Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

first to deny first fors

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r8

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>++WE HAVE COME FOR YOU!!!++

Fucking idiots, stop splitting the crowd and let the other thread get a little closer to death before you make a new one

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let's all agree we've fed Carnac enough and try and start this thread fresh, post some /comfy/ pictures of your faction to start this off right

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Question: the Space Marine Codes says (pg. 200)
>If your army is led by a Space Marines Warlord, you may give one of the following Chapter Relics to a Space Marine CHARACTER in your army. Named characters such as Marneus Calgar already have one or more artefacts, and cannot be given any of the following relics.

Does this imply that every named character has a relic and thus cannot take one? If not, how to do I tell whether the equipment a character has counts as a relic? I'm trying to figure out whether it's legal to give Helbrecht the Crusader's Helm.

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>>55211961
comfY picture 4 U

>>55211959
Nah that threads already dead, let Carnac have it
Stay new

>>55211978
The former. No Relics for named characters period. This includes dudes like The Emperor's Champion.

>>55211959
Kill yourself, let the shitposters fucking fester in the old shit

>>55211919
>>55211930
>>55211949
I'll give it a 4

>>55212018
Thanks. It's a shame, but I guess it feels more fair.

>>55211978
>Does this imply that every named character has a relic and thus cannot take one?

Yes, if the unit in question is in the "named characters" bracket at the end of the codex then it cant take any relics. If you're taking Helbrecht then its better to give it to a Castellan.

>>55211978

Named Characters usually have their own equipment, which usually also has its own points cost and profile listed. Telion has his special bolter, Shrike has is lightning claw, etc...

But the rules boil down to "Named Characters cannot have Relics" with no exceptions. Generic characters can have them just fine, though.

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>>55211961
Cute sisters>cutedar

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Post models you autists

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You want comfy? I've got your comfy right here.

Weeeee~

>>55212039
FOR FUCKS SAKE!

>>55212039
>According to ADB

This bit of fluff has never been from ADB, its been part of Abaddon's character since he was a thing.

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>>55212021
shitposters go where the people go, you dumb fuck

>>55212039
Fucking kill yourself, take a knife and fucking jam it into your arterial vein

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Do you guys think the emperor ever got laid before getting crippled?

What's stopping anyone from 3D printing all the overpriced figures?

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>>55212050

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>>55212049

Cute AdMech > all

>>55212079
Let me guess, this was linked in the last thread

>>55212104

Because 3D printing is even more expensive.

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These guys are my favorite chapter, but I've never actually played them, do I'm going paint some up and rectify that, maybe even alongside a radical inquisitor or something.

With that in mind, what are some good space marine scale daemon weapons? Mechanically I'm going to take the burning blade and/or teeth of terra every battle to represent daemon weapons, but I'm not sure which ones might be a good base for conversion.

So, I'm gonna sperg out a bit. Bear with me, NPC screeching ahead.

I was comparing the superduperawesome units of several armies and man, the focus on Marines hit me in the face. Primarchs specifically outclass every other character else in the galaxy (discounting LOW daemons) so hard it's not even funny. It really isn't. Incarnated avatars of literal Eldar gods? Whatever. Strongest Ork alive? Chump change. The most cunning and skilled creature the Hive Mind can produce? You mean that dude who got owned by a literally who chaplain?

It honestly gets a little tiring. Pauldrons sell, and GW knows it, hell, they're largely responsible for it. And maybe it's just me -- I came over from WFB, where the Empire was just one of many factions with tons of different flavor and approaches -- first among equals at most. I expected the same from 40k, more or less, but the superiority of Marines is hammered in over and over and over in the fluff. Primarch action figures cannot even be approached in their awesomeness, Ultramarines have more named characters than other factions have units, and everything any other faction's characters can do, a Marine somewhere can do better.

I dunno. There's not much to be done about it, especially since GW have said that 8th will double down on Imperium vs Chaos Marines with everything else in the corner. I don't really begrudge SM and CSM players either, it's not like they write the fluff and crunch. But it really feels like GW are wasting the potential of 40k and devaluing the setting by having humans be first, second and third.

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>>55212114
yes, it was

>>55211949
>>55211930
>>55211919
nice/10. I did pretty much the same swaps.

Make sure to grab a Mk4 hat for Cassius, too.

>>55212039
All Abaddon related discussion is moot since it is built on a basis of 1 < 2. We all know there is no way Abaddon could be stronger than Horus, so this discussion is pointless, as Horus has already been beaten by the Emperor with the full attention and backing of all Chaos gods.

>>55212104
The quality of 3d printers isn't high enough

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>>55212039
As we know already, the Emperor failed mankind. His pathway to salvation is no more. There has to be another. That's what Abaddon is doing. Chaos cannot be defeated from the outside, countless races tried and failed. Chaos can only be defeated from within. This was never tried before.

Enter the Horusians the so called villains of the Resurrection series. The Horusians believe that the only way Chaos can be defeated is by finding a dark figure such like Horus who can enslave and command the Chaos Gods. Abaddon is the closet thing to this figure. A guy who deals with the Chaos Gods and yet retains his own will.

This makes the most sense. Its a go!

>>55212103
He canonically did, on multiple opportunities.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sensei

The real question is if he got laid after.

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>>55211961

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>>55212039
IMPERIAL CITIZENS: THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM YOUR SUPERIORS.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A WITNESS TO THE SO-CALLED "CARNAC-SHITPOSTING-PHENOMENON" YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SPAM THE FUCK OUT OF HIM WITH YOUR FAVOURITE PICTURES OF IMPERIAL WARRIORS; FROM THE LOWLY GUARDSMAN TO THE MIGHTY SPACE MARINE
FAILURE TO DO SO WILL RESULT IN EXECUTION; YOU KNOW YOUR DUTY, CITIZENS.

>ALSO; NO XENOS OR CHAOS ALLOWED

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>>55212127
Looks like we found the fucking problem then didn't we

How are taurox primes?
I know they are spammed in tourneys but the meta there is very different from casual play, I just got two for a super cheap price and was wondering how the preformed and what support they appreciate

>>55212121

WHFB has some flaming sword bits of the appropriate scale. As for Daemon weapons, WHFB and AoS minis also have a good deal, especially AoS's new Khorne line. Although a Bloodletter's sword is probably a pretty good generic one.

>>55212104
>Fucking GW trying to charge me $35 for a single goddamn Primaris HQ
>instead of just kitbashing my own out of cut up $1 Primaris starter models I can get on eBay or forking over $28 at a 20% off store or $5 to a recaster, I'll show GW by paying $300 and somehow finding the 3D files to print my own exact replica!

>>55212132
I'm curious how the company will adapt once that is no longer the case.

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>>55212134
LOL Bobby will destroy chaos, soon he will rekt Mortarion, and then rest of chaos.

>>55212154
>linking to the old thread
>putting a subject line
Do people not know how to make a post shitposting thread?

