Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>55279779
First for Necrons!

1st for Space Marines are boring and bland.

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So why was everybody assblasted over this guy?

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>>55279779
Oh shit /tg/, I got a package from GW!

I wonder what could be inside...

>>55279806
very cheap smite that you can't shoot at unless it's closest.

>>55279806
Screeching over 30 pt possible periling into a baby daemon prince.

>>55279779
Can't Bombard the Death Guard

>>55279779
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How do I make a fun TS list that doesn't involve Magnus or Ahriman?

Also what Warcoven should they be apart of?

>>55279816
CORSAIRS

>>55279816
We don't care.

>>55279816
A lawsuit.

>>55279816
five of those 30th Anniversary Primaris Sergeants

>>55279779

I'd love it if they found the STC template for something that's more or less blatantly a regular car at sci fi standards, and then stapled some guns on it. Maybe a rear arc one in place of a trunk and a couple of forward ones as well. You can call it something equivalent to the General Lee and it'd fit right in.

The Ollianus Pious?

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>>55279857
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>>55279866
All good guesses. Let's grab my favorite trusty pocket knife, and find out!

I'm currently in the process of building a super cheesy Emperor's Children army with a hard rock/heavy metal theme. I'm hoping to make cultists that are moshers for close combat squads and other general groupies for the autoguns,but have no idea how to start them beyond converting up a few empire flagellants. Anybody have any ideas or recommendations?

>>55279878
Shove the knife up your ass

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Dubs decide what traitor legion I paint and use.

About to get betrayal at calth box and chaosify the marines.

>>55279901
Iron Warriors, be bland

>>55279901
Night Lords

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>>55279901
Emperor's Children, my dude.
I'd say wait on actually starting them, though. We can be hopeful they get the DG/TS treatment.

>>55279878
please dont make this take forever for some shitty joke

>>55279901
Who are the blue marines below the World Eaters?

>>55279901
Rollin for Thousand Sons.

>>55279806
Because he makes smite easily spammable

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>>55279896
That sounds painful! I'll pass.

>>55279930
Well, unless Venomthropes/Zoanthropes are jokes now, I don't think there is one.

>>55279936
Night lords

>>55279901
Thousand Sons

>>55279901
Alpha Legion

>>55279901
Dark Angels

>>55279936
Violaters

Slaaneshi warband, cool dudes, sadly forgotten by GW. May they rest in peace.

>>55279945
shit taste confirmed

>>55279901
Dark Angels

>>55279946
Clearly not.

>>55279955
Fair enough I'll look them up.

>>55279945
Oh nice, it actually is dragon dildos for once

>>55279945
This is possibly the gayest time that someone actually delivered. Next up...... what's in the laundry basket. (Hint, it's laundry)

>>55279901
Go for Sons.

>>55279945
Sorry, but they are both garbage. Malanthropes are Venomthropes but better in every way, and zoanthropes will very rarely make their points back, and dramatically lose their usefulness after they fall below 4 models

How bad would it be if I proxied a daemonhost as an eversor or culexus assassin?

After having reread eisenhorn, I feel like that would be a more accurate representation of a daemonhost than the T4 W1 5++ we have now

>>55279901
World Eaters.

Then buy some Blood Warriors and convert them up as Khorne Bezerkers

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>>55279990
The backgrounds for these are so unfitting

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>>55279958
I take offense to that.

>>55279966
Accurate

>>55279968
We're not done yet! We also got the newest White Dwarf, with 2 massive posters! And also in a weird cardboard cover thing.

>>55279980
I'm mainly getting them because I only had 2 Finecast Zoanthropes and 1 Finecast Venomthrope, which means I couldn't field them as squads anymore. Venoms still seem good though.

>>55279999
That's the point.

Forgive the question, but what is the problem with 1d4chan's tactics?

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>>55279901
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>>55279901
Alpha Legion

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>>55279980
>Playing models for minmaxy reasons instead of picking what you think is cool.

>>55280001
Trouble with Venomthropes is the 3 " range is horrifically short, and they are so squishy they tend to get shot off the board turn one and the buff is lost. Malanthropes do the job better as they also provide all important synapse, and as characters they cannot be picked off as easily.

>>55280016
It enforces meta. If everyone only used the best models, no one would have fun.

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>>55279901
Become Alpharius, anon.

>>55280016
They aren't even tactics, they're just explaining what each unit does and could do out loud for retards who don't already know. Also whatever little actual tactics they have are WAACfaggotry

>>55279901
Word bearers. Paint and play the best worst legion you can.

>>55279901

>Violator legion

The fuck?

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>>55279901
Show the Emperor's puppers what a true wolf looks like!

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And that's it! Yeah, kinda short unboxing, but I live in the middle of bumfuck no where, so kinda rely on deliveries for stuff.

>>55280036
While I will agree that the 3" nerf was a bit much, my local meta are kinda dumb and almost never target the Venomthropes first. Though, I will look into getting a Malanthrope now that you say that.

>>55279779
I love that the taurox prime can burn around at mach 10 and still hit on 4+

>>55279901
Word Bearers

>>55279901
Alpha Legion

>>55279901
Black Legion

So let me get this straight...

The eldar are reforming their empire? The ynnari gonna get an actual army of Ynnari? Also Exodites fucking when?

>>55279901
Things shall get loud now!
Emperor's Children

So what is everyones projections for the Admech codex? Are we getting buffs, nerfs, barley any changes?

>>55280016
Take them with a grain of salt because most of them will be meme/gimmick tactics.

But they are fucking hilarious.

>>55279901
black legion

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>>55280038
Fuck the meta. I'm getting 300pts worth of fun and I'm going to tackle a storm raven to death with my breaching laser before 20 angry batmans hop out and begin shitting up the place.

>>55280111
TRIPS OF SLAANESH

>>55280111
So it has been decided. Things shall get loud.

>>55280016
As everything with 1d4, it's okay as a quick overview of things, but you should take every word there with a mountain of salt.

>>55279901
Luna Wolves

Eldar players:

I'm gonna be doing 3 10 man Dire Avenger squads in twin-lance wave serpents at a tournament this weekend. The other half of the list is two groups of Farseer(Guide/Doom) + 8 ShuriCannon bikes.

