40kg General, Warhammer 40k

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First for the Drew Carey

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2nd for Sisters a QT !

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>>55199516
second for best regiment

>>55199516
That's a spoopy pupper

>>55199541
puppy slays all heretics

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>>55199536
>ejection port above the line of the bore
this annoys me much more than it should

>>55199536
>tfw you'll never purge heretics with cute sisters
Life isn't fair. I wonder whether they sell an erotic sister costumes and inflatable Sororitas in the Imperial adult stores.

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>>55199536
stupid sexy sisters

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I'll be at work for the next 8 hours, tell me my army after my Orks. Be specific, give me something crazy.
>All Howling Banshees
>Carnifex Broods only
No fucking Sisters, or Death Gays.

Trips gets to name the Commander of the new force

>>55199605
Tau drone army

>>55199605
Mechanised Infantry Genestealer Cults

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>>55199605

Orks 2: kans n grots edition

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>>55199604
Sexy, have a rare pepe.

>>55199605
ELdar have some cool models, I'll be collecting them when I finish my Space Wolves.

>>55199605
Screamer focused Tzeentch daemons.

>>55199605
Sisters
fuck you

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>>55199605
Dark Eldar Coven only

Haemonculus D Money

>>55199582
Iornically it would've made more sense if bolters were actually caseless.

>>55199605
Rolling for trips. Call your commander Pepe and they have to have a green Color scheme.

>>55199605
All Kroot Force led by a Single Suit Commander.

>>55199605
Armoured Elysian drops troops
You can only run drop sentinels and tauroses with optional Valkyrie sky talons for transports, also terantulas are allowed but no Infantry outside of hq
Rolling for commander name:
Major Cain Abrams from steel legions (fluff him as a steel legion commander accidentally assigned to drop troops)

Just so I have more input/options to choose from: What are some good names for a bird based Thousand Sons/Tzeentch force?

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>>55199654
Polly
>Polly want a perils?

>>55199516
Dafug is going on in OP´s picture?

>>55199654
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Egypt

>>55199678
doggo destroys npcs

>>55199654
Warband names you could do stuff revolving around their talons and bird features.

Talons of Fate
Whispers of the Claw
Bastards to the Lyre

For individual characters, maybe just bird species?

Gaelos Kingfisher
Ran'tu, Pygmy to Fate
Ibis, Destroyer of Men

>>55199693
>Ibis
Fucking bin chickens.

How autistic would people get if I used count-as <Chapter>? IE saying "I'm using <Minotaurs> as my chapter because Moloc fits best with my OC chapter"

>>55199516
So what happens to gland warriors?
They still exist and when will all guardsmen get replaced by glandies?

>>55199700

Some may act like triggered little autists, but there's nothing in the rules against it.
You can paint your shit bright pink and call them ultramarines if you want.

>>55199582
It's a Brit-made franchise, they're not allowed to even think about guns let alone know how they work.

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>have little to no urge to do any painting or go to LGS
>whenever I go I have a good time and feel productive

This feel is bad.

>>55199724
Why Anon?

R8 my anime OC

>Arturia Pendragon
>Power: 21/385pts M: 10" BS: 2+ WS: 2+ S:7 T: 6 W:6 A: 7 Ld: 10 Sv: 2+
>Weapons:
>Excalibur(Melee): Melee Melee Sx2 AP-4 3D Abilities: -
>Excalibur(Range): 180" Macro 2D6 S20 AP-5 6D Abilities: Can only be used once per game. This weapon automatically hits. When rolling for number of hits, roll three dice and discard the lowest
>Invisible Air: 12" Assault D6 S8 AP-2 2D Abilities: -
>Abilities:
>Avalon: Arturia has 3+ invulnerable save. At the start of each turn, regain D3 wounds.
>Magic Resistance: When targeted by psychic power cast by enemy psyker, roll a D6. On a 3+ that power is denied.
>King of Knights: Nearby Imperuim units can reroll to hit and to wounds rolls of 1.
>Instinct: Once per phase, Arturia can reroll a single die for charge, save, number of shoots, hit, wound and magic resistance roll

>>55199724
Depression is a curse, Anon.

>>55199736

Looks like a solid reason to kill yourself.

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>>55199736
>A7
>2d6 S20 attack
Didn't read past that, op af

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>>55199736
Seems perfectly fine. Maybe even shave the points down some. I'm thinking maybe 250.

>>55199736
>Can wipe out a knight in one shot almost every time
>Borderline wiping a titan in one shot
>385pts

Actually retarded

>>55199736

looks like a good reason to take 3 vindicares

>>55199766
>not please "please be patient, I have orktism"
Missed opportunity

>>55199782

Those units suck balls.
Ratlings are way better.

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>>55199736
>25pts more than Robute
>Is better than Magnus
>2d6 S20 180" Attack

How many levels of irony are you on man?

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>>55199784
Saved it from here. Never thought of that. Now it bothers me. Feels bad.

>>55199516
man the trailer really hype me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xetQqbkCbS4
which house gang would you join?

>>55199808
Just take 18 Elysian sniper teams, that's 54 sniper shots a turn for less the character

>>55199809
>25
35, my friend
>better than Magnus
She can only wreck a single superheavy per game though. :^)

>>55199724
>working all Saturday
>afraid no ones going to be there if I go in today
>don't go in
>tfw no campaign games
Time to shitpost on /tg/ I guess, or maybe even finish painting something.

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>>55199830
>A7
>S14 Ap-4 D3
>WS2+
>3++
What?

>>55199776
No, let me correct this
An average roll will kill a warhound instantly

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What chapter is this guy from?

>>55199736
Go with time grandpa, Nero is the new hip girl.

>>55199841
>add +2 Str and r1 to invu and you get Magnus

This is the game you are playing now, anon.

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>>55199817
Pit slaves all the way my dude.

That or Cawdor.

How much of GWs line is in finecast, metal or just really old sculpts?

