Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>55320761
Don't talk to me or my father's son ever again.

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Nurglings are CUTE!

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Hopes for IG codex?
Nerfs/Buffs/Fluff/Sly Marbo?

>>55320783
They really are.

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Renegade Ogryns have a rule that lets them increase their attack characteristic. I've attached the exact text of the rule in the image. This rule doesn't state an end point.

Is it permanent? Can I reuse this rule multiple times in a battle to generate a unit of ogryns with an attack characteristic of 20+?

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I'll just leave this here.

>>55320803
It looks like it's every turn.
Knowing FW it's vague because they just slap shit down.

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7th for a Carnac-free Thread.

>>55320803
We went over this, anon

Last chance for me to fix any obvious mistakes i this list before I order a shitload of recast Sisters from China:

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Adepta Sororitas) ++
>Celestine: 2x Geminae Superia [250]
>Canoness: Condemnor Boltgun, Power sword [50]
>Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer, Power maul [114]
>Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer, Power maul [114]
>Battle Sister Squad (5): Heavy Bolter, 2x Storm Bolter, Chainsword [59]
>Seraphim Squad (10): 2x Twin inferno pistols, Plasma pistol, Power sword [169]
>Dominion Squad (7): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta [157]
>Dominion Squad (7): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta [157]
>Repressor: Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter [92]
>Repressor: Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter [92]
>Rhino: 2x Storm Bolter [77]
>Rhino: 2x Storm Bolter [77]

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium) ++
>Inquisitor Greyfax [85]
>Vindicare Assassin [90]
>Vigilators (5): 5x Executioner Greatblade [95]
>Vigilators (5): 5x Executioner Greatblade [95]
>Null-Maiden Rhino: Storm Bolter [72]
>Vulture Gunship: Twin Punisher Gatling Cannon, Heavy Bolter [160]


++ Super-Heavy Detachment (Questor Imperialis) ++
>Cerastus Knight Acheron: Acheron Flame Cannon, Twin Heavy Bolter, Reaper Chainfist [495]

++ Total: [142 PL, 2500 PTS] ++

Greyfax/Canoness go with Flamer squads in Rhinos, Dominions use Repressors as mobile bunkers. Thoughts?

>>55320795
Conscripts aren't getting changed in cost. They're getting excluded from the objective secured special rule for battleforged IG detachments, and from being able to use orders.

We're currently playtesting some changes to tankguard to make those units more appealing as well.

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>>55320761
I was looking into a chapter master captain to deep strike next to my Aggressor squad when they pop up wit hthe Raven Guard stratagem. Is a Cataphractii Captain worth the points for the extra survivability or is a normal terminator captain better? What loadouts are common on them? I was thinking Thunder Hammer and Storm Bolter/Combi-Melta

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>>55320836
>2500 points
Seems like you're 500 points over the limit, anon.

seems fine, btw

>>55320864
We?
Who are we?

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>>55320761
So, D-Scythes or D-Cannons?

Also, would a more scientifically minded craftworld be more likely to use Wraith constructs in daily life?

>>55320876
Axes if you aren't a bitch.

Lost second small game against my girlfriend; found out that the succubus is a beast, mandrakes are awesome and sslyth dont have a fnp like i thought and go down like a sack of shit.

>>55320913
Someone's getting pegged tonight

>>55320833
I just want to make sure anon.

>>55320868
Normal Terminator Captain. If the Cataphractii fails his charge (he probably will since you are 9+ inches away) he wont reach combat for the rest of the game. 4" movement sucks, anon. The saddest game of 8th I've seen until now was a SM player FOOTSLOGGING 4 units of assault centurions across the board. Needless to say, it wasnt very fun for him.

>>55320864
>shitty fandex

we don't fucking care

>>55320896
Screw melee; I want to blow shit up. Besides, why in gods name would I take axes when I can use SICK ASS SWORD CHUCKS

Blight Bombardment: Use just before a Friendly Death Guard unit shoots or fires overwatch; when shooting every model in that unit that is equipped with a blight grenade can throw one, instead of just only one.

Noice

>>55320871
2500 is actually the most common in my area. And if I need to play 2k, I can just drop the Knight and a few Storm Bolters, ezpz.

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> https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/10/codex-adeptus-mechanicus-and-deathshroud-terminators/
I still waiting for that goddamn seperate Guilliman model here Dubs.

>>55320939
>range 6 inches

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>>55320783
>Here you go nurgling, wear this helmet so you can be big and strong like me!

>>55320929
Got it, thanks. Also, would I benefit from a combi-melta at all? My only anti-armor is a Hellblaster squad but that's four shots with hit rerolls with a storm bolter (after deep striking into range) compared to one shot from a melta. I don't know which would be better mathematically

>>55320795
Platoons returning!

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I don't play Marines.

I play Death Guard ATM.

What do I do with this guy? Got him free for preordering Mortarion and codex etc

>>55320987
>I don't play Marines.
>I play Death Guard ATM.
You play marines

>>55320977
Get more hellblasters or some Inceptors with Plasma if you want to go full primaris.
Alternatively, there's tons of Antitank in a Space marine army. Devastators, LasPreds, Flyers, Dreadnoughts, etc...

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>>55320913
>making your gf into a Dark Eldar player
Nice one, anon. Have fun with the spiked strap on.

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>>55320828
>Get drunk last night
>pass out after drunkenly painting alpha legionares
>dream that it was revealed explicitly that perterabo was a prince of slaanesh and and lorgar was a prince of tzneetch along with all the other unaligned primarch daemons being devoted to a god
>the horror of realizing Carnac was right
This place is destroying me on a subconscious level

>>55320987
Give him to some poor kids in africa?

>>55320983
Oh god please no.

Going to play some 3-player free for all next weekend.

How many points should we play with? 1000 pts? 1500 pts?

We'll be playing on a standard 6x4 table with a decent amount of terrain.

>>55320864
>fan rules
Fuck off back to 9th age

>>55320987

Replace aquila with nurgle banner, paint him green?

>>55320795
Tanks buffed.

Regiment tactics for Steel Legion.

Plaguebringer: Model with plague weapons, Power swords, balesword. S: User AP: -3 D: D3 Ability: Plague weapon. Each time you make a wound roll with this weapon the target suffers a mortal wound in addition to any other damage.

Looks like the murder sword's got some competition.