Would you suggest running the shimmershield, or is the squad 5+ save not worth it? I'm weighing the cost vs the loss of 4 shots.

>Any particularly devastating catastrophes you think we’ve missed? Think that the rise of the T’au rivals the arrival of the Tyranids in terribleness?

That's a good question by GW. Do the T'au Empire's rise in the galaxy equals or is greater than the arrival of the Tyranids?

>>55280165
>Dire Avengers in a tournament
Well there is your first problem.
Shields though if you're going to run them

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Its that time again everyone...

POST HQ's!

So what's the best tartarus bodyguard load out for sticking with Gabe Angelos?

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I picked up the start of a guard army recently, and I'm playing 1000 pts against nids tomorrow. Can anyone give me some recommendations?

What I have available:
>About 50 cadians, including 3 heavy weapons squads(2 lascannon, 1 heavy bolter)
>creed/kell
>pask
>a commissar
>a callidus assassin
>a command squad
>3 leman russ battle tanks with conversion cannons available for...I think demolishers


right now, what I have is probably pretty shitty:
>vanguard detachment(Imperium)
>creed(warlord)
>Kell, commissar, callidus
>2 infantry squads, each with a plasma gun and a voxcaster

>spearhead detachment(Astra Militarum)
>tank commander in a battle tank, with a storm bolter, heavy flamer, and heavy bolter sponsons
>2 leman russ battle tanks with a heavy stubber, 3 heavy bolters, and battle cannon
>heavy weapons team with 2 lascannons and a heavy bolter

eventually, I'm planning to convert more to a steel legion army, so lots of artillery, but for now, I have no idea how to build a proper 1000 point guard list.

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>>55280166
>One led to the destruction of hundreds of worlds, inflicted heavy losses to the Ultramarines in their home turf, nearly wiped out the Blood Angels, and the Octarius war is shaping up to spill over into nearby sectors and heavily damage them
>The other is the T'au
No.

>>55280166
>40ktheory: Are the Tyranids descendants of Tau?

>>55280182
Well I mean, shit on me if you like, it's what I have and I am having fun making my Hotline Aeldari / Craftworld Miami 80s retrowave neon paint scheme. I'm not all that concerned about winning as much as I am having fun with hot shit models hosing dudes with space elf ninja stars.

>>55280188
Don't these guys just look like the main cast of an anime to anyone else?

>>55280212
Both are colorful, make loud screeching noises, are ugly, and incredibly annoying. So my vote is yes.

>>55279895
Necromunda Eschers might be a good base for the groupies when they come out

>>55280202
Nearly wiping out is irrelevant. It took like 30 years or something for Ultramarines to be back to full Chapter strength after the Battle of Macragge (proven by I AM CATO SICARIUS invading Damnos). Imperial Fists have been wiped out by Orks. Blood Angels are literally the whipping boys of the setting, they've been nearly wiped out 3 times.

>>55280214
Not shitting on you my dude
Just saying they are pretty crap for what they cost

>>55280188
Is that Assholetep?

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>>55280188
She'll be included in my next army photo, these were the quick snaps I got when I finished her. Fuck painting faces.

>>55280246
Chk'rrrrrr

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>>55280244
Didn't the Blood Angels almost get wiped out by Tyranids twice?

>>55280250
Does she have fucking eyeshadow anon?

>>55280261
Emperor save me

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>>55280246
>sees Assholetep
>not 100% sure it's Assholetep
>planet devoid of life the next day

>>55280165
I think you'd be better off fitting asurmen in there if you're going that deep into dire avengers

>>55280264
Yes. One of their Chapter Masters came up against the largest Space Hulk to date and sent his entire Chapter in to clear it only to realise there were tens of billions of genestealers in it. They managed to blow it but only 75 BA were left.

Next time they were nearly wiped out by the Black Legion because BA's got lured into fighting them and I think only 100 or something survived, which left Dante as the highest ranking officer so he got CM just because nobody else was left.

Then in Devestation of Baal, 30,000 Space Marines from BA's and their successors kill tens if not hundreds of billions of Nids for the longest wave number in history (they survived 19 waves before the 20th would kill them) and only got saved by Girlyman. 5 Chapter Masters died. If we go on the 1,250 being the number of every chapter, then there were 24 chapters there.

Irrelevant as Cawl had huge vats of Primaris to give them, it was a way of justifying switching to all Primaris as BA's since BA are GW's best sellers.

>>55280291
My God what I have done

>>55280166
>Does the T'au Empire's rise in the galaxy equal, or is greater than the arrival of the Tyranids?
In terribleness? sure. But only from an outside perspective, rather than in-universe.

Tau fluff has pretty much only gone downhill. When the books changed from "Codex: Tau" to "Codex: Tau Empire" was pretty much the exact moment they started shitting the bed.

feels pretty bad, since I dug their original premise a whole lot

>>55280303

>Irrelevant as Cawl had huge vats of Primaris to give them, it was a way of justifying switching to all Primaris as BA's since BA are GW's best sellers.

To the contrary, this largely eliminates the Black Rage.

>>55280345
Yeah that shit was odd. Girlyman gets all picky and starts moaning about SW and BA when he speaks to Not!Cawl. Cawl just goes 'lol they look the same but everything else is gone'. Which kinda defeats the point of BA's, doesn't it? Pretty much every major chapter got crushed in order to justify Primaris reinforcements. Even White Scars have their Chapter Master 'missing' with the assumption Ko'roso Khan will take the mantle.

>>55280291
>Assholetep
Just read 1d4chan
Funny, but what's the chk'rrrr supposed to be?

>>55280134
Should I make all of them noisy boys or just one squad of 10 out of the 30?

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>>55280364
I'll be interested to see how this gets handled in the blood angels codex.

>>55280376
His eyes are like those old shutter lens cameras.

>>55280376
Camera Eye. Used specifically to capture the sad surprised and infuriated visage of whoever he nigs.

>>55280397
Well the invasion of Baal has a novel out before it, so we might see there.

>>55280364

>Which kinda defeats the point of BA's, doesn't it?

