/edhg/ - EDH/Commander General

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>>55335225
I want to fuck that Jugan.

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>>55335225
S P I N O S A U R U S

>>55335225
>What is your opinion on the new theme feature on EDHREC?
wut?

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>>55335289
>bipedal
I thought the dinosaurs in this set were supposed to be scientifically accurate?

So trying to make a voltron deck for my multiplayer playgroup.

I originally wanted to play Rafiq but he lends himself better to an Enchantress build I don't want to play.

Ruhan of the Fomori seems like the more fun choice for the equipment voltron I wanted to try.

I already have some staples like Stoneforge Mystic, 3 Swords of X and Y, Batterskull and a Jitte set aside for whichever I choose.

Any opinions one way or another?

>>55335225
>that Jugan
The new Kamigawa dragon arts are kind of nice, but I like the style of the old ones. On one hand, that new Kokusho or Keiga would be sweet, but on the other the OG versions have an iconic look.

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>>55335309
>accurate
>mtg

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>>55335316
Definitely Ruhan. Also, run Assault Suit. Trust me.

>>55335309
You thought wrong, they stated at the panel that they were going for what they think looks cool. There was never any notion of scientific accuracy.

>>55335316
Sigarda's Aid is a must. Hammer of Nazahn is also pretty nice. Bloodforged Battle-Axe is my new favorite equip.

>>55335354
Assault Suit was almost a defining factor to me wanting to try Ruhan. Rafiq seems a bit one dimensional and the Russian Roulette aspect of Ruhan may save me from tons of political hate.

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What are your favorite blue beaters? I just want to smash face, but my colour pallet is limited, and I keep throwing in janky nonsense.

This guy right here wins me games pretty consistently.

Is Brago interesting if I don't go full stax? I don't have any deck with white in it and it might be time to build one

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>>55335462
A lot of people forget that he's also a good flying beater in addition to a massive combo/value piece.

>>55335475
I have a dream, as a Brago player.

My dream is to make a ramp deck with Brago at the helm because he untaps rocks. Sure, the control stuff is always good in a pinch, but the idea is to slap down a fuckload of rocks, ramp into giant monsters the second you connect with Brago, then do silly things like untap all your rocks, your voltaic key, and doubling cube, then deck someone with Brain Geyser or Stroke of Genius.

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Weird card.

>>55335225
>thread question
Pretty cool, I am probably gonna waste some hours on it looking for cool ideas.

>>55335511
Free mana if you can find a way to lock out opponents from swinging at you.


Not enough free mana to make me want to play it though.

>>55335295
When you're looking at a commander you can further refine your recommendations by theme. It's not very good yet, it seems like it can only recognize a super high density of card types. So no Stax, but "artifacts" or "elf tribal."

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>>55335492
I totally forgot about him, I just thought he was an expensive Peregrine Drake, but for an evasive flying value beater, I'm pretty sure I can make it work.

Because I'm running a lot of artifacts, this thing can be pretty difficult to deal with too, particularly with the whole Aboshan flying thing.

I have been out of the loop the past few days.

Has there been any clarification on the interaction between Mairsil and Quicksilver elemental, or is still "because Eli said so"

>>55335440
Sunforger is also amazing.

A good Sunforger pack can really make a deck like Ruhan.

>>55335602
This. Being in blue means you have all sorts of great cards to put in your package too.

>>55335326
New Kokusho and Ryusei are nice but for the rest I prefer the old art. wish we would have gotten new bladewing + new ryusei with the dragon precon but oh well.

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>>55335511

>>55335326

They did a good job with the new art but it lacks the otherworldliness that the original Spirit Dragons art has.

>>55335795
I don't care what anyone says, John Avon Ancestral Visions would be strictly better if it weren't for the original printing's nostalgia factor.

>>55335795
The new art on the dragons so fucking good. I guess it would be better if they were more "spectral" to show that they are spirits.

>>55335806
>strictly better
It looks so bad, and it doesn't have the reference to Ancestral Recall. John Avon is not bad, but holy shit, he is overrated.

My group is mostly wins by infinites. How do I play big ass creatures w/o being punched in the gut every time I try?

>>55335511
If it paid off on each opponent's end step, I'd seriously consider it. As it is, it gets dramatically worse per opponent.

>>55335270
Seems a great surprise for the "10 treasures, I win" card. And an effect that's a better Mana Drain is probably only fair at 5.

>>55335887
Run bigass creatures as the wincon to Hatebears that lock out the infinites.

>>55335887
Ruric Thar

>>55335937
>Ruric Thar
Huh, I was thinking of Naya, but he seems good enough.

>>55335943
Ruric Thar is probably the toppest tier Punisher commander. It's rare to actually get it in really cutthroat metas but it's always fun to get a Possibility Storm out and a Grafted Exoskeleton on him to totally shut out non-creature strats.

>>55335316 back

I through this together as a rough draft of my list and put the cards I have set aside in the maybe board so I can try fitting them in.

This is my first equipment voltron and it is less clear cut than the Sigarda Enchantress.

>>55335943
Gahiji then, and but him in the 99

>>55335886
>overrated
I feel that way about a good portion of his cards but the rest have such a peaceful quality in them you can't find in the grand majority of MtG.
He may not do the best fantasy work, but his scenes are something to be admired.

>>55335973
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ruhan-the-random-3/

Forgot to put the tappedout link.

