Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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New IG units when?

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chunky bois best bois

>>55206053

Pls recut catachans....

Best way to run a Daemons army?

My guess is to stock up on heralds and greater daemons since they are psykers and smite spam is good.

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>>55206055
Primitive, superstitious, delusional, disease addled simpletons.

These are the real best bois.

I've only got a small amount of orks so far, how would you expand this:

>Warboss on foot
>5 nobz
>22 boyz (including 2 power klaw nobz and 2 big shootas)
>3 killa kanz
>deffkopta

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Post HQs.

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>>55206121

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>Every copy of the limited edition has been stored in a damp building for at least 12 months, for that realistic nurgle-y smell.
Jesus christ GW, calm down.

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>>55206068
I would start collecting IG so hard if they did that

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>>55206019
Is that motha fuckn tallyman in the back?!?

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>>55206107
A wartrakk or two? Gives some more maneuverability and are cheap.

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>>55206121

>Mortarion gets an aoe Smite that can't be denied and doesn't cause perils
Fucking lmao

>>55206139
>Just gonna put my barrel in your hole, Lord of Skulls-Kun

>>55206166
>7" range, once per unit
>on a 4/5/6

Wow totally worth 475 points.

>>55206105
Give 'em another 40,000 years and their FTL-less ships might even reach Terra.

>>55206139

>A Catachan Tuesday

>>55206189
>B-but I reap skulls from there, Bane Blade-kun.

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>>55206105
>Warps behind you
>Unsheathes plague knife
Pshh nothing personnel xenos

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>>55206210

>Give 'em another 40,000 years and their FTL-less ships might even reach Terra.

kek

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Morty preview info

Stitched together into one image to ease to reposting over and over and over again.

>>55206206
Pretty sure he's got other means of attacking the enemy as well, anon.

>>55206252
Lantern better be S6 AP2 2D6 Assault.

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For 24 smackeroos....

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>>55206121

>>55206274

Cheaper on ebay

>>55206257
What do you think his scythe will do?

I think it will do damage overspill. Something like S12, Ap-3, 3 damage, rerolls wounds and damage is not lost.

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>>55206121

>>55206274
Yes, goy. Dont come up with good ideas to add corpses for basings or dioramas, buy our line of 3 more easily recognizable corpses for cheap!

>>55206274
>ultramarine is a skellington
>still blood on his wounds
Spooky/10.

>BIG fucking box arrives
>It's from China
>Spontaneously ejaculate furiously
>Open it and lick the Cancer Resin
>Hair on arm raises
>Weak knees
>Nut hard and shrivel up
>Life is good

>>55206315
I think it's more 'no one told GW that dey blood is black'...

>>55206210
We have FTL!

Just really short warp jumps.

>>55206206
>once per phase
Wow just like Smite then

But Morty also knows actual Smite, since he's a psyker. And then he has Phosphex grenades, and he has the Lantern. You are just a faggot limited of vision.

>>55206328
Post pics

>>55206147
That's not Angron though

>>55206055

Is GW releasing a proper multi-part kit for these guys?

I'd hate to see every single new plastic Plague Marine be monopose just like the old metal/finecast ones.

>>55206347
Yes.

>>55206347
Yes sometime after the 22nd.

>>55206273
maybe it does mortarional wounds

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>>55206343
Not him but I got a massive crate of chinese cancer recently.

Mostly garbage and not cheap enough to be worth the shitty quality. Everything that isn't OOP is going to be getting used for scenery.

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>>55206374
I get it

>>55206347
yes
also multipart DG terminators
and a web-only 3-pack of monopose DG variants

>>55206342

>Phosphex Grenades

What will those do in 8th Edition? IIRC in Horus Heresy 30k they create dangerous terrain wherever they explode

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>>55206019
>Tallyman in the background.
>Plague Doctor in the foreground.
>Probably 45-60 dollars a model
I still want them. :/

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>>55206235
>Implying they won't wreck the nearby necrons and steal dolmen gates technology
>Implying they won't map and fix the whole webway problem
>Implying they won't become unstoppable now that they can casually kill off unopposed all the most important imperial planets faster and before they can respond the call for aid
Your time ended long ago gue'la, embrace the Tau'va or walk into oblivion you primitive!

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rate my 2k list:

Spearhead detachment - Chaos

>HQ
Warp Smith
Iron warrior, Warlord - Cold and Bitter, Flesh metal exoskeleton, Combi Melta

>Troops
Cultists
26x Cultists, 1x cultist champion, Iron warriors

Cultists
26x Cultists, 1x cultist champion, Iron warriors

>Heavy Support
Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Basilisks
3x Basilisk w/ Heavy Bolter

Basilisks
3x Basilisk w/ Heavy Bolter


Supreme command - Chaos

>HQ
Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

>>55206412
They'll have to some crazy shit to be worth using over Lantern

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>>55206464
Try me bitch.

>>55206464
Necrons are one of the few factions that genuinely out-techs the tau. The blueberries can innovate all they like, they're still getting thrown off Old Man Hendercron's lawn.

>>55206478
Ves'ron, your time has passed, give in, give us your technology and pass from the galaxy peacefully.

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"""""""""""""""""""""""""fun"""""""""""""""""""""""""

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>>55206464

Let's put your medical technology to the test and see who's "primitive", shall we?

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>>55206464
OY YA COWARDLY GITZ!! GET OFF MA STOMPIN' GROUND N CRY TO YA SMELLY PAPA UNTIL YOU GROW SUM REAL MUSCLES TA WEILD A REAL WEAPON.

