Exalted General - /exg/

>>55271359
this is a cute exalted
i wanna headpat her

>>55271359

>Which combat ability do you use, why?

Martial Arts. Often like the thematics.

>Which defence ability do you use, why?

Often dodge, as it works with MA unlike Melee.

>What do you think of Celestial Bliss Trick?

Overrated

>>55271627
How do you feel about MA/Brawl separation in 3e?

>>55271858

Wondering why the fuck it didn't happen sooner.

I'm sad I can no longer use Heaven Thunder Hammer on nearly all MA's, but now MA is good for once and Brawl let's me play as Jotaro, so I ain't complaining.

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Exalted.

Go punch important people in the gut, raise an army, raise a city-eating tyrant lizard, raise a cult of orphans who shoot fire from their eyes. Preach about the glories of the Sun and topple the Immaculate Order's grasp on the common man. Topple a Great Dynastic House, get yourself a Sidereal maid. What's a Sidereal? Figure that out, that'll help you a lot. See things nobody has seen in millenia, build things nobody has heard of in two. Fall in love so hard you sink a subcontinent. Marry that brown silver-tattoo'd girl at dawn and hold hands on top of the roofs of the steaming workshops of Nexus. Get fucked. Get fucked by a Deathlord and swear revenge in words so potent your eyes turn white from power. Scream "FUCK YOU!" so hard it makes demons around you explode. Try to bring her back, fail atrociously and curse the forefathers of Creation at the laws they set. Suplex a celestial lion at the gates of Heaven when they don't let you in, make a trip to the Underworld on a boat that sails faster than despair to search for her ghost. Learn to stitch spirit to flesh and turn the armies of your nemesis against him. Ride a motherfucking elemental dragon to battle and dive bomb into the Deathlord's corpse fortress so hard every pious man in the Direction falls over from fear. Go berserk. Lose your shit completely. Find yourself clutching a broken skull, drenched in blood and gore and impotent rage bleeding out of you. Sit on that same roof in Nexus and miss her so much your soul might fall into lethe. Watch the sun rise again and know that it's never going to be over for you.

>>55271972
then become the villain of the campaign

>>55269524
to expand on what this guy is saying:

intention of system: to make a major project you first break things down into a series of minor and moderate projects refining and building components.

reality of the system: skyrim's :make 10k iron daggers"

>>55271135
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>>55270882
>>55270994
exalted: no explaining things, details restrict mah snowflake's story. theres no wrong way to play.
...except yours REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>>55269541
literally or figuratively?

>>55271914
>but now MA is good for once
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
If you played your cards right you could be fucking ridiculous with MA

>>55272211
On that last part: just don't lift her veil while you do it and you should be good. Seriously, if demons veil themselves it's better not to inquire about it in any way.

Also, talking about 3cds, I should summon Madelrada to wear a cute, very short maid dress and serve drink for the next calibration party...

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>>55272211
But is Amalion or Ligier better Manse maker?

>Amalion’s preferred form is that of a massive, cube-shaped manse constructed of basalt, brass and ebony, inscribed with ten thousand secret blasphemies in beautiful, delicate script over every surface.
>mfw

>>55271627
Actually, in the Ask a Dev thread on OPP, you totally can use Melee alongside MA. You just can't use the two different abilities to boost the same action. So you can stop using MA for a turn or two while in a Form as long as it's not enhancing the same attack, or the same defense.

This includes SP form, so you can use Melee on your turn, but you have to attack with MA on your sword's turn.

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>>55272384
>Madelrada
>wear a cute, very short maid dress and serve drink for the next calibration party

>Madelrada appears as a massive woman, tall and barrel- chested, whose indigo skin absorbs the light. Her eyes gleam with blunt, authoritative intellect, and her hair is cut in a military crop. Both are dull gray and flecked with rust. At all times, she attires herself in nigh-impenetrable armor of ivory and tarnished bronze.

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>>55269198
The true issue is that the Craft XPs are spent on crafting something.

So to create a Glorious Solar Pump for your plucky princess wannabe girlfriend, you need to craft twenty wooden sandals personalized to twenty different characters, then five metal boots for your party... and then you can craft your Orichalcum high heels.

If you want to craft again, you need to start again at wooden sandals.

This is utterly broken by the very premises of the system.

>>55272241

In 2.Xe?

Unless you where Solar hero? No it was pretty much a trap option. Your native charms did better shit 9 out of 10 times. For a DB it was good, but not the others. You only took MA when you wanted to do weird shit.

>>55272098

bronze's only mistake was not killing the solars sooner. the sids spent too long arguing, by the time they acted the solars had already set the groundwork for every single apocolypse the shogonate had to deal with

>>55272531
Scroll of the Monk

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>>55272546
>by the time they acted the solars had already set the groundwork for every single apocolypse the shogonate had to deal with

Can you use Occult Excellency for Sorcery?

>>55272427

Recall that a Manse requires about 200 man years of labour per dot to raise. Amalion can raise such a Manse "With but a word" while Ligier hasn't been given any comparable abilities.

>>55272653
baloran crusade is result of contagon is result of deathlords is result of solars being assholes combined with having previously poked at the neverborn enough to wake(ish) them.

if usurpation happened before the black nadar concordant creation would be orders of magnitude larger than this remnant and dragonkings would still be a thing. (of course it does nothing to help all those other races and gods that got genocided after the primordial war, but it's still better than nothing)

>>55272730
but if you've got a couple centuries to wait then who'd make the better end result?

>>55272766
>dragonkings would still be a thing
I thought Dragon Kings got fucked in the Primordial War?

>>55272940
To be fair, some primordials fuck very aggressively

>Control Spells: All sorcerers have at least one control spell. A control spell is a signature spell at which a sorcerer excels beyond all others, imbuing it with some special measure of her mystic will and personal prowess.
>Many spells enjoy special benefits when selected as a control spell, and many shaping rituals (see below) give special benefits to a sorcerer’s control spell.
>At least one
So can you have more than one Control Spell in a Circle?

>>55272211
Shut up, dumbass. Unusual Hide is probably the stupidest thing in the book. If you want unarmored soak use Resistance or Martial Arts instead of trying to cheat the mote system. This is the same kind of shitty logic that leads to people doing workings to give themselves 10 dexterity.

>>55272940
mostly they got fucked in the aftermath as sol abandoned them for his new favorates and solars pushed them farther and farther into obscurity mostly by accident. and then the contagon raped them so hard nobody was left to uplift the new births and they're just animals now

>>55272471
I love the binding contracts

>>55272710
Yes.

>>55272940
>Dragon Kings
WE

>>55272653
>>55272546
outsider here
what are you two talking about

>>55272783
There wouldn't necessarily be any significant difference in the quality of the end result. Having either Amalion or Ligier spend a couple of centuries constructing a manse would be a colossal waste of either demon's time and talents, though. Amalion could do it much, much faster, while Ligier could spend those centuries creating things that others can't create.

>>55273561
solars are all doomed to eventually go crazy and become monsters, limitbreaking is the least of it(just the rest is too longterm to really come up in play)
the unnecessarily prejudicially named "usurpation "(seriously, where was that term during the primordial war? so solarcentric) happened more or less because it had to eventually.

there was even a prophecy about it with the choices being "lesser but safe" vs "much glory but will almost certainly destroy the world within your lifetime" so the sids and dragonbloods went with the safe path and sealed away the solars.

