Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1734: Eclipse Is Best Star Destroyer Edition

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>>55315085
So anons, those of you with minions at least. Do you have the most widely despised form of minion in any vidya at your disposal?

I'm talking about those fuckers who run at you and then explode

>>55315104
>I can still hear the hissing

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OP= A man with excellent taste

So thread. Are you up for a bit of cooperative creation? Because I've got a bunch of OC power slots to fill out in an upcoming jump, few limits on the sorts of powers and a hankering to encourage some creativity. If you want a chance to maybe get a power of your own design in, read on.
I'm in the process of writing up a short jump for a series called Petals of Reincarnation. In this series, there are guys called Reincarnators who call back to an ancestor to gain a Talent/Power from them. These are generally based on their achievements and can get pretty kooky. By taking on those powers, you often get visual or even mental changes (Don't worry about this stuff, the jump will address it and provide ways around it). That said, isaac Newton becoming a man with an apple for a head is pretty funny.

Isaac Newton can create apples that he controls the gravity around in a 4 metre diameter, with enough strength to warp space or turn people to paste in an instant, even supernaturall tough people. Schrodinger can choose any possible path for his life to take, such as choosing for a single shot he makes to kill all his foes, so long as that possible path is, well, possible. Simo Hayha (Yeah, he gotta be in there) gets a snow based Reality Marble and crazy sniper skills.

So we got some pretty sweet stuff here. The Reincarnators are all based on actual historical figures, no purely mythical folk here, though historical/myth mixes work just fine. The powers can be pretty varied and even pretty strong. In the untranslated parts (Holy fuck why does the translation cut off just as we get to see a dozen more foes introduced) they can wipe out cities or mountains, with things like orbital satellite astronaut lasers or what has to be Nikola Tesla firing giant lightning bolts. Even on the hax side, guys like Schrodinger above are crazy.

contd

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So here's my idea. Take a look at the canon powers that are going in the jump (http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Petals_of_Reincarnation /Yes I know it's VS Battles but you just need to deal. Ignore everything but the power descriptions at the bottom of each page, the power stuff is accurate but everything else is pointless. This is the only good site that easily lists them all.).

Now that you had a look and know what sort you're working with, why not come up with some OC stuff? Since the non power section is going to be fairly small in this jump and the powers themselves are fairly light on rules, I thought I'd try and include as much OC as I can find. If you'd like a specific sort of power and can find a good historical figure to base it on, this is a chance to see it be used in jump. Of course if you don't want to, that's fine to.

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Could I get some feedback on the JLU WIP? I'm still having trouble thinking up good powers, perks, and items to include.

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>>55315104
No. My minions are adorable and the reason they are such big threats is that if you hurt one I will come for you.

>>55315132
>>55315142
Oda Nobunaga
Your hands turn into guns.

>>55315144
>Implying those minions don't run at enemies with explosives.

>>55315156
Can't turn down Gunsgunsguns.

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>>55315143
>JLU JUMP

FUCKING YES DUDE I AM SO FUCKING PSYCHED

>>55314979
I am unsure what you mean, if you mean by using a different power source than magic like electricity, they'd probably just be a regular demon every time.

>>55315132
Andreas Vesalius, author of De humani corporis fabrica libri septem. Grants a biomancy/flesh warping power

>>55315156
That's far too simple and easy to understand to work for Nobunaga. Also, it's retarded.

Petal Talents have less to do with legends or accomplishments and more to do with the idea of personal abilities that create those legends and accomplishments. Ignore the fact that Nobunaga used riflemen to conquer Japan. Ask what sort of talent he had that would have allowed him to accomplish that feat.

If anything, I would give him a "talent for explosives" and say it leads to him being able to just spawn gunpowder out of nothing in arbitrary amounts, manipulate it telekinetically regardless of whether it's his or someone else's, and set it off at will.

>>55315234
Sounds wicked.

>>55315205
I mean if you use something like ki, do they gain ki, or just whatever magic it gives them?

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>>55315132
>>55315142
Napoleon. Not 100% sure what the power would be, but the man is known as the "King of Artillery" for a reason.

Charlemagne? Maybe he can summon up 12 minions to represent the Paladins.

Richard the Lionheart. Holy Crusader powers

Any famous pirate, with the ability to summon up their ship. I vote for Blackbeard, just because the Queen Anne's Revenge was fucking sweet.

Diogenes, can turn men into chickens

The Red Baron-His fucking plane, or maybe he can fly on his own and fire weapons from his hands or something

Andrew Jackson- He can force anyone into a 1-on-1 duel

>>55315265
Wait, then what the fuck do apples have to do with Newton's own personal skills? That's a direct reference to his 'legend'

>>55315143
When Size Shifting says it goes down to "microscopic levels" is that subatomic like the Atom, or is it significantly larger?

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>>55315142
Teddy Roosevelt! He really liked nature, maybe something relating to that. He could also have extreme intimidation powers.

There's also Louis Pasteur, maybe he could have really powerful purification skills or able to kill the cells inside someone by using heat on them!

And then there's Emperor Justinian, who had a really good talent for designating the right people for the job and was able to band together a very quirky cast of characters to do really big and ambitious projects (like for example, finding the perfect person for sorting out the GIANT mess that was the legal system back then) and in general being really good at expanding the city. Maybe he could have a really good talent in assessing people's strengths and weaknesses?

And then there's Marie Curie, who could have extreme nuclear powers. and Rosalind Franklin, who did a lot of work in DNA stuff so maybe she could have those abilities?

And the Wright Bros could have flying abilities or being able to summon attack planes!

>>5531528
Napoleon and his wonderful artillery are already there.

Charlemagne? Sounds cool. I like that one.

Richard is also potentially cool. Perhaps some light based powers.

I think rather then a ship, it'd be better to do things based on their other feats. Blackbeard that can turn into smoke and flame demon for instance.

Diogenes....not sure. That might be too much of a stretch.

Red Baron should be something yeah. May be too similar to Rudel though.

Jackson could be cool with something extra.

>>55315142
Joan of Arc: Morale raising aura, all allies within a certain radius are filled with a fervour and energy for battle, allowing them to fight on when they would normally falter.

Jack the Ripper: Capable of disguising oneself and hiding evidence of crimes, or at least hiding any that might point to the user.

>>55314905

In Golden Morning in canon, he wasn't really fighting pragmatically. Which can be butterflied, and you really don't want him to fight smart.

The issue is his Powers and the cosmology of worm.

Scion is a high-level threat, because you need a bunch of exotic powers to kill him.

He has powers other than dimensional travel.

He can travel dimensions, and attack from other dimensions as well.
The golden man you see floating around isn't his real body, and his real body is hidden in a universe that is blocked off.

Hitting the avatar doesn't hurt him directly. He takes energy to heal the avatar, but he has a lot of it. Biggatons don't work to kill him, since any damage that is more than what is needed to force the avatar to reform is wasted.

To kill him (baring certain weird powers) you have to get to his real form, which is a challenge in itself since it is blocked off.

The other thing is that there are around 1^80 different universes in Worm, so you can forget finding him by trial and error.

His primary offensive power is rather versatile. It cancels out wavelengths. Pretty much everything is a wave (particles count as waves).
It can do some weird stuff, like it somehow allowed him to cancel out a area of looped time.
It also has a massive range, he was able to strike a target on the other side of the ocean with it.
It basically ignores normal forms of durability.


He also has PtV.

>>55315143
Neat! I've been looking forward to this for a while.

An Amazonian origin/race/whatever would be a good inclusion - Wonder Woman is a character that looks large in the Justice league. I'm a little surprised that there's no Kryptonian option here (especially considering there's an Argoan), but I figure that you not wanting to step on the toes of the Superman:TAS jump?

Btw, would picking the scientific power source and superspeed let me mess around with the speedforce? I've already gone the Batman and Superman routes in their respective jumps, and kind of want to go Flash here (I've already got the Arrow verse jump for all speedforce related insanity, but the Flash is just fun).

>>55315328
All fantastic suggestions.

Wright Bros are actually in canon already, think they're just not on that list.


Oh, forgot to mention too. While great historical figures are good, great sinners of history also work. Serial killers, mass murderers, tyrants, traitors and so on all form the Sinner section. So if you have any nasty faves, feel free there too.

>>55315350
Joan is nice, may add some sort of Martyr based ability too.

Jack too is good. Hiding evidence and changing own hysical appearance, maybe some fog stuff too.

>>55315351
Wow, my formatting is terrible.

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Any info about Addams Family jump ?

>>55315289
The apples are an aesthetic. His talent is manipulation of gravity.

Please stop.

>>55315049
Oh I gave them a way to FTL.
I did it by creating the Admech.
THE FLESH IS WEAK!

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>>55315132

Genghis Khan- Hax boost to planing

Diomedes- Being able to ignore defenses/ harm anything

August Vollmer- He's know as the "father of law enforcement" for a reason

Maybe Francisco Pizarro, Marco Polo or Blackbeard?

>>55315400
Anon, you're making very little sense. There are plenty of powers that don't work as you describe. You're right in that a lot of suggestions may not be quite right but they do give many ideas that can then be adjusted into properly fitting powers.

>>55315406
Genghis is a bit too generic and there's numerous other sorts.

Diomedes I believe is entirely mythical.

Hm. Law enforcement may be good....

Marco Polo having some sort of navigation/travel ability is gonna make it.