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>>55199762
10/10

>>55199867
So one superheavy does for free and then anything that isn't a superheavy is also raped, fuck outta here, I'll post my home brew and show you how it's fucking done, I translated the entire GDI arsenal from Cnc 3 to 8th when I was bored and it looks a lot less aids than that shit

>>55199861
Can anyone read binary?

What's the Tech Dude say?

>>55199861
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Consecrators

>>55199899
You can't read binary
It's just going to translate into actual numbers

>>55199722
HAND OVAH DAT ASSOLT SPEWN MAIT
OR YA TAY VAY LOISENCE WILL BAY REVOKED

>>55199700
Making your own chapter and then assigning it rules etc based on what chapter it's closest to is one of the foundations of the hobby, and has been for decades.

If anyone rages at you, they are clearly retarded

>>55199817
The one where it's a mini game again not a grid based board game.

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>>55199699
>hating the ibis when thoth is a thing
>>55199693
Oh wow, thanks. I must have been overthinking this a ton, my mind was skipping over things like that for some reason.

>>55199914
People this stupid shouldn't be allowed internet.

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Rate my 2K Chaos space marine list.

Spearhead detachment - Chaos

>HQ
Warp Smith
Iron warrior, Warlord - Cold and Bitter, Flesh metal exoskeleton, Combi Melta

>Troops
Cultists
26x Cultists, 1x cultist champion, Iron warriors

Cultists
26x Cultists, 1x cultist champion, Iron warriors

>Heavy Support
Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Defiler
Nurgle, Iron warriors, Twin Heavy Bolter, Defiler Scourge

Basilisks
3x Basilisk w/ Heavy Bolter

Basilisks
3x Basilisk w/ Heavy Bolter


Supreme command - Chaos

>HQ
Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

Daemon prince
Nurgle, Sword, warp bolter

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Check it

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>>55199931
use new minis with old rules

>>55199938
>not realising that 4chan is a containment site for all autists
He's exactly where he's meant to be, as are you

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I want to spend £150 on stuff next Saturday.

Gonna spend £85 on Mortarion. Will also buy codex and so on.

If you were to pick though, would you get the Death Guard datacards or the Death Guard dice?

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>>55199817
'Gangs'? I AM THE LAW!

>>55199736
>fateshit

Kys

>>55199940
Lazy fucking daemon princes/10

>>55199949
Why would you need the dice at all
the datacards are actually fucking useful

>>55199817
escher

Parries for days. 2nd edition's melee combat was my favorite.

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>>55199949
Data cards, dice are useless while cards are actually used in game, how is this even a choice?

>>55199964
I'll take jumping ship from 30k for 10pts Alex.

>>55199736

Speaking of legit custom characters, I tried to make one for a campaign i'm going to be in come a few weeks time. I run a fast SM chapter with a shitload of jump packs and psykers/melee units, and nothing really catered to that for me. I don't want to make it too OP, and we're limited to making them worth 200pts. Does this fit the bill?

Chapter Master Valeri

M 12"/BS: 3+/WS: 2+/S4/T4/W5/A5/LD10/2+/4++

Weapons/Equipment:

- Aetherius (Master-Crafted Power Sword): S+2/AP-3/D 1D3 - Abilities: Every time this weapon rolls a 6 to wound, Aetherius automatically causes an additional 1D3 Mortal Wounds.
- Storm Bolter
- Jump Pack
- Frag/Krak Grenades
- Iron Halo

Abilties:

- Fury from the Sky: All [Chapter] units within 6" of Valeri can re-roll charge distances.

- Master of the Blades: If [Chapter] units within 6" of Valeri successfully charge, add +1 to their attacks value for that turn. Additionally, all [Chapter] units re-roll hits and wounds in the fight phase for that turn.

- Masters of the Aether: All [Chapter] Librarians within 12" of Valeri add +1 to their attempts to cast [Librarius] psyker powers.

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>>55199953
>playing lawmakers exclusively
>not using the outlaw rules, saving them for special occasions as an almost NPC third party

>>55199862
>Nero
you mean Astolfo?

>>55199899
He says
"YÚ´Ý®·W^ÕéIêWBD%%*R¥ÜtI$´¨«5"

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>>55199808

yeah but they a cool lookin dudes

>>55199976
Too many aura buffs
What chapter tactics?
Use BT and remove the reroll charges buff, also he should have a pistol of some sort

>>55199976
The only unit that hands out more buffs than this is Guilliman

>>55199974
Still pathetic

>>55199605
The only true answer is Nurgle renegade and Heretecs, lost and the damned lead by Commander Fartsenheimer and his cadre of Maelific Asslords. They have a bitterness toward the Deathguard for denying the great wind of Nurgle. Their flatulent hell hounds will not aid the bloated Deathguard.

>>55199994

Salamanders chapter tactics to represent Librarians helping their lessers pick their shots/aim etc. Think a shitty version of prescience.

The idea was to have him be an aura character that can hold up in melee sort of well, but not excellently.

>>55200010
He should hand out 2 buffs as someone said earlier, also a bolt/plasma pistol is basically mandatory on him

>>55200002

Which should be taken away? Again, i'm not sure how to balance the guy, figured some feedback would do me good.

>>55200020
DESU the Psyker one feels a little out of place with the rest of his kit

>>55199724

I feel you. I haven't done a damn thing all week except glue a torso to some legs, and drill a single magnet hole... I haven't even played in 3 weeks because depression is a bitch. I'm going to try and go today, but idk.

>>55200028

I should probably explain. I usually run a Captain and 2 Librarians, if not 3.

>>55199985
I was always curious what painting minis with wall paint would look like

>>55200010
>can hand out 1d3 mortal wounds on wound rolls of 6
>"can hold up in melee sort of well, but not excellently."
>"but not excellently."
This is why no one fucking likes homebrew fags.

>>55200041
Reroll charges feels least imaginative one due to it being Bt tactic, psyker one feels out of place and the +1 a seems ok

>>55199940
How on earth do you have Basilisks in your Chaos list?

