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YOU DIE NOW!
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>>55221208
1
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>>55221214
into 2
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>>55221208
Deadeye Whatever 3U

Creature - Human Pirate

When ~ enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an Equipment or a Vehicle card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. If you do, shuffle your library.

2/2
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>>55221249

Why the fuck is this blue????
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>>55221214
>>55221232
That seems pretty nice. Biggest issue is that 4 mana means it won't be generating quite as much value as quickly though. Granted, in Merfolk colors, that probably isnt an issue
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>>55221293
Blue gets Artifact , the same way White gets them for Enchantments and Green gets them for Creatures.
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>>55221321
*Artifact tutors
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>>55221214
2/10 would not play this in EDH decks
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>>55221214
>charge counters

There has to be an efficient way to abuse this. I just need to think harder.
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>>55221214
>>55221232

Cool idea but seems underpowered.
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>>55221249
>another woman
17 males in pirate cards vs 14 females in pirate cards
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>>55221232
primal wellspring into second sun?
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>>55221655
Wouldn't work, since the copy wouldn't do anything other than gain you 7 life.
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>>55221655
Copies aren't cast unless it specifically says so.
>>55221214
>>55221232
That's pretty spicy.
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>>55221798
Ah, that makes sense
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>>55221637
You need to find a better hobby.
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>>55221214
>>55221232
So maybe we do get a burn deck out of this set
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>>55221214
>>55221232
Neat. This'll solve some issues in my Mizzix AND Locust God!
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>>55221214
>>55221232
I qas afraud these transformers were gonna be like this. I guess the flavor is the artifact is tied to that magic place but its just meh. Treasure Map worked easily but I dont know how they can fill out that many transformers and have the flavor as spot on as ALL of innistrad's with the premise they limited themselves to fof Ixalan
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>>55221910
Hey, I'm just counting, a lot of anons claimed there were more females than males, so far is not true.
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>>55221913
What's the plan? Put in Burn spells and that Cascade Enchantment and just go for huge value with all of the high-cost burn spells we've been getting lately?

I don't feel like itll be fast enough
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>>55221321
white has historically been the color that most cares about equipment though..
it would have been more blue to just say " any artefact"
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>>55222017
>this level of entitlement over beign white
/pol/ is that way
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>>55222017
It's probably Equipment and Vehicles specifically to both fit with the Pirate themes and to make it slightly cheaper, potentially.

It's more narrow than what Blue usually does, but it's still certainly something Blue can do.
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>>55221208

Simic
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>>55222032
upboated, my friend
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>>55222001
It might not be a great deck, vut I'm sure it would be fun. Probably play it grixis with black being a splash for Torment of Hailfire.
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>>55221637
>17/14 = 1.2
The male for female ratio is still higher than real life
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>>55222095
the dinosaur to pirate ratio is also a lot higher than in real life
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>>55222050
Pretty nice that it's a 3/3 at least. Could be a nice draw engine if there are enough ways to toss out +1/+1 counters. Certainly good in limited where it'll provide more power or carss to break stalemates.
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>>55222047
I dunno man. How would you feel about a green ncard that searched an angel? It'd be weird, right? But green can do it. Can search creature. It's a subset within that.
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>>55222050
Oh hi.
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>>55222088
Yeah, the idea does seem neat. I feel like I would want to go for U to get some more instant/sorcery support and turn it into a somewhat more control style deck, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
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>>55221208

BOLT REPRINT!

Just kidding...
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>>55222001
That's the idea. I also feel like the meta might be a LOT slower after rotation. Temur (4C) Energy might be the fastest deck actually. I guess that depends on how Ramunap Red and Mardu look after rotation.
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>>55222192
I kinda wish this was searing spear instead but fine.
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>>55222127
Makes perfect sense to me. Bant has Angels in droves, and the Innistrad angels are basically all falling under WG now after the whole Eldrazi thing.

Because that's the thing you have to consider. That a Green card that searched for Angels would probably only show up in a case where Green and White were thematically linked by them, just like how this Blue pirate is thematically linked by all the boats they sail in that are vehicles along with all the sabers and cannons they might be getting.

Yeah, if you printes this card on say, Zendikar where there are no vehicles and Kor have a heavy Equipment subtheme, it'd be weird, but because we're not there, it isn't, get it?
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>>55221232

My extra turns are gonna be spicy
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>>55222192
At least it isn't Open Fire
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>>55222192
We'd never get a straight up bolt reprint, this is fantastic.
Only bad thing is if its as rare as Abrade.
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>>55222222
maybe 2 spicy
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>>55222220
Pirates have no apparent theme for equipment or vehicles in this set so far. The Legion has as many vehicles revealed so far iirc.
>Makes perfect sense to me
Oh grow up. What about Vampires? Zombies? Sphinxes? I'm not butthurt about this but don't pretend like this isn't a weird thing.
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>>55222192
ya got me/10
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>>55222222
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>>55222222
checked
your numbers are spicy
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>>55222192
more burn deck proofs?
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>>55222247
>I'm not butthurt about this

Could have fooled me
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>>55221208
>8 mana wrath on a stick that only works if you hardcast it.
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>>55221637
>Another non-sexy woman

This is the relevant point.

I have no idea what kind of incompetent idiot puts in so many female characters and fails to make a single one of them erotic.
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>>55222304
At least it's probably gonna be a one-sided Wrath, but it still feels like by that point a Dinosaur deck should have won already.
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>>55222294
To clarify, I'm not upset they gave the vehicle or equipment tutor to blue, I get the logic but can acknowledge that it's a weird choice. What I AM butthurt about is some contrarian ass bullshit like "Yeah duh an angel tutor green is the obvious place to put it it makes perfect sense hurr hurr" just to try and trivialize my point.
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AND WERE BACK BABY YEEAAA
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>>55222247
>Pirates have no apparent theme for equipment or vehicles in this set so far.
both the pirates and the vampires are vehicle based. blue/white seems to be where vehicle synnergies exist and blue/black seems to be artifacts matters.

i'm sure we will get a pirate hook or sword equipment.
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>>55222192
>Garbage shit tier bolt replacement is considered so strong it has to be in an uncommon slot now

I hate what Magic has become.
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>>55221208
I'd rather wipe all creatures repeatedly, but whatever...
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>>55222351
You laugh, but I'd take a lightning strike any day of the week over not having one.
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>>55222320
why do you need sexy cartoon women when you can just have sex with your hot girlfriend anon?
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>>55222358
delete this
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>>55222342
Maybe you should get a less trivial point then?
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>>55222378
Wow fucking zinger you got me brb killing myself now
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>>55222050
>seven mana: draw a card

Wow.
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>>55222351
Bolt being reprinted in M11 was massive mistake and they all knew it.

