Necron thread? Necron thread.

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>>55309944
>those legs
Damn, she thicc as fuck.

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Hell yeah, Necron thrad! Death to the fleshy ones!

What are the chances that Imotekh won't bow to the Silent King when he returns?

oldcrons >>>> newcrons

always

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>>55310363
Hey fuck you! That's my image to post.

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>>55311273
Fuck you, I was here first!

Actually, if you look at the fingers closely, you'll notice they are different edits of the same image, so is technically not the same image

>>55309944
But anon, that's a necrocyborg.

Don't know much necron lore. Are they ancient dead souls in machine bodies or just sentient machines?

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>>55312732

>>55312049
The former mostly. They transferred their minds into metal bodies cause their old ones were all ate up with space cancer. They regretted it pretty much immediately, however, since it made the vast majority of their race into soulless automatons.

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I really want to do something like this.

getting my lil bro a starting set of Necrons for his B-Day next month. what I have set for him to get is a "Start Collecting" box, a box of Immortals, and a box of Lychguards. Right now I'm waiting on the store to get said Lychguards in before I pick them up, along with some model building supplies (the basics such as glue, snips, etc.)

dunno, a heck of a birthday gift?

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I found a thing.

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>>55311952
Get fucked you creaky old piece of scrap metal. I'm older then you are!

I realised that after I posted mine. It pleases me that I wasn't the only person to do this. And to be honest I think the other one looks better then mine. I didn't curve in the finger like he did. Mine's just stuck out at an odd angle.

>>55311056
Well that's just simply not true.

>>55313181

t. never read the oldcron codex

>>55313189
t. should just paint some 'nids up with gunmetal because that's evidently what he wants

>>55313200

Well thanks for outing yourself as having zero knowledge on the subject, I guess.
At least now I can safely ignore you without concern.

>>55313231

No problem, happy to give you an out so don't have to embarrass yourself.

>>55313270

Says the guy showing up to a necron thread and opining on things he's never read.
Really transparent statement btw. :)

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>>55313131
>necrosnek

>>55313189
You mean the codex where the titular race have basically no personality whatsoever and are nothing more than the faceless, nameless minions of the C'tan?

>>55313310

>regurgitating memes instead of reading

>>55313334
So, how were the oldcrons not completely devoid of personality? Cite something from that old codex you're so fond of to indicate that I'm incorrect.

>>55313334
Not an argument.

>>55313290
What happened to ignoring anyone who disagrees with you because you're so clearly right? Shoo shoo, you've got nothing to prove, you're the big winner! :^)

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>mfw nu-crons

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Necron thread!

>>55313354
Read the book, then I'll discuss it.

>>55313355
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>55313575
>Read the book, then I'll discuss it.

I have. Old necrons were nothing more than the soulless minions of the C'tan.

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>>55313439
Remember when necrons were not for sexual?

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>>55313439
>>55313610

>>55313604

And?
I'd also be interested to hear what your definition of personality is, and how other factions in the game have it aside from a few named characters.

>>55313623
>bare feet
I sense the hand of footfaggotry in this

>>55309944
I don't see any Necrons in the thread, though.

>>55313627
Personality. You know, the characteristic patters of thinking, feeling and behaving. The Oldcrons were defined by a lack of personality. They were literally just soulless minions of the C'tan. The only personality in the faction was the C'tan. The Necrons were secondary characters in their own fucking story.

Newcrons, while their fluff is far from perfect, at least have some sort of character. They have goals and purpose beyond being the mindless minions for the C'tan. And if you like the whole "ancient, silent undead destroyers" thing, Newcrons can do that just fine, too (see the Orphean War fluff).

>>55313691

I was going to reply to the stuff about personality, and make a point about how nearly all factions lack that to a large degree, then I realized from the second part of your post you haven't even read the newcron codex.
So kindly fuck off with your bullshit.

>>55309944
>r0b0-tits
whyy

>>55313728
>I realized from the second part of your post you haven't even read the newcron codex

And what makes you think that? The Newcrons are driven by the pursuit of their old glory. They seek to recapture their old territories and return their empire to its former glory (and also possibly get fleshy bodies back). You've also got the various individual necrons and their own personal goals such as Trazyn's collecting, or the internal power struggles among the nobility. Whatever you may think of those goals, it still remains that Newcrons have a sense of will and self-direction that the Oldcrons never did.

>>55313789
Tits make everything better.

>>55313636
why the fuck would robots wear shoes?

>>55313810
To not let the filth of an undeserving world taint their superior robot feet?

>>55313691
oldcrons were essentially robo-nids in terms of their goals

>>55313790

>And what makes you think that?
You're regurgitating the exact same misinformation, almost word for word, that I've seen posted here a hundred times.
If you've ever even laid eyes on either codex, it was exclusively to check the rules.

>>55313847
Hi. I'm new and haven't actually read either codex, only 1d4chan stuff. Could you please spell it out for my undeveloped, mentally retarded brain?

>>55313847
I'm with this guy >>55313865

If you've got such an amazing grasp of the fluff, please feel free to demonstrate it.

Or, you can just admit that you're full of crap and the only support for your non-argument is to ineptly claim that other people don't know what they're talking about.

>>55313728
>>55313847
Make an argument or fuck off, holy shit. Are you baiting? The polite thing to do when you can't argue your point is just to fuck off and stop responding.

>>55313897
>>55313865
>spell out 2 books worth of fluff for me so I don't have to read it
kys

>>55313901
>Make an argument or fuck off
Don't have to since I didn't make the claim.
When you do, I'll respond to it.