>>55212155
They hit on 3+ and are real fuckin' fast. They also mount three amazing guns. And with how cheap they are you can just run them around without thinking too hard about anything.

As far as light vehicles go they are arguably the best in the game.

>>55212171
Aggressive destruction of 3d files online

>>55212175
I made a thread without linking, this one just got here first

>>55212130
A) Abaddon was the Emperor Kryptonite

B) Horus fell to Chaos. Abaddon never fell. Abaddon will is his own. Refer to the ADB post here >>55212039

The Chaos Gods are enraged at Abaddon because they cannot break him as they did with Horus. Remember that Primarchs are mentally human. Flawed and broken things. The Space Marines are inhuman and less fallible than men.

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>>55212172

>>55212126
That's not a problem with Primarchs, although Guilliman really needs to cost 3 CP instead of giving 3CP, but a problem with everything you listed.

Avatars have been jobber Worfs for decades. That's a problem. Fix it by making them better.

Ghazghkull ISN'T supposed to be as impressive as a Primarch. It's like you don't even know anything about the Horus Heresy or the historical warlords and giant orks they used to face. Either give Orks a good big unit like Gorkanauts, or give them hulking monstrosities on par with Primarchs, but you won't solve this by making Ghazshit equal to a Primarch because he's NOT. His marine equivalent would be someone like Calgar, not Guilliman.

Same with Tyranids. Their titans need to be better, and Swarmlord isn't supposed to suck as much as he does. They already have units that can kill Primarchs as well.

Your post is just "FUCK PRIMARCHS" using other races as an excuse.

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>tfw you split fire your Farseer guided Fire Dragons and annihilate a Swarmlord and Tyrannofex in one shooting phase.

E F F I C I E N T

>>55212154
>when this image reminds you MM probably is off hiatus
Well I just realized I have better things to do than this thread

>>55212154
it wasn't you dumbfuck

>>55212136
Not canon. Known Perpetuals such as Alivia Sureka have been shown to be sterile.

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>>55212039
>I'M SO BIG AND TOUGH I'LL CONQUER THE GALAXY AND THE DARK GODS WILL NEVER SEE THIS COMING
>HELP BIG MEANIE SPACE ELVES
>THEY HAVE GUNS IT'S NOT FAIR

>>55212189
>Refer to ADB

:^)

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What are some of the Tyranid must haves for your army?

There are a lot of try hards at my store so I don't want to get shit on constantly.

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>>55212189
SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAPAMSPAMSPAMPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM

IGNORE THE CARNAC
POST PRETTY PICTURES

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>>55212134
>Implying the way isn't the Ultramarines
LMAO

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>>55212215
Stonecrusher Carnifex, because it's the coollest model in the game.

>>55212211
THREE ATTACK CRAFT VS THREE PRIMARCHS.

>HELP ME FULGRIM AHHHH!
>MORTY NOOOOO!

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>>55212194
>tfw you have 2 squadrons of basilisks and you can shoot one at a time at a unit until it dies then switch to another

>>55212156
AoS skipped my mind entirely, but they'd probably have perfect over the top daemon weapons, thank you!

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So when this shows up?

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>draw digital and traditional concept art for like 5 upcoming projects
>tfw too scared to show anyone because someone will rip it off and do it before I can

>>55212229
>Beyond Raukos was the smallest part of the Cicatrix Maledictum. The Great Rift was a broad band of energies stretched across space from one side of the galaxy to the other. It divided the Imperium neatly in two, shrouding the dense yolk of stars at the heart of the galaxy completely. The light was painful to observe. Though it appeared to be a natural stellar phenomenon, to look into it for any length of time showed a man things that he would rather not see.

>What Guilliman saw was a tragedy, the latest play in a war millions of years in the fighting. The last ten millennia, though an age in the lifetime of mankind, was a heartbeat of time, a single summer’s campaign. The magnitude of the war against Chaos, the empires lost and the peoples damned, awed the primarch. He had learned these things from the aeldari, though they were unwilling to tell him the complete story. But he knew far more than he had, of the War in Heaven, and of the conflicts between the ancient races.

>Against this all-devouring cosmic evil that had consumed species after species and brought man’s first stellar empire low, Guilliman’s father had set Himself. The scale of His self-appointed task was yet another thing the Emperor had not deigned to share with His sons.

>We constantly battle the sins of the fathers, thought Guilliman. That is no less true on an eternal scale than it is within the history of a single world. We suffer because of those that have gone before.

-Dark Imperium

Girlyman is daunted by the scale of the war against Chaos. He will fail like his father did.

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>>55212189
>Abaddon was the Emperor Kryptonite

>HOLY SHIT SPACE ELVES ATTACKED BETTER COWER IN MY ROOM
>Lord Abaddon they've just been standing out in the open for hours, we know where they are and have the Vengeful Spirit parked overhead. Shouldn't we-
>SHUT THE FUCK UP I'M TOO BUSY SUCKING MY THUMB

Well this sucks.
My remaining bugs plus the 500 I got adds up to 1500-ish, but I can't make another detachment.

Too many troops for another patrol, too few HQ for a battalion, and too little for anything else. And forget any fliers or LoW, that requires me to sell a kidney go to Forgeworld.

Anyone else having army building woes?

>>55212215

Genestealers are potentially the best troop choice in the game, the swarmlord getting a free warptime every turn is great, trygons giving stealers and devilgants deepstrike is great, hormagants are the best unit in the game at tying up things, exocrines are hella shooty.

Malanthropes are mandatory.

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>>55212129

I was thinking resin Night Lords skull MK4

>>55212271
THREE ATTACK CRAFT > Godlings.

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>>55212206
>it wasn't
Is it hard being so fucking stupid you forget to look before posting? Neck yourself

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>>55212215
Competetively? Genestealer Spam is the SHIT. Best HQ is the Broodlord or the Malanthrope (From forgeworld)
Exocrine is sick dakka.

Rule of Cool? Carnifexes are boss, I love me a big old swarm of termagaunts, and while his lore is ass I fucking love the Swarmlord model.

Honestly, Walkrants in general are the greatest fucking models ever, they just ooze of power and aesthetic.
Pic related is why I started with Tyranids. Didn't know nothing about the lore, fluff, who what the hell it was, but it just looked so fucking great.

>>55212279
No, I just kept buying Orks until I had everything I wanted, then I bought more

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Mods are asleep, and this thread is already fucked, so post reaction pictures with tenuous relation to 40k
Ill start
>when the guard player maneuvers his conscripts poorly and you're able to multicharge your unit into their commissar

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>>55212230
Unique conversions have always been, and will always be, the coolest models in the game.

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>>55212236
>HOLY SHIT A PRIMARCH
>I CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT SHIT BETTER GO GET 'EM NOW
>HELP SPACE ELVES :(
>YOU LOT, GO KILL GUILLIMAN BEFORE HE KICKS MY ASS
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY'RE ALL DEAD
>I WANT MY MOMMY

Chaos is gaining ground in Konor. You guys think they will win?