Bolt isn't a "fair" card, but its unfairness is very hard to recognize since its just damage

it will never, ever be in standard again, and the last time it was in standard was 7 years ago
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>>55222351
you don't play limited do you
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>>55222351
Shut your entitled fucking mouth. Bolt has warped every single format it is legal in every time it shows up. It is a card so strong that they can print a card that is quite literally half as good as it and it will still be strong.
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>>55222374

Cuz my GF be all sore after I smashed her pusspuss like a champ, obv.
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>>55222389
Hey, you're the one ragging on about how weird it is that the artifact color got slightly more specific artifact support for once.
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>>55222392
A. it's a 3/3
B. it can put counters on things
C. the card draw is repeatable
D. there are lots of other cards that naturally get counters
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>>55222424
I didn't "rag on" anything. I said "Hey, just saying it's weird blue gets to search for buffs and tools which is usually what white does and it'd be just as weird if green got a tutor just for zombies or something". I wasn't crying over it, just acknowledging it's odd. They draw even thinner lines between colors than that all the time.
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>>55222411
>Bolt has warped every single format it is legal in every time it shows up

It's not warping a format you dumb shit, it's SHAPING the format. Bolt in the format tells everyone that small creatures will be utterly trivial to kill for red. As it should be. That is literally how things should always be. A small creature against a red deck should have an average lifespan of 0.5 turns.
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>>55222451
blue creatures draw for artifacts, and have done so for a very long time.
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>>55221208
I'm happy to see WotC is no longer afraid of printing monocolored cards with more than 2 colored mana in their cost
This won't see any serious play, but it's good enough for FNM level
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>>55222457
please, even professionals admit that Bolt is an overpowered spell that should have remained in legacy/vintage.

it getting printed in M11 and then a few years later Modern encapsulating it in the format because of this was a massive mistake.

it is called the 10th power for a reason, while it isn't as strong as the power 9, its close.
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>>55221637
are you dense, the pirates are literally a faction of ragtag refugees. Why wouldn't there be women. These pirates have nothing to do with historical pirates besides their means of earning a living
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>>55222451
And yet here you are, still getting mad about it.
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>>55222192
FUCKING FINALLY
>uncommon
DAMN IT
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>>55222457
>completely invalidating the majority of 3 CMC or less creatures for one mana is not format-warping

Go look at RtR Pro Tours and see what the fuck happened when they did it last time
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>>55222457
bolt being a 1 mana, 3 damage to creature is meaningless, its only the strongest burn spell because it hits face and creatures at instant speed.

its eternally the strongest utility card there is in modern for a reason, it was never meant for that format, having access to a "power" card (10th power) in a format with no other Power 9 is.. its very telling.
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>>55222411
But anon in order for Lightning Strike to be half as good it would need to cost RR :^)
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>>55222457
I mean, the same can usually be accomplished by Magma spray or the like. Toughness 3 isn't exactly what I'd call small a lot of the time either.

I do think Red getting more cheap burn is a good thing, but not all of it also has to be instant speed and able to hit face.
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>>55222320
>/pol/tards jerk off to their magic cards and then shuffle their cards without washing their hands and then touch your cards without washing their hands and they do this on purpose because they know that another nerd touching minute amounts of their semen on a playing card is the closest they will ever get to sexual contact with another human being

Anon pls. This thread is for Magic spoilers.
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>>55222192
This is the best thing to be revealed for me.
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>>55222532
I'm laughing a lot harder at this than I should be. Thanks, Anon.
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It's weird they gave the tutor a setting specific name. That seems like a very reprintable card.
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Why does GU aggro look like it has much better potential this upcoming standard over BR, GRW, or RUG?
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>>55222533
>Toughness 3 isn't exactly what I'd call small a lot of the time either.

Most two-drops have that these days.
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>>55222633
And you're basing this on... what cards exactly? There's like two good merfolk, MAYBE 3 if you count Kopala, and I'm not sure how good any of that will be in standard, especially since I'm counting Secret Streams which really needs the right support. I hope that gold card wasnt an indicator for you.
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>>55222633
All GU options would just slot into the current Temur Energy lists. That's if they show anything better in GU which i'm not seeing.
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>>55222532
Ok 3/4 as good.
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>>55222633
Because WotC associates red aggro with burn and other types of cancerous, non-interactive forms of aggro, therefore they're overly cautious with any sort of red aggro cards.

This means red is the color of worse removal than white or black, worse combat tricks than white and green and worse creatures than pretty much every color at any cost. All red does is provide very specific utility.
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>>55222192
Ramunap cancer is barely losing anything, and now they're buffing the deck with this
Be prepared for another pro-tour with 6 monored decks in the top 8
For real, red has all the cheap removal it needs. This reprint is bad for the format.
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Doesn't the cascade enchantment combo really well with pick related?
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>>55222741
or dose the cascading all resolve before the ETB triggers?
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>>55222649
Counting from Battle from Zendikar, there are a grand total of 30 2 drops with 3 toughness. Most of them have 1 or less power, and those that don't are either legendary or come with some other drawback.

So yes, I would say that the 2 drop creatures whose p/t is specifically weighted to make them defensive and not as fragile as other small creatures.

For comparison, this is also 30 creatures out of 212 two-drops, and can be compared to the 207 creatures with toughness 3 that are 3 cmc or above.

