Fate of Konor: AND THE WINNER IS...!!

>>55334118
As an outsider looking in, how much does the narrative change depending on who wins the most battles, and what faction is playing them? The Eldar are mentioned in this write-up, am I to assume this means the most common alien faction was Eldar, and they mostly fought Chaos with a little Imperium? Would the narrative have changed if the most common alien faction was, say, Necron?

>>55334118
>So, how is GW going to deal with this in regards to advancing the plot?
They announce the system that barely anyone had heard of before, safely and securely fades back into obscurity.

Campaign Starts
>Majority of your player base is Imperium
>Space Marine & Grey Knight Codex released
>Primaris Marines released (which can be taken in any army)
>Double points for buying new models
>All new models are Imperium
>Last day addition to Chaos is Death Guard (Fuck me for playing Iron Warriors right?)

How is GW going to deal with this in regards to advancing the plot?

Looks like just as planned to me.

>>55334324
If it was just as planned, they wouldn't have had to manipulate some numbers for chaos wins

>>55334324
That deck was stacked

>>55334333
Thats part of why they had to manipulate the numbers for chaos wins, if Imperium had gotten the shutout in round round three, engagement would have dropped because why spend a few more weeks playing a campaign you have no hope of winning?

>>55334357
They wanted a bitter, hard fought Imperium victory not a total shutout. A shutout would have hurt the non-imperium player base.

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>>55334324

How do we make Chaos more attractive to the pre-teens and manchildren that flock to play Space Marines?

>>55334118
Carnac hardest hit.

>>55334333
For somebody who hasn't been following the campaign at all, what did they manipulate?

>>55334498

At least one of the planets initially showed Imperial victory (with the icon, description and everything) until GW came out and said "actually, victory points were supposed to be calculated THIS way" and they changed it to a Chaos victory.

Funny thing is that Chaos would have easily won the last round. GW have been reallocating Imp wins from the previous round to the current one to shore up their momentum. Can't say I 'm complaining though, being a Custodes player and all.

>>55334388
>hurt the non-imperium player base
Considering how many xenos characters were working against Chaos, I'm not sure how true that is.

>>55334446
It was he Horus Heresy novels that brought me to chaos. Loyalists are insufferable dicks.

>>55334481
>"B-Buh muh Chaos is invincible and destined to win everything forever."
Carnac BTFO

>>55334446
Once puberty hits, all those pre-teens will taste the edge and flock to Chaos naturally.

>>55334728

Loyalists were written to be unreasonable and insufferable so that Chaos might have some justification other than "we're evil and sold our souls"

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>>55334728
BL CSM
>muh truth
>emprah so bad
>chaos is best stepdad
Codex CSM
>band of screaming retards

>>55334498
The first planets were aggregated score from the 3 regions
Chaos won planet 4 due to plague releases but obviously they messed up the timings in releasing them too late
So planet 5 they were losing aggregate and this showed on the main map but were slightly ahead in 1 zone and draw in another. The automatic ending script put is imperial win with imperial win fluff in the zones
Then suddenly the fluff changed to chaos win
People complained and Facebook statement was that wins are based on regions won (bollocks since the main display was always clearly aggregate not simple Thirds)
Then with this final week they started as zones won but uk and eu were pretty solid imperial with only USA chaos (and they gave the USA zone special fluff so they could turn a USA win for chaos into meaning the other zones didn't count)
So they quietly switched back to aggregate and kept going beyond the time limit
But since USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida they failed

>>55334867
>But since USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida they failed
It's more than just that. At my local GW store the Xenos (read: 95% Orks) came in 2nd in terms of total victory points gained after the Imperium, and before Chaos. The Ork players were divided, some were anti-Imperium (one Ork guy was pulling the weight for two of Chaos' victories in the store for 4 weeks before he stopped caring because regular Chaos players couldn't get their shit together), others were firmly anti-Chaos, and I played took points from both sides like a proppa' Freeboota git. It feels like Chaos forgot that the Loebos section lasted more than one week, and it cost them big time.

It wasn't just Texas and Florida that were being hit by Mother Nature, by the by. the Pacific Northwest/Montana has had rampant forest fires for the last couple months.

>>55334324
Considering they've been teasing the release of a new Primarch recently (not Morty, another one), I'd assume the next step in the plot will be Rowboat taking the fight to the Death Guard's little foothold in the Ultramar region to kill him/push him out of Ultramar for good.

That or they're going to finally tell us that the Lion was secretly a traitor all along, but he's just been too much of a coward to come out and admit it for the last 10,000 years.

>>55335187
American chaos players seem to love losing so they can whine about things being fixed

>>55335272
>American chaos players seem to love losing so they can whine about things being fixed
Given how GW screwed over Chaos by ending the Eye of Terror campaign two weeks ahead of schedule and declaring a stalemate back in the day (a campaign they were winning handily at the time), can you blame Chaos players for being so salty about this sort of thing? GW already burned the old guard of Chaos players once with company interference in a player-driven campaign, so their cynicism toward this campaign (especially since the Death Guard just got their codex AFTER Konor ends) is justifiable.

t. Ork Freeboota since back in 3e.

>>55334118
Suck a moldy dick you chaos faggots!

>>55334338
This is pretty fair, I mean, just how many Xenos factions even have reason to give their wins to Chaos, unless maybe directly fighting Imperials (and even then)?
Eldar(and their alternatives)? They fucking hate Chaos.
Necrons? They don't brook with Chaos.
T'au? It's a stretch to side them with Chaos
Nids? Could go either way.
Orkz? As above.
So Chaos are pretty much in it by themselves.

>>55335415

That's the problem with being omnicidal maniacs with no appeal

>>55334814
Well they've drank the Chaos kool-aid for 10/11k years so they're shadows of their former selves.

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>>55334867
>But since USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida they failed
Should we rename Hurricane Irma into The Storm of the Emperor's Displeasure?

>>55335551
I find most of the Chaos Lords of Fantasy more interesting that the 40K ones.

>>55334118
>The Imperium by a score of 4 to 2!
Noice.
Fuck Chaos scum.

>>55334867
Fuck off with your politics BS

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>>55334446

There kind of borng as afaction, all edge and no substance

when were you when chaos lost?

i was sat at home wanking over matt ward when G-man ring

‘Chaos is kill’

‘no’

>>55334867
>But since USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida they failed

>Implying Hillaryshills would play the ugh, racist and un-progressive Imperium full of fucking white males

>>55335800

They exist as villans, with no real motivation other then antaganizing the imperium

>>55335873
I think they play holier than thou xenos like Tau

>>55334446
Well for one, maybe actually release something besides Space Marines and only Space Marines for starters

>>55334118
Last game of the campaign

>join in about a full turn late
>fluff it as reinforcements for ultramarine allies, being blood angels we owe them a great debt
>Death company and Chaplain Lemartes deployed in the ruins of a nearby settlement
>A strange rift opens outside the towns walls
>Mercenary group of orks, persuaded by the foul god Tzeentch to assist his forces
>Filthy Xenos scum
>Direct my lost brothers forward
>Absolutely obliterate the deff dread in our opening inferno pistol salvo
>bolter fire shreds a few boyz
>our assault packs hammer us into the heart of a huge mob
>strangely our impact has no effect on the green tide
>rip and tear the xenos filth with chainsword and thunderhammer
>overrun the mob and sweep into the commanding nobz
>pitiful creatures fail to dent our holy plate
>reduce the monsters to paste before routing the rainbow daemons
>lose no battle brothers this day
>it will be a grim time for Astorath


I honestly felt bad for the kid playing orks. He was tabled on the second turn from a 15 death company and lemartes list

>>55334446
Add hormones to the water so boys hit puberty and become edgy faster

>>55335895

They would definitely play Tau. The whole progressive mindset is based on bashing your own group and declaring some other group superior. In other words, doing the opposite of what bigots do in order to claim complete superiority. Seriously, you see it at every level: Contempt for their own country (especially colonies like the US, Canada, and Australia), for white people (especially among whites, for whom white guilt has advanced to the point of suicidal thoughts), for men (especially among progressive men), for the West, and for humanity in general. It's so fashionable and trendy it's actually sickening.

