What do you think of my worlds map /tg/?

>>55210413
Turn it upside down, that'll improve it

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Much better like this.

>>55210413
>Extreme detail in the west
>Just a giant fucking landmass in the east
You ran out of ideas, huh? Maybe that's better, because if you do have ideas you do retarded shit like a fucking boot. Real landmasses don't have convenient shapes like that, learn about plate tectonics rather than drawing household items.

>>55210413

>insert realism joke

Anyway it's a pretty bad map, actually. Colors for biomes AND highlands, and the highlands are misteriously differentiated in some places (Balkans) and not in others (Alps, Turkey).

Pretty bad.

>>55210413
Couldn't get enough of that vital sea checkpoint could you? Just had to do it three times.

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>>55210413
Pretty sure I already saw it somewhere.

>>55210413
Go to /pol/ and ask them to fix it.

>>55210413
too much green, add more snow and deserts for variety

>>55210413
That big peninsula in the North. Did some aliens design it?

>>55210445
American here. I'm not sure what moving the capital of... I'm going to say Malta... is supposed to signify.

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Apply yourself.

>>55214021
He moved the capital of the Czech Republic from Prague to Brno.
Why, I don't know.

>>55214105
>He moved the capital of the Czech Republic from Prague to Brno.
You can't just throw random letters together and expect me to think it's a word.

>>55210445
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. Is this about Austria-Hungary or something?

>>55210456
>Extreme detail in the west
>Just a giant fucking landmass in the east
There's a lore reason for that. The Winter Empire tamed the Eastern Wastes which was full of cavemen and centaurs. It's technically divided between different republics, but they're all part of the same empire and they're more like provinces.

>>55210794
Look, there's Notspain!

>>55214048
It took me a second.

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>>55214342
Yes we can. I mean,
1 - it's a fantasy thread.
2 - nobody bothered to exterminate the Welsh, so that's honestly pretty tame.

>>55214556
>that "language"
Come on, try and learn something about linguistics, don't just throw random letters together.

Okay, so, is it possible to carve out the OP map into different potentially interesting political units? Or are the national boundaries more dependent on geography than I realize?

>>55214556
Not Welsh, but that's honestly more intuitive and easier to pronounce than most English spellings.

>>55210413
Martin did it with Westeros, so whgy the fuck not?

For bonus points: take one of the projected images of the Earth with the sea level raised about ten feet, or lowered by 30...

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>>55214342
That's where you're wrong kiddo!

>>55214556
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxO0UdpoxM

>>55214048
>who designed this, an alien?

If one did it would probably have been one with a a stupid sounding name like Slartibartfast or whatever bullshit.

>>55216177
Jeez, that joke took me way too long to get. Thanks

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>>55210413
>that place shaped like a boot
is this a fucking joke
you retard

>>55216142
Didn't drop a fucking beat, noice.

>>55214048
Good shit qeq

>>55216137
Honestly not that hard to get the hang of for a non-Pole as long as you understand that the z's aren't stand alone letters but make up parts of digraphs. So <szcz> isn't supposed to be pronounced /szkz/ or anything like that, but rather /ʂt͡ʂ/

>>55216416
Was this arrived by any specific method, or just kinda winging it, maybe chanting 'I'm crushing your head!' and pinching countries together?

>>55214105
Brno was the capital of Moravia

>>55216457
So, what does it mean to shift the capital from what I assume was an important HRE stronghold to another absorbed nation? Does it imply a Moravio-Hungarian empire instead? I don't into European history, so I have no idea. But it's the only change, so clearly must be important for this rpg setting!

>>55216722
Pretty sure it's just internal nationalistic bullshit

Fix the top part, it looks like a flaccid dick.

>>55214556
To be fair, that's not the actual name, more of a publicity stunt.

It's like how no one ever actually calls Bangkok Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit

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>>55217146
Useful worldbuilding insight there, Captain Buzzkill.

>>55217330
I've always figured as much. Still, doesn't change the fact that several Welsh heroes in the Mabinogion sound like they were named after sneezes.

>>55217391
True, and Llanfair Pwllgwyngyll still isn't an easy name if you don't know Welsh.