(lunars have a pale shadow of the solar's problem but you can see it in their elders too. siderals are a stereotypical bureaucracy and so become less competent and more factional the more of them try to work together, and dragonbloods are hardly touched at all but tend to grow into stereotypes of their element and of dynasties in general although their line is blurry as to how much is culture vs curse)

>>55273338
It's worth bearing in mind that demons are perfectly capable of being pissed off at things they were required to do once the binding is over. A 3CD may not have an easy time taking any kind of revenge, seeing as how they're trapped in Hell most of the time, but an enemy like that still isn't something to take lightly.

>>55273772
>there was even a prophecy about it with the choices being "lesser but safe" vs "much glory but will almost certainly destroy the world within your lifetime" so the sids and dragonbloods went with the safe path and sealed away the solars.
It was "Lessened but safe" vs "50/50 on either fixing everything and getting laughed out for suggesting something that obviously wasn't possible we're Solars we're fucking perfect leading to everything getting ruined"

>>55273772
so dragon blood best exalted?

>>55273871
Exigent of Little Death bext Exalted.

>>55272653
>>55272546
Okay, now stop this dumb meme rollplaying. Sidereals make terrible decisions eitherway and humans are terrible beings eitherway and solars only have more time to become more terrible.

>>55273866
>"50/50 on either fixing everything and getting laughed out for suggesting something that obviously wasn't possible we're Solars we're fucking perfect leading to everything getting ruined"
It was never stated or even suggested that it was a 50/50 chance. I'm pretty sure that 1E Sidereals book, at least, specifically said that there was a small chance of everything turning out okay if Sids tried to just guide Solars to a better path.

>>55273561
TLDR
technically inaccurate but if it helps you might think of it as: whenever you limitbreak a tiny piece of you never comes back from it. eventually you just never stop.
this process takes centuries, so even the best and most noble solars "either die heroes or live to become the villain"(for reference, see the original golden lord of ang teng).
the reason immaculates hunt all solars is because the only chance to prevent this is to kill them while they're still young. solars think they're persecuted because this means killing them while they're still heroes. the immaculate's lie is a kindness to spare the monks who preform this wholly necessary cull.
they hunt lunars because solars have them tied up with leashes so you can't have lunars hanging about growing powerful enough to stop you putting down rabid solars.

>>55273857
Don't worry, there is always a backdoor. Once you can summon her, you can take three things from her and be forever more save.
Also once you figured out a demon it's easy to play them.

>>55273871
weakest, most numerous, least crazy.
so probably the best to be running things since it's not worth losing the masterrace entirely as even corrupt bottom tier exalts are really really good at running things, and there are some problems/threats mortals simply can't handle.
...unfortunately there are also problems too big for dragonbloods(most but not quite all of which can be blamed on mad solar godkings) and it doesn't help that dragonbloods as a group are fading with time and breeding.

>>55273866
pretty sure odds were WAY worse than 50/50

>>55274081
and add on top of that that siderals have a set lifespan and carjack was told he would live to see the ending of two ages(usurpation was the first end)

>>55274095
First Ages > Age of Sorrows > Age of Tumult

>>55274247
Age of Sorrows wasn't a thing.

>Summoning: (Obscurity 2/5)
How did this shit work again?

>>55272983
One per circle.

>>55274366

Commonality of name and nature/commonality of accurate information.

RoGD2: Roster for demons and ghosts, page 25.

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>Mortal sorcerers initiate into the Terrestrial Circle by mastering a shaping ritual, which they may purchase as a five-dot Merit that requires Occult 3. The first spell they learn becomes their control spell. Most mortal sorcerers only ever attain one ritual, but at the Storyteller’s discretion, they might be able to gain more from the same sorcerous archetype, or even different ones.
So Exalted don't need to actually do the effort of getting a shaping ritual, when they gain the sorcery charm they automatically gain a shaping ritual in universe?

>>55270994
>I'm not trying to break the game, I just really like the idea of a shirtless build. I'm not planning on using armor, and I'm not gonna do any Iron Skin Concentration cheese.
Resistance has a charm for this: Diamond Body Prana.

>>55274642
Now take three guesses which charm tree that belongs to.
If you want a shirtless build, don't get hit in thefirst place.

>>55274321
It most certainly was, but I guess the last two are the same.

>>55274572
>So Exalted don't need to actually do the effort of getting a shaping ritual
They do.
>when they gain the sorcery charm they automatically gain a shaping ritual in universe?
No. Sorcery charms aren't a thing in universe (like the other charms), it just represents the fact that the character went on some kind of spirit quest and found a way to use Sorcery, the means of which is represented by the initiation they pick.

>>55272211
>intention of system: to make a major project you first break things down into a series of minor and moderate projects refining and building components

Not only is that not the intention of the system, it's cheating. A major project is a major project, not 5 basic projects strung together.

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>>55274959
5 base projects strung together BY MAKING THAT ITSELF INTO A MAJOR PROJECT

it doesn't get you out of doing a major project, its just that you aren't supposed to be nonsensically making 10k wooden desks to build craft xp for your warstrider

https://www.reddit.com/r/exalted/comments/3zd552/a_crafters_experience_with_crafting
The only craft talk that I've seen is based on actually playing the game and using it.

>>55274366
Wasn't it 2 for the likelihood you'd know enough to call it and 5 for actually knowing all the relevant lore?

>>55274247
Age of Sorrows Time of Tumult

Isn't the setting kinda mashing those two together as a single age who's name the authors didn't agree on?

Also OOC it's weird that the "first" age is at minimum actually the second but I get why it was done that way IC.

>>55273871
Best for what? If you mean "what would you choose to be irl" then I'd definitely go with dragonblood though. Both for the sanity, ability to lead a semi-normal life if we were in the exalted setting while having enough power not to be an extra since mortals are all fucked, and the dynasty feature so my kids would probably exalt too. MWAHAHA world domination.

>>55275496

The major project itself encapsulates all the work that goes into the project. It is the entirety of the project unto itself. Hence the name "major project" an not, say, "final assembly".

Parting out one job into multiple steps is even less the intent than making a bunch of footstools to prepare for building an airship.

>>55275540
Thanks a bunch, time was somewhere in my head writing that out, couldn't just place it right.

>>55272612

Which is useless because it is Scroll of the Monk. Using it in a serious context here makes people laugh at you.

>>55274682

Resistance is good, what are you talking about? I mean if he was using 2.Xe I'd understand.

So when you become exalted you become imortal?
I mean if you reincarnate it means youre imortal right?

>>55277287
>So when you become exalted you become imortal?
No, or at least Solaris don't. They live a long time though.
>I mean if you reincarnate it means youre imortal right?
Your exaltation=/=you. The next person to get it experiences some of your memories at most.

>>55277287

Exalts don't become immortal, they get infused with divine power. A "Mortal" is a person incapable of channeling essence, so an otherwise regular human who can perform sorcery is not, by definition, mortal.

