Iconic Masters Spoilers

>call itself iconic
>no bolt

>>55291707
>Dissolve instead of Counterspell
Eternal Masters is more iconic than Iconic Masters.

Iconic more like print "expensive" cards lmao. Where is bolt/cs/demonic tutor?

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She's back

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HHHHNNNNNGGGGGG

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>>55292095

>>55292095
>>55292119

pretty neat, hopefully the set will be fun enough to draft multiple times.

>>55292095
>>55292119
God I'm gonna pimp my Pauper decks out with these SO HARD.

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>>55292095
>>55292119

>>55292095
>>55292119
Unstable.
>>55292084
>she

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>>55292119
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>>55292095
>>55292119
>>55292126
>>55292144

>>55292126
>Borderless full-art
>John Avon
>M15 formatting
It's perfect. They're going to look so much better without camera glare too.

>>55292119
This mountain is the blandest thing I have ever seen. The other are good, though. the swamp is the best one.

>>55292131
Ugh, anon, she is a "she".

from what I've seen there's only been 96 out of 249 cards revealed. there may be still room for bolt, I haven't checked any number crunches

>>55292095
>>55292119
>>55292126
>>55292144
>>55292158
Now imagine all these foil.

Also, they're rares? What the fuck.

>>55292201
I'd assumed people would have cracked it by now though.

>>55292212
Redditors have commented that the stamp is there likely because they're on the same sheet as Steamflogger Boss.

>>55292212
What's the only thing in the set that has any value? That's right, the sick ass lands.

>>55292242
What does this even mean?

So the reprinted Modern cards are Modern legal, right? Like, can i play an Iconic Masters Thoughseize in a Modern deck?

>>55292406

Yes.

>>55292406
Enjoy losing your fucking planeswalker points cunt, you're going to jail.

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>>55292369
neat

>>55292177
Yeah that Mountain really sticks out as unremarkable on its own, and compared to the rest of the art cycle? Total shit.

>>55292436
Thanks. I'm a relatively new player.

>>55292438
uh what

>>55292406
You can use all the cards in the set, go brew a deck with mana drain now and use it next week at FNM!

>>55292401
I'm informed that MaRo confirmed Steamflogger Boss is printed on the same sheet as these lands, meaning 120/121 packs will have a Steamflogger Boss instead of a land. Because they're on the same sheet as Steamflogger Boss, and Steamflogger Boss needs to have the rare foil stamp, all the lands have a rare foil stamp.

Which is pure bs, I know that's the sort of shit I do to my cube drafters when I throw Steamflogger Boss and Storm Crow in my Vintage cube but fuck my hypocritical ass that's dick move on Wizard's part.

>>55292519
Hah. I'm new but not that new.

>>55291225
This had no right to be over $10

>>55292522
I still don't understand.
Is Steamflogger Boss a special card or something?

>120/121 packs will have a Steamflogger Boss instead of a land
Does this mean lands will be super rare? Because that's complete bullshit.

>>55292670
You are legitimately stupid

>>55292670
Boss escalated into a meme when Contraptions were never introduced in a real set despite the keyword on the card, last they were speculated to debut in Kaladesh. There has been some speculation around the card which WOTC is aware of.

>>55292719
Or maybe you it's you who can't explain shit.
>>55292724
Okay, that's explains everything. There's still the matter of the lands being ultra rare.

>>55292760
No, every pack contains a full-art basic, but 1 time out of 121 there will be a Boss instead of the basic.

>>55292158
>>55292144
>>55292126
>>55292119
>>55292095
I AM FULLY ERECT

>>55292670
No, it's because Steamflogger was originally printed in a set with a black border, which means it needs to keep that black border even in the Un set because it's a card that's technically legal in other formats. The only way to do that economically was to print it with the lands.

>>55292760
Seeing as I didn't explain anything and understood the other anon immediately, no, you're just fucking dumb.

>>55292509
You heard the man.

>>55292789
That clears things up. The dude he replied to said:

>120/121 packs will have a Steamflogger Boss instead of a land

instead of 1/121

>>55292406
Remember a new Seize on the market will make all Siezes cheaper for a while. If you prefer the other art, or even one with something like the great icon of Morningtide, you should also go for it.

>>55292890
To be honest I'm not sure either which way it is, but it would be enormously retarded on Wizard's part to make the basics practically ghost rare.

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>all this new art

Draftfags can suck my dick, this set is worth it just for how beautiful some of these cards look.