>>55212317
This. Why I'm finishing my brothers abandoned Nids after my Orks are all painted

>>55212095
I'm surprised that a mouth breather such as yourself has the capacity for such long words as "arterial".
I'm impressed.

What's the best way to represent alpha legion hunter squads in 40k?
Infiltrating chosen with plasma or something?
Unfortunately chaos doesn't really have many subtle precision strike units

>>55212353
THREE. ATTACK. CRAFT.

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>>55212262
>"We do not fear the coming of Chaos. It is the traitors that should fear US."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdnDO5aCM4

>>55212193
Partially, but those examples are symptoms more than causes. My problem is that Primarchs are apparently the ceiling in how powerful, important or competent a character can get in 40k, and everything else is strictly below them.

Yeah, Avatar of Khaine and the Yncarne could be stronger. Hell, the Yncarne is comparatively spankin' new, nothing was stopping them. But he is not (and no Eldar character will ever be) stronger than a Primarch.

Ghazghkull is beneath the Beast who matched Vulkan, true. But Orkz get bigger and stronger as they fight and gain a following. In the future, if Ghaz managed to unify enough Orkz to put together a great WAAAGH of a never-before-seen scale he could match or surpass the Beast, and become stronger than any Primarch. But he won't.

Tyranids are a weaker example, because their deal isn't snowflake characters, but mindless hordes. Regardless, the best they have gets routinely owned to puff up the shilled character of the week. That is unlikely to change.

Primarchs annoy me, but they're a symptom, not the root cause. The ceiling any other faction can aspire to is exactly below the floor set by them, and more broadly, their respective factions (SMs and CSMs). Hell, in crunch it is far from a hard rule, as bonkers as Guilliman and Magnus are (and Mortarion is likely to be), they can be killed by far cheaper amounts of mooks, or else outtmuscled by Titans and other LOWs. Hell, if you count the likes of Ang'grath and Ateuos'Rau'Keres, there's already characters that can beat them. But even then, you know that will never be reflected in the fluff. The wisest and oldest and most skilled Eldar will never win a decisive, status quo-impacting victory over any non-fodder Marine Chapter, certainly not one of the big ones. A Necron Dynasty will never destroy a Chaos Legion, and if they beat them expect a retcon. Tyranids' invasion of Baal got interrupted because Khornates couldn't bear not to be in the spotlight.

>>55212371
Hey, that's uncalled for.

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>>55212189

Abaddon will never reach Terra unless he masters the ways of the infil-traitor.

>>55212279
>Anyone else having army building woes
I've apparently decided to paint up three small space marine forces instead of one big one, I've got a 1000 point dread mob still to paint and a whole bunch of chaos stuff I haven't even assembled.

The only army I actually play is dark eldar.

>>55212382
That's just a speech to his troops. Dark Imperium shows he awed by the hugeness of the scale and history of this eternal war against Chaos.

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>>55212347
>tfw your opponent leaves a pocket in his deployement zone by mistake, leaving just enough room for you to deepstrike your Trygon and Genestealers
>mfw thanks to the Swarmlords double move on the Stealers, you bubble wrap the opponents land raider so the Berserker Squad inside cant get out
>mfw the landraider is destroyed during his turn, giving the stealers the charge against the dumbfounded berserkers within

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>>55212350
>pic unrelated

Just because you're right doesn't mean your taste isn't shit.

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>>55212262

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>>55212353
>Abaddon literally acting like his factions fanbase

POTTERY

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>>55212371
>ADB
>I'm the mouth breather
Is it hard being so scared and at the same time desperate for attention you have to seek it on an anonymous board

>>55212406
Anyone can reach Terra. Abaddon can do it if he wanted to but his plan revolves around the Crimson Path.

Terra is open for attack by any Chaos force. The Word Eaters are uniting for a combined assault on Terra. High chances that Terra won't recover from that attack since Girlyman is busy in Ultramar and other forces of the Imperium are similarly engaged.

>>55212389
>Avatars losing to random faggots before Primarchs even came back is a symptom of Primarchs being a problem

Sure it is pal.

>>55212126
Yeah, pretty much. GW is doing what is good for getting them money right now, but if they don't take care of the xeno players eventually as well, they hurt the game in the long run. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that Chaos, to a xeno player, is just a spikier human faction, and honestly fairly boring.

>>55212193
>Ghazghkull ISN'T supposed to be as impressive as a Primarch
Well, shouldn't he be bigger now? Shit, if Ghaz ain't the guy for the job, yeah, just give us a bigger fucking Ork. I'm from 2nd ed, I don't really mind this becoming Herohammer again, but I want big, absurd heroes for every army. I want a warboss as big as a Stompa.

>8th edition
>the expensive models are now the good ones!

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>>55212347
>tfw snek

>>55212451
That's not ADB. That's just an anon mad at you for supposedly feeding Carnac (You)s.

ADB doesn't post here anymore since he says the mood around here changed to the worse.

>>55212437

Actually if you completely surround a transport when you destroy it everything inside dies automatically.

>>55212440
>says taste is shit, proceeds to post ork conversions anyway.

I was not implying THOSE were the coolest in game, just examples.

>>55212389
>The ceiling any other faction can aspire to is exactly below the floor set by them
>laughing titan legions
>laughing any faction with good Apocalypse units

Most armies could rape Guilliman in 7E. Tau and Eldar especially.

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>>55212371

>>55212294
That would work. I went with a bog standard mk4, because I like my deathwatch with a little less ornamentation.

>>55212404
what the fuck is the eldar looking at?

>>55212486
I just realized that not once have I ever seen a dread converted to using tank treads for White Scar purposes. Seems like an obvious thing that people would do.

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>>55212193
>Ghazghkull

Dude is the successor of the Beast. See picture related.

The Beast made Vulkan his bitch.

>>55212492
Really? I thought that was last edition?
I thought that this edition, you "exit the transport/place the models where the transport died", roll your ones for casualties and done.

>>55212495
>says someone is wrong
>says the right answer
>posts an image
>THE IMAGE ISN'T RELATED THOUGH GUYS

>>55212505
>Formation Hammer
No shit.

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>order 15 berzerkers and 5 BL CSM off ebay for 47 burgers
>see 12 berzerkers in my FLGS for 28 burgers
I am an idiot

>>55212535
>Dude is the successor of the Beast

And yet is still only "the strongest Warboss SINCE the Beast", and is not as physically powerful or large as the Beast.

>See pic related

Which doesn't refute any of the previous factual statements.

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>>55212378
>"M-Maybe if I post examples of traitors getting BTFO it will make their superior loyalist brothers look bad."

>PRIMARCHS AIN'T SHIT AND THAT'S WHY I CRAPPED IN MY PANTS AT THE FIRST MENTION OF A GUILLIMAN'S NAME

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>>55212406
This edition is pretty cheeky.