Does anybody remember offhand 2e's age and essence cap rules for dragonbloods siderals and lunars? I don't have my books on hand

>>55277287
They like to call it "past self" but you've got no more in common with the exaltation's previous owner than the guy who used to own your sword. exalted has a 2 part soul, hun is reincarnated and has nothing to do with exaltations at all and po disolves into general lifeforce and is remade from scratch for each lifetime. the only exalts that has either of those in common with their so called "past life" are alchemicals(they even get *both* because autochuthon binds them to a soulgem)

it's just that solars weren't good about facing mortality so they and people who knew them like to play pretend. it helps that sometimes memories leave imprints on the exaltation that the newguy can pick up, but lytek is usually good about scrubbing stains and marks before sending them back out.
for some reason the authors seem to also like to forget this fact and treat it like you're reincarnated. /shrug

Did your character ever fell in love with a fairfolk ?

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>>55277736
Remember the rules myself? No. Remember roughly in the rulebook where they are so I can screencap it for you? Yes. Here you go.

>>55278162
Thanks. :)

I wasn't sure if they were the same for all types

Does anyone still plays this in real Life?

>>55278581
I've got a game going on where all the PCs have amnesia and they're trying to discover who they were.

I'm also working on a game with a co-ST for a huge DB game that's supposed to start next week but we don't know if we'll still be here after Hurricane Irma.

>>55278652
Wait
I tought all americans had these undergraund rooms for when hurricanes come
Also why arent you running for your life
I Pity americans one hurricane and byebye mai hause

>>55278813

South Florida has a water table 8 feet below the ground. Or 2.5 metres for you Europoors. So no underground rooms.

>>55278813
In Florida underground mostly doesn't exist, if you dig more than 10 feet you're probably hitting water.

I'm not on the coast so I'm not terribly worried, worst case we'll lose power for a while and have some flooding.

>>55272983

Why can't you have demon of the first circle or summon elemental as control spells?

>>55278858
Both of those are already so useful giving them a control spell would make them even more ridiculous. Or conversely if you nerfed them and gave them their current level of power as their Control spell bonus then literally no one would ever pick up anything other than Summon X as their Control Spells, they're that useful.

So them lacking a Control spells makes it so people actually have to make somewhat of a choice instead of just mindlessly picking up Summon spells since you aren't gaining a Control Spell bonus and maybe you could pick it up later.

so what's the deal with the abyssal's?
what are they, what created them?

>>55279472

Solar killed and imprisoned Primordials. Killed are called Neverborn and imprisoned are called Yozi.

when first age came to an end Solar Exalted became insane, corrupt etc etc. so they were all killed by Dragonblooded and Sidereal Exalted (exalts of destiny and fate). Solar souls were locked into Jade prison so they can't reincarnate.

Neverborn and Yozi said "hey you know those 300 Solars that beaten us? I heard their souls got locked up. So why don't we find a prison and corrupt their souls so they serve us?"

So they send their minions to do the jailbreak but they fuck it up. So 50% of souls are able to escape their clutches. 100 souls are corrupted into Abyssals and 50 became infernal exalted.

>>55279472

Also Solars are humans who became Exalted because they were amazing. Best of the best.

Lunars exalt when they survive or accomplish something they shouldn't have at the first place.

Abyssal exalts when they are on death's door. They are given a new chance to live (and also serve). Also they have a job of destroying the living world and remaking it in the shape of Underworld.

Inernals exalt when they failed at their destiny. For example being destined for greatness and leading the revolution and in the last moment you run away as a coward. They personify corruption. Their job is to corrupt the Creation and make it similar to Yozi/Hell. Yozi gave their oaths so they can't never enter Creation but they still yearn for it. Their plan is to make Creation in the image of Hell so they can return.

one game that executes well the idea of exalted is dominions iv its pretty fun

>>55279472
>>55280093
I'm out of the loop for 3e, but in 2e "what are they" is "disturbingly mirrored Solar Exalted." They're pretty much literally the dark to the solar's light, complete with a great deal of moral ambiguity and personal conflict.

>>55275507
to be fair they do have some house rules that clean it up a fair deal, like any weapon being basic

Random awareness charm idea:

Artistic Discernment Method
Permanent, 1-3m to activate effect
The solar is able to perfectly recognize someone from their depiction in a work of art, no matter how abstract. This also works in reverse (recognizing an artwork depicts someone they've seen before) and between artworks (such as telling that an abstract sculpture and a painting both are about the same person). The effect works with any medium and costs between 1 and 3 motes to activate, depending on the abstractness of the depiction. With the exception of their own past lives, this effect does not work across incarnations. Seeing a carving on an ancient temple wall will not alert the user that the guide that helped them the other day is actually their lunar mate, for example. If the target is disguised, the effect only applies if the solar is able to pierce the disguise.

Alternative name: Recognize the Bulge Technique

>>55278581
Anyone play this online?

>>55269541

What happens if you bang her?

What are some interesting or broken charms you never hear about?

Here is one spirit charm (from alchemials 2e):

>DENIAL OF THE FORGE’S YOKE
>Cost: 6m; Mins: Essence 4; Type: Reflexive
>Keywords: Obvious
>Duration: Scene
>This Charm is most common among metal elementals
>but is not unique to them. While the Charm lasts, the
>spirit is completely immune to damage inflicted by metal
>weapons. This protection does not extend to weapons made
>out of one of the magical materials, but a superior version
>of this Charm exists (requiring Essence 6) that does allow for such protection.

>>55281822
Nothing bad, she might try to awake your Past Life by force if you don't play along with her. You will also be effectively obliged to call upon her every year to chat about what's going on. It's going to be really weird with her all-around though. Talking to someone you've summoned for a job and she talks to you like a wife you last saw before you died on a gods-forsaken battlefield.
The whole thing where she wants to talk about events that you can sometimes, but rarely, remember. The way her Smile of Perfected Joy falters as she realizes that you are not 5 Moon, the way it recovers slightly as she reminds herself that you are the closest she will ever get.
It's weird, but tolerable.
But that's only if you have 5 Moon's Exaltation.

Yozi save you if you fuck her without being an incarnation of 5 Moons.

>>55277823
I wonder if Past Self is going to be a thing in 3e.

>>55282319
what happens if you fuck her without being 5 moons

>>55282484
The same thing if you fucked Queen Victoria after Prince Albert died.

The entire resources of a dynasty would be put towards the express use of fucking your shit up. And unlike fucking Queen Victoria after Prince Albert died, death would not be an escape.

Amalion would just bring you straight to Malfeas just so she could personally fuck your shit for all eternity. In fact, it might even be good for her to have a distraction from the futility of erecting beauty within Malfeas.

>>55282541
but it was not rape if she's willing

>>55282562
Well, if you don't mind her "request" of you dressing up as 5 Moons, then it sure ain't rape.

>>55282585
>Dressing up as a Lunar
Yeah that'll work, for maybe 3 minutes

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Are there any Dragonblooded that might compare to Ledaal Kes' greatness?

If a Zenith burns a body does the already existing ghost go to Lethe?

>>55282216
That just makes me fear what fuckery they're going to bring to Autchonia 3E. I hope they don't try to lift the authoritative state needed for survival for something more 'hopeful' or some other tripe shit.

>>55282599
Look, just don't fuck the 7th Soul of Malfeas, ok?

>tfw no campaign where you battle the powerful god eats his soul and becomes master of creation

>>55283318

Well at least he isn't trying to fuck the 13th soul of Malfeas.

Why does the charm "Soul Mastery" from "Wood Dragon Style" count as shaping?