>>55292886
understandable
>>55292895
when it comes to thoughseize I like both of the arts a lot. The only thing I care about is having matching art. Do you think the prices of the Lorwyn ones will drop?

>>55292876
Then I guess we're all retards except you >>55292890 >>55292904

>>55292954
Likely, Theros made it lose a little bit of value. You'll still probably have to pay a little extra for the Lorwyn version, but I think it's worth it. I suggest going for it during the second week of December if you aren't in a hurry.

>>55292956
Yeah, probably. Its not a difficult concept

>121/120? That doesn't make sense, probably a typo

Not really that hard.

>>55292895
>Morningtide
You mean Lorwyn?
>>55292954
I'd prefer to have both arts.

>>55293098
The mistake doesn't intrinsecally contain the correct answer. Sure, you can guess but only retards claim a guess is the truth or start an argument with a guess as proof.

>>55293098
Also you aren't even able to quote correctly, he typed 120/121.

>>55293149
And only dipshits take anything said on a Mongolian throat singing board as truth of god without basic reasoning or a primary source

>>55293164
See? Its not that hard

>>55292369
I want to have sex with this card.

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>>55291225
Alright, what do we know about the draft archetypes and what rares/uncommons to look for? So far, I think we can see allied colors, with W/G blink and maybe a 5-color defender strategy. A lot of commons seem to care about spellslinging, too.

>>55293082
I'll keep that in mind, thanks man.

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>reprinted at common

Who pauper here?

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Fuck yes.

>>55293229
ASSualt formation defenders looks viable and it got bumped down to uncommon.

>>55293393
I'm interested that Overgrown Battlement is in the same rarity too, along with Fog Bank and Mnemonic Wall. I'm not sure how the archetype is supposed to reasonably come together if it is 5-color, but it does seem that flying will be a premium keyword outside of the rare slots. There's also a good bit of lifegain to consider too. I'm not sure how the aggressive Dragon decks are going to close out before people can stabilize. Maybe U/B mill is supposed to prey on that?

>>55291225

How fucking tiny will the print runs be?

Cost per pack/box?

>>55293554
It is Temur. I don't know where people are getting 5 color.

>>55293626
Looks to be quite sizable. People are saying that the drafts today still had product left over at the end, despite a big turnout. I expect something slightly larger than MM3, riding off the Timmy hype from the Praetors.

>>55293654
$9.99 USD MSRP, same as always. desu I get that they have to inflate it somewhat so that investors can't hoard sealed product, but $7.99 USD is perfectly reasonable, considering they've now worked out the overhead kinks for these sets.

>>55293705
Any other 3-color archetypes, shard or wedge? I'm not sure what third color Dragons are going to want. Maybe blue for some early-game deterrents?

>>55293654
Preorder at €200, think it will fall to 180 before release.

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>when you traded in your playset glimpse the unthinkable a month ago

Now that the dust is settling, I find that this is just a Modern Masters with like five Legacy cards. Far from the "Iconic" we were promised.

This is NWO's icons, not Magic's icons.

It looks like fun to draft, don't get me wrong, but it feels like MM2/MM3 levels as opposed to MMA/EMA, where we have to make do with terrible spells for "balanced Limited formats" and to "avoid price gouging".

>>55293334
Is this supposed to be good? All I see is a more expensive version of that other wall.

>>55294658
>Praetors
>Kami Dragons
>huge amount of Modern staples
>Standard all-stars from as far back as Urza block

Looks pretty iconic to me. They're measuring by play rate in constructed formats more than anything else, although I too would've liked to see some more popular spells like Ponder, Daze or even Electrickery.

>>55294773
Walls with more than one power can be a bitch in Limited, and this one benefits from being blinked out. Pretty sure G/W blink is gonna be one of the draft archetypes, so this could be a huge overperformer.

Where's my port reprint? :(

>>55294797
Electro Kerry is in the set

>>55294935
Lel. Electrickery.

How does the 25 Masters set one-up this?

>>55294955
And by electrickery I mean electrolyze.

>>55294997
I'm imagining a dual/tricolor draft set with very heavy focus on the big cycles, like Dragonlords, Guild leaders, and possibly Eldrazi in the colorless slots, as well as some format all-stars and Gatewatch reprints

There are no colorless mythic I've seen yet. Port could be the mythic

>the only valuable thing in the unstable set are the lands
>that's why it have the foil stamp on it

>>55294997
It could have grizzly bears

>>55295030
>he wants value in a joke set

>>55293306
Fuck yes. Do we get swiftspear too? It looks super blurry.