>>55315361
>great sinners of history also work. Serial killers, mass murderers, tyrants, traitors and so on all form the Sinner section
Well the obvious answer would be Caligula. But I have no fucking idea what his power would be.

Oh! Right. My favorite assassin ever.
Rashid ad-Din Sinan- Not sure what his powers would be, again. But he lead the Hashasharim during the Third Crusade. When Saladin seiged Masyaf he went into Saladin's war camp, alone, into Saladin's tent. Then left a dagger, a threatening note, and a plate of (unknown, many sources say scones, but they all agree it was some type of pastry.). Only Saladin saw him during this event, and it's believed he let Saladin see him.

>>55315400
>His talent is manipulation of gravit
Which has nothing to do with "talent he had that would have allowed him to accomplish that sort of feat"
Instead it has to do directly with the feat itself.

>>55315333
Honestly I don't know how Diogenes would work with combat abilities. Maybe some weird social mind fuck by being a god-level weirdo and mega-based at the same time?

>>55315142
One of the big three of Ancient Western philosophy, Plato. Like the 'Monarchs' presented in his dialogue "Res Publica", one could come to possess a sense of absolute benevolent authority, over either the hearts of men or the environment. Fitting for the philosopher-king of an ideal autocracy.

>>55315142
Josef Stalin: User is capable of unpersoning someone if they kill them, erasing any evidence of their existence. They have not been outright retconned out of existence, however, there's just no evidence they existed. Records, memories, scars, every trace or evidence that they existed is gone.

>>55315142
>>55315132
>Mary Shelly
>Modern Prometheus: Able to conjure up storms and call down bolts of lightning that can reanimate the dead?
>Changes your appearance to look like a stitched up corpse.

>Lovecraft
>?: Madness aura or discover hidden knowledge?
>Transforms you into a dark amorphous blob or tentacle monster.

>Edgar Allan Poe
>Nevermore: Induce lethal despair or sickness in others with your words or with a single touch?
>Makes you look pale and sickly and causes you to grow wings for arms or other raven like features.

>Harry Houdini
>?: Able to escape from anything or anywhere. Really good teleportation?
>Ties you with rope or traps you in a straight jacket?

I was looking at the death note jumpchain, and you basically have to go looking for trouble for it to be a difficult jump (like Light Yagami did).
Well, unless you end up starting in the shinigami realm by accident.

You can just get a death note, stay for 10 years doing normal people things and leave.

>>55315361
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Grimaldi

What if this guy had really outlanish comedy powers relating to making a mockery of his enemies or duping his foes into slapstick pranks.

>>55315284
Sure, I'll allow it. They won't be able to cast magic, though, if you use ki to revive them. They'll just get ki and not magic in the process.

>>55315473
Yes?
Though if you play the "I have to entertain my benefactor angle", you might have to get involved.

>>55315441
Caligula...definite Sinner but you're right about needing to think stuff up.

Also could be cool but would need something to stand out.

>>55315452
Hmm, some sort of non aggressive mind control perhaps?

>>55315471
Oh, that's just lovely. Might combine that with some sort of winter/snow/ice power too.

>>55315472
Hahaha. Shelley is great.

Lovecraft too. Poe is good too.

Houdini is present in canon, just in a very minor degree. Still, never thought of authors as a possiblity so that's grand suggestions.

>>55315498
Charles XII of Sweden. An Immunity to bullets, and a natural talent for leadership.

>>55315473
Yeah basically. Although, Kira becomes worldwide famous after he kills L, to the point that he's got cults and shit popping up about him. But if you keep your head down it's basically just a normal person jump with some detective shit going on in the background.

>>55315486
The first major clown? How nightmarish. It's in. We can do high and low and mid power here.

>>55315328
Can Body Granter be used on somebody who already has a human form, but lacks one of the features granted (such as intelligence, leglessness, etc.)?

Why are you limited to taking Pokemon as your first jump?

Is it like a tradition thing?

>>55315437
Newton: Maybe something to do with magic or alchemy? He was noted for his research in it.

>>55315498
>Hmm, some sort of non aggressive mind control perhaps?
You're the one familiar with the setting, I'd leave the particulars of how the power would operate down to your discretion.

>>55315509
Could be.

>>55315523
Newton's already featured in his gravity research angle.

On the other hand a famous Alchemist of some sort could work as well.

>>55315531
Yep! I'm happy for any and all suggestions. Ooh, it's making me wriggle already.

>>55315143
Does picking a power source and a race with powers have any interaction?

>>55315522
What i mean is that you can take other jumps as your first, but pokemon can't be taken if it isn't your starting jump.

>>55315522
Most people do it out of tradition. You can choose a different jump, but a lot of people won't take it after then due to it not really offering much that can't be heavily upgraded/outclassed soon afterwards.

>>55315143
Does the shrinking/growing scale if you're in a bigger/smaller alt-form?

>>55315522
At this point, yeah. The guy who came up with Jumpchain originally envisioned it as the starting point, but I don't think he envisioned other people making jumps either and after other people started making their own it eventually became commonplace to start wherever you like. Up to you whether you decide to do that or not, though if you ask me Pokemon has some very useful pickups for general adventuring.

>>55315441
>>55315498
Maybe Caligula's power could be the power to create grand projects like temples or palaces? One thing Caligula was known for was construction such things, including a ship that was basically a floating palace.

>>55315580
Ohoho, I like it. Instantly summoning up grand constructions.

>>55315132
After taking some time to do my research, I'd like to suggest Salvador Domingo Felipe Jacinto Dalí i Domènech, Marquis of Dalí de Púbol and his power which is something along the lines of "Inspiration Collected From Everything Beautiful in this World"

Salvador Dali would be able to manipulate objects in his surroundings using his paintbrush, assigning new meaning, properties and forms in the process. An elephant's legs stretched numerous times over and made spindly and multijointed in the process, but giving it weightless properties in the process by having such impossible biology clash with the reality around it.

Mmmm, since the idea is still a bit confusing, think about it like this. Salvador Dali's inspiration would be enforced on something by painting over it, he gives meaning to an object (associating it with sexual desire, death, luxury) or warps its form by pulling or warping its body (as if it was paint) or adding onto it.

Reality then would attempt to make sense of his alterations or additions (making the heavy elephant on impossibly long, thin, weak looking legs much lighter to compensate/making an ant associated with death and desire able to produce a toxic aphrodisiac).

The limitations would be more along the lines of not being able to change any one thing to the point of being unrecognizable with his works, and a kind of permanence to the associations made (an egg is used to symbolize love, so other eggs he paints too will symbolize love). The inspiration is natural, the paintings a tribute to the natural beauty already there.

Sorry, I think I went a bit too over the top.

>>55315296
It's slightly less than what Atom can shrink down to, but I may improve it later.

>>55315356
Huh, I thought Amazonian was already in there. I guess I either accidentally deleted it or just forgot to put it in.

I'm still debating about weather or not I should include the Martain and Kryptonian/Argoan options. However you'll be able to reach the same level of power as those options with he right purchases regardless of weather or not they're included.

Maybe. I think the speedforce was only mentioned once when Flash almost got sucked into it, so no idea how you'd interact with it.

>>55315547
Yes, maybe. Haven't gotten to that part yet. But you will be able to become a cyborg demon or a magic using gorilla.

>>55315564
Haven't thought of that yet.

>>55315142
John Lennon: "Reality Marble" that massively heals everyone in its area of effect.

Any time limits? Can you go all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia and up to modernity?

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>>55315580
>>55315592
>[Muffled UMU in the distance]

Also I wanted to suggest some sort of floating, supernaturally durable barrel-armor for Diogenes but someone got him first

>>55315143
Looking good man. I Am The Power! seems a bit too limited to be as attractive as the other capstones. More like 200-400 cp with it's current description. Maybe expand it so that power sources, whether they be parasites, xenotech, or cosmic whatever, are under your control, and can't screw you over at all.

Also, the Power Sets seem like they should be cheaper, or maybe grouped into actual sets of power instead of purchasing individual powers. You could have something modeled after Captain Atom for instance.

>>55315598
Hoho, well, I'll see what I can do. I definitely don't want to turn down such work and we've already got some painters in canon.

>>55315538
>On the other hand a famous Alchemist of some sort could work as well.
Might I suggest Khalid Ibn Yazid, an Islamic prince famed for his Alchemy. Although historically contested as to how involved he was in the former, The Liber de compositione alchimiae and the Liber Trium Verborum are both attributed to him. The first book was the first alchemical text translated from Arabic to Latin.

>>55315612
Not too modern. It does need to be the ancestor of someone in the modern day so preferably no later than WW2 or the middle of the 20th century.

>>55315143
So hype!

What you've got looks pretty good.

>>55315631
Cool! I'll try to go figure out some more simple suggestions to try and contrast with that.

>>55315616
Val said no to my idea anyway anon

>>55315634
If he's famed for it, let's get him in there.

>>55315643
Thanks cutie.

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>>55315520
Yep! You can't use it to make someone sentient, though. They have to be sentient already.

whisperwhisperI would suggest picking up Life Granting Magus from Adventure Time to get around thatwhisperwhisper

For Overlord how strong/fast are Birdmen? Every other race has a modifier like x10/x20 yet Birdmen don't.

>>55315653
Nifty, thanks.

>>55315143
>New God less expensive than Argoan or Martian

Gosh. I mean I'm...not complaining, but that seems a little off? I remember Martian Manhunter kept getting sidelined or taken out early, while Supergirl's more of a sidekick than a mainlister despite being roughly as powerful as Clark in thoery. Whereas Darkseid IS generally seen as the bad guy powerful enough to make everyone stop messing around.