So no, as a whole, I would not classify 3 toughness as 'small', as it only shows up on cheap creatures when theyre supposed to be overly durable.
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>>55222741
I'm not sure what you're asking. Which Cascade enchantment (there are 3) and what does an enchantment have to do with returning an instant or sorcery?
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>>55222320
This, if you're going to depict women, at least have their tits hanging out.
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>>55222050
Simic (maybe bug or bant idk) is going to be quite good this set.
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>>55222828
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>>55222741
I keep wanting to use this in a miracle deck with pic related (and other miracles obviously). I just don't know if it will work fast/consistent enough.

Anyone else tried?
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>>55222828
It's the Sunbird Invocation one. Essentially gives spells you cast Cascade
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>>55222859
>6 mana enchantment

>does nothing on its own.

you are never, ever going to beat a decent deck with this shit, go ahead, tap out on turn 6.
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>>55222192
Tfw UR control gets more 2 mana options while UB and UW will surely get shafted

Feelsbadman
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>>55222851
Why, because of that card? You're joking, right?
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>>55222741
>>55222780
>>55222859
The 'cascading' all resolves before your original cast spell enters. So hypothetically you could cast elemental, get free instant/sorcery, elemental enters, return same instant/sorcery from grave to hand.
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>>55221214
>>55221232
The Inferno Jet dream has come true.
Now we just need red players to switch away from Abrade.

>>55222741
Too slow, you're better off casting big spells and getting whatever was on top of your deck rather than set it up
Casting the enchantment is already a big setback, you can't afford to spend more time and resources into it without conceding the game
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>>55221637
Are we absolutely sure that's a woman, and not a guy who looks sort of like Weird Al?
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>>55222192
That lightning doesn't look impactful at all, bad art.
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>>55222936
>Implying it's not Carrot Top searching a prop
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>>55222222
Spicy sextups
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>>55222358
Best wurm. Or at least up there.
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>>55222982
That's not Worldspine Worm OR Armada Wurm
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>>55221525
Vendalken Articifer?
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>>55222489
>bolt
>anywhere close p9
HAHAAHA
Lemme guess you are a lil baby sissy that soiled her nappies when mean KKK bolt killed your 3/3?

>this is your average /tg/ player
Hahaa if I was as dumb as you I'd kill myself out of shame.
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>>55222988
>not engulfing slagwurm
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>>55222893
Because there are already undervalued simic cards in standard and many of the cards spoiled ineract well with them, this card included. Plus, many colorless cards like walking ballista have synergy and don't require a color splash. White and black (imo) have the best synergies with those cards as well, so a 3 color deck based in UG with a w or b splash seems plausible.

You can say I'm an idiot but if the current standard has taught me anything its that late game when you're in topdeck mode activated abilities win games, and having 2 fairly cheap ones that can either pump or draw a card is flat out good. I know this card will be a limited monster but I think its standard playable in the right deck
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>>55222346
RAMUNAP RED TIER #1
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>>55223022
>>55222893
But to clarify, no, not specifically that card. I think the best card spoiled so far is the G enchantment that draws you a card when an opponent targets your creatures.
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>>55223022
Activated abilities win games all the time, it's why they tend to be costed so high. Being repeatable activations to get value is a real thing. But you need to spend another resource besides mana, AND the 3 mana just to durdle as opposed to making a token, crewing a vehicle, burning the opponent, etc. Sorry, but I'm very nearly willing to bet cash money this card has absolutely no place in standard. I woudl actually love to be wrong because UG counter synergies is one of my favorite archetypes but you know.
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>>55223015
If you don't like Armada Wurm then you can just just get right out of my face fag.
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>>55223086
I love Armada Wurm, it's just that Engulfing Slagwurm is even better.
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>>55223065
Fair enough in that case then I guess. I still don't think that card is that great but Leovold saw legacy play and I'm pretty sure it's not because of the wheel afaik. I could MAYBE see some sort of counter deck with Ballista, Mimic, etc. maybe.
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>>55222222
S P I C Y
P
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>>55223098
That's a lie what you did there
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>>55222222
>>55222222
>>55222222
Unsleeved/MTGHQ youtube guy gtfo REEEEEE
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>>55223170
>eats your board
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>>55223200
Try to race me and my wurms faggot
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>>55223216
Nigger that's my deck too. We're like internet family.
PELAKKA WURM!
VORACIOUS WURM!
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>>55222192
Hey now, looks like WotC is making up for Open Fire...
>Uncommon
What in the fuck
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>>55223232
Please understand. I nthe mean time, enjoy playing Oen Fire at common!
This is a creature based set with large emphasis on tribal synergies. Removal is probably being made a little less common.
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>>55223231
I actually don't have a Trostani deck. But if it's any consolation, she was the card I swept the RTR prerelease with and I WANT a trostani commander deck.
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>>55223253
>This is a creature based set with large emphasis on tribal synergies.
So why nerf burn tribal?
>but creature based set!
I sometimes target creatures. That's "creature based" enough.
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>>55222192
Too bad about the shitty art though.
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>>55223346
You can always just use an older printing.
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>>55222095
Why yes, because everyone remembers all those female pirates. You have Nami, Robin and... oh wait, those aren't even real.
>>55222374
Because she told me she can't take it anymore and to use cardboard for my urges.
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>>55223368
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_piracy
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>>55223368
The most sucessful pirate of all time was a chink lady.
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Post a card only you are hyped about
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>>55223425
I'm pleased by any card that deals obscene amounts of damage, regardless of playability.
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>>55223425
I play Karlov in commander
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>>55222222
I guess you said extra dubs?
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>>55223425
Does this mean we'll have dinosaurs with 14+ butts so that the classic 13 damage isn't good enough?
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>>55222402
I play cube. The better form of limited, where even the 15th card on a pack is playable.
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>tfw the mythic foil you pull is worth less than a €
This shit needs to stop now.
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>>55223374
>>55223396
No one remembers them, exept maybe Bonnie. That's all that matters here.
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>>55223505
It was 13 in Innistrad because it had a 13 theme. Its probably 20 here because they wanted a huge number and 20 in magic is kind of the "kill" number due to life total even though it doesnt actually hit player by itself.
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>>55223475
This card is deceptively good.
I expect people to slowly incorporate it to their sideboard.