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>Abaddon and the Bringers of Despair took part for a single engagement as part of a deal with Mortarian to keep his support in other theaters of war.
>It consisted of a brutal invasion that ravaged most of Lobeos.
>Along the way Abaddon was able to procure many relics but eventually attracted the attention of the Grey Knights and was driven off.

>>55334612
Xenos players don't count. GW's made it clear that their kind ain't welcome around these here parts.

>>55334118
>So, how is GW going to deal with this in regards to advancing the plot?
Well if ADB or Laurie is writing it (though I think Laurie's already left for now), then we're soon going to find out that Chaos was only trying to pretend to win the Konor sector, but that they've actually succeeded in completing some super secret never before mentioned objective that means that Chaos actually overwhelmingly won even though it looks like they lost.

>>55336350
Ha! Take that, Imperial dogs!

>>55336350
>studio and finance side force imperial narrative nonstop by releasing only space marine Imperials
>as a result of things being hilariously one sided, black library authors compensate by skewing to the complete opposite

BL wouldn't be so bad if the Imperium were reighned in every once and a while

>>55334446
It's hard, because Chaos is pretty much designed to be villains where most of them are driven by bitterness or greed. It's not a attractive faction for most players.
I mean, we have some warbands/legions with better ideas, but in general they're just a edgy faction

>>55336500
No, ADB has massive daddy issues and hates the Emperor because his pa didn't love him so obviously no father can. Chaos would be wanked even harder if GW didn't demand more Marines.

What needs to happen is it takes a back seat for a while as it reels from its losses and other foes step forward.

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>>55336350
>Laurie leaves
>Novels get better almost overnight
>The GOAT 40k writer returns with one of the 40k best series of all time

>>55336605
Are you really trying to say that the traitor Primarchs hating the emperor as a shitty dad is bad? It's believable as shit and the scenario has happened hundreds of times in human history

>>55336316
Fuck off Chaos, you're just bitter you lost.

>>55336749
It is bad because they were all of them fully grown men before the emperor found them, and on top of that they're demigod superhumans who should be above and beyond such petty nonsense.

>>55336749
I'm trying to say "Chaos is all-powerful and unaffected by anything and automatically wins forever because reasons" is stupid, as is "the Emperor never cared about anyone he's evil but Horus also Abaddon is the bestest and highest chosen of the gods but also a totally self-made man with a daemon sword more powerful than the Emperor that doesn't just immediately eat his soul because he's *that* good".

>>55336749
>Are you really trying to say that the traitor Primarchs hating the emperor as a shitty dad is bad?
Yes, Aaron, it's bad because it gets boring really fast. These guys hate dad so much they ruined their lives and got space magic AIDS just to exclaim 'Take that daddy!'. It's pathetic and pitiful.

>>55336808
>They were fully grown men
You don't suddenly become experienced and wise when you get older anon. The majority of people on the earth make childish decisions. Being fully grown doesn't have anything to do with it.

>>55336818
Don't forget the whole. "Chaos guys are just misunderstood! They really do feel bad about murdering billions of innocent people and condemning their souls to eternal torment but the big bad ol' emperor is the REAL bad guy!"

>>55336859
You do if you want to become the leader of a planet.
Which most of them did.

>>55336873
>TFW the baby-eating space terrorist who routinely tortures people to death for the lulz complains the Emperor is evil and he must fight him

>>55336825
Most traitor primarchs never really wanted to be chaos slaves.
Angron became a DP through Lorgar "magic", Magnus was tricked by Tzeentch, Mortarion was to weak to resist Nurgle's "gifts", Fulgrim was corrupted by his sword. Curze hated Chaos and Alpharius thought he was on the right side.
I think that only Horus can be really counted as having daddy issues, and Lorgar the only one that took chaos to the heart

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CHAOSFAGS
ON
SUICIDE
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCHHH

>>55338030
On chaos spawn watch*

Corrected that for you

>>55336808
Jaghatai Khan disliked the Emperor on a personal level, and his best friends were Horus and Magnus. He just didn't care about his personal opinions because he felt that the Emperor's goal of elevating humanity was much more important than his feelings about his supposed family.

This is because Jaghatai is an adult.

>>55338974
>Roboute becomes disillusioned with the Emperor and the Imperium in Dark Imperium
>Yet he never becomes disillusioned with humanity and continues fighting to make things better instead of whining about it and wallowing in negativity and how he'd been wronged.

Loyalists confirmed for best, and most based.

>>55338974
>>55339065

There has to be a "The Virgin Traitor / The Chad Loyalist" meme image kicking around somewhere

>>55339101
Make it anon. Step up to the plate

>>55339174

Not gonna be back on my PC for a few hours yet

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Do this campaign, guys! You get points for painting new things! Btw, here is a constant stream of releases for all you space Marine players and t- what? No shut up chaos players. And here's a new Codex for your Marines an- christ, shut up death guard. Anyway, here's the the chaos Codex, but wait here the grey knights Codex with a bunch of new stuff for you grey knights players you can convert! God. No you still don't have anything new, chaos shut the fuck up already. Anyways, here's another Marine release. Oh damn. Looks like imperials won the campaign. Oh well. Here's Deathguard Codex with a single kit release, but don't worry imperials, we have another Marines release, too.

Wew

>>55339467
You see, this line of thought would make sense if GW didn't literally change he results of week five and also added a caveat to week six that would let chaos win the whole damn campaign wit ONE territory controlled

>>55338030
Anything that makes Chaosfags cry makes my day.

>>55339467
How anyone can say Chaos got BTFO is beyond me. This wasn't even a remotely fair campaign

>>55339467
Hmmm delicious faggy chaos tears. I hope you never get another campaign so we don't have to deal with your bullshit crying.

>>55339575
Yeah. Especially week five where GW changed a chaos win to imperium and set up week six so that the imperium only had to win in their strongest region to win the entire campaign
Oh wait

>>55339764
they were doing that as a scrambling panic because they stupidly didn't realize how horribly they fucked it up, so they tried to add tension only to make it even more botched

If GW makes another campaign, I hope they keep chaos players out of it. Bunch of whiners and cry babies;

>>55335873
I feel like the idea of a united humanity appeals to liberals myself included. DESU chaos works better as freedom fighters than generic we sold our souls to demons so we are ebil bad guys.

>>55336011
Is this what conservatories think? Christ you are dumb and brain washed if you think all liberals are like that.

>>55339883
> New campaign Orks vs Eldars
> But don't worry, other factions can contribute!

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>>55340114
>Only two candidates were a socialist and a stronk-womyn with a criminal record that parroted everything the socialist said

>>55340123
Orks vs Nids could actually work since everyone else has a vested interest in making sure they both lose as much as possible.

ITS NOT FAIR! Imperium always fucking wins EVERYTHING and chaos losses everything. Thanks for nothing you xenofags.

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>>55340203
> Xenos players areessentially the reason that Chaos didn't get completely stomped
> It's their fault Chaos couldn't win
Step up to the plate a little more next time so my Kaballites don't have to drag you around kicking and screaming to victory.

>>55340084
>I feel like the idea of a united humanity appeals to liberals myself included
Since there are no aliens irl, the Imperium would be more like a ultranationalist nation with supremacist ideals.

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>>55340203
>Constantly shits on xenos, calling them NPCs and lesser villains doomed to languish under the shadow of Chaos forever
>Surprised xenos don't want to help you
Eat shit Chaoscuck.

>>55340123
Awh yiss, Guardsman here, gonna side with Ynnari Bros because they hate Chaos more than me and because Yvraine is Guilliman's wife

>>55336673
Who is this goat writer and what's the new series? Looking for some novels to dive into.