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>implying Failbaddon will ever reach Terra
>implying that universe will ever end and someone wins

as long as GW can sell new models and get $$$ they will not destroy this universe
and Gathering Storm was 40k version of end times.

>>55212564
>And yet is still only "the strongest Warboss SINCE the Beast", and is not as physically powerful or large as the Beast.

Yet. He is growing in power and is due a new model.

>Which doesn't refute any of the previous factual statements.

It does because Ghaz is on his way to becoming the new Beast. A figure that towered over a Primarch and defeated him.

>>55212415
And Gathering Storm shows Abaddon pisses himself at the slightest prospect of facing ONE Primarch.

>>55212571
THREEATTACKCRAFT!

>>55212623
No, he was enraged at the prospect of his return since he means that 10K years of plans could go up in smoke.

>>55212481
Incorrect
My stompa is still a steaming pile of shit

>>55212477
Mm, seems I'm not expressing myself well. The Primarchs themselves aren't the main issue. In this particular case, it'd be that even the theoretically most powerful characters of the other factions (as you'd expect the avatar of an Eldar god to be) isn't allowed to actually reflect that, only worf to the factions that are allowed competence.

>>55212505

Pardon, but I don't think you read the entirety of the post. I don't mean in terms of absolute WAAC tabletop strength, I mean in terms of lore competence and supposed power. It helps, mind you, with Magnus and Guilliman being essentially auto-takes for their respective factions (and incidentally leaving their understudies in Calgar and Ahriman in the dust).

>>55212638

Yeah, Imperial Knights are too.

>>55212636
Didn't he got defeated by an old man, a wounded woman and random chick throwing low power mind bullets?

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>>55212477
>>55212642
An Avatar tied with Skarbrand.

Girlyman couldn't outfight Skarbrand.

Ergo, Girlyman < Avatar.

Avatar loves ghis daughterfu. Girlyman feels familiar with the Emperor in that he sees his men as tools, not sons. Ergo, the avatar is a better daddy.

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>>55212636
>I-I'M NOT A-AFRAID YOU GUYS
>WE BLACK LEGION ARE BRAVE AND S-STRONG

>>55212492

there is nowhere to exit, since you can't place models within 1" of an enemy model unless it's the fight phase. The embarked units are placed first, before the vehicle is removed, and all models that cannot be legally placed are slain.

I've done it with guard. Run, run, run! around a transport and envelop it, dudes can't leave, blow it up, dudes all auto-die.

>>55212578
>>55212448

Why do LSMfags cry that GW loves Chaos and they win too much but at the same time 'brag' about how Chaos are failures?

>>55212539

Nope, you have to place the models before removing the transport and if you can't they all die. It's one of the reasons no one takes transports anymore.

>>55212720
meant for
>>55212539

>>55212636
>10K years of plans could go up in smoke.
TFW one guy annihilates your pitiful dreams

Should have invested in more attack craft, Abby. Maybe your super-speshul sword should trying turning into on.

>>55212389
How can Necrons/Tau/Dar Eldar even compete?

>>55212728
They are hypocrites and spoiled children.

>>55212728
It's mostly just ADB really.

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>>55212728
>Implying I play Imperium or Chaos

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Anyone read pic related? How was it? Do I need to read the first book to make sense of it?

>>55211900
so how much will they nerf the gorkanaut in the codex

right now its actually good and we cant have that

>>55212738
>TFW one guy annihilates your pitiful dreams

Girlyman arrival was not foreseen anything in the Warp and his actions are creating new futures and outcomes. He is a wildcard that threatens to crumble the whole stack of cards.

>>55212728
Not one of them, but I believe part of it is the disconnect between talking up Chaos in some fluff and yet showing them accomplishing nothing in other. The apparent tug-of-war between authors at GW over whose plastic army men are best doesn't do wonders for a compelling unifying narrative, though that's arguably the point.

>>55212765
Hell yes. It picks up where the old one left off. My advice is pick up the audiobook. The audio version is pure gold.

>>55212692
Avatar lost to Calgar.

Guilliman > Calgar

Ergo Guilliman > Avatar

>>55212728
Bullying chaosfag is fun.
Every single event regardless of game GW has to step in and fix the result. So it doesn't look like the "forces of order" tear chaos a new asshole every time

>>55212765
I thought it was great, if you liked the first one then this is more of the same. Im glad someone finally gave Sigismund a fitting end. If you have not read the first one then go read it, you dont need to but you should really start a series of books at the beginning of it.

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>>55212765
Heres a summary of the first book for you.

>>55212787
AoS has a compelling and unified that doesn't overwank anyone.

>>55212749
We're not talking about CSMfags.

>>55212765
Have fun, bud. >>55174857

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>>55212740
>How can Dark Eldar even compete?
Sex appeal and blaster spam

>>55212210

My good anon, just because you are sterile, it does not mean you cannot get laid.

>>55212728
>>55212728

>LSM

Fuck off back to Eternal Crusade you pathetic lost cause loving nigger. Its SM and CSM, period, end of the fucking story.

>>55212791
You mean Calgar > Guilliman. Calgar feats are more impressive than Girlyman.

What's the word on using units from an Index that didn't make it over to the Codex?

>>55212642

Miniscule single shard of a full deity being weaker than literal full demi-gods is reasonable. Khaine in his whole form would assrape all Primarchs combined.

>>55212813
It' Pointless though.

>>55212816
Random SoB Canoness feat are more impressive than most Primarchs. So I fail to see the point.

>>55212818
you can do that.

>>55212769
>He is a wildcard that threatens to crumble the whole stack of cards.

>"B-But muh three gunships."

How you go back and forth between Primarchs are super-unstoppable demigods capable of overthrowing Abaddon's pathetic scheme by existing and are immune to fate AND Primarchs are shit anyone with a gunship can take one out Chaos will win easy anyway is truly something to behold. It's transparent you're just flicking back and forth depending on what you think will make Armless look less pathetic from moment to moment. As usual.

>>55212818

GW says you just use the Index for that shit.

>>55212818

Absolutely fine, they're legacy'd in, but they won't be getting further support unless they appear in later Codices.

>>55212804
100% agree

It took me weeks to slog through the book because I couldn't handle but the most minute sessions

>>55212840
>>55212846
Perfect. Thank you.

>>55212835

So...you only have sex without condoms or BCP? Otherwise...it's pointless?

>>55212835
This is bait, right? Even without getting into sex for procreation and sex for recreation, everyone masturbates, and masturbation is even more pointless than sterile sex for recreation.

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>>55211900
Assuming Terminators are the focus of your army, which versions are the best?

>>55212740
Necrons: A C'tan that managed to gather enough Shards of itself. I'd be down for a subfaction that is comprised of mindless oldcron-style Necrons following a C'tan that's growing in power and influence and hated by every Necron that still has the capacity for it.