>>55223505
It would be a waste not to use this opportunity to print a ridiculous vanilla creature such as 6/18 maybe even at rare.
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>>55222346
>uncommon
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>>55223475
Also I know you know you know there will be a 1 drop 1/1 lifelinking vampire and I am dangerously close to literally the only person who cares about those
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>>55223542
That's reasonable but this is 13 damage for a direct hit. That extinctor is fuckhuge.Didn't think into the maw was Innistrad for some reason
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>>55223553
i remember the rumors about the legendary wurm from last set too.

I'd still like to see a 20/20 vanilla legend.
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>>55223575
Forgot pic
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>>55222222
2 spicy 2^2 me
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>>55223538
>facts don't matter.
>only my subjective personal feeling about something based on a misunderstanding of the facts matters.
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>>55223526
The trash mythics in this set are all appealing to casuals, except maybe the pirate that discards at random
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>>55222106
that's what they want you to think
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>>55223538
It's still more historical precedent than we got for the last few sets of people in put of place roles.

Besides, we're also getting a Blackbeard analogue in the form of that Red Pirate walker who might be a Minotaur
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>>55222959
>>55223346

Agreed. This was an opportunity to have a bright bolt split the horizon of a storm, casting a silhouette of a ship with a decimated crow's nest
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>>55223216
>race

SHould be ez you dont have legs lmao
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>>55222430
E: Neither ability has an 'any time you can play a sorcery' restriction.
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>>55223633
>except maybe the pirate that discards at random
except? everyone hates random discard. only casuals are capable of liking that card at first glance.
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>>55222701
>An actual post complaining red is too strong

Nice, I think that completes the cycle for me.
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>>55223651
>It's a "LMBO LOOK AT THE GOBLIN BEING GOOFY XD" episode
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>>55223665
Delete this
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>>55223268
Do it. It's even budget.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-09-17-wurms/
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>>55223681
Yup, now I just need a post that says mono green is too strong so I can fill out my stamp sheet.
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>>55223691
The goblin doesn't even look goofy though. He's just standing still while some feeble sparks tickle him.
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>>55223633
I'm talking about the pack of Aether Revolt I just opened.
It couldn't be an Invention, nope, it had to be a foil mythic worth less than €1.
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>>55222192
Well, Hualti extra confirmed to never be a staple now
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>>55223677
>only casuals
or hs players
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>>55223633
Its a slot with Chandra and Hazoret but I think rowdies will be played. Bad red card draw is still card draw.
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>>55222489
>>55222521
>unironically believing bolt is the 10th power card
>Not soul ring
Bolt is strong, sure, but not that strong.
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>>55223783
>dino rider waifu will never ever be relevant
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>>55222875

this isnt modern here, in standard, control and ramp decks have no problem tapping out for a turn
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>>55223783
you do know I have priority to +2 Haulti before you can ever bolt her, right?
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>>55223703
Remove Rancor.
Add Roar.
Nontrampling wurms can deal with being big and fat
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>>55223954
I was kinda thinking that, Rancor just isn't needed. How about Panharmonicon to double Aura Shards, Trostani, and a few other ETB tirggers?
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>>55223783
Jace "Dies to a Bolt" Beleren
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>>55222451
A Golgari-themed card that searched for Zombies in a Ravnica set would make sense as well.
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>>55222610
It being a pirate likely precluded it from being easily reprinted in the first place, to be fair.
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>>55221208
I'm kinda disappointed they didn't take the opportunity to put in more art depicting women of color.
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>>55223425
Extinction Doll. Extinction Bees. Extinction Swans.
Extinction Bees
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>>55224064
Extinction Reckoner.
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>>55224030
fuck off, dinosaurs are strong and independent
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>>55223156
Leovold stuffs brainstorm.
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>>55223835
Would you really play a 4 mana 3/3 trample that draws a card?
Even if we're generous and average it at 4/4 trample that draws a card, that makes it good but not enough to warrant its inclusion over better options.
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>>55224226
I'm just remembering the Abbot, Hangarback was missed but we knew Abbot was good.
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>>55222222

Ah shit, think this might work well in my turns deck? Also, sweet 2's.
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>>55224030
Did you just assume the gender of that dinosaur, anon? Shame, you disgusting cis-gendered vampire.
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>>55221208

FUCKING STORM CROW!
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>>55224316
1/1 flying pirate for 1 will be good for the old woman.
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>>55223526
I love that card, my second/third favorite card from the set, it actually won me a game against a liliana ultimate
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>>55224316
thats a lot of creature type
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>>55224363
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>>55224316
>pirates are female
>sirens are male
welp
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>>55224251
2/1 prowess for 2 is barely decent
3/3 trample for 4 is garbage
That's mostly why I doubt Rowdy Crew will see any play

>>55224316
This could almost be a rare. That's a recurring theme for a lot of uncommons from this set

>>55224363
Eternalize it with Scarab God if you want to go deeper
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so black is unplayable now?
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>>55224384

>we need something completely new
>"What if we just skip the classic fantasy types?"

>Maro and Co hard at work
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>>55221232
i dont see what this do that pyromancer google dont do already

and it doesnt do much
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>>55224388
Scarab Eternals lose their other types and are just zombies.
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>>55223677
Casuals don't like random discard either. It feels bad.
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>>55223962
MORE. WURMS.
BURY EVERYTHING IN WUUUURMS.
Also, I'm not sure it's worth including Panharmonicon for five cards plus your general.
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>>55224424
its because it is
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>>55224442
>tfw all the other wurms are trash other than the black ones that I can't run
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>>55224316
>he
lmao
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>>55224397
we need to wait fore more spoiler, what makes black playable is usually the utility cards in the common and uncommon slots
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>>55224316
I hope there's a decent mono blue aggro deck this standard. Those are always neat to play
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Do we know what this tentacle haired bitch is yet? I hope she's a legendary creature.
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>>55223425
gotta love them simic commanders. Shes gonna go right into the 99 of my momir vig "everything is both colors" deck
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>>55224384
Well duh.