>>55335943
Grenzo 2.0 has a lot of potential to screw ulover combo players. They can't go off if you exile the combo pieces from their deck. Goad also forces them to use the combat step

>>55335975
Sounds good, I could use Mayael too to cheat some creatures in, but Gahiji helps me punch harder.

>>55335970
>Ruric Thar
>with Infect

Holy shit that's so mean

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>>55335462
Monoblue beaters you say? I wish Urborg on a stick was as good as this guy.

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>>55336158
That's a big fish

>>55335886
I love John Avon's lands but everything else of his is just generic fantasy art.

>>55336234
5 UUU

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>>55336234
Cyclonic Fish begs to differ.

>>55336287
That's Devastation Fish, I'd pay $100 for a Cyclonic Fish

>>55336248
kek

>>55336310
I don't think you could make a cyclonic fish that isn't hilariously broken, unless it has a cast trigger.

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Glad I decided to wait until Ixalan to build Edgar.

>>55336387
This would be an autoinclude if it weren't for the 2W mana cost.
I've even run Kjeldoran Outpost a number of times because it's ability to chump every single turn.

In a deck like Edgar tapping 4 lands every turn to make a 1/1 is not very ideal.
Spending 1 mana to get a 1/1 and a bit of ramp can be nice for a couple turns though.

>>55336491
Anon, it's WHITE MANA RAMP. When the heck does that happen?

>>55336491
Well it's mana ramp basically and it gives you something to dump spare mana on when you don't have anything else to cast, plus it's on theme.

>>55336517
>>55336526
Depends on if it's duel commander or multiplayer.

>>55336543
>>>>>Duel commander

>>55336234
Lay off the plankton, Bugs.

>>55336491
3 mana is very generous to make a token, especially one that can actually attack and also does other things dude. An important note besidses mana ramp has been echoed is that it curves into itself quite well. A 1 drop that is also a 3 drop without spending another card in your hand is a real thing. I know I'll be playing this in Karlov at least since it's a life gaining 1 drop as well as ramp and a repeatable source of lifegain effectively, as well as it fitting perfectly into Karlov's curve.

>>55335309
>That's not bipedal anon

>>55336543
Might still see play in duel commander, because Edgar Markov Vampires is the new boss in town.

>>55336595
It's a thing, and this thread does not specify what kind of commander it's about.

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What cards/plays seem to make the whole table focus you whenever you drop them?

pic related

>Building Legacy Lands Tasigur
>Tasigur is in Chinese, Villainous Wealth isn't.
>Play Gifts in my One-Ban group. Swap it out for Psychic Spiral Against normies
>Currently has 6 X costed spells, 4 mana doublers, 12 one shot ramps, 40 Lands

Anything I should improve on?

>>55335225
>Thread question
Tired to utilise it looking for zombie tribals today, utter bullcrap so far. The decklists in the table mostly have names that let you immediately see what the list is about if it isn't just generic goodstuff.

>>55337326
High Tide, even if I just use it as a ritual to ramp into something simple
Aetherworks Reservoir
Increasing Vengeance in my graveyard
Sage Row Denizen in Inalla
Helm of Chatzuk
Panharmonicon
Strionic Resonator
Casting out literally any commander

>>55336980
>Edgar


Can someone tell me edgar's weakness?

lately every time I see him pop up, the game becomes archenemy to stop the fucking vampire army from gaining steam. Mardu color gives him access to almost every tool he could need and boardwipes aren't enough, from the sheer # of free tokens. Removing edgar once he out helps, but him having haste makes that really difficult too keep up with him.

>>55336387
COUNTER POST IN STANDARD
SIGN ME UP!

>>55337635
Bait him out, then hit him with a Darksteel Mutation or Turn to Frog on a stick.

>found a way to relive the Good Old Days of Stax through EDH
>everyone is eternally angry because they don't run interaction
>oh well, I'll relive the Good Old Days of Storm through EDH
>everyone is eternally angry because they don't run interaction
>oh well, I'll relive the Good Old Days of draw-go control through EDH
>everyone is eternally angry, etc

is it true that EDH is a midrange only format?

>>55337661
>darksteel mutation.

I only have one of these, but to stop the vampire menace I will start grabbing more.

>>55337635
Anti-anthems.
Curse of Death's Hold
Illness in the Ranks
Engineered Plague
Doomwake Giant
Dread of Night
Night of Souls' Betrayal

>>55337326
>Army of the Damned
>Early game Skullbriar+Ordeal of Nylea
>Wrexial the Risen Thief

>>55337326
I was able to pull off the dovescape/elesh combo yesterday. The salt was unreal.

>>55337692
>Illness in the ranks


perfect, I wasn't aware of this card. Thank you anon.

>>55337695
>Early game Skullbriar+Ordeal of Nylea
The salt is real. 2 mana Explosive Vegetation and a +1/+1 counter is apparently too good to ever deal with.

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>>55337635
The real question is Inala.
She's so fucking dumb. For one additional mana you get a second ETB/triggered ability and a hasty attacker. Get panharmonicon or token doubling mechanics out and that's 4 etb triggers, and it just keeps snowballing from there. All for just one colorless mana.
Why was this okayed when Oloro, who gains 2 messily life a turn from the CZ got bitched out relentlessly?

>>55337691
Lignify, Song of the Dryads, and Imprisoned in the Moon. Soul Sculptor + Intruder Alarm also works.