Jace's phantasm and jaddi offshoot are noteworthy too, and River of tears is weird but I'll take it.

>>55295268
Swiftspear is uncommon, thank god. Still waiting for one of the Archetypes to get the bump down. Courage could single-handedly make U/W fliers a real deck.

>>55295420
I might be slow, but how does first strike help uw fliers?

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>have no problem with Unstable lands not having borders
>think the art is just okay
Except the forest. If it weren't for this sick ass Autumn forest I'd go for that one.

>>55295532
beating down delvers?

>>55295532
It helps stop Faeries from uncontestedly smacking you, for one, as well as Delver folding hard against it. Your own Delvers and possibly Glint Hawk become extremely scary depending on how many artifacts you want, and you can run right over most Tron variants once Augur and Oracle become outwitted.

Why don't they sell fat packs of this? The book inside along with lands made them worth buying. And think os the bad ass dice we could have had

>>55292369
That's fucking ridiculous

so uhh how many uncommon tiers will there be?

i wouldn't get too exicted

>>55295698
Because supplemental draft product can't be sold in that small of an amount. You need a lot to just pull off a single draft.

>>55296617
How about "sealed" packs that have five boosters, a land brick, and a spin down? Each player gets one and you're good to go.

>>55297490
You do realize that if they print fucktons of these lands in land packs they won't be worth the $10 that the unhinged ones go for, right?

>>55294997
>How does the 25 Masters set one-up this?
Reserved List abolished.
Reserved Masters.

>>55297503
Good, why would I want vasics to cost that much?

>>55297535
Just making sure you're not one of the idiots who hoarded BfZ fatpacks because MUH $80 LAND PACK

>>55295022
>gatewatch reprints
fuck off

>>55297594
Didn't say you had to like it, but the Gatewatch's individual characters have a lot of history in the game. We'd probably see both them and the Weatherlight.

>>55295042
I like the way you think

>>55297609
I'd actually be fine with that.

When will wotc cater to my specific autism and make a supplemental that's just 20 different full arts for each of the basics.
I play commander and need a lot of full arts, and I don't like having the same art twice (not because singleton, I make sure to get different land arts in sealed and draft too).

>>55292369
Shit art, disservice to mana drain

>>55297978
Better than whatever the fuck those little swimming bugs sucking shit off the ocean floor was supposed to be.

>>55297978
you just have shit taste

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>>55297978
Yea how could you possibly compete with this marvelous art.

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>worst art restoration

This is displeasing.

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Was this iconic because it's everyone's least favorite hydra?

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>>55295268

>>55298815
It's "iconic" because WotC doesn't give an actual shit about reprints, they just make token efforts.

>>55298815
maybe because it was one of the 'community' ones?
there are worse hydras, but everyone would have just preferred polyK

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>>55298851
Seriously, half of the cards are from the Khans block; how is that muddled-time set iconic at all?

At least we get Thune in a new border.

>>55298887
Khans was the last block with actual GOOD cards

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>>55298897
That's fine, I'm not refuting the power level of khans cards, but those cards havent been out-of-print for very long at all and I don't believe any of them are particularly "iconic".

Should siege rhino belong in iconic masters because it was a cancer in standard for several months? Does that count as iconic?

>>55298887
Worse, they printed tons of garbage Khans cards instead of the actually iconic ones like Rhino or by favourite boy Big Meaty Knucks (Savage Knuckleblade)

Honestly WotC should stop using "It's meant to be drafted" as an excuse to print pack filler like Abzan Falconer. People fucking love Vintage Cube on mtgo and that's full of busted cards that tear draft formats in half. Busted crazy drafts are fine, especially when it's a supplementary set and it would facilitate a ton more good reprints.

>>55298943
they printed taylor, she was pretty 'iconic' but not really 25-years iconic that they said it was gonna be

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Memetic Masters when?

>>55292369
my penis is diamonds but the art is shit

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>>55291225
YEET BOI, FUCKING FINALLY

>>55292212
Foil ruins art.

>>55298804
I guess that's an opinion.
Both art are really good, so I'm kidna happy to see more of this one printed, this way people will be able to pick the one they want without pain.

>>55292369
nu-magic pls

this art is trash

>>55300743
Well it's a good thing this reprint will bring down the overall price of the other arts of the card by at least a marginal amount too isn't it?

