The Elder Scrolls Race discussion

Physical strength:
Nords
Magical strength:
Altmer

Filipinos

spamming /v/ and here, cool

The real question is, which race has the widest hips and most succulent asses that invites your spear?

>>55257304
Do you mean in terms of "strength" in-universe?

If so,
>Physical
Orcs

>Magical
Altmer

If you mean in terms of lore depth, that's a bit more difficult (and objective). Personally, my favorites are the Redguard, Orsimer, and Imperials.

>>55257995
Bretons.

>>55257995
Argonians.

It doesn't matter how strong they are, if they have knife ears they have to burn. Diggers and knife ears need to hang from trees.

>>55257304
Imperials, they did take over everything after all.

>>55257304
Bretons.
Innate tallent in magic, magic resistance and tallent in martial combat.

They stay true to their D&D Half Elf counterparts with being the most OP race choice.

>>55257995
Argonian

>>55257995
Orcs had the highest weight stat in Morrowind.

>>55257304
I believe the aldmeri dominion is the strongest empire on tamriel.

>>55258447
>Imperials
>race

Pick one

>>55259181
>couldn't even beat redguards

The only thing they had going for them was the element of surprise. The Empire would come out on top in the waiting game, thats why they agreed to the truce in the first place

>>55257304
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/An-Xileel_Daedric_resistance

The only correct answer.

>>55257304
Tsaesci, Kamal and/or Ka Po'Tun
Tsaesci took over the empire in a half-assed invasion before and could easily do it again.
Kamal sent one army to tamriel and fucked up so much shit it took the entire nations to stop them
Ka Po'Tun's emperor turned himself into a fucking dragon. Best Nords got was to talk like them

>>55257304
>>55259379
My bad technically not from tamriel. Still better tho

>>55257967
>I've only been on /tg/ for three days

>>55259277
All right. Cyrod then, faggot.

>>55259533
It's colovian or nibenese, ho

>The Virgin Nibenese

>The Chad Colovian

>>55259656
>oily-haired, sleazy Nibenese traders
>Nord-blooded, noble, Tamriel conquering Colovians

Like there's even a choice.

>>55257545
Bretons are the Master Race. Innate blanket magic resist is OP as fuck

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Are Bosmer white, /poltg/?

>>55257304
Nords. That cold resistance can't be beat.

>>55261161
Nord cold resistance is better, because ice magic is more common than any other type. An those new things flying around? Dragons? The ones with ice breath are tougher than the ones with fire. Meaning cold resistance is more valuable. Cold also drains stamina, which everyone needs in order to fight or run if they have to.

>>55261322
>Dragons
>In any setting besides Skyrim
Anon, I hate to tell you this, but you're wrong.

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>>55257304
Altmer of course, you fucking untermensch

>>55261362
I hate to tell you this, but Solstheim is part of Morrowind, and has dragons. The end of the main quest has dragons fucking off to whatever part of the world they want. They're not just in one province.

Here's why frost resistance is best. Shock damage hits health and magicka, but unless you're a mage you don't have to give a shit. It's also the most costly to cast. Fire damage hurts the most, but it's just damage. Frost however, has a slow effect as well. What does that mean? It mean the mage hitting you with it is gaining more time to kill you before you can cut his head off. He's also draining your stamina to weaken your ability to power attack and end the fight faster. Frost damage is unquestionably the most dangerous to an average person. A Breton's 35% resistance means less, because shock and fire mean less.

>>55261456
PS, frost is also the most common. Mages can use any type, but conjurers and necromancers favor frost. That's three mage type using frost, and only one each for shock and fire.

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Khajiit is best race.

Many forms, many types. Craziest magic, all of them are crazy assholes that still manage to get away with it. Some of them are immortal time travelers, like M'aiq.

Best waifus.

>>55257304
Whichever one makes the best stealth archers.

>>55261230
No, but they're cannibals so it evens out

Dunmer and Khajiit, as they are the only ones that will survive the landfall

Daily reminder that racial talent strength depends on purity of blood and alignment of the stars when birthed. Largely invalidates any use of them in an argument. Not all talents are mutually exclusive.

>>55257683
came here to say this

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>>55259277
Cyrodilics, Cyro-Nord, Nedic People, Colovians. They're a race that live in the heartland of Tamriel.