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>>55340123
Time to come to the aid of mai waifu!

>>55340632
Abnett finally releasing the next Gaunt's Ghosts, you fool.

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CODEXED

>>55340669
guillliman plz

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>Imperiumfags in this very thread are proud of their victory
Jesus Christ way to prove you're dickheads, that's like being proud of winning a boxing match in a 2v1 fashion while the crowd is blind and the ref is your best friend who you owe money to.
I'm not mad my team lost I predicted that as soon as it became obvious it was fixed back in week 2 and even when Chaos won those two planets and GW announced "last planet wins the system" I knew it was going to be an Imperium win.
I'm just disgusted by how proud you stupid fuckers are, how many Primaris marines did you idiots buy?

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>>55340123
I have to help the Orks, I like the Eldar aesthetically but their souls belong to Slaanesh.

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>>55340790
>I'm not mad my team lost

>>55334118
My lot managed to play every week, almost always Imperium vs Chaos (with the occasional ork interlopers). Chaos was getting pasted early on until I got some more stuff painted and the presence of options helped make games more even.

My dudes were Crimson Slaughter contributing to Morty's plans, while some relatively generic guard regiment took horrific casualties in pretty much every engagement but often managed to hold the line, with or without occasional space marine aid (a smattering of BTs, Crimson Fists and Dark Angels).

Orks regularly got wiped out with the exception of a counts-as Ghazkull, who tore everything apart and went down a total of one time, even then that was a contentious cocked dice incident involving a melta gun.

Another friend brought his Ad Mech and Knight over occasionally and generally had a good showing. Phosor laden Kastelans are mean as fuck, and forced Chaos to hide out of LoS. They were on the defensive that mission, however, so the Mechanicus had to get stuck in at close range.

Overall I really enjoyed it, and it gave me additional impetus to get stuff painted up. I do wish that the resulting fluff was more granular, rather than each planet being a total win/loss regardless of the exact balance of power and how each region turned out.

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>>55340825
>tfw Chaos was devoured by Nids at my LGS, allowing the Imperium to win quite handily

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>>55340815
Get with the lore, son.

>>55340820
Well I'm not, that'd be like rolling a dice and being mad it didn't get a six, or being upset when you get an average number of shots hit when you shoot.
You don't get upset because the result is expected.
I'm just disgusted by how proud Imperiumfags are of winning a rigged game.

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>>55340790

>>55340456
Fuck Chaos players.

>>55340846
Nice Greater Daemon of Slaanesh.

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>>55340815
Why does Fulgrim look like Griffith?

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>>55340790
>I-it was obviously rigged Imperial from the start!
>N-nevermind that they had manipulate the results so my team didn't get stomped 5-1!
Stop being such a baby.

>>55340790
This sounds familiar. Are you reddit?

>>55340878
>Imperiumfags need to pretend their opponents are salty to justify themselves
disgusting
>>55340898
>pretty boy
>described in universe as perfect
>excellent swordsman
>bird motif
>became a daemon lord
I just can't figure it out.
>>55340900
>GW fixed it too hard in Imperiums flavour
>fudged numbers of two planets for Chaos to keep idiots interested
Did you seriously fucking buy that?
I know Imperiumfags are idiots but come on

>>55340790
No you don't get it. GW fudged the numbers at one point to let the game go on longer when it became clear they biased shit in the Imperium's favour so much that the event would end too soon.
Therefore it was actually rigged in Chaos' favour because Chaos got a bone thrown to it despite that the Imperium got an osteology museum tossed at it.

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>>55340790
>>55340865
>>55340944

It's alright bro. You just gotta believe in yourself and be true to who you are, y'know man?

Tell you what bro, I'll let you touch my Ynari gf's boobs next time you're in the Konor system. Hell, we can even go for a joyride in my new Repulsor. Just hit me up whenever dude. Hahaha no worries just take it easy brah.

>>55340898
>why does the champion of Slaanesh look like a twink?

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>>55340944
Your 75% greentext ragepost is really proving how unsalty you are.

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>>55340790
>I'm not mad my team lost
>I'm mad that your team won

>>55340158
You know the US is already a socialist country right? Or do you just want to pretend that roads and emergency personelle arent paid for with your tax dollars? Fuck, even the UK, which for all intents and purposes is still a Monarchy, is a socialist country, and more socialist than you burger fucks.

>>55335962
Glorious.

>>55336350
I think it's a pretty cool result. Imperium won, but that astropathic relay turned daemon world is a big deal, and decimating the sector's ability to train pilots is significant as well.

>>55340951
>The very fact you don't have people on tumblr writing long essays about the problematic nature of warhammer means they probably can't get into it at all.

Oh but you do, though they tend to skew towards "this stuff is problematic, but it's still cool." You also get stuff like this, where someone argues why marines should be male, but not for the usual reasons.

https://tankpot.tumblr.com/post/164398778950/why-space-marines-need-to-be-male

>>55340957
I see what you did there, but that argument is way too subtle for Imperiumfags.
>>55340958
I don't want to touch your imaginary gf's boobs.
Chad Marine memes were kind of funny though, wonder what kind of memes we'll get when Fabulous Bill reverse engineers them, still not sure how they intend to do Chaos Primaris, probably going to be Progenitus or something along those lines.
>>55340988
I am salty, just not what you seem to think I'm salty about.
I'm salty that you people are this stupid that you actually bought into a rigged campaign.
>>55341000
No I'm mad that you're proud of winning a rigged game, it's like if you put cheat codes on to beat a hard game then was proud of winning said game using cheats.
It's just pathetic.

>>55340790
>Jesus Christ way to prove you're dickheads,
One word counterpoint: Carnac

>>55341106
>muh chaos boogeyman
way to prove you're an idiot

>>55335335
>chaos was winning by cheating and GW notice
Anon please we all know Chaos back in EoT only won games due to broken and OP codex and blant cheating.

>>55341046
Definility reddit.

>>55341124
>Chaos was only winning due to cheating!
>t-totally unlike how we won right now, right guys?
your lack of self awareness astounds me
>>55341136
The only time I go on reddit is the same time anyone else does.
When I'm googling technology and software problems and some reddit page shows up on the first page with half the answer to my question in the blurb.

>>55336237

What fucked up fan-wank is this horseshit?

>>55340669
The answer is yes.

>>55336237
>Chaos wins Cadia, an important planet in the fluff up until this point
>REE THE GUARD DIDN'T FALL
>GREY KNIGHTS BEAT THEM BACK
>CADIA WASN'T EVEN IMPORTANT
At least the playerbase acts exactly like their faction, whiny bitches who need someone more important than them to fix things for them.

>>55341159
>I didn't play the EoT event the post
It was delicious to read the salt in the forums during that time. Specially regarding BFG

>>55340790
I didn't buy a single new Primaris model, I play Salvar Chem Dogs. I sure loved giving your team the thick hard codex over and over again, senior bitch boi.

>>55341223
Chaos wins cadia fuck up the whole universe -> Somehow chaosfags are not satisfied.

>>55340951
Really? There's a difference between "liberal" (or what I think you mean by that, anyway, since it seems to change a fair bit and is apparent different from "libertarian" which makes no damn sense) and some of the people that demand all popular culture be changed to fit their ideal vision of the universe because they are somewhat incapable of separating fiction from reality. Me and most of my friends are pretty left by British standards on most things, we're all varying fans of 40k because it's gloriously OTT and I like my theocratic dystopian combat cyborgs. Dicks will be dicks whatever political term you use for them.

>>55341176
>>55341223

It's a propaganda piece in universe, that's the whole point. Taking the Regimental Standard seriously when it essentially exists to play up the Guard black humour is a rather poor way to critique Guard players.

>>55341223
The FoC has been one of the stupidest things I've read since 5th lore. Then the rest of the GS books was released and I was even more surprise.

>>55341122
Not an argument.