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>>55199604
sweet mother of mercy

>>55200044

Like I said - i'm not sure what is balanced and what isn't. Hence the asking for feedback and advice. What would you remove or change? Bearing in mind that he needs to be worth roughly 200pts.

So far i've got:

>>55200019
>>55200002
Remove a buff

>>55199994
>>55200019
Remove Storm Bolter, add Pistol (Plasma probably)

>>55200044
Cause less damage on the sword? He doesn't give anyone else mortal wounds - only his own attacks do that on a 6+ to wound.

>>55200066
Make mortal wounds just a flat 1 on a 6 and get rid of a buff, give him pistol but let him keep stormbolter if you want

>>55200053
Renegades and Heretics (Imperial Armour - Index Imperial Guard) gives the Chaos keyword to various guard units, including Basilisks.

>>55200066
For starters, causing d3 mortal wounds IN ADDITION TO normal damage is fucking absurd. There are only 2 other SM characters I know of that have a similar rule. Cato Sicarius causes d3 mortal wounds INSTEAD OF the normal damage as a replacement of his old instant death gimmick. Azrael does 1 mortal wound (not fucking d3) in addition to normal damage because no one ever fucking took him for anything other than buff faggotry. You literally have no understanding of what the standard in 8e looks like and you want to create special snowflake homebrews. Please quit this game and go back to playing minecraft.

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>>55199605
All Kroot T'au Empire

>>55200089
>For starters, causing d3 mortal wounds IN ADDITION TO normal damage is fucking absurd.
bruh every rail weapon and some ion weapons tau have does it, even a rail rifle which is 22 points and on a W1 T3 guy can do a mortal wound on a 6 on top, calm down it's not that op

>>55199605
Dark angels ravenwing but you only get to field flyers and speeders.

>>55200089

Fuck, calm down m8

>>55200097
Do rail weapons fire 5 times though. It's one thing to do a single single shot and have a chance to do mortal wounds, it's another to do 5 attacks and have a chance for every one of them to do mortal wounds.

>>55200097
Good thing that we're talking about Space Marines, not Tau. And comparing close combat weapons to ranged 1/2 shot weapons is retarded.

How long wouls it take a Battle Barge to overload the void shields of a city?

>>55200112
It's not another thing
Y'vahra Ionic discharge cannon
Heavy 3d3 S10 Ap-3 Dd6 on a 6 do a mortal wound on top
that's up to 9 shots that fuck anything up

>>55200097

Rail rifle is different but, it only fires once. Fair point though

>>55200112
>>55200113

Okay, so just change to do mortal wounds instead of regular wounds, not on top of. Cool. I'm pretty much set then.

Remove re-roll charge buff, remove storm bolter, change damage wording, add plasma pistol. Thanks guys.

>>55200113
add on this?
"this effect can only trigger once per activation in combat"?

>>55200127
As long as the plot demands.

That's the best answer you're going to get.

>>55200136
nooo don't change it to mortal wounds instead of regular wounds, just make it cap at once per activation, so you attack however many times you can in once activation and can only get 1 mortal wound proc

>>55200130
Oh yeah a fucking forgeworld lord of war is totally comparable to a 200 point space marine character.

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Any fellow Knights around ? I'm wondering if they will add any new options in the Mechnicum codex but I don't have my hopes up since GW won't release anything without releasing bits first.

>>55200146
>low
outta here, it's only fast attack

>>55200145

Yeah okay, that works better.

>>55200158
I doubt the Mechanicum knights will be much other than maybe a rename and some different special rules.

>>55200163
And it's also only 400 points amirite? Also you conveniently left out how the model has to take 1 mortal wound in order to activate 3d3 shots mode. Fucking taufags at it again.

>>55200086
If you mix them in your lose your chaos marines faction and can't use legion tactics or warlord traits.

>>55199640
They were once. The empty shells flying everywhere in the art was written off as artistic license. Somewhere that changed over the years and now Bolts have casings.

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>>55200158
>That sweet ass gatling gun
>Comes with a Chainblade bayonet
Jesus anon you're making me all hot and bothered.

>>55200163
>>55200179
Oh yeah, and did I mention the mortal wounds only kick in if the enemy target is a VEHICLE? Taufags really are the most tryhard faggots on this board.

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>I still can't believe they weren't wearing helmets

>>55200158
they may bring back the different ranks of knight or other non-modeled upgrades and abilities.

>>55200207
>ai roasts imperium once again
like pottery

>>55200066
Honestly, open up the Space Marine Codex, and look at what costs a similar amount of points. Build your dude like those special snowflakes.

>>55199605
Eldar Wraith Host

>>55200181
No I just lose the iron warriors trait, I still get the warlord trait.

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>>55199985

>>55200228
How? That requires you to be iron warriors.

>>55199899
Write it down and put it in a translator.
Note it is reversed.

>>55200220
that's exactly the best way to make homebrews, use other balanced factions to do homebrews, geq, lreq, veq, meq and req are good base units

>>55200254
You can still give his warlord the Iron Warrior keyword even if there are non-IW units in the detachment.

>>55200248
>when your prime minister is literally the bastard child of a renowned communist and the wife's son of one of your previous prime ministers
>when your immigration minister is a somalian
>when your energy management minister's degree is in "peace sciences"
etc etc
Fuck canda

>>55199605

Full electropriest army

If the new dex has some kind of transport they should be fun

>>55200293
>>55200248
Friendly reminder to report and hide /pol/, enjoy your night anons

I think I'm going to buy a stormsurge but the model is ugly as sin so it had me thinking, would you consider it modeling for advantage if I mounted the weapons on a beefed up hammerhead and made it a count as?

>>55200301
>friendly bants between countries is now /po/

calm your autism, the dreadnought looks like a Canadian flag

>>55200301
>you can't post memes that i don't like, that's wrongthink
Bolter and Chainsword sounds like the safe space for you.

>>55200309
>stormsurge

http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=24548&start=30

>>55200258
Its just gibberish.

YÚ´Ý®·Wojôä±tRu+Å!EJË$%%*R¥ÜjJ$I,f

>>55200254
I am an iron warrior, I just don't get the iron warrior detachment trait as its not a Chaos space marine detachment.