>>55337699
My new favorite Azorius commander is Taigam because I can run Dovescape for free birds

>>55337675
>midrange
you mean combo right?
cause in a 4 player game there is literally no reason not to run insta win combos that dont care about life totals, seeing as how life totals are not only massively inflated but also multiplied by the number of opponents

>>55337326
Blind Obedience.

>>55337731
If Inalla is in play, Panharmonicon allows you to clone twice. Strionic Resonator works even if she's in the CZ.

>>55337771
>multiplied by the number of opponents

When did that happen? My group has never done this

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>>55337326
>tfw she will always be over 20 bucks

Anyways this one for me is always hilarious when I can drop it on the field with my oloro deck

>>55337801
He means if you want to wreck face on a 4 player game you need to deal 120 damage (40 for each opp) total

>>55337635
Night of Soul's betrayal
Spreading plague
Tainted aether
Tainted remedy
Aether Flash
Overburden

Having better creatures than he has Vampires

>>55337795
Also:

>Clone Inalla with some kind of cloning card
>Original dies and goes back to Command Zone
>Now you have 2 of her Eminence trigger
>Plus extras from Strionic and Panharmonicon

>>55337801
They meant that commander as a multiplayer format makes it harder to win through life total damage/lose. Everyone has 40 life, and you have three other opponents.

So 120 life vs 20 life in most other formats

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>>55337815

>>55337727
It's even worse if you manage Hardened Scales>Skullbriar>Ordeal. You will have all the salt.

>>55337834
Yes anon, you're retarded.

>>55337854
Fuck, now I want to build Skullbriar
What all do I need in order to take people on Mr. Bones' Wild Ride?

>>55335225
That new art looks like shit.

>>55337810
Iconic Masters will make her easier for you to buy

>>55337885
Winding Constrictor, Corpsejack Menace, Hardened Scales, Ordeal of Nylea, Verdurous Gearhulk, Ring of Kalonia/Xathrid, Managorger Hydra, Obsessive Skinner, Slitherhead, Quest for the Gemblades, Hunger of the Howlpack, Inspiring Call, Momentous Fall, Solidarity of Heroes, Llanowar Reborn, Increasing Savagery, and a $10 bribe to the guy with the Hapatra deck.

>>55337943
It doesn't matter.
It's not the Phyrexian language Elesh. </3

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I want an old Kokusho, if the odds are good foiled because I think it'd look really pretty. What are the chances that the FTV Kokusho is curled to hell, or the Modern Master 1 foil is curled to hell?

>>55337961
Nobody I play against runs anything with -1/-1 counters. Most of that stuff looks pretty cheap.

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>>55338010
Yup. That's like, the synergistic stuff I run in Skullbriar. The rest is some Golgari good stuff like Rec Sage, Elves of Deep Shadow/Elvish Mystic, Night's Whisper, Hatred and Tainted Strike for wins from nowhere, Cultivate.
Here's the secret spice. Don't tell anyone.

>>55337983
>What are the chances that the FTV Kokusho is curled to hell
About 100% unless steps were taken to flatten the sucker

The good news is that slapping him under a dictionary or something and leaving undisturbed for a few months will render Kohu Puffs or any other FTV foil more or less permanently flat. I've yet to find a downside.

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Enlighten me on zombie tribal, /edhg/. How should your opponents' decks be for you to consistently win? Is it all about Gravecrawler crawling from the grave until his tiny arms grind fall off and spinning Ghoulcaller Gisa right round? It seems to be the only reason shit like death's baron costs as much as it does and he isn't even that good. Is it worth bothering with BUG Sidisi? Lim-Dul?

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>>55338180
No insight on the matter at hand, but I can't believe how much worse the promo art on Jailer is

>>55338223
>worse
It's neat in it's own right.
Spooky waifus are just too strong

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Uncommon Legendary return?

>>55337731
>Why was this okayed when Oloro, who gains 2 messily life a turn from the CZ got bitched out relentlessly?
They decided that, as usual, the players who bitched about it were whiny and wrong. Oloro is boring, but not really a problem.

>>55337961
Don't forget Armory of Iroas, Primal Vigor, Doubling Season, Forgotten Ancient, Reyahn, Varolz, Bloodspore Thrinax, Renegade Karcist, Champion of Lambholt, Necropolis Regent and Oran-Rief.

Also Pentavus is nice because you've got a lack of flying protection.

>>55338273
It is a problem for aggro and non-infinite wincons, which is what the biggest portion of casual crowd is playing

>>55337731
Worth mentioning, Inalla's eminence does NOT work with Panharmonicon.

Panharmonicon says if a *permanent* causes an ETB trigger, it happens twice instead. Inalla's is not a permanent when in your command zone.

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>Shuffling a deck of 99 cards for the very first time
It feels so good

>>55337963
that one got reprinted though, went from $600 to only $150

>>55338334
That doesn't mean you don't get 4 triggers though.
>OG Wizard trigger 1, panharmonicon 2
>Wizard clone trigger 3, panharmonicon on clone 4.

>>55337963
>>55338354
It didn't actually get reprinted but wotc did distribute more of them to judges. The price dropped down to around $200 but looks like it is already back to about $300.

>>55338364
True, just felt like clarifying it since I've seen a lot of people who don't realize it.

>>55338248
Bladewing got the same treatment with a new art to boot.

>>55338403
Good to note, for sure, but it just means she's only stupid instead of retarded

>>55338248
as a person who owns the OG
that new mana symbol hurts me

>>55338382
still $130 on MCM

>>55336387
Main aspect/feature of Vampires throughout all Fantasy lore is that they are Night creatures and their main weakness is sunlight. Why did Magic just drop that? Kinda makes them not Vampires anymore, just dudes that drink blood.
One plane ok, I get that but this is getting lame.