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>>55206343
Call it out

The Legio Custodes Squad x 2
Canoness Veridyan x 1
Battle Sister Squad x 3
Sisters of Battle Hospitaller x 1
Battle Sister with Imaginifer x 1
Chaos Space Marine Lord x 1
Chaos Space Marine Chosen x 1
Chaos Space Marine Helbrute x 1
Chaos Space Marines Squad x 2
Mortarion The Reaper x 1
Chaos Space Marine Terminators x 1
Huron Blackheart x 1
Word Bearers Contemptor Dreadnought x 1
Primaris Captain x 1
Primaris Librarian x 1
Primaris Apothecary x 1
Primaris Chaplain x 1

>>55206474
what models did you use for the Princes?

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>>55206412
I would imagine a template akin to this. Off the Kastelan Robots.

It'll probably keep the ignores cover rule it has.

>>55206252
I'm interested with how phosphex will work in 8th edition, it sure won't be the same without the awesome lasting templates.

>>55206514
>he doesn't have fun stomping butthurt scrubs
Faggot

>>55206474

How do you get Basilisks in a CSM list?

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>>55206514
I'm not playing against these people.

>>55206541

Phosphor =/= Phosphex

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>>55206478
>Try me bitch
It's canon that tau technology already surpassed Necrons in almost everything but pocket dimensions and dolmen gates, now it's only a matter of time before necrons near the empire are over run by the T'au

Should named characters just be blanked banned from everything that isn't Narritive Play or Open Play? I feel like it'd remove a lot of the fuckery that's going on in the game right now.

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>>55206548
Renegades and Heretics (Imperial Armour - Index Imperial Guard) gives the Chaos keyword to various guard units, including Basilisks.
>>55206534
iron circle

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>>55206121

keep sending n all your soul grinders!

>>55206530
That's not a "BIG fucking box".

See >>55206390

>>55206571

>It's canon that tau technology already surpassed Necrons in almost everything but pocket dimensions and dolmen gates, now it's only a matter of time before necrons near the empire are over run by the T'au

Let's see your source on that.

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>>55206493
Flat out false, for example T'au aircrafts already outperform all necrons aircraft, it's canon.

>>55206574
No Magnus, Bobby G, Ynarii fuckery, or Celestine? Yes please.

>>55206019
Getting back into 40k after a year long hiatus and looking to resume Grey Knights. In the rules it says that a psyker can only use the same power once per phase, that does include Smite right?

>>55206571
It's time to stop shitposting Shadowsun.

>>55206574
Fuck that

I finally get to bring Ahriman and not feel like I pissed away the game

>>55206571
Am I being trolled
Help. Police

>>55206571
>necrons, who can literally destroy pieces of reality and remake themselves from almost nothing
>some weeb shit that can't even properly stop plasma from overheating
w e w l a d

>>55206624
No.

>>55206612
Google it yourself I won't spoon feed some new fag that doesn't know shit.

>the bit where Mortarion calls the marines his "nephews"
That made the video all the more chilling. GW did a really good job with it.

>>55206624
IIRC He can only cast it once, but everybody can cast it no matter if he did

>>55206630
Ghost of aunva is shitposting
Call in another culexus

>>55206624
>
Yes, each psyker unit cannot attempt smite more than once.

Do also note, in matched play any power (other than smite) cannot be attempted more than once per turn - i.e. smite is the only power than more than one psyker can attempt to manifest.

>>55206657
>BURDEN
>OF
>PROOF

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>>55206610
>what is an opinion
It's BIG for me. Does /tg/ do dick measuring with box sizes now?

>>55206571
>>55206621
>citation needed

>>55206657
He doesn't have a source.
>Hey guise I'll just say that it's cannon and it totally is
>Muh headcannon counts, right guise?
>guise?

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Leave Mortarion to me!

>>55206693
>Does /tg/ do dick measuring with box sizes now?
Okay, it's a big box.

We'll call my delivery a chest.

>>55206721
Sounds fair to me. Did you get everything you wanted? Any issues?

>>55206568
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Phosphor_Weaponry

> "If you haven't guessed by its name, Phosphor Weapons basically fire White Phosphorous in SPESS! Called Phosphex, though the crawling horror of Phosphex Weapons is all but forgotten in the Imperium, the blinding white fire of Phosphor weaponry is still utilised by the warriors of the Skitarii Legions to mark out high priority targets amongst battlefield murk."

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>>55206707
AHHH SAVE ME NURGLE

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>>55206571
>>55206621
Asshurt blueberry detected.

>>55206707
Is Morty's heart shinanigans still canon?

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>>55206121
Still win atm, need to finish his head, but here you go.

>>55206739
I got everything.

It's mostly of shit quality and not cheap enough to make it good value compared to buying actual FW.

As I said, I'll build the OOP units but the rest is getting used for scenery.

I got:

2x mars alpha russ plus a shit load of turrets
2x hydra
2x destroyer
3x armageddon basilisk
2x lightning
2x avenger
1x thunderbolt
1x crassus

>>55206779
wip, not win, fuck

>>55206637
Then play Narritive or Open :^)

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>>55206776
Yes. Pic related.

>>55206803
>play competitive game mode
>don't get to play competitive units
Sounds retarded. I'm glad GW hasn't get pandered to you fucking retards.

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>>55206688
>>55206700
>>55206770
>>55206706
Look it up on the death from the skies expansion fluff section you newfags

>>55206816
LMAO what a fucking loser.

>>55206816
>alone and unaided
I fucking hate Draigo faggotry. Why didn't they tone it down?

Since the brothers of the silver nutters are out in force today, how's about helping trim the list?

HQ
>lord kaldor draigo [240]
>dreadknight grand Master: greatsword, psycannon [255]
ELITES
>Paladins: falchions (4) [220]
>Paladins: falchions (4) [220]
>brotherhood Ancient: falchion [132]
>apothecary: nemesis hammer [100]
>doomglaive Dreadnought: psycannon, storm bolter [168]
TROOPS
>strike squad: falchions (10) [210]
>strike squad: falchions (6) [126]
>strike squad: falchions (6) [126]
TRANSPORTS
>razorback: assault Cannon [100]
>razorback: assault Cannon [100]

Everyone says to take the razorbacks in that, but I feel like I've already got good Dakka with all the storm bolters running around. Would dropping them in favor of more PAGKs (interceptors or filling out strike squad and giving one paladin squad hammers be better? I'd have to footslog the apothecary, but he can teleport up turn two once he's needed

>>55206798
That's mostly 30K stuff right?