>>55200327
>01001101 01100101 01100001 01110100 01100010 01100001 01100111 01110011 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01110101 01101110 01100100 01100101 01110010 01110011 01110100 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01001100 01101001 01101110 01100111 01110101 01100001 00101101 01110100 01100101 01100011 01101000 01101110 01101001 01110011

>>55200066
Drop the psyker aura and one of either the +1A or charge aura and change the sword to 1 additional mortal wound on a 6 and you're basically in line with most of the better Forgeworld marine special characters.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for your chapter master to be buffing your librarians unless he's a psyker himself. Leave that to your Chief Librarian.

had three games of the new 8th ed and it's better than 7th but it's a bit hollow

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>change all these character upgrades into their own units
>still the same amount of slots
GW should've created a new unit category beside flyers, like command support or something and put all the ancient, champions and characters other armies will have and let you take them there. My Deathwing is really strapped for the slots already and now I have to use them up for my champion and stuff.

>>55200420
>Ok so thats you commander what does he do?
>Well he lets me re-roll ones. What about yours?
>Oh he lets me re-rolls ones
Dont you feel the excitement Anon?

>>55200460
What did your commanders let you do before that was so exciting ?

>>55200460
>>Ok so thats you commander what does he do?
>Lets me re-roll misses, can move 24", rapes anything in melee and resurrects on a 2+

>>55200457

you can field 18 elite units with just 3 HQs ar 1500+

I struggle to see how you can be "strapped for the slots"

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>>55200489
Go home Celestine. You're OP.

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>>55200489
Dang. The more i read about Sisters of Battle in these threads the more i want to play them.

>>55200512
Not all events allow 3 or even 2 FOCs.

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>>55200551
They don't have the gimmicks to win top level tournaments. But for normal play they're probably one of the strongest armies in the game.

>>55200551

SOB have always been in an odd place of 'Plenty playable, if lacking options'. A lot of armies that don't get much support drop down the rankings hard but SOB are built around Melta and Flamer, two weapons that are pretty consistently good as they basically define 'Anti-tank' and 'Anti-infantry' weapons respectively.

That along with 3 tanks that have somehow, managed to remain consistently good (The Exorcist devoured heavy infantry and monstrous creatures alive, now it does the same to basically everything due to the change to everything using wounds. The Immolator has two heavy flamers and carrying capacity for a special weapons squad. The Repressor is a cheap transport as tough as a Predator tank with very heavy weapons for a dedicated transport in the Heavy Flamer and Storm Bolter) and you've got a force that is rarely top of the line but has never really dropped into unplayable either.

It helps in many ways that they are much more streamlined marines. Marines pay for Str 4 and WS3+ but get very little use out of them a lot of the time. SOB cut out the bits they don't really use and just focus on the shooting side that marines end up having to play to anyway.

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thinking of starting an admec force but want to do something other than the standard red, anyone have any possible paint jobs?

>>55200604
The 7th ed Skitarii and Cult Mech books have a bunch of alternatives to the standard Martian schemes.

Since my previous anime OC had extremely positive reception, lets do another one!

>Sasaki Kojiro
>Power: 10/160pts M: 10" BS: - WS: 2+ S:3 T:3 W:5 A: 7 Ld: 10 Sv: 5+
>Weapons:
>Relic Weeb Longsword: Melee Melee S+3 AP-2 D3D Abilities: Unless targeting Vehicles or Buildings, add +1 to any To Wound roll made by this weapon
>Abilities:
>Eye of the Mind: Sasaki has 4+ invulnerable save.
>Astral Form: You can start battle in Astral Form. At the end of your Movement phase, you can set Sasaki anywhere more than 9" from the enemy.
>Tsubame Gaeshi: When fighting single model, enemy has to roll three dice and pick the lowest when making their save rolls.
>Inner Harmony: Whenever Sasaki takes a wound, roll a D6. On 5+, he doesn't take a wound.

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>>55200604
Agrippina is a dark grey, Metalica is white, Ryza is orange. Grab the Admech books off the mega and search a little on google.

Chaplain Redemptor Dreadnoughts when?

>>55199861

is that Cawl on the left? I'm assuming this is post-Cadia since the grey knight and the eldar aren't trying to cut each others faces off.

>>55200681
>is that Cawl on the left?
No

Do they preview much of the deathguard releases or rules in the new White Dwarf beyond the couple of images that were leaked this week?

>>55200628
Give her a special rule that says that you automatically win the battle if you field her on the tabletop.

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>>55200681
No. Cawl's pretty face is very distinctive.

>>55200650
Are there any Metallica based puns do you reckon?

>>55200681
ITs fan art so who knows

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>>55200604

This is mine, it's an attempt at metalica that ran away a bit. Two tone schemes with an metalic trim never fail.

>>55200696
Not to mention Cawl is a pretty big dude, larger than even a space marine.

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>>55200604
I like this one. A sand-tone combined with some darkgrey-ish metal.

>>55200729
Wow, two of the worst space marine chapters and eldar waifushit in a single pic.

>>55200628
>>55200695

I wish there was actually an in-game system to create your own characters beyond say, taking a Captain and getting some gear from the limited as fuck option selection.

Like, I get it they want to stream line it, but at least give us a system where we can take a HQ and get some additional wargear or abilities beyond a weapon and a relic.

>>55200729
That's the least DE looking DE I've ever seen.

Any novels that feature lives of normal people in a hive city or something like that?

>>55200762

>waaah it's not an emaciated transexual drug addict with a spade shaped jaw

>>55200763
>get up
>eat reconstituted slop or maybe not eat at all
>shuffle to work
>work 20 hours straight in gruelling conditions that make today's Chinese factories look like a vacation
>probbaly sick, injured, or both
>go shuffle home
>sleep for an hour
>get up and do it again
>lucky if don't starve to death or die of space sickness
>lucky if not blown/shot up in hive ganger street war
wouldn't be very interesting.