>>55294997
>Jace
>Lili
>Karn
>etc.
>hurr
>>55297510
After 20 years people are still this stupid.
>>55297978
This.
>>55298637
>>55298686
>>55298752
You have to be older than 18 to post on this site.

Nothing better than a parasite draining mana for a card named mana drain. Especially better than a generic tornado drawing for ADHD underage kids.

>>55298897
Yeah, too bad the set itself was garbage. Incredibly unfun and boring.

>>55293164
Let's be honest, if you have any semblance of intelligence you can realize that it's an obvious mistake, as having 1/121 cards on a sheet be land is impossible as there are more than 1 land.

>>55300904
>>55300743
Agreed. I like the underwater art of mana drain far more then vortex- still, I will take what I can get. I would love for OG mana drain to be cheaper then this new one, but that will never happen.

>>55300904
>hur dur it's older so it's better

People like you are why the world sucks. The old art is fucking garbage. The new art isn't fantastic but at least it looks like mana is being drained without having to make several inferences.

>>55301256
It's better because it's better, idiot. I don't care about the age, I care about thought, composition, imagination, CGshit. The new one is digital, has no imagination behind it and doesn't represent the subject at all.

Any other question?

>>55301256
neck yourself

>>55300257
It was definitely a popular conversation card, so it's perfect as a common

>>55300367
>foil flusterstorms for the first time ever

welp, line up for your $200 foil

>>55298815
That's every terrible hydra from Theros block

holy shit this set is amazing

>>55298815
Iconic is a tribal reprint thing circling around hydras, dragons, angels, demons, and sphinxes...

>>55292369
So, who got hit by a bus?

>>55302003
They could have at least printed good ones though.
Where's the worldgorger dragon?
Where's the Griselbrand?

>>55302003
>hydra
>tribal
Kek.

>>55298815
I actually really like Genesis Hydra. I would rather have Khalni Hydra, or Kalonian Hydra, but I like Genesis.

>>55302056
>Where's the Griselbrand?
Another reprint set from the same year? Duh.

I swear people are dumb.

>>55301351
>doesn't represent the subject at all
>literally a vortex draining red shit

The most apt criticism of it is that it's too on the nose. The old mana drain art is a raging dumpster fire that is nearly meaningless unless you just make shit up.

>>55302351
Draining from where? A vortex doesn't drain anything, it just makes things on its way fly. Also it represents the vortex badly, the point of view makes you have a limited sight of what's going on.

All these are objective facts.

Oh, and it's CGshit on top of it all.

>>55302391
>>55302351
Basically the picture doesn't tell any story, it's just a flashy thing for kids with attention disorder.

>>55301559
>such a raging homo he has to resort to memes when he tells someone to kill themself

>>55302391
>>55302409
"Wah CG shit"
"Wah no story"
There's no story from old mana drain either, it's just "Here's some bugs draining mana".
Show me a card with art that depicts a story you rose-tinted glasses faggot.

I bet tons of your favourite card art is "CG shit" too and you don't know it, you just use it as the hot new scapegoat because of a few lazy fuck artists that stood out.

where do I preorder iconic

>>55302478
can yet

>>55302453
>There's no story from old mana drain either, it's just "Here's some bugs draining mana".
>there's not story, there's only this story
Hurr durr.

If you can't see the difference you really are stupid, I'm not going to explain in detail what the original art depicts because you too have eyes and a brain.

>>55302478
>>55302491
Magic card market has it.

>>55302553
>Magic card market
where can i spend real money to buy it and not fake eurocuck monopoly money?

on top of being awful at magic I didn't know /tg/ could be so contrarian too!

>>55302553
>I'm not going to explain in detail what the original art depicts
Because it's literally "Bugs draining mana" like this is "Vortex draining mana".
If you refuse to explain the difference, you're just admitting you have no argument at all.

>>55302478
I preordered mine for 40 dollars below MSRP because I was the first person to show interest, ie the first customer in the store when the Hascon draft started.

>>55302391
A vortex is a synonym for a whirlpool you pedant, so it is draining that shit into wherever it goes, assumedly into your mana pool.

The old art lacks action, you can't tell if the deflated football with tree roots is actively doing anything, it's just kind of there. This just doesn't fit with a card that is supposed to be about the action of countering a spell by draining the mana used to cast it into yourself. The new art is far from perfect, I don't deny much of what anyone had said about it, it just fits mana drain better.