T'au: Herohammer arguably goes against the entire ethos of their faction (save perhaps Farsight Enclaves), but if you really want to do it, it's simple really. There's nothing that says important persons (Fire Caste, anyway) have to be in Crisis suits, hell, one of the Eight pilots a Riptide and another a Broadside. So, take the most important special characters (Shadowsun, Farsight, import Kais from DoW) and put them in custom-made modified Riptide-or-higher-class battlesuits. Farsight in a modded Y'varna 1v1ing Daemon Primarchs? Sign me the fuck up.

Drukhari: GB2Commoragh and write some poetry about it, ya edgelords.

What are some good non primaris space marine starter boxes? Anything aside from the Start Collecting, and is that one good?

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>>55212838
Compare Girlyman's fight with Skarbrand with Calgar's fight with An'ggrath.

Calgar comes off as the stronger.

>>55212868
Pretty sure GK and CSM.

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>>55212448
Abaddon's pretty much always been portrayed as an extremely temperamental brute, who picked up the pieces after the Horus Heresy. Dangerous not because of some kind of supreme tactical acumen, but because he was slowly accumulating a critical mass of bodies.

As far as I can tell, it's basically just ADB saying otherwise. I'm not sure why he decided to try and make him a compassionate noble guy who just lurves all his space marine war buddies so dang much.

As someone who enjoys the tattered and embittered remnants of the long war angle of the chaos marines, it's quite maddening. They should be agents of pure hatred, not "we dindu nuffink, the emperor betrayed us first" faggots.

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>>55212816
LOL Calgar was fighting hard for his life when Guilliman showed up and won the same battle in a few minutes.

>>55212769
Thank the Ynnari for that! Goes to show that the big contribution of Eldar to the fate o the galaxy is reviving a human so he can do the heroing, but hey, it beats jacking off in the background.

>>55212895
That read like an anime script

>>55212892
>Abaddon is CSM Ghazghkull

hory shiitiru

>>55212815
>getting this triggered over an acronym

>>55212906
It's from Gathering Storm III, so...

Of course it would. I completely skipped GS2 because I figured I wouldn't be able to handle the Eldar's hyper-weeb shit. GS1 literally read like one of those old animes where everyone was dying in a war.

>>55212805
Unified, seems like it. Overwank, Sigmarines are a thing. Compelling, I'll have to respectfully disagree, anon. End Times' very nature made AoS inherently stake-less.

>>55212841
Girlyman power is not physically fighting, it's by directing the Imperium and uniting them.

In the WD about the "Return of the Primarch", it says they choose Girlyman of all the L-Primarchs because he was the most sensible and he won' rush to battle. He would organise the Imperium and command it rather than dropping everything to just fight. The WD said that if Russ was the one who returned instead he would have charged into Chaos and ended up getting himself killed.

>>55212891
Sorry, part of my post got cut off. Terminators for Loyalists, unless renegade chapters can steal from a better source?

>>55212869
Thinking about it, it is funny GKs got the GM DK.
Suit in a suit or piloting a robot piloting a bigger robot is something I expected from the mecha weebs

I wonder if the Tau codex will bring something like "Riptide Commander"

>>55212933
And then immediately after GS ends Guilliman embarks on the Indomitus Crusade or whatever it's called, rushing straight to battle all over the galaxy.

GW pls

>>55212892
>I'm not sure why he decided to try and make him a compassionate noble guy

Because there has to be more to Abby if you want anything other than a monotone character, I dont think he made him noble or a pal, he was constantly on the edge of beating anyone to death over any mistake, several times we hear Khayon affraid he might die because of his failure or that he might kill this marine over any perceived failure. Abadon is not noble or sensible, he is a brute savage thats building something.

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>>55212131

>>55212895
Outnumbered many times over. Doesn't change the fact that Calgar > Girlyman in a fight.

>>55212937

GK, if that's not an option, then DA or vanilla. DA have better and unique TEQ pound for pound, vanilla gets access to various suits for 4++ or M6" and HQs/CTs who sometimes provide decent stuff like +1S or -1 to hit from enemy fire past 12"

>>55212942
Look in the Indomitus Crusade section in the SM codex. Girlyman ignored battles that he could not win and left planets to their doom that he could not save, and focused on the main objective of giving P-marines to everyone. Russ would stubbornly choose to fight every battle to the end.

>>55212967
Cool, I'll have to recheck the faction rules to see if I'm able to take them, but would it be worth it to add Assault Termies if the rest of your army isn't very melee focused? The Storm Shields look to add a lot of survivability and could at least act like a shield wall against melee swarms

So that implies they won't be bringing back Russ anytime soon, otherwise it'll be a very short return.

>>55212826
Perhaps you're right. I haven't ruled out that I'm talking out of my ass and whining over nothing. Still, it being the very best the Eldar have to offer rankles.

>>55212953
>we hear Khayon affraid he might die because of his failure or that he might kill this marine over any perceived failure

Khayon failed give times. He might be Abaddon's friend but something gotta give.

Abaddon did punish him through. By giving him a lecture while choking him for several minutes.

>>55212991
>Russ would stubbornly choose to fight every battle to the end.

That's because there's no such thing as a battle Russ cannot win.

:^)

>>55213021

Yncarne is too weak is the problem. It should be similar to the Transcendant C'tan in 7E, that thing was a monster and a clear example of Primarchs not being the absolute ceiling.

>>55212958
>Calgar is fighting CSM
>On his last legs amidst a pile of dead
>Guilliman shows
>Blitzes through them all like Speedy Gonzalez
Keep telling yourself that, Carnac.

>>55212933
>Girlyman power is not physically fighting, it's by directing the Imperium and uniting them.
He's quite good at both. No wonder Horus wished he had Guilliman instead of an idiotic thug like Abaddon.

>>55213044
>Transcendent C'tan in 6E

Is what I meant.

>>55213047
Girlyman was fresh. Calgar was fighting since before the Black Legion arrived.

But see >>55212890

Calgar defeated the greatest thirster in combat. Girlyman could not defeat Skarbrand on his own.

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>>55212890
>Calgar comes off as the stronger
well, yeah

>shares a title with pedro as the oldest space marines ever
>friends-with-benefits with the emperor (who sends him nude selfies)
>fluffy cape for maximum comfort
>has a set of beakie armour
>uses stuffed tyranids for furniture
>does paperwork with his power gloves on
He isn't the spiritual liege for nothing.

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will this work?

Eldard
Yvraine

Wraithguard x 5 with Scythes
Wraithguard x 5 with Scythes
Wraithguard x 5 with Scythes

Wraithlord x 3 with Dual Lances, Dual Flamers, Glaive

Wraithknight

>>55213060
Horus wished he had all of the loyalist Primarchs. He was upset he got all the shit ones with issues. I honestly don't see how traitors could have won when loyalists have Lion, Russ, Gullyman, Khan, Sigismund, AND Sanguinius. Like holy shit have you ever seen more imbalanced teams? Traitors had what? Horus, Magnus, Angron, and maybe ascended Lorgar?

