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>>55238261

First for plastic chaos sisters

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>>55238261

Post HQs

>>55238320
Archmagos nigger jew

>>55238320

Sir Klinker Cogsworth

>>55238320

NotFabiusBile

>>55238320
>>55238337
Archjew Magonigger

What was that name of that Nurgle spellcaster again?

>>55238320

[Document Title]

>>55238320
Faggot

>>55238356
Runnybottom Aidsbringer

>>55238320
Steelcock Faggotfucker

>>55238320
404

>>55238345
Fug I liked this one tbhfam

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>>55238303

>>55238320

Benedictus Toasterpatch

>>55238320
Beepleboop Negroidicum

>>55238320
Rusty T. Etanus, Magos of the Ironmongers

>>55238320
Chad Cogfucker

>>55238399
>negroidicum
My sides have attained orbit

>>55238389

Milky

>>55238356
Spewcesant Flumancer

>>55238399
Oh fuck

>>55238399
winrar

It's subtle enough to slip by most people, too.

>>55238398
I got a good laugh out of it.

>>55238320
Niggerjew Kike-Gasser

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>>55238303
Here is mine.

>>55238419
I didnt paint Zendrehk with milk, dont worry.

>>55238320
Dr. Faglord

>>55238433

I like your Lord's dress. Were does he shop?

seriously though they look good. Red was also a good choice of base color, makes the metal pop

>>55238399
Beepleboop Negroidicum it is.

How should I paint my admech?

>>55238399
I approve of this.

>>55238462
Paint him as a KANG

>>55238462
Decide for yourself and quit shitting up the thread.

>>55238462

With that magos...

White with red accents?

>>55238462
Black with green trim for Dark Mechanicus >:^)

>>55238462
All metal in gold. All fabric in black with Addidas stripes.

Add clocks to all chests, boy-ee

>>55238462
Black and white

I want to use a monolith and I'm willing to build around it what do I use

>>55238477
FUG that was quick. I guess this could've been a lot worse.

>>55238483
Fuck off you unfun faggot.

>>55238505
A Monolith.
20x Warriors ready to deep strike out of it
A box big enough to carry the Monolith.

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>>55238508
Paint him up as Yakub, the original KANG that made the white devil

Normal humans in the 40k universe are taking over the tourney scene. Are you happy now?

>>55238320
Belisarius Cawl.

>>55238532
Black, gold, and white might actually be pretty sweet, seconding this

>>55238599
How dare you speak to us

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Post most recent thing done

>>55238261
Did Wolf and Sister finally fugged?

>>55238462
Purple and gold

>>55238261
Did we talk about the new death guard stuff?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/death-guard-warlord-traits-stratagems-and-relicsgw-homepage-post-2/
2+ deamon princes sound fun.

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>>55238651

Not the best photo, but I found these Inquisition models buried in my backlog and painted them up.

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>>55238651
Bloop.
Was going to be a squad of four Arquebi to arm my Rangers properly, but a pair of Skitarii legs has been lost so thoroughly that searching my entire room in minute detail two or three times has not found them again. Dammit.

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So if Genestealer Cultists infiltrate a guard regiment, what do you thinkhappens if the regiment gets redeployed before shit goes down?
Do they desert and rejoin the hive, or play loyal guardsmen? What if they got sent to a different planet to fight nids from a different hive fleet?

>>55238356
Slopmaw maggotmancer

>>55238718
>Death Guard are a fun new army with a shit ton of ways to cause Mortal Wounds

how are the Ork units & heroes for FW??

I would like to be competitive w/o spamming tons of boyz . . .

Sending in the soul grinders will have us win the campaign!

>>55238774
They are the anti-3++ crew, which is cool

>>55238261
Hey anons is it just me or is GW doing an amazing job at hunting down free codex downloads this version? I can't seem to find any

>>55238784

Nothing too exciting

>DG horde army getting buffed
>hordes all day everyday anywhere everywhere
>TFS playing an elite army

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55238803 (you)

>>55238762
Add tubes and wiring.

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>>55238718
Mortal wounds are scary all right, but can't help thinking cloud of flies will turn out to be the real winner. 1CP to make a unit invincible to shooting (not even snipers can target them)? Yes please! If DG do end up getting havocs, or some shooting infantry unit as a replacement, then that'll be pretty nasty.

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>>55238718
>JUST SHOVE MORTAL WOUNDS RIGHT UP THEIR aSSES M-MORTY
>aww jeez GW
>SHOVE EM WAY, WAAY UP THERE. JUST A TON OF FUCKING MORTAL WOUNDS

Is Karybdis Assault Claw really OP or is dakka being retarded again?

>>55238718
>>55238774
Deathguard are the most boring army in the entire game. Nothing about them is fun to play against.

>>55238856

They are a nice way to drop 20 zerkers, with a termi sorcerer warptiming them and guaranteeing t1 charge.

But they are also expensive as hell.

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This stratagem on Helbrutes, Heldrake, MaulerFiend or Defiler is gonna be horrifying shit.

>>55238856
Who's dumb enough to clump units together for 20 berzerkers to be effective anyway?

>>55238790
I don't get this meme, but where the fuck did Soul Grinders go?