>>55217384
Internal nationalistic bullshit is the best kind of worldbuilding

>>55217429
Eh? What're you thinking? An Austria rife with a Moravian separatist movement?

>>55217438
It's more of a general statement.
But yes, you can take any old nation that was absorbed by another one (say, Romania in Hungary) and crank up thier desire for freedom. Then you get a nice nigh-genocidal war, Yugoslavian-style

>>55216137
Every time I think about Poles being Slavs I cringe a little. I'm not even this ashamed of Russians or Serbs. The fuck is up with your language for real.

t. a Slovenian

>>55217460
Well, obviously, they're slavs mixed with whatever people steak parceltongue natively

>>55217456
Ah, okay!
So! At some point in the past, an increase in pro-Moravian sentiment led to the capital of Austria getting moved from Vienna to the old capital of Moravia. This has enflamed tensions with the HRE-descended peoples of the western part of the country. Brno, of course, has no interest in breaking away, having more political control atm, but elements in Vienna are considering wresting control back, or even joining back up with Germany!
Just takes one or two unlucky incidents for this to get interesting - especially if other nearby countries have opinions on what should happen to Austria.

>>55217606
>especially if other nearby countries have opinions on what should happen to Austria.
Please don't bully Austria. I live there.

>>55216416
>Turkey is now Cathay
>Cathay is an Archaic word for China

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>55217421
There's only a few things that could trip foreigners up, really. And it's that w is a vowel in between consonants, pronounced /u/ or "oo" if you're an anglo, that simple f is voiced and is pronounced /v/, and that the digraph ll is an unvoiced alveolar lateral fricative which is very rare among other European languages but can be described as either an unvoiced l, or an s pronounced at the sides of the tongue.

>>55210413
>Netherlands gets two stars

We deserve it.

>>55214556
>nobody bothered to exterminate the Welsh
Because then who would make the grape soda?

>>55210413
it's unironically perfect for a game

>>55214048
>HERE BE ELVES
Always gets me.

>>55210445
Why would you move the Czech capital from Bohemia to Moravia? I mean, stupid obscure history jokes are fun, but isn't a joke about fucking Great Moravia a bit too obscure?

>>55219214
Great Moravia is the joke, anon.

>>55219194

Refugees-friendly elves would be kinda different tough, I guess.

>>55210413
Seen it a thousand time before, m8.

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>>55219394
>Finnmark, Russia and northern Finland
>friendly

>>55217697
Look, would you rather have Turks or would you rather have Chinese?

>>55216416
>Blast Bay
Good job America, ya killed the pyramids!

>Door
>Fucking Door
>As in, the thing that opens and closes

>>55210413
>Mediterranean climate spanning that far

Dumbass

That climate only exists on the WEST side of a continent

Immersion ruined

0/10 would not enjoy fantastical adventures

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If your world map fits neatly into a rectangle, it's either bullshit or a space station.

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>>55218618
So, in Welsh, and nowhere else in the English language, the w actually IS a double-u?
Mind. Blown.

>>55210794
Wow, what is this messy shit? This looks so incredibly ugly, damn.

>>55220873
Maybe the Melanin-powered reactor blew up and the pyramids are ground zero

>>55222040
Welsh is a completely separate language from English. But yeah, pretty much.

To understand why we must explain the history behind the letter itself though. In Ancient Latin, no real distinction was made between the consonant /w/ and the vowel /u/ (much like in Welsh today) and sound we today represent with v didn't exist at all. So the Romans used the letter V to represent their rounded semivowel (much like how they used the letter I to represent both /i/ and /j/) and everything was fine. Over generations, however, the pronunciation started shifting in the Latin language, and what had previously been pronounced /w/ became to be pronounced /v/. So now we have a single letter that's sometimes pronounced like a consonant /v/ and sometimes a vowel /u/. And sometime during all of this U was invented as an alternative way to write V, though it still meant the exact same thing.

However, as the Latin script spread to the Germanic people they needed a way to represent their /w/ sounds and decided to do so by doubling the Roman letter, so either VV or UU (see, double-u, clever right?), which eventually simplified into w.

>>55222016
Or you've zoomed out far enough.

>>55222016
or its a projection.

>>55210413
>Equatorial desert
Bullshit that's not how deserts work

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>>55227008
Any projection of Earth contains large portions of empty ocean. I'm talking about insanity like this.