But victory is. Ha ha.

>>55341294
Literally who?
>>55341298
I'd be satisfied if our win actually had meant something, it's actually why I'm so salty about you cunts, your victory is hollow and meaningless but your just so pleased with yourselves, for winning a rigged game. It's pathetic.

>>55341277
>Chaos has victory cheated from them by lying GW officials
>lol why chaosfags so salty
Truly your entire faction is made up of insufferable cunts.
>>55341317
Then tell Imperiumfags to stop treating it as canon.
>>55341332
>hollow victory with no meaning
>somehow an argument
consider suicide

>>55341416
>I could not win by cheating
>this is GW fault
Chaosfag are so deluded it is impressive.

Did they drank the Chaos kulaid in real life?

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>>55341474
>it's okay if we won by cheating Chaos does it too
Except we didn't.
Reminder that Imperiumfags are compulsive liars and cheats.

>>55341382
>Literally who
Criminals from a mining facility that have scavenger rights on anything they find in a battlefield, huff paint/combat drugs during conflicts, I love them almost as much as I love shelling chaos players.

>>55341509
Gotta be honest they sound like discount Dark Eldar/Emperor's Children.
Are they your dudes or is there canon fluff about them?

>>55341495
>EoT
>half of chaos victories reported where fake
>random store doing stupid shit
>some how is the same as entire groups of chaos players reporting fake victories

Oh BOI

>>55335904
>leave money on the table

Lol.

If you want less marine presence you gotta attack the source of the problem. Make it so that the vast majority of players stop liking/buying marines. Look at how SJWs have made so many people hate whites as an example.

>>55341537
This campaign was so blatantly rigged in your favour they had to fudge the results of two planets so my faction would get some wins just to keep interest.
It was rigged because they released nothing but Space Marines, all the new Deathguard models were in the Dark Imperium box along with MORE Space Marines, you got your codex during the first week along with the Grey Knights codex at the same time we got our basic codex, Deathguard release wasn't until the end of the campaign, AND you outnumber us in a campaign where the missions favoured you and it was basically a popularity contest.
If you're even slightly proud of this win you're an idiot at best.

>>55341528
There's cannon fluff, they were in the third Armageddon conflict, most of my dudes are "your dudes", that I've built out of a fuck load of parts from every manufacturer I could get bits from

>>55341622
So you play the human/loyalist equivalent of Dark Eldar/Emperor's Children?

>>55341609
The forum cheating was done during EoT little boy. The half assed result was due to that clusterfuck situation.
GW didn't learn and repeated the same mistake for Medusa.
FoK was decided day one. GW usual incompetence didn't notice about it till the third week. Chaos is not a popular and loved enough faction to have it versus the entire fucking Imperium.

Every single event that GW makes that is X vs Chaos, chaos always gets their ass handed.

>>55341680
>Chaos always gets their ass handed
>except that one time they were winning but they were cheating
Do you have any arguments that aren't hypocritical?

>>55341416
>Hollow victory
Then why are you so buttblasted about it, kek?

>"We got smashed, crushed, defeated. No victory, the other one. Konor is lost."

>>55341710
Because there are Imperiumfags proud of winning a rigged game, and that disgusts me on a primal level.
Cheating to win a game is pathetic, being proud of winning when someone else is cheating FOR you is even worse.

>>55341700
They were not winning. They cheated the results so we ended with the stalemate result. Trying to fix the cheating mess chaosfag made.

It was funny, they try to organize and make up stuff. Still only won half of the time vs the rest of the faction that were just dicking around.

>>55341746
Lol, GW blatantly fudged the numbers, TWICE, in order to prevent a 6-0 Imperium stomp. It's not my fault your faction can't attract significant numbers of players or find allies to help you. Maybe you should have thought of that before you spent years gloating about "lol NPCs" and allowing the likes of Carnac shitting up one thread after another to be the face of your community.

t.Tyranid Player who my shop Imperium

>>55341655
Kinda yeah, I love them

>>55341836
Not him but this is kinda of a serious discussion. Please take your shitty ass trolling somewhere else.

>>55341746
>cheating
>how easily chaosfag forget EoT blant cheating
Anon Chaos had sites dedicated to turbo nerd the campaigns. Still lost half of the battles even with cheating.

There simply not enough Chaosplayers to do anything significant. Specially how GW makes this kind of stuff.

>>55341877
>"Y-You're just t-trolling"
Kek, I'm pointing out the obvious. Your faction isn't popular yet you spend massive amounts of time taking shits on every other faction or at least sit back and allow your most prominent fans to do so. That means you have no hope of victory without blantent rigging in your favor on planets 4 and 5.

>>55341976
Nope, trolling. You are not even taking anything you say serious. Heck, the guys who throw the NPC stuff are mostly Imperials anyways. Please you can cut the act. You are embarrassing yourself

>>55341782
>>55341888
>changing the subject this hard
I don't give a shit what happened at EoT, stop deflecting.
>>55341836
I already said they fudged the numbers to give us those wins keep up.
Not because of your wins but because they fucked up and fixed it too heavily in Imperiums flavour and realised no one would play their stupid campaign if Imperium won the first 4 planets, unfortunately for them it was too late and most players with brain cells figured it out when Imperium won the first three then we SOMEHOW won the 4th.
It's not just cheating, it's lazy cheating.

>>55341976
>ignoring the blatant Imperium rigging for every other week of the campaign
>focusing on the fudged numbers of planets 4 and 5 to keep interest in the campaign
If you aren't just trolling, then you're an idiot.
Ironic shitposting is still just shitposting dumbass.

>>55342112
>"M-Maybe if I j-just repeat myself he'll notice I have no arguments."
Nice try Chaoscuck.

>>55342192
No he's right, it's always the Imperials saying NPC, I'm a chaos player and my second favourite faction is Dark Eldar, followed by Harlequins, Orks, then Nids.

>>55342192
Says the guy who delivered no arguments.

>>55342156
>"Rigging"

Imperium steamrolls Chaos in anything approaching a fair fight as it is much more popular unless you also get the overwhelming majority of xenos on your side. As you failed to do that, you were always doomed. You're just too salty to admit it.

>>55342156
Planet 5 was LITERALLY rigged though
So was planet six since fights outside the US were fluffed to effectively not matter

>>55342250
Not him but he is right. You are deflecting like crazy and ignoring what he is saying.

>>55342264
>So was planet six since fights outside the US were fluffed to effectively not matter

Got any proof for that? Because in previous planets winning a region didn't mean shit.

>>55342250
Yes, rigging.
Space Marine codex released week 1, Grey Knights released at the same time as CSM, and Deathguard didn't make an appearance until the end.
Either it was rigged or someone at GW needs to be fired for incompetence, and since even GW can't be stupid enough to fail to realise that Chaos was outnumbered and they still did releases like this, as well as releasing all their primaris shit during the campaign and Deathguard's new stuff wasn't until after the campaign it's pretty blatant they rigged it because the other option is that GW is run by blind idiot retards.
>>55342264
And GW said whoever wins planet 6 wins the system, so look who they rigged it for.

>>55342234
Argument: Imperium is much more popular than Chaos and will inevitably win by weight of numbers any fair fight UNLESS Chaos can win over allies.

Argument: You utterly failed to do so.

Conclusion: You had no chance.

Not an Argument: IT WAS TOTALLY RIGGED YOU GUYS AND THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED CHEATS TO WIN ANYTHING!

>>55336350
Who is Laurie?

>>55342329
>admitting it wasn't a fair fight
>still acting like it wasn't fixed for him
You're that kid that called his mommy when he lost at games with the other kids aren't you?

>>55342329
>Not an Argument: IT WAS TOTALLY RIGGED YOU GUYS AND THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED CHEATS TO WIN ANYTHING!

Learn to read, moron. The guy is writing in simple English. >>55342322

And what I objected to is the NPC calling thing which you threw at Chaos when the Imperials are the mostly guy doing. When I mentioned this you utterly ignored it because clearly you are a troll. A shitty one at that.