>>55212890
Funnily enough, in tabletop Little Annie would assrape like five Calgars at once.

>>55212895
Wow, when I said Gulliman overshadowed Calgar I didn't quite expect it to be this bad.

>>55212940
>Suit in a suit or piloting a robot piloting a bigger robot is something I expected from the mecha weebs
Despite the memery, Tau aren't really that close to Super Robot-style mechs, the ones you'd see piloting other bigger mechs. That's more the Eldar's domain. Tau battlesuits are closer to the real robot subgenre (though Imperial walkers and Tittans arguably more so). The comparatively grounded and logical approach (for 40k, anyway) of the Tau combat doctrine is one of the things I like about them.

>>55213089
>Girlyman was fresh

Bullshit, he had just been resurrected. That's basically woken up immediately after a tiring fight with Fulgrim that he lost, actually dying for real, then going through the stress of resurrection which is said to have taken a massive toll on him even after he had rested up and recovered.

>>55213060
Horus actually love Abaddon.

And you mean that Horus wanted the other Primarchs with him not the broken messes he ended up with.

>He's quite good at both.

No. Lost to Fulgrim. Was losing to Magnus. Couldn't defeat Skarbrand in a straight up fight.

>>55213015
Yeah, gotta keep Chaos around a bit more before they're utterly obliterated.

>>55213102

Like someone told you the last time you posted, Wraithlord suck balls.

>>55213107
It's not surprising seeing as how Calgar has never led more than a single chapter while Guilliman was the master in this particular niche even during the legion days.

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>>55212868

don't DANGLEs deathwing have goodies for termies?

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I'm bored and pretty okay at photoshop

Gimmie a 40k joke or whatever the fuck, and I'll try and make it a reality.

pic related, old shitpost I made

>>55213138
>lost to a top duelist
>lost to the strongest Primarch after factoring in biomancy
>lost to "one of the mightiest Bloodthirsters", a group of daemons who are strong eonugh to have killed Sanguinius, who is stronger than Guilliman

Well no fucking shit. People think Guilliman is weak, but he's strong as fuck, he's simply not as strong as the masters of combat and dueling.

Obvious Carnac. Can we try ignoring him for once please

>>55213138
Lost to Erebus. Lost to Fateweaver.

I don't remember very well . Did he also lose to Angron?

>>55213106
I like the implication that Sigismund is the Primarch over Dorn. That would be rad, picture Templars as a First Founding Legion.

>>55212171
Probably just falls apart and sells the IP.

>>55213189
Kor Phareon not Erebus.

>>55213189
>Lost to Erebus. Lost to Fateweaver.
>I don't remember very well . Did he also lose to Angron?

Don't forget that both he and the Lion couldn't even beat Curze.

>>55213107
>Tau battlesuits are closer to the real robot subgenre (though Imperial walkers and Tittans arguably more so).

I'd say calling them Gundams isn't completely wrong

>>55213172
Something about the top lists being character spam
Guilliman+assassins, particularly meatshields culexus for example, everywhere

Will Morty finally stop all the "Guilliman is too good" whining?

>>55213179
>>lost to "one of the mightiest Bloodthirsters", a group of daemons who are strong eonugh to have killed Sanguinius, who is stronger than Guilliman

Calgar defeated the master of all Bloodthirsters. The same Bloodthirster that Lorgar also defeated in the HH series.

LORGAR, dude. Lorgar.

>>55213015

Well, we have four MIA Primarchs to account for:
>Khan
>Vulcan
>Corax
>Russ
So I take it they'll be showing up at some point or another. They'll probably make up the middling returned Primarchs. Then the dead Primarchs:
>Dorn
>Manus
>Sanguinius
Are likely to make a return. But it's also entirely possible they'll be shuffled up in there. Seems like Manus has been teased as having joined the Legion of the Damned in about as much of a fluff blurb as Fulgrim has been teased about showing up.

>>55213216
>hur dur muh BL wank

Fuck you if you're honestly stupid enough to think Curze > Lion at fighting.

>>55213221
Why would it? There's room for more than one OP.

>>55213213
Oh yes confused the two.

>>55212911

There's absolutely no reason to add the loyal prefix. There is only Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines.

>>55213224
And that's how you know BL is full of shit. You realize this conversation also involves Abaddon being stronger than Horus, right? Read this shit and try and tell me with a straight face that the authors aren't inserting bullshit wank in favor of Calgar and Chaos.

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>>55213229
>Fuck you if you're honestly stupid enough to think Curze > Lion at fighting.

BL is canon anon.

Face the fact that "STRONGZ FEMALEZ IN MY WRITING, DADDY DON'T LOVE ME" ADB is now writing your hobby lore.

>>55213243
>don't even know who the fucking dude is because he's that unimportant to non-WBfags
>must be better than Guilliman though

Must be, right?

>>55212911

> so retarded you have to put loyal in front of the name so you can tell the difference when chaos already exists

How retarded are you honest question

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How do Nid players run Carnifex? What's effective? What's not?

I love a classic sreamer killer build, pic related.

So are tac marines garbage this edition? I'd like to run a Salamanders list but everyone keeps telling me tacs are worthless.

>>55213271
Fucking British Britbongs trying to talk shit about American Texans online on the Internet.

>>55213248
Calgar defeating Angry-Roth comes from a exclusive GW campaign book called Blood Oath.

>>55213281
They're good for taking guns. Can get two specials per 5 or 1 special 1 heavy.

inb4 morons saying that's wrong when combis are basically specials now

>>55213305
so are people running;

5 Tacs
1 Special (Assuming Plasma in most cases)
Sgt. has a combi/plasma

?

I looked at that with Salamanders due to the master crafted rule. You could actually overheat your plasma with them.

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Lore of Warhammer
BL
>chaos is best stepdad, Cabal, Perpetuals
GW
>muh gryliman, muh primaris
FW
>Alan Bligh death

Pic Related

>>55213281
>>55213305

And Salamanders chapter tactics optimize tac spam like nothing else.

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>>55213089
>Calgar defeated the greatest thirster in combat. Girlyman could not defeat Skarbrand on his own.
Guilliman had been fighting through the Warp for months and was fresh from a prison breakout. On his own.

>Girlyman was fresh.
Literally just got up from being almost dead.

>>55213322
Yeah. You can also split your guns now (like 1 melta 1 plas) and your heavy weapons can move and shoot.

>>55213138
>Horus actually love Abaddon.
Proof? And if he did, look at how his generosity was repaid by the ungrateful twat.

>>55213327

Because of master crafted plasma tacs?

>>55213138
>No. Lost to Fulgrim. Was losing to Magnus. Couldn't defeat Skarbrand in a straight up fight.
It's funny because Abaddon has yet to even face an actual Primarch at all and would assuredly lose to even the dumbest of them.