>>55313923
You're not responding to who you think you are, chode. I have no stake here other than coming in and seeing what a microdick you're acting like. Regardless, here's your (You) since you're obviously baiting and I'm feeling generous.

>>55313923
Confirmation that this guy is full of crap and/or trolling. We can all move on with our lives now.

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WiP different colored rods

>>55313939

>You're not responding to who you think you are, chode. I have no stake here other than coming in and seeing what a microdick you're acting like. Regardless, here's your (You) since you're obviously baiting and I'm feeling generous.

So you came into a thread and picked a fight with me, even though you had no involvement in the discussion, (which is contradictory?)
And think this means I have to justify myself to you somehow?
Nice touch on the insults btw, really sold me on how little you care.

>>55313623
Is there much fluff regarding female necrons? If so, is there anywhere I can read about it?

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>>55313983
Excellent! I went with different colored rods, too.

>>55314025
shield of baal had one iirc

>>55313983
DELICIOUS GRAPECRONS

>>55314039
That looks great. I also have a squad of blue ones so it changes things up a bit on the board

>>55314000
(You)

>>55314025
The one in the picture is Xun'bakyr, the Mother of Oblivion. She's the Phaerakh of the Maynarkh dynasty, which appeared in Imperial Armor 12. Her dynasty is responsible for the complete destruction of the C'tan known as Llandu'gor, the Flayer, who cursed them with its own hunger for life. It is believed that the first Flayed Ones appeared amongst the ranks of the Maynarkh Dynasty.

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I've got this doc on how to paint necrons.

>>55314111
The ones I used for >>55314039 are the only ones I've really liked. They're from Plastruct; I got some blue rods from Plastruct that were so faint that you couldn't tell they were blue. I looked at eBay for others, but I was worried about the quality of the stuff I saw there-- the preview pics looked like they had a lot of bubbles in them.

>>55314274
How do I find them on their website?

I'd really like it if GW would do some more fluff for some other Dynasties in the new dex. Maybe even a few new special characters that are not from Imotek's.

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How did we go from this.

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>>55314327
To THIS?

>>55314335
I like the middle one's sassy pose.

>>55314346
That's not sassy. Thats sassquatchy.

>>55314335
studio paint scheme. Thats usually the problem with models and it certainly doesn't help here. How the skin is painted makes it look like they're wearing pink robes, not flayed flesh.

>>55314327
>>55314335
>they only flay white people

ANTIFlayers

>>55314294
If you're looking for the Plastruct rods, I'd suggest either eBay or Amazon. Just search for "Plastruct 3/32 rod" and you'll find what you need for the Warriors.

>>55314221
I really wish the Maynarkh would get more love, they have a lot of the menace of the oldcrons while still keeping the personality of the newcrons, plus their feats are pretty crazy.


Shame that GW only makes side-codexes for Imperial or Chaos factions.

>>55314507
The paint job is definitely a problem, but no paintjob in the world is gonna help "bitch, I'm fabulous" in the middle or Mr. Piggy-back.

Currently building a Necron army. I've been having trouble beating a space wolf army because their plasma weapons and Bjorn. Any advice?

>>55314808

Wait for the codex to fix them.
Crons are bad right now.

>>55314808
Without telling us your list, what units you have available to build a list from, and how you are playing your list, we cannot help you.

>>55315297
Well I mean we can suggest units that fare well against Yiff plasma units and Bjorn.

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>>55315336
Then by that effect, Iron Curtain.

2 WS-CCBs (298p), 2 tesla ABs (292p), 2 HR-Stalkers (342), 10-man Tesla Immortal Squad (170p), 10-man Warriors in an arc (290p), 20-man warrior blob (240p), cryptek (104p), 3 fabricator spyders (252p)
That puts you/him at (1988p). You can figure out something with the spare (12p).

>Strats
Front load the CCBs and Stalkers. Keep your ABs and the arc in the mid range. Chain the spyders through them. Cryptek stays with the 20-man and tries to keep up with the arc. Drop your 10-man on an objective. Every turn 12" leadership the Immortals and the 20-man.
You outrange all but the Plasma Cannon and Incinerator (idk what they are running, but I was told go ahead) where you meet those in range. ABs, 20-man, and Immortals are anti-infantry. Spyders heal 1d3 which applies after their natural heal. If they supercharge, you have a 1-in-6 to negate, but that is just a bonus.

Super Secret Tek
Replace an AB and 1 spyder with a Doom Scythe. You gain (+9p), increasing your free points to (21p). Now if they overcharge, they explode on a 1&2 to shoot the DS. DS has a similar damage template to AB, but sucks as of 8e versus other fliers or AA.

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>>55313789

What's the deal with Orikan? Is The Stars Are Right supposed to represent him turning into a c'tan?

>>55318732
>turn into a C'tan
What? No. Have you read any of the codexes? Do you even know what a C'tan is?
He just divines the future through probability and his stats change to reflect that he knows where and when to punch.

>>55319136
I only ask because Orikan Empowered is nearly identical to the statblock of a transcendant C'tan shard, though your explanation makes more sense but is less fun.

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Anyone got anymore Necron art? Looking for anything, in all shapes and sizes

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>>55314666
Maynarkh newcrons best newcrons.

>>55313826
Tyranids do not empire build.

>>55313691
Why do you think personality is needed to like a faction? A cosmic horror faction cannot coexist with personality, because knowledge bombs mystery and thus, the fear factor.

New necrons are simply one more faction, oldcrons were an ancient cosmic horror that was awakening.

Even though you enjoy newcrons more, you cannot say that they are categorically better just because of personaity because most people that like necrons started to like them for their lack thereof.

>>55323037
I wouldn't say that, I can go for either Oldcrons or Newcrons, I just started liking the Necrons because they were hard to kill robot skeletons that shot laser beams like I assume a lot of other people did.