Will Dragonblooded have a not!Ghost Eating Technique again?

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>>55283305
I hope they give an option/suggestion/possibility for Alchemicals and the Law of Diminishment being the/a cause for Autobot's sickness.

>>55277230
My bad.

>>55283927
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BzVmPsqHDDQ

>>55277012
Thanks for admitting you're trolling, makes my job easier

>>55284069
He's moving the goalposts, but saying someone is trolling because he says that mentioning Scroll of the Monk in a serious context will get you rightfully laughed out of the room is retarded.

>>55283417
Okay, let's play this game then. Which Soul would you fuck and why?
>Amalion, The Manse of Echoes Ascending, 5th Soul of Malfeas
or
>Ipithymia, The Street of Golden Lanterns, 13th Soul of Malfeas

>>55283443
Because in 2e Dragon-Blooded didn't get to have truly nice things.

>>55284106
Well aware of that, but I deided he's about as good as a troll, so he is one for me.
Since reality is based on perception and cognition of that perception and therefore subjective he is one.
Tl;dr I just can't be arsed to reply to him anymore

>>55284184
Ipithymia all day erry day

>>55284184
>>Ipithymia, The Street of Golden Lanterns, 13th Soul of Malfeas
Where can I find more about this

Don't demons get thrown back into Malfeas if they die after getting summoned and bound, with no worse for wear?
To actually kill a demon to death you have to kill one that's gotten to Creation without summoning or kill them in Malfeas. With GET.
Right?

>>55284911
She's a loli Sol who runs Malfeas' red light districts and can literally burn people to death with lust.

>>55284946
Only if it is 2nd or 3rd circle, or if the 1st circle demon has a Cult, or a powerful patron.

First circle extras are never reborn.

>>55282216
>What are some interesting or broken charms you never hear about?

Like all of the first draft of DotFA that isn't Zeal. They're neat ideas in places but they don't seem to recognise potential synergy with other Solar charms.

Endurance of 10,000 Cuts did this neat thing where damage was reduced by the number of health levels you'd already taken. Problem was it didn't seem to realise that.

A. Adamant Skin Technique was a thing you could activate vs. any attack strong enough to kill you outright.
B. There were things to negate or even invert wound penalties.

>>55285328
Perfection.

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>>55284184
Alveija with Ipithymia close second.

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>>55285523
Also, her red light districts are actually yellow light districts because Malfy has some kind of tsundere thing for Sol and maybe the Solars? buried deep deep down in his heart.

I haven't read anything about Ipithy in a while so I'm not sure if fucking her kills you or not.

>>55285328
I meant a book, though.
Thanks anyway.

What's with the shitstain around Maharashtra's place on the map, a Shadowland?

>>55285661
Compass of Celestial Directions V: Malfeas

>>55285829
No pictures tho, pity.

>>55283305
I hope there will be more differences between the nations of Autochthonia.

>>55278813
you're thinking of tornado ally in the midwest. places that get huricanes often have high watertables so its mostly evacuations. although unlike tornadoes and more like with a monsoon usually it's not so much the storm winds itself and more the aftermath and flooding that kill people anyway so a basement shelter probably isn't the greatest solution anyway

Ok, everyone wants to fuck the piss-yellow street of sluttery than the mother-manse, so let's continue.

>BENEZET, THE GARDENER OF IDENTITIES, 17th Soulf of Oramus
or
>MADELRADA,
THAT WHICH WEARS DOWN THE MOUNTAINS, 8th Soul of Kimbery

>>55283495

they'd have to. otherwise they'd be pointless. all exalts have something like that

>>55278066
and then I spent 1wp to disbelieve delusion and moved on

>>55286445
Madelrada, because she's great.

>>55277474
abyssals, alchemicals, and some infernals do. lunars can kindof halfass it as long as they don't wake up too often.

>>55286468
Oh. Huh. Pity.

>>55286445
>THAT WHICH WEARS DOWN MOUNTAINS

death by snoosnoo. the spirit is willing but the GLORIOUS SOLAR "MOUNTAIN" is being eroded away faster than I can heal it back up

Can a dragon blooded turn into a dragon at breeding 5? I have a player in a game I'm DMing that wants to be a dragon and refused to play any other kind of exalt.

>>55286553
>Can a dragon blooded turn into a dragon at breeding 5?

Breeding 5 doesn't say anything about turning into a dragon.

>Can a dragon blooded turn into a dragon
As far as I know, they can't. You'll have to write your own stuff for that. If I were to do it (and I wouldn't because Exalted are Exalted, not spirits), I'd make it a long term overarching goal with many steps to achieve. It would all be appropriate for a character that focusses on spiritual refinement and climbing the ladder of enlightenment.

>>55286504
high essence lunars are fine as long as they sleep a little longer than the time they spend awake, I'm pretty sure they get a charm that lets them de-age at a 1:1 rate to the time they spend hibernating

It's a special kind of hell, really. Stay awake one week sleep away the next.

>>55286553
just make him play a mortal and have a sideral mount him.

>>55271359
>Which combat ability do you use, why?
War, because putting myself in harms way when I can have a BG of dudes function as control-armor is awesome.

>Which defence ability do you use, why?
Dodge because it's dedicated and allows initiative manipulation.

>What do you think of Celestial Bliss Trick?
One of the best charms in the set. It's main problem is the way it's perceived by people with no real world experience with intimacy and sex.

>>55286553

The dragon blooded do not turn into dragons.

There is a way to turn a character into a dragon (at least in 2e).

There is a Sidereal charm that turns a person into a dragon, it is called "Riding the Dragon" (it needs ride 5, and essence 4).

It is only temporary and the person looses their mind, unless the sidereal spends a point of willpower.

It is unclear what the base stats of the dragon are, and unclear if it can be used on an exalted and unclear if they would even keep their old powers in that acase.

>>55288073
I mean the transformation is permanent if the sidereal spends willpower.

If they don't your int score drops to zero when you turn back to human.

so roleplaying-wise what if a exalted expend 10 ESSENCE in one fucking desesperate atack?

>>55288106
10 motes of Essence is somehting you can spend on Excellency alone, so it isn't really putting all you git into one desperate attack. If an Exalt was to out everythig he or she got into one attack, it would be just that, roleplaying wise. You know, putting your all in one desperate attack, knowing you'll be at serious disadvantage if it fails.

>>55288306
but he's a motherfuckin demigod 10 essence should at least destroy a city

>>55288327
Why? Why should a relatively minor effort from a demigod be enough to destroy a city? What's the logic, here?

>>55288327
Motes are the units of supernatural power that are used to power stuff
Essence is... The level of power you're at?

>>55288327
10 motes isn't that much, bit less than 1/4th of your power pool as a starting character.
Essence 10 probably won't be a thing in 3e.

>>55288500
because he's a demigod durr

>>55289103
Yeah, but considering that "able to destroy cities" isn't a part of the definition of demigod...again, what's the logic? How many demigods of real world mythology walked around destroying cities, and did so with relatively little effort?

>>55289252

I think the guy you're talking to is assuming that 10 Essence is your entire pool. He's confusing the power stat with your mana, so to speak.

>>55278066
>>55286487

Raksha are actually good at social combat IIRC.

Even outside of fantasys, they could make someone fall in love.

Also Raksha have higher ability caps.
One at essence 2 could have an appearance of 8, which would help with the falling in love bit.