Would you rather have all of the butch, sagging, ageing female pirates be lesbians lured to their demise by female sirens?

It's less degenerate this way. Even Ixalan's female pirates are driven solely by a desire for dick, just like women in reality.
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>>55221249
>Nigras stealing from Stonewaifu
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>>55224499
it's vraska you nigger
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>>55224472
Roar of the Wurm is TWO WURMS in ONE CARD.
That's what I meant.
Also Greater Sandwurm ignores token hordes and, more importantly, is 2: draw a card early game.
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>>55224384
did you just assume its gender?
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>>55224499
>do we know who Vraska is?

Holy shit, dude. You been under a rock for the last 4 years?
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>>55224316
>male siren

IS WIZARD PROMOTING RAPE?
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>>55224525
>>55224550
don't bully the newfags
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>>55224504
I would be hype too if she wasn't an ugly ass overweight grandma
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>>55223425
Timmy is pleased.
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>>55224561
it's an old wise shaman and she's zoomed out in her card so whatever
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>>55224531
I'm getting Roar, no idea how I forgot it the first time. Greater Sandwurm though? No trample or other cool effects kinda smells.
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>>55224064
Extinction Reckoner
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>>55224561
but anon...
thats my fetish
It just makes her better!
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>>55222393
MaRo has confirmed multiple times that it will be.
It's their get out of jail card for when they fuck up and print another Stoneforge or Dark Confidant.
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>>55224602
MaRo says a lot of things
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>>55224535
That meme only works when the thing itself doesn't literally disclose it's gender you faggot loser.
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>>55224584
It's a damn sandwurm. That's cool enough, and ups the wurm count, while also not getting killed by the fucker with 10 saprolings when it attacks. And, you know, lolcycling when you need it.
Soul Swallower might work, as an earlier drop and possible eventually getting HUEG.
Voracious Wurm works with your general and is otherwise a wurm, a bear, and an early drop. I may be wrong here, but you should at the very least, if Trostani's out, be able to stack the triggers so you get 2 life then get counters from the life. But could be wrong.
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>>55224596
>>55224083
Fucking hell, I know I put that in there.
It was supposed to be the first bees.
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>>55224681
shit mate it wasnt my intention to trigger you
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>>55224685
Oh yeah, I have Voracious. Don't know why it isn't on the list. Best part is Trostani looks at his toughness after he gets his counters, so Pelakka >>> Voracious = 30 life.
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>>55224525
>>55224550
He probably just didn't see her.
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>>55224719
wow, ableist much?
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>be yuro
>booster boxes prices are the yuro equivalent of the dollar
>prices of single cards are lower

Fucking bullshit.
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>>55224735
>prices of single cards are lower
buy single cards then goy
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>>55224525
>>55224550
>Vraska
Who?
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>>55224749
a gorgon from ravnica who wants to fucking kill jace
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>>55224388
"People are complaining that they need a whole lot of mythics and rares to play and it's making everything too expensive! What do we do?"
"Make a bunch of good uncommons, make the mythics silly casual stuff."
Then, on /tg/...
>Why are all the mythics shit?
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>>55224561
Nigga, at this point if the card wasn't drawn by Terese Nielsen and directed by Cynthia Shepard, we won't be seeing beautiful women ever again.
The other art directos are a Yes Man that does everything PR implies, and a SJW Feminazi woobie that isn't even an artist. And "insensitive shitlord" artists like Carla Ortiz and Steve Argyle who didn't want to bow down to the bullshit, aren't being comissioned anymore.
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>>55224719
>>55224730
>/leftypol/
>/reddit/
>/tumblr/
>/neogaf/
>/anywhere but here/
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>>55224499

>Where are all the dinosaurs?
>I heard there'd be dinosaurs

>Cap't there's some thi-

>Shut up, I'm trying to spot a dinosaur
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>>55224763
Are people complaining or just bewildered/baffled/confused? It's a pretty stark shift to go from making mythics the pushed playable cards to making mythics silly jank stuff
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>>55224763
The problem is not all mythics are shit. One mythic is super fucking busted and needed to play Standard's tier one deck, everyone else is shit.
And thet do that not to help the poor players, but because you only need to open aprox 9 boosters to get any mythic, but you need to open aprox 110 to get a specific mythic.
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>>55224499
This really looks like they drew each object separately and then click dragged them onto some backdrop and did no further editing. [Spoiler]Also Vraska is so painfully ugly, just why?[/spoiler]
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>>55224726
WURMS.
That there are no legendary wurms is criminal.
We needed that 20/20.
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>>55224749
>>Vraska
>Who?
I hope you're playing since less than 6 months
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>>55224843
Im retard
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>>55224804
Most of the time I've seen the comment (other than in regards to Rowdy Crew specifically) it involves the value of the set, so it's complaining.
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Hey, remember when we told people obsessed with identity politics to fuck off back to wherever they came from whenever they ranted about the topic of minority representation in nerdy hobbies?

Those were the days.
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>>55224870
we don't still do that?
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>>55224771
Magali Villenueve exists, anon
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>all the dinosaurs are CMC 3+ With most being at least 5+

Shit man I just want some little 1-2 drop compys or raptors or something.
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>>55224885
no, today some shill comes and tells you to go back to /pol
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>>55224928
I feel ya man. I was really hoping for some tiny dino strats. Maybe there will be some cheap warriors in those colors that make the 3/3 tokens we've already seen, but them being sole huge and expensive and nothing else feels bad.