>>55342342
Laurie Goulding, former editor of Black Library and a great asshole. He and ADB tried to debunk the idea of "Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons"

>>55342322
Fact that manlet neckbeards like you actually care enough to get your knickers in a twist is the BEST result of this.

Grow up you fucking faggot.

>>55342380
Says the guy who is proud of his "victory" and using it to bash others down. Hypocrite scum.

>>55342357
>"Muh faction isn't popular! GW needs to give us an handicap because we can't win otherwise!"

>>55342375
>He and ADB tried to debunk the idea of "Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons"

Do they just hate fun?

>>55342342
Some fanfic writer who somehow got a legit job editing for Black Library then despite having nothing to do with the DoW games tried to insist his headcanon was true for the Blood Ravens.
>>55342380
>ad hominem
>proud of a hollow victory
The only neckbeard here is you.
>>55342394
>making a campaign a popularity contest then fixing it against the less popular faction
Reading comprehension isn't that hard retard, finish high school English class before trying to discuss things that use English.

>>55342375
It was debunked though. The lost TS fleet returned in "Crimson King" and Arvida was turned into Janus.

Also the Rubric was shown to affect all Thousand Sons across space and rime so the Blood Ravens if they were TS wouldn't have been spared by it.

>>55342410
>Some fanfic writer who somehow got a legit job editing for Black Library then despite having nothing to do with the DoW games tried to insist his headcanon was true for the Blood Ravens.

Dude, Laurie Goulding couldn't care less. ADB was the guy that didn't like the whole thing and lobbied to bar it.

>>55342300
Nigga did you read the fluff description for week 6?

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I'm just gonna drop this here for you anons.
Hope it pisses someone off.
:D

>>55342367
Literally every other fluff thread is pounced on by Carnac or his ilk to shit on xenos and autisticly screech about Chaos is invincible and doom of everything and everyone. But it's *Imperial* players who throw around NPC.

Gonna need some evidence for that pal.

>>55342418
Wait source on the Rubric line, my LGS owner and I have been discussing this.
He insists they aren't based entirely off Laurie's word so if there's an actual argument for it I would like to see it.
>>55342436
Laurie insisted it too.

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>>55342404
It's only ADB not because it's fun but because it ruins the mystery of the setting.

>>55342444
Carnac is an Imperiumfag boogeyman he hasn't shown up in a thread in ages.

>>55342444
> But it's *Imperial* players who throw around NPC.

Go to the archive and type in NPC. see the results.

>>55342410
>Reading comprehension isn't that hard retard, finish high school English class before trying to discuss things that use English.
They did everything they could to fix FOR the less popular including effectively giving Chaos the ability to win solely in North America, their strongest region, and take the campaign by preserving the Warp engines. And you still couldn't do it. Stay salty.

>>55342475
He was shitting up threads as late as last night, dude.

>>55342490
>>55342438
Fluff means shit in that campaign. Chaos won some regions in the other planets and the fluff right up mentioned them as losing it.

>Imperial players all hating on Chaos for being edgelord assholes
>Only imperial players are using the most foul language and insults towards the losers of a 6 week campaign.

The real reason you guys are hating on Chaos is because your jealous that most of the people who play heretics dont have a curfew.

It is just a game, that was rigged..... Grow up and get laid Imperium, it is just a game after all.

>>55342490
How are you so stupid?
Imperium was given model releases and more codex releases the entire campaign, all the marketing was focused on Space Marines until they realised how bad they fucked up and started trying to recruit xenos players to fight for Chaos on their facebook.
They rigged it too hard, tried to backtrack, and failed.
>>55342506
I missed it, sure it was him and not just an impostor?
I don't like him either, makes my whole faction look bad.

>>55342460
>Laurie insisted it too.

Only when asked about it and usually with a smiley face. He wasn't serious. Anyways here is the text from Ahriman Unchanged where Ahriman casts the second Rubric.

>Ahriman… Ahriman… Ahriman…

>He could hear his name. It was all around him, threading through the names of all of his brothers. The Rubric was a chorus now. He was its centre but also its outer edge. He flew, not through substance, but through being. He could see it all. He could feel it all: every atom and how it came to be there, every string of causality and its end.

>They could all feel it now. Every one of the Thousand Sons would feel it, no matter where they were, or what abyss of time and space separated them from him. There was no time. There was no space. They were all one, and everything else had no meaning and no power. He was Sar’iq circling on feathered wings above a black tower a kilometre away. He was Kiu, on guard by his side. He was Khayon, standing on the bridge of a ship, closing his eyes as pain touched his thoughts for a second.

>He held them all, and for a second he watched them all, from the greatest warrior-mage to the last empty Rubricae.

>>55342525
They literally changed the rules at the last second so Chaos wouldn't get stomped Planet 4, but that was only part of their cunning plan to rig it for the Imperium right?

>>55342569
Carnac trolled for the Tau, Necrons, and now recently Chaos. The idiot you are talking to is too of a newfag to realize what Carnac is.

>>55342569
>I missed it, sure it was him and not just an impostor?
Only Carnac would spend TWO FULL THREADS arguing that Draigo had been corrupted against all evidence to the contrary based on the strength of one nameless passage about a guy who looked nothing like Draigo in an ancient daemon codex.

>>55342131

>they fucked up and fixed it too heavily in Imperiums flavour

Show proofs.

>>55342525
The fluff of the sixth planet was written so that chaos only had to win in the US (which was consistently it's strongest region) in order to take the whole campaign

>>55336500
More fair to say that Studio and Finance have giant boners for Imps, while BL have massive boners for Chaos, and there's not a single goddamn adult in the room that recognizes that:
1)One side winning overwhelmingly with no challenge, followed by another side winning overwhelmingly with no challenge, isn't a 'war campaign', or even a 'metaplot', it's a bunch of five year-olds playing cops-and-robbers.
2)Last time I checked, there are like another half-dozen factions in the game.

>>55342569
>Gives single most popular faction a codex
>Blatantly fudged numbers and rewrote numbers to favor one side mid-campaign
Now which one is rigging again? Hmmm...

>>55342572
I see your point, but that's written from the point of view of Ahriman, he's good but it's possible he only thought he was connected to every last Thousand Sons.
Also that actually says Rubricae, does that mean he connected to them after they were turned to dust?
>>55342594
Yes, even GW knows that if Imperium wins 4 planets in a row everyone will lose interest, but they failed to realise having only 6 planets, instead of 7, plus Imperium winning the first 3 makes it stupidly obvious they fixed it.
>>55342630
Okay I didn't miss it, that was multiple people, and I can't think of any other Grey Knights wandering the warp slaying daemons.
>>55342636
>Imperium won the first three planets in a fixed campaign
there you go

When Dark Eldar and ork players are helping the Imperium to kill Chaos, you then know there is a major problem.

Certain Xenos should have been immediatly allocated to a side instead of " Oh man, a invading force of Xenos can choose which humies they want to kill instead working along side the humies that want to kill, rape, and capture humanity for personal fun."

This shit was thought up by a nu-fag wasn't it.

>>55342667
If they wanted it to be a fair fight they should have released SM and CSM at the same time, then Deathguard along with Grey Knights.
They also released nothing but Primaris Space Marine models the whole time.

>>55340114

Liberal != Progressive. Increasingly the second is becoming too dogmatic to even get along with the first.

>>55342630
>a guy who looked nothing like Draigo

>Called a Knight
>Wears silver armour
>Pure and strong enough to survive and endure the temptations of the five circles of Slaanesh
>The tiny obscure shadowy artistic representation doesn't look like him in my opinion so that's proof no Draigo!

Sure, pal. There are hundreds of Silver Knights running in the Warp and Tau do not have hooves but toes because the Xenology art showed them with toes instead of hooves opposite to what the text said in the same book.