>>55315616
Nero: Capable of summoning and controlling fire using a musical instrument.

Yeah, I know the 'Fiddled while Rome burned' story is most likely fictitious, but it seems like a cool power and it's all I can think of for Nero.

>>55315655
I think that's because nobody really knows for sure, the only one seen so far is Ainz's pervy adventuring buddy from the MMO who came up with Albedo and we haven't seem him fight at all.

>>55315687
Controlling fire and causing chaos equal to the volume and skill you play instruments at? Why the hell not eh?

>>55315702
Seems like a good idea to me.

>>55315608
>still debating about weather or not I should include the Martain and Kryptonian/Argoan options

Including them makes sense to me - the jumps there to represent the setting and the league, and all of those things are a fairly big part of the league. Plus they're fairly good story hooks by themselves. What's the argument against including them, in your head?

>>55315687
>is most likely fictitious
It's proven fictitious. Nero wasn't even IN Rome when that happened.

Now if you wanna powers based on what Nero actually did, something with lions. Fucker fed Christians to the Lions, and burned them in their temples.

>>55315716
The answer is clear.

Flaming lions directed by music. I'm kidding, we'll just do fire powers and lion powers.

What early jumps would let you cure basilisk venom from Harry Potter? I want to put it on the goblin sword but I'm not comfortable being unable to cure it in case someone accidentally cuts themself on it.

>>55315727
I don't know, lions made out of fire directed by music sounds pretty cool to me.

>>55315675
New God doesn't instantly put you on the same level as Darkseid, instead it makes you more like Mr. Miracle, Big Bertha, or kalibak.

>>55315711
No real reason other than "This doesn't make any sense." and that's a piss poor argument so I might as well just keep them in.

>>55315592
You could have Columbus as a Sinner and have it so that he has extreme disease spreading skill.

Also I'm not sure if he counts as a Sinner or not, but Akhenaten could have sun-related powers because of his whole "only worship aten" religion he tried to put in Egypt that subsequently pissed off his subjects and led him to get stricken from the king lists.

>>55315738
That could work. Nero did love music and performances.

>>55315740
Oh. Good point, I can't remember Orion doing anything that impressive now that I think about it.

The Omega Equation doesn't come up much in the cartoons at all, does it? What sets Darkseid up above the rest there? Is he just stronger than everyone because reasons?

>>55315738
Haha, true. We'll see.

>>55315744
Colombus is a great one.

Akhenaten....well, that could be cool.

>>55315727
I wanna second >>55315738 even if it's just for the power's super mode, flaming lions directed by music sounds badass. Like if Metallica participated in Fantasia 2000.

So I'm watching a youtube video about how to get into Kamen Rider for a newbie.

It's incredibly depressing. All I can think is how happy I would be to consume Kamen Rider in ANY format other than live action, I would enjoy a fucking screenplay more than live action.

>>55315772
Yeah, that's a cool middle ground. You have both but you can combine them and rock out as your flaming pride of lions attacks the enemy and grows giant at the same time.

Fuck yeah.

>>55315757
Yeah, he's still Darkseid, lord of Apokolips. Which means he's still super strong and tough and he has his omega beams.

Anyone making an Armored Core 4/fA jump? If not, I'm claiming it.

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>>55315142
Oliver Cromwell with the power to ban Christmas

>>55315648
Alfred Hitchcock with "Master of Suspense". Perhaps something like "increases the lethality of any object or weapon he has against someone who hasn't seen it, based on the number of other people who have." The effect would endure for a short time after the big reveal too. Heck, the big reveal might deliver a tremendous shock or something on the prospective victim that leaves them open.

George Washington Carver and "The Many Uses of Peanuts" or something. It would basically allow him to make and turn peanuts into basically any form of product he can think of if possible, from the obvious peanut butter or oils to things as weird as particle board made from compacted shells.

>>55315807
Heh.

>>55315803
I believe someone is making it, yeah. They've posted a WIP a few times I believe.

>>55315808
Haha, I'm definitely avoiding the fear of too many high end stuff with your suggestions. Like em both.

>>55315734
Get a pet phoenix

>>55315132
>>55315142
You know... This is great and all, but if it's that freeform that you're soliciting so many ideas... Why not just do something like NP Creation/the Stand bit at the end of Jorge/etc.?

>>55315836
Can't afford it. Though it did remind me that Disney Princess has a healing tears capstone. Hopefully that'll work.

>>55315843
Two reasons. One, the series isn't nearly as powerful as Jojo. There's very little in Jojo that isn't okay as a Stand and what isn't is fairly obvious.

Two, I just don't want to deal with another Fate. It's hard enough when there are rules and lots of examples but with Reincarnators, there's few real rules or limits on power and some shockingly strong things available. Things like being able to choose any possible outcome of a situation, ensuring you only die/fail if there is literally 0 chance of not dying/not failing or immortality that works by negating any attack against you so long as your stamina holds out.

So rather than that, I thought I'd just collect every idea I could get and make a huge list of OC powers to add on too.

>>55315861
Steal Dumbledore's phoenix when you go take care of that snake.

>>55315831
Happy to hear! I'll just keep dropping suggestions as I think of them.

Babe Ruth with "Calling His Shot" could be cool. He points where he wants to send something, slams his bat into it, and off it goes.

>>55315843
Probably because with Noble Phantasms she's still being asked by people if their new idea would work or is the appropriate tier, and the Stand Guide was written and designed using numerous chapters, multiple parts and decades of observations and Stands and the new Jump she's working on is for a much shorter series that isn't fully translated.

>>55315893
Hehe, nice.

>>55315831
Do you have any memory of when this person last posted their AC4/fA Jump? Looking through the archives, I can find mention of the AC Classic Jump, which covers up to Nexus, but not an AC4 Jump.

>>55315923
A few months back? I do remember it, since we had a discussion on the Kojima technology capstone they had for a scientist origin. Something about how their lower perks felt a bit pointless when their capstone boosted your knowledge more then any of the lower perks did.

>>55315882
Ah, k.

>>55315132
How about HP Lovecraft and his memetic viral writings.

Don't believe it fits? How many times have you heard about the Necronomicon from sources that had nothing to do with the Mythos?

>>55315142
>Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Can enforce group contracts that punish the transgressors and protect those that respect them, minor powers over nature and against technology and non-elected rulers.

>Saint Brigid - Can replace but also to some extent copy for her own cause's benefits the spiritual and magical properties of a place. Also some measure of resistance against fire and anything unholy.

>Shaka Zulu - Can negate the effectiveness of long-range weapons in favor of melee combat. Also has strong training and ruling abilities.

>Virgil - Powers of divine inspiration, teaching, and guidance, in particular when it comes to any sort of travel.

>>55315969
Haha, yeah, Lovecraft and various madness stuff are in.

>>55315972
Oh, you're doing fantastic at this anon. All four are great.

>>55315142
St. Patrick- Can claim land and force others to leave it.(Confirmed to exist, but evidence shows the 'snakes' he removed were actually Pagans)

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What are some perks that change the Jumper's personality?

>>55315986
It's got definite potential for coolness.

>>55315143
A perk approximating Green Arrow's absurd accuracy wouldn't be out of place.

Actually, the whole jump could stand to lean more in the direction of badass skills and absurd mundane competency. There are a lot of individuals without powers who are still relevant, or people with powers whose mundane skills make them dangerous in more than one dimension. Putting in optikns that makes you an incredible fighter/masterful assassin/genius scientist/elaborate schemer/etc. would be nice, and would add a bit of variety beyond the different powers.

>>55315132
Will there be anything to jump-start a reincarnation cycle in future worlds (without talents)?

>>55315981
Zhuge Liang - An actual master strategist who in legend was pretty much a Xanatos Gambit level mastermind.

What are some abilities or settings that will screw with the rules or mechanics of (other) jumpchains?

Here is some stuff of the top of my head, and not really exhaustive.

Some games have a sort of recall ability, which teleports all your allies to you. This bypasses the normal way companions travel.

Settings that screw with the mechanics of jumping:
Exalted, D&D, Mage: the ascension/awakening (IIRC).

If I were to go to Merlin, would it be worthwhile to get both of the perks (Child of Magic and Magic) to become Merlin's equal? Or would it just be better to go to a DnD setting and become a wizard, Dota and become invoker, Xiaolin and get Heylin magic etc? Merlin's magic sounds good but it feels like I'm spending a lot of points on perks that are probably replicated elsewhere. Is there some crazy shit that I'm missing that he does better?

>>55316022
>Exalted, D&D, Mage: the ascension/awakening
Huh? Most of those just fiat your shit to work.

>>55316016
Yes, there's a way to get Branches of Rinne that work in other worlds and will be able to let eligible people in other jumps become Reincarnators.

>>55316018
Hmm. May need something more on top, since just strategic skill is often a side benefit to powers here. Not too well versed on chinese stuff though, but I'm sure I can find something.

>>55315902
P. T. Barnum with "Grandest Spectacles." The ability would be something along the lines of spinning extremely convincing lies. The more bold and heart pumping they are, the more tempting they will be to believe. The more lies he can get someone to believe, the more he wraps them around his finger until they're hanging onto every word. If his lies are exposed it all goes up in smoke though.