I mean really, they couldn't have at least given us a Watchwolf?
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>>55224844
What could have been...
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>>55221214
>>55221232
This and the Treasure Cove flip would be expensive in foil. The backside looks cool.
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>>55224928
This is in the RW planeswalker deck
To me, it means we will get low cmc dinosaurs
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>>55225003
May His passing cleanse the world.
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>>55224952
Yeah, those fucking shills obsessed with the presence of minorities in nerd products, they should fuck off back to Tumblr.

Now, can someone explain why there's so many fucking women in my Magic the Gathering? This is fucking disgusting, people, I don't play this game to stare at fucking niggers and old hags all day. Why the fuck is every other card a black or a bitch? It really fucking upsets me.
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>>55223562
Strike type cards are limited warping at common.

Its why Harnessed and Abrade are unc
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>>55225053
Fuck off back to Tumblr with your minority politics
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>>55225081
What the fuck are you talking about? I don't even have a fucking account on Tumblr. I'm just saying how fucking disgusting it is that we have all these niggers and ancient sluts in this card game and how we should get them the fuck out. That's got nothing to do with minority politics, shut your fucking mouth.
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>>55225053
>>55225105
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>>55225016
Eh, there's no real garuntee that the planeswalker deck cards will reflect on the set. After all, there are also all those cards that key off of the respective planeswalkers
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>>55225105
Plz
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>>55225105
1/10 learn to apply yourself.
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>>55224952
oh. when you said "people obsessed with identity politics" i assumed you meant the /pol/tards who shit themselves every time a card features a non-white person.

nobody else makes any sort of big deal out of it...
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>>55225166
>>55225128
I'm just saying, all of the legendaries so far are decrepit fucking roasties. See what these identity politicking fucks have down to our card game? We need to fucking take it back from all the niggers and bitches obsessed with their minority politics.
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>>55224771
Then we'll have to make do with cuties such as pic related
I wonder how WotC plans to make a successful movies if they actively avoid depictions of attractive women. That sure as hell didn't help Ghostbusters
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>>55225224
>We
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>>55225224
>roasties
Look at him. Look at him and laugh.
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>>55223703
Wurmcalling and Wurmweaver Coil
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>>55224843
I think she got her face fucked up by Gideon in some Uncharted Realms story before playeswalking "somewhere she couldn't be found".
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>>55224561
>not painting "her" in full green plate armour and giving "her" a spear
>not painting beards on the pirate legends

amateurs
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>>55225224
>all the legendaries
>forgetting based vampire priest
how many levels of inbred retard are you on right now?
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>>55224952
Sad how you got proven right.
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>>55225357
Isn't telling someone to go back to /pol/ telling them to fuck off back to wherever they came from when they bring up the topic of minority representation in nerdy hobbies?
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>>55225351
He's clearly a limp-wristed child-fucking faggot. Mark Nosewater wouldn't put him in the game if he wasn't.

Take back our game from the alt-left that's obsessed with its minority politics. Make it a game about whites, men and sluts who actually know their place again. Until that point, I won't buy another fucking booster.
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Now THIS is the kind of support dinosaurs want.
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>>55225406
Dude you are trying too hard
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>>55225406
>nigga destroys his navigation tools to steer his ship safely to shore while he's losing his shit
clearly not as much of a limp wristed faggot as you, baitanon
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>>55225406
Do you need a hug, anon? Maybe some sunshine? I'm worried about you.
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>>55225406
baito
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>>55225481
>>55225460
>>55225450
Fuck off back to Tumblr, all of you. I'm only talking to the people that want to rid our game of nigger-obsessed, roastie-loving scum like you.
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>>55225515
give it up, bait-anon, you've failed miserably.
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>>55224747
Literally wouldn't be into Magic if packs and boosters weren't a thing.
I want to open things myself, I don't want someone else's cards, unless I am a "competitive" autist who needs multiple copies of specific cards.
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>>55225434
That's pretty sweet. Easy 3/3 that helps enable itself by ramping for dinos
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>>55225515
Dude if you're going to bait post try not just calling everyone niggers and roasties. It's not good shitposting.
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>>55222222
Solitaire intensifies
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>>55225406
Right I remember all those female characters that really knew their place like Sisay, Serra, Ashnod, Elspeth, and Freyalise.
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>>55225515
>lalalala I just want to talk about race and gender politics on this traditional games board
Anon, there are other boards and websites for this:
>/pol/
>/mlp/
>Tumblr
>Reddit
And I'm sure there are others.
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>>55225622
Why should I avoid saying the truth, shill?
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>>55222192
>Uncommon
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>>55225595
This turn 2, turn 3 a solid 4 drop dino and suddenly you're ahead on board
Kudos for printing it at uncommon. This could have easily been a rare especially after they've printed garbage mana dorks at rare in both BFZ and SOI
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>>55225538
leftards pretending to be /pol/ are the cancer that's killing this board.
/co/ tried to warn us, but we didn't listen.
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>>55225639
Fuck off, 4chan has always been whites first and men first, I won't let you take it away from me.

Besides, /pol/ doesn't talk about race and gender politics, it unveils the truth about niggers and sluts. Go and redpill yourself before it's too late, cuck.
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>>55225673
Yeah, uncommon helps a lot. I bet they figured they needed it in order to make huge dinos work.