Don't you want Primaris-sized Sanguinary Guard?

On the other hand, I can see this being a major point of contention for the veterans of the tyrannic war. You fought to near death, then you got these random motherfuckers who don't even have to deal with the Black Rage. Primaris will be segregated and treated like second class citizens with BAs and successors, despite being better in every way save experience.

>>55280199
HQ:
Creed/Kell
Pask

Troops:
50 bodies
Elites:
Commissar
Callidus Assassin
Command Squad

Heavy Support:
3 HWTs
3 LRBT

I'd say you could run Pask and 3 tanks as a Spearhead, yes.

You can do a Battallion with the Commissar as a LORD COMMISSAR and Creed. If you can, use the Commissar as Yarrick and you can get double benefit from your orders (Since you get free re-roll 1s).

Run Kell, 4 Command Squad guys as special weapons. Probably plasma.
Take 2 10 man squads with Lascannons.
Run a 30 man conscript blob.

>>55280275
Yes. It's Druchii Violet.

>>55280387
THINGS NEED TO BE LOUD! THEY NEED TO VERY LOUD ALL OVER THE PLACE!

>>55280129
so fuggin cool

>>55280426
Oh, I have 3 leman russes total, including whichever tank I run kell(or proxy him as a tank commander) in.

>>55280420
Oh I do, but the whole point of BA was fighting urges, doing good, avoiding doing bad, fighting so you're remembered for the good you do, not the bad. So on, so forth.

You had the plot of Corbulo trying to find a cure and it turns out Cawl cured it ages ago.

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>>55279961
Actually, Ben Counter remembered them. And he didn't just include them in some footnote about *other* warbands attending some kind of event but rather included them as the military force of the antagonist, a daemon princess of slaanesh. It was a really fun and memorable read, although it drags its feet in the beginning because it opens up about a Barbarian named Golgoth leading an ambush on the caravan of an enemy tribe, and even though the cover features the Word Bearers, they're actually just a side story that doesn't become relevant until the end of the book while most of it centers around Golgoth organizing a war against the daemon princess. So yeah, I felt blindsided. But if you know that going in it will be a much better read.

>>55280292
+Asurmen

-Farseers Singing Spears (save 14pts)
-1 Dire Avenger (to fit him into the transport)
-4 Shuriken Cannon Windriders

Ouch, is that really worth it?

>>55280420
I suspect it won't happen, but they could write some really good stories with that dynamic.

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>>55280453

A priest can't find a scientific answer. If anything, this development should convince Corbula to establish a new order of sanguinary techpriests.

>>55280430
Good lord

>>55279854
Horrors. Everywhere

>>55280469
++4 on all your avengers in range and his own killing power seems worth it to me

>>55280341
How do you figure?

>>55279901
You gotta paint them sons of malice colors, quartered black and white with silver trim! The only true chaos space marines in service of the one true chaos god!

>>55280486
But he was the High Sanguinary Priest, which is just Head of the Apothecorion. Which is dealing with blood. He's a scientist and works with the gene-seed of the BA's for hundreds of years. The fluff had him find treatments but never a cure (the cure he did find was eaten by the Nids before he got it). I don't think a Tech Marine would help. Simply that Cawl had 10,000 years, an entire Forge World to use, unlimited resources and access to the original gene-seed, Emperor's own research, supplies and so on.

Blood Angels were given the red thirst either on purpose or it was gotten via Warp shenanigans. The Black Rage was because BA's are the 2nd most psychic legion after the Thousand Sons.

>>55280510
Also, on Wave Serpents, I gave them ALL the upgrades. Is that a waste of points?
Crystal Targeting Matrix - 5pts: No heavy movement penalty if shooting nearest unit
Spirit Stones - 10pts: 6+ FNP
Star Engines - 10pts: 2d6 Advance
Vectored Engines - 10pts: -1 to enemy shooting attacks when tank makes an advance move

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>>55280188
Good old lieutenant Two Helms

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>>55280188
these are the only guys who see the field regularly.
RIP in pieces once-useful close combat characters

>>55280524

Not that faggot, but they are comparatively the thumb trying to shove its way up the asscrack of the Imperium. They haven't gotten any bigger, they've constantly survived Tyranids because Farsight is plot armor for an entire race, and the only things they can brag about in terms of battlefield of evolution are bigger robots.

And yet, GW and fans continue to make the rest of us believe that they are a force to be reckoned with. They aren't.

>>55280532

But hes treating it from a different approach. Cawl's approach is nuke the problem at the genetic level before you even start. Corbulo is trying to get rid of it in fully developed Astartes. Of course Corbulo won't find a cure, because the infection is too far gone by that point.

>>55280542
>You there! Where's your helmet?
Uhhh
>Do not worry! I have a spare.

Alright tg. For my Ork army. Should I go with <deathskulls> or go with the idea for a "my dudes" idea I have been playing with. <ard moonz> black paint scheme, bad moons icon. Ork klan that is militarily minded like goffs, with the teeth of bad moonz, think they are vastly better than other Orks because of this.

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Q'orl when?

>>55280599
Always go <Your Dudes> when you can. Always.

>>55280588
Except he did find a cure, it's just it was removed before he could get it.

>>55280115
All the marine books have basically just made them better with no downsides, so I'm guessing all the other factions' books will be all downsides to balance things out.

>>55280599
Doing a scheme that doesn't put them in a particular official clan will give you the most flexibility to choose which clan you like once the Codex with it's various subfaction bonuses comes out.

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>>55280626
Except for when the ideas are terrible

>>55280599
If I started Orkz, I'd make my own custom warband named the Stuff Stealaz.

>>55280592
He's a true leader of men, no silly bare heads on his watch

>>55280115

Three new character HQs, one belonging to Dark Admech, and one new elite model unit.

>>55280115
The only thing to get nerfed so far is Brimstone Horrors. Basically everything else has gotten no changes or gotten better.

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>>55280188
Check out my new Malefic Lord, guys!