>>55200763
In the sense of 'brief snippets of normal life so it's more poignant when they get ripped to shreds by daemons/nids/etc', yes.

>>55200787

And they wonder why people fall to chaos..

>>55200789

See >>55200787

So would using 2 Bloat Drones and 6 Plague Drones be a sensible distraction carnifex for Plague Marines?

Run them up, scare the shit out of the enemy, maybe teleport some Terminators in at a similar time and have the Plague Marines stomp up to objectives or behind cover and pelt away with Plasma and Blightlaunchers?

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>>55200748

>>55200866
Do tell me where I told you to stop doing anything.

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>>55200774
No I mean the only reason I have any idea she's DE are the splinter pistols. It's not just her face or whatever. She just doesn't look DE at all.

>>55200158
I want loyalists to get the chaos loadouts with dual avenger and whatnot.

>>55200787
>sleep for an hour
>get up and do it again
Only Space Marines are capable of pulling those sorts of hours for extended periods of time, and even they typically get 4 hours of sleep each night. The normal humans in 40k are exactly that: normal humans. That includes things like sleeping for 6-8 hours a night.

>>55200911
they wouldn't be able to do it for long but it doesn't matter

humans, regardless of what they do, don't live long in a hive unless they live on the upper levels, thus they are not "average"

>>55200877

>DE can ONLY wear stupid-looking Top Knots and have black hair

To add to this.

The armored itself has spikes, its segments are styled like kabalite armour, the armor color too is similar to dark ekdar default scheme, she's got a combat braid going on like a lot of eldar and those vials on her as well all stand out towards Drukhari signifiers.

If you wanted to get nitpicky about it you should have pointed out that her eyes don't look like alien greys like most eldar art.

Alright guys, help me pick a chapter for 8th please.

I'm stuck deciding between Raven Guard and Star Dragons.

>>55200207
So why do the tau send their precious ethereals into battle wearing a t-shirt?

>>55200996
Red Talons.

>>55200729
>Dark Eldar
>teaming up wih Deathwatch
This is wrong on so many levels
Why the fuck would something like this ever happen.

How do I into tempestus scions?

>>55200996
Can you into edge highlighting? If not, don't bother with raven guard.

>>55201035
Plasma in command squads. Volley guns in infantry. Tauroxes for support fire.

>>55201022
Dark Eldar also operate as mercenaries. Some DEldar hate the Comorragh life and prefer to die in glory, swimming in riches and bitches, than being raped to death by a rival archon and his goons.

>>55199604
Seeing her have sex was nowhere near as good as I thought it would be

>>55201054

plasma or melta in command squad

Vanilla 10m infantry if you plan to order them.
double plasma 5m infanty if you don't

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>>55200158
Speaking of Imperial Knights, are pure Knight armies more acceptable this edition now that everything can hurt anything ? Would you people hate somebody who brought only 3 Knights at 1500 to the game or still require a heads up ?

>>55200929

Unless you want 100% mortality rate within a week for the entire hive, 1 hour isn't doable.
Even 4 hours and your planet will be dead in a few years tops.

>>55201076

Well maybe you should do a better job next time.

>>55201100

Not even considering the mortality, the production loss from equipment and goods being fucked up by half-asleep labor would be massive.

>>55201085
Just as pure conscript spam with commisars are cancer, so too are pure knight armies.
Basically, if your entire army is countered by one type of weapon you should give a heads up

>>55201085
>Everything can hurt everything now

Stop this meme
Yes, technically true, but anti-infantry weapons are going to do next to nothing against an all vehicle army

>>55199605

Space Marines all Tacticals no special weapons, just more tacticals

Conscript Spam

Death Guard all zombies (Poxwalkers) + the guy with the bell.

Eldar all flyers

Space Marines Guilliman + flyers

Imperial Guard titans + big tanks

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>>55201121

Conscript spam is countered by 1 weapon, not one type

>>55201085
If someone showed with models looking like that I probably wouldn't mind. If its all primer or gray fuck em.

i'm new to 40k and thinking of starting a Grey Knight army. Any advice or suggestions for a newbie?

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>>55199605

>>55200628
>7A
whats your obsession with 7 attacks?

>>55201121

Knights aren't cancer. They're terrible.
The more you have, the more guaranteed your loss.
They only do anything against elite low model count armies.
Literally any other list stomps them with ease.
They don't even win trades against most numerous melee infantry.

>>55201149

Decide if you want to go full power armor, full paladin or mix it up.

Get a stormraven

>>55200996
Star Dragons, I got a lot of love for those guys and their fluff of just being good dudes to their bro Chapter

>>55201134

Go tell that to conscripts.
Or pretty much any spam army.
Fucking ork boyz win trades against Knights in melee.
They're horrible units.

>>55201171
Yes. Hundreds of mad fuckers hacking at pipes and tubes and shit will fuck stuff up.

That's why you need support units to keep them away.

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>>55201069
That would justify a DEldar working with a Rogue Trader, not fucking Deathwatch.
>>55201076
Reality often disappoints

>>55201196
Perhaps the Rogue Trader was tasked with transporting a Deathwatch Killteam under orders from an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and they were boarded by some other aliens or the Gellar field failed and they had to defend from daemons. The DEldar Merc and Marine fought together because their survival depended on it.

You lack imagination, faggot.

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>>55201169
I'm planning to use a similar scheme as pic related if I go with star dragons.

>>55201051
I don't find it all that hard, just time consuming

>>55201149
Stay away from Purifiers, Librarians, Chaplains, Incinerators, Psycannons and Nemesis Force Swords. Everything else is ok.

>>55201194

>Yes. Hundreds of mad fuckers hacking at pipes and tubes and shit will fuck stuff up.
Not really on a giant rampaging walker.
It never used to work that way in 40k before, but now that 8th came along, you lemmings act like its infallible and that this is how it should have worked all along.

>That's why you need support units to keep them away.
They can just melt them with lasgun fire in a few turns.
Meanwhile, the knight is virtually worthless against them.