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Don't mind me. I'm just a cute Nurgling spreading some of Nurgles love ^_^!

>>55323189
>Necrons in other culturual styles than Egyptian
Some babylon-crons would be badass.

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>>55323189

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>Titcrons

Nah senpai.

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What's better, ceramicrons or rustcrons?

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>>55317135
So....bouncy.....

>>55314666
>plus their feats are pretty crazy
plus their feets are pretty crazy.

>>55325374
She really makes my metal live, if you know what I mean.

>>55311056
Nah, oldcrons suffered from 'all part of the plan' syndrome waaaay too much

>>55312832
Sounds like a good way to ruin his life. Why not get him a football or some skates or a tennis racket instead?

>>55327470
I kinda loved Oldcrons for how assblasted Chaos (particularly Tzeentch) players got about the C'Tan.

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>>55313789

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I did a couple minis for my brother's necron force. We were pressed for time for a tourney, so I only did the basic 3 colors minimum. He plans on doing the washes and highlighting later. So i will only show off a few of the models i converted for him.

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>>55329946

>>55329946
What's the tail from?

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Refleshed Necrons when?

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>>55330025

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>>55330040

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>>55330058

>>55330010
I made it myself. I took plasticard tubing, cut it into segments, and glued the pieces to a piece of coat hangar that i shaped and stuck into the pelvis of the cryptek (after i removed the legs of course), then I stuck little bits of plasticard to the cylinders to blend it in sort of with the back of the cryptek.

>>55315297
Here's what I currently have:
Overlord
Cryptek
Monolith
1 unit of 20 warriors
1 unit of 6 scarabs
Lychguard
Stalker

I know it's not a very big army but I'm still building it and would like suggestions on future units to deal with Bjorn and Plasma.

>>55330025
>>55330040
>>55330058
>>55330067
Translation? it looks cool

>>55328788
Even Newcrons make my chaos buddy assblasted.
Up until the pylons on Cadia got fucked...

>>55330040
>GLaDOS Lamp
>Asscreed mug
kek

>>55330170
Id definetly suggest another squad of lynch guard with vargard and nemessor combo. For firepower id go with the doomsday ark for anything big with a lot of wounds or your opponents prized squad

>>55309944
>literally who: the faction

>>55331212
thats not eldar harlequins

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>>55313610
>Remember when necrons were not for sexual?
No.

>>55320678
Neither did oldcrons.

>>55330082
Neat. This will be very handy whenever I get around to trying to model my Phaerakh.

>>55331921
Wrong, you idiot, The Oldcrons mission as pointed out in the Oldcron codex is top enslave the galaxy and rebuild the C'tan's Empire of Destruction.

>>55331946
This was never exhibited in-universe and was quickly replaced with a mission statement to snuff out all life. There are no examples of oldcrons reestablishing their empire in any of the fiction.

>>55331995
It was their mention statement in their only codex. You don't get to argue against it. Admit you are wrong and move on.

>This was never exhibited in-universe

Wrong. We see Oldcron reclaiming tomb worlds and building pylons.

> was quickly replaced with a mission statement to snuff out all life.

No, it wasn't. You cunt.

>>55332020
mission statement*

>>55309944
>Zahndrekh does not see reality as it truly is. His mind suffered damage during the Great Sleep and, as a consequence, he is trapped deep in the past, in the Wars of Secession that wracked his corner of the dynasties. In his mind he fights these campaigns still as a creature flesh and blood, crushing rebellious kings and bringing their domains back into the fold.

I can't believe there still isn't a black comedy book about this guy and his bodyguard

>>55332420
There should be more necron POV books in general.

>>55329946
>>55329967
>>55330010
>>55330082
>>55331934
This person lies. These pics were posted over 3 years ago and the tail is from a wraith

>>55334483
I just checked the URL in the watermark and it looks like it was first posted on August 30th of this year my man.

>>55334577
For example, superpunch.blogspot.com reposts old posts and takes posts from other blogs. They, at least, reference the original author.

I am an old-fag and a professional lurker REEEEEEEEEE , this was posted over 3 years ago. I have seen these pics when 6e was new.

Look at his description:
>so I only did the basic 3 colors minimum
These have base, layering, washes, and a seal with basing. Later to quote "He plans on doing the washes and highlighting later" when it already has these features.
The pyramid is airbrushed and, layered, washed and sealed.
>(the tail) I made it myself. I took plasticard tubing...
It's from a canoptek wraith. Plain as day.

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>>55332420
Seriously. I have a friend who plays Necrons and he absolutely loves Zahndrekh.

I actually got to say, I think the Newcron characters we got are all really good, and perhaps the best cast out of any codex. They're all varied, memorable, and have good rules. The only problem is, due to being Necrons, they're not super visually distinctive from one another.

>>55333011
The Fall of Damnos book, the first one to feature Newcrons, has some Necron POV chapters.

>>55334906
>that pic
wow, the new Bionicle lineup looks great.

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>>55334906
>The only problem is, due to being Necrons, they're not super visually distinctive from one another.
I agree, save for Illuminor Szeras. You've gotta love the scuttle-butt.

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>>55334968
Eldar already have that covered fampai.

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>>55335072

>>55335072
>>55335086
Almost makes me want to play knife ears.

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Necrons are the 40k army I stuck with the longest out of any I've played, and honestly, I never want to go back to oldcrons. It really started to wear on me just how boring they were. Yeah, mindless killbots that are just around to harvest everything in the galaxy sound cool at first, but after months and years and seeing all your friends get new and interesting lore and personalities for their army, you start to resent your army of shallow murderbots. The C'tan only existed to feel, the necrons only existed to harvest.