Also the only race willing to get everyone to stop bitching and get along....with them at the top.

>>55257304
There was a lore book where the Nordic fighter guild leader said an Orc was the strongest warrior he'd ever seen as he wielded a huge ass mace.

>>55261406
get a load of this Altmer akavirboo

>>55262542
Is that really true? I just thought the c0da story is primarily told from a Dunmer point of view, and there are other elven/beast races on the moon - the Altmer are the only ones truly 'wiped out' thanks to the Numidium's ancestro-scythe

Argonian.
Other races get to talk when they can live in black marsh OR rape draedric prince silly

>>55262542
>>55266114
The Altmer and all the man races were wiped out. There MIGHT be Redguards remaining after but I don't recall.

For sure the Altmer, Bretons, Imperials, and Nords are all vamoose.

>>55266871
What happened to all the men?

>>55266883
There was a skirmish between Thalmor and Imperial agents beneath the (was it Aldmeri or Imperial city?), after the Heart of Lorkhan had been found. The Numidium had already been broken free, so the elves having nothing to lose, began to perform the ritual that would destroy reality. The ritual was interfered with, and instead both man and Altmer were REMOVED. From what I remember at least.

Been a while since I read that C0DA, but it was a pretty cool read. It's worth checking out for yourself.

>>55261230
Bosmer deserve more love, they always seem so forgotten

>>55266909
Oh, right. I just don't see why men are such a big deal - aren't they of the same heritage as elves and things, but just favoured by Lorkhan/his various aspects? Is it because they continue to worship the likes of Talos? Is it because they always end up in conflict with elves/try to conquer them?

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>>55261230

>>55266702
>Other races get to talk when they can live in black marsh OR rape draedric prince silly

Other races get to not be slaves

>>55266945
It's a shame they don't get more attention. Hopefully in the future they get some time in the spotlight with the Great Hunt

Altmer, maybe even physically, because they live for hundreds of years and there's Altmer patisseries older than the ninth divine. Now imagine their smithing and their arts and sciences and all. They really are the superior race, that's kind of the point.

>>55267116
>They really are the superior race

Yet look like talking bananas

>>55267179
They went a bit overkill on the whole eugenics thing

>>55267095
>tfw valenwood fucking never since bethesdas shitty engine can't handle it

>>55267229
>What do you mean moving trees, chosen one? That's jsut imperial superstition, fact is our trees have never ever moved! Oh, we don't actually build our cities in trees, that's just a transliteration error. What we do we always build them --around-- a big tree, like that one there!

>>55267267
>You've been reading too many poems, He-Who-Was-Promised. You can't build cities out of poetry!

>>55266981
Don't recall. Someone more knowledgeable than me could field that question.

So what happened to the Nerevarine?

>>55266981
Mer and Men come from different progenitor gods. Men come from the god/symbol of change, and Mer from the god/symbol of the opposite of change.

Excuse my shitty phrasing.

>>55267293
He went to akavir to prevent another invasion

>>55267306
Anu and Padomay? But how, if they both come from the various aedric spirits that populated and gave power to the nascent Nirn

>>55267308
That's just a rumor. What REALLY happened to him?

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>>55267365
he boarded his huge yacht to live a life in luxury and fuck bitches of every race

As insufferable as they are, it's probably the Altmer, simply because they produce more S-rank mages than anyone else. Mages are the demographic most likely to achieve Chim or the state beyond Chim, and they do crazy shit like tonal architecture and create devices that let you transcribe Elder Scrolls to read them without going fucking blind or insane or cease existing. The Zabuza principle is extremely accurate well in ES.

>>55267464
>[Aldmeri] produce more S-rank mages than anyone else
Not necessarily. Depends on how many children Aldmer have per generation and what the chances are those children are high class mages.

>>55261500
Currently running a game where an Alfiq is the advisor to the Archmage and the party found an abandoned Senche-Raht cub in Alabaster. Loves me some subtypes.

Bretons are manlets.

>>55261492
Take a walk outside Skyrim sometime and you'll find frost is a lot less common than you think.

>>55261230
>Bosmer
>White

>>>/oven/

>>55257304
Do the Hist count?

>>55267365
He found dwemers

Can Khajit cross breed with other races?

>>55257304
Man, as a collective. It's all because of Lorkh*explodes into moths.