>>55320938
Because Eldar are Irish/Celt weebs and battle axes are fucking cool

>>55320876
D scythes are disgustingly good. their only down side is the 8" range but that juicy 15 str 10 shots is worth the points

>>55321023

But anon, im a dark eldar player, i gain power(ful boners) from pain

>>55320957
what is ebay

>>55321066
Murder Sword sucks though.

>>55320987
ebay it and buy more DG

>>55321039

1350pts

IG Wish List
from a IG player

>Cons can't take orders
really limits the firepower and effectiveness of the unit. With the new "everyone can contest rules" you can't score with a blob just by sitting it on a point so they aren't a big issue in gaining points.

>Infantry can either Blob or go to 30 per squad
Pretty much to make Infantry worth bringing you need to make the orders as effective as possible. With the point costs of the Squads I don't see much of an issue with this.

>Pask gets special tank rules
Hitting on 2s and giving out orders is good, but him making the tanks feel special when he was using them was a really big selling point for me bringing him. Maybe have the Battle Cannon always do 3+ damage, Punisher ap-2 on 6s, Demo allways rolling d6 shots, stuff like that

>Creed gets to hide units again
Much like the double vehicle shots from Konor, depending on the number of wounds on the target unit you can deep strike one that you pay for at the start of the game.

Any other ideas?

Did anyone actually play gangs of commeragh? I picked up the box for reavers in 7th, now i dont use them but love hellions and wondered if the game was fun enough to warrant dusting off my reavers.

>>55321084
It's alright, if you have a good way to guarantee delivery. Renegate Lord on a bike is good. Exalted champ in a rhino with berserkers. Terminator Lord.
I usually take it if I'm not running a DP.

>>55321124
If you bring creed, you have to bring trazyn.

>>55320795
Id love to see russes get a buff or some sort of stratagem to make them worth taking
Right now you can either take the battlecanon and be a shitter basilisk that needs LoS, or you can take their pretty strong demolisher variants that need to be nauseatingly close to do damage, T8 and 12 wounds isn't impressive when shit like predators vomiting lascanon shots exist
Maybe a strategem for 3 CP that gives tanks within a certain range of your commander a 2+ save for a turn?

>>55320957

What do you need a Gulliman model for? You aren't a waacfag are you?

>>55321124
Either want conscripts to not get orders or to get more than one BLAM'd if they fail morale. They've got to either 1. decrease their offensive potential or 2. decrease their defensive potential.

>>55321243
To model him defeated, lying dead beneath the foot of a triumphant gretchin, obviously!

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>>55321243
Use him as centrepiece while im waiting for Sang.

So it's going to be cheaper to just buy forge world Deathshroud terminators isn't it.

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I know DEldar aren't allowed to be psychers, because they don't want to let Slaanesh in or something like that, but what would happen if a slave raid accidentally brought some psychers back to Commorragh?

>>55321289
I'd make him a...What's the grot walker called?

Put a cap on his head, put a grot with little handles attached to it controlling him like a rock 'em, sock 'em 'bot

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I'm glad I didn't wait for Typhus, with this fucking retarded 1 model a week release schedule.

>>55321261
Should be both, imo. No orders, because they're barely trained conscripts, and I doubt they'd be less afraid of the asshole behind then with the pistol than the dug in marines blasting them apart with bolters and heavy weapons. Maybe something like if the conshits suffer too many casualties under the commissar aura, they all flee and deal mortals to the commissar as they fight their way free. They're just too effective at putting out wounds, and far too effective at jamming shit and soaking up attacks without adjustments to both.

>>55321332
Dark Eldar have ways of finding out if somebody or something is a psyker, and devices to make sure they won't be able to start any trouble.

>>55321333
Killakan.

And that idea is actually brilliant.

>>55321067
Fuck that; The ancient Eldar Empire at its height never believed in such practises. The current craftworlds were all hijacked by warrior lodges based around cults of personality. Only through tempering our rage, can we forge a new fate.
Thats why I want to play Ynnari/Aeldari
>>55321070
Good to know; My only concern is that it won't be enough to deal with heavy units like GC and Super elite like Custodes.

Now, do I go Close Combat or ranged for the rest of my army? I was thinking CC.

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How do we explain how 30k Deathshrouds are in Tartaros and 40k ones are in Cataphractii?

Were the rules lawyers correct then they claimed that you could put them in any terminator suit, not just tartaros (even though official models were in tartaros)?

>>55321409
30k Deathshrouds can have any type of termie armour, look in the rulebook.

>>55320876
>muh atheist elfdar

fuck off idiot

>>55321024
This place(40kgen) is just lore skub fights. Nothing insightful happens here anymore. Too much emphasis on fluff, not enough on crunch.

>>55321005
masque abilities are all 6 inch range. They're more powerful, but harder to use for that reason. I think this was up to change, we just liked the thematic range.

The sniper slaanesh daemon is a team of 1 to 3. They lack an infiltrate, and can't advance while firing (heavy weapon). However, they can move 6 inches after shooting.

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Is the javelin speeder at all worth it? 170 points for a surprisongly tanks lil thing seems pretty good, and it looks pretty great at customizing between packing anti-tank and punching hordes to death.

Also are plasma deredeo's or twin storm cannon leviathans worth it?

>>55321651
Seems shit to me.

>>55321496
In the old days Tartaros and Indomitus were identical, only Cataphractii was different. And as such "terminator armour" meant any suit that wasn't Cataphractii. Then FW made Tartaros its own suit with its own rules. Given their shoddy proofreading, it's impossible to know if "terminator armour" in the current unit entry is an error or not, especially when FW said in an FAQ (that predates the book) that "terminator armour = use the rules represented by the model."

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Would people think I'm a creepy sex pervert for saying my favorite model is the toxicrene

>>55321651
I don't like it for the points
>plas doritos
maybe, I'm on the fence, range is a big issue
>storm levi
yes, very much so

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What would a failed possession result in? What if a daemon tries to posses a Bezerker but the latter is angier and more bloodthirsty than the daemon?

repost
>Bors

I've thought about trying to come up with some rules for him, but I feel like anything I make for him will just be in direct competition to a GM stat block and hard to fit a points niche.
I don't really know what special rules would be cool, maybe give him a variation of the old Holocaust power for his Smite? I dunno

I think they've been at about 44 for awhile. At least since Crowe took over.
He mentions a quarter of them deploy (10+the soon-to-be-previous Castellan) on a mission in Warden of the Blade.