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>>55206770

>>55206857

>taking anything other than Draigo

What part of "alone and unaided" don't you understand?

>>55206816
>you will never carve "GERONITAN" into a primarch's nurgly heart while his bodyguard watch

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>>55206831
>Doesn't provide any evidence
>"J-Just look it up anon, it's there I s-swear!"
LMAO
M
A
O

>>55206866
No. All 40K.

>>55206828
>Competitive Units
>Every list being the same at top tier even being mildly interesting

>>55206707
>was matched kill for kill by Azrael in that battle who went on to execute a greater demon that the grey knights couldn't

Truly he is a scion of the First

>>55206844
He used Mortarion true name, that shit fuck daemons up really hard.

>>55206875
Huh. I need to do more reading on units I don't use then.

>>55206162
>"Why does this say you have 21 gene-seeds?"

>>55206752
Phosphex can burn throught terminator armor and is used in HH, Phorphor weapons are poor mans Phosphex used by ad mech(because they lost Phosphex, phosphex relic in skitari dex was AP2)

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>>55206700

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>>55206871
I demand someone write me up a Movie Marine tier statline for Draigo so that I might beset the Daemons of the Warp alone and unaided as a true Kaldor Draigo might!

>>55206899

>Azrael
>not secretly Chaos

>>55206637

If you are playing competitive 1ks I got bad new for you...

>>55206831
>refers to a 7e book
Hahahahahahaha, those rules don't translate into 8th. Plus it's not fluff, so there is no reason to transfer it!

Look, unless it is in some fluffy book that GW releases it is not cannon. For example, there are countless books where the Necron croissants can stop on a dime, flip 129,600 degrees, all while the open-topped driver flips the bird to everybody.

Let me know when your fluff is actually cannon.

>tl;dr: By rules alone, 7e =/= 8e

>>55206905
It's more that he was able to walk through deathshroud as if they weren't even there.

>>55206919
>Kassen and Noble Flame

>The Noble Flame is an exceptional combat craft, blessed with one of the most advanced AI suites in the Tau Empire. Always inclined to trust his own instincts rather than the programming of his AI, however, Kassen has somewhat of a strained relationship with the craft's artificial sentience. Even though he regularly overrides the targeting protocols or frostily ignoring its strategic advice, Noble Flame's AI still works tirelessly to keep its master alive, something that paid dividends during the terrifying war on Blackfathom. When they do work in harmony, Karrsen and Noble Flame are an unstoppable pairing that the Scythes of Hamanekh have been unable to defeat in aerial combat. Of course, Kassen hasn't face all three at once.

>>55206927
>40k
>in anyway capable of supporting competitive play

FFS, they struggle with movement in 3 dimensions

>>55206233
Yes, more tau needs to be choked, good.

>>55206831
>Look it up on the death from the skies expansion fluff section you newfags
Are you just banking on people not having that shitty book?

Page reference because I don't see it saying anything like what you're claiming.

>>55206922
>Azrael
>not BTFOing Chaos wherever he goes

Typhus couldn't stand before him either

>>55206950

>Wahh everyone is beating my sorry ass so I have to shit on the game!

>>55206930
Stormcloud books don't feature just rules. They have ministorieds and fluff.

Necrons and Tau have a aerial fight over an ocean world. see >>55206947

>>55206621
I know this is bait but how can they outperform Necrons. Necron fleets are nearly indestructible man, and their pilots give 0 fucks about the g's they pull unlike Tau Pilots.

A Necron can fly circles around a Tau, if the Tau tried half the shit Warscythe pilots did they'd just die.

This is coming from a guy who plays Tau and Admech so I'm bias towards Tau if anything.

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>>55206121

>>55206779
Chapter?

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>>55206831
Sweet sweet summer child.

>>55206938
>Titan sword=normal power sword
He was wielding the equivalent to a paragon blade, that shit opens terminator armour as if it was made of thin cans

>>55206981

>Primaris Exalted Sorcerer

this is heresy

>it's a "carnac remembers he used to like tau" episode
Huh.

>>55206973
Nah, man 40k is a shit game. It's a game for hobbyist and casuals.

>>55206973
>Implying competitive isn't just who goes first
I'm not that anon, but my IG took best over all in a 1250. There are some serious problems right now.

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>>55206978
Wrong. In the battle of Blackfathom, the Tau ace defeated the Chosen aces of the Sautekh Overlord. In the next battle, the Necron aces had to combine their efforts to match the Tau ace.

In the battle, the Tau pilots scored a big tally of Necron aircraft kills.

>>55206989

Howling Griffons, from the bix nood part of their homeworld

>>55206997
Shhhhh

Don't wake up Daddy

>>55206938
If it was some super awesome Emperor's Champion, you wouldn't be complaining, you'd be masturbating on how awesome BTs are.
The lot in these threads will shit on some armies no matter what, and will dickride others no matter how egregious.

>>55207002
>it's I am too poorfag to afford to pay 40K mini-games

Justify why you didn't buy Stormcloud assault boxes.

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>go to lgs tourney
>first guy I play is a super nice guy known for having a lot of very nicely painted models and being cool to everyone
>he's playing ynnari Eldar and I'm playing guard with lots of artillery and scions
>we have a good close game but he really starts to wipe the floor with me midway through when he starts breaking through my lines
>almost tabled I ask him about a couple units and he offers to show me his list
>"yup here it all is, 1998 pts"
>mfw I have to tell him the tourney was supposed to be 1500 pts
we both agree the game is too fucked to salvage and we'd both probably get no points since the manager is like that, so we both agree to make it a tie game
guard is so strong this edition it can hold its own against 500 extra points of Eldar

>>55206831
Checked, it doesn't say shit about that.