At the very least, you started to understand how your Necron Lord felt. Damned to lead a literally-stupid army of mono-purpose machines so some not!-gods that fucked you over can play Hungry Hungry Hippos with the souls of the dead.

>>55331180
OK thanks! I've also been thinking about picking up some wraiths. Are they any good this edition?

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>>55334827
So I'm not sure whether I should be insulted or flattered. I made this model, but I think I know what you are referencing by 3 years ago. I got the idea to make it after I saw an image on google a wraith tail to a cryptek. I wanted to make something similar because I really liked the idea. My brother didn't have a spare wraith tail though and I wanted a smaller one anyway. So I, as I said, made it myself. You can clearly see this is not a wraith tail.

>These have base, layering, washes, and a seal with basing. Later to quote "He plans on doing the washes and highlighting later" when it already has these features.
>The pyramid is airbrushed and, layered, washed and sealed.
You caught me there. I did layer and wash a couple places, and did bare minimum on basing. I was just providing an excuse because the model isn't painted to my standard due to the time constraint. But on the whole, most of the model isn't layered and highlighted as it should be.

>It's from a canoptek wraith. Plain as day.
Look again.

>>55335930
>I got the idea to make it after I saw an image on google a wraith tail to a cryptek.
Wow that came out weird.

I got the idea to make it after I saw an image of something similar after doing a google image search. I believe it was a wraith tail attached to the cryptek model.

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>>55335930
Also I just took this photo here. So you can see the difference between what I made and the 3 wraith tails that come in the box

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>>55309944

Love the OLD-oldcrons. I bought some off eBay to make a SW:A warband.

Thoughts on the color scheme?

I'm aware its extremely simple.

>>55336151
The barding could be another colour to make it stand out.

>>55336216

Thanks. What do you mean by the 'barding?'

>>55336124
>>55335930
Wow, am I glad I didn't jump on the hate bandwagon and start flinging shit. Good on you anon, it's a cool mini and you should be proud.

>>55336246
I think he meant banding? As in, the trim on the shoulder pads, etc?
Either that, or he's referring to the armour plates as barding, which is a little retarded.

>>55336379
Thanks man, I appreciate that. It would look even better if it was finished painting, but my brother is a lazy painter so I doubt he will ever get it done. I mostly did his army for him this way because he wanted to attend the tournament coming up this weekend, and he built me a fence. So I painted his entire army like this.

>>55314000

>So you came into a thread and picked a fight with me, even though you had no involvement in the discussion, (which is contradictory?)

That's how open discussions work, yeah. Why are you acting surprised? Are you new?

>>55314808
Keep it at 1000 point games to have a fair fight.

>>55330067
Second for Translation.
Pretty good skill with the pen as well, the detail is well above most fan art.
>not that a translation is needed you can really see what is going on with the art.
>Show don't tell put to good effect.

>>55330194
>>55330025
1:Look at the glowing below. Millions of innocent souls, unaware of the coming doom. Our race drowns in civil wars, all for the sake of some shards of old greatness. And now, at the dusk of our era, Triarchy summons the High Lords and my father among them. Why? Is the Silent King going to assemble the dynasties and turn upon the Great Ones?
-I'm neither a politician, nor a philosopher, my lady. I'm a guardsman, whose purpose is to serve you and the High Lord.
-An ordinary guardsman? You are being exceedingly humble, Aurtech. I admit you should have been in command of the Spider guard long ago.
-That is not possible, lady Aeria. As long as the current commander is capable of fighting and protecting the royal family, he can't be replaced according to the Codex.
-Oh yes, the Spider Codex, how could I forget?.. Hersa. Didonne. You can leave now
- As you wish, my lady
-Chief commander Fistach may be good in battle, but he is elderly. And as you know, the elderly are prone to tripping down the stairs and breaking their necks... To have the young and talented take their place
-...

>>55330040
- Are you going to guard me in my sleep tonight?
- Yes, my lady. Tonight Witvach and myself are keeping watch at your door.
- Good. Tell Witvach he is relieved of his duty tonight, so you'll be the only one.
- My lady... no offense, but... last time was a mistake. If your father was to find out...
- I care little about my father's opinion! Even less so about the sycophants from the court. I'm heir to the ruling dynasty of Oruskar. Ishar is gone. My father has no other children to pass the reigns. I can do however I please. And now I want you out of that armor. Out of the shackles of your duty. A man I could love...
- Aurtech...

So what's new for necrons over the past few years?

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>>55335515

Agreed, I played crons 10 years ago, all my Marine,guard,eldar playing friends had characters and culture and multi dimensional personalities.

Oldcrons were great at first, these ancient cosmic horors that wanted to enslave the Galaxy, there was alot of mystery, but after they got established the mystery faded and we were left with ...

Oldcrons would make a great antagonist in a narrative driven sci-fi property, but as a playable wargame faction, they didn't work

>>55330058
- Witvach, I've felt the vibration... What's happened?
- Orks. The've blocked the exits to the surface. The warriors and wraiths tried to interfere, but the savages set off the charges. The passage caved in under hundreds of tons of rock and metal. The crypt spiders can reach the cave-in. It's too narrow for them. Warriors are at work currently, but it will take at least a cycle.
- Other exit nodes are closed by anabiosis protocols. Only our Mistress can lift them, but she's asleep... What's up with the teleportation matrix?
- Isn't ready yet. The scarabs are fixing the circuits and energy nodes
- I suppose, the Halls of Silence are the closest to the surface?
- Yes, commander, sir, that's correct.
- Send some crypt spiders with gauss drills up there. Leave a few guardsmen with the Mistress. and lead everybody else to the Halls of Silence

>>55330067
- Understood. Have you come up with the new plan?
- The orks might've blocked the exits, but we are not going to sit on our hands. We'll blast ourselves a new path...