>>55289339
Also sometimes people just fall in love.

>>55289339
>>55289428
The real question is does the Rakhsha reciprocate? Does it feel love?

>tfw exalted is just fate/zero westernized
whoa
Arthuria exalted when

>>55289453
It might. Rakshas can develop attachments, and attachments to things of Creation can't be disrcarded as easily as rakshas usually can. They're real that way. Whether the love of a raksha is similar to the love of a human being is a different matter, but it's possible for a raksha to feel some kind of love.

>>55289545
I actually made a Ghost Familiar based off of Fate in 2007. Much easier to do now in 3e though.

is it possible to fuck the fairfolk?

>>55289777
Yes. And be fucked in ways you cannot imagine.

>>55289793
assuming its end game you will already be all powerful
a single fairfolk qt wont be able to kill you

What's the deepest recursion of islands/lakes in creation?

3e Jadeborn when? https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2370030983&feature=iv&src_vid=W58O484SB-k&v=ytWz0qVvBZ0

>>55288500
1e manual had a sidebar that said so. each mote is one nagasaki's worth of explodium iirc

>>55290382
>1e
Please
Next you'll say something about 2e

>>55290312
Eventually. Probably. Perhaps.

>>55289952
She won't need to. All she needs to do is get in your pants and drain your willpower.

>>55290710
so fairfolk now are succubus?

>>55290768
Weren't they always?

>>55290908
Some were. Some weren't.

>>55290920
Them Lorelei cuties tho.

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>tfw renegade Moonshadow
Fucking resonance jesus fuck

dragon bloods are so fucking superior
i mean you can be a demigod whose hair is in flames
image you hair go to your waist but IN FLAMES
its so badass even feanor would be jealous

>>55273561
Basically, Sidereals took over the world, which subsequently went to hell in a hand-basket.

How was resonance and Abyssal limit break in 1e?

>>55291281
why do solars have this curse? i tought the sun was the perfect god and shit

>>55291398
Cursed by the dying whispers of the titans who they usurped.

>>55282959
>If a Zenith burns a body does the already existing ghost go to Lethe?
It would not, as the Zenith anima only prevents the formation of hungry ghosts from the lower soul.

>>55291546
Which is retarded.

>>55272528
I literally just got into this thread. Crafting is my very favourite part of pretty much any and every game I play.

Now what is this bullshit tomfoolery and how/why was it changed from 2nd edition?

>>55291663
It was changed because Holden is a dipshit. He tried to make it "fun" to be a fulltime crafter. Except instead of making it fun using a carrot he just beat you with a stick until you either did what he wants or you don't do Craft at all. He should have made it so you want to Craft things not that you have to.

Is it possible to play a "good" abyssal?
i mean one who doesnt want to murderfuck everybody?

is it possible to kill and use the soul of a exalted to make a motherfuckin awesome weapon?

>>55291663

They tried something really daring and ambitious and it didn't really work out.

>>55291754

The Hun or the Po, possibly. You'd probably use it to make Soulsteel.

>>55291739
You have to murderous people even if you're a Renegade.
You just kill the bad people and fuck off.

>>55291754
Not the Exaltation part, but Soulsteel is what it says on the tin

>>55289545
You can't really get more westernised than fate, Type-moon a fervently westaboo and don't let any eastern influences into their franchise.

>>55291281
Through no real fault of their own
>>55291398
You're talking about the Lord High Crackhead?


It was a deathcurse by what is now the neverborn.
Solars got hit hardest because they were the face of the war but it splashed on the other exalts too.

Don't think it hit the gods at all for some weird reason, Sol is just a hypocritical deadbeat like that, the whole revolt was pretty much because he was a lazy fucker deep down and wanted the pleasure dome for himself.....Although most of his current state is because firstage solars drove him to it with their aggressive shittiness.

>>55291398
>i tought the sun was the perfect god and shit

you can't really be a functional being with max in all virtues. it isn't remotely healthy, something has to give.

>>55292855
which is why nobody NOTICES that the solas are cursed. the lunar savants went with the far more plausible seeming "it's because they're too good for this world, just look at the sun" and similarly explained their own mild bouts of temporary insanity with "what do you expect, luna is a god of madness. so what if we howl at the moon sometimes, we get better after a couple hours" and sids' curse is subtle enough it just looks like the celestial bureaucracy is a mess that even the constant hard work the sidereals put in can barely hold together.

>>55291663
holden tried to make something awesome and it flopped. rather than try to fix that he covered for this and other shortcomings by aggressively shitting on 2e as a distraction and got his echochamber on the official forums to go along with it.
>>55291886
weirdly by raw it's no better than just using some random dirtfarmers. but your st should fudge that and give you bonus successes for the solar souls like with any other exotic ingredient.

>>55293017
>>55293017
>and sids' curse is subtle enough it just looks like the celestial bureaucracy is a mess that even the constant hard work the sidereals put in can barely hold together.

which also happens to be at least 2/3 true since again, the primordial war was mostly about the people who run reality not wanting to do so and foisting it off on their own underlings in turn ;)

>>55291754
You can use the blood of an exalt to make an artifact, but it'd be either a very minor artifact or a very powerful Exalt.

So what is a good option for a starting character/fighter? Brawl?

I might just actually read this, thanks.

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What do you do when too many players can't show up for a session? First Age flashback adventure?

>>55293299

Focus on some shit that the current players can take care of? I know that D&D hinges on a group of 4, but Exalted has a considerably higher power level and more player agency.

>>55293220

Melee is the best newbie friendly option. Does everything well. Power, range, defense, you name it.

Brawl is pretty much all power.

Archery isn't bad, but you'll need to get used to Dodge (Or have someone in your group capable at fighting at close range to prevent people from running towards you.)

Thrown is for when you want to kill people immediately at the start. With stealth it becomes busted.

how would you feel about lunars having the innate ability to prematurely set off their limitbreaks(rather than let them build up to 10 and go off...whenever)? possibly only after being hit by the full moon.

>>55294323

Don't PCs get loads of WP after a Limit Break? What's stopping people from farming WP that way, considering that it's one of the only ways to bump your WP passed 10?

>>55294458
You reset your Temp WP to whatever your Permanent WP is.

>>55294458
ah, right. definitely needs to be only doable when hit by the light of the full moon.

spent too much time playing alchemicals lately, forgot about the willpower refill

>>55281426
Since it's been nearly 24 hours and the only reply is this transparent excuse to bump the thread, I can pretty safely say nobody gives a shit about this for good or ill.

>>55291739

IIRC You can live in the underworld. since ghosts are already dead, it won't cause your resonance problems.

>>55290382
>>55290417

2e had that sidebar as well.

It is pretty much hyperbole.

>>55289952

Depends upon the builds. Raksha can do some crazy things.

One guy called "meschlum" on the giantitp forums showed a bunch of tricks you could do with them, but it wasn't really collected into one place.

>>55290382
>>55297255

Only 2e has that sidebar.

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>>55271359

>Which combat ability do you use, why?
Brawl. I love the idea of just punching, grappling, and never having to worry about being unable to defend yourself.

>Which defense ability do you use, why?
Block/Parry. Bring a brick shithouse is also my jam.