Speaking of GKs. I really would like to see some more exploration of Titan.
Aren't there some really weird things hanging around the wastes outside the Citadel?

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>>55321691
You're a degenerate m8. There's only one form of redemption for you.

>>55321691
Are you a creepy sex pervert?

>>55321737
I like it because the tentacles are stupid big, not because I read the mangos

>>55321691
But that's double heresy!

>>55321332
they put a null helmet on him and send him to the haemonculi

>>55320864
December codices are?

>>55321651
For some baffling reason, forgeworld forgot that the Javelin had TWIN LINKED missile launchers, and forgot this. They also fucking forgot the hunter killer racks, and it's outflanking ability.

It was then priced at literally double the 7th edition cost, but simultaneously kept none of the abilities and equipment that made it "Slightly more than mediocre" in 7th edition. It was actually kinda nice to have an outflanking javelin that could hammer a tank from the side/rear with 4 missiles to take it out.

8th edition removed that because forgeworld is lazy bastards.

>>55320987
sell and buy more traitor shits ofc

>>55321761
Well, if you like them for being stupid big, you might be a creepy sex pervert. Unless you're a grill, then it's called having standards.

>>55321024
Post models.

>>55321346
Good choice.

How did you paint the base?

>>55321857
Is that not what the 2d6 shots for frag and 2 shots for krak is for? Or is that normal for missile launchers? I'm admech, we make the stuff, we don't get to use it.

>>55321346
Good stuff, mate. Lords of Contagion can equip Manreapers now, too.

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Death Guard have a few memey, lowish point elite characters. Which would you use?

They all have the following statline:
M5", WS3+, BS3+, S4, T5, W4, A3, Ld8, Sv 3+
They all have disgustingly resilient (5+ FNP) and most have plague weapon stuff (reroll 1s to wound, interacts with warlord trait/stratagems as well).

Noxious Blightbringer, 80pts:
Has plasma pistol and plague bell which is just a regular attack but with 2 damage and plague weapon. Makes enemies that are 7" away 1ld lower, or 2 if vs psyker. Allows friendly DG units within 7" to roll 2 dice when advancing and discard the lowest one.

Foul Blightspawn, 77pts:
Can throw a 2d6 grenade (S3 ap 0, damage 1, plague weapon). Enemy units which are in charged and are within 7" of him don't go first.
Has a flamer: Assault D6, 9" Range, S2d6, Ap-3, damage 3, auto hits, plague weapon.

Biologus Putrifier, 74 pts:
Has special grenade. 6" range, S4, Ap0, 2 damage, plague weapon and wounds of 6 are mortal wound. Explodes on a 4+, dealing 1 mortal wound to all n 7" except nurgle units.
Causes all blight grenades of nearby DG units within 3" to be S4, 2 damage and mortal wound on 6.
Has a pistol, Pistol 1, Range 3", S4, Ap-1, D6 damage plague weapon. Only does 1 damage vs vehicles.

Plague Surgeon, 74 pts:
Rerolls rolls of 1 for friendly DG infantry on their Disgustingly Resillient.
+1 to wound and hit vs Space Marine infantry or Bikers.
Has Balesword (Power sword with Plague Weapon, S user, ap-3, 1 damage)

Tallyman, 60 pts:
Has WS and BS of 5+ rather than 3+. Has a plasma pistol.
Friendly DG that are 7" from him reroll all hits in the fight phase.
Every time you activate a stratagem, roll 2d6. On a total roll of 7, refund that.

>>55321537
Crunch discussions are just skub fights too.
>I like this rule.
>Fuck off WAACfag it's fucking OP
>Not really because [mathhammer]
>I FUCKING KNEW IT WAACFAG KYS YOU'RESELVE
>But the rule only really does shit in [situation]
>NO IT'S FUCKING OH PEE BECAUSE REASONS
Or reverse the argument, exchange caps lock cruise control or give it to both sides as requred and you have a typical 40kilograms crunch war.

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>>55321726
Who the fuck are you talking too, anon?

>>55321918
The Javelin is supposed to have a twin-linked typhoon missile launcher, which would be 4d6 shots or 4 krak. Sadly it has just a single one now, and no re-roll to hit ability or anything to make up for it.

>>55321960
Anon. I forgot to backlink.

>>55321948
Holy shit you're right. Why do I keep coming back?

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>>55321942
None, cause I'm no damn heretic.

>>55321948
>tfw Raven Guard shitposting about how OP the Dreadnoughts were
What a time it was to be alive.

>>55321942
>Tallyman
So a slightly less than average chance to get a refunded CP when using them? That's actually better than the Ultramarine warlord trait one, if you're going for a general CHAOS list, there is literally no reason you wouldn't take that guy.

>>55322029
>1/12
>slightly less than average

>>55322074
There are more 2d6 face combinations that will make 7 than any other number, I see you don't Catan

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>>55322074
Not exactly.

>>55321942
They're such easy ways to get a free CP with a vanguard detachment.

>>55322074
que? You roll 2d6 and need to get 7. That's not a 1/12 chance. In fact, I was wrong, it's exactly average.

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>>55322074
Good work, anon.

New Thousand Sons stuff:

1. Magnus (Big boy, Primarch)
2. Ahriman (Named guy, cool dude)
3. Exalted Sorcerer (HQ dude)
4. Rubric Marines (Power armour troops)
5. Tzaangors (Your cultist stand-in)
6. Scarab Occult Terminators (Your terminators)

Rubrics and Terminators dont have many wargear option beyond a rotor cannon on the odd guy and flamers.

New Death Guard stuff:

1. Mortarion (Big boy, Primarch).
2. Typhus (Named guy, cool dude)
3. Lord of Contagion (HQ dude)
4. Malignant Plaguecaster (Caster, HQ dude)
5. Blightlord Terminators (Generic terminators, can go melee or ranged)
6. Deathshroud Terminators (Specialized character guard and melee terminators)
7. Blightbringer (Cool bell boy unique model)
8. Blightspawn (Cool flamer boy unique model)
9. Putrifier (Cool grenade boy unique model)
10. Surgeon (Cool apothecary boy unique model)
11. Tallyman (Cool chaplain boy unique model)
12. Plague Marines (Power armour troops)
13. Poxwalkers (Your cultist stand-in)
14. Bloat Drone (New fast vehicle)
15. Blight Hauler (mobile support vehicle)
16. Plaguecrawler tank (cool new tank)

Death Guard stuff seems more numerous, has more options and seems better. And given how TS were just updated, I doubt they'll get new stuff any time soon. They're basically stuck with what they have for another decade, maybe more while DG have tons of stuff for the future. Sad.