I've no idea if they're good or shit or what

>>55238891
He says BEFORE the army is reliased, like a silly bitch

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>>55238844
>>55238718
So, if the Death Guard gimmicks are being stupid tough and spamming Mortal Wounds, what the fuck are the Thousand Sons going to be doing now?

>>55238856
dakka is being retarded. It's a decent transport for CSM, but a terrible fire platform

Anyone know the dimensions of gigantic chaos spawn and the base size? Looking to scratch build one, might be a golem made of skulls. Other suggestions are appreciated

>>55238954
Spam mortal wounds but with their brains
nu-gw strikes again

>>55238954
Spells,and resistance to D1 weapons, but we wont know fully until the TS codex comes out

>>55238933
You can play death guard right now you stupid faggot lmao. The codex will probably just make them even more lame to play against.
Also
>reliased

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>>55238303
Bobby G I painted for a friend back in April.

>>55238982
You cant play their dedicated codex, you can play their shitty index, which, like all indexs, is siht
also
>being butthurt over spelling on a North Korean nuclear engeering board

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>>55238651
I don't even know why I'm making him aside from I want to. Don't plan on fielding him(her?) much.

>>55238854
I was kind of hoping "Mortal Wounds out the ass" would be the Admech thing, but I guess the psyker armies have a better claim on that. Not sure why they gave it to Death Guard, though, they already have a thing in being hard as nails T5 dudes.

I guess AMech is the "Do things on sixes" army, with Rending, Taser, Electroleech/Transonic and Volkite. We'll need a +1 To Hit or To Wound outright from somewhere to make good use of it, though.

>>55238954
Psychic powers. Also note that pretty much everything on the Death Guard is an aura. They have to sit on top of you to do any of their stuff. Thousand son's will be zapping from afar.

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>tfw the Captain in Gravis armor still can't be purchased on his own.

>>55238982
Index Death Guard are one of the weakest armies in the game.

>>55239014
IG index is pretty powerful senpai

>>55238954
SMITSMITESMITESMITESMITE

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>>55238303
RAWR

>>55239040
Only becuase of conscript spam and comisairs, the rest is okay to poor vs codex armies

>>55239044
As a GK player it's fucking hilarious to ignore the Rule of 1 when playing against TSons and just spam and deny powers constantly. It becomes a psychic dick measuring contest.

>>55238261
you bring 8 squads of 50 conscripts: 1200pts
then, 4 company commanders: 120pts
and finally 4 commissars: 135 pts
you'd still have enough points to bring a sentinel, just for fucking fun
at 9 command points, this is the most OP list of 8th ed

>>55238954
Hopefully big warp explosions and killing what's left with rubrics

>>55238958
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gigantic+chaos+spawn+base+size

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>>55239048
Also, SLUUURP

>>55239064
>Conscript spam is good
welcome to like 2 months ago bucko

>>55238954

More warp sorcery?

It would be cool if they could release a new TS vehicle or maybe allow to play Kairic Acolytes and/or Tzaangors on discs from AOS.

>>55239022
ebay?

>>55239051
More than that. Mortar HWT, Scions and Taurox Prime are rather absurd. Plus there are many other straight up strong options.

>>55239064
No it isn't. The most OP lists run between 150-200 Conscripts and use them for their actual job - area denial - and they fill the rest with heavy weapons, artillery, and plasma scions.

>>55239014
I didn't say you could play the codex I said they're boring.
>>55239030
Ok?

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Worst stratagem ever. 3CP are they for real?

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>>55239018
>do things on 6s - the army
>give +1 to things as HQ/Cant/Strategem or something
Fuck. I would kill for that. 33% chance to deal mortals at 24"+ range? HNNNNG.
>mfw if this comes true

>>55239096
>I didn't say you could play the codex I said they're boring.
>playing only a fraction of the unique flavour of an army is boring
Cant tell until the book is done silly

>>55239108
pretty shit desu senpai, seeing as most charicters have to be in a rhino to get anywhere

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>>55238303
Papa. I'm waiting for a new GUO release so he can have a lady friend.

>>55239075
Conscript heavy IG just won the NOVA Open and Invitational. They won the BAO before that. When people say conscripts spam at this point they mean 100-150 conscripts. Not retarded all conscripts mathhammer exercises.

>>55239108
Obviously you need to get stuck in, but that has the potential to do a fuck-ton of damage. Probably still better off with 1 or 2 CP stratagems that buff the effectiveness of units.

Command points and stratagems are rapidly proving that GW still has no ability to balance their shit.

>>55239124
Mortarion is a Character. This lets him double rot if he gets in a particularly good position.

>>55239124
As of right now they're boring. I never said anything about a codex or that they would continue to be boring after it is released, sweetie.

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why have releases crawled to a fucking halt? 2 months ago there was new info and whatnot every day, but now that gw has blown it's load with the primaris releases it seems like everything is just dead.

I was under the impression that all the armies would have codexes within months of each other, but utt seems like we're going right back to the same shit of previous editions where some codexes might be a year or more behind.

>>55239116
Yfw doctrina imperatives return as a stratagem for +1, 2, or 3 based on how many CP spent.