>>55280599
Deathskullz

alright, so here's what I have:

BATTALION:
HQ
>Creed(70 pts)
>Lord Commissar(plasma pistol)(59 pts)

TROOPS
>3 Infantry Squads(45 pts each, with voxcasters)

ELITES
>1 Callidus Assassin(80 pts)


>Spearhead Detachment
HQ
>Tank Commander(229 pts) - in Leman russ battle tank, with heavy stubber, lascannon, heavy bolters

HEAVY SUPPORT
>Leman Russ Battle Tank(186 pts) - hunter-killer missile, heavy bolters, storm bolter
>Leman Russ Battle Tank(180 pts) - heavy bolters, storm bolter
>heavy weapons twam(60 pts) - 2 lascannon, 1 heavy bolter)

total, 999 pts, +4 command points

>>55280619

The fuck is a Q'orl?

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>>55280619
Fuck the q'orl. Umbra when?

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>>55280696
Umbra? More like Lame-bro, Enslavers when?.

>>55280670
Space Spiders.

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>>55280686
It's two P'nts combined. Four Q'orts make a Ga'lon.

>>55280676
I don't know much about guard but an eversor seems like more bang for the buck than the callidus

>>55280241
Just took a look at them and some of the other necromunda stuff. Definitely all look like they have potential.

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>>55280730
I did it for fluff. I'm making all my big characters members of COBRA. I have my Callidus painted as Storm Shadow.

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>>55280670
Nice and horrible. Could very easily become pornographic.

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>>55280716

Jesus fucking christ kill the fuck out of it.

Furthermore fuck the Q'orl. Nids rule all.

>>55280129
The thermal jet array is kind of confusing. Does the Pistol D6 mean that it should basically be: D6 units are hit D6 times? Or is it "all units within 6" are shot at D6 times and suffer D6 hits for each successful shot"?

>>55280730
More bang for the buck is basically all the eversor is fluffwise and crunchwise.

>>55280735
pale deathguard are so much better than the green ones.

>>55280769
Patrician taste desu

>>55280735
Is the ink still wet on that

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>>55280759
>tyranids, dumb space dinosaurs who just eat stuff
>q'orl, awesome space spiders who build and maintain an empire

Q'orl are the cool bug race that we deserve, not those dumb animals

>>55280676
Not enough bodies.

Tanks: Drop the HKs, heavy stubbers. Run them as straight battle tanks with a hull LasC, and sponson bolters.

Drop the plasma pistol from the commissar.

Take a Sgt and make him a Platoon Commander.

Run a Command Squad with 4 Plasma Guns.
Drop the Vox Casters
Take 20 Conscripts, and 2 10 man Infantry Squads.

Your main guns are gonna be backfield with 36" range for shooting down your mid-tier threats and you'll have 5 Lascannon shots to deal with heavy armor.

The rest of your army will be footslogging toward objectives and/or screening your tanks against deep strikes. You can save points by dropping creed down to a regular Company Commander and buy some special weapons for your basic squads, or run everything in a single Battalion Detachment if you wanna play gunlines.

>>55280730
at callidus is good for fucking with command points and shanking a character, but it's gonna die immediately after that.

Why is the eversor the toughest to kill of all the other assassins and yet it's the one you want to die the most?

>>55280524
start of the tonal shift away from small backwater alien conglomerate
extreme focus on specific named characters rather than the collective accomplishing things

I like the 4e book. It's still got the good stuff. But that's where all the problems started. 5e is just when it became obvious.

>>55280716
wait, do they put bugs in your brain? Thought it was just psychic stuff. There's also basically no information about them because GW hates all the cool shit in their setting so perhaps its just artistic license.

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>>55280794

Keep it up ya fuck and I'm gonna eat ya all.

>>55280188

These poor necrons are screaming in thirst for a nuln oil wash.

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>>55280786
was an OLD screen shot, heres a more recent screen shot (i did eventually fill in the eyes of the skull on the axe dont yell at me)

>>55280841
>dont yell at me
YOU'RE A GOD DAMNED DISGRACE TO YOUR PARENTS
White guard best guard

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>>55280817
you couldn't even eat the blood angels, how are you gonna eat the much superior q'orl? Who now have warp tech so are gonna be be fucking the imperium right up the ass (something you still can't do).

>>55280794
>space dinosaurs
Nope. Space Dinosaurs are Exodite Eldar.

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>>55280869
Nope. Chaos Space Marines.

>>55280868
>eat the Blood Angels
30,000 Space Marines and their armour in defensive positions is a bit tougher to kill than you think. Call me when Q'orl aren't just a footnote in 'a thing' that GW made.

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all these faggots thinking they have a chance with their dumb minor xeno's

GW is gonna release the Hrud and they're going to make them space skaven. Why? Because skaven are popular and we all know how many people would jump at the idea of ratmen in space.

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>>55280878
Nope! Exodites!

>>55280807
Vindi is pretty tough what with the character rule and extreme range

Last reminder to USE ALL YOUR SOUL GRINDERS! ALL GUNS BLAZING!

>>55280899
Possibly, GW is going to start with Demiurg for T'au allies. I wouldn't be surprised if GW makes a Xeno Mercenaries codex to allow you to use them with your armies.

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>>55280858
Ill show you a disgrace

>>55280769
This is known.

>>55280804
alright, thanks mate.

>>55280868

Is it just me or does the idea of assembling these spindly fucks as models sound like ass?

Also in all seriousness what do you guys think the next xenos race will be?

If I start ordering some Victoria notcadians, will GW suddenly surprise us with new plastic guard?

What is the best looking Dreadnought and why is it the Leviathan?

>>55280942
needs more wash, I can still see some of the paint you applied prior.

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>>55280902

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>>55280188

>>55279806
He's got smite with the bonus of both an invul save and if he fails his perils, you've got a decent melee fighter on the charge. Being so cheap you can field twenty of these little things and still have room for fun.

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>>55280949
No, its not just you, Putting together models with a ton of skinny bitz is the worst goddamn thing ever.

>>55280926
still 3 days left, /m/ anon

>>55280949
nah, I don't think assembly would be too tough. Now transportation? FUCK that. But we never gettin models so no worries.

Like >>55280930 said, it'll be demiurg for tau (which will bring back squats) and after than MAYBE hrud. I can't think of what else they would realistically do.

>>55280974
Yup. One day, anon. One day.