Jim Bowie I don't have a power name for. I did have this idea of him always being able to have a Bowie Knife on hand and becoming more dangerous the greater the odds stacked against him were. Sick in bed, army knocking at his door, he'd only die after exhausting all his options killing a few dozen soldiers with his knife and their own guns before finally succumbing to a deadly case of being turned into swiss cheese.

>>55316042
Queen Mary the Bloody- Can summon followers to help her burn heathens.

>>55316022
At this point we're dealing with fanwank territory. If you think that some piece of metaphysics is breaking your chain, the it's on you to decide the rules to give an answer for it. Either set things up to fix the issue, or use the opportunity to do something interesting. There's not really a comprehensive guide here (and there can't ever be one, frankly).

>>55316081
Ohoho, both good.

>>55316083
Hm. Might need a bit more there.

>>55316042
>May need something more on top
Some of the things attributed to him involved foresight or "sorcery." On the level of the wind shifting at just the right time to cause the minor distracting fire to become a genuine inferno at the supply line, causing chaos in the enemy ranks just before the battle is joined.

His legend is full of taking advantage of apparently random meteorological phenomena in advance of them occurring.

>>55315991
You don't need perks for that.
Just decide to be different.
Any human can do it.

>>55316121
Would that it were so, anon.

>>55316114
Hoho, that's perfect then!

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>>55315142
>>55315132
So, some basic ideas, that I could elaborate if you find interesting, maybe?

>Cao Cao (Sinner)
Leadership type. Basic intelligence boost and commanding skills. As for special skills, one could be gaining the loyalty of those who you defeat and spare their lives (Cao Cao did this with a lot of his enemies, and most of his followers once worked against him).

>Guan Yu (Great)
Summon Red Hare and Guandao, so just another superhuman fighter, with the bonus of having a horse that can move through any terrain really fucking fast.

>Sima Yi (Sinner)
Intelligence boost and the ability to infiltrate in any organization to take control over it, seeing how he took over Wei.

>Zhuge Liang (Not so Great)
Allows one to have a fanfic written about them where they always win.

>Hermann Goering (Sinner)
Ability to summon and micromanage four Luftwaffe planes: a reconnaissance light plane, two fighters and a bomber. Maybe he can see through the scout only and has not too large range (100 or 200 meters). Planes might be really small (like toys) but keep their full offensive potential.

>Hernan Cortes (Sinner)
Warrior type. He was using fireweapons against people who didn't still have gunpowder, so that's a thing. Also, probably a diese spreading power (something akin to Pot Pot's corruption, but slower)

>George Patton (Great)
Tank summoning due to his command of the first tank units in WW1?

>El Cid
He was the Reconquista poster-boy along with Pelayo, so someone 'holy' powers might be in order. One of his tales had him owning a Lion.

>>55315882
Does that means that I can't go and force Blood Angels to slip their throats until I get a Hawkboy reincarnation?

Also, just read the raws I think that even with the dialogue the death of the King will still be really disappointing.

>>55316198
>El Cid
>He was the Reconquista poster-boy along with Pelayo, so someone 'holy' powers might be in order. One of his tales had him owning a Lion.
Don't forget an illusion that he's still alive and ready to fight even after he's been defeated/killed.

>>55316198
>Allows one to have a fanfic written about them where they always win.
The real Zhuge Liang is regarded as a strategist on the same level as Sun Tzu and Sun Bin.

The only reason you don't hear more outside of legends though is because unlike the latter two, Zhuge Liang doesn't have writings attributed to him. (The Art of War and Military Methods, repectively, for Sun Tzu and Sun Bin.)

>>55316230
That can be attributed to most people in the Reconquista. Most kings had at least one of those episodes, including Pelayo.

Also, how would that work as a power?

>>55315142
Alfred Nobel, awards and Dynamite

>>55316198
>Zhuge
snrk.

Otherwise I'm liking most of these. The former half work as is and the latter are great starting points. Thanks anon.

>>55316221
I don't get it.

Mmm, possibly. Wish we at least got the Musashi evolution scene in english, that's probably the only clearly relevant one for the jump. Aside from all the new powers of course.

>>55316230
Also good.

>>55316250
Constantly appearing to be in your strongest state?

>>55316093
Buster Keaton with "Like A Cat" perhaps. The ability to take great blunt force trauma from impacts or falls by ragdolling and escape perfectly unscached. Would also include a lot of grace and agility. His perfect deadpan needs to be included too, but I think something like that would count as one of the side benefits for a Reincarnator, right?

Reinhard Heydrich "The Man with the Iron Heart." Sociopathic levels of ignoring emotions or morality as needed, steel will that won't allow anything to get in the way of his goal, metallic body that can endure explosions at point blank range. (Basically a Terminator)

>>55315142
I have no idea if this is right, but how about Aleister Crowley? He was most famous for the "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" thing, so maybe he erases inhibitions, contracts or links? But I dunno whether he qualifies as a 'hero' or 'great'.

>>55316261
Yeah, a lot of quirks or personality things are just on the side.

These are both great. Reinhard being a terminator is fantastic.

>>55316265
Haha, well, you don't need to be Great or a Sinner really. You can just be a notable historical figure. A soldier like Hans Ruder Lugel works just as well as Hitler himself.

>>55316265
Also I love your version of Crowley, so yes please.

>>55316250
>That can be attributed to most people in the Reconquista. Most kings had at least one of those episodes, including Pelayo.
Ah, I didn't know that, though El Cid is still one of the most famous figure of the Reconquista.

>Also, how would that work as a power?
I was thinking a "last stand" kind of deal where he can keep the enemy busy and let his allies act without being noticed, until the illusion dissipates and he's just not there anymore. If this is a bit weak or too situational, maybe the illusion itself can do the fighting while he's healing.

>>55316265
Actually, Crowley was most noted for joining groups, learning their secrets, making those secrets well known outside it's circles... And then somehow managing to get another group to induct him. Time after time.

Seriously, it's absurd how nobody ever thought it would happen to their group with him.

>>55316297
Making people feel special and not like these idiots over there is an important part of a con.

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>>55316033

>>55316311
Alas, there will never be a Man Comics jump.

>>55316034

They each screw with the rules of the jumps a bit. If this is bad or good is really up to you (jump chaisn aren't really meant to be balanced).

Normally, I think there are a few assumptions jump chains make:
You don't have a way to travel out of there, you can't bring stuff or people along willy nilly, and you get a new age and history.
Sometimes you loose your old powers and memories.

Each of them has some way to interfere with that.

>>55316330
Continued:

D&D has various ways to travel universes (although some require the astral plane, which doesn't exist everywhere).

There are spells that would allow you to shift back to normal, from a different age.

There is also stuff like contingency, you can use one to counteract amnesia or power loss. It depends.

There are also stuff like Bags of holding and portable holes. Some of themm can be put inside the other (this is sometimes a terrible idea though), and you can carry a lot of stuff.

The specifics depend upon your version of D&D.

>>55316245
That's also because outside the Three Kingdoms, we don't hear anything great about him. The only other source that we have about him that is not too distant in time is written by a compatriot based on his records personal records. His most relevant attributed inventions had earlier than him archaeological evidence. He really didn't accomplished anything militarily, nor politically.

Like the rest of Shu, his legend was really over-inflated as time went on. It's not that he was horrible, it's just that he wasn't 'the greatest mind ever'.


>>55316292
As a Spaniard myself, you heard the same thing about every king in every town that you visit.

>>55316283
Philip II of Macedon had the 'Companions', a cavalry unit that was first used in the ancient world to out-flank enemies and crush them using a wedge formation. So, a speed boost and a charge related power? Maybe give him a horse?

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>>55316326
It's sad the kind of batshit insanity we're missing out on as jumpers. Imagine, somewhere out there in the multiverse, Kay McKay is a real person.

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>>55316363
Outside The Romance of the Three Kingdoms*

>>55316363
Ho, that could be cool. Might be too similar to Charlemagne though so we'll see

>>55316254
>I don't get it.
I was talking on using the Branch of Rinne on other settings to have them gain powers from historical figures of their past.

>>55316363
Personally, I think his legend snowballed from a coincidental shifting of the weather that changed an otherwise average strategy into an absurd victory. And then the story grew with each retelling, changing from pure chance to strategic certainty. Other victories retold gaining elements of the first, and things he had nothing to do with being attributed to him as well.

But that's just how legends work.

>>55316360

continued:

Due to the how "magick" works in MTA, you pull of stuff like what I mentioned about D&D.
Like maybe use correspondence to teleport your friends in.
It depends upon the consensus of the setting you end up in,
Im not really that familiar with mage though.

>>55316388
Mmm, he had also his heavy infantry distract the enemy while he did this. Maybe had him have two bodies, one is a dummy one that represent the heavy Macedonian infantry while the real one (since Philip himself lead those) is the calvary that attacks from behind?

>>55316392
Oooh. Haha. No, you'll be able to do that. Just buy the right item for it.

>>55316271
Glad to hear! I'll keep trying as long as I can then.

Elvis Presley "King of Rock n' Roll". I haven't been able to think of a single coherent power yet. Some of the different ideas I've had so far though were building up energy through dance and manifesting it with vocalizations based on his earlier stuff, or a different play on a vocal based power allowing him to speak directly to the heart with smooth, gentle tones that caress and soothe one into passivity. No real idea what direction to go in.

Macho Man Randy Savage "Cream of the Crop". A blend of power, speed, agility, absurd grappling abilities and the ability to hype himself up to be more than he is. The more people believe in him, whether it comes in fear or hope, the stronger he gets. Ooooh yeah.