>>55322074
6/1 2/5 3/4

BUT this is done on both dice. So it's 1/6 actually, faggot.

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>>55322161
So what? Thousand Sons have always sucked and Magnus looks like a drag queen.

>>55322161
Index cards codex anon. Tsons are getting a lot in their codex.

>>55322161
As a Thousand Sons player, I didn't need more. The Tzaangors are already more than what TS really needed. All I want is enough psychic powers to have a valid reason to field 2 sorcerers and Ahriman again, and still have shit to cast with the aspiring sorcerers.

>>55322074
>>55322101
>>55322171
I personally assumed that it would be a roll of 7 or over.

But on second thought, having to get exactly 7 does sound Nurgley.

>>55322161
Maybe there is still new TS stuff incoming,they are more played and wanted by 40k players than smelly guard

>>55322161
maybe 1ksons get some new Units, but honestly this DG stuff is way to overkill in terms of Units

Atleast the Characters, They could finally bring out Chaos Apothecaries and some of the Chaos Equivalent to the tons of generic HQ marines have. Instead of attaching it to DG locking it off from the majority of CSM players.

Because meanwhile, the other Legions get Fuckall

For once I agree with Chaosfags whining

>>55322268
Anon, any Chaos player can use the apothecary.

>>55321990
No, twin linked cyclone missile launcher.

Should still be twice as many shots.

>>55322161
The difference is, the new Thousand Sons stuff looked good. At least half of the Death Guard stuff looks like a bizarre cartoonish caricature.

Since I'm me, my opinion is verifiable fact. Deal with it.

>>55322184
That stuff matters. I started a few months ago and was torn between TS and DG.

I liked TS lore and play style more, while I liked DG models and Nurgle more. In the end I went with the one which GW supported better with more models and better value starting stuff.

>>55322230
It's very similar to the UM faction rule since it applies to whole swaths of CP instead of a 5+ dice roll per CP spent.

I think mathematically they will both return the same amount of CP per game, but the UM one is uncounterable whereas the DG one can be removed from the board.

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>>55322161

maybe they can get their magic powered beeboop and some low model count psychic shock troops?

>>55322295
Well, untrue, kill the UM warlord and the trait is no longer in effect, but seeing as every UM player uses Girlyman, if he's dead, game is already over.

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>>55322286
I disagree, the TS aesthetics don't really work for me. Too much ornate Egyptian shit.

>>55322074
>>1/12
What the fuck are you talking about 1/12?

Even if you don't understand that the different results aren't equally likely there aren't twelve different values you can generate with 2D6 (you can't get a result of 1, can you?)

>>55322306
Nah, fuck off, it's bad enough the Legions get special bloops in 30k, if Admech players wait years for FoC only for Marines to start getting their bloops as well, Imma blow my lid.

>>55322306
A dreadnought that's just a metal box on legs with some dust in it to the replace the Hellbrute would be nice (because the Hellbrute model does not fit in a Thousand Sons army at all)

>>55322306
A ton of stuff from AoS could have been ported over.

Incidental PSA: buy the AoS Tzaangors, they're slightly cheaper. They lack the pistol sprue but pistols are mathematically inferior so don't bother with them.

>>55322369
I hate how the Tzaangors are bigger than scarab occult terminators ...

>>55322283
Not if you want to benefit from the codex

>>55322359
This is the unit the tsons get actually. A psychic dreadnought.

>>55322390
I hate how marine players are so insecure about the height of their army mans.

>>55321942
blightbringer always good, tallyman always good, blightspawn sometimes good. rest meh.

About to start a new Tzeentch themed army tomorrow
I'm thinking about the Start collecting, a pack of Rubric Marines, some Blue horrors and a Gaunt Summoner just because nigga's fucking awesome
Some tips ?

>>55321024
Post models you fag

>>55322314
My bad. I forgot that the trait I mentioned was a Warlord trait.

>>55321942

>5 different types of Exalted Champion that take up an elite slot each

Why not just make them the same unit with different wargear options?

>>55321942
>tally man fudges the numbers so you get your points back
FIFTY

>>55321409
How do we explain 30k Scarab Occult Termies are in Cataphractii and 40k are in Tartaros? protip:we can't

>>55321942
Tallyman seems quite good. Not sure how to use him though. Just keeping him in the backfield with a blob of cultists/poxwalkers and plinking at enemies if they are in range?

So I'm gonna ask this again, since no one answered in the last thread. Does anyone have scans of the official decals sheets from GW and/or FW? I'll probably end up picking them up off FW and second hand eventually if not.

>>55322481
>>55321409

>people complain that a unit swaps their suit once every 11000 years

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So this is a list I'm currently working on modeling so I can take it to tourney stuff in the future.

I have the biker meks already, and a squad of 30 stormboys already too. So I'm converting 180 of my already painted boys into stormboys.

So here's the trick, do you fags know of some kind of rocket type thing I could find or make easily cheapish? I'm pretty much just gonna glue/magnetize them to my already made boys because I don't want this to take me a decade.

>>55321409
IT

HAS

BEEN

*TEN*

*THOUSAND*

FUCKING

YEARS

>>55322574
>210 fucking stormboys at 2k points
what the flying flippity fucking fuck dude

>>55322543
Hey Mr Tallyman, Tally me pa-lasma

Plaguetime come and me wan go home.

>>55322598
>>55322556
So why are plague marines still in MkIII?

>>55321703
Exorcist Marines.

Basically, you become near invisible to daemons.

>>55322625
FIVE NURGLING SIX NURGLING SEVEN NURGLING BUNCH!

PLAGUETIME COME AN ME WAN GO HOME

>>55322161
Do people not like Tzaangors?

Personally I aesthetically love them and am really interested in picking some up and starting a TS army (not just for Tzaangors, love all the TS models and their fluff).

>>55320795
Ogryn/Bullgryn orders. Maybe 20 man Infantry squads. That's it.

>>55322642

cause MK3 is fancy as fuck

>>55322481
30k ones have option for both Cataphractii and Tartaros.

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>>55322574
I think the easiest, best looking, and cheapest way would be to just buy the rocket bits on ebay

also that's a sick list, although im more of a Burna Boy myself

>>55322642
Who fucking cares.