>>55239166
We know five codexes that are coming out in the next three months.

>>55239008
That looks so good, anon. Wish I was good at painting....

>>55239166
2 months ago the new edition was launching and they were pushing it. Now we just got past the release of the General's Handbook update and are spinning back into 40k releases again.

Fucking newfags always bitching about this when this is the fastest we've ever gotten new releases one after another in the history of the fucking game, jesus.

>>55239197
Truth

>>55239161
Oh, good point. still 3 CP seem pretty fucking mental though for max, like 8 mortal wounds. MAX

>>55238841
I did consider that. I'll probably stick a few more on, since I have some spare from various parts and kits, but I wanted to keep them reasonably simple. When I make some greenstuff cabling for my Archmagos' web base I'll add a few to the rest of the boys too.

>>55239116

I mean, Necrons have one or two weapons that do that, almost all Taser, and they are allowed My Will Be Done (which is a fucking awesome rule name). I think it's one of the things I would either do to Canticles to make them worth using or put as a HQ aura for an Archmagos type, since at the moment we have a whole bunch of overlapping Reroll Ones buffs.

>>55239174

>Taser volleys from Corpuscarii on a 3+
>Expected 6.5 S5 hits per Corp Priest, fuck you hordes

I mean, if that's a thing it would probably be Skitarii only, but a man can dream. If it's Skittle only I'd rather it be To Wound boosts, since we have hardly any where Marines can just add a cheap-as-chips Lt. Maybe the Lt. aura on a Skitarii Primus, given GW appears to rather lack imagination for varying HQ buffs around.

>>55239179
Given how many codexes that still leaves, we probably will have armies lagging at least a year behind. Since most factions aren't getting new models anyways, they should really be churning out like two or three codexes a month.

The codex/no-codex divide is pretty rapidly killing the whole "8e is super balanced" claim, and attendance at the FLGS has been steadily declining for the past month.

>>55238662
no, its loken and the rememberancer bitch from horus rising

>>55239051
>>55239091
Don't forget Manticores throwing out S10 shots like it's a whirlwind.

Why do purity seals have no in-game effect? I think all space marine units and characters should get a 4+ save against all psychic effects & mortal wounds from psychic powers. It's a joke that Guilliman dies to mortal wound spams from fartcasters.

Won't happen as only chaos is allowed to get nice things since games workshop worships at the edgelord altar.

>>55239234
>they should really be churning out like two or three codexes a month.
>4 Codexes already out in 2 months
>6 more coming in the next 3 months
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr math is hard

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>>55238651
Flag still needs to be done

>>55239257
Nice b8 m8

>>55239234
Well of course. There are twenty plus factions. This is still incredibly fast.

>>55239234
All the current top performing armies don't have codex's. Guard, Sisters, Orks, Nids etc..

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>>55239257
They have an effect, though not in-game. Use them to cover up badly painted spots.

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Oh son of a fucking bitch

>>55239234
>The codex/no-codex divide is pretty rapidly killing the whole "8e is super balanced" claim
How the fuck do you figure, the strongest armies are all Index-only

>>55239174
>Arquebus deals mortal wound on a 3
>Cancer guns deal 2 on a 3
>Fulgurites do mortals on a 3
>So do rusties.
>6 hits per infiltrator
>Probably 9 per dragoon
>And your fucking 45 point guns don't miss on a 2 anymore.

I didn't know how much I wanted this until now.

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>>55238651
More Sisters.

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>>55239299
>Those digits we all know who was behind this.

>>55239127
Hello fellow Nurglite, can you tell me how did you get that skin color ?

>>55239307
Armies need codex's to get much needed nerfs ;)

>>55239222
Either way, all I want are some decent buffs to get us even with the stronger armies right now. Feels like we're in a weird spot if strength right now in subspace.

>>55239309
Stop STOP
I can only get so erect anon

>>55239208
Mortal wounds are powerful. And this is still almost "Smite everything within 7." It's probably better for them to err on too expensive rather than too cheap.

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I liked chaos spawn and possesed since 3ed especialy spawns cuz one pf my fav chaos flavours were Lost and Damned. Usualy my cultist had champion with "wind of chaos" power and I found pleasure in turning oponent big boys in to my spawn. My biggest trophy is dully decked Tyrant.
I miss LatD. Im glad that in 8th spawns look like unit woth having.
Pic of wip of my pets.

>>55239208
Bring Fateweaver and horrors for extra CP.

It's fluffy cause they're both chaos :^)

>>55239386
You gotta try giant chaos spawn from the forge world index if you haven't already. One of the most fun units in the game.

>>55239434
Can't you just make your own by pouring some glue in a tyranid/chaos bitz box?

>>55239434
Not that anon, but what are the dimensions on one? I want to build one and give it a go and don't care for the FW model

>>55239455
We used a 100mm round because we just had one around and it looked closer to fw, but I dunno what it actually is.
But really even gw doesn't give a shit about base sizes so just do what feels right.

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>>55238803
It's you.

>>55238803
Someone get this man a cheeta!

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>>55239535
Hey you sold that dude on eBay! How much did he end up going for?