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>>55269381
Maybe bosmer, since those are sort of beastfolkish elves too, even if the games seem to forget about that.
Good luck trying to get a bosmer and khajiit to get along, though.

>>55267365
He sailed east to fuck snake bitches.

>>55269888
bosmer are absolutely disgusting

>>55269888
>all women gorgeous

ahhhh yisss, confirmed best mer

>>55270723
>Bosmer
>best mer
Look at this n'wah here.

>>55271009
Let him figure out his mistake on his own.
Just imagine the look on his face when his "gorgeous" bosmer waifu drops the glamour.

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>>55269888
God damn I hate elves

>>55269888
>>55271111
So are Bosmer women naturally gorgeous, or are they always casting a charm?

Just what is Power of Glamour?

Dwemer, they were capable of some ludicrous horseshit.

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>>55271976
the bullet points in the pic states that
>they have black eyes
>their women are gorgeous
>all males has lost the power of glamour

the buttom text also seems to imply that they are a "forest fey" stand-in, which I wouldn't really say is 100% correct.

The question then is if the points are separate or connected.
One could either see it as they are hiding their true appearance with a spell only women has, or that the women look hot and the men hideous naturally, and the women on top of that has whatever power of glamour is.

>>55271976
>So are Bosmer women naturally gorgeous, or are they always casting a charm?
The pic isn't very clear on which is the case.
If the women were naturally beautiful however, would they need the power of glamour?
Though it could indeed be they're already pretty and just use the glamour to make sure they look like "your type" for maximum attractiveness.

>Just what is Power of Glamour?
Going by most other fantasy stuff a bit, a glamour is a magical/psychic means of altering how others perceive you. So yeah, like a charm spell.

>>55257683
I don't get it.

>>55269888
Wouldn't this be before the Green Pact?
Bosmer are supposed to have a consistent form, as long s the don't fuck with the Valenwood flora.

>>55259603
>Colovian
There's barely any difference between these guys and straight up Nords. It's the Nibenese who might represent a different human lineage.

>>55273081
I think this is Morrowind concept art

my thoughts are that the Bosmer in that picture do have a 'consistent form' - i.e, they really look like imps and what not, without changing back and forth between their 'humanoid' form and the monstrous wild hunt forms/plant forms/whatever forms that were happening during the Dawn Age

That said, their forms are fairly ugly, so to better mesh with other races (e.g the highly racist aesthete Altmer) they would have benefited from using glamours (which they would have lost)

The picture/caption is unclear, whether it means the women are also ugly but can maintain their glamour to make themselves look gorgeous, or are gorgeous (and can use glamours to amplify this)

>>55269888
>>55270614
>>55271009
deffintely the best mer to be at least. A Bosmer's whole life consists of
>eating nothing but steak
>getting high af by smoking poisonous bugs
>fucking gauranteed 10/10 babes
>chilling in a fucking jungle where the animals naturally don't want to kill you
>riding fucking trees because fuck logic

Worst case scenario, you eat a salad one day and become a literal chaos spawn

>>55261230
>Online
Not canon.

>>55267306
Wrong.

Men and Mer are from the same progenitors. Ehlnofey is merely a term for Aedra reduced so much by the creation of the world that they became mortal. Their ancestors split along two lines. There were those that stayed in Tamriel, and those that wandered around Nirn. This division also came with an ideological one. The ones that stayed decided that Mundus was a nightmare prison that must be destroyed, while those who wandered decided that Mundus was an opportunity to improve themselves and achieve something greater (a position even many Mer would switch to by the end, like the Khajiit and Dunmer.) The first conflict occurred between these groups when wandering Ehlnofey came back to Tamriel, and expected to be treated like brothers by those who stayed. Yet instead they were treated like underclass scum, and eventually attacked, and so the division between Men and Mer was set in stone.

>>55266871
Wrong.

The story tells us the Khajiit did work to help evacuate members of other races, except the Dunmer and Altmer (and the Dunmer evacuated themselves.)

>>55270078
Vampire asian snake bitches. Nerevar knew where to get the best weird pussy in all of Nirn.

>>55272502
>>55269888
This is abandoned concept art. It's not canon to how they are now.

The only way you'd get Bosmer that look like this now would be those that survived a Wild Hunt and didn't end up completely mindless. They could look like this.