Face it, Draigo fell.

>>55342669
Again, proofs? Your "proof" is just you restating your claim

>>55342669

>the campaign was fixed because the campaign was fixed and our side lost

Come on now.

>>55342689

>wants Dark Eldar to help Chaos

Way to literally never read even a page of Dark Eldar fluff, my man.

>>55342709
One problem
Wasn't that in a fantasy armybook?

>>55342723
He has as much proof as this imo>>55342659

>>55342747
He is literally called a space marine in the text. It's from the 40K daemon book.

>>55342739
A wych cult befriended a warband of world eaters and went on together on a rampage.

>>55342739
>Not using the chance to get more mon'keigh slaves where their troops are distracted with their fallen kin.

>>55342709
Lol, then show me fallen Draigo. Show even one name.

>>55342723
>>55342737
I already said my proofs holy shit learn to read.
They released 2 codices and multiple models for Imperium in a popularity campaign.
Chaos got fuck all.
One SUB-faction of Chaos is getting things AFTER the campaign is over.
They couldn't be more blatant without expressly stating that they did it.
>>55342747
40k Daemons Codex actually.

>>55334446
Preteens go Imperium and edgy teenagers go Chaos. Just wait.

>>55342809
Some me a silver knight other than Draigo in the Warp.

>>55342754
Nigger. READ THE FUCKING FLUFF
The fluff of the last planet was that the death guard crashed a ton of ships into it to make it mobile so it would spread plagues across the entire system if not stopped, making the imperium's efforts all pointless. The part of the planet that was being fought over in the US were the actual damn engines of the place that let the planet move in the first place

>>55342689
I mean when you can freely join either side you want and one side is very clearly winning, most people are probably going to sideline the fluff to hop on the winning team.

>>55342891
The Changeling?

>>55342914
I said fluff means nothing. GW said in the previous planet that holding two regions is enough to win a planet. GW would not blatantly change the rules they mentioned like a day before the battle for the last planet started.

Fluff means nozing.

I know that I'll probably never be in a position for this to matter, but really, what this taught me is what these kind of events always teach me - having players drive the storyline (or telling the players you're letting them drive the storyline) is a terrible idea; all things are never going to be equal, somebody's going to feel left out, there'll be all sorts of questionable balance going on, leading people to assume that the thumb's on the scale against them no matter what, and in the end, if it *actually* goes the way you didn't want it to, the story will either turn to shit, or you'll have to redirect back where you want it in a way so obvious the player base will hate you for it.
See also - the entire history of L5R.

>>55342939
Daemons do not fall to Slaanesh. The Changeling cut the hair of the Slaanesh while she was sleeping. He is not affected by her power of seduction.

>>55342928
Pretty much.

This is why choice should have been taken away from xenos and just allowed two sides to scrap without a third messing it all up.

Cause they took the choice of winning away from Chaos when they released everything imperium for the first three weeks then only one codex for the opposition.

>>55336500
And Xenos are left in the dust either way.

>>55342979
Sure? He could transformed into a Grey Knight in a futile attemp to destroy the will of those who still are waiting for Draigo's permanent return. That is the way Tzeentch works.

>>55342953
Yes they would. It's not like they didn't blatantly change the rules of their own thing to give you a week 5 victory, even though you lost according to their site's own algorithm, AND changed the numbers on that planet so that the slim victories chaos had on the territories they controlled turned into overwhelming ones and their LOSS on one territory turned into a win.
Also. How does fluff mean nothing when the whole damn point of the campaign is to infulence the upcoming fluff?

>>55342985
You know, they really should have made rewards for xenos for supporting either side.

Like if Chaos won planet X, Orks and Necrons get Y as a reward, If Imperium won planet Y, then Eldar and Tau get J as a reward.

That should balance the campaign

>>55342891
>"One piece of old, ambiguous fluff about an unnamed guy in the daemon dex overrides multiple clear statements the exact opposite in multiple soucres across editions, including much more recent ones."
>"Why?"
>"Because I said so."
Wow I'm convinced,

>>55340123
I'm down.

>>55343044
There isn't any statements that say Draigo won't fall in the future. The event that had the Silver Knight kneeling before Slaanesh could happen in the far future for all we know or at the same time as Draigo entering the warp because time does not matter in the warp.

>>55340820
>asami
>anime

>>55334446
Slaanesh.

>>55342709
you know there have been other cases of marines getting lost in the warp other than Draigo right?

And that there are other chapters that wear silver armour?

And that several chapters call their marine knights?

>>55343032
Damn good idea there anon...

I wish you were working at GW's....

>>55343112
>you know there have been other cases of marines getting lost in the warp other than Draigo right?

Survival of these marines usually counted in a few minutes. We have seen what happens most of the time when a space ship submerges into the raw warp without a gellar field active. The warp surges in and melts all biological matter.

>And that several chapters call their marine knights?

Cite a chapter with silvered armour and knight in their title. Also having the purity to survive being melted by the warp and corruption of the Realm of Chaos. You can't.

>>55343178
Astral Knights

>>55343081
>"Could"
So you're just making shit up and expecting me to believe because reasons. If you're going by that standard there's no statements saying it wasn't Bill from the Silver Knights Chapter, destroyed by Slaaneshi daemons c. M34.

>>55342475
He was doing his cancerous shit literally yesterday.

>>55334867
>But since USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida they failed

Im so happy your life has been ruined by trump. And the best part is, you STILL wont vote next time and bitch and moan even more.

>>55343178
>Cite a chapter with silvered armour and knight in their title. Also having the purity to survive being melted by the warp and corruption of the Realm of Chaos. You can't.
Site all the Astartes Chapters that have ever existed in the Imperium, including the ones that don't exist yet because as you say time gets funky in dere.

You can't.

>>55343178
>The warp surges in and melts all biological matter.
While that can happen that's not what usually happens. Ususally its just a fuckton of daemons storming in and ripping people to pieces.

>>55343211
Could as in can equally happen in the future, present, and past due to the temporal nature of the Warp. Learn English.

>>55343208
Do they have the ability of the Fire Hawks and Grey Knights to survive being melted by the Warp?

>>55343253
It happens to comprised ships. First daemons manifest inside the ship. Then when the ship breaks apart, the Warp enters it and melts bio-matter.

>>55343264
>>55343303

The warp is an incredibly hostile place, with daemons coming from everywhere, but it doesn't melt people.

>>55343319
Yes, it does. Happens multiple times in the Black Legion series.

>>55343208
>Astral Knights
A silver armoured chapter with knight in the title, and badass enough to take on the world engine.

There we go then fellas, solved.

>>55343332
Are you honestly saying that the warp is consistent in what it does to people?

>>55343264
>Could as in can equally happen in the future, present, and past due to the temporal nature of the Warp. Learn English.
Then show Chaos Draigo. Show a name. An event. Literally anything unambiguously Draigo instead of mindlessly repeating "it happened because I said it did" over and over.

>Slaneshfag so butthurt that people dont agree with his headcanon that he'll derail another thread after its mentioned just in passing.

Woow dude, thats some serious salt.

>>55343332
Traitor Legions literally live in the Warp.

>>55343350
Not pure enough. The Astral Knights have a tendency to always infight and argue with each other over past mortal clans loyalties. Also they allied with a blasphemous xenos god.

>>55343389
No, they do not. They live in the Eye of Terror where reality and the Warp coexist in a shifting balance.

The guys being melted in the novels in the raw warp were loyalist AND traitor marines.

>>55343353
It has been consistently melting people in the novels I read.

>>55343377
Just because he doesn't have any new fluff doesn't mean it didn't happen. Learn to logic as well.

>>55343402
none of that has a relation to warp-based "purity"

He's an Astral Knight, get over it.

>>55343444
It has because the Warp uses any doubt, pride, and basically any excessive emotion you have to destroy you. The Silver Knight was tested for his pride in the circle before the last. It's not a circle the prideful Astral Knights would pass.