Let's all ignore the Tauwank now. This bait has gotten out of hand.

>>55206947
>Posts long excerpt of obscure fluff
>It says nothing like he says it says
>Claims victory anyway
So Carnac is a Tau fan as well I take it?

>Morty vs Magnus
>Somewhat slower, less attacks and less reliable psychic powers
>actual shooting attack vs Gaze of Magnus
>weapons ???
>-1T aura and bonus mortal wounds around him
>FNP
>probably similar reroll aura?
>probably around 475 points, so 50-60 points more costly

Although DG Strategems, Psychic Powers and Warlord Trait should give him an edge.

So, how excited are you to fight Morty+Magni teams?

>>55207046
>Justify why you didn't buy Stormcloud assault boxes.
Already got the models. In multiples.

>>55206578
But they dont have the legion keyword meaning the army doesnt have a legion trait.

>>55206989
Howling Griffons

>>55207068
"When they do work in harmony, Karrsen and Noble Flame are an unstoppable pairing that the Scythes of Hamanekh have been unable to defeat in aerial combat. Of course, Kassen hasn't face all three at once".

I said that the Tau pilot defeated the Necron aces. And here it is. It's not my fault that you can't read.

>>55207085
Correct.

>>55207002
When will people learn to just ignore him?

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Archmagos Triedes will take on the Primarchs with his own little blasphemous horde, they'll do for charge defence now I've finished mucking about with the details on them. What do you think, anons?

Do need to get some more primer, though. I hear Rustoleum is good?

>>55207092
So how does that equate to the Tau having better technology than Necrons?

>>55207099
Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.

>>55207092
>Named character kills enemy champion in story
wow I'm impressed.

>>55207092
>Claims Tau tech is superior to Necron tech and its canon
>Posts some obscure fluff about a Tau ace who explicitly ignores his tech a lot defeating a few Necron flyers on one planet
It's Carnac alright.

>>55207126
That's another anon. I AM JUST POSTING THE STUFF HE WAS REFERRING TO. So that you guys can see for yourselves.

The Tau generally have lower technology than Necrons but when it comes to AI it seems that the Tau surpassed the Necrons.

>>55207128
>let's reason with shitposters and defeat them with good fair debate
Good luck with that, friendly reminder shitposters aren't people

>>55206916
Okay, so like I said, akin to the template, and has the ignore cover rule.
It's the closest thing in the current book set that we can equate to.
Strength might be the same and the AP will probably go up.

>>55207107
Well done, fellow magos.

>>55207134
The Tau pilots in the battle of Blackfathom in general scored more kills on the Necrons than the other way around.

>>55207136
>>Claims Tau tech is superior to Necron tech and its canon

I did not.

>a Tau ace who explicitly ignores his tech a lot defeating a few Necron flyers on one planet

"When they do work in harmony, Karrsen and Noble Flame are an unstoppable pairing that the Scythes of Hamanekh have been unable to defeat in aerial combat"

Again I will copypasta. When the pilot and AI work together they are too much for the Necron aces.

>>55207107
What are you running them as, anon?

>>55207107
Not bad, how do you plan to do the skin color?

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So have any otger Guardbros used Vendetta?
After my last game, they've become my favourite gard unit.

>Cast Nurgle power on Morty
>4++/5+++/5+++
>DG power to -1 to be hit
>Strategems and Warlord Traits will probably make him even more tanky

Disgustingly Resilient indeed.

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>>55207194
>I did not.
You're such a bad liar, are you under the impression that we can't read? See >>55206621 and >>55206571.

Now do shoo, the big boys are talking.

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>>55206274

>>55207156
Well, I mean no. The quote states that a singular ace working with his A.I can beat necrons. It could even be interpereted as saying that A.I is pretty bad.

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>>55206621
>>55206571
>>55207194

>>55207194
>Carnac "logic"
Cato Sicarus killed a C'tan Shard by himself. Obviously the Ultramarines outtech the Necron too.

>>55207085
>But they dont have the legion keyword meaning the army doesnt have a legion trait.
Oh no!, My cultists don't have ignore cover or re-roll to wound against buildings!

I could swap one of the Nurgle princes for an Iron warriors prince with Fleshmetal but its not really worth it. 3+/5++/5+++ is better than 2+/5++

Farsight conference with Guilliman resulting in Farsight Enclave's inclusion into the 500 worlds and Farsight's Tau fighting for the God Emperor when?

>>55207229
Not impressed. They have to stay stationary to get a decent chance to hit. Would rather use vultures, avengers or thunderbolts.

>>55207229
I've played a couple times with my vendetta and it hasn't impressed me, despite everyone screaming "BUT IT SHOOTS SIX LASCANON SHOTS!!!!"
First time I played cloak and shadow it was hitting on 6s with its lascanons which was shit
Second time it just didn't really do much and I finally dropped it into hover and did like 5 wounds to a tank before getting murdered
It NEEDS straifing run bad, and being able to take cluster bombs would be nice too so that it can add on a bit more damage especially against infantry
Imiss it being twin linked and 3 shots hitting on 4s

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>The enemy Chaos player runs his Kharn/Beserkers directly into a Guard unit being defended by a Cyclops Demolition Vehicle.

The salt that results is the best thing ever.

God i hate my enemys turn its like riping of a bandaid slow as fuck

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>>55207299
>Traitor betrays the Tau'va even more

Would not surprise me.