>>55280980
3 days left, for what?

>>55280930
>Demiurg
Nice dream

>>55280968
Accidentally fucked it up at first by applying a VERY poorly made oil wash, caused the acrylic shade i tried adding later to pool SUPER heavy

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>>55280980
Oh. Have a Pitz.

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>>55280994
Konor

>>55281007
How's Konor going? What's the score so far?

>>55280949
chaos eldar

>>55280960
Funny I talked to a GW employee today and he said we are more likely to get new plastic steel legion than new plastic SoB. But I feel like literally anything is more likely than plastic SoB.

>>55281023
Imperium has controlled the EU and UK ROW area for pretty much the entire week, with the UK ROW area basically going full exterminatus on Chaos all week. NA keeps jumping back and forth, though it was leaning Imperial when I checked it a little bit ago.

>>55281040
This means everything can change with SOUL GRINDERS!

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>>55281023
NA is the only region so far that's remotely competitive

the impregnable fortress is still very much pregnant

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>>55280188

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>>55280949
>what do you guys think the next xenos race will be?
I want Rak'gol

>>55281054
>>55281040
So is it 3:2 in terms of planets looking to end 4:2?

>>55281029

One of these someone will actually be who they claim to be or actually have a scoop from a GW dude.
And no one will believe him

>>55281067
Unless this weekend brings about a massive upset, probably. Who ever wins the last planet wins the entire thing anyways.

Playtester here.

Nid Stratagem:

>trigger: an opponent's unit attempts to charge a unit you control while you have a mawloc in reserve
>3CP
>mawloc can be deployed before the charge using normal mawloc rules and immediately charge the unit that triggered this.

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>>55281057
I would build a Rak'gol army so fast. Sadly that will never happen can't have something actually fun or original.

>>55281082
I shall watch for a mysterious surge from Chaos then.

>>55280199

Here's my suggestion, especially vs Nids:


Battalion Detachment +3 CP (5 total so far including Creed) [291 points]
HQ 1:
Castellan Creed-70 [Warlord]

Elite 1:
Commissar (35)
Bolt Pistol-1
Power Sword-4

Troop 1: (90)
30x Conscripts - 90 points

Troop 2: (48)
Infantry Squad -40
1x Plasma Gun -7
Sergeant with Bolt Pistol -1

Troops 3: (48)
Infantry Squad -40
1x Plasma Gun -7
Sergeant with Bolt Pistol

Spearhead: +1 CP
HQ: Knight Commander Pask-177 (221)
Punisher Gatling-20
3x Heavy Bolters-24

Heavy Support 1:
Leman Russ-132 (176)
Battlecannon-22
3x Heavy Bolters-24

Heavy Support 2:
Leman Russ-132 (176)
Battlecannon-22
3x Heavy Bolters-24

Heavy Support 3:
Heavy Support Team
2x Lascannons
1x Heavy Bolter

I got lazy but you need 1 more HQ for your primary detachment. Thats about as good as it's gonna get. I probably wouldn't use the Callidus.

>>55281089
'fun and original'
t. Guy who joined 40k in 2014 and is 'bored' by the 'no variety' in GW's lineups

This has been an increasingly common shitpost.

>>55281057
>>55281089
what army would make the most sense as counts-as? We never getting official shit but that don't mean we cant pretend.

>>55280115
A cheap hq choice and transports would be nice. I dont think were getting a transport though.

>>55281087
Nice try
but also fuck off

>>55281072
This isn't some inside scoop I was just asking the question about why the Steel Legion are still pewter and he said that based on sales adding a new plastic guard line would be more profitable than plastic SoB because the historically sell like shit.

>>55281087
I'm tryna keep our "leakers" straight
What do Orks and Tau get?

>>55281108
They're not particularly hi-tech, deadly up close and they're reasonably numerous. Orks maybe?

>>55280763
I think RAW it does d6 shots at d6 hits for each unit within 6", but I'm almost certain that RAI is just d6 hits on everything within 6".

>>55281127

Any more sales tidbits? I like hearing about that stuff.
Preferably about xenos and things non marine

>>55281104
I actually don't mind the current line up. In all honesty I think making a new xeno line would be a bit of a money sink on GW's part because xenos are not that big of sellers. I just really like Rak'gol and I am really sad to see them go when the contract with FFG ended.

>>55281135
Farsight Enclaves get a unique marker light table that's less focused on the missiles.

Orks get looted vehicles and the ability to overcharge basically anything.

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>>55280188

Vanquisher tank commander

inb4 use pask

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>>55279945

>>55281152
I think GW would be stupid to not do a Xeno's Collective Mercenary type thing. Do 1 or 2 units of various races and see which sell the best.

>>55280763

You know, thinking about the RAW is kind of hilarious because if you mistakenly assaulted it within 6", it would go berserk and just shit fire one everything and potentially doing 36 hits per unit within 6" of it

>>55281161
Looks like you had a barrel of fun painting that.

>>55281108
nids. Run regular ones as warriors and the larger variants as whatever the fuck.

>>55280188
nigga base your shit

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>>55279952

I love this meme... here's a (you)

>>55281157
Yes I remember you
I've been really hopeful the looted vehicle rule wasn't bs.
That and Enclaves melee suits would be cool

>>55281029
Not that I disagree, but unless you mean literally talking to someone who works in the office at Nottingham, they know even less than we do.

>>55281150
Armies that people really want and talk about all the time are terrible sellers 9 times out of 10. He said he's not expecting the Ynnari to sell that well because of this same. Also Squats are never coming back he really emphasized that.

>>55281183
I did. it and every other leman russ in the army.

armor guard hasn't been good for several editions but that won't stop me

>>55281189
nice Space Wolf

>>55281189
>You! Unhand me!
>Already done, sir.

Who else that plays Thousand Sons runs a sorcerer in terminator armor with their scarab occults? Am I the only one?

I shamelessly self-insert as the terminator sorcerer

>>55281152
Xenos sell fine
Damn marines-or-nothing shitters

>>55281192
Oh yeah I agree most of this is just estimation based on patterns he has seen in the past 20 years, none of this in concrete facts from the mouth of Kevin Rountree.