It should do great for curving out though.
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>>55225715
>it unveils the truth about niggers and sluts.
>Go and redpill yourself before it's too late, cuck.
Do you want to know how I know this is bait?
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>>55225715
Anon, look here >>55225697
That is how you bait. Right now you are like a child who is not getting his sugar cereal, screaming and breaking things in the grocery store.
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>>55224316
>not Merfolk
shame
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>>55225637
I'd argue from a different perspective that both of you are right in a way.
Sisay, Freyalise, Elspeth, etc. did know their place, their place was WINNING not WHINING.
What's shitty about current female representation in magic is that they're not heroes like Elspeth, they're fucking terrorists like Samut and Kaya.
At least Huatli seems to have a heart and some brains under the feathers.
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>>55225753
Eh, the /co/ tried to warn us bait isn't that great either. Obviously miles ahead of the retard, but I could literally mash my face on the keyboard and troll better than him.
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Can we just discuss children's card games, please?
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>>55225753
I don't know. Obvious bait isn't proper baiting. If people are calling you out for your bait instead of arguing your bait point it's a failed bait
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>>55225803
But accusations of bait did take up another twenty or thirty posts of the thread, didn't they?
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>>55225793
No, too busy feeding the troll by telling him how extremely non-baited we are
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>>55225562
That's probably because more people are like you instead of the market being invested with greedy jews '''''''investing''''''' in a children's card game to bring up the prices as much as possible
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>>55222320
Can't have that anymore it's not allowed. sjw's would riot if they saw a pretty woman, god forbid even one with a bigger cup size.
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>>55225793
Yes. Do you unironically believe dinosaurs and pirates are a cool concept that isn't a bit: "lolrandumbawesomesauce"? What I mean is, it seems to be appealing to people that like adventure time/dr.who/anime conventions/etc.
People that spazz out whenever they see a thing they like.
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>>55225854
It's still low effort if the only responses you get are "fuck off retard"
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>>55225871
Go back to whatever website and/or board you came from.
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>>55225910
Still made enough people go "fuck off retard" that they forgot what they were talking about and the thread's now autosage.
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>>55225876
The former of the two, yes and have for a good...27 years now? At least?
The latter eh.
I don't even care that they're calling nondinosaurs dinosaurs or feathering things without feathers. It just...works with the mesoamerican stuff. It's just a shame that more people will know the creative team's tax writeoff going BECAUSE SCIENCE than the actual group explaining why they went with it (because sun themes/aztec themes/etc and it's pretty)
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>>55225434
I called the dino ramp.
G/R dino ramp with a small bit of white splashed in for the big boy is how it's gonna run.
Maybe some card that gives a dino hexproof this turn.
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>>55222457
When you have to desigb entire Formats around a one mana spell, you have made a mistake.

The Boon cycle's "1:3" gimmick means their power levels are all insane or stupid.(Growth is the closest to fair and even then its about a half point too strong.)
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>>55225917
>truth is not allowed in /tg/
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>>55226011
Nice scientific study you've got there to back up your 'truth.'
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>>55224843
isn't being ugly part of what gorgons do?
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>>55222493
Historical porates were full of women and non whites.

The greatest pirate in history was a Chinese woman.
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>>55222693
Hasnt red been a power player in standard all year?
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>>55226036
if non-whites and women were so common amongst pirates then why have white men only ever told me about pirates who were white men?
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>>55225639
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/shuffling-dos-donts-2006-07-07
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>>55226034
I never thought about it that way.
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>>55224843
>This really looks like they drew each object separately and then click dragged them onto some backdrop and did no further editing.
>click dragged them onto some backdrop and did no further editing.
>click dragged

look out guys we have a graphics expert over here
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>>55225434
I love cards like this.
One thing early game then something else when the first abikity isnt as useful.

A dork that turns to a beater. Sweet
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>>55222320
>>55222845
>>55225871
This is the real issue, I am not saying every single card has to be erotic/10, but once in blue moon is fine. Look at this art from the Original Innistrad back in 2011. I am not saying every card has to be tit wank materiel, but God Damn it, sexy female card art is a reason people go into this game. You want to "equal" then have a little bit of each thing. Hell even the Natives are covered head to toe.
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>>55222342
Does no one remember that there was a white equipment tutor in shadows?
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>>55222342
>>55226224
>>55222247
>>55222127
>>55222017
White does not exist in the pirate colors that will inevitably care about equipment and vehicles, so the color pie is being bent slightly.
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>>55225854
yes, but bait-anon needed multiple posts to achieve that. good bait needs only to get the ball rolling, then sit back and watch the chaos.
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>>55222320
>>55222845
if you want something to jerk off to you have loads of porn just a few clicks away. Trading card games don't need to be wank material
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>>55225224
A lot of Damaged has been done, the only way we are getting our game back are:
>Maro and whole team is replaced
>The SJW's move on to something new
>Sales tank so bad that Maro and team get replaced

Their Sub -reddit has been turned into a echo chamber and only job list trannies and feminist have the time to send thousands of emails to WotC.

Also the player base is made of 3 groups:
>Spikes who don't give a fuck about the art or lore and just care about the game play
>People like us, that enjoyed the old game that liked sexy art and fantasy worlds to take a break from the real world issues.
>The limp wrist-ed Bernie voting nerds that are too pathetic to stand up against the few SJW's in the game since it might trigger their "anxiety" or jeopardize their chances to get with one of those said female SJW's
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>>55225105
fuck fucking fucking fuck fucking
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>>55226340
what the fuck do you people mean by "limp-wristed"? I hear this everywhere and have no fucking clue what it means
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>>55224771
>"insensitive shitlord" artists like Carla Ortiz
Explain further
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>>55226392
It takes 5 seconds to google, it means effeminte of gay. The idea was that a man that could not dig a ditch, fix a car, or shoot a gun, might as well been a women. Today it means the same thing and also applies to men that lack convocation. 2/10 bait for getting me to respond
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>>55226397
I have no idea, but she last had a new cardart in Eldritch Moon. Not exactly that long ago.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?output=spoiler&method=visual&action=advanced&artist=+%5bortiz%5d
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>>55226242
It's also a 2/2 for 4. You're paying out the nose in tempo to go tutor to hand.
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>>55226397
>Carla Ortiz
He means Karla Ortiz a mtg artist who loves to draw sexy women and cleavage. He's calling her a shitlord ironically since that's how the SJW's at WotC view artist that draw sexy people.
>Pic related is her work
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>>55225876
>it seems to be appealing to people that like adventure time/dr.who/anime conventions/etc.
I'm not interested in any of the above (except maybe Dr. Who, the couple episodes I saw where alright), but so far I'm liking this block.
I'm a big Smash Up fan though, so Dinos vs Pirates vs Vampires vs Fishmen isn't something I'm going to complain about, and after 4 blocks of Avengers I'd take anything.
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>>55226539
>after 4 blocks of Avengers I'd take anything
maybe thats WotC's long term plan. make a bunch of shitty sets, then the mediocre ones will seem amazing
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>>55226528
Carla Ortiz did Ashiok, so she's good bye me.
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>>55226202
no kidding, I miss the time artists were allowed to draw females like they actually really belong in a fantasy TCG, instead of plastering them with chain and platemail because it was unbelievable and ridiculous.