Knights used to be a unit that benefited (arguably) the most from blast templates in the entire game in 7th.
Now those are gone, and Knights cost an extra 100 points.
They're not even more durable either, against a lascannon for example, they're virtually identical in durability.

>>55201134
All you need is S5 to regularly wound models with T8 and 3+ isn't such a great save these days.

>>55201207
>b-b-but in my fanfiction

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Rolling for what my first army will be.

Odds = Night Lords
Evens = Sisters of Battle
Dubs = Whichever faction/army a kind anon chooses first

>>55201209
Purifiers are good if delivered in the right way
2 MSU + ancient with relic banner and brother-cap disembarking from a stormraven can royally fuck up anything with 3 1d6 smites

>>55201243
>limited in imagination
>calls anything he can't comprehend fanfiction
Sounds about right a retard would reach for the buzzwords this early.

>>55201234

That would make Tau top tier

except they are clearly not, as they really struggle do deal with heavy armor unless you spam fusion commanders.

>>55201265
On the other hand, with your knack for fluff rape you're probably a shoe in for a Black Library job.

>>55201243
>Everything in imaginary land has very strickt rules! D-don't go having fun!
You need a vacation Anon.

>>55201276
>fluff rape
Just epic

>>55201254
And how many points is that again? Shit's too expensive for what's more or less a one trick pony.

>>55199605
Dark Angels
Commander is called Fagulous Bottomsmash

>>55201085
That new bluish-violet effect they put on guns everywhere now it's retarded. That cannon is not fast firing enough to get ruined like that

>>55201287
FUCK YOU
You're probably right

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What will Mortarion's rules be?

>>55199605
>giant Ika will never mount your tallest skyscraper and fuck it for your viewing pleasure
>she screams SHINRYUAKU with every thrust
>IKA MUSUME KYUN~ as she cums

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>>55201304

yeah but it looks neat

>>55201298

70pt more thank GKPa

which can be worthy, if delivered in the right place.

>>55199976
Dude, just run a biker captain/chapter master with BT tactics and model him with a jump pack. Custom characters either work and are over-powered or don't work and are bland. Even if a generic character works no one can say shit because you didn't make up the rules.

>>55201328
Nah it looks cancerous

>>55201207
Nah, this is retarded. Some DW guy would go rogue and shoot the knife ear in the face, Inquisitor be damned. The most relevant thing the DW have done lately was shoot fucking Eldrad in the face when he was about to summon Ynnead and wipe out Slaanesh. I'm sure regular marinetards would do it again.

>>55201320
>SPECIAL RULE:
>When facing the unrelenting might of the ULTRAMARINES Mortarion must start in the warp and cannot be placed on the table until after the match is decided.

>>55201209
How would I build a Paladin army? Do I use halberds and hammers? Psilencers and incinerators? Are land raiders OK?

>>55201361
with paladins
yes
no
yes

>>55201354
>Inquisitor be damned
Depends on the Inquisitor. If it were one of extreme standing, the DW marine wouldn't do SHIT.

>>55201333
But Paladins are unholy tough to kill (they're the bane of overcharged plasma and autocannons) whereas a bunch of 1W dudes in power armor are not. You're paying a shit ton of points to kill one thing extra hard and die.

>>55201225
Don't use them then.

>>55201162
Or full Dreadknight.

>>55201361
Crusaders are probably he best land raiders, they're the cheapest, fit the most models, and put out a shit ton of dakka, especially if you use the psibolt ammunition sratagem on them

I should leave a double grav-flux leviathan sized hole in all my lists and see if my opponent starts pulling out conacripts at the table
then I can either throw the leviathan on there, or something else that costs the same

What does such a Leviathan set you back by points wise anyway?

>>55201368
So just psilencers?
So could I just play with like draigo, 4x5 paladins with psilencers, hammers and halberds, a dread and a LR? Not sure if it fits 2k but i could take something out in case it doesn't. Or do I just go with less paladins and more raiders/dreadnoughts?

>>55201392
350~

>>55201361
Halberds hammers falchions. That's all you need. Ignore heavy weapons and use Stormravens over Landraiders.

>>55201386
But on the other hand you get high S only with lascannons right? Or do you just melee vehicles to death? or stick to shooty dreads

>>55199516
I still don't get how people get that fat.

>>55201415
sedentary life combined with gross overconsumption of fatty foods and sugary foods

>>55201369
Different anon here.
Man, you've gotta realize how retarded it would be to have Deathwatch team up/not instantly try to kill some dark eldar xeno.
The Deathwatch marines are indoctrinated like CRAZY to hate and kill xeno's on sight, no matter the orders. Also, Marines aren' known for sticking to what Inquisitors tell them to do, even the chamber militants of the Inquisition themselves. The Grey Knights, for example, have had numerous small infightings with inquisitors they disagreed with/deemed too heretical. The Deathwatch would be the same way.

Asking a DW marine not to kill a xeno is like asking a GK not to kill/purge a Daemon because the Inquisitor says "I'ts my friend"

>>55200716
Understatement of the year.

Anyone got a download for the prequel story to the Vaults of Terra novel? It's called VoT: Argent, IIRC.

Thoughts on a 1k sons list to work on? I want to get 1000 points squared away before i head home for xmas and can play with mates. But only have 6 rubrics painted atm. Had an idea for following which came out at like 996 points. Sorry in advance for formatting.

Battalion detachment.
Hq
Ahriman
Terminator sorcerer lord. (unsure of how ill equip him)

Troops
2 x 10 tzaangors w. Blades
10 rubrics w soul reaper cannon.

Elite
5 scarab terminators. One with soul reaper and hellfyre missiles.

Doing this from memory but pretty sure this was 1000 points. Feels like too few models considering how many some armies would take but that seems to be unavoidable with 1k sons

>>55201431
Never mind, turns out a Mega I thought was dead got updated, and it's in there.

>>55201412
Purgation Squads withs psilencers are surprisingly good at killing tanks.
I also have a Dread with lascannon Misslelauncher in my list with astral aim, he does pretty well too.