>>55343431
>Just because he doesn't have any new fluff doesn't mean it didn't happen. Learn to logic as well.
"Just because it doesn't exist doesn't mean it doesn't exist."

Chaos logic everyone. There's far better evidence Ynnead will kill Slaanesh than that Draigo or ever will be less than 100% pure but don't tell Carnac n' pals that.

>>55343478
>It's not a circle the prideful Astral Knights would pass.
Evidence required right there. No, the voices in your head do not count as a source.

>>55343402
>>55343478
A chapter isn't a hive mind you idiot, just because there have been some characters displaying those traits, doesn't mean every single member of the chapter will

>>55343485
It exists. We know the Silver Knight (Draigo) fell. Just because he didn't get any new fluff, doesn't mean the event didn't happen and that he doesn't exist.

>there's no other chapter with knight in their name with silver armour!
>gets given one
>REEEE it doesn't count!
fuckin kek.

>>55343509
>>55343512
Space Marines are coloured by the culture of their chapter.
Regardless, no Astral Knight have been shown to have special properties that show them as incredibly pure and guarded against the corrosive and corrupting nature of the raw warp.

>>55343518
you mean the Silver (Astral) Knight

>>55343537
"Cite a chapter with silvered armour and knight in their title. Also having the purity to survive being melted by the warp and corruption of the Realm of Chaos. You can't"

You couldn't.

>>55343553
None can touch the Warp and emerge unscathed. Except a Grey Knight.

>>55343518
>"Silver Knight = Draigo"
>"Why?"
>"I said so."

>>55343547
>Regardless, no Astral Knight have been shown to have special properties that show them as incredibly pure and guarded against the corrosive and corrupting nature of the raw warp.
Actually anon, one Astral Knight has shown it, he managed to get to slaneesh's inner circle and was only corrupted by the god itself.

You can find it in the Daemon codex I think, its a neat story.

>>55343571
I could.

The Astral Knights.

>>55343593
Nope. Ordinary marines including traitor marines have no defence against the corruption and entropy of the Warp.

>>55343591
It can only BE Draigo. Lets break this down. The Knight in order for him to reach the circles had to fight his way through the countless daemons milling around the place. So far only Draigo was shown to have the ability to defeat armies of daemons on his lonesome.

>>55343612
Nope, you couldn't. Normal marines cannot defeat armies of daemons on their own nor have the purity to combat corruption and corrosion within the heart of darkness.

>>55343673
actually they can. Its an Astral Knight.

>>55343699
They got their ass kicked by Necrons. So no.

>>55343715
Yes, actually.

>>55343744
Dude, seriously. A one eyed Cryptek laid waste to a group of them.

>>55343776
And yet they still won.

>>55343788
By releasing a C'tan shard that they allied with. All of them but a single librarian were cut down by the time the C'tan was freed.

>>55343661
>It can only BE Draigo. Lets break this down. The Knight in order for him to reach the circles had to fight his way through the countless daemons milling around the place. So far only Draigo was shown to have the ability to defeat armies of daemons on his lonesome.
So basically you've done the census on all Marines that have ever existed, including the ones that don't exist yet, and reached this rational conclusion have you? Top fucking kek.

>>55343930
I did. I have yet to find a single none Grey Knight marine capable of such feats.

>>55344015
>"I didn't see it therefore it doesn't exist."
Genius.

>>55344015
why are you assuming it has to be a previously written about marine?

I gotta hand it to Chaoscucks, it's pretty amazing how quickly they've managed to change the the topic of this thread from their getting BTFO on Konor to autistic screeching about their fantasies of stealing a character from another army.

>>55344048
It's logical. Marines have limits. They cannot beat armies of daemons on their own and their commanding Greater Daemons. One marine has and his name is Draigo.

>>55344053
Why do you assume it isn't? Even among the Grey Knights there hasn't been a case of a brother fighting daemons on his lonesome and winning. Greater Daemons usually take a great effort even from Grand Masters to banish. Only one made it look easy and you know who it is.

>>55344073
It's almost as bad as the guys who still hold onto that half eldar abomination as canon.

>>55343673

Not the guy you've been arguing with, but there's a thing called the Abyssal Crusade mentioned in the newest Space Marine Codex, where 30 different Chapters go into the Eye of Terror, and then survivors emerge centuries later.

>>55344097
What about Captain Titus? He was an Ultramarine.

>>55344073
Actually, Imperialfags brought up Draigo first in an unrelated thread.

And the consensus from forums that matter like twitter and Facebook that the whole campaign was rigged and portly managed for the favour of the Imperium.

>>55344113
>Abyssal Crusade

Which failed miserable and led 20+ chapters either falling to Chaos or being destroyed. Those who emerged from the Eye were reduced in number.

Also as we now know, you gotta pay the Warp Ghosts a toll to exit the Eye unless you find one of its temporal exit routes known only to daemons. These loyalists would have to pay a CSM warband something to leave. That's heresy.

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>>55344128
>forums that matter like twitter and Facebook

>>55344120

CAPTAIN TITUS IS A HERETIC

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>>55344213
Shut up Leandros.

>>55344073
Maybe it is because Imperialfags won the campaign and are insulting the losers.

Never have I seen such a terrible display of sore-winners in my life.

>>55344097
>It's logical. Marines have limits. They cannot beat armies of daemons on their own and their commanding Greater Daemons. One marine has and his name is Draigo.
"It must be Draigo and not a literally who because I said so."

Lel. Keep telling yourself that, little boy.

>imperium wins
>GW will still bullshit and handwave chaos into winning

Fuck nu-Geedubs.

>>55334446

Oh my God. I know him. I've seen that kid at my FLGS a few times...

>>55344244
>Never have I seen such a terrible display of sore-winners in my life.
Chaos deserves this and you know it.

>>55344270
No, it doesn't. Chaos did nothing wrong.

>>55344244
>"Chaos is gonna win everything forever muh ADB said so nothing can stop us we will destroy the galaxy and nobody can do anything about it at all! Tyranids? Nothing. Necrons? Nothing. Orks? Nothing. All are naught before the infinite might of-"
>"Btw you lost."
>"HOW DARE YOU IMPERIALFAGS BULLY US LIKE THIS?!"

>>55344294
>"Imperiumfags are so bad Chaos is invincible and always wins and you can never stop us haha sucks to be you fags of other races"
>"hey chaos lost one battle"
>"FUCK YOU GW WHY DO YOU ALWAYS MAKE CHAOS LOSE CHAOS GETS SHAFTED SO HARD HAVE SOME MERCY ON CHAOS FOR ONCE"

>>55344294
>>55344318
So you are saying that Chaosfags should bully you in the coming weeks?

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>>55334446

>>55344270
It is a game dude of little plastic dudes for children, grow up and go get some pussy.

You are the cancer of this hobby.

>>55344294
Hey, my hard fought losses counted.
>0-3 Necrons, Nids, Necrons 2:How to lose worse.

>>55344351
What I've seen is that Chaos players will endlessly taunt other players if/when they lose and tell them to suck it up, but whenever Chaos so much as loses a battle or is set back in any way they'll complain that GW hates Chaos and Chaos never wins or gets anything good.

>>55344351
You say that like chaosfags aren't a nonstop shitposting factory of a fanbase already. Carnac alone has the output of the entire /tg/ Imperial fanbase.

>>55344294
>>55344318
Why even bully the losers? Are you such children, probably, you can't win like men.

Again, a game for children that draws over-aged children......

>>55334118

>>Fun Question

The Chadian 512th Infantry Brigade gave their lives to act as roadblocks against Chaos. A Freeblade, who's House was destroyed on Konor, aided the regiment as best he could. On Nethamus, they suffered some of the worst casualties, as a trio of Helldrakes laid into them without warning, breaking huge gaps in their lines before two were destroyed, and the final one flew off to target the agri-transports.