>>55281127
>>55281196
Unless you were in Nottingham HQ talking to the design team, the dude is fucking bullshitting you. My mate is a large GW manager and he said that anytime somebody goes 'oh i talked to my mate who works for GW and he said X' are bullshitting because managers at GW stores don't get told SHIT. At BEST they know 2 weeks before hand because they get material to put up in their store. They do not know sales, they do not know development, they do not know rules.

The only people who do work for Nottingham HQ.

>>55281215
>tau sell fine
ftfy

>>55281213
Most likely, yes. Are you that same anon that desperately wants to charge with scarab occult as soon as possible?

>>55281196
What factions do people talk about a lot other than sisters sell poorly?
Thanks
And how do Orks/Tau/Necrons fair?

>>55281191
It is bullshit, but it's fun to hope.

>>55280536
>Is that a waste of points?

yes

>>55281261
I know. The desperation for info

>>55281255
Ork do fine I'll have you know

>>55280188
thin your paints, ffs.

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>tfw newfag to 40k
>go into my store to check out the community
>start talking to a guy painting some guardsmen
>asks what army I'm interested in
>"I think the tau look cool, I like that they do real science n stuff too"
>"great. another weeb, you know they suck now right?"
>dont have response, watch some guys play for a bit then leave

why are we here /tg/? Just to suffer? is it so wrong that I like a thing?

>>55281314
Don't listen to the assholes like that
Everyone's store has a couple of loud mouth know it alls

>>55281256
Charge with scarab occult? Well I mean I like my shooty stuff so I dunno...

I like being kool aid man more with the scarab termies.

>want to get grey knight bitz to build a brotherhood champion and to give my razorback gunners grey knights helmets
>nearly every single online bitz shop is sold out
Just fuck my life up

>>55281259
One he said was Admech while it didn't sell poorly it did not do as well as he expected based on the amount it was talked about. And Tau and Orks are always big sellers(tau especially), and necrons seems to be in the middle or low end. Basically what you would expect. Sorry I don't have more but talking about the internal sales of GW wasn't really the point of the conversation.

>>55281314
you've learned an important lesson early on; 90% of the time game store communities are trash, when you've got a group of friends to actually play games with it gets so much better.

>>55281314
>guardsmen
>why play that army they suck
Damn. WAAC migrate fast.

>>55281314
That guy was just a dick.

Almost nobody here likes Tau either, but they don't bully people over their army choices. Except for the bantz of course, but everybody does that to everybody (and people joke about their own army)

>>55281314
He just sounds like a faggot desu.

so what's the deal with IG Orders?

They say they happen in the shooting phase but do they follow the same rules as shooting? Can I issue an order to one unit, activate that unit and shoot, and then issue another order with the same commander or do I have to issue both at once?

>>55281314
My FLGS had a lot of WAAC-types until the store owner kicked them out for driving so many potential new players away from the hobby. A lot more casual now. It's nice.

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Seems like painting orks for 8 hours is a good way to work through an anxiety attack

that and chain smoking

>Magnus intro: tells his sons to shut up and help him get shit done. Results in Great Rift and his planet being transported into Materium
>Mortartion intro: acts chuuny and stalks rando Primarines, leading into him getting BTFO from Konor

Manlets, ladies and gentlemen.

>>55281314
Ask him what a weeb is and ask if it's similar to IGfaggots.

>>55281343
Well we bully WAAC fags but that's because they don't actually pick an army.

>>55281314

>The real life story of things that never happened

No one does this to knew players, or people they don't know. I know there are total autists in the hobby, but the ones that do shit like that are banned from the stores, because they are bad for business.

>>55281334
You don't have any leftover bits? Half my bitsbox is leftover GK bits, and I have two other armies.

>>55281197
What has been your experience playing with Lemans this edition? I've been hearing they're sub-par, discouraging since I want to have LRBTs as the core of the list with some artillery and occasionally mechanized infantry to mix things up.

>>55281373
>No one could possible be an asshole IRL

You might be surprised, senpai

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It's kind of sad to see the Fate of Konor fall flat. Everyone knew it was going to be this way when they pitted the most played faction in 40k against one of the least played, and then let all the xenos players choose which side to take points from. I mean aside from Imperium players outnumbering chaos players like 10-1, they also tend to be more WAAC, as exemplified by the first 3 as well as the final planet being fought over. I must admit, though, there are enough decent Imperial players out there that they actually threw chaos a bone. It's like Tyson letting Little Mac hit him twice after the crowd started getting bored before he wrapped things up with the knockout that everyone knew was coming. As much as I want to say GW rigged this from the start, letting the players pull the lever themselves reminds me that roughly half of the entire 40k community have no sense of narrative tension whatsoever. 40k is their own Saturday morning cartoon on permanent repeat.

>>55281338
Thanks
Eh, sales anecdotes is more interesting than your initial SoB redundant remark

>>55280115
I just want the old Rad Poisoning rule back. I'd also like plasma calivers to get their 3rd shot back but I doubt that will happen with the lack of gets hot on normal firing. 3 shots on overcharge would be neat though.

>>55281368
He's not even in Konnor anymore. He had to withdraw with the majority of his forces to defend his conquered territory from a Magnus-lead invasion of Thousand Sons and Tzeentch daemons.

>>55281384
This is a hobby full of people with poor social skills. But the ones who a actually nasty are told to leave, or made to feel unwelcome until they leave.

>>55281399
For real? Tzeentch dubs so not sure if that statement can be trusted to be true ...

>>55281374
I used up all the helmeted heads because I hate painting bare faces, obviously I don't have any more legs or justicar shoulder pads or torsos because all of them are required for a 5 man squad. I have a set of arms and a force sword I set aside for the Champion and I used two of the remaining front torsos to build the Razorback gunners I have but I'm missing most of the parts required for the Champion and the heads for the gunners.

>>55281386
Yeah I will say it is but I was trying to get info on SoB rumors for a friend who wants to get into the hobby and wants to play them. He said he might just cave and do the pewter models so gods speed to him on that front.

>>55281385
Kind of funny how it suddenly went back to being a one-sided stomp once Tallyman stopped fudging the numbers. There's not even anything about this week's mission that particularly favors the Imperium. It's just take and hold.