So that is all, hope it was okay

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>>55337356
It's the same reason we have endless debates on if Chaos "really is all that evil" or Tau v. Imperium. It is in our nature to want something to grab onto. Something we can look at and understand by comparing it to ourselves. That's why humans are always the most popular race in Fantasy, followed by elves who are typically very similar in appearance.

Even if we act like we want strange, unique and original things, the reality is that we want shit that we understand. It's just in our nature.

>>55314097

>That badass as fuck Destroyer design

I really wish this was the design we got. Either that or they doubled down on the obvious references and went full Dalek.

>>55337404
I'd say it was pretty damn cool. I hope there will be more posted and translated in later necron appreciation threads.

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Could a phaeron order his nemesor to undergo modifications akin to destroyers without him suffering from whatever defect afflicts them, or is that too far beyond the pale?

>>55339021
A Phaeron can do whatever he damn well pleases, whatever that may be. However, I think you misunderstood the nature of the Destroyers' affliction; they aren't mad because they mutilate themselves, they mutilate themselves because they're mad.

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>>55339021

This picture made me realize how much lost potential there's in Necrons. They could really go overboard with the ancient insane an weird technology angle, instead they are going for emulating 1:1 Tombkangz but robots

>>55337721
I have to agree, even if I play tyranids because I love everything about their lore. it helps that they're vaguely easier to YOUR DUDES for than the Oldcrons given Tyranids adapt and their leaders have intellect, allowing you to diversify why You're So Hongry.

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>>55339289
It's better than it used to be eat least, pre-newcrons these dudes just looked like Goast Necrons.

>>55339328
I love everything about the Canoptek aesthetic and I wish Necrons had even more constructs to do their bidding.

>>55337404
Very cool

>>55339021
Gods that is cool!

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>>55339328

I dunno mate...nucrons also came out with designs like this, which are even a step down from the original.

A race with million years old reality warping technology and pocket dimensions has nothing better to come up with than little robot pilots on geen not-hoverboards. That's really not the kind of diversity I was looking for.

>>55339021
Is that made with Warmachine parts, or is it just the painting style that's giving me that impression?

>>55339450
To be fair, the Necrons are practically entirely mentally ill. That being said, I agree with you - but I still prefer their new gubbinz to their almost mono-style old ones.

>>55339485
>To be fair, the Necrons are practically entirely mentally ill.

Yes, but in the mad scientist way, not in the retard who laces his shoes wrongly way.
I think we are completely on the same page here: Variety is better than no variety (especially in a wargame) , but by god, the execution could have been so much better.

>>55339597
What are good mental illnesses to play off when writing a necron character?

>>55339785
Make him an Alex Jones type and have him rant about conspiracies even Tzeentch would need to take with a grain of salt.

>>55339785

Being transgender

>>55339785
Paranoia would be the obvious one, but maybe a tired cliche

Or you could do a Flesh Eater Courts type dilusion as in AoS. They are ghouls who still believe they are royalty and knights of the most pristine and highest order.

What others see on the outside is a clamor of blood soaked ghouls feasting on a pile of dead bodies, but what they see is a grand dinner table with their king at the end and the nobles partaking in a feast with a band playing and etiquette abound.

That's for the flesh eater courts. So a take on that could taken for Necrons. Your overlord still believes everything is pre-transformation. They are all still necrontyr before the ctan.

>>55340146
That's already been done with Zahndrekh, though. Would a depressed phaeron work or would it not be interesting?

>>55340877
A lovesick necron whose wife died before the conversion of the necrontyr. Because of this he is convinced that her soul is still out there reincarnated in some new form, for which he searches and performs experiments on converting humans and others to crude, tortured copies of necrons (proto pariahs).

>>55341011

Feels stale.

>>55339785

Homosexuality

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>>55339785

Derrealization

Depersonalization

Seizures

Being a horder
Apathetic

Manic Disorder

Amnesia

Schizophrenia

Eating Disorder (especially fun for an undead construct)

Megalomania

Histrionic Disorder

Psychopathy

Sadism

Vestiophobia

>>55339785
Generally I think it's good to pick something that suits their past life and their reaction to passing into undeath. A Necron on the cusp of obtaining a massive fortune when the Biotransferrence happened may become obsessed with expanding his material wealth despite having little need for such things, for example.

I think the "obsessed with their past life" thing worked out for my fluff, anyway.

>>55339597
>>55339485
The Necron madness happened after the Great Sleep. The Tomb Blades were designed and created during the War in Heaven for space combat.

They are the ultimate expression on how bad the Newcron design is and how awful the Newcron player tastes are since they keep running the blades.

>>55339785
>Multiple Personality
Issues with the biotransferrence put 2 "souls" into this one overlord/lord's body.
Bonus: They are husband and wife.
Bonus: They were rivals and they don't know their other half is their enemy. They only recognise their rival's work, and they pursue destroying the other's advance.
Bonus: They were twins. Honest mistake.

>Synesthesia
Difficult to RP, but their chassis were by choice to allow the "user" to see past the visible spectrums of light and other features beyond our realm of perception.
Bonus: This was not by choice, and they have never adapted to these visions/feels

>Agoraphobia
You must field them in a customized Catacomb Command Barge if you want to put them on the table.
Bonus: They never leave their tomb world, trusting entirely on their subjects to report thing accurately.
Bonus: As above, but their is a cheeky lord who oversteps their bounds, forcing his underlings to accurately report information to the overlord.