>>55302575
At the nearest mass shooting center.
>>55302605
I've already explained to your dumb ass that the new art doesn't depict where the vortex is draining mana from, together with many other things. Are you ignoring this on purpose?

Please explain to me how a vortex drain things. I'm waiting.

Also try to debate the fact that the depiction of the vortex is garbage. I'm waiting for that as well.
>>55302632
>A vortex is a synonym for a whirlpool you pedant, so it is draining that shit into wherever it goes
To drain you need to perforate, make holes etc. A vortex or whirlpool doesn't do that. Or you disagree?

Since when the lack of movement in art means no action or that the art is bad? The art depicts the action of a parasyte that infiltrated a land (the object that lacks in the new art) draining energy from it.

Can you improve on the old art? Yes, it's not motherfucking Michelangelo. But it's original and interesting and it gives a good idea of what the card does.

The new one reminds me of a Transformers movie.

>>55302712
>I've already explained to your dumb ass that the new art doesn't depict where the vortex is draining mana from
The old art doesn't depict where the mana is being drained from any better.

>To drain you need to perforate, make holes etc. A vortex or whirlpool doesn't do that. Or you disagree?
Ok you're just flat out retarded and/or pretending to be at this point.

>>55302727
>The old art doesn't depict where the mana is being drained from any better.
>what is the bottom of the sea

>Ok you're just flat out retarded and/or pretending to be at this point.
If you check out the definition of to drain you will see it's connected to these few concepts:
- a liquid being removed from the original source by either spilling, pouring, absorbing or channeling it through a pipe (the mana)
- the subsequent loss of energy (the parasyte)

Now, please tell me how the new art depicts all this.

>>55301256
It's a shitty bland whirlwind. It's shit.

>>55298752
This has great color contrast, it has a bizarre abstract nature to it, and represents some sort of magical parasitic element draining something,. A million times better than the bland corporate board room shit they slapped on to the new one.

Both art are shit.

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>>55302850
drain
drān/Submit
verb
1.
cause the water or other liquid in (something) to run out, leaving it empty, dry, or drier.
"we drained the swimming pool"
synonyms: empty (out), void, clear (out), evacuate, unload
"a valve for draining the tank"
2.
deprive of strength or vitality.
"his limbs were drained of all energy"


>Now, please tell me how the new art depicts all this.
The new art shows some sort of red spell being sucked in by swirling water or something (almost like it's a drain, spooky!)

The old art is a bug thing on a sea floor that if you look at it for a few seconds you can get that it's sucking something out of the floor but seeing as this is a magic game about magic and this spell is specifically countering another magic spell the new art is a better representation of what's happening in every conceivable way.

If you want to complain about bad art look at the Vintage Masters art. Sure it works for a general concept of counterspell but this could be applied to pretty much any counterspell instead of specifically mana drain.

>>55302712
>that the new art doesn't depict where the vortex is draining mana from,
From the very clearly seperate spell on the fucking right of the image, the spell you are countering.
You can be pendantic over the word "drain" but it's fucking magic, why must the mechanism that pulls the magic from one spell and into your mana pool need to look exactly like a fucking pipe?

> a parasyte that infiltrated a land (the object that lacks in the new art) draining energy from it.
The old art would be a better fit for fucking Power Sink than mana drain because that card actually interacts with lands, meanwhile the new art is very clearly showing one spell sucking the energy from another.

>>55302850
>>what is the bottom of the sea
Not a spell. You get the mana from the countered spell, not from their lands they already used for mana in the spell.

>>55302890
Finally someone who's not retarded.
>>55302947
>mental gymnastic: the post
It's just a vortex. It's not even depicted in an interesting way.
>>55302960
>You can be pendantic over the word "drain" but it's fucking magic, why must the mechanism that pulls the magic from one spell and into your mana pool need to look exactly like a fucking pipe?
You're the ones who asked for an explanation and now I'm explaining it to you.
You can only drain liquid-like matter. Which apparantly mana is.

Sure, you get the mana from a spell, it's still a great artwork. Only you can see the spell in the new one, by the way.

Is there anything contrarian autists won't get upset over just because it's old?

I've seen people legitimately try to defend that the old way of displaying modal spells was better, and then there's the big daddy of contrarianism, "I want mana burn back".

>>55303095
>It's just a vortex. It's not even depicted in an interesting way.
Please tell me how a literal drain draining away a spell that you can see happening in the card is mental gymnastics but "This bug thing with roots in the ground" isn't.