>>55239535
Primaris legion of the damned? I feel like that doesn't work.
Neat looking model though.

>>55238718
>Cloud of Flies: Mortarion gets to do whatever the fuck he wants for one CP a turn
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GW BALANCE LOOOOL

>>55239571
Is that big ass bitchboy infantry?

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>>55238303
>>55238303

Got some extra scratch, looking at a FW order. Play SM, and have some IG.
Suggestion for best ITC unit?

>>55239606
>Mortarion
>not infantry
Do you even lore

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>>55239626
Lmao does he have the infantry keyword you fat neckbeard

>>55239287
That is one pure mother fucker.

>>55239637
Why wouldn't Mortarion, famous for his infantry-dominated war doctrine, be infantry in his own infantry-dominated army, you soporific pustule

Why is Tau the best race

>>55239606
>>55239626
are you fucking retarded? You don't use cloud of flies on mortarion, you put cloud of flies on an infantry so mortation
>gets to do whatever the fuck he wants for one CP a turn

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>>55238303

Made him today.

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>>55239627

Booty shot.

>>55239257
>Dumb bitch boi dies to psychic might
Gee I wonder why

>>55239658
It depends if he can deep strike. If he can, you put him behind a wall of Deathshroud and stick Cloud of Flies on him so he can't draw any aggro should any charges fail.

>>55239658
Because he's a giant daemonic abomination.

Same reason Magnus and even Guilliman aren't INFANTRY, but MONSTERS

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>>55239287
He actually did it, the absolute madman.

>>55239051
The fuck are you talking about, you can barely even write English

>>55239655
Because this is GW and they do whatever the fuck they want.
Daemon princes (which mortarion is) don't have the infantry keyword. It's a completely valid question you fedora tipping,smelly retard :^)

>>55239655
See
>>55239713
Oh, look a retard.

>>55239434
I rly wana use it but dont have model so far....im lookin for some broken tyranid model on webz to buy and convert.

>>55239556
>Ferrus Manus

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>>55239656
waddya stupid or sumthn?

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>>55238462

black, silver, and copper.

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>>55238766
they would serve as loyal guardsmen, and use the opportunity to infect distant planets. The cult infects laterally across the world, so they can lose men and still maintain an infrastructure of infection.
A tyranid deployment would kick off the revolution early, with the cult eventually dying screaming to a swarm of teeth and claws.

>>55238505
Don't. Unless you are playing against people that are bringing fluffy lists (thing playing against 7th Orks) you will have a very bad time. You are paying almost as much as a knight with no invul save and no transport rules so units that come out can't move and if it gets popped your unit is just gone, no rolling needed. If you think 20 wounds with just a 3+ save will last more than one round you are kidding yourself or you opponent is playing softball with you.

>>55239903
Although seeing as a Guard recruitment takes the best soldiers from the PDF, and GSC tend to work extra hard to not attract suspicion, isn't it entirely possible that most if not all of their infiltrators in the PDF get drafted?

And once the Guard have been called to a planet and arrived there, there generally isn't a population to infect, just a warzone

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>>55239658
Morty has too many wounds. He can be targeted even if he's not the closest model.

>>55239863
Ah yes Forgeworld Dur'ceia rival to Forgeworld Ener'ger

Would it be too odd for my khornate space marine warband to be honorable and hold up to khornes code of not hurting the weak and destitute but being blood thirsty annihilators when against an actual foe?

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Can you say someone can be a genuine fan of warhammer40k without having played a single match of the actual tabletop game.

This person consumed most of the video games, books and comics released under games workshop. Do you agree these represent the overarching story that is warhammer over the tabletop? Or no.

>>55239969
did you not read what swarm of flies does?
if a unit like pox walkers or some plauge marines has it on them then morty can advance freely without being targeted.

And even if morty is infantry why the hell would you want to put a giant target on him (althouhg late game makes sense if you want to keep some other units alive)

>>55239998
I m pretty sure there are more 40k fans who never touched a model than who did not.

>if a unit in melee is closer than a character, then that character can't be shot at
I thought this edition was supposed to be good.

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>>55239607
She's pretty fucking hot

>>55239998
Barely anyone here actually plays, but we're still here. Make of this what you want.

>>55239989
Make them really edgy "nothin' personnel" type of guys, who just pass by weaker or unworthy foes. "Nah kiddo, I'm looking for a REAL fight!"

>>55239998
They have read a small slice of knowledge in a vast library, they like the way the library feels and the atmosphere, but they only have read the one shelf of books

>>55239900
Are sisters players getting bitter?

>>55239998
yes, you can like the universe as a separate entity, just don't be a fag about it.

hardcore fluff fags are a cancer on 40k. i say this because the game came before the fluff.

>>55240006
Why do you illiterate fucks try to play a game involving multiple books of rules? Cloud of Flies basically makes a unit a Character; it doesn't force the enemy to target it.

>>55240019
The protection would be pretty trivial to invalidate if that wasn't the case. Character targeting restrictions are mostly just an alternative to having characters join units. Nothing to get triggered by.

What are some good chaos cultist proxies?