It was pretty much an unintentional recreation of that Loot Train battle in GoT. Muthafuckin dragons swooping in out of nowhere, shit fire on a bunch of guardsmen strung out in the open, then taking off. Fuck those things move fast.

>>55344351
You'll certainly try but if Carnac's done one thing right it's build up a massive inoculation to attempts to wank Chaos.

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>>55344399
>>55344401

>Chaos shit posting is more numerous then Imperial shit posting.

What board do you lurk around anons? Cause i can't be /tg/.......

>>55344404
>Why even bully the losers?
Some people need to be bullied.

>>55344399
Name one major battle that Chaos won without a contrived writing. You.can.not. Seems to me it's a valid complaint.

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>>55335269
>>That or they're going to finally tell us that the Lion was secretly a traitor all along, but he's just been too much of a coward to come out and admit it for the last 10,000 years.

Secretly?

>>55344452
Literally look up a few posts to see some Chaosfag arguing on ridiculously flimsy evidence that they should (and will) get to flat out steal a character from another faction.

>>55344458
Cancer

>>55344441
I see the opposite. Carnac has cultivated the butthurt to greater levels than before to the point that Imperialfags are taking it out on innocent xenos and chaosfags.

>>55344352

Cringe

>>55344473
It's okay anon. Your faction has more mary sues than anyone can count. You can afford to lose just one.

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>>55344473

>People are talking about theoretical fluff stuff in a 40k based thread about 40k based fluff.
>Shit-posting
>Imperial winners verbally insulting their opponents and throwing around accusations about said opponents.
>Not shit-posting

Top kek boys...

>>55344255

Play a game with him.

>>55344375
>By verbally deriding him for participating in a hobby I myself participate in whilst implying that any who find joy in such things are children I gain superiority over him and I shall make assumptions about his sexual status.

>>55344481
>Innocent chaosfags
No such thing. Anyone playing super-edgy spiky marines needs to be bullied for it.

>>55344452
>What board do you lurk around anons? Cause i can't be /tg/.......
I'd ask the same question of you if you honestly can't tell that Carnac, by himself, makes chaosfags the biggest shitposters on /tg/. He derails threads like he's paid a salary to do it.

>>55344532
Years ago the Imperialfags said the same about Taufags, I guess we figured the source of the problem

>>55344497
Lol, literally every Chaos character is a Mary Sue of the highest degree.

>>55344544
Newfag, where do you think the name Carnac comes from? He is a troll who will use anything that works to get on people's nerves and get (you)s. Using him as a crutch for your argument shows how weak your side is.

ADB on suicide watch

to answer the original question, how to make chaos more appealing: as many anons have said, they need more nuance. In WHFB Chaos has Norsca, nations of men who worshipped chaos and it was understandable how and why they did it. There was even times during Imperial history when they traded with the Norscans.

>>55344555
>Implying the majority of the fanbase can be the problem
>Not the irritating hangers-on

>>55344578
Chaosfags false-flagging I see.

>>55344015
You have no idea how much I pity you. I'm not even the guy you're responding to but TWO full threads of you just spewing this autism. Why does it matter so much to you? Just let it go. You're wrong. It's not in the fluff, it's not supported by the fluff. Just let it go.

>>55344595
>You're wrong. It's not in the fluff, it's not supported by the fluff. Just let it go.

But I am not wrong

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>>55344567
>C-c-carnac is just a troll!
>Just because he shitposts for chaos all the time doesn't mean he's a chaos shitposter
>The biggest shitposter on /tg/ doesn't count!
Chaos are gud bois, we dindu nuffin!
Kek. I see we're done here.

>>55344607
>dude shitposts as a Tau namefag for years
>then moves on to necrons where he got his new name
>only recently shitposts about chaos
>yeah, lets take what he says seriously.

Newfag

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>>55344422
You made the guard proud anon.

>>55344605
>I am not wrong because I have some circumstantial evidence
Gee, glad no one's put you in charge of our criminal justice system.

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>>55344555
Sooooo much this.....

>>55344567
And there is enlightenment from being new or on the outskirts of something. You get to see how it truly is...

I am done posting, cause I know that there is just a few Imperial-trolls roaming in this thread shitting it up to all hell. I am glad this thread will die soon, just like this terribly, planned out campaign called The Fate of Konor.

Later folks.

>>55344576
>There was even times during Imperial history when they traded with the Norscans.
Wot? Really? As a Total War fag I am interesed in details.

>>55344645
It's ironic that you probably don't even know there was a time when there was a popular saying: "Only newfags call newfag."
Oh course, he probably doesn't either and you'll have a second (you) coming along shortly.

>>55344657
>I am glad this thread will die soon, just like this terribly, planned out campaign called The Fate of Konor.

>Implying Konor will ever die
Kek. We're going to grind it into Chaosfag faces forever.

>>55344688
Glad to see that the humans of Konor did not buy into Nugle's bullshit.

Also Ork green > Nurgle green.

>>55344688
Don't worry GW will give Chaos a consultation prize.

>>55344776
consolation prize*

>>55344520

I did at FNM. He bragged about how he will absolutely steal any cards he sees on the table if someone isn't there to claim them.

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>>55334867
>USA chaos players tend to be Trumpcunts living in Texas and Florida

The areas in texas and florida affected by the hurricanes, were largely counties who voted for hillary

>>55345047
Once more they payed for the rest of their states.

>>55344481
>chaos becomes the writers and owners and developers favorite faction and basically controls the setting(s) for a full decade
>destroys one setting and shits up its successor
>in the process of destroying another setting
>"why are people so mean to chaos???"

I understand "not all chaosfags", but it's hard to not lash out against the players with our grievances because GW is so monolithic and uncaring of what a lot of its fans want, so the players feel like a better target. It's not a good excuse, but it's probably why we do it.

>>55343485
There's more evidence that Ynnead is just a Greater Daemon/Avatar of Slaanesh than anything
>Eldar God of Death
>androgynous
>one tit
>eats Eldar souls
Silver Knight is probably Draigo too, or at least a reference to him using a very similar style character, there's not a lot of people that could travel through Slaanesh's garden and get to the center, unless it was one of the missing Primarchs or a shard of the Emperor somehow.
I guess it could be Leman Russ though, was his armor silver?

>>55344294
Nice strawman dumbass.

>>55344401
Carnac is an imperialfag boogeyman title given to anyone who disagrees with them.

>>55345125
>>chaos becomes the writers and owners and developers favorite faction and basically controls the setting(s) for a full decade
>>destroys one setting and shits up its successor
>>in the process of destroying another setting


That's such horseshit.
Chaos is certainly not the favorite, in 40k it's undoubtedly the Imperium, in Age of Sigmar it's Order.
Speaking of Age of Sigmar, Chaos is not responsible for destroying Fantasy, GW is. Chaos was merely their chosen tool for that plot development, they would have had Orcs destroy the world if they felt it made more sense.
How did Chaos shit up Age of Sigmar?
How is it destroying 40k?

Chaos barely changes overtime.

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>>55335645
It would fit perfectly

>>55345125
>designated villains destroy the setting
If you think any single Chaos player was happy with the End Times you must not have any fantasy battles Chaos players at your LGS.
Nobody at my LGS liked the End Times and Chaos players hated it more than anyone.
>Sigvald breaks his hands and dies outside of battle to a teamkiller beastman with a grudge
>Slaanesh gets fat on elf souls and captured
>Archaon doesn't even usher in End Times, Nagash does
People like you are why Chaos players direct so much hate at the Imperiumfags, ignorant, stupid morons who don't even know what they're talking about, I'm so glad you don't represent all Imperium players.

>>55345396
>>Sigvald breaks his hands and dies outside of battle to a teamkiller beastman with a grudge

Trolls =/= Beastmen and to be fair Sigvald killed him first he got better and he got his revenge.

>>Archaon doesn't even usher in End Times, Nagash does

The return of Nagash was a response to Archaon's invasion.