>>55207299

That bloody sword is still a massive plot hook

>>55206315
He took the D to the face

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>>55207299
>Implyiong that Farsight will not became champion of chaos

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>>55206831
Are we reading the same book, because all I find is pic related and all I read is the same shit as in every other fluff section in every other rulebook.
"This army is the best because they are good at [insert whatever facion is good at fluffwise]"

Also, look at thatr highlighted section, they aren't unbeatable. Even more ironic is that that sentence is the only one where they use the word technology

>>55207336

Chess timer.

>>55207372
What?

>>55207341
I dunno, I don't see people lining up for more ethereals or an ethereal faction.

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Look at Tallyman's cute little helper.

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>>55207303
Yeah I agree, I own a thunderbolt, vendetta, and vulture which I have played 5 games with each or with a combination of two, vendetta is definitely the retarded step child of the group, the other two do much better, Tbolt for anti tank and Vulture for BRRRT meme and bombs

>>55207380
Use a chess timer like 20 mins for both of you to act, makes things quicker. However note time on your turn v his may be closer than you think, try timing a few turns and see how long yours are vs his

>>55207380
>
It's like a pair of clocks. One for each player. Only one runs at a time. When it's time for your opponent to do something you hit the button on top - your clock pauses and his starts running.

>>55207287
No, they tech magic plot armour, tau have hard and we'll earned victories with conventional sciences

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>>55206121
My command squad, back when I painted with $2 per pot Walmart paints.

>>55207380
Use a chess timer so your opponent feels obliged to finish their turn quickly.

>>55207245
Wrong.

>>55207280
Necron pilots also work with their AIs and draw upon thousands of years of data. That's bad logic.

>>55207287
Wrong. That's not a similar situation. It was a Necron elite pilot vs a Tau elite pilot. The Tau pilot won. When on to defeat two other Necron elites.

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>>55207320

>>55207398
I actually played a game with one of these, the other guy actually started freaking out because he couldn't handle the pressure

>>55207389
>What is T'au Empire?

>>55207156
>but when it comes to AI it seems that the Tau surpassed the Necrons
I can agree to that statement. Necrons don't have ANY AI.

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>>55206121

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>>55207420
Forgot my picture.

I am gonna post the lore from the book for funsies.

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>>55207420
Just fucking ignore him you spergs

>>55207444
I disagree with tour statement. Cenoptek machines are AI.

The Tomb complex computers that run Tomb Worlds are AIs. In fact, one of them rebelled and called itself the Sarkoni Emperor. Now shut up for a bit while I type the fluff about the Necrons vs Tau.

>>55207446
Those are pretty boss m8!

>My Deathwing will soon be running with the Lion, shitting on Guilliman chads

Cant wait

>>55207434
>the other guy actually started freaking out because he couldn't handle the pressure
I fucking love that.

A good friend of mine is a very competitive 40K and blood bowl player.

Off the clock he'd usually just beat me at blood bowl. On the clock he'd go completely to pieces when the 30second beeps sound.

>>55207464
>>55207128

Can I play against AI in table top simulator? I want to learn how to play the game but I just got a SC tyranid box which I am very slowly painting

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>>55207420
>Begins Tau-wank in his usual autistic style
>Immediately BTFO
>"I d-didn't post that, i-it was some other anon."
Point at Carnac. Point and laugh.

>>55207356
>air caste is big part of tau armies
sure doesnt look it on the table

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>>55207444
>necrons don't have AI
>literally a race of machine men with cybernetic minds
Nigger what?

>>55207420
>That's bad logic.
He says, without addressing my point. The quote explicitly says that the Tau ace has to override the A.I's descisions. This could very easily, without no "bad logic", be intepreted as the Tau A.I being quite bad.

And I repeat, your quote does not prove that Tau A.I is better, nor that Tau aircraft are better. Just that the Tau have a single incredibly skilled Ace, that ignores his A.I.

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>>55206121

>>55206779
>need to finish his head,
Are you trying to make him Seal Black, or American Black? Because right now he's darker than Seal, which is goddamn heretical in and of itself.

>>55207486
>Can I play against AI in table top simulator?
No.

God i hate loseing! Fucking overwatch and leaving close combat

>>55206947
You do realize that they just say he and his plane AI are an unstopable team because they decided to make him a character right? and that they do this for every character they want to make out to be a badass?

What you're doing is equivalent to saying that since Khaldor Draigo managed to win a 1v1 versus a daemon primarch every grey knight is able to do this and therefore it's just a matter of time before chaos is defeated once and for all

>>55207486
No, but that would be hella cool.

>>55206273
A daemon primarch using a freakin pistol = Lame.

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>>55207425
He brought it on himself.

Just ignore the fact that there were 8 Cyclops's in the match.

>>55207486
Thats not how tts works. The program doesnt actually know therules of the game, it just gives you a table and the miniatures. It relies on the two players to knowhow to use them

>>55206019
Is Konor actually rigged? I've been looking around and can't see any proof.

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>>55207191
Thanks, anon. They're my first real unique unit, the rest of my Admech is just a bogstandard WarConvo with an extra SC + few other bits. I have parts for a custom Cawl on the way too, going to be fun even if I'm rather too busy for the next year to have much hobby time.

>>55207203

Big block of 20 Fulgurites, 320pts of anti-melee stuff to stand around my firebases. Ideally they won't take many charges because of the Vanguard, but either way they've stopped the Raptor/Terminator/Entire GSC army/etc. deepstrike rape I tend to receive. One decent melee unit or Levi dread hits the line and I'll lose most of my army, but not anymore.

Hopefully they get a mobility buff in the codex with a Strat, although I suspect they may be nerfed to fuck and leave me with wasted effort. Still good fun to make, though.

>>55207226

Since servitors aren't exactly known for healthy complexions they'll be like Duncan's Deldar Wracks minus the very whitest stage. Rakarth Flesh/Reikland Fleshshade for a "bloody stretched skin" look. Will also hopefully make the greenstuff joins look like scar tissue.