>>55341580
As a patrician NEWcron lover, I have never and will ever field Tomb Blades in my lists due to aesthetics and rules. Canoptek Acanthrites do the same thing but better.

>>55314666
>they have a lot of the menace of the oldcrons while still keeping the personality of the newcrons

No, they don't. FW the hacks they be, choose to portry the Maynarkh invasion only from the Imperials perspective. Any Newcron invasion would look the same from the Imperial PoV.

The only way FW figured to make the Newcrons scary is to omit everything that makes Newcrons Newcrons which is hack writing.

>>55309944
Boobs on a skeletal robot may be the stupidest attempt at sexualization I've ever seen

>>55341628
Carnac no matter how many times you hit me with this argument whenever Newcrons are brought up even vaguely, I won't give a shit. I love my orange death robots.

>>55339785

I made my Overlord have megalomania. He dawns a new title and name every day and expects all of his followers to call him by his chosen name of the day. His throne room is filled with statues of himself and slabs of epics about his various deeds (few of which he actually did). His right hand man is a bored necron lord whom wishes to break the monotony of his current world.

>>55342068
It's your right to like garbage but it's not your right to make up your own facts. Maynarkh have no Oldcron feel. It's just lazy writing by FW.

>>55342027
Considering how ostentatious and vain the Necrons are, it's not beyond the realm of possibility some of the female nobility would want to have the Crypteks bolt on some reminders of their former femininity.

>>55342208
Sure, sure, go off. Whatever helps you vent your endless fount of rage.

>>55339785
DID. It's s surprise that we don't have more Necron overlords that developed multiple alters to try and cope with the despair of their situation.

>>55342275
>Sure, sure, go off. Whatever helps you vent your endless fount of rage.

Not an argument. I am glad to accept your humiliating defeat. And Sautekh are the better dynasty anyways.

>>55342626
desu he doesn't have to make an argument since your post also contained no argument, just a reiteration of your previous unsubstantiated claim

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>>55342626
Mhm, here's you (you). Now go and play with the other kids outside.

>>55341486
We already have a hoarder in trazyn, but he's more of a collector of the strange. A hoarder that collects absolutely useless junk as many RL hoarders do could be very fun. Imagine seeing your world attacked pillaged and the only reason is that your enemy commander wants more lasguns for his collection.

>>55342719
Except I did post an argument. He said that Maynarkh had a Oldcron feel and I replied that they don't. It's just the way the book was written. It was 99.99% from the Imperial POV. It was lazy writing to show the Newcrons as scary when they are anything but.

Now go to Fall of Damnos and cut up all the Necron PoV pages and all the pages where Necrons social interact with humans. You will have the same result as Fall of Orpheus.

He got BTFO by this and had no reply.

>>55342865
What a sad, sad little shit poster.

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>>55339346
Same - I really like >>55336124's conversion for that reason, them and crypteks (and oddly deathmarks) I think are pretty great

>>55343423
Not an argument. FW are HACKS. If you have nothing substantial to add, then don't reply.

>>55343442
Tyranid wannabes. More C'tan, less tyranid rip-offs,

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>>55343449
yfw

>>55343442
So, are the mecha bugs any good this edition?

>>55343532
Yup. The Shooty one (Sentinel one) really helps Necrons with anti Armor which is really poor in the index.

I think everyone complaining about oldcrons having "no personality" are firstly assuming personality is a requirement to be interesting, which is false, but also vastly overestimating how much personality their own faction actually has.

>>55343730
I just want to be able to have my own dudes, man. Oldcrons are kind of the antithesis of that.

>>55343750
This. Even a narrative reason for necrons to fight necrons.

>>55343750

Not entirely. Lords are said to still have their intellect, though they are "shadows of their former selves". Whatever that might mean.
Is that really any less than most other factions?
Take orks for example.
All their troops are just gits who want to fight, and their warboss is the biggest git, and he really loves fighting.
There's virtually no variation, other than what planet or fight they're looking at next.

>>55342865
well, you said that FW are hacks because they made the newcrons look like oldcrons from the perspective of the imperium. this is an argument, yes, but it seems to argue against your own point. you claim that newcrons do not have any of the horror of oldcrons to them, but then state that they appear to be oldcrons from the outside, which implies that they DO have the horror of the oldcrons due to them being indistinguishable from the heroes' perspective, and you simply dislike that they didn't do a necron PoV. which is fine, but i don't think it makes a strong case against FW's writing, since the intent was almost certainly to present an implacable foe rather than the character-based stories such as Zahndrekh's. it seems that indeed this proves that oldcron-style terror is still possible while additionally allowing character-driven stories.

>>55343837
Goddamn ignorant Newcronfags are the most cancerous bunch. The Necron race was broken up to four factions each loyal to one of the C'tan gods who equally hated each other. Necron Lords are sentient, can talk, and have their own agendas based on the wider agendas of their C'tan Masters which can and have contradicted each other. It's known for the C'tan to have warred against each other so it's piss easy to have a Necrons vs Necron fight.

>>55343860
>aim that newcrons do not have any of the horror of oldcrons to them, but then state that they appear to be oldcrons from the outside,

You utterly and intentionally missed the point. FW are hacks because they choose not to include a Necron PoV in their book as they do with other xenos factions. Instead of trying to write the Newcrons as horrifying in their own right, they choose to minimise the Newcron element as much as possible not showing us the cackling goofiness of the Newcrons. It's lazy. It doesn't give Maynarkh especially an Oldcron feel because it could have been done with every single dynasty. Maynarkh is not special. It's not scary. That other anon is a moron to claim otherwise.