>>55240006
Your confused I think. The cloud goes on the thing you don't want them to shoot.
If you were to put pox walkers in front of Morty and then put the cloud on them, Morty is going to get shot, not advance freely. And what's more it doesn't help the pox walkers if they're already closer.

>>55240074
Are you looking for something cheaper to buy or something cooler looking?

55239735
That's all you've got, isn't it? Leddit accusations all day erry day.

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>>55240037
You act as though it's a simple task to stroll over to a model shop and dish out money that could buy 5 video games on steam, all for a 5 cm plastic model that can't move. Then try to paint the thing when you have terrible hand eye coordination.

>Enemy models can only shoot this unit if it is the closest available target
Man that wording is bad.
"This unit is only able to be shot at (targeted) if it is the closest target to the shooter"
But it can totally be read as
"Enemies can ONLY shoot this unit, if it is the closest target to them (the shooters)"
too.
Dammit GW

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could any of y'all neckbeards gimme a hand? I've been looking for a short story for a year now. I remember bits and pieces of it involving like a marine walking through Slaanesh's realm, denying himself all the available pleasures before ultimately falling when he looked upon Slaanesh, can't recall if it's an official short story or something fan written. Thanks in advance.

>>55240059
>because the game came before the fluff
There may not have been as much lore set in stone, but the early editions of the game were very much about playing a scenario you & your opponent had come up with for the story, rather than just playing for the sake of winning a game.

>>55240019
>Can't overwatch a character if there are closer enemies to you even though the charge clearly moves the enemy character closer if it resolves.

>>55240134
>in the charge phase

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>>55238303
Canoness Veridyan stat line when?

>>55240092
>being this retarded
Try not being a mouth breathing newfag, anon :^)

>>55240134
>even though the charge clearly moves the enemy character closer if it resolves.
>resolving charges before overwatch
>not realizing that Overwatch is resolved FIRST and THEN you roll a Charge move

>>55240134
Consistent with how everything works in overwatch. Flamers for example.

>>55240006
>
You are a fucking idiot.

It says "Until the start of your next Movement phase, enemy models can only shit this unit if it is the closest visible target".

That means:
That unit can only be shot at if it's the closest visible target. If it's not the closest visible target then it cannot be shot.

It does NOT mean:
When an enemy unit is selecting a target to shoot at they must select this unit if it the closest visible target.

>>55240134
You can target characters whenever you want outside of the shooting phase.

>>55240114
Can you indicate how those interpretations are different? My brain can not.

>>55240047
What about..?

>>55240150
Never ever. best accept it now.

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>>55238303
I upgraded one plague marine to a banner bearer so technically he's now a HQ.

>>55240090
Cooler. If you know of any cheaper models I'm open to it, though.

>>55240197
He's trying to be autistic about whether it denies you permission from shooting them or if it requires you to shoot at them if they're closer.

>>55240114
No, it's not.

For the second case it would say - "can shoot only this unit if" instead of "can only shoot this unit if"

If you're a burger than I understand that English is hard for you.

If you're a britfag then I understand that English is hard for you.

>>55240197
I'm not being as clear as I could be sorry
>"This unit can't be shot unless it's the closest"
or
>"This unit must be shot if it is the closest"
The phrase "can only shoot this unit" is giving mixed signals basically. RAW lawyering bullshit is possible but the intent is pretty clear (I think?)

>>55240126
because when the game was new ocdonutsteel chapters -were- the story. now you have fags who try to dictate your list because "reeeee my fluff!!!"

>>55240197
Don't bother, anon. I don't know why, but we've had MtG players shitting up threads with wilful rule misinterpretations since 8th launched. You can't reason or use logic on MtG players because unless "reason" and "logic" have been defined in a rulebook they don't accept that they exist.

>>55240197
The correct interpretation says - you can select that unit as a target if it's the closest enemy unit you can see. If it's not the closest, shoot something else.

The incorrect interpretation says: If that unit is the closest visible target then you can shoot only that unit and no other.

>>55240250
Maybe the flies prevent you from not shooting this unit when closer?

>>55240227
I really like the hollow hood on the plague caster.
Might have to do that on mine.

>>55240146
>>55240164
>>55240193
>Overwatch is resolved like a normal shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy’s Charge phase) and uses all the normal rules except that a 6 is always required for a successful hit roll, irrespective of the firing model’s Ballistic Skill or any modifiers.

Do you actually think this means you can shoot characters? Why?

/tg/ tell me are skull cannons worth it in this edition?

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>>55238303

Metallica Tech Priests

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This is how I Word Bearer Cultist.

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>fly up the board
>charge turn 1
>pop the cloud of flies
>no one can shoot anything but this heldrake now
>your army is now immune to all shooting for 1cp

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>>55240308

>>55240284
I feel like you could thematically say either

"there are so many flies around that we're limited to shooting this one unit in close range"
or
"our shooting is ineffective at long range against that other unit because of all these flies so we shouldn't even bother"

Since it's targeted on one friendly unit though and not a debuff it makes sense that it's similar to the character targeting prevention system

>>55240308
Because although the normal rules include the character rules, it's explicitly not the shooting phase.

>>55240352
Nice Heldrake.

>>55240371
It's not mine.