>What do you think of Celestial Bliss Trick?
I have no clue what that is. I'm pretty new to the system and mostly lurk this general to glean knowledge.

just read the core book
is it not a bit simplistic?
i mean these rules are bit too shallow

>>55298566
That's part of the beauty of it, I think. Simple, (and sometimes stupid) fun. I find it cathartic after playing different systems that rely on system mastery to squeeze any fun from it. You get to roll dice and even at the worst of times you can just be awesome. I know that kind of masturbatory behavior isn't for everyone but like most games it needs the right kind of people or else it really does become a wankfest.

>>55298566
Compared to what might I ask? I won't say Exalted is the most complex game out there, but calling it shallow is far from accurate.

>>55298566

>simplistic rules
>shallow

OK I've seen *a lot* of complaints about Exalted 3e, but this is a new one to me.

>>55298654
shallow i mean simplistic
which depending of the table might need some homebrew

>>55298566
In what way? I was kind of surprised by how much crunch was involved in the system considering it kind of bills itself as cuhrayzee cinematic.

>>55298679
Again, compared to what? What's your reference point here?

>>55297012
Go to SV they live for that stuff

>>55298381
>Block/Parry. Bring a brick shithouse is also my jam.
No Dodge/Resistance?

So apparently Abyssal Resonance works more like it did back in 1e in that you can bleed it off and stuff

>>55291632
Why is it retarded? A ghost has no particular attachment to his old body. Or rather no attachment with any practical effect, obviously there might be plenty of emotional attachment.

>>55291663
>Now what is this bullshit tomfoolery and how/why was it changed from 2nd edition?

It was too easy to break the game with the craft rules of the 2nd edition.

It was flat craft rolls, and a Solar can add shitton of dices, and then you just crafted magitek power armor for half your army with laser guns. It was silly.

Unfortunately, the 3e solution to that is absurd, stupid, and does not work. It is worst in every single way.

What is even worse is that there are good, balanced rules to create magical artifacts in 3e: it's called Sorcerous Working, it's not broken, it works. They should have used the exact same system for Craft, but they didn't.

And the worst of all is that it doesn't even solve the 2e problem! A Craft supernal Solar can still craft a shitton of artifacts freely, because the Craft charms are built around the idea of circumventing the limitations of Craft. There is a point when a Craft Solar goes from 'useless' to 'overpowered', and nothing in between.

>>55291739
use the Resonance rules from Shards

>>55284184
Stanewald, She Who Surmounted the Omphalos.

After she accomplished her previous major motivation of sticking it to Earth elementals, she's now looking for a new purpose in life.

So I'd task-bind her to the task of "Make your new purpose in life to love and serve me as my chief concubine."

>>55300486
Then the binding would be over as soon as she's accepted that as her new purpose, and she'd return to Hell.

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Cult of the Illuminated
Yay or Nay?

>>55300551
At which point you promptly summon her again.

You know, because she's in love with you and has serving you as her primary purpose in life.

>>55300611
>At which point you promptly summon her again.
But if you summon her normally, and summon her again every time the duration of the binding elapses, what does it even matter that she loves you? I mean, a summoned, bound demon is loyal and obedient anyways, so she'd serve as your concubine regardless. It is also worth bearing in mind that feelings of love and devotion can fade and change, even when it comes to demons. After Stanewald has made these feelings her purpose, they aren't forcibly upheld by any magic. They are real, of course, and won't disappear anywhere when the original task binding ends, but time and experiences can change them.

>>55300718
Obviously you get her to Creation without summoning and chaining her

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What're some good inspiration and stuff for Abyssal characters and/or games?

>>55301004
Intruders: Invaders from the Abyss (which is the most stupid name for a splat book ever) has a ton of this stuff in it.

Are Abyssal stuck with Soulsteel, or can they use Jade and/or other MM as well?

>>55301047
in 3e they can use any magic material but get the most out of Soulsteel

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It's a hard choice between a Zenith and Eclipse.
On one hand easy body disposal, on the other hand diplomatic immunity.

>>55301154
what's your stance on Creatures of Darkness?
do you want smite them or walk into their homes and dance around like MC Hammer singing "can't touch this!"

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>>55301179
I don't know
I don't know
I DON'T KNOW

>>55300725
That might work. You'd better be sure you won't ever grow bored of Stanewald and decide you want someone else to be your chief concubine, though.

Would it just count as mastrubation if a Primordial/Yozi had sex with one of their souls?

>>55301004
Berserk for a Ronin Abyssal

>>55301226
>You'd better be sure you won't ever grow bored of Stanewald
Considering that both dancing and fucking use the same dice pool in Exalted, and Stanewald is one of the best dancers in Malfeas...

>>55301247
>If Amalion went to Ipithymia to find a prostitute for the day/night/until the Ebon Dragon passes over, and instead went with the humanoid form of Ipithymia, would that be incest, masturbation, gay, or straight?

>>55301344
Yes

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Why play a Solar with Great Curse when you can play an Abyssal that'll purify themself?

>>>55301495

>thinking the great curse is a downside.

>>55301495
because having to play the worst splat(yes, I'm even putting the boring solar recolor behind the unusable fairfolk) at all, let alone for a fairly long time, is a far far greater curse for the poor player to bear.

>>55298566
deeper rules offend the player as too much has been defined, stifling their glorious solar rollplay. "holden must be autistic" they cry.

>>55298679
requiring you to homebrew some of the rules and setting is considered a "feature" of leaving gaping holes in the map. "non autistic" people apparently prefer that over "heres rules if you want them, feel free to throw them out or change them if not". in fact, even the stuff they do define seems to require that wishywashy disclaimer as if people wouldn't just do that anyway.

>>55301495
You're unlikely to redeem before the game ends while the Great Curse is primarily going to be an issue in the extremely distant future.

Then even if you do redeem the other Solars aren't automatically going to recognise you as the sane one.

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>>55301179
A hard choice, I suppose.
Pray to UCS and maybe get an answer, or go and talk to him in person...

>>55299146
>No Dodge/Resistance?

Definitely Resistance.

For a Brawl guy which would be best
Dodge 0/Resistance 4
Dodge 2/Resistance 2
Dodge 4/Resistance 0

>>55302394

Going to go with the last one. Dodge is decent at every level, but Resistance kind of requires that you buy its best charm.

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>>55302394
>Dodge 0/Resistance 4
Did you not read the thread you baboon?

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Ooh they're planning a Storyteller's Companion thing for 3e at some point.

>>55301682
You're conflating two completely different things. Holes in the map aren't about the mechnanical side of things at all, they're about the fluff. They're also unambiguously a good thing, as far as I'm concerned. Being able to come up with cities and nations of my own without having to change or remove locations already detailed in the books is great.

>>55302696
Why are you posting mai waifu?

>>55302696
But I’ll be 40 by then.

>>55303695
Does it matter? Is Storyteller's Companion really something we need anytime soon?

>>55303695
Wait, you're 10 and your parents let you play Exalted?

>>55304181
>>55303695
You're too young to be on this site, mister.

/tg/, how do you handle stealth well when it's coming from enemy exalts?
Right now the party is being stalked by a Day caste assassin, and I want to give them enough hints without it being "Roll perception periodically". Anyone have experience with something that worked for them?