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>>55227748

>>55210794
smilingCaim.gif

>>55227890
However implausible the continent shapes are, aSoIaF never states it's the entire world

>>55228103
Aside from some of the rivers, why is it implausible?
Not being funny, genuine noob question.

>>55227748
thats clearly just a map of part of the world not the whole world. or the whole known world if you will.

>>55227748
>Constantinople, Aero City and Papillia are all in the same polity
>Half the names are stolen from the Elder Scrolls, The Witcher and Pokemon of all things
>Gulf of Davin, Steve's Swamp

Jesu Crist, these names are terrible

>>55228678
The whole rectangular continent thing is about how you can fit Westeros neatly into a rectangular map, without large stretches of ocean or other continents.
If you try and do the same thing with, say, Europe, you end up with a lot of sea to the north of Iberia, along with probably a good chunk of north africa and asia minor being included too

Essentially, it's almost like Westeros is designed to fit neatly into a map in a book, with as little "wasted" space as possible. But that'd be crazy, right?

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>>55229449
eh. you get a similar fit with africa.

>>55229861
Lots of wasted space bottom left, fair amount on entire right side.

>>55229873
the westeros map posted earlier in the tread has similar wasted space. Just more upper right and down the left side instead.

>>55229861
If you ignore the bottom left and top right quarters of the map entirely. And most of the bottom right too
But hey, at least the top left is mostly africa. Specifically the part of africa no one cares about

>>55214048
Wait, where did brittany, ireland, and spain go?

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>>55227748
Coincidence?

>>55222016
>Just giant transparent sections that look out into the void.
Can you imagine how fucking weird it would be to look down and see stars underneath you for kilometers?

>>55231402
>and see stars underneath you for kilometers?
Don't you mean "infinity?"

>>55231416
I think he means the distance between the edges of the landscape.

Like you'd look out and see a sea of stars between yourself and the next segment of passable land.

>>55231416
>Don't you mean "infinity?"
What?
Only some sections of the cylinder appear to be transparent and because you're on the inside there would never be a horizon so at any point you would be able to see both transparent and opaque sections.

>>55227748

Fort Death and Steve's Swamp sound like total shitholes.

>>55230042
That Westeros map only has wasted space because it insists on including the Free Cities for no reason at all. Cut out Essos entirely and it looks like Martin got hold of a piece of graph paper and decided he couldn't ever cross the boundary or he'd have to get another one.

>>55220873
Most that map is injoke crap, but Door (pronounced Do-er) is the most weird meme material of them all.
hyper Republican NOT-England just north of totally NOT giant Scotsmen and near an island of green magic faeries.

>>55219194
Fuckig Vanheim man

>>55217697
>turkey
>nkt Byzantium

>>55225560
Or zoomed in close enough

>>55217421
To be honest, I'm welsh, and i don't know a single person who doesn't use the shorthand, which is Llanfair p-g.

Give me themes, settings or quirks for either a town, battle or world" map and I'll draw it.

>>55222040
>Welsh
>In the English language

DDYLECH CHI FFEINDIO BONT A NEIDIO O'I BEN, GONT.

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Map thread?

>>55236017
An ocean of blood!

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>>55236114
Protip: If your magic is decent, there's a tp book in Uttaku that can teleport you in ten or so locations, including Dweomer that has a tp pitt in the forest that can teleport you in ten other locations, including Brazen, that has three magical portals into the mines that can teleport you too.

With the tp run you can go almost everywhere very fact.

>>55216142
>That little smile after he nails it

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I threw this together for a play-by-post ERP campaign with a bunch of people from /tg/. Worldbuilding with the group has been really fun since they actually seem invested in trying to make the world interesting while also including potential for lewds.

>>55236149
Well here it is, ready to slap down names and cities. forgive me for the ass quality been distracted and blood oceans aren't that easy to make.

>>55236412
... Vacancies?

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>>55236701
whoopa

>>55210413
That peninsula in the sea on the right should belong to that big country on the right, it has more sense like this.

>>55236729
This is metal as fuck.