>>55316402
That's definitely a lot cooler.

>>55316022
You can only have 8 companions active, unless you house-rule otherwise or have a perk that explicitly allows you to do something else.

And I think that should be all I need for now. Easily a few dozen, plus the 30 I had at the start. A nice healthy amount. Thanks everyone for all your offerings.

>>55316412
Pft. I think Elvis is probably as far as I can go there. Cool as the Macho Man is, he prooobably doesn't fit.

So where do I actually get a star destroyer? as far as I can tell the sw jump has no rules for ships longer than like 150 meters.

>>55316426
You need a Freddie Mercury in there. With music that can inflame the passions of anyone that can so much as catch a hint of the song. Sing a few bars to incite a riot, entrance the masses, or ignite an orgy.

>>55316426
Good luck with your work.

>>55316438
You steal one, because otherwise I don't think that any Star Wars jump offers one of those.

>>55316426
I figured as much~

>>55316360
>>55316395
Most dimensional travel abilities in the Chain prevent you from going from Jumps to Jumps. Think of it as if the barrier between each Jump was unbreakable pre-Spark, or if each in-Jump parallel universe was a box, put into a bigger box that is the Jump, put into the biggest box that is the Omniverse or whatever and contains every Jumps.

Has anyone taken the Light of Terra jumps while breaking the Deadlight?

I don't want to go a non-gauntlet gauntlet, and the final boss doesn't seem that strong, but I heard that these jumps were really railoaded to only go through one path or die.

Also, that whole note about 'can't do shit about the Chaos Gods' is really infuriating.

>>55316465
>but I heard that these jumps were really railoaded to only go through one path or die
Jumps made by Babylon? Yeah, they're trap Jumps.

>>55316460

In D&D 3.5 the Wish spell explicitly allowed you to teleport yourself even under those sorts of conditions.

It was one of the more balanced uses of wish.

>>55316465
>Has anyone taken the Light of Terra jumps while breaking the Deadlight?
Back when LoT was talked about a lot, I remember several taking the Broken Deadlight path.

>but I heard that these jumps were really railoaded to only go through one path or die.
It was discovered that the Maker kinda wanted it like that as he didn't like how powerful Jumpers were. But these are not rules that are being enforced. People will constantly call them Trap Jumps, but Babylon cannot enforce any rules on you even if he was still here. So if you think you found a way to get through it, you can treat most of the "it is super dangerous to you" text as just fluff.

>>55316465
Babylon was an autist who hated people having badwrongfun. Just go through the jump as you normally would and ignore anything that reeks of "how dare you try and be powerful and effective."

>>55315991
Motivated from A Certain Scientific Railgun.

>>55316330
>>55316360
>>55316395

Continued:

You can't lose an exaltation unwillingly, unless you die. You can forget how to do stuff, amusingly.

Shaping defences screw with the age reset thing, and body changing. Amusingly, the lunar shaping defence wouldn't allow them to be affected by that stuff, even if they wanted to be (I want to be young again).

Exalted doesn't have much easy dimensional travel. There is one charm called "Hell-Walker Technique" that allows you to travel to Malfeas over the course of 5 days. You can travel out of malfeas with it to a certain type of magical structure.

There are a bunch of Charms that allow you to store a weapon in "hammerspace" There is also the "Cache Egg", a type of artifact which allows you to store stuff elsewhere. The size varies, from 1 cube foot to 10 cubic yards.

Then there is the chancel. It's basically a portal made from a way grace. IIRC a way grace is an extension of some part of your self, probably the ability to navigate (you aren't born with one). The portal leads to rather massive area. How big exactly is unclear due to the chaotic nature of the place, but IIRC the stronger Chancels lead to places hundreds (possibly thousands) of miles wide.
The portal itself is really easy to transport, and it might be a part of you.


>>55316460

I think some jumps I saw assumed stuff like that, I don't think all of them did.
I guess it depends on the writer.

>>55316570

Yeah, This stuff is fundamentally a power fantasy, you should be having fun or you are doing it wrong.

>>55316465
See: >>55316532, and >>55316532
Thread has flipped back and forth a couple times over the years over which is the "correct" path, and whether or not they're traps, but you can basically do whatever.

Babs had this idea in his head that he only wanted people to do things a certain way, and he got pretty pissy when that didn't happen. It's also why his jumps tend to just outright tell you all the things you do and how you feel about them. But it's your fucking story, so tell it however you want.

>>55316486
Not him but the point anon is making that for jumpchain purposes multiverses from different IPs are considered inaccessible as a narrative device.

So maybe 3.5's Wish can let you go from the DC multiverse to the Marvel multiverse because they've had crossover events, but not to Symphogear's world.

>>55316713
I would say that even calling it a power fantasy is overly specific. Jumpchain is (usually self inert) crossover fanfiction prompt. Almost everything else is variable depending on the jumper.

Babylon's problem was just that he tried to inflict his personal perception of what jumpchain was "supposed to be" on others through the design of some of his jumps, most famously LoT. Or perhaps even more specifically, the problem was that he was apparently motivated out of spite, and not out of a desire to create something fun.

>>55316759
>Implying that there is that many people that actually write something using Jumpchain

>>55316949
>Implying even a passing familiarity with how people think.

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Have you ever stolen other people's waifus?

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>>55317063

Does it count as NTR if they used to treat their waifu horribly so you get her to leave them for you?

>>55317155
No.

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>>55317155
But anon, everyone can be seen as treating their waifus horrible when compared to the Jumper.

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>>55317063
No.
Stealing implies that I didn't fairly purchase them.

>>55317242
Didn't we say that Elf weren't people and thus not waifuable?

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>>55317220
>But anon, everyone can be seen as treating their waifus horrible when compared to the Jumper.

I don't use flimsy excuses like that, That's like saying because a family is poor but happy and although the husband tries his hardest he should get ntr'd because he isn't rich

>>55317266
Must have missed that memo.

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>>55315104
Nah, that always seems like a waste of a minion. But I do occasionally utilize a self-destruct mechanism to prevent people from stealing my robot designs. It engulfs the target in blue fire to fry electronics and render it into slag metal.
It's not really what I'd call an attack, though. But it looks pretty!

>>55317063
Yeah. I took Rinea from Berkut in Fire Emblem: Shadows of Valentia. Made a big show about it, too, y'know? Evil laugh, flowing cloak, locked her up in the tallest tower guarded by monsters, the whole bit.
He was so fucking pissed about it, too. He got big armies to come after me -- and of course that didn't end well for them. I mean, I'm sure on paper it looked like he was doing really good, but MY minions are replaceable. I don't give a damn how many golems you bust through, I'll just make more.

Apparently he ended up becoming disgraced because Rigel was losing so many troops under his command, and I just kept getting away and then popping up somewhere else just as strong as fucking ever.
Kinda tarnishes your reputation.
He seemed like he was really losing it by the end, there.

As for Rinea, I mostly just built gilded cages for her, brought her books, you know. Tried to make her comfortable. But we didn't really interact much beyond that.
The Waddle Dees sure liked her, though.

>>55317303
What happened to her at the end of the jump?

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>>55317063
Define "stolen", do you mean while they were in a relationship with another or before that?
> Saeko
A more refined bloodlust and complete acceptance of her true self gave me an in. Getting temporarily separated from the others only helped.

> Rin
Okay, this one I'll admit to slowly getting her attention, partly thanks to her summoning me early so I can work my magic as it were. I also manipulated Shirou, on the down low, in to hooking up with Sakura while I tried to sort out as much of his distortion as possible. Saving her life repeatedly in the Grail Wars Zelretch sent us to also helped.

> Io
...ah fuck, yeah, this one too. Acting as a lost tourist and slowly getting Io to think of me.

I have become that I despise.

>>55317279
That's a really poor comparison. Jumper can not only be rich, but also much more emphatic, have all the free time of the world, offer much more things that many other can.

Not everyone is equal. There are people that are simply better than others. Thinking otherwise is just deluding yourself.

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>>55317337
Hm. I don't really have anything against Rinea, and she seems like a really nice person, and I mostly just did it because I took that one drawback and wanted to fuck with Berkut cuz he's a dickhole. So...
Let's say that at the end I set up a nice little place for her in the heart of Zofia where she could live. That sounds like a nice ending. With a pretty garden and nice neighbors and a bigass supergolem to protect her, because why the fuck not, I can make all that happen.

Rigel's probably gotten its ass kicked nine ways from Sunday by that point, leaving only Berkut to be a snarling cock about it.
Rinea can take him back if she wants -- though he's probably changed in the last decade, but people in stories are notoriously bullheaded about that kind of thing, so -- it doesn't matter to me either way.
The important thing is, the Supergolem will smash the fuck out of anyone who tries to mess with her.

Does this seem like a good ending? I think Rinea would be sad if I just murdered him.

>>55317063
Hmm I wonder what the reaction would be when introducing zuko to hotcold boy from My hero academy.

>>55315143
>can talk a confused god into being your friend.

Who is this confused god?

>>55317279
Youre saying I shouldnt be stealing mrs weasely and ntring arthur? Because arthur is an idiot.

>>55317063
I thought I stoled a waifu once when I went after Elsa but then I realized fanon isn't canon so nope. She wasn't gay or dating her sister, so no its just dating. Not waifu stealing.

>>55317538
Probably A.M.A.Z.O. as Dr. Fate and Luthor managed to talk him down from destroying the Universe because he was having an existential crisis.