>>55201403
only that much? Guess I'll get one off my regular chinaman and flip off some spammers

Why don't GW update their line very often? Wouldn't people be more likely to buy...I dunno, Eldar infantry if they were updated every so often, rather than just adding shit on top when a codex is released?

We just had a Chaos codex for example, and not a single unit released or updated. Imagine how many people would buy a better Abbadon or Havocs or something, rather than stapling things like hellturkeys and metal dinosaurs on

>>55200327
Whoah, so this, is High Gothic?

>>55201420
Hell just sedentary life alone can get you fat.

>>55201433
What are your thoughts on the 5 man rubric squads with soulreaper that the CSM dex allows? Two of those plus a squad with 4 flamers seems more interesting.

>>55201469
They only care about marines, Primaris ones specifically

>>55201399
>Psilencers and incinerators?
No
as in no to both, incinerators are okay, but psilencers are hot garbadge. psycannons are okay.

>>55201399
You're probably better off with one ten man blob (Better for strategems + psychic spells), an apothecary and draigo. If you want to do a vanguard detachment, get either another apothecary or a paladin ancient and that should be about 1300 pts or a little under. If your paladin blob, draigo and ancient are deepstriking, you'll need 2 more units to start on the board. Stormravens are probably better and cheaper than land raiders but if you want a raider, go for it. You'll need 2 more. Stick your apothecary in there and go drive around while shooting people up.

>>55201474
True as hell

I'm a lecturer. I spend the last 2 months of every term just sat down marking and over the summer I basically do nothing because reasons and I gain like a stone every summer and then drop it again when work starts again

>>55201433
>pretty sure this was 1000 points

No way that's 1k, you can fit a Predator in.

>>55201076
Could you link me so I can form my own opinion?

>>55201005
Armor interferes with bending the elements.

>>55201475
That does sound interesting. I built my rubrics with inferno bolt guns because i wasn't as sold on warpflamers because rubrics have no melee ability outside of close combat weapons. I'd be curious as to how they'd play tho especially in a rhino or something. Against light infantry they would be excellent. Also rubric sets only come with one sorcerer and soul reaper cannon per 10

>>55201530
Change your diet.

>>55201507
Psilencers got better with the Psychic Onslaught stratagem and even without it functions like better storm bolters. They are not exactly hot garbage.

>>55201370

excep 10 GKPA teleporting in and using the stratagem to turn their fire in HB equivalent can rape anything out of the board with 40 S5 AP-1 shots.

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>>55201328

>>55201469
They got into the habit of pushing Marines on their customers, and now they're afraid to break out of that pattern because it worked for them. Even if it means literally revamping their most complete model range just so they can keep milking it, as it looks like they're starting to do now.

Apart from that, the only stuff that seems to get any real attention from them at the moment seems to be either factions that never had proper tabletop representation (or have gone a very long time without it, e.g. Genestealer Cults), or subfactions that can be expanded enough to make them look new (Thousand Sons, Death Guard if they ever stop stalling with their main model release). Stands to reason that people might be more inclined to collect something like Eldar or generic CSMs if their main infantry kits didn't look so mediocre compared to more modern plastics.

What are the most overpowered units of the 8th edition in yuor opinion? I mean their force relater to their point values.
Similarly, what are the most overpriced ones?

>>55201530
You mean like a gal stone?

>>55201571
Well yeah, my own army list is based off of Psybolt spam. Purifiers are too expensive to really use for psybolt spam, you want Strikes and Interceptors for that.

>>55201578
I'm gonna ignore HQs and just mention that chaos spawn are ridiculous for their price.

On GKPA psylencer outperform all other weapons per point.

Due to the higher base model cost psycannon might close the gap on paladins.

>>55199914
Get off the internet you retard

>>55201535
Punch those numbers in. From memory is like

160 ahriman
160 terminator sorcerer
240 rubrics
140 tzaangors
270 terminator s

>>55201584

I use MSU purifiers in stormravens and full squad GKPAs teleporting in

>>55201522
>I also have a Dread with lascannon Misslelauncher in my list with astral aim, he does pretty well too.
Why do you say a blob is better for psychic powers? Don't you lose one?

>>55201614

Yes

That's why i mix MSU and full squads

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>>55201425
>kill xeno's on sight, no matter the orders

This isn't consistent with the fluff. By nature, Ordo Xenos has to have dealings with xenos on occassion, and the Deathwatch provides protection. If they were a bunch of retarded kill-bots who'd ignore orders and ventilate some Tau representative, triggering a massive border war the Imperium can't afford to fight, they'd be useless as a chamber militant for anything but direct assaults.

There's no mention, that I'm aware of, of Deathwatch receiving additional hypno-indoctrination over what regular astartes do either, regular astartes already hate xenos like it's their job.

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>>55201627
>Duhh...what am I doing here again?

>>55201627
That Inquisitor/Lord Commander/Planetary Governor is flamboyant as fuck. Would treat with.

>>55201565
Spending 1 CP on a what is basically a twin heavy bolter is pretty bad. the gat psilencer is okay wit the stra, but the normal one just isnt

>>55201627
>marines aiming at tau warriors
>tau aiming at human diplomat
Fucking tau, velly dishonourabru.

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>>55201627
>regular astartes already hate xenos like it's their job

>>55201657
>This guy isn't Dante.
>I can smell their blood.
>I wish I was wearing Death Company black armor instead of this one.
>My bolter arm hurts.
>These people don't even have to tackle the red thirst.
>I wish I was back on Baal helping the chapter find a cure for our geneseed.

>>55201657
>oh yeah! There's Xenos here!

>>55201573
Other than the ankles.. I quite like these. Might get some, but I'll either fill them in with putty & sandpaper it or field-mod it (corrugated iron roofing material wrapped round and tied on with razor-wire?).

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>>55201657
Some depictions of the old marine helmets look derpy as fuck. I like the new MkIV style designs, even if MkVI is better.