>Abaddon charges the defiant Mortarion, super-speshul magic Primarch-slaying daemon sword in hand
>Mortarion nonchalantly buzzes his wings and flies up
>Abaddon flails uselessly, Terminator armor makes acrobatics impossible so he can't even reach his toes
>Mortarion casually shoots him to death with Lantern

Or even better:
>Abaddon charges at Magnus, who can also fly
>Abaddon has no protection against psychic attacks and no ability to Deny the Witch
>Magnus raises his eyebrow slightly
>Abaddon's head explodes

>>55213322

I remember the first GT that won 1st place in some ITC shit for 8E was running the following setup for his troop taxes:

5 marines, 1 multi-melta, 1 combi-flamer, 1 power axe, 1 Razorback with TLAsC

Spammed multiple times.

Now I don't necessarily agree with the stuff he chose, but he's the one who won 1st place, not me. GC is generally the best heavy, and plasma is the best special. Flamers are also okay. RBs are also good.

>>55213362
The clone of Horus, that had the memories of Horus, recognised Abaddon and stopped fighting. He said Abaddon my brother, my son and drew close as if to embrace Abaddon. Abaddon smashed the Talon of Horus through the clone.

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>>55213172
Make a version of this pic, with the dead chaoscuck in the foreground as Wojak and the Imperial Fist beside him with the smoking pistol as Pepe, please.

>>55213380
>Magnus

considering in the fluff Magnus blows up fucking TITANS with his powers, I'm not sure how anyone beats him when he actually wants to win.

Unless he really wanted to let loose on Russ but Russ has that anti-psyker ability they keep hinting at in the books

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Posting it in the new thread

So earlier someone told me that my paints should be thinned, I had showed a model I did in long long ago that was obviously not super awesome but it holds a special place in my heart. I asked anon how I should thin my paints and all he said was 2% milk. And so out of hilarity and impulsiveness, I started work on my new Necron and thinned the paints with a very small amount of 2% milk and by some unholy boon It doesnt look shitty.

So behold person, the fruit of your unclear statement! (As it is so far not finished)

>>55213380
Abaddon needs new stats and a model since the Black Legion series establishes that he is as huge as Horus.

>>55213414

Thin more. The blue is too thick.

>>55213206
>I like the implication that Sigismund is the Primarch over Dorn.

I always thought there was a bit of cult of personality towards Sigismund, the 4th ed fluff has Sigismund as this paragon that everyone tries to imitate and then the FW HH has Sigismund leading a company that has his personal heraldry and they all try to emulate him, the entire point of the company is to be as good as him and then there's the Executioners who followed the Black Templars on their fascination for close combat because their founder really liked Sigismund.

Sigismund is the 7th legion's husbando.

>>55213411
If and when they bring Russ back, I'd be down for him being essentially Psyker-proof. I want to see how he could take Magnus, honestly.

>>55213395

Sweet, thanks anon. I'd have trouble spamming Razorbacks due to the bad taste the old spam left us but 5 man squads in rhinos sound fun.

TH/SS terms still good?

>>55213421
>Black Legion series
>BL
>canon
>literally first time this is heard of, contradicting all previous sources from higher tiers of canon

Yeah, sure he is. Nobody noticed or mentioned it for 10,000 years till now though right.

>>55213272
My bro at the store just plays carnifexes. JUST carnifexes. You dont know what fear is until you watch about 15-20 screaming battering rams run down the table at your army.

He plays them unupgraded, since they're cheaper that way. Old one eye is a must. Malanthropes are needed for synapse and protection. He uses rippery for holding objectives. Also, a stone crusher two for dealing with the big stuff

>>55213406
I mean the actual Horus, not the shit-tier clone.

Though it does nicely demonstrate how Abaddon is an ungrateful little brat.

>>55213411
Wait. Didn't Magnus die in the Webway portal?

>>55213475
Both had the same memories.

>>55213470
Refer to the Cheetah >>55213371

>>55213466
>Rhino waddles up to enemy
>4 meltaguns pop out

Muh purity seal covered diiiiiick

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>>55212552
Ita okay senpai, you payed extra for the thrill of the bid. Thats worth it

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somewhat new, and joining a 1k campaign where you don't get named characters, or forgeworld as CSM against an orc horde/couple of nids/conscript IG/2 generic IG/necrons. You only get one list for the whole campaign, and I am just drawing a blank on what can handle most of these guys. What kinds of guns do I want to have a lot of to keep the nids, and orks at bay? I have necron experience, but that is about it

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So we know that GW is bringing back primarchs and wanking Imperium vs Chaos to death. We also know that Horus is mega dead, and no amount of warp fuckery can put that egg back together.

The difference between a primarch and a marine is apparently a single organ, half of which Cawl found in the back of his fridge. Fabulous Bill cloned entire primarchs over a long weekend to win a bet, and is now investigating primaris marines. Abaddon is heavily hinted to be a clone of Horus.

What this all adds up to is Bill giving Abaddon the ol' primaris process, including a completed immortis gland to make him Horus 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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>>55212050

>>55213474
>Old one eye
I like how auras really make these fun playstyles more viable. Even if they are cheesed by WAACfags.

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>>55213334
>well at least you didnt lose to some overgrown roach

>>55213272
Run then cheap and in large numbers.
Double ST gives them an extra attack, Threser Scythe helps to kill grots and conscripts and doesn't have to be used every combat like bone mace does.
Run them with OOE to effectively make them ws 3 with re-rollable 1s.

>>55213432
Was meant to be as a highlight but also was thinned with milk so it obviously didnt set just right. Also the bad lighting and shitty phone camera makes it a lot worse looking than it actually is. On the other hand looking at your models in pictures like this helps you notice little details you may have missed, such as the spot at the bottom of the scythe blade, or the fact that I had a small cat hair stuck to the crown.

>>55213501
>orc horde
>nids
>conscript
>necrons
>no FW
>no IC HQ auras
>only 50% of the points you would normally have to work with, while hordefags don't care because their units are 300% undercosted

Don't bother.

>>55213421
Literally never says anything about his size in the long quote you love to post about him in a tank, just that he looks like Horus. That's always been established.

>Abaddon needs new stats
He just got them in the codex. Magnus rapes him without even trying, and it's a good bet Mortarion will too.

>>55213505
>The difference between a primarch and a marine is apparently a single organ

That's wrong.

>Fabulous Bill cloned entire primarchs

They weren't perfect clones. The guy can't even make perfect marines, let alone a perfect Primarch.

>>55213524
no way to counter that BS?

>>55213506
Is that a WAAAGH banner? Because if so, RIP guardsman.

>>55213505

Any boon Abbadon could take from the Chaos Gods would naturally come with a price. Anything he can steal from the Imperium comes no-strings-attached.

I can actually see that happening.

>>55213518

Wait for the paint to dry before applying more, or you will push half-dried paint around and create lumps.