>>55338536
Dracula also wasn't hurt by light only weakened

>>55336387
What other plane had daylight vampires? Innistrad ones were traditional afaik, do you mean the zendikari ones?

>>55338536
Most vampires don't have freezing cold blood or space ripper stingy eyes.

>>55338348
>shuffling a double sleeved deck

this is a damn nightmare.

>>55335270
The face reminds me of Bailey Jay

>>55338650
>not triple sleeving

>>55338334
>>55338403
Note that it does work if she is on the battlefield. If you're clarifying, you want to be very clear since the people you're clarifying for are the sort to miss this kind of thing.

>>55338534
I think all magic cards are just much cheaper in Europe.

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>>55338248
>that colorless mana symbols

>>55338687
hence I clarified the eminence ability doesn't work when in your command zone

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>>55338180
So no smelly flesh enthusiasts in here? For shame

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excuse me fro offtopic post, I am not regular /tg/ visitor.
But, can anyone explain to me how to participate in Ixalan Prerelease on Magic Online

thnx a lot

>>55338683
>not just having 99 ipads with one card image on them

>>55338721
>hence I clarified the eminence ability doesn't work when in your command zone

Yeah, the point is just that you made a blanket statement to start with:
>Inalla's eminence does NOT work with Panharmonicon.

You shouldn't say something and then explain how what you said wasn't completely true, you should go for complete clarity from the start.

>>55338248
She is for use in the Channel Fireball limited deck.

mono-red, mono-black or mono-blue?

>>55338887
Mono blue > Mono black > Mono red

>>55338887
monoblack

cuz it just feels so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7dg8vRDM68

>>55338887
>Mono-red
You can do some things, but not too many.
>Mono-blue
You can do most things, and draw power will cover what you can't.
>Mono-black
You're pretty much playing WUBRG, but somehow all your mana costs only include B.

>>55338054
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-09-17-mr-bones-wild-ride/
Thoughts? Any further suggestions?

>>55335309
Its not a spinosaurus it's a Sailback.

In the same way a Felidar isnt actually a breed of cat, they made up their own fantasy dinosaur species that are based on irl dinosaurs but of course dont exist irl.

>>55338180
doesn't this card play against you? Why would someone use it in a zombie deck?
Just curious

>>55339373
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-09-17-mr-bones-wild-ride/
I'm not a big fan of Evolutionary Escalation. If your opponents don't have creatures or you don't have creatures it does nothing. I'd also cut a few lands, maybe go down to 35, and put in some Regrowth effects to reuse your spells, like EWit, and some more unblockable utility like Shizo and Rogue's Passage.

>>55338949
>>55339086
>>55339245
who'd be good in mono-blue or mono-black if i want to
>draw lots of cards
>take peoples shit
>have answers

>>55339373
Llanowar Reborn, Armory of Iroas, and Fireshrieker.

>>55339595
>draw lots of cards
Azami, Erebos
>take peoples shit
Memnarch, Gonti
>have answers
Baral, Drana

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>>55339373
Vigor Mortis. Stitch Together might also work well.

Putrefy. Why don't you have Putrefy?

>>55339519
In most decks, I find myself not drawing enough lands even with 40. Rogue's Passage and Eternal Witness are both good ideas

>>55338244
>waifu
>visible chest
Anon, I . . .

>>55339693
>I find myself not drawing enough lands even with 40
You are clearly not drawing enough, have no mana rocks, or have a wild expectation of how much mana you need.

>>55339693
I guess shuffle better? I don't have mana screws runnign 34-32 on karador, XGod on 37 and R!Neheb on 35-33

>>55339728
Small breasts are a status symbol, anon. Especially on your waifu (male).

>>55339683
Vigor Mortis and Stitch Together are nice. 3 mana for a single-target removal seems a little mediocre. Back to Nature, Reverent Silence, Tranquility, and Tranquil Grove might be worth running. Creeping Corrosion, Seeds of Innocence, and Nevinyrral's Disk for artifacts, as well.

>>55339733
I usually stop drawing lands by my third or fourth land. Most of my decks have 5-7 mana rocks as well, and I usually draw one. And I mainly run blue decks.

>>55339743
Maybe. It also doesn't help that I'm usually the first target for land destruction and mana rock removal. Also, how does Neheb run? He looks kinda fun.

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My play group has a real problem of not-fucking-attacking-eachother. I want to make a deck to solve this problem.

Post the beat Fight Club commander.

>>55339791
How much draw do you have?
How many turns in your average game?
You are a statistical outlier if what you say is true.

>>55339840
Grenzo for goad.

>>55339840
Fumiko the Lowblood

Help, i like derevi but i dont like lockdown. How should i build her?

>>55339858
Usually 6-8 cantrips, a few
Fact or Fiction-like effects, usually a copy of Blue Sun's Zenith, and digging effects like Sea Gate Oracle. Games sometimes end turn 4-5, sometimes go on for dozens of turns.

>>55339929
Roon.

>>55339929
Bird tribal.
Lots of things that trigger when she ETBs

>>55339944
Then, beyond try shuffling differently, the only thing I can say to you is
>checked

>>55339929
picking a different commander obviously.


In my bad opinion I say try voltron. Good colors, and the ability means you can avoid commander tax when shes removed.