>>55302960
>>55302947
Also you could argue that if you counter a spell the mana cost for that spell hasn't been paid yet so mana drain doesn't get the mana from the spell.

>>55303122
A vortex doesn't drain anything. Did you even read the definition?
Do you not understand the difference between pouring water or absorbing it via pipes and the action of a vortex on a liquid?

>>55303101
>Is there anything contrarian autists won't get upset over just because it's old?
I have no idea, especially since it's a Hyalopterous Lemure tier artwork.

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>>55303169
While not oustanding or anything I certainly think this is better than old mana drain at depicting what it wants.

>>55303204
It's supposed to be a ghost, not a lemur.

>>55301613
>foil flusterstorms for the first time ever
Nope.

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>>55303217
It's a spirit, not a ghost. Spirits can be normalish creatures.
Kamigawa's are all kind of fucky though because it's going off of old japanese mythos.

>>55303278
Look up what a Lemure is, it's very specific.

It is definitely not a Lemur.

>>55303323
>In Roman mythology, the lemures were shades or spirits of the restless or malignant dead
They never specify what they look like, just formless blackness. They probably could have done that as a card but I think they were just going for a joke in that it looks kind of like a lemur.

Or maybe they just had fuck all art direction back then and the guy thought the card was called "Lemur".
"Hyalopterous" is apparently Greek for "Smartest" but that doesn't really tie into the art that much.

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>>55303426
>Or maybe they just had fuck all art direction back then and the guy thought the card was called "Lemur".
Yes, dumbass. That's what I've been trying to tell you the entire time, but you're too retarded to comprehend that. It was also one of the inspirations for this card.

>>55302478
currently one listing on tcgplayer for 350 bucks

>>55298897
>a super recent block was the last good one
So you're saying you like the state of modern M:tG and think it's getting better over time?

>>55303890
I liked Amonkhet block

>>55301613
it was a judge foil bro

>>55292369
New art is more fitting for a counterspell desu.
The original art isn't bad, but would probably work better on an enchantment. There's nothing interrupting/instantaneous about it.

>>55303159
>A vortex doesn't drain anything.
Vortex: a whirling mass of water, especially one in which a force of suction operates, as a whirlpool.

>>55303159
>A vortex doesn't drain anything. Did you even read the definition?
A vortex is CREATED when something is being drained into something through a smaller opening, especially with a lot of suction.

>>55292369
>Blue gets yet another completely broken counterspell
So glad that I don't play modern or standard. Blue is cancer.

>>55304223
This has to be bait

>>55304223
>get another
>modern or standard
(You)
This is an old card.

55304223, that's the weakest bait I've seen in a long time. No reply for (You).

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>all these great reprints
>pretty strong hype levels
>set launches in november

>>55304223
I agree bro. How the fuck am I supposed to cast my craw wurms when gay autist cnotrol decks have 4 of these and just slam a planeswalker the next turn?

>this much of KTK block
Why?
There are a lot of hits here, but I really wish we got a Glimpse of Nature or Demonic Tutor reprint.

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>>55304231
>>55304248
>>55304252

>>55300904
Nostalgia Goggles: the Post

>>55299005
25-years is next year's Masters.
Iconic Masters is the Dragon/Angel/Demon/Sphinx/Hydra Masters set

>>55293306
still a useless shit in powper
Jace's Phantasm looks way more interesting

>>55302415
why are you quoting yourself samefag

>>55291813

If they actually filled the set with iconic cards they wouldn't be able to justify the price tag becausr most iconic cards have already been reprinted 20 times.

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>>55307892
Try again you colossal faggot

>>55308123
jebaited

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>>55308146

>no demonic tutor
Gay.

>>55308178
yeehaw

>>55308123
reply to this post within 5 minutes or your mother dies within a week. no immunities.

>>55300764
This is true at least

Thenk u anon, my shiny holo of hope

>>55301256
You are trash.

The old art had soul.

You do not.

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>>55308957
>>55308413

le immunity doggo xd

>>55310236
>It's old so it has some nebulous concept of value that I cannot accurately express or quantify but it makes me right

>>55310499
Do you just want me to say that I like the art better

You're're taste is trash.

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>MFW there is no doubling season

>>55310820
You're welcome to like whatever the fuck you want you insecure faggot, but pretending that your opinion is better than anyone else's is retarded