>>55281373
here's the problem though. You're probably right, and these kinds of stories get some good (you)'s so its not too shocking to find out that plenty of them are fake. But if its NOT, and we call it out as bullshit, we potentially just lost a new player in the hobby. I'd rather give some faggot you's than have someone quit before starting. You know what I mean?

Has /tg/ had any luck running CWE with a batallion? My lgs is running a tournament in the next couple weeks that requires a batallion or brigade in an attempt to tone down cheese lists (yeah, I don't know how it nerfs IG conscripts or brimstone's either). Anyway, point is I don't run troops in my CWE army because they don't seem to do much. Does anyone have advice on how to run them that actually works now that I need 3! to run a legal list?

>>55281433
It's not even take and hold. It's just take and destroy. It's a bit tilted towards the attacker since all you have to do is capture an objective once and you've destroyed it though the defender gets free daemon summoning stratagem but I know several players who don't use it because it feels weird summoning daemons as a non-chaos army.

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So I ran this list today at the LGS, I won against death guard and onlookers said it looked good, but I'd still take suggestions. Crimson Fists sans Pedro felt strange.

Battalion: 6 CP
+HQ+
Terminator Captain: Storm Shield, Fist of Vengance -132
Jump Chaplain: Bolt Pistol -90
Lieutenant: MC Boltgun, Powerfist -75
+TROOPS+
Tactical Squad: Powerfist, Bolpistol, Flamer, Heavy Bolter -161
Tactical Squad: Powerfist, Boltpistol, Flamer, Heavy Bolter -161
Tactical Squad: Powerfist, Boltgun, Flamer, Heavy Bolter -161
Tactical Squad: Combiplas, Plasmagun, Plasmacannon -161
+ELITE+
Assault Terminators: 2 LC, 3 TH/SS -242
+FAST+
Assault Squad: Powerfist, Flamer x2 -160
+HEAVY+
Crusader: Multi Melta -314
Whirlwind: Vengeance -109
+TAXI+
Rhino -72
Rhino -72
Rhino -72

2000 on the head. The Assault squad didn't do so hot, even with twenty tacticals backing them. The Chaplain was worth his weight in gold. I was worried about the Crusader package, but they don't die as easily as I remember. The captain was amazing, between him and the Lt. the crusader and terminators become machines. Typhus died to the whirlwind. I can quite cram in two typhoons if I drop the assault marines and chaplain, and swap the Lt. to axe/BP. Alternatively, I can drop to Castellans and swap the MC bolter for a storm bolter.

>>55281476
Don't forget that you actually need to already own plaguebearer/plague drone models which a ton of xenos or non-nurgle daemons players don't have.

No one in my store owned any, let alone used them on game night.

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>>55280670
B-Brother?!

Holy fucking shit guys. So, I had this awesome first game. My opponent made a bet, since I was playing Blood Ravens and he was playing Raven Guard. The bet was that if I won, since it was my first game, he would give me some bits to represent weapons 'gifted' to my Blood Ravens. I managed to win by one point, my opponent had a third party guy keeping track of points and that was what he told me.

So fucking excited, got some cool bits to give my guys some flavor. My next opponent is a Blood Angels player and I hope to be gifted more relics. That game will be on the 20th. Man, the local 40k group seems a hell of a lot more awesome than the WAAC MTG group at the FLGS.

>>55281497
That hadn't even occurred to me.

>>55281495
Fucked it up. Plasma squad is 179 and has a Chainsword.

>>55281514
40k is generally a LOT more of a relaxed environment than card games.

t. someone who used to play MTG and yugioh.

Have fun!

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>>55281514
Just a bunch of happy loyalist space marines killing each other

>>55280619
Fucking never I hope

>>55281497
If you're not playing in a GW store you can just proxy them with different models. Either way the stratagems this week are shit since literally all of them revolve around models and terrain that not everyone owns, though at least you can more easily count some tree terrain as deathworld terrain. It's the most blatant "please buy our shit" week yet.

>>55281514
So true to fluff the other guy doesn't even know of the bet and the loss of bits?

>>55281514
What's the chaos equivalent of the Blood Ravens?

The legion that steals everything?

>>55281514
>tfw my FLGS is full of metagaming waacfaggots
Feels awful

>>55281440
I agree with you. If these stories are true, it is truly fucked that someone would do this to a new player. This hobby only get better with the more people we welcome into it. I just feel that this particular story is a complete fabrication to get attention.

In saying that. I have been extremely lucky with my experience in the hobby. I never met a single person who has made me question if the hobby was for me. In fact, some of the nicest people I've ever met has been through this hobby.

>>55281553
I know that feel, and it sucks balls.

>>55280599
Pro tip: Klanz is the equivalent to "Legion" or "First founding chapter". <Your dudez> are more likely to be a tribe, warband, or whatever else you want to call it. It might be part of a klan, or not be affiliated with any particular klan.

>>55281552
Red Corsairs? Ahriman's warcoven of Thousand Sons? Night Lords?

>>55281417
>made to feel unwelcome until they leave.
You might be overestimating the ability to pick up social cues some of them have

>>55281547
>>55281517
Not a big deal anyway. Most of the stratagems in Konor haven't been all that good anyway. I think I used 2 mission specific ones. One was the double casting one.

>>55281536
Nah, it was just laser tag like in that ultrasmurf horus heresy short

>>55281563
Every single player no exceptions is a spammer. There's one guy who spams sniper scouts with Guilliman and lascannons everywhere. There's another guy who plays World Eaters and spams fucking Havocs of all things. That's the store owner. There's another guy who fields commander drone spam backed by hammerhead spam. There's another guy who spams those space wolf dogs with that one special character that buffs their leadership as a wall to protect his wulfen and a bunch of thunderwolf guys. Shit's a nightmare.

>>55281559
Worst I have dealt with is MtG players being assholes, anyone in the actual hobby is pretty good, sure we give each other shit for their armies but it's more like playful banter not actual bulling. And you really only want to banter with someone that knows their lore new players will both not get the joke and feel attacked.