>>55213506
>red weapons
>tunics, pants and armour are all different colours
I know the orks are yours, but those guard are schway

>>55213506

I really like those Sentinels. Compliment the guy on his his well done Sentinels.

>>55213538
Mass flamers, but then you lose to tanks, non-horde, and Necrons, and you probably won't have enough flamers to even beat the hordes to begin with due to 2" coherency and orks/IG bypassing battle shock.

>>55213535
>Literally never says anything about his size in the long quote you love to post about him in a tank, just that he looks like Horus. That's always been established.

Dude, there is a nother quote from Talon of Horus that I posted before that. It says that Abaddon and the clone of Horus WHO WAS WEARING HORUS'S ARMOUR were the same in every aspect except their eyes and smiles.

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>>55213506
>when you're so into the waaagh that your torso just pops out of your hip socket

>>55213572
>There was a cloned father and a prodigal son, surrounded by the dead and the wounded, so similar that only by their weapons and wounds could I tell them apart. That, and their different smiles.

-Talon of Horus.

And here is the quote.

>>55213568
>due to 2" coherency

This doesn't matter anymore, nevermind.

>>55213501
Try berserkers in rhinos

>>55213595
>using that quote as an argument

Horus literally has different armor than Abaddon, and yet you would take that quote as literal instead of figurative.

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>>55213572
>Still nothing about his height
>No work or model has ever shown him as remotely Primarch-sized
Here's an official picture of him vs. Loken. Is Loken now Horus-sized too?

>>55213535
Looked up Abaddon's stats. Rather unimpressive, I gotta say. Maybe I've been looking at too much FW.
>>55213538
As it happens, the best way to counter massed infantry is... massed infantry.

>>55213172
Mon'keigh Business movie poster

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>>55213414
Nigger what?? Milk?? Are you fucking stupid? Why would you do that? Thats hilarious, stupid, stupidly hilarious, and hilariously stupid!

>>55213609
It is literal. Khayon couldn't tell Horos Reborn from Abaddon apart expect for their weapons, smiles, and wounds. Why do you want Abaddon to be a manlet?

Hopefully in the next thread people will remember not to engage with cheetahs and carnacs

>>55213479
No he just got locked out of jerking around on the Moon, close enough to Terra to spit onto the Imperial Palace.

>>55213654
Just because Khayon is a blind retard doesn't prove anything.

>>55213621
>Art doesn't match the lore. News at eleven.

>>55213568
I have 2 havoc squads and considered having one go full flamers and move them up behind some cultists or pox with a plaguecaster using plague wind

>>55213599
no rhinos yet

>>55213624
no named characters so that makes my poxwalkers pretty weak, and I only have 20 cultists. should I just run s3 t3 poxwalkers as a shield wall?

>>55212503
The fish is MALE? Gross

>>55213414
....Anon wait.....you thought he meant to USE actual milk?

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>>55213505
>Horus is mega dead, and no amount of warp fuckery can put that egg back together.

That's where you're wrong kiddo

>>55213654
>Why do you want Abaddon to be a manlet?
Why must you contradict the art?

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So I got the FUCKING WOMBO COMBO off yesterday and it was glorious.

29 boys made the charge, then I had ghazzy and my waaagh banner follow them in on the flanks, made their fucking charges.

Earlier that turn I had my wierdboy put the +1 attack power on that horde

Mathtime.

Boys have 2 attacks base

1 extra attack for having a choppa

1 extra attack for having 20+ dudes in the unit

1 extra attack because fuck you Ghazzy is within 6"

1 extra attack because of Weirdboy power

and they all hit on twos because of the WAAAGH Banner

that's 6 attacks per boy, once I consolidated in I had 24 of them able to hit with 144 attacks hitting on twos at STR 4, along with the Nob sarge hitting with a PK with 3+ with 5 attacks.

Needless to say, I killed all three of his Muhrine squads and the dread I had charged.

>>55213702
>29 boys made the charge

Muckin about

>>55213698
see >>55213668

Text > art.

The Damocles art has the Tau bleeding blue when the text says that bleed red.

>>55213654
>It is literal. Khayon couldn't tell Horos Reborn from Abaddon apart
So Khayon is blind, misremembering 10,000 years ago, or just lying. Duh. No one else before or since has ever said anything about Abaddon being Horus-sized.

>>55213702
That is actually disgusting.

>>55213505
This is actually fine with me, if the Loyalists get fanfiction tier asspulls to their guys, why not Chaos? Shit why not everyone? I know the Orks deserve a Primarch sized Warboss.

>>55213717
>Text > art.
Source on that if you please.

>>55213717
Too bad there's no text saying Abaddon is the size of Horus.

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Who is this cheetah poster? I notice his autism in these threads from time to time but I try not to read his posts or give him (You)s

What are some good non primaris space marine starter boxes? Anything aside from the Start Collecting, and is that one good?

>>55213584
God damnit dont make fun of billy, he had a life threathening accident but he still wishes to waaagh

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>>55213721
I am confuse ... are there two cheetahfags now, or is cheetahfag suffering from multiple personality disorder and arguing with himself ?

Either is very disturbing ...

>>55213742
It's a shitty meme that started when GW renamed Eldar "Aeldari". It's a bannable offense, so just report and he will be banned eventually and you won't see it until the ban wears off or he evades.

>>55213718
Why would he lie about something so easily verifiable? The Primarchs heights are known to everyone and Abaddon leads from the front.

>>55213706
overwatch what can I say man, not to mention that was the ignored squad while a whole squad was wiped marching across the table

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>>55213721
Some fresh, dank cheetahs. Did you take some weeks off?

>>55213761
>Why would he lie

It's not a lie because it's not literal. Or are you going to claim every single phrase in that whole novel is literal?

>>55213758
There have always been multiple cheetahs you newfag

>>55212121
Relic Blades would be good on some characters too maybe.

>>55213737
Talon of Horus and Black Legion. Abaddon is Primarch huge.

>>55213731
Damocles series showing blue blood instead of red. Damocles series art showing Shadowsun in a non-fluffy battle. The xenology text says the Tau have hooves but the art showing toes.

>>55213761
Because "He could not tell them apart, save for one of them was a midget" doesn't sound as poetic.

>>55213772
It's hard to tell if that bear is laughing or nutting. or both

>>55213702
>144 attacks with one unit
Sweet God-Emperor.

>>55213793
>Talon of Horus and Black Legion. Abaddon is Primarch huge.

Post the text explicitly referring to Abaddon's height, not just "I COULDN'T TELL THEM APART GUYS". Just because you read something where some idiot says "his generosity was as enormous as the universe" doesn't mean someone is as big as a universe.

>>55213776
It is literal. At this point I will let the cheetah take over. >>55213789

>>55213702
noice

>>55213694

It seems to imply he knows he's being lead on, but did it anyway because it's the more hilarious option.

Also, just to see what would happen.