>>55339840
This>>55339887

Extra ways to get the combat phases to never stop:

Avatar of Slaughter
Disrupt Decorum
Grand Melee
Invasion Plans
Warmonger Hellkite

>>55339973
I need to get on that too but one thing at a time. I want to capitalize on her free tax, what are good ways of doing so? Jalira? Im alo thinking about stacking in seedborn muse effects, bounce lands, then flashing out fatties by tiddling that one gilded lotus at damage step, problem is how cumbersome this is. Any must have stuff that i can look at before i get too into a decklist?

>>55337326
Does anyone know if we are getting a continuation to the phyrexian invasion in dominaria? I mean, the last info we got was that Venser managed to bring Karn back, and he is pretty fucking pissed.

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Are there any more card like these /edhg/?
Instant/sorceries that keep lands tapped

>>55337731
>Why was this okayed when Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, who gains 2 messily life a turn from the CZ got bitched out relentlessly?
It seems that the people on R&D take overpowered cards as a challenge to improve upon. Sometimes they fuck up as with Necropotence -> Yawgmoth's Bargain or Oloro -> Eminence.

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>>55340349
Rubble from Reduce to Rubble.

>>55340353
Eminence is such a great mechanic that it got me back into Magic after not playing for years.

>>55337731
The problem with Oloro is not that he gets free value, as a lot of people think. The problem is that there's little reason to ever actually cast Oloro, and instead of playing Oloro they're playing Esper (And so I guess Oloro is my Commander.) Development doesn't care if it's overpowered, they want things to be big and dumb and flashy and powerful. What they don't want is for people playing Commander to be playing goodstuff. They want build around commanders, and tribal is a way to force that.

>>55340187
Phyrexia story has so much stuff to finish that I don't know what is taking so long for Wizards to come to a closure, I just hope that they don't fuck it up.

>>55340349
turnabout can give the same effect when you cast it at their upkeep but they get that moment to cast instants, flash effects, use abilities that cost mana, or counterspell it

>>55340478
Was trying to build taigam so I could rebound the spells and basically lock them out of a turn
I might still use turnabout

>>55340349
Hokori, Dust Drinker + Eon Hub
Stasis + Eon Hub
Rising Waters + Eon Hub
Back to Basics

Who else hype for this bitch? I am thinking about taking apart my mono black deck so i can run this as the commander

>>55339373

hmmm
evol escalation into Decree of Savagery
clear the land into sakura tribe elder: is losing cards and ramping opponents really worth it? Tribe elder also gives you a chump blocker and sac triggers
blighted shaman into evolutionary leap or alters reap
primal rage into bramblewood paragon or tuskguard captain
Other things that would be neat: Rishkar's Expertise, Rishkar himself, Soul's Majesty, Mighty emergence

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>>55340529
Damn forgot pic

>>55340529
way better white black out there

I saw that there was a myriad landscape type card in WG that could get duals, is there one for other colors or just GW?

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>>55340603

>>55340538
Into my Edgar deck she goes

>>55340538
>>55340529

Not at all.

The ability is costly 7 life + tap, but the restriction really hinders it. Repeatable Instant speed non-land destruction on legs seems great, but what is the point if you can only do it on your turn?

Also its a card just asking to be removed before you untap

>>55340603
There's multipe cards that search by Forest, Mountain, etc. that can get you non-basics. They're mostly green, like Farseek and Spoils of Victory. The Xcycling cards also work.

>>55340659
no I mean a land that can tap for 2 to sac it and go find 2 lands to get into play

>>55340642
how many untap effects are in white/black at instant speed?

>>55340659
Oh and apparently the mirage fetches can do that too.

>>55340687
Nope, just Myriad and Crosan Verge:
http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3A%7B2%7D%2C+o%3ASacrifice+t%3A%22Land%22+c%3Al&v=card&s=cname

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>>55340687
This one? Judgment had a serious GW bias, there's not gonna be anything like it, but there's a few other fun GW land cards out of the set too.

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Wincons? I want to play with an enchantments/tokens theme

>>55340688
off the top of my head, none? Flickering it would untap, which is easy in white, but wouldnt let you tap it.

Pilla pala can help you untap.

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Well, I picked my first EDH deck from LGS today but I forgot to buy a deckbox. I'm using the cheapest ultra pro deckboxes for my budget decks but I want something slightly better for this deck. Is the satin tower really worth it or are there any other good alternatives?

>>55340823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZbkW7aafkU

>>55340852
satin tower is fantastic.

>>55340731
Could it work in a Omnath 2.0 deck or it's too slow?

>>55340449
But, shocker, nobody ever casts Inalla either. You're asking to get punished for it by actually casting her when you can still clone from the command zone.

With the new Kokusho art, I had to build a deck for him.

>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kokusho-returns/

Any thoughts? It's just about wiping the board, reanimating stuff and winning through attrition. Not the best deck, but looks like fun. Also have like 80% of the cards already and shouldn't be too expensive.

>>55340823
ramp up, use mana doubles, and white sun zenith.

>>55340460
Wizards has said that Phyrexia is the final, be all end all, baddy of MTG as so long as they stay within the current "Universe" and don't reset the entire story they will be there.

>>55340886
Try reading the other half of the post. You still have to play wizards instead of "Grixis"

>>55340886
Atleast Inalla asks to be built around with Wizards/Wizard ETB and requires you actually play those cards.