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>>55227748
>Cletus Town
>Dick Meum
>Sex Mundi
>Fahrt

>>55236412
Fun fact, "belka" is the Russian for squirrel. Also, the Russian slang word for delirium tremens (in Russian: [belaya goriachka]).

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>>55236412
>Belka

>>55217697

It's referred to different places near modern day China. And the term is of Muslim origin, describing what is today the area around Mongolia.

Might be going for a kind of Pan-Orient flavor.

>>55229449

It's just the British isles blown up. The British isles fit conveniently into a map in a book.

>>55236729
This hurts my eyes.

Why did you make the blood red?

>>55237609
I was distracted, I didn't put much attention into it.
Looks pretty metal with crimson tho.

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>>55214021
>Malta
>a goddam mediterrean island
>Czech republic
>a goddam landlocked nation
maximum overrustle

>>55237640
Whats the yellow shit, Flood plains?

>>55237959
Rivers of puss/fat

>>55237969
Yo thats fuckin' gross, where is food grown?

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R8 my map /tg/

>>55236725
This was not the response I expected.

>>55237066
Interesting. I liked the sound of the word, but I'll remember that when it comes to worldbuilding. One of our players is learning Russ- wait, is that you?

>>55237081
I stole a lot of the place and character names from media. I'm glad someone noticed.

>>55238600
IMPERATOR/X

Is there any good map making tools for amateurs?

>>55238799
I used Inkarnate. It worked well enough for what I needed.

>>55238600
God damn.

Truly the sexiest borders of all time.

>>55238855

Want to know something else? They called the Mediterranean "Mare Nostrum," Our Lake.

>>55230683
>Wicked Witch of the West
>Right side of the map
Fuck you, Baum, fuck you with your own stupid fucking compass rose.

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>>55240417
>It wasn't me but cпacибoх тoвapищ.

>>55238736
It wasn't me but пpивeт тoвapищ.

>>55240445
I was going to say thank you for thinking of me but decided to just say hi instead, тoвapищ.

>>55238799
Learn basic photoshop.

>>55239261
>>55230683
>Good Witch of the North
>In the fucking south

>>55238600
>>55238855
>That fucking divot of territory just above the Balkans
What the fuck? They couldn't just take that tiny bit of land to have a cleaner border?

>>55230683
>oogaboo

>>55230683
Is it just me or would the maker of this map really like /pol?

>>55242053
Clean borders is of a secondary concern to whether the land is actually valuable and worth fighting over.

>>55242006
In that case isn't the map just flipped?

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What about this map?

>>55242006
Glinda _is_ the good witch of the South though, unless you're a pleb who's only seen the film. Locasta is meant to be the witch that turns up when Dorothy arrives in Oz.

>>55242053
>>55242276
Border security is also really hard to maintain on the other side of a 1000 foot wide river; that divot is the line of the Danube

>>55242599
Honestly, take out the Black Sea and Suez and this map isn't half bad.

>>55242599
Love it! Very good map for a a naval campaign. It almost looks like it could be a real place.

>>55242599
Impossible erosion topography, especially in the Scandinavian sea. Run it through a couple of rounds of simulated weathering and you'd be better off

>>55236114
Looks like Canada

>>55238438
>where is food grown
That is the food

>>55238779
Underrated post.
>>55238799
I like Hexographer. Simple, can be used for all sorts of large scale hexagon maps. The bad side is it isn't very immersive.

Doing a map for muhfantasy world and having problems with water and wind paths. There are areas I want to keep dry and desertic, but I don't see were to place them so they don't get any humidity.

>>55248388
Don't worryboutit.
Just do a map you think looks cool and your players will love it.

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>>55222016
>mfw my generic fantasy setting is actually taking place on a space station

Star Gods built it to keep life going for when the sun went out.

>>55248850
I had wanted to run one set on a series of cylinder worlds that are connected on spherical axis at the ends.

Though, the hard part is figuring out how to make that a reveal without just... hiding the curve with magic.

>>55210658
Highland/Alpine *is* a biome.

>>55248771
Thanks.

Still, I feel like understanding these things would ease my worries at least.

>>55248928
Mine's a flat dish like the flat-earther's think the world is, but the borders are protected by lesser deities created by the Star Gods.

The whole night sky is an illusion because the stars are all dead. It's literally the twilight of the universe.