I still can't believe people can even recognise power armour variants.

>>55322662

That plus -20pt on (non-hq) russes

Tsons Psychic dread, 9 wounds, character.
Bonus to smite (can choose the target with an extended range)
Armed with powerful warpflamers.

>>55322642
They literally arent, atleast not all of them. If you look at some of the Model you see them replacing some Armor with other patterns just like some of their characters

>>55322688
I'd agree to that as well. I only take Tank Commander Russes since normal Russes are so expensive and barely do any damage. Really need that BS3+ or Pask's 2+.

>>55322653
Da plasma´s frying red Warpspida!

Plaguetime come and me wan go home...

>>55322426
The Gaunt Summoner has 40k rules?

>>55322679
>Who fucking cares.

Tartaros, Indomitus and Cataphractii have different rules.

>I still can't believe people can even recognise power armour variants.

Yes, pattern recognition is an amazing skill to have in life.

>>55322679
>I still can't believe people can even recognise power armour variants.
Peasant.

>>55320864
SeemsGood.

>>55322703
>They literally arent

Which one of the new models isn't in MkIII?

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>>55322679

>>55322709
PLAGUE! He say plague, he say plague, he say plague, he say plague, he say pla-ay-ay-gue-o

Plaguetime come and he wan' go home

>>55320913
>Lost second small game against my girlfriend; found out that the succubus is a beast
Should've realized before dating her desu.

>>55322642
God you're a fucking nerd

>>55322718
Nop, just for the fun of painting him
I'd maybe play him as a Changeling or a Herald

>>55322784
Not an argument.

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>>55322779

>>55322800
Don't need an argument, just kys if these small details trigger your autism

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>>55322779

>>55322761
Glorious ending.

So, who is going to make this into a video now?

>>55322729
and they obviously have the rules of the Armor theyre wearing geez to think uncorrupted 30k Death Shroud and Nurgle 41k Shroud to have different rules.

>>55322746
Plenty of them wear some non-mk3 backpacks Shouldpads or helmets even

Please just stop turning every fucking thread into childish lore arguments in a setting that is unsure about its cannon and is purely running (always has and always will) on the rule of cool

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>>55322823

>>55322834
>9gag image on 4chan thread capped for ifunny
This image is all sorts of fuck

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>>55322679

I may be missing something but the IA-index: Astra Militarum lists the R&H as being able to bring both the "Earthshaker Battery" and the "Earthshaker Carriage Battery". The only difference I see is that the latter has a crew(4x for 11pts), but no real advantages. Why would anyone take the latter?

>>55322908
It's also smaller, and the crew can serve as small-fire shields (and screen against deep strike) with their lasguns. Other than that I don't see any benefit.

>>55322161
>Fagnus cucked yet again
It's only to be expected, anon.

>>55322889

>4chan greentext
>1st hit on google image search

do you seriously expect me to scroll trought pages of greentexts to find a non-watermarked one?

>>55322947
>not removing the mark
FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55322850
>and they obviously have the rules of the Armor theyre wearing

Armour they switched, for some reason, while others did not. For some reason.

>Plenty of them wear some non-mk3 backpacks

Which ones? All seem to be more or less corrupted MkIIIs.

>Shouldpads or helmets even

Those are very interchangeable between suits, even in 30k era. 40k Deathshrouds are not wearing Tartaros with different style shoulder pads and helmets.

>Please just stop turning every fucking thread into childish lore arguments

Please start having something to say, instead of just bitching about someone asking a very simple question.

>>55322947
I didn't expect you to do anything. How the fuck did you get that from my post? You seem very defensive.

>>55322935
Smaller? It's the same gun isn't it?
And yeah that's a good point now that everyone and their dog can deepstrike.

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>>55322679

>>55322970
The Khorne Berzerker style ones.

>>55322908
The battery and platform are actually different models. That is the main reason for the two similar entries

>>55322994
The ones that are MkIII with just extended vents?

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Post yfw Chaos will get fucked in FoK

>>55322679
What is it like to be mentally deficient?

>>55321672
But FW = pay-to-win, WAACfag stuff.

>>55323047
What if I use FW models with GW rules? Like Horus as Abaddon?

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>>55322982
The Earthshaker Platform for the battery is an emplaced gun (it comes with its crew), while the carriage is an Earthshaker cannon on wheels. Aside from the crew, that's the only difference that comes to mind.

>>55320761
Objective Secured should be reserved for Elite armies and Hordes should get a different reward for battleforged detachments

>>55322908
Carriage batteries can be moved via the Centaur, the emplacements are completely stationary (Not that an earthshaker ever needs to move)

>>55323016
Now I get it. Thing that confused me was that the Carriage is the only FW model being sold, guess they put it's stats in there for people who has the platform style model.

>>55322970
>Armour they switched, for some reason, while others did not. For some reason.
30k Deathshroud arent their official/legal models so you're wrong.

>Which ones? All seem to be more or less corrupted MkIIIs.
Theres plenty and I wont bother looking them up for human garbage

>Please start having something to say, instead of just bitching about someone asking a very simple question.

People dont want to have an argument or talk with you for that matter here.

Please just go back to lurking autismo.
No one cares if youre right or wrong just fuck off

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>>55323047
But I just wanted to cap off my army with cool models anon ;-;

>>55322651
Ah. I was wondering if the Bezerker ends up eating the daemon then.

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>>55322982
>top: Platform
>bottom: Carriage

>>55323091
That explains a lot (but not why you'd want to move a gun with a 20-foot range).

>>55323104
>30k Deathshroud arent their official/legal models so you're wrong.

So... FW is not canon and Deathshrouds have now always worn Cataphractii?

>Theres plenty

Somehow I very much doubt it.

>People don't want to have an argument or talk with you

So stop it then.

>>55323074
>What if I use FW models with GW rules?
You want to take a WAACfag FW model and then replace it's shit rules with better GW rules? Double WAACfag!

>>55323130
>But I just wanted to cap off my army with cool models anon ;-;
Nope, /40kg assures me that all FW models are pay to win shit that only WAACfags buy and no-one ever buys any of the models except the ones with broken rules.

Tips on building deathwatch? I read the tactics page but I'm confused about building kill squads.

>>55323104
>it's not my job to educate you, shitlord
I don't have a dog in this fight but you've clearly lost.

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Is there any nonfuturistic backpack bits for ork boyz? I need one with no ammo rounds etc.