So, for an Armoured Sentinel that isn't intended for use as a heavy flamer/chainsaw berserker, is the utility of the missile launcher a good call or is the plasma cannon a better all-rounder?

>>55240352
Doesn't work. Raptors now...

>>55240355
Yeah, but, "uses all the normal rules" doesn't read to you as, "apply shooting per the shooting pass are rules"?
I mean if it doesn't and that got FAQd or something then I'm ha you because I'm sick of not being able to overwatch kharne, but I haven't seen any official word or even community consensus.

>>55240227
>>55240305
Nobody likes the babyface, I converted mines with the Blightkings :)
Anon, where did you get the Scythe?

>>55240019
The only thing it has going for it is that it's better than 7th.

In the same way that death by stabbing is better than death by a boa that is on fire.

>>55240381
Scout Sentinel is always better choice. Period.

If you want fire support in you FA slot, take Tauros Venators.

>>55240105
It is a simple task.

t.guy who's done it

>>55240414
Analogy error; Death by flaming boa is awesome, 7th was not awesome.

>>55240414
>death by stabbing is better than death by a boa that is on fire.
Fuck you, I'll die the badass Boa way thankyou.

>>55240352
>Using Cloud of Flies on a Heldrake
>Thinking a Heldrake is an INFANTRY unit

>>55240421
But I like Armoured Sentinels.

>>55238356
Flumucus Feverweaver

>>55238356
Trioculus Trouserpress

>>55240397
...It got FAQ'd. They stated that you can target characters in overwatch.

>>55238844
This one seemed like the best out of the whole article, the others ranged but mostly mehish.

>>55240466
Fucking yes, thanks /tg/ I should complain about annoying rules more often.

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>>55240440
>big unit of raptor drop down behind a tank
>assault it
>pop some flies
>army is immune to shooting turn 1 for 1cp

>>55240442
I'm so sorry.

>>55240484
That's a perfectly valid use of Flies

>>55240484

That's not how that stratagem works.
Read it again.

>>55238356
Billy Bob Bobilly

>>55240484
>Throw in a Sorcerer w/ a Jump Pack / Terminator Armour from the <GUARDIANS OF DEATH> Warband to Warp Time those Raptors in point blank.

For low points necron games is it a good idea to go 2 destroyers and one heavy? or should I just commit to one or the other?


Tomb blades good?

Command barge useful generally? or only if im going to move up the table?

>>55240555
Necrons suck, play conscripts.

>>55240555
>Necrons
>8th edition
Pick one

>>55240519
No it isn't.

>>55240484
Except that's not how the cloud works at all, it protects the unit you use it on from shooting (As long as they aren't the closest), the rest of your shit is as vulnerable as ever.

You can even see the rule as intended in their little introduction to the stratagem, they say it is used to protect a key DG INFANTRY unit from fire for a turn. UNIT, singular.

It's to protect a key backline unit from getting krumped first turn

>>55240397
Yeah that's exactly how it reads and the character entry specifically says the targeting restriction is only in the shooting phase

why aren't you fighting for the greater good?

>>55240613
Cause the lesser bad is more fun

>>55240322
Not really. They used to be rather nice in 7th with ignore cover AP3 blasts and the combined formation massive shot but now they are kinda meh.

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Load a rhino with some annoying dudes, advance it up, pop smoke and cast the -1 to hit spell on it. Then use the cloud of flies stratagem on anything behind the advancing rhino which will be super tough to hit, after you can use putrid detonation on it.

Very cool.

>>55240613
Because I can choose not to, unlike Tau

>>55240639
>implying any other race has a choice

>>55240571
>>55240573
If I wanted snide cunt remarks Id of gone to reddit

>>55240637
Why didn't you just use it on some backfield raptors and go to town?

>>55240653
There is always a choice: fight for the greater good, or against it.
>>55240657
>id of
Perhaps you should.

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>>55240402
It's half the original Lord of Contagion, half from the Maggoth Rider ( I got the flies from there as well)

Anyone here know Genestealer Cults? I'm looking to get into them after picking up Deathwatch Overkill and not finding a buyer for the tyranid half. I already picked up an extra squad of Genestealers, and I've got Militarum Tempestus from my general Inquisition army to use as Guard, but what else is good?

>>55240658
Because you use it on your advancing army, not the unit you're deep striking (since they'll almost certainly be the closest unit). Send a unit of Nurglings forward and have your hot shit stand behind them with Cloud of Flies up. Nurglings are going to be cancer because of CoF.

>>55240716
Lol, but why not just send in raptors to be the cloest unit so they HAVE to shoot them and let the rest of your army be literally invicible?

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>>55238303

>>55240741
They don't HAVE to shoot them. Read the rule.

>>55240575
What is?

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Wait hold on, what prevents you from doing this with any thing with FLY? Does Skarbrand prevent fallback?

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>it's a /tg/ purposely misunderstands simple rules to shitpost episode

>>55240637

Hi BenV94. Don't worry I updooted your comment on Reddit too. ;^)

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>>55240752
(You) try reading it.

>>55240771
Skarbrand prevents falling back, as he imbues his anger into anyone around him.

>>55240784
Lollllllllllllll you are dumb

Nice bait. You got me.