>>55201425
Deathwatch aren't actually that indoctrinated into their jobs. They're the marines that came across to their host chapters as being people who would do a good job dealing with xenos problems. And a lot of time the cleanest way to deal with a xenos problem isn't to shoot the first one you see in the face. Marines don't even have the imperial cult telling them that every single xenos is working to take down the imperium, they know the truth, namely that while they're looking out for their own and not humanity's best interests, that means that they can be convinced to fight each other, establish mutually beneficial trade, and all sorts of other solutions to their presence that don't require the Imperium to bleed itself dry fighting wars in every sector of space simultaneously.

>>55201672
Its the D3 damage that make the difference man. Combined with the fact that its only 2 points more than a stormbolter, a purgation squad with 4 psilencers is actually pretty damn scary, and cheap to boot.

>>55201627
Those legs, ate SO TINY. How come no one draws the man in the armor first, then go on to draw the armor over top.

>>55201687
Why aren't they asking Gman, he's probably standing right behind them

>>55201687
I, CATO SICARIUS, HAVE SLAIN THIS UNARMED TAU! ANOTHER GLORIOUS VICTORY FOR CATO SICARIUS!

>>55201690
>I wish I was back on Baal helping the chapter find a cure for our geneseed.

No need, Cawl already did.

>>55201614
When I say it is better for psychic spells, I mean you get more bang for your buck when you cast one on the 10 man squad since you can only cast the one spell that is not smite. Consider this. Casting gate on a 10 man squad is going to be more impactful than casting gate on a 5 man squad and leaving the rest to slog their way across. Same goes for hammerhand/sanctuary/astral aim.

>>55201743
So he says :^)

>>55201743
No he has not.

>>55201724
I wonder what that beakie in the front thinks of his primaris brothers...

>>55201735
G-Money was still in stasis at the point

>>55201753
>I wish I was tall like those guys ;__;

>>55201728
dat D3 damage is really something. It really closes the gap with psycannons now and makes it tougher to choose between the two.

>>55200551
Well, you're in luck.
Rumours are saying that the Sisters are getting a full update early next year with a full plastic range.

After eighteen years of this same rumour, it has to be true by now.

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>>55201724
>Remake classic 40k artwork
>half of marines are primaris
WHY?

>>55201789
Because half of the marines are Primaris now.

>>55201789
Because manlets are being replaced and phased out

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>>55199516
why is it always the worst painters at the club that come to give you unsolicited painted advice?
"if you do this and that your troops will look like mine!"
your minis look like shit dude
"you should work on cleaning up some areas"
and you "cleaned" so much that your shades are barely visible anymore
just because you've done this longer doesn't mean you're better
I've painted for 5 months and i'm better than you who has painted for years
not because i'm really good, i'm average for my time, but because you can't paint above the level of a twelve year old
And I could see it in your face the moment you spotted me then only reason you wanted to see my minis was to tell me "you're pretty good, for a beginner"
fuck off

>>55201687
>>55201738
I respect Cato a little more now.

>>55201789
>remake classic artwork
>muzzle flares aren't crescent moons with yellow shoop da whoop flame lasers
WHY

>>55201798
Mount Stupid, basically. It's whi /WIPg/ is a place of shit painters posting their shit models, giving shit advice to other shit painters who posted their shit models to seek advice from shit painters. All the while they ignore actual good painters because "good painters don;t need advice so why would we talk to them lol"

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>>55201753
>do you think cawl fixed their beltchers gland?
>why are they taller anyway?
>these guys are so big, i can't get a shot from the back
>my feet hurt because these oafs can't fit into a rhino
>I'm older than all these guys combined
>these guys probably spoke to Pedro before me
>i wish i was at home, building my own disintegrator

>>55201806
Because they're outdated and look like shit
Exactly like marinelets

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>night lords trait gives you 1 reroll per battle round
>generic trait allows you to force opponents to take LD tests on 2 dice, discarding lowest.

Why would you ever take the NL trait?

>>55201753
>>55201789

I'm more interested in how they managed to make the piece look less impressive than the original, 30 years and many million pounds of profit later.

>Magnus with Prescience, Diabolic Strength and +1A Warlord Trait vs Space Marine Fellblade(T9 2+ 29W)
>9 attacks, 11.6 hit, 9.6 wound, 8 unsaved for 24 damage taken, leaving Fellblade on 2 wounds and degrading it from BS3+ to BS5+. Same applies to Falchion while Mastadon would be left on 6 wounds.

Also, Magnus player can use CP reroll on one wound roll, giving him 84% chance to convert it to another wound. That, combined with Smite, will kill the Fellblade. People like to talk about how good Weaver of Fates and Death Hex were when they came out, but Diabolic Strenght really lets Mags chew his way through T9 superheavies.

Powers become an issue though, as you usually want to use both Warptime and Weaver of Fates, meaning that you are forced to choose between DS, Prescience and Smite. You could have jetpack sorc help you with that, but he is not as reliable as Magnus is.

>>55201829
>Older than all these guys combined
>Primaris are largely from the Heresy era

>>55201837
That's just the response I was hoping for. kek

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Finished my Primaris today (well, still got to do the bases, but that'll be tomorrows job). Just making up a small OC Chapter to run when I want a break from my Dark Eldar. Still kicking around names, taking suggestions, and especially suggestions for what would be a good Chapter insignia thats either easy to paint (I am not very good) or on an easy enough to get transfer sheet.

>>55201839
Rerolling charges and Invul saves mostly.

But yeah, it is still pretty shit in comparison.

>>55201839
Assuming you didn't take the relic claws, to pretend he has Curze's Curse.

>>55201841
>Prescience
Fucking why?

Is there currently any way to do Dark Mechanicus?

How would DM worship Chaos on an aesthetic level? Are you likely to see Plague Skitarii or a Magos dedicated to Khorne?

>>55201882
Magnus has "Death to the False Emperor" special rule, which gives him an additional attack on a hit roll of a six. With Prescience, DttFE will proc on fives as well, which with 9 attacks means additional 1.5 attack on average.

>>55201893
>How would DM worship Chaos on an aesthetic level
Spikes, brass trim, and more skulls