Robes green, weapons glowy orange and steel, armour probably the same green and trim bronze.

>>55207531
Shit, thanks anyway.

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>>55207447
We'll save you some time and skip straight to the end.

>>55206779
Woah, an Argentinian Howling Griffon!

>>55207465
As per the definition of AI, you are false.
The pilot's log into past experiences of past pilots, hivemind-ing >not AI
Canoptek Spyders/Wraiths/Scarabs are non-sentient/self aware beings that have a very strict set of rules and parameters >not AI
Computers with specific sets of routines that automate that are non sentient/aware >not AI
One cannot hack a Necron or Necron tech >not an AI

We have had this conversation thousands of times before you were out of diapers, boy, and we have gotten good at it.

>>55207506
turning your kids and yourself into toasters doesn't make you ais

>>55207441
on the path to doom, unlike the enclaves

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>>55206464
let's just remove these malcontents shall we

>>55207544
Thanks, I got it for cheap but hadn't actually got around trying it.

>>55207506
Yeah, embedding an actual person's mind into a machine is obviously worse than having an AI.

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>that fucking Death Guard trailer
Is it me or is GW getting really good at hype trailers? Holy shit that was awesome, imagine if they started doing cinematic trailers in the future!

Can't wait for World Eaters/Khorne Daemonkin.

>Scythes of Hamanekh

>Favoured weapons of their Overlord, the Scythes of Hamanekh are a trio of ancient and deadly Night Scythes. These crafts were forged during the War in Heaven and have been phased out and rebuild dozens of times.

>Always their Overlord had returned them to battle, their datastacks augmented with lessons of their last demise and the pilots' metal bodies decorated with a new flourish of Hamanekh's whimsy. The Overlord likes to boast that while a single scythe is enough to slay any pilot of the lesser races, all three flying as one are death incarnate.

The Necron pilots are used to fighting Eldar, not AI augmented Tau pilots. It's natural that they would lose.

>>55207581
I liked how he called Primarins "nephews".

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>>55207543
>kawaii baby tanks
Nature is so beautiful sometimes
Did you get those off FW or do you have a good contact on a Chinese forge world?

>>55207581
It might be imposing if Mortarion wasn't such a wuss. As it is he'd better start preping his heart for another name.

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>>55206121

>>55207581
GW have good trailers(check Genestealers or Wrath of Magnus).

>>55207580
A.I shouldn't even be usable in WH40k. Why are the Tau invulnerable to chaos all the suddenly? Their machines don't suffer from chaos viruses and why isn't whatever happene to the DaOT humans happening to them?

>>55207573
someone drew this and thought it made sense

>>55206530
Good old Z

>>55207603
Okay, you calling they cute baby tanks makes me want to buy some and paint them pink/with hearts and other cute shit

>>55207604
Wasn't the heart thing retconned?

>mortarion
>wuss
He's fucking grim reaper in space, my nigga. I'm not even a Nurgle fan, but I'm genuinely hyped.

>>55207603
suicide bomber tanks

>>55207513
Where's the wrench bit on that big mek in the middle from?

>>55207508
Wrong. You are being dishonest. It says that normally the pilot overrides and ignores the AI but when he and the Ai work in tandem and harmony the pilots of the Necrons are not match for them. You are a dumbass. please stop.

>>55207536
Karrsen is not special though. And like I said the Tau forces as a whole inflicted big losses on the Necron pilots.

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>>55207320

>>55207636
Based

>>55207637
Clearly cyclopses are meant to be traps in multiple ways

>>55207567
Dude, I will go in what's in the fluff rather than what's in your head.

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>>55207581
They're done by Laura from their video department.

Say thank you.

Wonder how many rules will he have. Two auras, DttFE, Disgustingly Resilient, 4++ save and probably rerolls aura as well. So, six total?

>>55207642
Literally a few posts above you.>>55206816

>Alone and unaided
What a pussy, lel.

>>55207620
Big dollop of This.
Sure, they look down on Admech Superstition (although they seem to lose pretty hard against the cogfuckers when they actually come to blows with them in Mont'ka) but why do they never run into half the reasons they have all that ritual? The only reason they seem so superior is they're magically excused the consequences of their actions, Space Wolf style.

>>55207652
"Harmony" is a completely undefined term and does not have any context. You can not use such a loosely worded sentence to claim that both Tau airforce and Tau A.I is better than the Necron airforce and Necron A.I.

>>55207548
Did you just buy bits or did you have spare heads & weapons around?

Looking forward to see them painted later!

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>>55207670
Thank you Laura

>>55207668
Good. Then you will refer to the fluff and agree with me
>Interpretation =/= cannon
Also remember that 3e necron-fluff is garbage and has been thrown away. Necrons are NOT robots.

>>55207642
He is wuss.
Became Daemon because Typhus tricked him.
Did nothing worth of noting
Regeret siding with Horus
Got beaten by Draigo who write name on hie heart(still cannon)
Tricked by Magnus(Warzone Fenris, Midgardia)
in Dark Imperium Typhus told him that he is worthless

That's sad because he looks cool.

>>55207642
Mortarion isn't well-know for doing anything impactful on the setting. Having a nine-lettered name carved into his heart by a mary sue is about it for him.

>>55207652
>Karrsen is not special though
He's their best ace with one of the most advanced AIs in the empire, dumbass.

>And like I said the Tau forces as a whole inflicted big losses on the Necron pilots.
And the Ultramarines cleansed Damnos of Necrons by themselves, in the air and on the ground. Obviously they out-tech the Necrons.

>>55207320
Topkek, I'm totally gonna run some bomb race cars for my Solar Auxilia, for Zone Mortalis.