> this is an argument, yes,

Assuming you were that anon, does this mean you are a liar then?

>Salty Oldcronfags and retarded Newcronfags shitflinging like children

Autistic fucks like you lot are the reason I'm considering selling my Crons for Marines.

>>55344126

Excuse us for discussing Necrons in a Necron discussion thread.
Sorry for literally forcing you read the thread too.

>>55343897
Even the lords were still slaves to the ctan with no will of their own. Newcron lore gives them a lot more free agency.

Regardless, you are still going to sperg out about any counter argument no matter what, so why the fuck am I even bothering?

>>55344126
Do that. We need people voting with their wallets so that GW can fix the Newcrons. The fucks in these threads are the reason why Necrons are being sidelined in the setting story and made into a background character. Fucking Tau are more important to the main narrative than the Necrons at this point.

For fuck sake, when they cut down the previous heavy Necron involvement in the Cadian Gate to one clown character being there just to have fun, you know that a faction was fucked up the ass. These fuckers enabled this and then act like they care about the Necrons. Disgusting.

>>55344188
>Even the lords were still slaves to the ctan with no will of their own.

They had will of their own and three of the known C'tan were MIA leaving you options to do what you desired. Also in a Kal Jericho comic featuring Necrons, it had a giant Necron lord awakening with no memory of his purpose and masters. So here is your free agency.

>Regardless, you are still going to sperg out about any counter argument no matter what, so why the fuck am I even bothering?

Projection is not an argument.

>>55344188

>Even the lords were still slaves to the ctan with no will of their own.
False.
Unless you mean total free will.
But Lords do have minds of their own, and even personalities to some extent, as evidenced in the 3ed codex.

>>55344239
>not an argument.
Ah yes, the final nail in the coffin in any discussion. Spergs allover the internet are finding the ultimate stance to take is claiming any post is 'not an argument' and it devolves from there. Enjoy your ignorant bliss, my friend. I will be taking no more part in this.

>inb4 not an argument

>>55344291
I want you guys to analyse this post. He doesn't attempt to make counter points. Doesn't concede that he is wrong. It's by no means a meaningful contribution to this thread. This is not only a none argument but a shitpost.

>>55309944
Why does that robot have or need tits.
Christ you magical realm fags disgust me

>>55344291

Except he's right though.
And hilariously enough, you didn't bother replying to any of his argument.

>>55343995
>not showing us the cackling goofiness of the Newcrons

I dunno, kidnapping an Imperial governor from his highly fortified stronghold and transporting him all the way to the Maynarkh royal court then taking him back home so stealthily that nobody knew it was happening (and the governor himself thinking it was all just a nightmare) MULTIPLE TIMES just so they could fuck with him is pretty goofy.

>>55344411
I already said they minimised the Newcron element.

It wasn't multiple times. Note the last line that the Necron vizier says to the governor.

>>55344327
It doesn't need tits. It WANTS tits. That robot was once a living, breathing, flesh and blood organism. One with amazing, glorious, awe-inspiring tits. Men wanted to be with her and women wanted to be her (and also be with her, cause c'mon, nobody's that straight). Suitors in the hundreds brought her lavish gifts just to gain the barest glimpse of her heavenly cleavage. A nip slip could bring clashing armies to a standstill, weapons paused midswing as thousands of heads turned in unison to see a sight that would make the greatest painters throw away their brushes and canvasses knowing they could never capture even a fraction of such beauty in their art.

Robbed of that which she once held dearer than any treasure, she ordered the greatest craftsmen and crypteks to modify her body in an attempt to regain what she had lost. Alas, no amount of metal, no matter how finely crafted, could ever match the beauty of her fleshy funbags.

>>55344541
Except for the fact that the Necrontyr skin as shown in the World Engine novel is gray and ravaged by tumours. Nobody would be proud of cancer tits. Necrontyr females would most likely remove them to avoid death.

>>55344599
Nah, her tits were perfect and unblemished. Why do you think she was so proud of them. The fact that they weren't all ate up with space cancer made them even more spectacular.

>>55344541
> someone actually typed all that garbage out
You should work for BL at this rate anon.

>>55344353
not him but maybe its because theres no point. i dont blame him, as soon as someone drops the not an argument then it becomes a stupid argument of opinions. ive been observing the oldcron vs newcron shit thats been going on here, and for the most part its dumb to get involved

>>55344730
You are him. The same line of stupidity. He said something. He was corrected. He choose to not strike back in the argument or concede. He made a non-argument.

>>55344759
youre an idiot. and no, that's not meant to be an argument. just an observation

>>55344759
>>55344784
Ladies, please, you're both pretty.

>>55344784
And you can't read. I didn't say you made an non-argument. People who can't read English should get off 4chan.

>>55344541
probably shouldn't have made them out of metal. I consider myself something of a self trained expert on the subject, and metal just does really not seem like the best medium here.

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From a crunch perspective the C'tan being shattered makes sense.

Because having something that can eat stars as a unit that could in 7th.edition be killed by bolters makes little sense.


Fluff-wise there isn't any rule that says you can't have your dynasty serve the C'tan.


In fact the C'tan >or at least The Nightbringer
is/are characters.
>Pic very unrelated

>>55344960
>Fluff-wise there isn't any rule that says you can't have your dynasty serve the C'tan.

There is. C'tan shards are retarded and Anti-C'tan protocols.

But in the end i>>55345020
t doesn't matter if Necrons have Pariahs or Lychguard, if they're Tomb Kings or Terminators, if they serve the C'Tan or enslave them, if they want to "become flesh again" or just harvest delicious souls. As long as the means to their ends involves the systematic annihilation of everyone else, it's Necron enough for me

>>55345020
>But there is
Wrong.
There are numerous shards that have escaped captivity and are freely fucking things up, some of which do control their own armies of enslaved Necrons or Necrons damaged by the great sleep to forget their enmity with the C'tan.