Oloro just sits in your zone granting 2 life a turn, and doesnt require the rest of your deck to do anything other then be esper colors

>>55340884
Unless there's some jank that I missed to make lands in your library all types you could never find a Plains, it'd be worse than Evolving Wilds.

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>>55337326

>>55340923
Yeah, it was definitely a stupid, little thought out question.
I'm just building that deck and as soon as I read "land" and "put into play" I basically ignored everything else

>>55340884

you cant run any plains in an omnath 2.0 deck so no it doesnt work

>>55340852
Satin Tower is awesome. Definitely worth it, one of the best deck boxes out there IMO.
Ultimate Guard Monolith is also pretty good.

>>55339245
>You're pretty much playing WUBRG, but somehow all your mana costs only include B.
Except the part where if someone plays problematic enchantments or artifacts you're basically fucked

What would be the best commander for Splice/Arcane Spellslinger.

>>55341021
*?
My bad

>>55341021
Jori En is a pretty good general spellslinger.

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>>55340969
That'd do it. Well if you ever do a GW deck, definitely keep it and the other neat lands from Judgment in mind.
I never did bother to look into sensible ways to get Riftstone Portal into a graveyard though.

>>55341050
So a good arcane package for her might be Crack the Earth, Desperate Ritual, Eerie Procession, Evermind, Eye of Nowhere, Ideas Unbound, Lava Spike, Murmurs from Beyond, Peer Through Depths, Petals of Insight, Psychic Puppetry, Reach Through Mists, Reweave, Sift Through Sands, Toils of Night and Day, and Veil of Secrecy?

>>55341076
Pop it with Ghost Quarter? In Naya/Bant, it'd be easy to dump with filter/loot effects.

>>55340448
That's sweet to hear, honey, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a mechanical disaster.

>>55341130
It looks pretty good to me, though on second thought Riku might be a better choice. I don't know for sure but I think if you splice a bunch of stuff onto one spell and then pay for Riku's ability you'd double all the effects.

>>55341163
Ah, yes, the esteemed and mature Magic community. I almost forgot.

>>55341185
Splice works like that, yeah. And Riku could work well. I just need a way to keep him alive

>>55340905
I'm waiting for our Phyrexian Emrakul

>>55337326
my friends know what deck im playing cause of my commander so if I pick em im instantly the target

>>55341221
Why are you on 4chan if your poor feefees can't handle light banter?

>>55341163
>it's a mechanical disaster.
Only 25% of the time.

>>55341299
Why are you on 4chan if you get triggered by people disagreeing with you honey?

>>55337582
>Sage Row Denizen
Pardon?

>>55341299
I'm just pointing out that maybe you should wait until you're 18 before you get on here.

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>>55341330
I assume he means Sage's Row Denizen. Clone it to mill people for 8 every time you get a blue wizard ETBing. Hit it with a Rite of Replication and watch people die.

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>>55341326
>>55341338

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>>55341326
>>55341338

>>55341330
>Try to run janky as fuck mill (between Inalla and other clone effects, cover my field in Sage Row Denizen, Manic Scribe, and Stern Mentor; even running Raven Guild Master)
>Everyone freaks out and focuses me because clearly mill is a bigger threat than anything else

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>>55341371
>>55341383
>samefagging this obviously

>>55338670
Mow every time i see that card played ill be tempted to fap to that shit

>>55340422

Where do you get these nice hi-res card images?

>>55341425
Scryfall.com
Really should replace magiccards.info in the OP.

>>55337983
My foil kokusho mm is good. No curves.

>>55341076
crop rotation, sylvan safekeeper, zuran orb if you are desperate. edge of autumn if you are even more desperate.

>>55341411
I'd post a screenshot of the (You) but we all know how worthless that is

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>>55341411
How much of a newfag can you be? Anyone who lurks here knows that with just looking at the timestamps.

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art for this card is just spot on

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This is my favorite Commander ever. I love the way Orzhov plays.

>>55339822
Well of course you're gonna be short on lands if people keep blowing them up from you. If that's a very common occurence, you might wanna try packing something to protect your lands from getting fucked.

>>55341383
>>55341492
nice falseflags, this is an expert at work

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>>55341553
And Todd Lockwood art too.

>>55341553
>Combo degeneracy
>3 mana commander, so probably a tryhard spike
>Thinking that's fun
This is the cancer killing EDH

>>55341572
I have the Rebecca Guay Path in the deck. I still need a Mana Crypt, an Imperial Seal, and a Dark Confidant to complete the deck but ill pick those up when im able to.

What's the edhg preferred way of sharing a decklist?

>>55341605
tappedout?

>>55341562
Might start running Tidal Control until they stop.

>>55341585
Here's a (You)

>>55341553
first commander I build, I love her. bought an academy rector and a scroll rack for her the other day now all I'm missing is land tax.

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>>55341585

>>55341610
Anything that doesn't need a login?
I'm really tired of making singleuse logins for places like that

>>55341585
The Darkest Hour combo is sweet. I love the 7th edition art and even without the combo in play, she still exiles the hell out of peoples dumb Timmy plays.
Yes I am super tryhard because I like to win but the gameplay style is something I enjoy. If i was extreme try hard id just play Prossh, Zur, or Jeleva desu.

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This is my favorite Commander ever. I love the way Azorius plays.

>>55341639
>Timmy plays
>Dumb
>Implying that it's not the way Magic was meant to be played

>>55341665
I dont care good luck getting creatures to stick with Grave Pact + her in play.