>>55323197
You can't win with you people. Fuck it, I'm painting Horus pink.

>>55323269
I'd like to see the super chicken painted like Big Bird.

>>55323282
fuck that unit

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>>55323269
Pic related

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>>55322574
>roll to advance with entire army
>lose 35 models on averge

>>55323094
Easy way to make an emplacement is to get your hands on a flak 88 emplacement of a suitable size, then put a basilisk gun and fire shield on top of the "legs"

I'm now wondering if a smaller scale 88 emplacement would do as the base for a Tarantula.

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>ywn be cheered on by qt daemons
Even though one of them is from the retconnium, it still hurts.

>>55323236
Take a Vanguard Vet in every squad so you can fall back and shoot, then trick the fuckers out with guns. Make a squad with Frag Cannons and shotguns, make a squad entirely with Stalker Bolters and then fill the third Troops slot with a unit of Intercessors to get some cheap bodies into the army. Then grab a Watch Master and a Libby followed by a bunch of Bikers for the sweet sweet twin bolters with special issue ammo. Fill out with Flyers and for God's sake don't waste points on overcosted melee weapons. There, army done.

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>>55323263
most boyz backpacks have rounds, rockets, or in the case of the FW ones tankbuster bombs.

The best one I can think of would be this one, although it is Snikrots and still has 2 stikkbombs, so you'd have to recast it if you needed a lot of them

some 3rd pary places might have them but they more than likely are orked up, might have to look for human infantry packs if you want something large enough and non futuristic

what are you doing with them by the way, if I may ask

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>>55323351
where's plague-chan?

>>55320913
I lost my second girlfriend to a Dark Eldar

Playtesters and "playtesters"
Ork codex when reeeee

>>55323368
I want to magnetize an ork boy to use him in RPGs - both fantasy and sci-fi - but I can not find any GW non-futuristic backpack bitz that would fit the fantasy boy set. I already have everything I need from the AoS (weapons, shield etc.) but I still miss the generic bag. I hoped that I will find one in 40k

>>55320783
oh man this is almost as great as the nurgligs accompying morty

>>55320783
Imagine how fucking excited that little Nurgling was when he was given it.

>>55323448
I would highly recommend the Snikrot backpack then, the Stikkbombs could easily be made into axes with some clippers and super glue

>>55323131
Nah, he'd just push it out.

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why cant this fabulous mother fucker be in 40k?
on a side note anyone made his model a chaos space marine lord?

>>55323503
New releases have so many cool nurglings. I think I'll put them on separate bases, 1-2 per base.

>>55323569
> Thighs for days

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>>55323351
>captcha: kaos lopez

>>55320806
Wasn't there a daemon engine train -complete with autistic man child- in the lore?

>>55322662
>Ogryn/Bullgryn orders.
no
ogryn are WAY too stupid for orders

>>55323569
>why cant this fabulous mother fucker be in 40k?
Because 40k Chaos is less subtle than Fantasy Chaos. Pretty much everybody who serves a Chaos god in 40k always goes full horns, spikes and tentacles and shit.

>>55323580
I know, the new nurglings are fantastic.

What 3 powers would you take with Mortarion?

I think -1 to hit spell, why not, its good.

+1 to wound in fight and 6s mortal wound. Very good for his melee shenanagins, especially with his 18 attack mode.

Leper spell. Roll 7 dice against unit, deal mortal wound for each over their toughness.. and he has a -1 toughness aura. Noice.

Don't think he needs the +1t and +1s one. His str is so high, alongside -1t that he can wound T9 things on a +2. The toughness can be nice but really its meh IMO.

>>55323693
>+1 to wound in fight and 6s mortal wound
He'll be wounding most shit on a 2 anyway, with the -1T aura.

Are assassins WAAC?
Can imperial guard be WAAC?
Are inquisition WAAC?

>>55323662
god Im sick of spikes my slaanesh marines should be flawless works of beauty with simmering armor with the occasional daemon face or flayed skin. I might pick up sigvaulds model and convert it to a chaos lord

>>55323705
If he's using the sweeping mode, he's S8, which will mean he's better against guys like Guilliman. And the volume of attacks mean it will proc lots of moral wounds.

>>55323725
WASC is a mindset. Nothing is inherently WAAC.

Are nurglings the answer to conscript spam?

>>55323662
The only Tenctacles are DG and Possessed while the Fantasy WoC have the same amount of Spikes and Horned Helmets.Adding the fact that some CSM live in the fucking warp

>>55323569
>>55323737

Just put his Head Weapon and Shield on Power Armour. Or use the SC Vanguard Hunter sgt Head
I use mostly Mk4 Marines for my Slaanesh Marines with some bits splashed from Raptors and BA tacticals

>>55323725
>Are assassins WAAC?
Only if spammed
Can imperial guard be WAAC?
At the moment most people will shout waac at every reasonably well constructed Guard army because theyre just so powerful right now
Are inquisition WAAC?
Not really, Sisters are actually decent for once after decades and arent the hottest shit around so let them be

Also what >>55323752 said WAAC is a mindset not an Army

>>55323725
Are All-dreadnought armies WAAC?

>>55323744
Does the 6s = MW spell apply to the Nurgling attacks also?

>>55323784
>2000 points of Nurglings and Brimstone Horrors
Oh god, revenge of the mascots

What benefits do blood angels currently have over salamanders?

Is it just the unique assault units?

I don't see much reason to play them at all

>>55323725
Assassins and IG are WAAC now

>>55323737
Slaanesh isn't the god of beauty it's the god of excess. His champions are like the people who are addicted to plastic surgery in their pursuit of perfection and go way too far. They should look like the Bogdanoffs or that girl who turned herself into a cat, not supermodels. Though that's just, like, my opinion man.

>>55321942
>36 KB
> Death Guard have a few memey, lowish point elite characters. Which would you use?
tallyman

i dont care for the rules, the model is very cool

>>55323811
Librarian Dreadnought is currently their best unit and one of the best SM units overall.

>>55323806
Sure why not.

>>55323839
How so?

>>55323693
Yeah, pretty much those, for the reasons you stated. The +1S/T I would reserve for Typhus, so that he can either buff his Deathshroud bodyguards or that blob of Poxwalkers. The Plague Wind would of course be a no-brainer when the opponent brings Conscripts, because what other psychic power can kill 8.33 Conscripts a turn on average?

>>55323752
How many of my assassins can I use before it's spam? 4?