>>55304541
if it was a lunar I'd have it start just fucking with them in minor ways. but a day is probably more serious about stalking people than that

>>55304661
I was thinking of having them find a lot of random bodies, from the Day needing to feed to keep up his essence in Creation, but I'm not sure if that'll be enough to clue them in on what's happening.

>>55304541
>>55304693
Where and with what intention is he stalking them? If the party's traveling through a wilderness, you could have them wake up in the morning and find signs of someone having been there during the night. Footprints or something, preferrably something minor but not undetectable. If someone was keeping watch, all the better, as that would show the party that someone capable of sneaking past one of them is around. Assume that the Day isn't going to always roll well in order to leave some clues. ALternatively, don't have him be completely rational about the whole thing. Maybe he steals some minor personal possessions, to taunt the party or because of some weird quirk of his. Maybe he instead leaves something for them to find, like notes or drawing in blood or items symbolizing one thing or another. A skilled sneaky Exalt who maintains a perfectly professional attitude is very hard to notice, so basically don't play him as someone who maintains a perfectly professional attitude. Have him make a mistake or grow overconfident.

>>55304787
Long story short, the Lion is moving forward with his plan to sac Gem to create a shadowland to use as a base in Creation, but the PCs managed to get wind of most of the plan through a bit of luck with the Elemental courts. Now they're trying to make it there from The Lap, to warn them in time and prepare, but one of the Lion's Day Castes (And a Moonshadow stationed in Gem once they get closer) is trying to stop them.
>ALternatively, don't have him be completely rational about the whole thing.
I don't know why this didn't really cross my mind. Abyssals do tend to be a bit unhinged, so I could definitely see him leaving weird, morbid warnings.

>>55302425

You can make pretty big deals with the charm that expands health levels.

But Dodge is clearly better until ESS 2 at the very least.

>>55302394
Dodge 3/Resistance 1, buy a single ox-body at character generation, use your solar experience to buy up Dodge later.

how might an infernal close a shadowland? iirc solars had a charm for it in inkmonkies and there was some sorcery that explicitly called on the sun and so would probably hurt a cod...

all i can think of is "blow it the fuck up" but not sure if or why that'd actually work

Where would I find the rules on lintha in 2e? and did anybody homebrew something better(either for 2 or 2.5)?

>>55304181
you strike me as uncharacteristically optimistic

>>55305787
Turn it into Malfeasland or something. A giant Malfeas aspect Demesne

>>55305890
That's not much better.

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>>55305787
Sorcerous Working

>>55305814
Lintha are described in the Compass: West, I think. I don't think they really have rules, though. No unique mechanics or anything like that.

>>55306804
Tax the motherfucking ghosts. Because even the Underworld must pay fealty to the Yozi.

Wonder what the Yozi think of the Neverborn?

>>55307163
Hate fear and disgust

Is there an Elsewhere storage Charm for stuff other than weapons and armour in 3e

>>55307163
They'd probably rather not think about them. They're an unpleasant reminder of what might've happened to the Yozis themselves, after all. Ebon Dragon, being a macabre weirdo who loves doomed things, might be fascinated by them, though.

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>>55307708
Proof Eating Palm
>The Solar’s genius hands can outwit even the sharpest eye. This Charm allows her to hide any object small enough to palm. She may appear to swallow the item, fit it under her tongue, hide it up her sleeve, etc. The object vanishes.
It does not go to Elsewhere. It merely ceases to exist until the Exalt needs it again, at which point she may will it into her hand with just a thought. The Exalt may hide no more than five objects, but each object must be hidden in a separate space.

>>55307853
Oh wait no specifically doesn't Elsewhere.
No, there isn't.

>>55301024

I guess this is a Mage thread now. Grimoire Of Grimoires's Hildebrant Recording is a nice bit of inspiration as well.

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I wonder if there'll be a First Age thing for 3e.
Probably not.
Another Shards might be cool I guess.

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>>55308656
>Posting that travesty
Ishiggidigidygiggidy

If I were to start with Exalted is 3rd or 2nd Edition better?

2nd obviously is better but I want less crunch so idk whats better there.

Also First Age stuff only exists for 2nd? (I know about the Lore but Not much else)

>>55308864
go 3e, the 2e mechanics are horrendously broken whereas 3e's mechanics--while still not fantastic--actually are functional in most cases.

>>55308864
3e unquestioned. 2e is a giant pile of shit. 3e is actually somewhat good. The first time Exalted ever has been functional.

>>55308864
1e or 3e.
Fuck 2e with a rusty spork.

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>>55308864

>2nd obviously is better

>>55308916
I'm sure he meant that it has more fluff released
Even if they explain everything down to that one grain of rice's god's uncle's dog's pet name instead of leaving something a mystery

>>55308864
This thread hates 2e with a passion. I think it's ok, but 3e is muuuuuuuccchhhh better for a beginner. 2e's for it you love crunching crunch a lot. 3e's if you just want to play.

>>55308916
>>55308948

Fuck sorry. That actually was a brainfart. I meant that 2e has more expansions. Idk what happened there maybe I meant better expansions.

>>55308977
>maybe I meant better expansions.
Not all that hard with what 3e having no— does Tomb of Dreams or w/e count?
Oh and the NPC things.
Does anyone have them?

>>55307074
thanks, no wonder I didn't see it.
>>55306804
wrong edition. you know infernals aren't in 3e
>>55306048
it's less about being "better" and more about denying it to the abyssals/deathlords because the yozi agenda requires creation to still exist and neverborn want everywhere to die.

>>55305890
so rework that "heal a shadowland by burning the death out of it the power of sunlight" spell to instead make it a demense to whoever's initiation you're using?

...should I also make that work on small wyld freeholds then?

>>55307853
so 3e stole that lunar charm for solars

>>55308864
play 3e mechanics with 2e lore and the homebrew 2e splat ports linked in op (use the non-ability infernals link since you have a choice)

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>>55309417
Cecelyne or SWLiHN Charms.

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What is Gem like?

>>55309885
Hot, plutocratic, neat if you're rich, horrible if you're poor, but with plenty of chances to lose your fortune if you're rich or to make one if you're poor.

So what homebrew and house rules do you guys use? What advantages does it offer over the core rules?

>>55299401
you could do that in 2e too, if by bleed off you mean vent a few dots by triggering the punishment early so they only kill your puppy instead of an entire town when it builds up so much it can't stay contained. venting resonance even allowed you to weaponize your limitbreak.

on paper rather than in play it sounds so much better in 2e ;)

s oif exalted solar can become giant sized this mean i can fuck a lunar in their abomination form?

>>55271359
>>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?
>You don't
FTFY

>>55312122
why no one play this setting? It's so awesome.

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Has anyone written up any artifacts using the new dissonant/resonant rules?

>>55312165
Because the game itself is a bloated mess.

>>55312165
Because playing is awesome, but running it is extremely complicated. Most ST just run for a compact group and never look for other players, or just don't exist.

I don't blame them, because >>55312321

>>55312333
>some say the game isnt confuse
>others say it is
i dont find the rules of exalted this bad

>>55312377
Until you see them in play.