>>55240780
>BenV94
What happened to the other 93 Bens? Is there a BenV0?

>>55240227
I never thought I'd see vapourwave DG.

>>55240575
>Raptors are DEATH GUARD INFANTRY
>Cloud of Flies targets a DEATH GUARD INFANTRY unit
>No it isn't

And why's that?

>>55240839
>Raptors are DEATH GUARD
Incorrect.

>>55240839
He's tring to say flies in your face ARENT distracting.

>>55240117
It's in the daemons 6/7th edition codex in the section on Slaanesh. It is presumed to be Draigo.

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>>55240637
This.
It was my strat before, and it is more so my strat now.
Now i can swamp my enemy in a unit of 20 Possessed that they can't target because of my two advancing rhinos.
Run them as Tainted and use Necrosius (Yeah, yeah, Forge World, but he's fucking cool) that is in one of the rhinos to give them and the gaggle of plague marines in there with them +1 to hit with attacks in the fight phase.
Have a chaos lord as the warlord (assuming that a named character will be forced into a warlord trait) and give him arch contaminator for the would re-rolls on plague weapons, and hit re-rolls of 1.
Leave the flank as cultists/poxwalkers, and/or have some nurglings and a Herald of Nurgle as a separate detachment (fleshy abundance, so good).

>>55240864
Please tell me he ends up carving someone's name into Fulgrim's leftmost testicle.

>>55240851
You are correct (at least Index!Death Guard)

Now the codex might change that / add a Death Guard equivalent.

>>55240901
No, it won't.

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>>55240780
Ty senpai :)

>>55240864
Except Draigo is doing just fine as of 8th
Skyaeping with various GMs

>>55240934
True. Then I want to know who the fuck it is. Maybe a new champion for a future Slaanesh update?

>>55240864
>presumed to be Draigo.
Considering Draigo appeared in Gathering Storm to help in Rise of the Primarchs that is probably debunked.
>Trying to find an online copy of the text for Silver Knight of Slaanesh

>>55240229
I like Necromunda gangers. Basically everyone except Van Saar make great cultists.

>>55240696
Oh thanks, I will hunt that bit.

>>55240980
You go to be the stupidest mofo around here. The story happened in the Warp so its position in the temporal spectrum is totally whack. It could have happened in the past, the future, or simultaneously.

In AoS and 40K, there are events where persons met their future selves. For example, the new Black Legion novel.

>>55240980
Huh? I read the whole series. Wasn't his whole contribution promoting Voldus an indeterminate amount of time before the series began?

Any tau bro's here who can tell me if Longstrike is any good as an hq choice? Running a mechanized infantry list and would be nice to have him as a buff for my other hammerhead.

>>55241034
Makes sense; Opening up ADB's latest books makes my life flash before my eyes too.

>>55240934
see
>>55241034

Draigo has a fallen. There is no other Silver Knight space marine in the Warp with the mental fortitude to make across all the circles in Slaanesh's realm to reach Slaanesh.

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>>55240875
Mah boii

ps: yes I am why arent you holding one?

>>55241052
Hi Matt!

>>55241052
Fuck you, Matt!

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>>55241103
Shut up.

Here is the WHFB End Times story that featured a giant Silver Knight in the Realm of Chaos. Tell me this isn't Draigo.

Do the Tau fully understand the scale of the Imperium and all the other shit they're up against? Sure, they've seen Hive Worlds and a small Forge World, but they were REALLY puzzled about why all that would be necessary.
I can imagine they might have a few morale problems if their citizens knew their entire empire is around one hundredth of a percent of the size of the Imperium in worlds and probably way less than that in population and level of industrialization/militarization.

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>>55241134

>>55241134
Doesn't your keyboard get sticky, Matt?

>>55240830
They did not mind their business, anon.
Questo è l'ultimo avvertimento, capisci?

>>55241139
The guevesa and ethereals at least know. Would be hard to keep that canned. Though GW likes to keep an air of naivety to the Tau.

>>55241160
I don't speak spaghetti, what does this say?

>>55241139
It's annoying when people like you refuse to read the fluff. I mean we have novels from Tau PoV where they acknowledge that the Imperium is impossibly huge at a galactic scale but its hampered by its corruption and stupidity. La'Kais from the Fire Warrior novel downloaded public data about the Imperium that says that there is, according to the latest estimates, 10K humans for every Tau in the galaxy.

These facts do not disturb the Tau because they have a manifest destiny that will defeat all the odds before them.

>>55241196
This is the last warning, do you understand?
t. spaghetti

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>>55241147

>>55241139
You know, waaay back when the Tau first came out I was one of those 'it'd be better if they were in charge of the Imperium' fags, but with each subsequent edition GW bigged them up with one hand while neutering them with the other. So now we're supposed to believe that they're major galactic players when it's painfully obvious that they don't have the first fucking clue as to what's going on. The final nail for me was in the 6ed Farsight codex where they retconned away the species having FTL. I was stunned that the writers could be that stupid. I don't even know if they've fixed that yet, but it just made the Tau as a playable faction absurd.