>>55249070
It was a tidbit of inspiration from Isaac Arthur's video series on sci-fi megastructures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86JAU3w9mB8

>>55242599
Took me a minute
>Northland
>Well that's a dumb name
>Eastland
>I am sensing a theme
>Finland
>Wait what?
>Danish Gulf
>Uhh
>Lake Britain
>That looks a lot like Britain
>Oh wait

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>>55249564
wew

Also E.D.N, like really?

>>55249023
Its easy: Rivers flow from mountains or caves near mountains, coasts works in oblongs because how wave errosion works and aesthetically it doesn't hurt to add one or few dabs of forrest here and there.

Just make a landmass you'd think would be the best for an adventure and enjoy yourself, the last part mostly. This is a fun, relaxing part of the hobby to do while you listen to a podcast or some good tubes.

>>55248850
Oh god i want to play something like this so bad.

>>55236725
>>55238736
I second this. World building and mild lewds are two of the most fun parts or roleplaying.

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r8

>>55251978
>saaristomeri
my limited knowledge of finnish says that this means
>sea of islands

>>55252063
It's descriptive, at least.

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What about my map, /tg/?

>>55214048
Thanks, I'd been looking for that pic for a while

>>55252288
Very real and very new, 10/10.

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>>55210445
Now I'm confused. What happened to Czechia ?

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>>55252438
>Not posting the true map of patrician taste.

>>55252629
The Khanate shall rise

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>>55252629
Nevar forget the hyperwar

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>>55253029
>graphs without units of measurement
>graphs without titles on the X axis

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>>55252629
i cri evritime

>>55219194
Sapmi are basically dwarf looking elves anyways.

>>55253082
>Not knowing the exact date and time of each part trough your finnohungric me.G.amemories

T.Israeli lizardmen

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modern map design is always so full of details

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Not exactly world map but heres the local plutocracy I've been making, dunno about names or what the theme is gonna be outside jews in fantasy, probably dwarves or humans.

>>55254134
What the fuck piece of shit is that?

>>55256060
nuGW at it's finest, worldbuilding their new setting with style.

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What changes?

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>>55216416
>>55214048
>>55238600
>>55242599
>>55247951
Dropping my own map here too.

>>55256365
I like it for the most part, but I don't agree with the city placement. It's a bit hard to figure out where they should go without any marked rivers. I see you have a Byzantium between the Bronze and Cirpentaranian Seas, but what about the Pelic and Shining Seas? I'm a big fan of pseudo-Mediterranian inner seas.

What method did you use to make it?

>>55254134
>burning blood bridge
>rain of corpses
>mortuary factory
>those shits in the whirlpools
It's awful. I bet you can't actually make worse.

>>55256445
I'll draw some rivers in and maybe major roads.
I'll gladly take your suggestions for historical 1500sish cities around "Gibraltar" I can tweak.

>>55256365
Nice. What did you do with this, WW1-alike sort of thing?

>>55256104
you're kidding me. You can't tell me someone got paid money for that

>>55256565
Perhaps a play on Granada since they held it in the late 1400s?

>>55256622
It's more Age of Exploration slash Napoleonic.

>>55256680
Sounds sick.

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>>55256743
Just to complete the meme, I had sequel setting The New World WIPped out 3 years ago.
It was going to be Pirates + Dinosaurs + Priest-kings, but Magic the Gathering got the jump on me with their new block.

>>55256834
It's great anon

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>>55256622
>What did you do with this
Back when 5e first came out, I DMed a game that lasted about a year from level 1 to level 8.
This world idea came from the players, they all picked variant human so I went with a more "realistic" world where the elves and dwarves died out in the Ancient Age before man. The "Dungeons" were old ruins from that war buried and forgotten by the human kingdoms.
The map evolved from a simple character creation backstory guide, to what I feel is a full setting. I even have a lore bible for all the little details most of which never came up in the game, sigh.

>>55256668
>>55256565
Quick update I decided to evoke some kind of Twin Cities vibe, good for seafaring adventure idea.
Also named the little islands.

>>55257193
Was this an RL game, or online?