>>55207572
>turning your kids and yourself into toasters doesn't make you ais

Do you know what the fuck Canoptekh constructs are?
Literally swarms of billions of self-replicating machines that can deconstruct and reconstruct matter at will.
That's all AI controlled.

>>55207652
>the pilot overrides and ignores the AI but when he and the Ai work in tandem and harmony the pilots of the Necrons are not match for them
Good to see that Tau have levels of plot armour bullshit writing that EVA pilots have in NGE

>>55207545
That was said because imperials won the last planet with 51% victories, but GW said chaos won because suddenly out of the blue regions mattered and they said chaos had won two regions when the reality was one for imperials with a good margin, one undisputed and one barely on chaos hands, so players did get butthurt because of this since their efforts were casually dismissed.

I've got a serious lore question.
There are (almost) no male Howling Banshees, because the spirit of the aspect they follow is decidedly female.
'Kay.
Autarchs can join the shrine to further their Path so long as they can meet the demands of the shrine.
Right.
So does a male Autarch still wear the boob plate? Or do the Banshees have some boobless chest plates laying around somewhere.

>>55207719
>Topkek, I'm totally gonna run some bomb race cars for my Solar Auxilia, for Zone Mortalis.
Sadly they are slightly too big to fit through the smaller doorways.

Sucks man.

>>55207696
I do. Necrons extensively use AI.

>>55207684
You seriously are squieming right now.

>harmony
>definition
>the state of being in agreement or concord.
>the quality of forming a pleasing and consistent whole.
>synonyms: balance, symmetry, congruity, consonance, coordination, blending, correspondence, compatibility

Talking to non-English speakers is annoying

>>55207545
>Is Konor actually rigged?
The two main forces in the event are Ultramarines and Death Guard.

Guess who's getting their codex and models seven days after the campaign ends?

>>55207737
Why the hell do you trust the region scores anyway?

Its all crap. The entire argument that underpins this 'rigged' stuff is based on something we can't verify. We have no clue how accurate the stats are, but apparently the stats said imperium won and Chaos won so it was obviously rigged...

>>55207722
Quantum nanocomputers, in our real life (see: not 40k reasoning), work off of memory and input. It has no input of its own. It is not AI, nor able to be made into an AI construct. The Necrontyr """""""soul""""""" drives and codes the quantum nanocomputers by existing and having a """""memory""""" input on the system.

>>55207767
Objectively false.

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>>55206121

>>55207747
I'm pretty sure the aspect armour is the same no matter what, it's supposed to be made to be close to the patron of the aspect shrine, who was female, Jain Zar fuck spelling

>>55207722
INB4
>can't hack it so it's not AI

>>55207649
It was made from a big choppa and the claw from the plastic mega mek

>>55207785
too late. see >>55207567

>>55207760
Oh fuck, that's a downer.

>>55207685
Bought a box of Tzeench Kairics, and thus have a whole bunch of spare Tzeench parts around I have very little use for. Maybe I'll start those Word Bearers I kinda like the look of and make some themed Gal Vorbak squads someday, or just give them to the local 1kSons player if he wants them.

As for the parts, they're just the spare heads from all my other Admech kits that would work for servitors, plus Torsion Cannons, Arc Claws and Hydraulic Claws from two sets of Kataphron spares as the melee weapons and a few Sicarian weapons for the two Tazerboys and the Wolverine. Can't help but feel the last one is a bit out of place, but I like him.

Bitz box is now pretty much empty of heads and melee weapons/servo arms aside from Transonics and regular Skittle spares, but I think it was worthwhile. I have just enough for glorious Drider Archmagos.

>>55207703
He is wuss.
Became arch traitor because tricked by Erebus.
Did nothing worth of noting.
Regeret betraying emperor
Got beaten by Emperor after begging him to kill hie soul (still cannon)
Tricked by Lorgar (Warrior Lodges, Interex)
In 40,000 Abaddon said him that he was worthless

>>55207784
So male banshees have to crossdress?
that's kinda hot

>>55207781
Jesus, so much stupid in one post.

First - there are no quantum nanocomputers in real life.

Second - the inputs will be sensory. I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.

Third - there is no difference other than the philosophical one of origin between a necrontyr imprint and an AI, they are functionallu identical.

>>55207712
>And the Ultramarines cleansed Damnos of Necrons by themselves

No, they didn't. The C'tan decimated the Necrons and destroyed the Overlord. The Deathwatch then blew up the phase chambers of the Overlord rendering the whole Necron army directionless. It wasn't a clear duel between the tech and skills of two combatants.

>He's their best ace with one of the most advanced AIs in the empire, dumbass.

He is just a great pilot and there are others like him. The AI will be mass produced. He is not a special hero in the same line as Farsight, Shadowsun, Calgar, etc.

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>>55207603
Got them legit.

Another player however just used the old Epic Landraiders with a large base. (I think they were Landraiders.) They're just about the same size.

Are the AoBR terminators the same size/quality as the multi-part kit? How much would/did you pay for a set?

>>55207818
I know, could have been made for the job but denied.

They can open and close doors though, I'm not going to ask how they do that...

>40 points to do average 7 S9 AP-2 Dd3 hits against every unit, max 14.

This absolutely destroys close range MSU armies and is cheap as hell. What the fuck Forgeworld

>>55207827
He is wuss.
Became dead because Fulgrim stabbed him.
Did nothing worth of noting.
Regeret splitting Ultramar.
Got beaten by Angron after calling hie dishonourable (still cannon)
Tricked by Alpharius
In Gathering storm Emperor said he is tool for war

That's sad because he looks cool.

>>55207851
Not as posable and somewhat less detailed due tk the constraints of moulding them in fewer pieces. Also, the shoulder pads aren't separate if you were planning on replacing them or giving them other weapons.

I honestly cant win any fucking games my friend always has some super pro plan because he find list building super fun for some reason. I want to destroy his fucking army what do I bring?