1% of all players complain about sexist illustration in magic, wizards fixes it. 1% of all players complain about lack of culture and variety in magic, wizards fixes it. Wizards wants to change standard, 15% of all players complain, wizards reverts it. How the fuck is the reserved list still in place when 99% of all players complain about it to this very day?
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>>55226714
the solution is no more humans in mtg
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>>55222936
This, when I first saw the admiral I thought she was a fat guy in a powdered wig... how can u guys be so sure about the pirates genders?
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>>55226714
Because, as much as the people working on the cards WANT to repeal the Reserved List (and they do, they've said so repeatedly), there is a higher power at work.
The Legal Team says no, and so they can't, and can't say why they can't.
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>>55224561

>araara.jpg
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>>55226742
That's what I thought too. I would have liked it better that way to be honest, but pirate grandma is okay too. I'm just kinda disappointed they didn't make her look more like Nanny Ogg.
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>>55226528
>Teysa
I wanna help her move from place to place whenever she loses her cane, because she has a bad leg
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>>55225003
What is this, a fake?
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>>55226735
Non-humans are affected as well, maybe even moreso than actual humans. I couldn't believe my eyes when the article referred to Balan as a she. I guess the echoes of Kemba will haunt nu-wizards until the end of time
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>>55225876
Yeah pirates and dinosaurs aren't that exciting to me. I don't immediately shout "DINOSAURS FUCK YEAH" whenever it's brought up or join in the enthusiasm for pirates.
But I do like big RG fatties so I'm excited to see more of the dinosaurs anyways.
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>>55227004
the right artwork looks better in every respect except sexiness.
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>>55225865
What?
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>>55227004
I'd go furry for that boobcat
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>>55227004
Kembra's outfit looks ceremonial while Balan's looks like something you'd wear in battle
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>>55227040
It also looks way more generic. Where's that bitchass helmet, for starters?
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>>55227004
>That fishnet top on Balan.
Balan a lewd, LEWD!
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>>55227004
The armour should've had a boob window and maybe show the abs a bit.
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>>55227040
While furtits aren't my thing, the right's pose isn't nearly as dynamic and looks flatter overall. I'm inclined to disagree.
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>>55227004
how about we have everyone, regardless of gender, go around wearing only pants
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>>55227312
It's not even that. They should have just not traced a photo of a car looking sideways and put it on top of a generic pose.

Sexy or not, the one on the left is far more expressive and interesting.
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>>55227389
Yeah I get your complaint just for me it's a non issue honestly.
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>>55226807
Do you think Granny pirate tells stories and bakes cookies for her crew?

>>55227004
>her
Now that you say that, I do see some curves on balan.
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>>55227004
>tfw you're the only female mtg character nobody thinks is undersexualized or oversexualized
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>>55226397
She complained at an art conference about one of the art directors making her change the art for Liliana Defiant Necromancer, not to correct imperfections but to make her wider and her legs shorter which ruined her composition.
She hasn't drawn an illustration since.
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>>55227593
She did Gisa and Geralf and Deathcap Cultivator
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>>55227573
What about Emrakul?
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>>55227694
Uh? In the same set.
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>>55227733
from what I understand, the eldrazi are beyond such conventional concepts as 'gender' and Emrakul is only referred to as female because its mythological counterpart, emeria, was female
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>>55227733
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>>55227856
Took me a second to realize what I was looking at. This isn't what I meant when I said I wanted more MTG smut.
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>>55227004
They let Phyrexia kill Mirrodin to kill the last lewd plane in the multiverse.
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>>55227896
beggars can't be choosers
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>>55227694
Art is done a year in advance. By the time she could have complained about Dawn's bullshit, her SOI block art was already being printed.
They did the same shit to Steve Argyle. He hasn't been allowed to drawn a female character since Monastery Swiftspear which would have been done by the time they C&D'd him about his LilianaxChandra fanart.
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>>55227921
That's... that's not really that far fetched if you think about it. Paradise mantle, auriok champion, the leonin and many more rather interesting art is from this block, including current and probably all-time record holder Moriok Scavenger (pic related)

I feel sorry for derailing the thread by now though. Still happy to see that I'm not the only one who finds Kembas art more interesting than Balans.
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>>55228185
The sense I've gotten from this thread is that they've pissed off some of their artists by being a lot more demanding and restrictive, which is probably why a lot of the new art feels rushed, lifeless, or fake.
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>>55228035
Are you telling me the person on forsake the worldly us a dude...
Damn, I'm worst at telling genders on characters in MTG apart then I thought.
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>>55228035
Not only is Steve Argyle a huge cuck but most importantly his art is also liquid shit, it looks like murrican comic books for manchildren.
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>>55227300
Nothing in either of those images is fishnet. Balan is wearing scale armor.
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>>55228341
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>>55228035
>Steven Loses his job over making a hot lesbian material for men to jerk it to.
>WotC Push to have a boring and forced lesbian relationship between Nissa and Chandra so fat or gender fluid female teens can flick their bean to it.

This is magic now
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>>55227795
The denizens of Innistrad being transmuted and becoming one with Emrakul also called Emrakul female and referred to her with feminine pronouns exclusively (and by the name 'Emrakul')
Either Emrakul is female, or there's two types of Eldrazi that roughly correlate to 'masculine' and feminine' (or perhaps more but Emrakul still correlates to 'feminine') and that's just what the native's vocabulary could express it as.
Occam's Razor says 'Emrakul's a girl'
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ah.. I sort of skim through the magic lore and miss details like this
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>>55228854
whoops meant to link to this
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>>55228514
I still think Chandra should get Lili in on the action
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