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>>55257489
It was in-person tabletop with four players, my brother, his college friend, and each of their wives. Eventually we subbed in my other friend to take over when one of the wives had to drop.
The party ended up being Wizard, Cleric, Barbarian, and Rogue, all humans. The campaign took place in Northern Gothos The map helped everyone decide which nationalities to make their characters. That's about as helpful a s you can expect of a worldmap so I was pretty satisfied with it.

>>55256499
The fact 80% of graphical elements are copypasted several times is icing on a cake.

>>55257193
Can we read the lore bible?

>>55254134
Wait who is pushing the corpses to make it rain ?

Also what is this weird green shit? The sky or the sea?

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>>55257737
Now that I reread it it's super incomplete, one of these day's I'll refresh it if I need to run another game as GM and if players want to reuse the setting.

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>>55257737
However one of the players took the time to write an In Character Journal which was a transcript of the first bunch of game sessions, I was really impressed how much effort he put into it, it's worth a read of what actually happened in the game.

>>55258058
>Not-Islam is either chaotic or lawful evil depending on whether you're Sunni or Shiite
hooboy

>>55258058
>>55258097
Doubt you're still around but you should run /tg/ a game on roll20 or something.

>>55258808
This was a few years before the new /pol/ culture war, it was a reflection of historical views on slavery and human rights.
In the metaplot Kartolia is raiding the coastline of Basilika and plundering trade ships, so they are somewhat of a villain faction.

>>55259280
I've never done a roll20 game I wouldn't know where to start.

>>55259726
Give it a go sometime. It's a real handy tool.

Also, barbary pirates. I getcha. Neat.

>>55259929
How much of a hassle is it to dress up the dungeon grid, do people expect deluxe tiles and icons or is black and white scribbles OK?

Is there some youtube video of an example game so I can see what it's like?

>>55243715

>assuming it's erosion

Could be sea-level rise.

>>55216316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-fcrn1Edik

>>55260343
I think it depends on the people but I have no problem with scribbles.

You can probably look up plenty of videos on how it works.

Anyone have any tips for drawing coastal maps

>>55216142
>m.youtube
Get out of here, phoneposter.

>>55256108
Russia's alot warmer and easier to invade.

>>55247951

this is a beautiful map imo. anyone know what font that is or is it hand drawn, figure?

>>55227748
>Border Fort
>Border Fort
>Border Fort
>Instead of a fourth Border Fort that would fit the pattern there's Ire

This is genius.

>>55253145
>Wewuzian Egypt
Rest of the map is good but that's trying way too hard.

>>55243416
Which again ties into how valuable the land is. In this case, clearly, the Romans calculated that the land wouldn't be able to produce nearly enough wealth to be worth the cost of having to defend it.

>>55256104
>>55256655
I mean, if I had been told that it was something found on an autistic twelve year old's deviantart, I'd have believed it.

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>>55216416
>Barbarossa

>>55256108
>>55262792
Not so fast there buddy!
http://www.worlddreambank.org/T/TURNOVIA.HTM

>>55227748
>Jack Schitt

>>55227748
>Haram
>Boko
>Molag Nutz

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Time to post that of ye old /tg/ legend

>>55235447
For what purpose?

>>55210413
>that huge dick and balls
Wow really mature op

>>55268442
Betcha it's the home of seafaring barbarians figuratively "raping" the continent.
Not to mention that fucking boot in the south. No doubt the land "holding up" an immense empire.

Really subtle OP.

>>55247951
>gog and magog

Why does everyone hate the turkics ?
If it is about the raiding that was just a joke.

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Is that a good map?

>>55210445
This anon here is what we Capitals call Brněnská kunda.

>>55268938
Its basically the turkish flag as a landmass.

>>55216457
Anon, you spelled Olomouc wrong.

>>55216294
Yes. It quite obviously is.

For fuck's sake.

>>55269021
>set is inspired by the new world
>continent is shaped like the turkish flag
was erdogan right after all?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/16/muslims-discovered-america-erdogan-christopher-columbus

While we are on map topic.

What are good map making programs?
Both world size and battle grid size.

How would you make an old style map look "evil"?

>>55269078
I don't think that anon was being serious, other anon
But then sarcasm never works on the internet

>>55210413
Unrealistic/10
Start again

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>>55269015
Up yours, kamaráde, up yours.