>>55323852
It's hard as fuck

>>55323858
More than 5 is seriously unfluffy.

>>55323858
i say max 1 assassin/army

>>55321942
Tallyman, blightbringer, and surgeon are the only ones that seem worth bringing to me

>>55323852
I would assume because it's a dreadnought character, thus a dreadnought that can't be shot at.

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>>55323858
That varies depending per opponent.

>TFW somebody accused you of GK Librarian spam when you had literally a single GK librarian in your armylist

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>>55323852
>Dread ridiculously great now
>Psychic powers pretty great now
>Mash em together

>>55323878
That's what she said

>>55323798
I hope not because I unironically love those mother fuckers.

>>55320761
Best weapons for a terminator captain assigned to hugging a squad of 6 Aggressors?

>>55322642
Cause MKIII was built to last!

>>55323798
Did you win the game?
Yes? Then yes.
Did you lose?
Then yes, but lol u suk.

>>55321942
ALL OF THEM.

>>55321942
Definitely the Putrifier. Not only do I like the visual joke of having a fly-helmet and "wings" made of potion racks, but that grenade buff, combined with the grenade stratagem, seems incredible.

Surgeon seems kinda meh. Going from 33% to 38% saved and only within 3" seems weak, especially compared to the Daemon Roomba confering cover bonuses. But I like the poisoned Power Sword and the buffs against muhreens.

Tallyman looks nice and acts like a budget Dark Apostle, shame that DG are meh in melee aside from Deathshrouds and I'd rather have my Deathshrouds around a Chaos Lord or Daemon Prince.

Blightspawn seems horrifying against tanks on paper but the super grenade ain't all that when you have that stratagem that lets every model in a squad toss a grenade. Although handing that 2D6 shot grenade to a Lord with 2+BS seems kinda nice.

>>55323881
>>55323905
>>55323918
What about psykers? A chimera with three squads of wyrdvane psykers, a primaris psyker and an astropath in a vanguard detachment.

>>55321346
Typhus' new model is fucking woeful
And not in a good way

>>55324003
Somebody will have to make a BY OUR POWERS COMBINED picture of all of them together once they're released.

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>Death Guard Daemon Princes can take wings for free until GW errata the book
MOST PROOFREAD EDITION

>>55323976
L I G H T N I N G C L A W S

Nice and blendy and cheap as fuck.

>>55324014
Not as bad as malefic lords.

>>55324014
Dont worry about it. You seem to be that new to the game that even if you play a really OP list no one should/will judge you. Just play what you want dude

>>55323815
This

>>55324014
You shouldn't worry that much about what is and what isn't spam. People will always find something to complain about or blame for them losing to your list if they want to.

>>55324051
What if it's intentional?

>>55323815
You mean Stalking Cat? He was a dude.

>>55324051
Say it with me, on three!
Three...
Two...
One...

MOST PLAYTESTED EDITION EVER?!?!

Is there a list of all Units that can "Snipe" characters? Not taking into account Psychic Phase,

Am I right to assume that Chaos has not a single Sniper Model?

>>55324071
I'll let anyone take what they want if its nicely painted/modelled

>>55323815
Hell yeah, also Cenobite pain fanatics, obese cannibals, skellingtons high off starvation.

>>55324061
Even if you don't intend on getting your captain in melee combat? I upgraded to chapter master so my intent was to fill everything with aggressor shots with free rerolls; I'm not sure throwing him into melee would be a good idea? Then again I'm still fairly new to the game so I could just be inexperienced

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>>55323815

>>55324121
Fuck off with that shit Anon, you meme bitch.

Fun fact: in the old Realm of Chaos days Mortarion could be a sponsor for your nurglite champion.

>>55324121
>On three
>Counts down to one

>>55324124
>Is there a list of all Units that can "Snipe" characters? Not taking into account Psychic Phase,
not that i heard of
>Am I right to assume that Chaos has not a single Sniper Model?
chaos renegades and heretics (i.e. traitor guard can take some )

>>55324124
>Is there a list of all Units that can "Snipe" characters?
>Leaving out one entire core part of the game for some arbitrary reason
ftfy

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>>55323737
This, slannesh marines, especially those from the emperors children, should be more like sigvald, with apperence completely at odds with their behavior. Failing that, disturbing parodies of beauty. Looking like pic related makes no fucking sense

>>55322574
Why not make that third Big Mek Zhadsnark or a warboss on bike? Get the Waaagh! in without killing your own unit. Or take grots for a different detachment and getting more command points

I've personally converted 50+ Stormboyz and used spare missiles from Dakkajet kits, some random barrels, two shootas tied together, spare rocket bits from nob kits and boy kits that were tied together, the barrels from Ork Burnas, also took some missiles from eldar, space marine, and chaos players.

Also the actual Stormboy plastic set gets can net you some extra rocket packs with some creativity.

>>55324282
Was probably hansome once until the really nasty combat drugs and the Warp took ahold.

>>55324140
Your Captain isn't going to be doing much shooting anyway so it doesn't really matter. I guess you could go for a Primarch's Wrath setup, but since Primarch's Wrath can't replace a Storm Bolter, you can't even give that to the Captain in Terminator Armour. So at this point, it's pretty much a waste to put any gun on him, so you might as well give him the Lightning Claws setup, as anything more expensive is wasted on a babysitter and buff dispenser

>>55324124
Noise marines should be able to when they die, because that isn't the shooting phase, right?

>>55324324
I don't have alot of anti-armor. Would a Thunder Hammer + Storm Shield be better to help patch that gap?

We got new art for beast of nurgle, no actual pic of model in the codex, that sugest new model.

Dose rules for beast are better in new dex? If they are good I would say its 90% chance for new model so it will sell good.

>>55323907
Grenade one combines with the stratagem that allows the whole unit to throw 'nades. 20 Plague Marines and a few characters could do a lot of damage with those, should they somehow make it in range.

Just put my limited edition Primaris Captain on e-bay.

Hope he sells well! Wanna buy some more nurgle stuff!

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Finally had a game with this guy, and he did quite well. First charged a few remaining CSM bikers with flamers, survived the overwatch, and smashed all of them to bits himself. After that he singlehandedly finished off a damaged Chaos Contemptor.