>>55281596
Wouldn't alpha legion+ havoks be better spam?

>>55281596
>World Eater Havocs
...why? Ignoring the fluff issues, what about World Eaters improves Havocs?

>>55281575
Do the night lords gleefully steal from other legions and loyalists?

There are some fun things you can do with their legion tactics this edition. Could be a fun army to build.

>>55281314
Are you a tranny coincidentally?

>>55281609
>>55281619
I don't even know honestly. His idea of a fluffy 2k list is a Lord, 3 Havocs, 2 Bloodthirsters and a Knight with dual battle cannons. Makes me want to shoot myself.

>>55281596
Suicide is always an option.
Better than dealing with that shit.

>>55281619
>fluff issues
There is none. They worship Khorne, Khorne doesn't care if a gun kills or a melee kills.

>>55280570

I've said it before and I'll say it again; everything wrong with the Tau fluff could be solved by having the Expansion Spheres be Dyson Spheres. Suddenly the Tau are a legitimate threat to the whole galaxy, they can field ridiculous sized armies, their lack of FTL travel doesn't hinder them since lone systems can fight off whole Crusades or Hive Tendrils and it even fits the whole high tech theme of the Tau.

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>>55281596
Put your LGS logo on cans of it and hand them out over the weekend

>>55281596
That is actually kinda funny.
When everyone is equally going all out it isnt as bad as one guy stomping on fluffy lists

>>55281621
They make their living stealing and killing, yeah. No one is as much of a thief as the Blood Magpies though.

>>55281621
NL love to fuck over other warbands, including each other. There are hardly any more treacherous cunts around than they are.

>>55281649
Where does the Blood Ravens stealing meme come from? My last contact with them was during the Space Marine shooter

>>55281662
DoW2 and their >earned relic collection

>>55281662
In Dawn of War you can get relics that comes from a verity of sources including chaos and castodes and the only explanation is that it was "gifted to the chapter". Thus the joke is that they stole it and pretended it was a gift.

>>55281662
Item descriptions from Dawn of War II. They have a shitload of relics from other chapters that there isn't really a reasonable explanation for them to have other than they stole it.

It was done by the Game Devs simply to give the loot drops some variety and flavor, but it became a meme that the Blood Ravens routinely steal everything that isn't nailed down whenever they encounter another Space Marine chapter.

>>55281630
Dual battle cannons is also worse than dual rotary guns.

Also it's not technically world eaters since supreme command requires 3 hqs, and spearhead requires 1hq 3hs and his Knight is a low. Wait. Are there two auxiliary detachments here or are you forgetting the rest of his models?

So... plastic sisters when? Or were the "plastic sisters" GW alluded to celestine alone?

Newfag here. I want to run inquisition, but just wanted to clarify. Since everything in the actual inquisition army is either an hq or elite, I would need to grab troops from other imperial factions, correct? Since everything would share the imperium keyword it's still legal in matched play?

>>55281736
Everytime you shit up the thread with"spastic sisters when" GW delays it another year

>>55281636
True, but it's still an odd way to build a list.

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>>55281662

>>55281674
>>55281686
>>55281697
Oh, I see. Fucking magpies indeed

>>55281730
I believe he did 1 spearhead with the Lord and Bloodthirster A, and then 1 LoW auxilliary and 1 HQ auxilliary with the second Bloodthirster. Or something. Don't really remember because this was the week the CSM codex came out.

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>be me
>been reading warhammer shit and playing the games for years
>finally decide to nut up and buy some models
>spend the next few months reading up on the rules and painting my orks
>finally time to go and play with my 1.5k army
>excited
>get there and right off the bad get eyebrows singed off by horrible body odor
>wave my way through the stank like a marine through nurgle fog
>get to back and start looking for someone to play with
>ask a dude if he wants to play
>mom comes out of nowhere, "YEAH he would love to play!!"
>ask him what point his army is and try to make small talk while i get my orks out of a god damn shoebox
>says nothing and squirms in place
>dude is 12 with purple and green hair
>his little brother keeps taking my orks and asking me what they do and what they are
>try to ask him how he wants to play and stuff while getting my orks back from this insane ass kid
>his mom comes over and starts asking him what hes doing and why he isn't playing yet like everyone else
>they start fighting and it becomes apparent the kid doesn't even want to be here
>mom starts making an example of what he should be doing by taking my orks and his marines and putting them randomly all over the table
>sit in awe for a moment before seeing my chance, and taking my orks back and heading to the car
>mission failure, never again

But I did, just got back and whoa nelly. Part 2 coming if anyone gives a hoot

>>55281736
If ever, likely when Sisters get their codex sometime next year. If not then, then the Emperor himself will get a plastic 40k model before SoB do.

>>55281747

No anon, I'm new to the hobby. Genuinely curious as to what they're doing with this army. Are they gonna axe it or what?

>>55281649
Relictors got excommunicated for their rampant thievery, those theirs was a lot more chaos focused

>>55281747
>spastic sisters is autistic and thinks everybody is the same person
Taking the Carnac Shitposting manual to heart, are we?

>>55281777
Emperor is getting a model in 30k, so it's not unlikely.

>>55281784
Blood Ravens are aslo well acquainted with the taint of Chaos.

>>55281773
...where the fuck do you live? This sounds exponentially worse than my WAACfag FLGS story

>>55281797
>sister posters always shit up the threads with plastic sisters
>anyone that complains is carnac

Seriously kill yourself

>>55281773
Continue

>>55281825
Re-read what I said. You're obviously so furious you can't actually read what people post.

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>>55281825
>guy says 'Carnac Shitposting manual'
>he never says you were Carnac
>he literally implied you copied his trick of calling every poster the same person
>HUR DUR FAGET KILL URSELF LMAO ECKS DEE XDDD U SAID I WAS CARNAC

Howling at you right now lad, howling.

>>55281867
>>55281855

Taking everything literally is a sign of autism, my friendos

>>55280364
Wait did anything happen to the dark angels?

>>55281825
>shits up the thread
>he made one post
The only one shitting up the thread is you, next time ignore it if it triggers you.

>>55281867
>>55281855
>>55281797
Don't reply to obvious shitposters, report and ignore.