Is it just me or are Tzaangors really awkward? Too expensive for use as disposable screeners (almost twice as expensive as Cultists), but not really good enough in any other aspect to threaten the opponent.

Maybe if they had some pseudo-infiltrate Stratagem or we weren't capped at a single Warptime, but I just can't seem to get them to do anything other than get gunned down in the midfield.

>>55241034
It's why I was looking for a copy of the text. I know in MOST codices they give dates to their blurbs and I don't recall if Codex Daemons is the same or not.

>>55241036
And yes Draigo gave a battlefield promotion to Voldus AFTER Magnus in Wrath of Magnus popped the old GM's head and AFTER the replacement GM died.

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>>55241219

>>55241139
There's at least one piece of fluff where a tau describes to another tau (think it was a pair of water caste diplomats) how big the imperium is, but don't have the screencap saved. It's the one with the line about "do not ignore the gue'la, for I fear they will not ignore us for much longer" in it, if anyone has that.

>>55241221
Except they brought it back. The Tau got their skim drives at sometime in the TSE. Source is the "Storm of Damocles".

>>55241134
>>55241147
>>55241219
>>55241239
Wow Matt, if I wanted to read a book, I'd go to the library. Lmao at your life.

>>55241238
It's in the 6th ED daemon codex. Download it. It's just a story in the Slaanesh section. It has no date. It's purpose was to explain the individual circles in Slaanesh's Realm and tease Draigo fans.

>>55241285
Can we please get a summary narrated by Aku, God of Slaanesh?

>>55241257
The novelists ignored the 'they don't have FTL' bullshit from day 1, and rightly so, but if you start calling the novels canon the hordes of "only the splats are canon reeee" harpies will descend from the skies.

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Since GW hinted at some new xeno stuff recently, and most people feel a whole army is unlikely, what do you think it means? I think most people are thinking a new race will be added to the Tau lists or xeno mercenaries. If it's the first one, what would get you to start a Tau list (if you don't have one already)?

I'd go in if the Hurd started to get some figs.

>>55241225
Tzaangors are so awkward that they work

They act as stronger cultists so your opponents can't just ignore them, but they're expendable enough so you don't have to care too much if you lose them or not.

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How are Scions this edition? They look better in every way and being troop choices would help with the otherwise low CP a vehicle heavy army I would like to has to offer.

>>55240484
DG can take raptors?

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>>55241304
Except the WD fluff article about the races and their relationship with the Warp aso says they have skim drives.

>>55241339
Every legion had raptors dingus.

>>55241011
It's really good for a maulerfiend too. Pretty decent box.

>>55241320
I think Hrud would be genuinely cool, but aren't they basically just slime in big coats?

>>55241285
>Download it.
Have the codex at home.

>It has no date.
Perfect, basically what I wanted to double-check.

>It's purpose was to explain the individual circles in Slaanesh's Realm and tease Draigo fans.
Read it before, but couldn't recall if it was dated or not. Because if it was, could have been debunked due to timeline. But still valid.

>Since it has no timeline, could the Silver Knight be Lorgar himself Pre-Heresy? Not too familiar with Horus Heresy, but from his FW model it appears he had silver/metallic armour.

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>>55241303
I win. The End.

>>55241341
>removing BFG lore
I hate nuGW

>>55241333
Top tier if used as part of a wider IG army. Not bad as a pure force.

>>55241341
Thank fuck. Where's that from? I've not been paying as much attention as I should.

>>55241367
It lacks the
>FOOLISH WANDERER

>>55241216
Bravo, bravo.

>>55241391
Care to translate?

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>>55241376
This issue.

>>55241354
I am tight on budget but it was something I was contemplating. Using the box for a dread/fiend body adding on top mechanic elements, and use the head(s) for a vindicator or something.

>>55241357
For now at least. I'd like to think that's mostly because GW has been keeping their options open with the Hurd all these years, so that when/if they decided to do them, they'd be able to flesh them out in any way they like without contradicting earlier stuff.

>>55241207
>they have a manifest destiny that will defeat all the odds before them
Well, they believe it will. I suspect at some point they may have a slight difficulty with the Imperial fleet being comparatively fuckheug and much faster than theirs outside of their little star cluster. Hard to expand like space rabbits when your fleets are that vulnerable to being jumped or outmaneuvered, and if I remember my BFG right they've got mostly very nasty prow guns and missiles.

Then again, Breachers and their pulse shotguns would be damn nasty in Zone Mortalis. Do we have any fluff about how the Tau handle those kind of situations?

>>55241407
Thanks, I dropped White Dwarf during the Dark Times.

>>55241333
Better in every way compared to Veterans*

>>55241371
I'm pretty tank heavy so I'm thinking since I refuse to screen with huge Conscript blobs they can be helpful with their Tauroxes

>>55240227
Might comp thw face of your plague caster. I really don't like the puffy cheeks.

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>>55241352
They don't anymore. No terminators either. Seriously, they aren't giving DG anything from the codex back, only the new sets.

>>55241434
>Do we have any fluff about how the Tau handle those kind of situations?

>the Tau consider, for a moment, boarding the enemy vessel with their breachers.
>naturally theu laugh it off a minute later due to their poor initiative.