>>55321039
>free for all
Where's the fun in that anon. Ends up a 2v1 then a 1v1 anyway

>>55324402
They arent DG they are Nurgle Daemons

There was a Anon posting about the Daemon Codex Earlier and that there will be new Slaanesh Daemons so wouldnt surprise if each God gets atleast one new Unit and one revamped Model

New Beast Of Nurgle Snails are pretty much confirmed

>>55324369
Absolutely not. Not only is the Captain a vital part of your gunline that needs to stay where he is, he is also a prime target. I mean, you want to turn him into a Chapter Master, so he has a gigantic bull's eye painted on his forehead anyway and you don't want to make it even easier for the opponent to kill him. The four knocks he gets with the hammer also won't do that much and the load-out is damned expensive.

Basically, if you're that worried about anti-tank, get a Redemptor. Other than that, the gauntlets your Aggressors are swinging should be enough to poke holes in any tanks you might be worried about.

>>55324402
+1 wound

>>55324456
The real question is whether his rerolls in combat are worth going for over the GMs reroll 1s in shooting and combat, and if you're fine with losing the extra psychic power/CC power (especially if you take Voldus over a GM)

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>>55324456
You forgot the moustache.

>>55324402
Well, they kept their old point cost and got an additional wound just like Possessed, so that's kinda nice.

And yeah, if there are new Beasts that look precisely like that concept art, I'd be all over those, if only because that new Age of Sigmar character buffs the Beasts to high heaven and I play Nurgle in both systems.

>>55324499
Currently just using him because the allowed point values in the local campaign are rather small, and it's difficult to fit everything you need in a small amount of points with GK.
In larger games I use Voldus, because that guy is OP as fuck

>>55324479
To be honest I completely forgot Aggressors had notpower fists...

Guess it's lightning claws for me then. Thanks anon

>>55324532
>if there are new Beasts of any kind, I'd be all over those
because the current selection of beats and spawns are fucking garbage, on level with WHFB's Pumbagor

>>55324532
New Art is supposed to match the Miniature not the other way around so theyre pretty much inbound.

This actually makes me unhappy about the new Keeper of Secrets looking as stupid as Zarakynel.

>>55324470
There is entry in new DG codex for Beast of nurgle m8.

As for snails, do you mean like that awesome gardener snail? Oh gods...thx U

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Would-be Tau newfag from previous threads. I ordered the Start Collecting Tau Empire thing, waiting for that to arrive and then I'll get painting. Found this (image related) really cool (imo) paint scheme I'm going to copy, with slight alterations

I also looked at a bunch of YouTube videos, and apparently the Ethereal is a shit HQ choice, and that I should make a Crisis suit my HQ and either get a couple more Fire Warriors or 10 Kroot. What does /tg/ think?

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>>55324470
>new Slaanesh Daemons
What did I miss?

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>>55324526
Better ?

>>55324582
Yeah, it's kinda sad that the older-than-dirt Beasts of Nurgle actually look better than the recent ones.

Also screw you I like Pumbaagor, it looks so dumb it's awesome. It those things weren't finecrap I'd have a couple of them.

>>55324602
Ethereals aren't terrible
What kinda army you want?

>>55320987
>I don't play Marines
>I play Marines at the moment

>>55320803
What do you think?

That was a rhetorical question because only a complete dipshit thinks that the RAI isn't obvious as fuck. Literally every other bonus of this type isn't permanent so why the fuck would you think this one is. Permanent buffs can't be activated repeatedly.

>>55324647
>What kinda army you want?
I don't know? What do you mean like composition or how I want to play or what I like just as a concept/what units appeal to me or what?

>>55324593
>There is entry in new DG codex for Beast of nurgle m8.
What he means is that you lose your Death Guard faction abilities if you include the Beasts in your detachment. So if you want to keep those Death Guard traits you either have to summon the Daemons in or make a second detachment containing them.

>>55320926
Then you should ask GW instead.

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>>55320761
>taking two Terminator captains
>or 1 termie captain and 1 gravis captain
is this a stupid idea?

>>55324623
Some Anon posted Daemon Codex Stratagems and how they generate CP during the Battle.

Then another anon pointed out that the Slaanesh one is pretty hard to pull off unless you spam 2 Units.

To which the first replied that there will be new "Sniper"-Daemons which come in size 1-3 which may move 6" after shooting something. also apparently new Rules for The Masque.

Might not be True but not the first time in recent time some GW employee or playtester spoiled something which turned out to be True (see Mortarion)

>>55324593
Is that the 'great cultivator' creature that was rumoured?

>>55323858
Anything beyond one of each temple would be spam

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>>55324625
>chaplin

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>>55324727
>great cultivator

>>55324683
So nurgle demons in fuking Nurgle marines army arent nurgle enough? I knew those faction keywordds were retarded.
What kind of powers Herald of Nurgle have now? Those in DG index codes or something diffrent?

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>>55324727
Yes.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/29/who-is-horticulous-slimux-aug29gw-homepage-post-3/

>>55324671
>how I want to play or what I like just as a concept/what units appeal to me or what?
both

>>55324723
Okay I'd love to grab some Slaaneshi Sniper Daemons so I hope it is true

>>55324779
Heralds and Greater daemons are not allowed in DG army, only the lesser ones.

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>>55324789
so hype for Dakkanettes

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>>55324744

>>55324786
I want to be a huge faggot and kill my enemies from zonks away with pulsed plasma

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>>55324784
>someone saved my shitty OC
Oh boi

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>>55324805
Brother!

>>55324795
>Heralds and Greater daemons are not allowed in DG arm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Ok I guess that meme about playtested ed wasnt shit after all. So I have to take separate detachments to field my demons and my marines? SAD.

>>55324779
Herald and GUO aren't in the DG codex, so they're still the same. DG Codex only has Nurglings, Plaguebearers, Plague Drones and Beasts of Nurgle.

According to GW this is so you don't have to buy the Index in order to summon some Daemons, which makes sense, I guess. Also, since the DG trait is very, very specific, you can just make a detachment filled with Daemons, Sorcerers and Daemon Engines and call that your second detachment while making sure to keep all your DG infantry and Helbrutes in the pure DG detachment.

>>55324805
So buncha fire warriors, with fireblades and ethereals and some markerlights for synergy.
Gonna need something higher strength for anti armour once you have more than a small force

>>55324742
That's the joke.

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>>55324795
>allowed

That's just what they printed in the codex.

Nothing stops you from summoning a GUO or Herald from the Index.

The ones they put in this codex can't be in the same detachment as your Death Guard, its purely for summoning purposes.