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>>55317427
>Not everyone is equal. There are people that are simply better than others. Thinking otherwise is just deluding yourself.

Did I ever imply that everyone is equal? All I'm saying is that don't think that being a jumper allows you to ntr anyone you please just because they aren't as good as you.

>>55317549
>You're saying I shouldnt be stealing mrs weasely and ntring arthur? Because arthur is an idiot.

I don't know much about harry potter so I can't really comment on it but if he is stupid like "I'm going to make a pact with a demon for my fist born son because I won't have children anyway lol" then by all means

>>55317794
Arthur Weasely is so stupid he does not know what a spoon or toilet paper are used for.

>>55317867
>Arthur Weasely is so stupid he does not know what a spoon or toilet paper are used for.

Maybe it's because he has sick wizard powers?

>>55318003
I mean possibly, except everyone admits he is a rubbish wizard.

>>55317794
Arthur isn't malicious or a satanist. It's just that the most distinguishing feature of his character is that he is interested mundane technology but doesn't understand it and doesn't think to read a primer or something. Despite this he has a better understanding of it than most pureblood wizards and is probably the best employee in the Misuse of Muggle Artefacts office. (which isn't saying much considering purebloods and ministry officials are generally dumb).

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>>55318042
> doesn't understand it and doesn't think to read a primer or something.
To be fair, for some reason I didn't think to suggest it. My immediate reaction for everything Arthur is just, "How can you not know this?! Did you even look?!"

It occurs to me that you could probably be his best friend in the whole wide world if you just... brought him primers about stuff. Not even interesting stuff, but just random bullshit.
Maybe buy him a VCR (it's the 90s) with a small TV and How-To videos and show him how to work it.
... and, I mean, I'm sure some people would be like, "Why would you want to be friends with him?", and that's probably valid, but I'm the kind of person who likes to collect favors for things that barely inconvenienced me.

Plus, I mean, if nothing else, that's a tight-knit family right there. It would be nice to be able to drop by unannounced some days and still get free food or whatever.
I could really go for homemade pancakes.

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>>55317427
>All I'm saying is that don't think that being a jumper allows you to ntr anyone you please just because they aren't as good as you.

Whatever you say, mongrel

>>55318042
To be honest, even the muggleborn students who live with muggles rapidly lose most of their ability to relate with anything or anyone non-magical. The end result of which is that the magical community barely has any grasp on how anything works - Not helped by the fact that said muggleborn and half-bloods are pulled in at age 11, before most would begin to have a grasp on anything beyond the most basic understanding of science (which is quickly forgotten in the face of MAGIC!)

>>55318179
Thank goodness I changed that shite during my time there.

>>55318198
I didn't have to do much myself, since Doom wouldn't let such a situation stand.

>>55318179
Was cedric diggory a decent guy? From what I got from the movie he wasnt really as vad as most gryffindor scags. He just died quick.

>>55318179
>even the muggleborn students who live with muggles rapidly lose most of their ability to relate with anything or anyone non-magical

Which of course only works because the books take place in the 90's. If you tried that now, people would call foul. I'm not saying every muggleborn's parents are those kind of people who buy smartphones for their pre-teen children, but buying a burner for staying in touch while at school would be reasonable.

>>55318223
Cedric? He was pretty average, from what I remember. Kindof the wizard equivilant of a jock, with a good heart, above average in most fields. There was a reason everyone liked him.
But he also wasn't part of Harry's personal story other than when he started dating Cho (who Harry didn't end up with anyway), so there was almost no focus on him.

... at least, that's what I remember, anyway.

>>55318198
>>55318209
Hey! A topic!

How did the Jumper and/or their Companions unfuck the Harry Potter setting?

>>55318234
>buying a burner for staying in touch while at school would be reasonable.
I don't think it would work at the school. Apparently, because there is so much magic in the air in places like Hogwarts, electronics just fizzle out.

>>55318234
Given the way the finger wigglers react to things, I'd expect them to outlaw communication devices for muggleborn as a matter of course: Statue of Secrecy and all that.

Hell, they might assume such devices were obviously the result of somebody enchanting them, and go on an obliviation spree.

>>55318283
*statute of secrecy
Though a statue of secrecy would be kind of nifty to see.

>>55318264
Right, I'm just saying that kids from (current year) would definitely not forget everything about tech.
>>55318283
That's way too much. They wouldn't assume any tech they don't understand is a breach of the Statute.

>>55313883
Achilles is an arrogant jerkoff but that;s because he's like a 16 year old who is literally a demigod and fucking hates being in the Trojan war.

>>55318283
...I wonder what the wizarding world thought of the Atom Bomb.
IF they even know it exists.

>>55318302
If you tried to explain it to them they would probably laugh at you for thinking muggles could build something so powerful.

>>55318302
Considering how little they know of modern appliances, they probably mistook it for one of Grindelwald/Voldemort's curses.

...well, the Brits anyway. The thought occurs the Japanese wizarding community is probably far more on the ball technologically than the British one.

>>55318318
>>55318313
>>55318302
You know how at one point the statute of secrecy was more for wizarding conveniance? Im pretty sure now they had a collective oh fuck moment when the bombs dropped and
the statute of secrecy got bumped up in the future.

Then you probably have a couple wizards looking at muggle science a lot closer and trying to make their own.

American wizards somehow zeemed more on the ball with muggle science for some reason.

>>55315361
Marquis de Sade? Hes a great hiatorical baddie

>>55318318
Undoubtedly. Japan is way more cramped as a country, and nowadays it's possible to ride the trains from one end to the other in a decent amount of time. They just don't have the ability to sequester themselves in some castle miles away from civilization like you might in the english countryside.
Either those wizards have had to learn to pass as and redirect their muggles extremely effectively, or they're even more ridiculously phobic of the outside world than the rest of Japan.

>>55317794
>implying these shitty implications
>in JumpChain

Know how I know you really don't belong?

>>55318318
I like the idea of the Japanese wizarding community constantly telling the other wizards to pay attention to the muggle world, but everyone keeps brushing them off because of their constant perverted use of magic to turn themselves into little girls and tentacles.

>>55318293
>I wish was home fucking my teenage cousin

>>55318377
I can't get over the fact that the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese Wizards and Witches all go to one school.

Like what the fuck, that's just ASKING for diplomatic incidents.

>>55318249
I can think of a few options

Genetically engineer the House Elf equivalent of space marines.

Take over tech companies and rapidly advance technology.

Mostly leave the setting alone but secretly dose as many people as you can with symbiotes from the Symbiote jump to synergize after you leave.

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>>55318373
>All jumpers rape,steal,kill and ntr everyone and everything

Whatever you say anon

>>55318350
I think the real problem is that the books focus on wizarding Europe. Which has clearly slipped into quasi-medieval stagnation because all the old customs and inefficiencies got carried over because people got used to doing everything by magic. Most of WW2 probably got handwaved away as Grindelwald shit.

The US and Russian wizards probably laughed their asses off at Voldemort's little coup. Say he managed to kill off Harry. They probably didn't intervene because they thought Predator drones and Barret sniper rounds would've caused too many civilian casualties-but the second he tries to conquer anywhere else, he's /done/, with the wizards doing little other than playing spotter.

>>55318371
Japan's a lot more traditional too, so I could see wizards being distant relatives for a lot of business owners and politicians. I wouldn't be surprised if it's an open secret that a lot of shinto shrines are senior wizards playing dressup just to keep an eye of things.

>>55318377
And since veelas and vampires are things-kitsunes probably exist, too.

Heck, all those legends about stuff like Tamamo might've come from japanese wizards having some as familiars.

>>55318439
>I think the real problem is that the books focus on wizarding Europe.
Sadly, Rowling went full retard and went on record saying that the Brit Wizards are the most open and friendly to muggles than the rest of the world.

...the fandom has pretty much agreed to ignore her on this.

>>55318409
Oh god.

The only way that makes sense is the "exams" is actually a front for Mortal Kombat-style death tournament, and their "houses" are just gangs of the same nationalities.

See, that way all the ancient Asian wizarding family grudges can be settled by relatively CIVIL successor magic kungfu gladiator battles. Instead of, say, Asia's magical community being in such a state of magical terrorism that nobody quite understands why those gaijin are so afraid of that funny Voldemort fellow.

>>55318461
Rowling also flipflops on her own canon, so it's safe to ignore anything she says that isn't in a book.

>>55318461
Fuck, technically doesn't the Fantastic Beasts movie sorta contradict her on that front? There was that witch who flirted with Newt's muggle friend, I'm positive the US' magical bureaucrats were using videotapes and printing presses at one point.

And it's really telling that while apparently nobody except Dumbledore dared fight Grindelwald after a while, a bunch of THEIR wizards stalemated him so badly Newt could beat him by throwing a bird at his face.

So I've decided that I'll need two NPCs for Overlord. I'm going with a Slime Arcane Caster / Thief as my spy / head of intelligence. I need a general, what do you recommend? I'm leaning toward a dullahan, but I'm not sold yet.

>>55318476
Ghe school is also on a volcabo island iirc, and all ths wizards ride there on giant seagulls or something.

Plus side though is you can tell if a wizard or witch from there is doing fucked up shit because their robes show it, they change colors.

>>55318439
I would love to see the magic special forces units using scrying to spot for predator missiles.

>>55318476
And now I'm picturing Magical Underworld groups, using religious groups as a front.

Like the Shinto Zaibatsu having a tentative accord with the Zen Branch of the Buddhist Clans and being in active conflict with the Tao Triad.