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>1 million kinds of elves
>No dwarves, and the dwarves that did exist were elves

>>55273594
Orcs are kind of the dwarves of ES too. They are angry smiths who build a lot of stuff from stone.

>>55273594
>w-where's my manly alcoholic midgets?

>>55273594
>Hating on based magitech steampunk Assyrians because they happened to have no deformities aside from pointy ears.

>>55261406
>hurr durr existance hurts so much

Imagine beeing this much of a pussy

>>55262542
Hist are still around aswell

>>55266909
c0da is overrated.
its just a bunch of popculture shit.

The only cool bit was Talos beeing overcompensating for the fact that hes a breton.

>>55273081
finally someone actually understands the green pact.
So many people do net ge tthat the main deal of the green pact is that the bosmer are forbidden from changing shapes and THATS why the wild hunt is a big deal

God tier
>Hist
>Dwemer

High Tier
>Altmer
>Argonians
>Redgaurds with Hoonding
>Wild hunt Bosmer

Mid Tier
>Dunmer
>Orsimer
>Breton
>Imperials

Shit Tier
>Nords
>Bosmer no wild hunt
>Redgaurd no hoonding

Too high to care tier
>Khajiit

HoonDing.

By the way, whatever happened to Cyrus after he fought Vehk and Tiber?

>>55257995
Dunmer, Probably the widest hips.

>>55259181
t.stormcroak

>>55274106
>Altmer
>High Tier
Literally worse than Falmer, tbqh

What was the falmer civilization like before they went underground?

>>55273370
>The story tells us the Khajiit did work to help evacuate members of other races, except the Dunmer and Altmer (and the Dunmer evacuated themselves.)
That was part of it too. Kirkbride had to have Vivec swoop down with starships to help a bunch of his people.

Might want to go reread the parts just before that.

>RIVE CHOONDA

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>>55274106
>tiers

>>55278536
There's a reason most young orcs these days flee the strongholds to live in human society. They pretty much only ever return if they think they can kill the old warlord and take his spot. Otherwise it sucks shit. Men are basically his slaves and women can get forced into his harem at any time.

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>>55278536
Best version

>>55278536
what are those symbols beneath Divayth Fyr and the argonian? Don't think I've seen them before.

>>55279214
>Kajiits... once got so fucked up that they collectively believed their entire country had traveled to the moon
Please tell me this actually happened

>>55279393
It's not true. Because instead they got so fucked up that they actually went to the moon, and established a base there to observe Dragon Breaks.

>>55279393
Yeah, all the cats climbed to the moon. It makes sense considering how linked they are to the lunar matrix.

>>55279214
>Morrowind, which was an earlier game in the Skyrim series
Fucking hell my sides

>>55279214
At least they understand the importance of stealth archery.
But Argonians > Bosmer in that category. Especially in IV, with their full poison immunity and water breathing.

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>>55257545
*blocks your path*

>>55280260
Can't even support their own weight above water as adults.

>>55280295
Who needs walking when you can teleport

>>55268004
Same height as Imperials and Dunmer, lorelet.

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>>55257304
Bretons. 100% magic resist and the Boots of Blinding speed make you The Flash. Add on 1 point constant effect Levitate, Atronach Birthsign with Summon Ancestral ghost, and you are a god.

In terms of lore, I'm sure they mostly average out. Altmer are the best wizards with a longer lifespan, and Redguards seem to have Bethesda sucking their dick at every turn, though.

So, I have a question, and this is probably the best place to ask it.

I was playing skyrim the other day because the internet was out and I had nothing to do. As it happened, I looked up during the night, and found that Skyrim's sky had a rather impressive view of the milkey way.

Which begs the question, why does Nirn have a Milkey Way if all the stars are just portals to Aetherius created by Magnus' followers? Why do they take a standard galaxy pattern?

>>55282469
Because they fled reality in that pattern. Galaxy patterns in the stars has been a thing since Morrowind.

It's possible they modeled it after The Milky Way the same way Masser is most likely modeled in part after Mars and Secunda after Triton

>>55279214
>Evil Empire

You only played Skyrim didn't you?

>>55283645
And you won't say anything about Morrowind being an earlier part in the Skyrim series?

>>55283645
It's a meme dude. The TEM are great.