. Cheaper, can bring melee pain and have decent ranged options too.
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>>55345509
y
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New thread

>>55345663
>>55345663
>>55345663
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>>55345465
>poor fag
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>>55345627
75 points for 2 wounds is not worth it in the slightest no matter how many saves they get.
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How do I into a decent Primaris Repulsor loadout?

I think I'll add the extra ironhail stubber and replace the auto launchers with fragstorm, then magnetize the main guns so I can switch between higher volume of fire - I don't think you glue the third turret gun so should be able to switch that easily
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>>55345958
*higher volume of fire and fewer but stronger shots
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>>55345284
anvil industries
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>>55344986
> Play Steel Confessors
> Sprayprime Silver
> Airbrush drakenhof nightshade
> Drybrush silver again.
> Then paint pauldrons/faces/details

Easy as fuck man. Although the only joy I get in modeling now is in the cool minor details. Like actually painting faces, and adding squad stripes on tanks.
> Hear someone in the store talking about how cool it would be to have a "5 o'clock shadow" on their squad sergeants
> Mention that I gave one of my rhino drivers a 5 o'clock shadow.
> Show them the model. It has lots of tiny little details like an actually painted console screen inside, and a fully open hatch.
> They're both completely astounded
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>>55342859
I'm not a big fan of the mixed shoulder pads
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>>55345498
That.... that's actually true anon, otherwise I would recommend you to make an appointment with your doctor.
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>>55346734
>expecting organization and same stuff from chaos

get out of here loyalist
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>>55346734
>10000 years of scavenging materiel should mean consistent arms and armour.

Anon, please. Chaos being a mismash of whatever they can find is what they've always been.
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>>55343231
>jetbike spam
yep eldar
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