>>55337326
Vedalkan Orrery
Authority of the Consuls

I don't understand the people I play with.

>>55335270
Confirm suspicions but good. I can confirm this card is standard playable. In u/w or bant deck with token doublers this card can just win on the spot.

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>>55341664
Don't mind me, just being the best commander passing through

>>55341664
>tfw you want to play Azorius but it's an unspoken houserule for most people you face regularly that anything with both white and blue but not five color is the first target for everyone else

>>55341687
Control was a mistake.

>>55341713
I had that problem

then I brewd up the most P U R E control deck I could think of and I find it hard to lose even to mono reds like this guy >>55341705 and zozu, still have troubles but if I make the right decisions theres always a way to win

>>55341713
>play sen triplets
>people see my commander
>start ganging up on me mercilessly

extremely rude.

>>55336517
White is pretty good at ramp, this just makes them better.

>>55341734
Back to your Craw Wurm table.

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How do I make demon tribal good? It's high on CMC, has some haste effects, but is generally not consistent enough, even with some major paying health/reanimation shenanigans

>>55340349
mana short and turnabout to tap them the first time.

>>55341747
I'm thinking about running Jund Stax out of spite.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-09-17-zyI-krenko/

rate/hate/populate

>>55341705
Agreed.

>>55341818
the only actual decks I have issues with are other blue control decks (which im fine losing too since its a playstyle I respect) or any kind of storm win, if I have one of the 5 spells that can save me from that then I just win but if not I gotta be careful and make the right counter

>>55341770

>play a land

Wasteland

>play 1 drop mana dork

Bolt

>play a spell on curve

Daze

>play a spell on curve

Force of Will

>wow, so much fun

>>55341752
That's what you get for having 3 commanders

>>55341860
Cry more

>>55340852
Satin tower and monolith if you have dice
Ultimate guard boulder if not
>>55340538
Not going in granddaddy eddie

>>55341860
>implying this actually happens
This ain't Leviathan.

>>55341860
Best feelings I have had against one of my friends is to Mental Mistep his T1 dork or strip mine his T1 tapland and see him in topdeck mode for 10 turns. Stifling a fetch works as well.

>>55341860
>no removal hurts my feefees
>let's just play "put cards on the table and clap your hands"
>everyone wins! Yay!

>>55341940
>One person spends $1000+ on a tryhard control deck
>Everyone else running <$40 battlecruiser for fun

>>55341633
Why would it be single use? It's a great resource for brewing and tweaking decks.

>>55340538
all the potentially good abilities get slapped with an "only during your turn" licia has the same problem. god forbid you do something during your opponents turn.

>>55341860
t. never played control

>>55341975
its the control players fault for playing against shit

he should have a bulk rare deck on the side for when he has to play with children and retards

>>55341986
Haven't used it yet and don't plan to afterwards

>>55341975
>i'm such a spineless worm that i'm unable to open my mouth and politely ask to the rich gentleman in front of me to play something more appropriate to the power level of the rest of the table

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>>55340852
i'm not a huge fan of these. i can't stand how they feel. i use a dex box. it holds 2 decks easily altho the little dice divider is kind of a drag.

i'm actually curious about other options myself, but overall the dex box is amazing.

>>55341998
Magic isn't a game about interaction. It's about building up armies and facing off in combat. The only effects that should exist for use on an opponent's turn are combat tricks.

>>55341975
>One person spends $1000+ on a tryhard X deck
>Everyone else running <$40 Y for fun
Control is not the problem, the player is

>>55341940

have fun playing solitaire, you gigantic faggot

>>55335340
S P E E D S T E R

>>55341998
Yeah its part of the way they are dumbing down the game. You saw it in Portal 3 Kingdoms which was fine since it was a beginner set meant to teach people how to play, but you saw the "Only activate this on your turn before combat". Now its coming back to make the game accessible to new players because new players hate responses.

Is Yeva draw-go the true patrician way of playing monoG? Teach me some good tricks to do with her, please.

>>55342017
>not wanting to waste money on a casual, once-or-twice a month thing makes you a child or a retard

>>55342022
>Implying I haven't already tried

>>55342018
How preconceived of you, why not?

>>55342052
There's only one acceptable monoG commander and that is good ol' manaball

>>55342072
Don't feel like it, simple as that.
XMage is a way better way of making decks, for one

>>55342063
yes it does, he needs to have a shitty deck to play with children or retards

>>55342092
I respect your opinion but you're wrong.

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Trying to build Anafenza. How do? (I'm primarily a combo player and she seems way too open ended.)

>>55342052
Temur Sabertooth to dodge removal and reuse ETBs
Invasive Species
Mana sinks so you can just threaten with cards in hand

>>55342063
>Implying I haven't already tried
Then tell him he's not welcome at your table, it's not hard unless you got your testicles removed as a kid

>>55342063
>Hey guys, I know you've been playing since the beginning of magic and keep dropping hundreds into the game, but I want to come up with my 10$ craw wurm tribal and wreck serious face
It's perfectly in their right to refuse playing suboptimal crap if they enjoy another style of game. Timmy shit rarely bearable once you have a grasp of how the game works. Stay with the game for a couple of years, you will understand.

>>55342017
Why should he bother to have a deck for table he clearly doesn't belong to?

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Are you already making a list of Ixalan cards for your Edgar deck?