>>55312165
because it actually sucks. theres a reason it has so many fans and so few players. players stop being fans ;)

>>55305814
IIRC Modern Lintha are Demonbloods, Aincent Lintha were basically Solar Half-Castes with a different aesthetic with really powerful ones being refluffed Dragonbloods. (both because they're what Autochthon took apart early on when he was first thinking about how to make Exaltations and because the devs are lazy and didn't want to write a chargen and bunch of charms you'd never use). There might be a total of one or two Lintha alive with high enough breeding to still use Half-Caste rules

Speaking of SoH did they really list bonus successes on the roll to identify godbloods under the inference background and forget to tell you the base difficulty? I know the book was bad anyway, but comeon. Basic quality control like that shouldn't be too difficult even if balance is an issue.

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>>55313579
In 3e they're something like but not exactly demon-blooded and/or Yozi-blooded

>mfw half-Castes are no longer a thing

>>55314718
>mfw half-Castes are no longer a thing

Good.

>>55291300
>How was resonance and Abyssal limit break in 1e?
Pretty cool and quite manageable unless you allowed to build to extreme levels. It basically changed the genre to gothic horror.

>>55315993
Apparently 3e Abyssal will have both the ability to bleed it out and a limit break type of thing

>>55307853
>Exalted has a specific in-setting mechanic to explain how personal insubstantial storage magic works
>Exalted 3E has a personal insubstantial storage charm that specifically doesn't use that mechanic and instead just happens for no specific reason
This describes a lot of 3E changes.

Hey /exg/
Is there somewhere guides about how to handle zoned part of combat in exalts?

2/2.5e proposed houserule:

infernals get an extra favored yozi if you add one homebrew tree. a second extra favored if you add 4, and a third extra favored if you add 6

what breaks?

my concern: each yozi was meant to more or less be a whole tree and 2 yozi were meant to be enough. adding too many favored means you basically never have to take an unfavored charm

thoughts?

>>55316838
It's ~pure skill~
I guess it goes with the Solar theme

>>55316893
Mind map
Kind of like ~mind palace~ except a map
>captcha mega gayton
Is that u?

>>55314718
Of COURSE Halfcastes suck ass and should never have been a thing. but the halfcaste rules in soh are basically how Aincent Lintha worked which was the question being answered.

I'd say remove the halfcastes entirely, if you want dyanasty stuff play a dragonblood, solars are oneoffs.
but the very few games I allow them in they're restricted to mutations, tma, emerald sorcery, and their parent's excellencies. maybe occasionally one is born that can borrow the parent's anima power. no "charms up to essence 3" which was ridiculous and terrible.

>>55317064
but like the reply said, aincent lintha worked that way because they're who autobot vivisected when he was first planning out how to make exaltations. so you can't really take /them/ down below "have excellencies" anyway. and since they're extinct I don't see why they wouldn't still have once used halfcaste rules.the near genocide followed by mixture of watering down the blood and their curse leads them to lose those powers and try to bring it back by becoming a race of demonbloods.

>>55317064
>I'd say remove the halfcastes entirely, if you want dyanasty stuff play a dragonblood, solars are oneoffs.
Dynasty stuff has never been what Half-Castes are about, or really even something Half-Castes enable. The blatantly false comparison between Half-Castes and Dragon-Blooded will never start making any genuine sense, no matter how often it's repeated. The name Half-Caste is dumb as fuck, and giving Half-Castes access to their parent's Charms is even dumber, but children of the Exalted having some supernatural advantages makes sense and does not in any way step on the toes of the Dragon-Blooded.

>>55316838
>Exalted has a specific in-setting mechanic to explain how personal insubstantial storage magic works
Exalted 3e got rid of that. Now Elsewhere just means "somewhere else in Creation". When you use your Elsewhere storage charm on your daiklave, it winds up sitting on some random hill or lodged in the branches of some random tree somewhere.

That charm doesn't store things Elsewhere because they're not Elsewhere, they're nowhere.

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>>55317218
ok

>>55317218
This isn't actually true, just for the record.

>>55317308
It is, though. From Hauberk-Summoning Gesture:
>The Solar can call her armor from conceptual Elsewhere— defied categorically as a point somewhere in existence that is “not here”

So, when you send an item Elsewhere, all you're doing is teleporting it to some random location, somewhere in existence. Could be Creation, could be the Wyld, could be Malfeas or Yu-Shan. It's not some extradimensional void like it was in previous editions.

>>55317491
It doesn't say that though.

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How do you exorcise demons in 3e?
Or is that no longer a thing?

>>55317502
Yes, it does. Page 377 in the corebook. It's the first sentence in the text of the charm Hauberk-Summoning Gesture.

"Elsewhere" in 3e is defined as a random point somewhere in existence that is "not here". When you use a charm to send an object Elsewhere, then, all you're doing is randomly teleporting it.

>>55317491
Uh-uh.

I'm updating my mental map. Do you come from Onyx Path or from Space Battle?

>>55317519

There are charms in occult, IIRC. You could probably write a Thaumaturge, which would make sense considering that mortal exorcists exist.

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>>55318454
I'd say Sufficient Velocity considering SB Exalted thread is p dead.
But SV wanks 2e so hard I don't think they'd like the "Elsewhere just means somewhere in Creation" thing.

>>55317218
that is just...so stupid.

>>55317491
>>55317921
It doesn't say it teleports them to a random place that isn't where you are currently. It says that it teleports them to a point that is conceptually "not here" in the sense that it isn't in any location. That's why it says "conceptually" and "categorically". If something is stored in Elsewhere, then no matter where you are, you won't be able to point to it and say "it's here" because it isn't in any of those places.

Where were general lifespans listed again? didn't see it in 2e core (i forgot what age siderals are hardcapped at. also trying to get an idea for the length of the first age based on solar lifespan)

>>55319004

It's laid out in their respective splatbooks.

Solars/Lunars, 3,000 years; Sidereals, 5,000 years; Dragon Blooded, 300 years; Abyssals, Indefinite/Immortal; Infernals, Depends on Essence and if they go Devil-Tiger.

>>55317491
Conceptual Elsewhere is, of course, not just concretely somewhere else, and a point that is categorically not here can't be, well, anywhere. It's elsewhere, no matter where you are or where you go.

>>55316838
problem was that when Elsewhere was a storage dimension people wanted to steal stuff from it which defeated the in-game reason of Elsewhere charms in the first place.

>>55317921
3E Core, p.377

>Hauberk-Summoning Gesture
>[...]
>The Lawgiver can
>also send her armor Elsewhere through use of this Charm.

>Whirlwind Horse-Armoring Prana
>The Lawgiver may draw her horse’s tack, armor, and
>weapons from conceptual Elsewhere, causing them to hover
>and leap onto her mount’s body over the course of three
>rounds.
>[...]
>She may also pay three motes to instantly
>send her mount’s panoply Elsewhere.

I think the problem here is reading comprehension. Is conceptual Elsewhere different to 'just' Elsewhere.

>>55319187
I don't think that was actually a thing outside of that one single-page between-chapters comic.

Question about 3e: do penalties apply to static values as well as rolls? For example, say I get hit with pocket sand and the penalty for being blind is -3, it's a given that it applies to sight-based actions like attacking, but would it also apply to Defense? That seems kind of powerful but it strikes me as less intuitive that someone who literally cannot see isn't able to effectively parry an incoming attack or to block an arrow. I always assumed that wound penalties worked like this, too.

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>>55319004
Page 34— oh 2e, nevermind.

>>55319367
there was also a charm in DotFA called Elsewhere Fingers, it got way more traction than a lot of other stupid ideas