>Shards are retarded
Shards are the only reasonable way to field C'tan as units on the tabletop without them having stats that table everyone turn 1.

You're just making excuses like a retard.

>>55345970
>There are numerous shards that have escaped captivity and are freely fucking things up,

The text describe them as mindless and incomplete in mind.

>some of which do control their own armies of enslaved Necrons or Necrons damaged by the great sleep to forget their enmity with the C'tan.

Cite examples I dare you.

>Shards are the only reasonable way to field C'tan as units on the tabletop without them having stats that table everyone turn 1.

That's irrelevant to my post.

>You're just making excuses like a retard.

You are a triggered bitch.

>>55346096
>The text describe them as mindless and incomplete in mind.

Some shards explicitly retain some measure of the memories and/or personality of their original self. That's the whole fluff behind the Nightbringer and Deceiver shards being their own thing as opposed to generic shards.

>>55346250
>That's the whole fluff behind the Nightbringer and Deceiver shards being their own thing as opposed to generic shards.

The only reason NB and GD have their own stats is because they have models. There is no fluff that says they are special in any regard to the other shards except one of them being the most violent and the other most devious.

>>55346286
>While no C'tan Shard has full recall of the omnipotent creature it once was, each carries the personality and hubris of that far vaster and more puissant being.

That's straight from the GW online store product description, no less.

>>55346286
It was a free shard of the Deciever that helped Abby-Dabby-Doo get his hands on the Blackstone fortresses.
There was also a free (possibly the same) Deciever shard acting as a planetary governor.

>>55346286
Furthermore the Transcendent C'tan shard of the Burning One that appeared in Sield of Baal back when Transcendent shards were a combination of between 12 to 100s shards was a mindless thing. Anrakyr had to use a special device in order to focus its shattered mind.

When the C'tan reached the Necron station it could not take control of the station because as the text said it was but a small shard of a greater mind and thus improvising and problem solving was beyond its ability.

>>55346339
Don't use Oldcron lore at me.

>>55346328
See >>55346355

Still a mindless creature.

>>55346373
I don't think you understand what mindless means. They're severely diminished, but they're far from mindless.

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PROOFS.

>The Burning One had corrected the Magnovitrium’s decaying orbit, and augmented the mighty device with a portion of its own godly power. Yet the C’tan Shard was but a single sliver of a once-great mind. It could follow its master’s orders, could even pour its own might into the Magnovitrium’s blast once it was triggered. It could not, however, subvert the device’s failsafes or override its firing protocols – such improvisation was simply beyond the god-shard’s ability to conceive. And so it hung in space, poised on the cusp of victory, yet unable to seize it.

-Shield of Baal

>912.M41 THE GOD SHADOW
>A shard of the Void Dragon escapes from its imprisonment, laying waste to the Arotepk Dynasty in its mindless rage. Though only a faint shadow of a true C’tan, the Void Dragon gorges itself on a dozen worlds, expending its fury upon the living before the Arotepk Crypteks can finally force it back into its cage.

>>55346373
That "Oldcron" lore is still accurate according to GW as of Battlefleet Gothic's vidya release, so it's just as valid now as ever.

>>55346401
You don't understand that there are proofs. See >>55346407

They have a spark of the personality of their former selves that colour how they mindlessly rage around.

>>55346410
No, vidya games are not canon until GW says otherwise. The game is loosely based on 4th ED version of the Gothic War and breaks the canon in serveral areas.

Furthermore, the Deceiver in the old lore wanted the BSF removed because they were the only weapons capable of harming a C'tan. This is no longer valid since the Newcrons now have a vast arsenal that defeated and killed C'tan.

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I need conversion inspiration to vary up some of my warriors. post conversions.

>>55335725
I wouldnt say they are as good as they were last edition. Theyve got 3 wounds each, hiting on 3s with a 3+ armor and invo but the damage output isnt too good compared to everything else this edition. The best melee weapons you could give them are whipcoils that let them attack in the fight phase even if they die bu will only inflict 1dmg per wound. You might be better off with triarch pretorians if you're looking for something thats fast and not too bad in combat since their weapons are str 5 ap-3 dmg 1 in shooting and melee and move 10 inches a turn

>>55314025
The anryker book features 2 female necrons, they are really cool, but get a bad end

>>55335725
>>55347834

Just a note about whipcoils, they are a weapon, not a weapon replacement.
So you can take them and still attack with the regular Vicious Claws. Always take whipcoils if fighting a close combat focused army.
If you're dealing with a squishier army, take the particle casters instead so you can shoot your opponent during the shooting phase while still locked in combat.

On Praetorians, ALWAYS take voidblades and casters.
You get +1 attacks and a shooting attack while in combat.
The ONLY reason to take Rods of Covenant is if you want to pose a threat to light vehicles, otherwise the loss in CC with infantry isn't worth the points.

>>55340146
>you could do a Flesh Eater Courts
I swear, if the new real Necron release (actual release, not just the codex) doesn't feature Valgûl the Fallen Lord, I'm going to murder a kitten.

>>55313131
This looks more Cryx/Warmachine than Necron/40K ...

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>>55346624
I don't have a conversion officially per se, but I really want to get a hold of the head from pic related for my Appointed Immortal's head in SWA, since I gotta do -something- to make it stand apart from the other Immortals since it's virtually identical in every other conceivable way.

>>55350054
>not just the codex
What do you mean? More models? Us?! I don't think so. We need them too much.