>>55342103
>implying that spending hundreds of dollars on a game isn't the act of retards and children

>>55342154
lifeline and boardwipes

>>55342184
>being this butthurt about not having money to throw left, right and center
They have a special little thing, called a job

>>55342184
>not having expendable income
retard

>>55342181
why should you bother playing a game you dont belong to?

>>55342184
t. poorfag underage

>>55342170
Can't kick people out at the LGS

>>55342181
>Hey guys, I know you rarely show up and play budget decks because this isn't a major thing for you, but I'm going to join your game with my $1000+ deck I got from daddy's money and make you guys less inclined to keep playing

>>55342154
Hate bears
abzan +1/+1 counters

>>55337326
Archangel avacyn, my combos are too hit

>>55342249
18+

>>55342214
>using lowest common denominator to represent the game
Because there are people who actually aren't obnoxious to be around?

>>55342214
>Having expendable income, and using it on things you care about more and games you play more often, that actually have a mature community not consisting entirely of millenials

>>55342272
Wish I could tell that to the babies at the LGS.

>>55342249
>Can't kick people out at the LGS
You don't have to you absolute retard
>Hey guys, I know you rarely show up and play budget decks because this isn't a major thing for you, but I'm going to join your game with my $1000+ deck I got from daddy's money and make you guys less inclined to keep playing
"No, we're playing budget, we prefer to keep it that way"

>>55342183
That, mavren, bloodcrazed paladin and unclaimed territory so far

>>55342249
Unless you're a massive pussy, just tell him to fuck off.

>>55342181
If you make a hypertuned deck, it's not outrageous to have a lower power level deck. Don't be a faggot

>>55342214
>using lowest common denominator to represent the game
Because there are people who actually aren't obnoxious to be around?

>>55342278
>all these implications about having and enjoyable life, responsibilities and being a respectable member of society
Fell free to leave this japanese manaweaving subforum any time and never return

>>55342320
We are talking lightyears of difference

>>55342249
You have serious problems at comunicating and interacting socially, seek help.

>>55342320
>either getting crapped upon every game or admitting you'll never win unless that person allows you to
There isn't an option where you are not a pussy

>>55342278
Jesus fuck the butthurt is intense

>>55342379
>this deck is so much better than mine!
>but I can't admit that it's better than mine...
>I know!
>I'll bitch about it on an anonymous Sumatran gardening forum!

>>55342434
Seems reasonable, if you don't want to start a writing career

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>>55340945
>flashing it in before someone's end of turn

>>55342379
Either suck it up and tell the guy to tone it down or suffer. It's not hard

>>55341445
It's nowhere near as fast though. Scryfall has shit modern web design so it takes twice as long to find the card you want to see. It has incredible scans but literally nothing else as good as magiccards.info

Yo I know chaos is frowned upon but is it like MLD where you should win off of it in the next few turns and it's cool? I'm asking because I'm thinking about putting Thieve's Auction/Scrambleverse into a Zedruu deck for the super sweet draw/life gain potential.

>>55342545
It's fun on paper, but when you try to resolve it people just get sad over amount of shit they have to resolve with no percievable progress

>>55342513
>literally nothing else as good as magiccards.info
>be on info
>"Hey this has some nice artwork."
>"Let's see more by the artist!"
>"What's the syntax for search by artist again?"
>"Whatever, guess I'll go back to the search."
>displays card and details so you have to scroll through everything
>be on scryfall
>"Hey this has some nice artwork."
>click on the artist's name
>displays in rows so you can see more cards

>>55342154
Persist, Voltron, Stax, Processors, Hatebears. Really up to you.

>>55342545
You need a damn good reason to do it and not cause groans. Like a Sudden Disappearance before it

>>55342637
>Sudden Disappearance
Get with the times gramps, it's all about Teferi's Protection now.

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>>55342656
It was the first card that came to mind. Leave me alone

>>55342303
>Hey guys I saw you all have $1000 decks and I wondered if you'd mind if I use proxies in mine

>Yeah ok We understand if You don't want to spend that kind of money on the game

>>55342615
Here's a protip for the technologically illiterate: change from "View as Cards with Scans" to "View as Scans only" and you get the same row display as on scryfall

>>55335340
AYO HOL UP

>>55342637
But the whole point is that I'd want people to take my stuff so I could get mad card draw off of zedruu

>>55342570
So is there one that is easy to resolve? Something like "put all permanents/non land permanents into a pile. Shuffle the pile and deal the cards out evenly?" I can understand why Scrambleverse would be an ass-ache and could see theive's auction taking for ever to deal with. But It's just such a nifty interaction that could give me extreme advantage. Especially If you choose mostly other peoples stuff and then cast brand to get all of your shit back.

I guess I am asking for help being a fag but not a turbo-fag.

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With umbral mantle

>>55342767
Won't work because people use different sleeves. It's just such a pain to deal with and nobody is having fun except the caster who's grinning like an idiot thinking everyone's having fun.

>>55342896
neat

i'll add that to my spice rack

>>55340538
Any potential here for knight tribal?

>>55341076
H A R R O W
A
R
R
O
W

>>55342896
I can taste the flavor.

>>55343100
Just use Edgar instead.

>>55341076
Dust Bowl is fun.

Im trying to build a ruhan deck based around making everyone attack and pillowfort cards to prevent them from attacking me. any advice on what to add/cut?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-09-17-test-3/

>>55341633
mtg goldfish

>>55342615
Stay slow, scrub. magiccards.info is for powerusers.

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>>55343482
>>55343482
>>55343482
>>55343482

>>55337675
Depends on the playgroup.