Or the Orthodox Mob retaliating against the Islam Militants for the latter's push on their territory.

Or the Catholic Mafia only starting to sit down with their Protestant Counterparts to discuss a long term accord.

And so on.


>>55318499
Like this anon stated: >>55318480

>>55318377
I liked the theory someone posted here that said that all Magical Girlfriend anime is actually made by Wizards, and that they're trying to romanticize the idea of mundane/magic relationships to help a push for revealing magic to the world.

Interpretive lore question: which Haruhi character do you see Rin Tohsaka being most likely to have a romantic interest in?

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Also post your Incredible builds!

>>55318690
Frankly, none of them. Most of them are either kids playing pretend, eldritch abominations or both.

As for the one possible candidate-I remember Rin first being into Shirou because of the highjump incident, and Kyon's usually way more low key when being determined. Besides, Haruhi has an...expansive personality. A bit hard to notice other girls when one's already screaming in your face about the ayy lmaos in your backyard.

>>55317549

You shouldn't WANT Molly at all, considering she used a love potion to bag Arthur in the first place.

>>55318476
FATALITY!
SHANG TSUNG, GRADUATES!

>>55318777
If you're going MILF hunting in HP, the only woman worth pursuing is McGonnagall

>>55318690
I think Rin and Koizumi would get along well, although I also think Rin would hate him at first.

>>55318777
Wait then wouldnt all the kids be sociopaths?

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>>55318249
Well I-
>>55318685
> pic related

First thing I need to explain, I just came from Lyrical Nanoha when I got dropped into Harry Potter and I found a letter waiting for me an orphanage.

I then made headlines in Hogwarts as being a Slytherin who made friends with the rest of the school, including (and especially) one Hermione Granger. Then I continued by hosting study sessions for mundane subjects for those curious or from non-magical families, some teachers were also curious and decided to see what these sessions were all about. Then one day in a session like any other, we all "discovered" a way to mix technology and magic.

The fallout from that was fun, particularly since Professors Flitwick and McGonagal were there at the time. We did manage to (beg) Professor Dumbledore to keep things quiet until we had more protection from the Ministry of Magic.

So after accidentally rewriting several Laws of Magic, the Group decided to, with the blessings of our two patron professors, look into the Magical Laws vs. the Scientific Laws, and record everything we found.

The Group went on to graduate from Hogwarts, luckily we all managed to survive the bullshit that happened since that first accidental discovery in First Year. I then went on to become Minister of Magic while everyone else found jobs in key magical and non-magical positions and together, we worked to slowly introduce magic into the mundane world and vice versa. I managed to deflect a lot of attention from the ICW to said members of my little conspiracy, until it was quite simply too much trouble to keep the magical world a secret.

At which point I had a chat with the Prime Minister and gave him the files to EVERYTHING the Ministry of Magic had been up to. Sure I took the brunt of the following inquest in British Courts and later the International Court, but it was done.

The World regained the Magic it once lost.

>>55318967
>Soulless gingers
>sociopaths

I see no difference. Do you?

On the subject of Harry Potter:

>Be Muggle parent, married to another Muggle
>Have no idea magic exists
>One day a strangely dressed person with magic powers tells you that your child also has magic powers
>They want to take them away to a school that you've never heard of
>They want to teach your child nothing but magic
>They want to pull your child into a world that you can never be a part of
I'm not British, so they may have different views on boarding schools than I do, but this still seems kind of messed up.

I really wish we saw more happy Muggle families dealing with this stuff, Harry isn't a good representation because he wanted out of his mundane life.

>>55318967
Love potions wear off eventually, and they have a lot of kids. Presumably there must be something there. Maybe Arthur is just really cool about being drugged into sex. Wizarding society isn't really well adjusted about a lot of things.

Besides, Percy WAS kindof a dick.

>>55318992
You can treat sociopathy with medication and professional help.

>>55318992
>want to bed ginny and introduce her to the world of wonder that is lesbian witch sex
>dont want to ruin her life because companion to junper is a terrible life of uncertainty
>she seems pretty happy with harry

What do jc?

>>55319017
But we're talking Magical Sociopathy caused by magic and love potions.

Can we be sure of that.

>>55319017
It's actually making actions have consequences with a community around them that don't let them get away with shit

as in, talk shit get hit, do shit get milled

>>55319023
Turn Harry into a female.
Problem solved.

>>55318997
True. We never even hear of anybody going "Uh, no. That's not happening."

Really makes you wonder.

>>55319070
Especially with the ubiquity of memory charms and the wizarding view of muggles as being intelligent animals. Harry Potter is a terrible place.

>>55319070
Vernon really fucking tries. By all accounts, they fucking stalk and harass you until you give in.

>>55318997
>>55319070
you're forgetting the worst part of this.
The parents not only "happily agree" to this but they then have to pay for it all.
Can you imagine how fudged the average muggle-born parents' tax report must be?

>>55319100
You know that shit ain't cheap. I wonder how many families go bankrupt paying for mandatory wizarding school?

>>55319100
>they then have to pay for it all
I honestly do not remember that part, but I wouldn't doubt it.

>>55319023
>get to travel the multiverse and have adventures your peers can only dream of
>get god-like powers, otherworldly knowledge and powerful magic items
>time is stopped while you're away
>you can generally opt out once every 10 years if you don't want to continue
>you get free resurrections, your jumper can probably cure anything short of death or if he can't he (or you) will be able to shortly
>worst thing that can happen to you is some temporary pain

A terrible life of uncertainty indeed.

Not to mention that it should be her choice, shouldn't it?
Don't mindrape her into agreeing or not, just lay out the option and let her decide.

What's the best Technopathy Perk we have?

>>55319147
They have to pay for those ever so convenient school supplies.
Without being able to go there themselves, because Muggle.
In a place with a gold-standard currency.

>>55319156
This. As long as your jumper isn't a complete dick, Companion life is pretty sweet.

>hurr durr awl jumpahs r evul hurr
No

>>55319170
Probably Omega Technopathy from X-Men Movies.
Glitch (+Genius Loci) from Generic Creepypasta is also pretty powerful.

>>55319176
>In a place with a gold-standard currency.
Libertarians are wizards?

>>55319200
I figure a complete dick jumper wouldn't worry about ruining her life. Or consent in general.
He'd just use social perks or straight mindrape to get her to agree and make her do what he wants.

So if a jumper shows up in your life and offers you the choice to become a companion chances are it's going to be a pretty cushy gig.

>>55319170
Omega-level Technopathy from X-Men Movies?

It gives you absolute awareness and control of all technology within a 10 mile radius and it works through connected networks (including the Internet) with enough control that even conventional AI aren't able to resist you. With it you could potentially be aware of and control everything that's connected to the Internet in any way.

>>55318997
It might be messed up and some parents wouldn't want it but it's necessary. Wizards and witches who aren't taught to control their powers are dangerous and occasionally even turn into obscurials and get killed by it.

>>55319293
>it's necessary
Mm. And why is it necessary again?

Is it because wizards don't want anything to do with Muggles, because of magical racism and because they don't want to be bothered with constant requests to use their powers to fix their trivial problems like cancer, world hunger, and disaster relief? So instead they kidnap their children, brainwash the parents into believing it was totally legit while forcing them to pay for it, and everybody goes on their merry way as if nothing's wrong.

Yeah, it's real necessary.

>>55319293
>But I don't want my child to be learning any of this magic stuff
>Sir, I hear what you're saying but if your child doesn't learn to control their magic then there's a very high chance that they'll turn into a monster that will kill you, and everyone you know and love
>Fine, if it has to be done, then I'll agree to it
>Great, here's the bill and a guide to the nearest bank that will exchange your filthy muggle currency into something that your child can use to pay for everything
>But looking at these prices, I can't afford all this
>Don't care. If you don't want your child to kill everyone then it's in your best interest to find some way to make ends meet.
>b-but...
>*apparates out of there*

>>55319047
>Turn Harry into a female.
Not this again! Seems like we have this discussion every week now.

>>55319391
Cherry will not be denied.

>>55319293
>obscurials
Wait, I thought that only happened if they had enormous emotional issues. Does that happen if they don't get magic schooling?

>>55319389
Charles Xavier does the same thing, but at least he teaches them shit other than Powers 101 and he doesn't charge the families.

>>55319428
No, that's correct. It happens when kids are taught to hate and repress their magical powers, which causes them to manifest in dangerous and self-destructive ways.

>>55319428
It only happens if they repress their powers or have some severe emotional issues. It's really not that common.

>>55319428
Teenage angst is a very powerful thing, anon.
One moment your magical child is in their room moping about how their life is meaningless and they hate you, the next moment they're a literal monster.

>>55319023
>What do jc?
Don't go for the worst girl in the franchise, perhaps?

>>55319269
Nah, mind-raping doesn't work for companioning, anon.

The evil Jumper could perfectly say the same words that >>55319156 says. Except they don't really need to leave anything to chance. They can have the perfect voice, the perfect looks and the perfect attitude to make you prone to listen to them and agree with their reasoning. They can arrange fate to meet you at your lowest and deeply burn themselves into your psyche as someone to be trusted. They can make things so when they ask the question, there is no real choice for you to but to say yes.

You wouldn't really know if who is offering that is a friendly person or just a wicked asshole who is far too intelligent.

>>55319435
I'm pretty sure separating mutant kids from the rest of the world is the exact opposite of Charles' goal.

>>55319452
Dumbledore's sister may or may not have been one, given her situation.
It's not clear, but the circumstantial evidence exists.