>>55207851

Generally I pay $2 a vanilla terminator max, but thats just me being stingy with my money.

>>55206315
that's actually a cloak

>>55207865
>msu armies weren't already absolute garbage

>>55207905
What does he play?

>>55207524
Neither, thats just the undercoat spray, probably gonna be caucasian.

>>55207835
>Lord's name in vain
I see you are not of patrician taste.

The theorems exist. Proxies have been made and tested. 5 colleges here, in the States, have at least one working in simple tests. The proofs are being drafted.

Non sensory, no. Electron input and neutron count is all that matters. Then it goes into a much more complex latus of inter-particle physics, but that doesn't matter.

Not identical, metaphysically or otherwise. Philosophically speaking, the Necrontyr soul has a repressed sense of self where an AI creates its own existence.

I wouldn't expect a common ruskie to know any of this.

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So I am contemplating the best way to work on this. The inner legs and the cloak will be blocked a bit by the belt and sash thing at the bottom left of the bits sprue. Should I paint the inner legs and inside of the cloak PRIOR to putting the belt on, or should I not worry and just assemble then paint like normal.

>>55207827
Unlike Mortarion Horus was supremely effeective as both a leader:

>Displaying the tactical brilliance that had once dazzled the enemies of the Imperium, Horus outwitted the Emperor’s forces again and again, finally launching a well-orchestrated and audacious attack on Terra and assaulting the Emperor’s Palace itself.

And as a personal combatant:
>When the Emperor breached the armoured doors of the bridge, he finally came face to face with his misguided son. Horus, swollen with the power of Chaos, stood over the dead and broken body of the angelic Primarch Sanguinius.

Whereas Mortarion just gets made in Draigo's bitch with minimal effort.

>In 40,000 Abaddon said him that he was worthless
After he was long dead. He would never have dared to say it to Horus' face, like Typhus did to Mortarion before casually strutting off to do his own thing with no repressions.

Also lel at taking Armless the Harmless' word at anything, even a loser like Mortarion is more threatening. See gigantic plastic model vs. pathetic manlet resin.

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>>55207719
They're SO fun to use.

In the first Konor match with them, ONE did over 500 points in damage to the enemy.

>>55207962
Shut up Carnac

>>55207229

Ooh Vostroyans!

Care to post more pics?

>>55207959
which do you think would be easiest and have the best results? Use that one.

>>55207959
Yes. Prepaint, assemble, wash, repaint, wash, drybrush, varnish

>>55207827
At least Horus killed Emperor, Mortarion just haven't done anything important.
And Typhus said this to Mortarion in his face.

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Is the -1 toughness aura from Mortarion good?

Makes bolters wound MEQs on 3+.

Can't think of too many thresholds. Maybe vehicles vs Plasma.

Guys, when you pit together the Ghostkeel, it says paint the pilot before assembly, but to continue, you seem to have to put her in place. How do I paint the pilot, put her in, build the model then paint the thing without getting paint on the pilot?

>>55207924
Gaurd chaos and orks. But he has these boreing af army its just tue same unit over and over. He basically buys a list when he buys models

>>55207839
>It wasn't a clear duel between the tech and skills of two combatants.
Sicarus killed the C'tan by himself, lol.

>He is just a great pilot and there are others like him. The AI will be mass produced. He is not a special hero in the same line as Farsight, Shadowsun, Calgar, etc.
Citation needed.

>>55207943
>The theorems exist. Proxies have been made and tested.
That's what I said, they don't exist.

>Electron input and neutron count is all that matters
And now you are simply spewing nonsense (again).

>>55207943
>Philosophically speaking, the Necrontyr soul has a repressed sense of self where an AI creates its own existence.
Which had no functional difference and may not even be identifiable as a difference to an observer.

>>55207678
That's less him being a pussy and more Draigo being the biggest sue in the setting, apparently canon again. Fucking Matt Ward bullshit.

>>55207703
>>55207827
>>55207870
Yes, characters who are not mary sues often have flaws and make mistakes. It's called good writing, you start to notice after age 15.

>Morty making a pun about Silence at the end of the video

>>55206334
Was this not retconned with the last update? Not that the old system wasn't way cooler

>>55207905
You'll need a good list and a decent brain.

How about you at least tell us what armies the two of you play? That you didn't think to do that makes me suspect that you are lacking at least one of the ingredients for success.

>>55207975
Carnac would never ever say 'Armless the Harmless' for any unironic reason.

>>55206474
Looks great! Very fluffy.

>>55208028
He also talks about people 'in the mists'.

Typhus was right. Mortarion's perspective is still stuck on Barbarus and his hatred of the Imperium is personal.

>>55207975
I'm literally the guy arguing with Carnac, he sucks Abaddon's shriveled dick and shits on the actually worthy Warmaster, Horus. See his recent Black Legion thread.

>>55208019
Sadly thing about Mortarion is that he haven't done anything worth noting. Even him becaming a daemon prince was Typhon's doing.
Worst of all is that they still don't reconnect Draigo thing with is retarded.

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The definitive list of dropdown badassery

>Draigo
>GM with psycannon/sword
>6 falchion Paladins
>4 hammer Paladins
>10 strike squad
>6 interceptors
>6 interceptors
>doomglaive naught
>ancient
>apothecary
>and balls of steel

>>55208000
Bolters wound GEQs on 2+
Bolters wound T5 on 4+

>>55208007
Paint the model carefully, alternatively leave the hatch open enough to add the pilot after

>>55208010
>He basically buys a list when he buys models
That is the correct way to start an army.

I assume you prefer the other method - buy shit at random until you have enough to put a list together?

>>55206474
Unless you're playing WISHISHYGGDT, go for talons or axe.

Axe is better than talons against vehicles, while talons are better against all except vehicles.