On the subject of GOOD teachers, a reminder that Goku and Krillin came to Roshi and asked him to teach them how to punch people better, and he made sure that their training included him sitting them down for a few hours every day and teaching them stuff like math and reading.

>>55319470
There are not titty monsters in HP, ergo there are no best girls.

>>55319486
Nuh uh! Mai waifu is best girl!

>>55319486
'cept for Tonks.

What? You seriously think she didn't experiment at least a few times?

>>55319435
Charles also teaches kids who are legitimately dangerous if you left them alone and does so to try and help them understand their nature and to use their abilities to help mankind. An unregistered, unwatched mutant could cause unimaginable devastation if left to their own devices. All it takes is for one high school student with mind control powers to decide that he wants to rule the world to spark World War III. On the other hand an untrained wizard isn't capable of doing anything without a wand and training. Accidental magic explicitly tapers off once they hit adulthood.

>>55319478
Yet, that's what he does as a matter of practice.

>>55319481
Yeah, Roshi was pretty good, as far as teachers go. It took him a while to decide they where worth the trouble, but after that, he committed.

Too bad it was all wasted on Goku.

>>55319475
Give me 10 years and a ton of Charisma perks, and I can convince anyone into willingly becoming a companion.
Even if they're absolute enemies in the beginning.

If I have access to mindrape type abilities, I can cut that down to 2 years or less, and it will still be of their own free will.

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>>55319481
Roshi is a total bro.

>>55319486
Swelling Solution.

>>55319486
With Potions any Girl can become Best Girl if that's your only criteria. But even with huge knockers like the world has never seen, Ginny would still be Worst Girl!

>>55319509
Her actress ruined the character for me.

>>55319502
If it's Genny, then you're objectively wrong.

>>55319481
Roshi is a good man.
...A very perverted man, but a good man none the less.

>>55319517
It wasn't wasted. Goku is really good at punching things.

And nothing else.

>>55319374
>Mm. And why is it necessary again?

Did you just not read the second sentence?

>>55319428
It happens when they try to repress their magic which was a lot more of a historical issue than a modern one, it's mentioned in Fantastic Beasts that most people by that point think obscurials don't exist anymore.

This is largely because most muggles don't believe in magic so even muggle-borns justify the weird stuff that happens to them in other ways and part of the reason muggles don't believe in magic anymore is because everyone learns to control their magic at school instead of going around with wacky shit happening left, right and center.

>>55319511
>Charles also teaches kids who are legitimately dangerous and pretty
Let's not forget how he ignores the ugly yet at times potent mutants like the Morlocks when he goes recruiting for his cult... I mean school..

>>55319509
>>55319525
As much as i want to believe, there's no evidence of this.

>>55319374
>Mm. And why is it necessary again?
Because uncontrolled magical powers are incredibly dangerous even if they don't form into obscurials.

>>55319409
I dont think that guy made harry a girl, his jumper was draco malfoys sister. who was getting reamed out by a sapient wand succubus

>>55319389
>But looking at these prices, I can't afford all this

There's a lot about the wizarding world to make fun of without making stuff up. Dumbledore explicitly talks about funds set up for people without the money for school supplies when talking to babbymort.

>>55319529
>Her actress ruined the character for me.
Is there enough of her in the books to ruin?

>>55319553
> Tonks
She's a metamorph and she has completely transformed her own body to keep Harry safe.

> Swelling Solution
> "Second-year Hogwarts students brew Swelling Solution in Potions class. This potion causes things to grow and expand. Its effects can be reversed with a Deflating Draught."

>>55319517
>Too bad it was all wasted on Goku.
To be fair to Roshi he was trying to teach a kid who literally grew up in the woods and probably thought math and reading were things you ate. Goku also at least got to the point he was very very basically literate and knew how to tell boys and girls apart without molesting them.

>>55319592
Don't forget that he had brain damage as well.

>>55319553
Do you really think in a world of actual magic that men wouldn't have invented magic to make their dicks bigger and their women more luscious? What would be the point of magic if you couldn't?!
The evidence is human nature, anon. Man and women alike want and need big boobies! Magic has five limits and boobies aren't one of them.
Serioulsy, you can wrap your mind around a table being turned into a pig, but girls getting a few cups sizes is too unrealistic and you need evidence of someone explcitly doing just that to prove it's possible?

>>55319574
You may be right. Even so, Cherry hungers

>>55319519
You don't even need that many charisma perks. These things can be learned, and charisma can be trained. A 100 jumps Jumper is bound to be one of the most charismatic humans ever. We are talking of a 1000 years person (probably add another 1000 of memories at least), full of experiences.

They will be confident, and even without any look improving perks, they will know how to use what they have best than anyone. People aren't as unique as some want to sell nowadays, and someone who has meet hundreds of thousands, and probably been intimate with hundreds, will probably have a good idea of what makes you work and how to get what they want from you after a few conversations.

>>55319537
I guess the lesson here is to ask him to teach you stuff besides punching. He's got plenty of wisdom and eclectic techniques, I'm sure he'd willing to teach you some of that stuff if you prove you're a good person and won't abandon the fundamentals.

>>55319546
>>55319557
Except that untrained adult wizards aren't innately capable of magic. Accidental magic stops once you hit adulthood and even an average trained wizard is mostly powerless without their wand because natural wandless magic is incredibly rare and still requires training to properly utilize. Just because you were born a wizard doesn't mean you can start popping heads with magic powers out of nowhere.

>>55319638
>Except that untrained adult wizards aren't innately capable of magic.

Nothing in the books at all that indicates this.

>>55319529
What did she do to ruin the character?

>>55319638
>Except that untrained adult wizards aren't innately capable of magic.
Obscurials. Did you even watch Fantastic Beasts?
No training doesn't equal harmless.
The later dependancy on a wand depends on the training.

So, if you went as a Monkey Boy Martial Artist in Dragonball and started on Roshi's Island, could you fluff it so that your ship crashed just off shore and Roshi raised you himself?

>>55319638
>natural wandless magic is incredibly rare
And yet African magicians all can utilize wandless magic like it was no big deal.

>>55319659
He probably read too much fanfiction and got confused. It's a common thing with conversations about HP on the internet.

>>55319653
She wore that horrible thing on her skull, what's it called again, oh right, her *face*. Seriously, while not ugly as such her actress is at best pixish or this side of plain, not how I visualised her at all. Such a let down.

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>>55319663
>African
They've got all the wand they need, anon

>>55319608
That's a bit overplayed by later series. In OG Dragonball Goku was a bright kid who literally had no education. He was able to figure stuff out pretty well but simply didn't care enough about things that weren't fighting to get any formal education.

Z even has him understanding some basics of space like their being no gravity in it.

Super and GT both dumb him way down which is kind of annoying. Goku was hopelessly naive and uneducated not dumb.

>>55319624
Real life 70 year olds aren't that much more charismatic than 20 year olds. Unless you actually put effort into learning how to talk to people, you're going to stagnate and put people off by how alien your perspective on life is.

>>55315142
Archimedes - As the legendary mathematician to famously said "Give me a place to stand, and I could move the world", Archimedes can act as a fulcrum between two objects on opposite sides of himself. Force exerted by one of the objects affects the other as if the two were attached to an indestructible lever with Archimedes as the fulcrum.

>>55319686
What, a random twig. That's basically wandless magic right there.

>>55319686
>implying african wizards have big 'wands'
>perpetuating myths born from porn
Heh

>>55319612
Too bad they cant figure out how to stop aging. You would think they could at least figure something to get rid of the visual effects of aging like rinkles and saggy boobs.

Minerva should still look like a total slut.

>>55319675
>She wore that horrible thing on her skull, what's it called again, oh right, her *face*. Seriously, while not ugly as such her actress is at best pixish or this side of plain, not how I visualised her at all. Such a let down.
...her looks are what spoiled it?! The one thing she could EASILY and actually constantly changes?!

Dude.

>>55319723
...
> Joke
> Atmosphere
> Surface
> Inner Core
> Antipodean Surface
> Atmosphere
> Your Head

>>55319649
Nothing indicates that they can either.

>>55319659
Is Fantastic Beasts even canon?

>>55319684
The same guy who voices Fozzy Bear also voices Miss Piggy, right?

>>55319070
I somehow doubt the Wizards would give you that option.

>>55319688
It's actually pretty annoying to watch Kai on Adult Swim right now, as it plays through the remastered Z saga right next to Super, back to back. The Goku in Z seems way more intelligent and generally on the ball, barring a couple fuckups. And even then, he tends to realize he fucked up pretty damn quick.
Meanwhile, in Super, he's the kind of guy you can't leave alone without a babysitter. Vegeta has the patience of a god damned saint, standing next to him all the time.

>>55319755
I only watched the movies, so she was a super minor character to me. Is she more fleshed out in the books?

>>55319755
>The one thing she could EASILY and actually constantly changes?!
I'm talking about the actress not the character, Dude.

>>55319757
>FB canon?
I would think so, but with Rowling it's dangerous to guess.

>>55319755
>Joke
~sigh~ you're the one who can't recognise a joke anon.

>>55319749
Did you ever watch the original Clash of the titans. Maggie Smith was rockin' in her day.

>>55319799
Somewhat, with her relationship with Remus and Remus being a cockhole. Still very minor though. A complete waste of potential.

>>55319749
A badly made shrinking potion works as an age regressor so juvenants should be plausible for the wizarding world.